Is The Pre-trib Rapture and The Second Coming of Jesus The Same Event? (Season 1 Episode 4)
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- Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024
- Why is the doctrine of the return of Christ such a highly debated topic amongst Christians and scholars all over the world? Does the Bible not clearly teach on this? Did Jesus have anything to say about it? Is there rapture of the church and the return of Christ, or the second coming of Christ, the same event or two different events? Did Paul get a revelation that even Jesus didn’t have? I Wanna Know! #bible #biblestudy #bibleverse #bibleverses #jesus #jesuschrist #rapture
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Amen, I used to hold to pre-trib rapture, but always questioned it because I knew the Bible refuted it, but yet I still chose to believe in pre-trib because everyone else around me believed it. Anyways, long story short, the Holy Spirit made it really clear to me when I began to study the Bible without the lense of the pre-trib rapture. Many are deceived by pre-trib and Jesus warned us right away, to not be deceived, Matthew 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
I was never taught or believed the pre-trib rapture but this is a very clear and precise teaching,thanks so much. 🙏Shared
Thank you guys
Bless you all
I think people are spoiled and entitled to believe that we won’t have to suffer and possibly die for our faith in our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST! I know most people who believe in the rapture are decieved, but i think also that many people refuse to accept the truth from fear of knowing that they are cowards. People have to start reading the Bible for themselves, and take responsibility for their own salvation. I think almost everyone has been decieved by something or someone at some point in our lifes, and that is ok. But it is not ok to stay decieved and then blame everyone else for it. On Judgement Day everyone will have to answer for themselves, and you will not be able to blame someone else for your bad choises.
Thank you for all the awesome teachings! I love you guys! Praise the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and may GOD bless you!
Never knew about a Pretrib Rapture until 2016 after Chosen and someone gave me a book to read called Revelation Unwrapped. All I knew was I would have to die here in hopes of going to Heaven. Glad to know Jesus accepted me into His Life and Kingdom. He sealed the deal and I'm forever grateful 🙏
Jesus said he is the SON of GOD he never said he was GOD .And he Jesus said the Father is greater then he is they are NOT one and the same But all power has been given to him Jesus by GOD
Sadly, so many Christians believe in this doctrine of man, in a doctrine that was never taught by the prophets, the Apostles, the early church fathers, nor by Christ Himself. Many believe this lie, this deception, is not a question of salvation. According to scripture it is! The commandment not to add or subtract from the word of God found in Deut 4 and Revelation 22:18-19, especially Revelation clearly puts this false doctrine under the condemnation of the Lord and also clearly finds this doctrine comes under the condemnation of the Apostle Paul in Galatian 1:8-9. If one believes they have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit then know that you are being lead into all truth and that you are being sanctified by the truth. Christ warned a number of times not to be deceived but yet the pre trib rapture is clearly a deception designed and meant to draw one away from the truth and from Christ into disobedience because you no longer obey the Gospel and according to 2 Thess 1:8-9 the wrath of God does indeed apply to you. The whole purpose of a deception is to get one to believe in something that is not true and once one believes a lie, that lie does not stand alone but will require one to believe and even make up a number of lies to falsely support the initial lie. Further condemnation comes in 2 Thess 2:10-12 and Revelation 22:15. I judge no man but the words of the Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ certainly do with the Holy Spirit bearing witness. The pre tribulational rapture can easily be proven to be a lie and yet hundreds of millions of Christians have been deceived into believing it today, how then will any of them endure to the end in spirit and truth when our great God Himself will send a strong delusion because the church loved the lie more than the truth?
That started pre trib. Edward irving
Why is ‘in the cloud’ a different interpretation in ascension and in revelations. Both are ‘in spirit’.
Jesus ascended in a cloud (spirit) and he will return the way he ascended (spirit).
I have never believed in this. It is not a salvation doctrine and much ado about nothing, just keeps your mind off the true salvation in Jesus.
No scripture show Jesus coming in the Clouds at Pre-Tribulation
Please David, I hope to point out that it's Edward Irving, not Cliffard Irving that was one of the forerunners of the fake pretrib rapture
It doesn’t say Jesus is returning as a man. The air, the clouds… they refer to spirit…
We know that the "rapture" takes place at the resurrection of the dead. According to Revelation, there are only 2 resurrections that take place, one at His coming and the second is at the completion of His 1000 year reign on earth. We know that we who are alive cannot be caught up until the dead are raised first. We also know that the dead can't be raised until the Lord descends from Heaven in a cloud. Paul said that upon the Lord's return, He is to destroy the antichrist with the breath of His mouth and the brightness of His coming. If Jesus came before the antichrist, who will He destroy? that would make 2 second comings. And, if the rapture took place before the antichrist's appearance, that would mean 3 resurrections and 2 second comings which goes against Hebrews 9:28 and all of Paul's teachings.
So the question is, where in Revelation does it say the dead are raised? Chapter 11 when the two witnesses are raised when they hear "come up hither" and this just so happens be at the 7th trumpet. This is in line with what paul said to the Corinthians "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet, the dead will be raised". He said the same thing to the Thessalonians "The Lord Himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of and archangel and with the TRUMPET call of God, the DEAD in Christ will rise first".
God's message to those in the faith, test yourselves to see if you're in the faith. When trials, tribulations and persecution comes, will you be faithful as Job and Daniel? For it is written "Daniel was protected because he trusted God". The story of Peter walking on water towards Jesus was written for us as an example of what not to do when your life is in a major storm, keep in the faith by fixing your eyes on Jesus or you will sink. For it is written "The devil will put some of you in prison to test you and you will suffer persecution for 10 days, be faithful, even to the point of death". This passage is clear that we will meet the antichrist.
As both Jesus and paul warned us, there will be an apostasy that preceeds the Lord's return. But why? because many are too focused on a secret escape rather than His coming, without His coming there is no escape. When trials, tribulations and the testing of your faith comes, will you be that one that says "where is this coming He promised?". My brothers and sisters, please meditate on James chapter 1 and 1 Peter 4:12-13.
Cant talk On the live chat. Have I been banned? Or is it something RUclips related?
This is an old rerun from a few years ago.
The Jew's go thur the tribulation and the church is caught away!
I feel like he's reading a script.
I love David's teachings.
Im referring to Jimmy. Isn't that his name?
I'm not trying to be ugly.
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They are not the same event. 2Thessalonians 2 shows us the sequence.
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Why does he wear earrings..hoops? Weird.
That's too freaking. What does the Bible say about men acting like women ? Has he changed ?
Luke 6:42 GNV
[42] Either howe canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou seest not the beame that is in thine owne eye? Hypocrite, cast out the beame out of thine owne eye first, and then shalt thou see, perfectly to pull out the mote that is in thy brothers eye.
- A man with earrings or a man that listens to satans music, whats the difference?
Who cares. ‘Man looks at the outward appearance, God looks at the heart’ ❤️ 1 Samuel 16:7
A guy named Paul was the one who taught pre trib. You are reading and thinking your Jewish that's who Jesus came to they rejected him.
Paul is the most intellectual of all the writers and most misunderstood/misrepresented. Firstly, making your statement regarding being Jewish is not very Christian. Secondly, anyone who rejects their heritage in the land of Israel and their Messiah being from the land of Judah, possibly being called a Jew at that time, is rejecting the foundation of their salvation. Do you put your salvation in Paul or Christ? Paul didn't contradict anything in the gospel but expanded into the Gentiles, which wasn't against what Jesus taught or in OT prophesy. He just spent too much time explaining where the 20th & 21st century people weren't going to be able to understand... above their level.