"CAUGHT UP"...... Means ???..... "In The Air" Means ???...... > The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to snatch or take away.
Harpazo is not in the bible harpagesometha is. Harpa gesometha at the time of the sickle to the earth. When does the sickle get put to the earth... Go search
Not so fast, sir. Paul himself said, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together, to meet the LORD in the air, and so shall we ever be with the LORD. Comfort ye one another with these words.
1Th 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
@@laurentroland6847 Yes but with our glorified bodies we'll be caught up in the air and then in heaven to save us from Antichrist's reigm when the Holy Spirit will also be taken from the Earth with us.Then... and all saint's come back with Jesus to destroy Antichrist and to burn the whole earth with fire.Then...holy new Jerusalem comes down from heaven and Jesus reigns in his holy city with all saints and holy angels for 1000 years.
The word Air... in Greek is word number 109 it means Breath of Life or spiritual body which is what we turn into at the 7th Trump Revelation 1911 described in 1 Corinthians 15 verses 51 and 52 God condemns the Rapture theory in Ezekiel 13:18 through 21 I don't know why people would want to be raptured out of here anyway when the whole goal of being a Christian is to stand against the Antichrist described in Mark 13 Matthew 24 and Luke 21. God bless
UNDERSTANDING THE TWO PHASES OF HIS SECOND COMING: 1. Rapture Passages: John 14:1-3 Heb 9:28 Rom 8:19 Jas 5:7-9 1 Cor 1:7-8 1 Pet 1:7, 13 1 Cor15:51-53 1 Pet 5:4 1 Cor 16:22 1 John 2:28-3:2 Phil 3:20-21 Jude 21 Col 3:4 Rev 2:25 1 Thess 1:10 Rev 3:10 1 Thess 2:19 1 Thess 5:23 2 Thess 2:1 1 Tim 6:14 2 Tim 4:1 2 Tim 4:8 Titus 2:13 ============================================ // 2. Second Coming Passages: // Dan 2:44-45 1 Pet 4:12-13 // Dan 7:9-14 2 Pet 3:1-14 // Dan 12:1-3 Jude 14-15 // Zech 12:10 Rev 1:7 // Zech 14:1-15 Rev 19:11-20:6 // Matt 13:41 Rev 22:7,12,20 // Matt 24:15-31 // Matt 26:64 // Mark 13:14-27 // Mark 14:62 // Luke 21:25-28 // Acts 1:9-11 // Acts 3:19-21 // 1 Thess 3:13 // 2 Thess 2:8
@@mrpush2532: "GOD’S WAY HAS BEEN TO RESCUE THE RIGHTEOUS. It is interesting that the Lord uses Noah and Lot in referring to His Return. Matthew 24:37-39 “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.” Luke 17:28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.” The Holy Spirit who is the author of scripture did this intentionally. While these verses describe the conditions at the coming of the Lord, these verses describe two individuals who were rescued from the wrath of God. God warned Noah and he and his family escaped the universal flood in Ark. God sent angels to Sodom and Lot escaped the fire that was rained down from heaven. These scriptures allude to that. It says. Noah entered the ark. It says Lot left Sodom. I can assure that Christ will return for the church and take us out of here just as he promised. We have to understand the coming of the Lord is in two phases. Paul writes to Titus of these to phases in Titus 2:13 “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,” The first phase is the blessed hope. This is the rapture of the church. Jesus will return to the clouds and will snatch away the church. It is a blessed hope because we will escape the wrath to come in the Tribulation. And then, the second phase is His glorious appearing. Jesus will return all the way to earth and will set up a kingdom that will last for 1000 years on this Earth." Reply
"GOD’S WAY HAS BEEN TO RESCUE THE RIGHTEOUS. It is interesting that the Lord uses Noah and Lot in referring to His Return. Matthew 24:37-39 “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.” Luke 17:28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.” The Holy Spirit who is the author of scripture did this intentionally. While these verses describe the conditions at the coming of the Lord, these verses describe two individuals who were rescued from the wrath of God. God warned Noah and he and his family escaped the universal flood in Ark. God sent angels to Sodom and Lot escaped the fire that was rained down from heaven. These scriptures allude to that. It says. Noah entered the ark. It says Lot left Sodom. I can assure that Christ will return for the church and take us out of here just as he promised. We have to understand the coming of the Lord is in two phases. Paul writes to Titus of these to phases in Titus 2:13 “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,” The first phase is the blessed hope. This is the rapture of the church. Jesus will return to the clouds and will snatch away the church. It is a blessed hope because we will escape the wrath to come in the Tribulation. And then, the second phase is His glorious appearing. Jesus will return all the way to earth and will set up a kingdom that will last for 1000 years on this Earth."
Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
but it did not say explicitly that they will be hidden in heaven.. it says that God will keep them from the hour of trial.. there are countless stories in the Bible that during great tribulations that believers were kept by God.. the story of Israel and Egypt, where the Israelites was kept protected in Goshen till the 10 plagues was done. or Elijah the prophet was kept hidden and protected by God during the 3 years drought.
Have you ever considered that the trial that is being referred to here is the trial on the earth dwellers (unbelievers), which is the wrath of God that begins after the 6th seal at the Day of the Lord. I believe the resurrection occurs at the 6th seal when the cosmic signs appear in the heavens at Christ's revelation. This trial that comes on the whole world, are for those that dwell on the earth (the earth dwellers) not on the believing saints. The Bible does say that we are not appointed to God's wrath that is poured out on the earth dwellers. The great tribulation that Jesus speaks about is not God's wrath but is Satan's persecution of the saints (believers and ethnic Israel) through the Beast and the false prophet.
@@katherineconley2089 It says those on earth, everyone, saints, and those that are unbelievers. The movies and books written about this are wrong. If believers are caught up and the unbelievers are left then there will not be anyone to witness to them. There are no verses saying this. Jesus is coming once and all shall see Him. That is what the scriptures say.
@@zionEEEEE944E Really? I notice no scripture you give to support your "theory" and not sound doctrine at that. Isa 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Isa 26:20 ¶ Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. ( The Tribulation ) Isa 26:21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
John 14:3 in Other Translations3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
Right on!!! Keep showing what GODS word Says! You need FAITH to be in this number, not the mockery of demons they always mocked at Gods servants, even mocked at Jesus CONSTANTLY. It's like they have DNA that makes them do this! context The scripture is talking those NOT ASLEEP and are watching. (WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR?, and why are you mocking it!) 1 Thessalonians 4;16 "For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;" 17 "then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Corinthians 15:52 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. John 14:3 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. Revelatioins 3:10-11 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Yes, but the whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"! Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right?
Revelation 3:10 “Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.”
John 14:3 in Other Translations 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
Word ‘Keep’ does not mean rapture or taken away. It is more in dealing with a divine protection or placed in a secured location of covering. It is also in knowing the truth of Elohim. It does not mean ‘raptured, or ‘taken out of the way.’ One of the prophecies that comes to mind and thought in my heart is a location in the wilderness were Elohim feeds and covers His people in protection will every one else goes through trail of judgment. I do not read His people being taken or raptured into Heaven. Elohim has the ability to protect His people from the trails of His judgment where ever they are or will be. He has done so in the biblical past and He will do it according to His Word in the future events according to the Word given.
The blessed hope is not a pre-trib rapture. It is the hope of salvation from the judgment of hell and the godlessness of the world. Read the context of Titus 2
Correct! As long as we believe Jesus is the son and God sent him as a sacrifice for our sins, we can differ on the other stuff. Rapture/no rapture doesn’t decide if I go to heaven.
@@MyTexasLife Well You have that Backwards. The only ones that are Raptured are Saved. They are Written in The Book of Life. No one can come to Christ until They are drawn by The Father in Heaven.
