Horrors of nuclear winter explained | Max Tegmark and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Max Tegmark is a physicist and AI researcher at MIT, co-founder of the Future of Life Institute, and author of Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence.
Wokeness is CULTURAL GENOCIDE. Call it what it is and treat it accordingly
We'd like to thank our sponsor Moloch for supporting this episode
I have never heard the word moloch dropped so frequently as did in this podcast
Guess it's the way he characterises all this conflict...
I don’t think he believes in the biblical context of the Devil but more of deity that’s been around longer and Moloch is definitely one of them
Then you will understand why for short five minutes while you hug and children and wait for the flash.
Moloch is stronger in the shadows. It needs to be brought out into the light.
Dude every single one of his ideas, the punchline was Moloch
"We have to drive Russia out of Ukraine, it's a matter of pride." that's an extreme simplification wtf
Also misses the rule of international law part, which I consider much more relevant as "pride".
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@@Charles_Bro-son but those rules also play into part of this Moloch game. The rules may contrive some leaders into descalating things, from both sides.
Moloch is currently rampant in Ukraine and Europe.
Notice how after the war in Ukraine happened, North Korean threats of invading South Korea went up as well as Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Dictators around the world are waiting and watching to see what happens in Ukraine.
@@Charles_Bro-son If "international law" brings you into a nuclear war, of what use is it?
Paraphrasing Anton Chigurh.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter...
Came here to use this exact quote 😂
Until the deathclaws pull up 😳
Gotta love that NTC. Allons!
Deathclaw valley is no joke.
"A full belly is prerequisite to all manner of a good. Without that, no man knows what hunger will make him do." - Alexander Pearce
Jan Brady: "Moloch Moloch Moloch!"
I really like the idea of pinning our iniquities on this Moloch guy. A common enemy is just about the only thing that really motivates humanity these days, and he truly is a common enemy.
Moloch is just a reflection or a term to describe "human evil"
Moloch is an ancient demon. Which is very eye opening that a scientist is referring to an ancient demon as the cause for the antagonistic effect between different groups of humans.
I asked gpt4 to rank existential disasters, and it rated poorly aligned superintelligence as a greater risk than nuclear war or a comet impact.
Just taking my lunch break at work to question the fragility of life itself with the threat of global nuclear destruction 🙃
Life seems fragile until it outlasts us. If anything, it's valuable and we need to realize that.
Moloch is sometimes used to indicate something that demands immense sacrifice and subservience.
Karl Marx referred to money as a Moloch
The religion of Moloch - as such creeds may be generically called - is in essence the cringing submission of the slave, who dare not, even in his heart, allow the thought that his master deserves no adulation. Since the independence of ideals is not yet acknowledged, Power may be freely worshipped, and receive an unlimited respect, despite its wanton infliction of pain.
Sounds all familiar today especially during covid19
Thank you. Throughout this clip all I keep thinking is, "What the hell is Moloch and how am I going to google it if I don't know how to spell it?"
Also even before googling Moloch, your sentence made a lot of sense. But it's simplicity is even better after I googled it.
Little did he know Moloch would actually be his baby.
@@amante2443 I HAD 2 GOOGLE MOLOCH AS WELL💯APPARENTLY MOLOCH WAS A DEMON ENTITY PPL USE 2 WORSHIP LONG AGO💯MOLOCH WAS 1 OF SATANS MOST POWERFUL DEMONS😮💨THE DEMON OF POWER & SACRIFICE‼️THE GREATER THE POWER...THE GREATER THE SACRIFICE‼️IT IS SAID THAT PPL WOULD SACRIFICE THEIR OWN CHILD 2 A STATUE OF MOLOCH😮💨&& IT IS ALSO SAID DURING THE SACRIFICE....THE CHILD WOULD BURN ALIVE IN THE STATUES HANDS WHILE THE PRIEST WOULD BEAT A DRUM VERY LOUD💯"SO LEST HIS FATHER HEARS THE CRIES OF HIS SON....& HAS A CHANGE OF HEART"💯😮💨
@@amante2443 Look at my explanation in a reply above to see what he specifically meant by it.
“The cringing submission of the slave” God that’s powerful
MaxTegmark is amazing. I have watched most of stuff of RUclips more the once
Моя бабушка,по отцовской линии,пережила молодой девушкой Блокаду Ленинграда, во время Второй Мировой.Её истории о голоде и смерти ....Самое страшное было то,как она буднично их рассказывала.Было понятно,что это была её реальность....Спасибо Вам.
They would do the same to your people if they could. Just letting you know. Americans i mean
I am russian, half african my great grandma was in this siege too. incredible stories
@@jackdaniels6536 as an American, I don't wish any harm or suffering to any Russian, or any other country for that matter.
@@torch2005 maybe you dont on a personal level but your goverment certainly does
@@jackdaniels6536 I hope on a personal level it’s the same for you. As citizens it’s our job to try and course leadership to do what’s right for us; strive for peace and growth rather than hate and destruction.
How many warheads / what cumulative yield were used in those projections? 20-40 degrees celsius seems like the largest drop in temperature I’ve ever heard from such a prediction, and that includes predictions made from when there were likely over 10x the number warheads deployed currently.
My thoughts exactly. That is highly alarmistic estimate.
I imagine there's an exponential curve in the required yield for debris. That said, imagine how important the short term impact is. Nuclear winter doesn't need to "black out the sun" for 10 years. Destroying most major crop yields for a year could starve hundreds of millions, let alone ten years and who knows at that point.
I’m more curious what the models would show for a limited nuclear exchange (which is actually the far more likely scenario). Say just a few dozen warheads and nothing more than 1 megaton in yield. All-out nuclear war is extremely unlikely over Ukraine, but a scenario where Russia and the US/Britain launch something like “counterforce strike” on each other is very plausible. Only a few dozen major nuclear detonations and maybe a hundred tactical nukes all told, with a few million dead on both sides. All major population centers spared.
What scares me is I suspect the models would show little impact on the climate, and our leadership know this, and thus, they are perfectly willing to push for all-out victory over Russia, even if that means great danger. After all, in such a scenario it’s we citizens who pay the price, not our leaders.
But those were done in the 70's and now, don't forget you have about 12 more nations , like China, in the mix and they have at least 3500 warheads alone, varying from 100KT to 1MT.
@@mbaxter22 all-out victory over Russia is actually the safest scenario. With any partial victory we throw Putin's regime a lifeline, encourage it for for more wars and thus greatly accumulate nuclear war risks.
Threads is still my favorite feel good movie
Its the most depressing thing I've ever seen
Shit still haunts me
Love Max’s final comment in this clip
Yeah, love is the answer, until your city is turned to ashes, your family raped and shot, your nation driven to exile. Then love starts to look like much less of an answer.
@@dmytrolysak1366 There is a time to fight, and at some point a time to lay down arms, and eventually a time to grieve. God bless your journey.
@@doodle6004 And then there is this time when you hold your molotov and listen for tanks, and then you realize that all this crap about "love", "peace", "forgiveness", "international laws" and other empty pompous wordsalad was either crafted or promoted by people with huge guns who just want less resistance when their guns roll in on you.
Love is good. I choose to be good. I'll die happily with this
Maybe finally, we understand how interconnected we are and transform this civilisation of selfishness, loneliness, and depravity we build and grow apart from each other. Maybe there is a chance to rebuild it, facing an existential threat.
Fritz Lang already made the movie about moloch, its called metropolis.
You cant blame everything on "Moloch" without even explaining what you mean by Moloch.
He explains Moloch in detail just before this conversation clip. Watch the full podcast!
I HAD 2 GOOGLE MOLOCH AS WELL💯APPARENTLY MOLOCH WAS A DEMON ENTITY PPL USE 2 WORSHIP LONG AGO💯MOLOCH WAS 1 OF SATANS MOST POWERFUL DEMONS😮💨THE DEMON OF POWER & SACRIFICE‼️THE GREATER THE POWER...THE GREATER THE SACRIFICE‼️IT IS SAID THAT PPL WOULD SACRIFICE THEIR OWN CHILD 2 A STATUE OF MOLOCH😮💨&& IT IS ALSO SAID DURING THE SACRIFICE....THE CHILD WOULD BURN ALIVE IN THE STATUES HANDS WHILE THE PRIEST WOULD BEAT A DRUM VERY LOUD💯"SO LEST HIS FATHER HEARS THE CRIES OF HIS SON....& HAS A CHANGE OF HEART"💯
You can. And 90% of people will get it.