@@bruce8961 I don’t have anything backwards. I agreed with the original poster that believing or not in a rapture taking place doesn’t determine one’s salvation.
My mother often used the phrase, “the honest in heart”, which I understood as a reference to her belief that God wants to save everyone but that he can’t save people who are intellectually dishonest. In that sense, at least, one might say that eschatology isn’t “a salvation issue”. On the other hand, the entire dispensationalist/futurist method of Bible interpretation (which was the basis of the pretribulation rapture doctrine in the nineteenth century) robbed people of several things. 1: People who are taught that the rapture will be followed by a seven-year tribulation are robbed of the evidence that Jesus life and ministry on Earth two thousand years ago fulfilled the seventy weeks prophecy of Daniel 9 - including the seventieth week. 2: It’s true that the catching up mentioned in I Thessalonians 4 could happen anytime but many people are being robbed of the warnings about false messiahs and false prophets because they’re convinced those warnings don’t apply to the time before the catching up. 3: It is true that many people have read books or watched movies about the “rapture” but it has been my experience that people who have done that place more confidence in futurist expositors than in what Jesus said or what Paul wrote on the subject of future events. In the 1970s, for example, my wife and I attended the funeral of a young man who had died as a result of injuries sustained when he fell off a bridge he was helping to repair. The protestant minister knew most of the young man’s family were adherents of the Roman Church so he asked their priest to have some small part in the funeral at a protestant church building and to conduct the graveside service. At the graveside, the priest said he hadn’t known the young man personally but, from what he had been told about him, he expected to meet him in the resurrection. While we were going back to our cars after the graveside service, one of the protestants was overheard saying, “Resurrection?! Resurrection?! What kind of comfort is that - resurrection?!” Think about it. If the purpose of the “rapture” is to take living believers to heaven, why would the Lord resurrect people who are already in heaven so he can take them to heaven? Jesus said, In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:2 & 3 One futurist teacher of an adult Sunday school class misrepresented Jesus as saying, “I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where you are, there I may be also.” - the opposite of what Jesus said.
“Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
@@analyticalhabitrails9857Then get ready. Fall on your knees and lay prostrate!! Cry out to Jesus, and repent for all of your Sins!!! ❤❤❤❤This Man is a liar, Jesus will rapture those who are filled with his Holy Ghost, water/fire baptized, He is waiting with open arms.!! Tell Jesus that you want to know Him more and learn.
In my fathers house, there are many rooms I go to prepare a place for you and if I go, I will come again and take you to myself that where I am there you will be also. To take something thing is to remove it from its current place and bring it to you. Where he is there we will be also. When Where is Jesus? In heaven of course. There we will be also.
Exactly! Rapture deniers fail to connect John 14:1-3 with 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The Rapture is Not about the Coming (Parousia) of a conqueror but the coming of the Bridegroom for His Bride (Matthew 25:1-13), the Elect.
@@fohponomalama5065 How blind can you be? The parousia is not a technical word for only the Lords coming. The rapture is simply the resurrection of those who are alive when Jesus comes the 2nd time. Talk about failures!
Since the beginning of Christianity Christians have confessed their belief that Jesus will come again. It's in both the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed, but until fairly recently the understanding has been that Jesus will return only once, not twice.
@@VeridicusMaximus Paul didn't have his own teachings, he only taught the same gospel Matthew, Mark, Luke and John taught. There's only 1 gospel of Christ and that's from Matthew to Revelation.
I grew up in the 70s with movies like A thief in the Night and A Distant Thunder, and songs like I Wish We'd All Been Ready. I tried to argue for the rapture with a newer pastor, but all I had was media. I read more of the Bible, as he challenged me, and eventually all of the Bible, and I found only support for the return of Jesus ending it all. The parable of the Weeds was a great example. This video was informative, confrontational, but not demeaning. Great job.
Harpazo is translated “caught up” or “caught away” the five times (out of. thirteen) it appears in the Bible relating to rapture. The other eight times it is translated, “to. forcibly seize upon, snatch away, take to oneself or use force on someone.” 3.