@@michaelnurse9089 I got the just of it, he's supposed to be the devil or something similar but i expected a more detailed explanation, i guess i need to watch the full podcast.
What is moloch
Moloch makes everyone want to fight each other any hate each other?
Sounds like Nick Diaz’ description of Ariel Helwani 👀
I would have to say, self-awareness is the answer. We won't find the real enemy out there. It comes from our own unexamined thoughts, feelings and behaviors.
Any kind of awareness, internal or external, cultivates behavior in people the endgame of which is love. It must be based on reality though, wishful thinking leads 'Moloch'.
The enemy has always been humanity, we are all dogshit.
I agree but I think that would be too painful for some, probably those who seek high power
@@simplylethul people keep saying "humanity" like its something noble while all we did on this planet is killing and destroying
@@kittensilvister there are people who are trying to stop that kind of behavior, but, the majority doesn't does not give a shit.
Can anyone explain to me who is moloch?
Google it. Its used here to portray the idea that My truth is the real truth and that the other person is wrong. Thus the never ending fighting.
The problem is that these weapons exist. Sooner or later they will be used. In all likelihood, any future nuclear war will be a product of a combination of miscommunication and miscalculation.
Mammon comes first and Moloch follows... If mankind is not able to turn the tables around asap than what might and probably will happen is sad but true
I can assure you with utmost confidence that mankind cannot, and will not "turn the "... because of sin...
Strange he hasn’t noticed that Moloch (the movie) came out last year.
Since the first Nuclear test explosion on July 16,1945,at least eight nations have detonated 2,056 nuclear test explosions at dozens of test sites,including Lop Nor in China,the atolls of the Pacific,Nevada,Algeria where France conducted its first Nuclear device,Western Australia where the UK exploded nuclear weapons,the South Atlantic,Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan,across Russia,and elsewhere
The use of these weapons are planned, unplanned multiple strikes within a smaller time frame upon cities are much more devastating
Love is the Answer!
I feel so much in tune with what Max says here. I think he's saying something that in it's basis is the core problem of humanity; the seed of all our misfortunes. It's fascinating because again, like Newton's 3rd law of motion, every action always produces an equal and opposite reaction in the opposite direction and orientation. The same happens in human psychology. When there is Truth automatically there has to be a mistruth and we live in the equilibrium of these two. Maintaining the balance is crucial because both are necessary for the fabric of society as social beings but I feel "Moloch" like to tip the weights over to the mistruths.
What does he keep saying, Moloch?
Who or what is Moloch?
I for one would welcome the change.
Everyone needs to see this.
Still sounds better than patrolling the Mojave
Patroling the Mojave makes you wish for a Necular Winter.
Max sounds like he's motivated drunk n Alex like a sleepy drunk
😂 Right
Looks like we'll have to trade in our snow shovels for Geiger counters during this nuclear winter! 😂 On the bright side, we'll finally have an excuse for not leaving the house. #maxtegmark #lexfridman
The idea that nuclear winter would be so devastating and last so long is starting to be criticized by many experts. The models of the 1970’s and 80’s are outdated, which are the ones he is stating.
Since we have witnessed vast swaths of the earths forests sadly burn (from Brazil, California to Australia) we have learned a lot about how vast fires effect the climate. In turn previous assumptions about how burning cities would cause a nuclear winter are no longer seen as credible.
What’s more is that the total amount of nuclear weapons in the world today is a fraction of the total from just decades ago.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t be terrified, but ideas of a long encompassing nuclear winter is simply wrong.
I'm sure your views will give you a lot of comfort when you see a missile streaking across the sky.
Great. Lets first strike Russia and China then. Catch them with their pants down.
@@apusapus71 I never said nuclear war is not a “big deal” or that it doesn’t terrify me. I think the concept of a apocalyptic globe encompassing nuclear winter is outdated, which climate scientists have begun to disprove as we have better data on forest fire dissipation and much better climate models.
Being in a large metro area, I will most definitely perish in any potential nuclear war. What brings me peace is knowing human civilization will emerge after such a travesty. I’m sorry you don’t find relief in knowing that, but I do.
@@apusapus71 actually, yes, it does.
Thank you. It will a great comfort to me when I see a missile streaking through the sky.
Dude must've said moloch 100 times in this podcast hahahhah
These guys are all overrated
It's funny how similar Moloch and Morlock are, in the the word but also in the conception. Underground Aryan race, bigfoot creatures, Canaanites, demons, aliens, technology, civilization, shadow gov, etc etc etc.. It all fits.
I now appreciate my cake and coffee much more. I'm going to savor life much more now that I know that, soon, I may be savoring earthworms.
Max talking Molock more than Alex jones
That you watched Alex Jones should also be put under the spotlight.
@@michaelnurse9089 the frogs are turnin gay! Lol. Watched? How arrogant AND ignorant of you too comment that. I STILL tune into that champ, he's fkin awesome. He exposed sooooo much and you.....well what have you done too expose corrupted fukwits?
In the age of political division and strife, all we need is a Moloch that will make us fight, not against a common evil, but against each other. Is that us?
We are the evil my friend
Isn't molach some evil God from babylon?
Yup. And where is Babylon today?
Not as long as there are people to eat
6:21 - radiation poisoning would be the worst way to die, actually. I would take starving to death over my skin rotting off and my organs disintegrating.
I don't think it's just starving to death, it's what people do when they are starving to death, i.e. cannibalism. But yeah, I don't think I'd like radiation poisoning given the way you describe it, I mean, I like having my hair. ; )
Its crazy that you'll stay there until you're literally starved enough to die instead of finishing yourself. Survival instincts...
As apposed to what? A sharpened stick up the rectum?
Nah I would rather have radiation poisoning. I have heard that starving to death is insanely painful and slow. Your body literally eats itself. Sounds about the same as your organs disintegrating lol
Molach sounds like the Shadow of humanity. The only way to fight the shadow is compassion. In this world, we are all attached. Tell Someone that breaking their focus on a 15 minute video to check social media 3 times is problematic and they will become quite defensive. This is the shadow of that individual working in real physical time. Rather than look to see how detrimental this can be, they tell you to get lost, that they will do what they want. They push the notion of it being a problem to the back of their mind. The shadow inside oneself does this also. A problem is seen and quickly pushed into the darkness of their mind and forgotten about, so that they can remain in their ecobubble of feelings that they have been nurturing. This is really troublesome on the global scale as we try hide things from the rest of us that the majority genuinely wouldn't accept so that we can go and play out these as if a rollercoaster on a track. Only this pisses the majority of people off and that can cause great destability especially when trying to wrangle such an illusive energy. And because the Molach is like the Egregore of all of humanities shadow, it looks to seep into our reality in sneaky disruptive ways. We as humans really need to identify when this beast has control and treat it as a dog we take into care that was neglected for a lot of its life. It may bite you, and growl. But you have to treat it a certain way, or else you're just cultivating the hate. Its bigger than one persons emotional intelligence. It is like math in the sense that it has to be done in a way that gets the answer, not in a way that you want.
You don't fight your shadow. You compromise with it. It's not something that can be defeated. Finding balance with one's shadow is what sages of old dedicated their entire lives to accomplish.
Compassion is a fool's tool to put on the make up of virtue. An emotion that should be reserved for one's younglings must not be given so freely as we only have a limited amount to give. Running out if before you reserve some for yourself by giving it to strangers will make one resent and hate himself as this would imply they themselves, by extension their kin, weren't worthy of it.
@@kingofmaiars there is no fighting. A person resisting is a person resisting. It feels uncomfortable to sit as your negative feedback loops slowly expire.
Most people wish to but experience this unrest and stop. Compassion is a resistance reduced way to escape from the "shadow" .
Of course this compassion is only a word, but if you look behind the energy of compassion, it is healing, forgiving growth. Its support. Its what people need to help guide them.
People dont want to change. The ones on the fringes of society get ridiculed yet end play a huge role in guiding society. Imagine if their was compassion for this. How many more people would be doing wonderful things.
To believe this is an emotion for youngsters is of great disservice. Virtue isnt easy. It is a fully invested way of living. Not everyone wants to be devote like a monk and accomplish this way of living and this is one reason why, we must use compassion as a tool even when we dont want too. That too is how you build a virtuous man.