@@roypel3720 Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36
Rapture or no Rapture. Be ready for Christ. Walking with Jesus(while you are alive here on earth) is our FIRST priority.😅 Jesus takes care of his people regardless.🥰🥰
His people are only in His church, where A Cappella singing is commanded. (EPHESIANS 5:19; COLOSSIANS 3:16). Jesus Christ is not the God of manmade doctrines, “He’s only the God of the New Testament church.” (ACTS 4:12) God did not create denominations, and denominations are not going to heaven!
I agree with you... rapture...no rapture...pre trib...post trib...no trib..... whatever God has that in control don't worry about it.. Jesus is more concerned about the salvation of our souls...the minute you die its over for you
Nope. It is living by the 10 Commandments. Then Jesus. But I think you got it. I mean we are judged by our actions. And not thoughts. And walking with Jesus assumes living by the Commandments?
Because thou has keep the word of my patience I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth Revelation 3:21
That’s not what “the rapture” is, and there’s more that we base it and even other end times ideas. Revelations has to be read in context and a couple of verses elsewhere assume the *modern* ideas of inerrancy and literalism, more are not early or otherwise historic ideas. Allegory and parables are also lost on people out of context. He even gives it in this video.. though it still is doing all of the above- so much more learning and unpacking to do. Even Jews see the OT differently and some are still trying to learn the intent to be consistent. Even beyond that, it’s important to understand that allegories in the Old Testament are not what we think. Even extreme groups about the rapture don’t see most of the verses that are used as talking about it. Only see 1 Thessalonians he cited as supporting it. I’m sure people vary because the ones who were most intense about it before the last 7-8 years or so focused so much on staying in each book of the Torah for a year or two at a time and talking about it literally or whatever they came up with outside of Jewish understanding of underling meanings. Good times. Even Left Behind books- the author prefaces in first pages that it’s a work of fiction and isn’t necessarily supporting anything in the Bible. This is still incredibly literal, out of context. Revelations is about Roman Empires persecution and the Jews and early Christians, and Paul or whomever wrote Thessalonians and others has a range of conflicting ideas, including thinking Jesus was coming back soon, at least when taking consistently literal. It’s important to not just believe what people tell you that you should or must believe.
@TRUTHINCHRIST-cw8ke This guy missed the mark in many ways. All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5) Sorry, this man needs to study more.
@TRUTHINCHRIST-cw8ke I think you know, but you disagree, so have at it & explain *WHY* this isn't speaking of the tribulation period, and *WHY* you think it doesn't point to the fact that the church will be kept from it.
In Revelation 3:10 just about every preacher that I hear teach this text as applying it to the entire world but it's not to be applied to the whole world. Brother start using a Greek translation when it comes to studying the New Testament and all of the Bible the Old Testament in Hebrew That word "World in the Greek is the word Oikoumene which means the inhabited land which is Jerusalem and the Roman Empire because Jerusalem was a province of Rome if it was referring to the entire world the Greek translation would have the word Kosmos which means the entire world. The book of Revelation is about the Time of Jacob's troubles ( Jer.30:7 ) 7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. God bless 🙌 🙏
People have already covered the Scripture for the rapture. To me, knowing God’s character, His love of the church, and how He rescues His people, it seems that the rapture is indicative and in alignment with Who He is. Also, Scripture backs it up as others have written here. However, those of you who want to go through the tribulation, have at it. 😊 The important thing is to know Christ and be ready.
The *trauma* I experienced as a young child who loved Jesus, yet would still get scared that I had been left behind when I couldn’t find my parents! So much torment for a little girl.
@@Cherryhill335 no such thing as a rapture I believe the OP is stating that this falsehood created such fear for them that when they couldn't find their parents they thought they had been left behind, that they weren't part of the rapture
Its ironic that hysteria over the "rapture" is what lead a huge chunk of my family to God. Someone showed my great grandma a movie called "thief in the night" and she basically converted my entire family 😅.