Compassion is not something you can run out of, you can only run out of energy yourself. That is something the person would need to work on
Do you want to know the worst of being hungry for months and not being able to do anything? that many times, as in our case, the intellectual authors of the famine are still in power after years, and are praised internationally.
For example, the Venezuelan butcher murderer Nicolas Maduro who even had a slogan when people were starving, I quote: "Maduro's diet makes you hard" or spanish "La dieta de Maduro te pone duro" .
He is still here.
Kinda like Fauci. No exactly like Fauci.
Climate models have a tendancy to be wrong. The planet has had some very large disasters that have not caused that kind of temperature drop.
So we might all die because of egos ?
These two both loom like its the morning after an i tense mushroom trip and theyre just still up talking until they can fi ally sleep lol
Here's how to solve the long term existential threat of nuclear armageddon once and for all! (5 step algorithm)...
1) All nuclear powers sign a treaty that agrees to half their nuclear arsenals every Y years (eg I'd recommend Y
Good ideas, genuinely, but I do not see it happening anytime soon.
Humans are too stupid and power bent. One solution is for USA to not Nuke back if Russia bombs them. Which I think is what the plan is. Someone needs to be the bigger person regardless of if nuked.
Lex, always saying Love is the answer is what got John Lennon in trouble with the gov't!! While Love is the answer empirically, what we need is a SOLUTION. And that comes from rational diplomacy and courageous leadership.
John Lennon speaking on love is like Bill Cosby speaking about women's rights. John Lennon was a compete asshole who berated people and, more importantly, Lennon beat all the women in his life! Terrible example.
Well this is very true , even though I still agree with Lex and perhaps you agree as well (?) , we have aloot of work to do , be more objetive with things in general , and perhaps also work on things that allow everyone to work/develop/discover peace withing themselfes.
I say this because, when you are actually there , wherever u are , your perspective on life as a hole shifts , not just that but you also realize other angles you didn´t see before that might be crucial when considering this situation !!
In theory, rational diplomacy and courageous leadership sounds great. But we're past that because the trust of diplomats and ambassadors is dead. I don't know about y'all, but my lifetime has taught me that nobody is gonna give a shit about you, quite like you. We need mass arrests of the global and banking elite
I respect Mr. Tegmark greatly. The overuse of Moloch is...umm... I don't know, but it's sumthin
Fear is the veil that needs to be lifted
Fear is preventing a first strike by America or Russia - so no.
Won't matter much. This conspiracy of events will take you whether you have fear or not. And there will still be fear, if not for a fleeting second.
@@ChatGPT1111 do you know what divine intervention is ?
@@Effecenity6942 yep, and I know he ain't savin' either the immodest or the overconfident.
@@ChatGPT1111 the only way to stay in the middle is to contradict everything . Then you will have a discerning outlook
I’ll be back when I figure out who or what moloch is . Sounds like a supervillain to me
The devil of the historical Caananites.
“Moloch” is used as a term for game theory and emergent Lose, Lose outcomes. Don’t drown your brain in woo
Take a shot every time you hear the word moloch
In the wake of disasters, people from other areas come in and provide assistance. There won't be any outside unaffected areas in a global disaster. With no sense of how to return to normal, vestigial baser instincts (Moloch) will arise. Luckily part of those instincts will be value of community.
Carl Sagan's nuclear winter hypothesis was disproven years ago.
I wish we could normalize making comments like this while being backed up by actual data
I wish we could normalize the use of google instead of expecting strangers on the internet to spoonfeed you information. Go and read the papers yourself you halfwit and stop making pseudointellectual statements about "DaTa"
If you had the slightest clue what you were talking about you'd know that Carl Sagan's data was flimsy and made a number of incorrect assumptions about mushroom cloud dust and how long irradiated particles are suspended in the atmosphere.
The publication tegmark refers to was from 2020 I believe. It has nothing to do with Sagan and uses current climate models and data.
And we have gotten much better at those since Sagan's time.
@@doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097 Nope...not true. He is repeating the same Sagan bullshit.
Its been said , the living would envy the dead ... I hope to be gone by then.