The producers of that movie have their reward in heaven! It scared the hell out of me & many friends & family! Eventually, I came to know & love the Lord & not because of being scared of hell.
Christianity is the path through struggle. It makes no sense that we would not struggle with the sinners through Tribulations... This just sounds like wishful thinking... It would be better to be prepared to not be raptured than prepare to be rapture only to find you're still here....
@@kingkoi6542 Amen! The Bible teaches that God has will guide us through tribulation, not save us from it. Just look at Joseph in prison, Moses in the wilderness and Jesus in Gethsemane. God will give us strength to overcome, just have faith and trust in Him!
Thessalonians 4:16-18 "For The Lord himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet with The Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with The Lord. Therefore comfort each other with these words."
When He comes, 'one will be taken and one will be left'. Pray you are one to be left. As it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be during the coming of the Son of man. Only the wicked were taken during the flood. Noah and his family remained.
@@Here12years Scripture to back up this claim, please. 'Second Coming' means He is visible for EVERY eye to see. I'd like to see some scripture backing up the claim that Jesus comes and remains in the sky until the tribulation is done. Scripture CONSTANTLY tells us that God will deliver/keep/protect us THROUGH tribulations, not take us from them, or them from us. Rapture theology doesn't work. It's also very new (+- 120 years), introduced through Darby and the Schofield Bible. This is also where you get Zionism. It's ugly. It's not Biblical. It's a heresy.
@@mikegraves8628 Matt.24, The whole point of the "days of Noah" reference. The context has nothing to do with Noah,or how God saved Noah. The point Jesus was making was HOW they were living in the days of Noah,just before the flood (judgment) came and drowned all of them. They were "eating and drinking,marry,and giving away in marriage," another words business as usual, all the while,NOT KNOWING that judgment was upon them. Then Jesus said "and so also will be the coming ..." This clearly indicates He is talking about coming Before the judgments,before the tribulation. Not after. Jesus quoted Daniel 12 and mentions "the abomination". ALL the Jews knew this prophecy,that's why Jesus quoted it. Now, Jesus commanded,not suggested,that we keep watch over all the signs,right? Why should we? How can Jesus come unexpectedly? because Jesus CANNOT come at any time! Oh no,not "the Day Of The Lord",which comes at the end of the tribulation.. Why? Because the rest of Daniel 12,which Jesus started to quote, reads: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. So here, there is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,RETURNS to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. So now you have a major contradiction. if you were taught biblical exegesis and hermeneutics,you would know that there are rules. Rule that can't be broken if you're being honest with what scripture is saying. Not what you want it to say. And this is one of the big rules.You cannot have a direct contradiction like this. If Jesus is teaching that He will come unexpectedly, which was the whole point of the Matt.24 "like in the days of Noah" analogy, then this His coming that He is referring to is,IS NOT the return at the end of the tribulation. Which is know as "the Day Of The Lord".It can't be,because we know that coming will happen, to the very day. Why should we keep watch over "all these things" He commanded us to? How can people be living "business as usual" and making plans for their future,ALL through the tribulation,until the end,when very few people are even alive?! How can ALL the churches just "fall asleep",(Matt.25,parable of the ten bridesmaids) while the Antichrist is killing all the saints ? Rev.13:7 Did the apostles know what the church was when Jesus taught "Upon this rock I shall build my church,and the gate of hell shall never prevail against it"? No! They didn't know what the church was. That word ecclesia meant "called out ones". Who was that? Did they know the church would be mostly gentiles,under a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant? No. Not for decades. Only Paul had the "mystery"of the church and the rapture revealed to him.Thirty plus years later. Only the writer of Hebrews knew there was going to be a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant. Because the new covenant was for gentiles,the church. So,in the Olivet discourse,in three of the gospels, when Jesus taught about His returning,they,and everyone listening to Jesus,who knew the prophets, had no clue about the rapture.Because they didn't have a clue about what the church was! They only knew the Day Of the Lord,which comes at the end of the tribulation. Everyone who followed Jesus was looking for the Messiah to come and set up His kingdom reign. But the things He was teaching and prophesying just didn't make sense. Not to the Jews or the apostles. Think about it,with what you knew of O.T. prophecies and then listening to Jesus teach here,wouldn't you be confused? You can't separate the prophecies concerning the Jews,and the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel,and possibly the "bridesmaids who ran out of oil" (they were left out of the wedding (the rapture)but it doesn't mean they can't repent,from the church. Not if you didn't know what the church is. And thats the problem Post Trib believers have. They see the tribulation saints,as the church,going through the judgments of God's wrath. But our faith has already been proven,or we wouldn't have been raptured in the first place,get it. It's the tribulation saints (notice they're not ekklesia) ,which in part must be the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel,who's faith is being tested.