Rock-a-doo cartoon from 80s rewatch.
so weird, we didn’t get into any wars from 2016-2020…..so weird…
Not weird we just had TRUMP!
We were fighting a war in Syria
The US bombed Syria. That counts.
@@franksilva4175 that war started in 2014, you intellectually dishonest SOB. Frank, read carefully YOU’RE THE PROBLEM. People who think like you ARE the problem.
That volcanic eruption in russia other day isnt gonna help matters either
Very interesting to compare AI to essentially a demon lol. Its actually quite scary
Moloch isn't AI. It's the fact that everyone feels the need to develop it (quickly or incautiously) because otherwise other people will. If we don't do it, the Chinese will and then they'll control the world, and the Chinese think the same thing. Or his example was I have to use an instagram filter to keep my market share because everyone else is doing it and I'll fall behind if I don't...and everyone else thinks that way so is forced into doing it. Yet since everyone does it, no one benefits. It's that kind of dynamic where everyone collectively is forced into doing things that hurts us all. He's making it into a being, a monster, it so we have a more concrete sense of the enemy/problem.
Personification makes it hit home. If you rephrase it as abstract everybody shrugs.
@@steviemac2681 core problem of that is the competitiveness of capitalism
@@dazmoo_its just unhealthy competitiveness in general
@@ioverslept. which is by definition one of the pillars of capitalism. people HAVE to compete all the time, because of monetary and societal pressure, even if the "Moloch" of a superhuman AI that may kill us is very likely and visible for everyone. best would be if we had another system, one without such pressure, but still liberal somehow.
I do not see love compassion or understanding when I look at our world leaders
@7:52 - 8:22 xenoblade chronicles 3 + xenogears right here❤️😭 if you know you know ❤️
Moloch? Huh. "Devils and gods, now that's an idea.
But if we believe that it's they who decide
That's the ultimate detractor of crimes
'Cause devils and gods
They are you and I
Devils and gods
They are you and I
Devils and gods
Safe and Inside." - "Devils And Gods" - Tori Amos
We're all gunna die in agony but at least we don't have mean Tweets
Wtf is moloch???
Well, just read Lost In The Andes. Starvation, throughout history, equals cannibalism.
Somewhere in alternative universe, the religion worshipping Moloch is dominant, and in their videos they talk how they the insidious and evil metaphysical Christ is the only entity that really stands on their way to the happy ever-after
The cause is the bris practitioners.
Moloch is very real. As an Idea and as an actual entity because we made it. We actually created moloch and now it controls us. Peoe worship both the idea and the entity.
It’s about saving democracy, boys! Not pride. People who live in USA don’t realize this
Yeah, we've seen how well that goes in the twilight hours after the poll workers have turned off the lights. 😂
Why dont you discuss NATO having a straight road to Moscow if Russia looses. This is the greatest Nuclear treat.
I don't know whom is Tegmark referring to as the West feeling too proud to let Ukraine go, maybe he is meaning the US? Certainly, he never fully analysed the middle-European thinking on this.
"Moloch, the insatiable god,
Demands the sacrifice of blood.
He calls to his children,
And they come to him, unbidden.
He takes their young lives,
And he feeds on their flesh.
He grows stronger with each offering,
And his hunger knows no bounds.
But Moloch is a god of war,
And he will not be appeased.
He will continue to demand sacrifices,
Until the city is empty.
Moloch is a god of death,
And he will have his way."
Moloch is in Ukraine at this time in our History.
He was there during WW1 and WW2...
It is time to expel him forever....
This guy’s fav word is Moloch.
When ever humans become tree huggers and sang combaya, that is when humanity made its greatest leaps into the future, when we we were cave men we fought each other then we decided to live in peace and join forces between. Several clans or families, we became tribes and villages. Then decided to restore peace and live togather in cities that ultimately fought each other . Then countries then empires . Then in WWll we decided its stupid for empires to fight each other . The next logical thing to do , is to go back and revive all the international laws and treaties that kept the peace for the last 70 or more years , then go ahead and finish all the treaties that were scheduled for negotiations. And just keep going until we have one united planet that is focused on the future and space discovery . Its doable. But capitalism is in the way . If we dont ditch it right now we are screwed. Capitalism is moloch not power . We have a cure for power called democracy . But there is no cure for capitalism .
Don't worry Earthling. All will pass.
Don't think it's fair to say Sweden "had nothing to do with it." Sweden, like everyone who is thriving under the current system, is just as culpable as anyone even if they didn't build the silos.
Moloch (disambiguation) & is a name or a term which appears in the Hebrew Bible several times, primarily in the book of Leviticus. The Bible strongly condemns practices which are associated with Moloch, practices which appear to have included child sacrifice.[1]
Has Max ever been called to account for literally not knowing the basics of deterrence such that he makes absurd proposals in front of everybody?
Elaborate?
Nuclear winter? Haven't you been listening? It's nuclear warming that we need to be concerned about... or so says that stable genius guy...
Nukes do not exist, never have!
And Nagasaki and Hiroshima were what, movie stages? I’m guessing they were located next to the Moon set as well?
@@Paine137 you don’t find it the least bit ironic. That the only country to use a Nuke on an enemy is the US. And our reason for not using it again is some humanitarian shit?! Cmon son?! You can’t be that stupid!
Guess guy hasn't heard of EMP strikes disabling our strike compasities
This nuclear winter stuff developed by Carl Sagen in the 80s was totally debunked in the late 80s. Not accurate at all.
This hypothetical doesn't exist currently when you put both sides of the conflict between NATO proxy-Ukraine & Russia, in their proper context.
I know he blames Moloch, but it should be noted that many scientists are currently more concerned about Baphomet.
Where do you get that from
A drop of 20° Celcius in Ukrain means the temperature still stays at +10 or +5 above zero, so there is still some hope for farming, but a 30°C drop there is no hope
he's pulling these numbers out of his butt. We have no reliable way to tell how bad it can be, but very likely - not that bad.
We had Krakatoa eruption with tnt equivalent of 200 mt., and it caused drop of several degrees, i.e. cold summers, all around the globe. However, modern nukes are nowhere near as powerful and supposedly not nearly as impactful nuclear winter-wise ton by ton as volcano erupts up, but nukes are normally detonated above the ground.
This war mindset has been around since religion was multiplied. At its simplest form, war is part of difference. One god and 1 religion will solve these differences, all humans being fully enlightened and entwined. That god is Aten, the precipice of all religions. Simple is always the answer.
Who tf is muloch
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Max: you remember the Falkland islands war?
Lex: *nods*
Lol, Lex is born in 1983. That war happened in 1982.
Not being around for it in person doesn't mean you aren't aware of it,
@@xfom4008 but u can’t remember it
If he smokes he could actually be an older age - making him effectively born in '79.
Lex is looking Deshoveled! Stay thirsty friend lol😅
Wtf is Muloch?
An invisible force guiding us to conflict,
Whatever we do , no matter how smart or "evolved" we are, , war keeps comming back like a curse on humanity
At this point I accept the idea that something like muloch truly exist.
But even if an entity like Muloch doesnt exist, the idea of a "curse" is still valid , and if we want to end war we should look for a deeper cause than just the obvious ones
Moloch is the personification of the forces that coerce competing individuals to take actions which, although locally optimal, ultimately lead to situations where everyone is worse off. Moreover, no individual is able to unilaterally break out of the dynamic. The situation is a bad Nash equilibrium. A trap.
One example of a Molochian dynamic is a Red Queen race between scientists who must continually spend more time writing grant applications just to keep up with their peers doing the same. Through unavoidable competition, they have all lost time while not ending up with any more grant money. And any scientist who unilaterally tried to not engage in the competition would soon be replaced by one who still does. If they all promised to cap their grant writing time, everyone would face an incentive to defect.
@@killjoymcnugget7877 Very well explained, thank you.
@@mydogskips2 spenkengruber
who molock
Everyone is dead on sight when this happens. Straight suicide.
Tell me about it. I am 63 and vividly remember the duck and cover school exercises and the decades of not needing to do that afterward. Today's cavalcade of possibilities make that earlier experience akin to comparing Ebola with a tickle cough.
The Christian understanding of Moloch is essentially a chief demon of Satan’s who brings forth sacrifice and destruction through humanity
Ooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh boy, wait til an argentinian listens to "invaded the falklands" 😂
Yeah i got kinda triggered tbh