@@Dan-g6d The abomination of desolation occurred in AD 70. The ancient church understood this, which is exactly why Christ said "this generation will surely not pass till ALL is fulfilled". What generation? THAT generation. The generation He was speaking to. Again, I will say that the Rapture doctrine is new. It did not exist 200 years ago. It's not Biblical. The Rapture doctrine also gives way to a 'second chance', that you may be saved after the church has been Raptured. When Jesus returns suddenly, that's it. "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.” When He comes, EVERY eye will see Him, even those that pierced Him. Insinuating that those that crucified our Lord have been resurrected. "The dead in Christ shall rise FIRST, THEN we which are alive and REMAIN shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord". Context is everything. If the dead are rising, this is the resurrection. Every human being that has ever existed will be resurrected, either to eternal life, or will face the second death. THAT is Biblical. Nowhere in Scripture is there described a SECRET Rapture event where only Christians will disappear, and then all of the sudden the tribulation takes place. Also; 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says He will RETURN with a SHOUT. Not very secretive. It's pretty clear when you read it for what it says. Dispensationalism leads the church astray, and it's specifically a Western church theology. Regarding Israel and the 144,000, you're ASSUMING they're Jews. That's your westernized interpretation of the Word. Israel was made up of 12 tribes. 10 of them were cast out of the land and are now referred to as the "lost tribes". If you know anything about ancient history, you'll find that these 10 tribes make up the modern world/nations. For example, the tribes of Dan, Ashur, and Nephtali settled in Scandinavia, Denmark, etc. and ended up making what is today the German, French, Danish, and other people groups. These tribes didn't just 'disappear'. They migrated over to Europe, and they weren't 'Jewish'. The modern day state of Israel is made up of Ashkenazi Jews, who aren't children of Shem (Semitic), but of Japheth (Gomer/Ashkenaz). At the end of the day, it sounds like you are fully in on this Rapture business, and there's nothing I can say to change your mind. All I can say is that I hope your faith is strong and doesn't fail you in the day of trouble and He hasn't returned yet. My parents believe the same things you do, and there's nothing I can say to change their minds.
Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36 Oh and before opening of the FIRST seal...... Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; (Did you see?? "Redeemed us to GOD" from every nation, kindred and tongue?) 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. The 24 elders are in heaven with Jesus, before the opening of the seals. Who is the 24 elders? In verse 9 we read: "for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" Who is redeemed from every tongue, people and nation?
@@justmyopinion7 The first part of your comment was referring to escaping the things that are about to happen. Isaiah 57:1-2 Is talking about the righteous perishing and no one takes it to heart and considers that by their death they are taken away from the evil to come. Therefore... escaping. Entering into peace, Resting in their beds and walking in their uprightness.
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
@@Here12years yeah there’s a couple books out there. There is no rapture and they explain why what it says when Jesus comes down he’s gonna raise the dead and he’s gonna bring his living followers and he’s gonna come down here and judge the end
This is a very good video to put clarity into the Bible passages that are used to imply that there is a Rapture. And as I read through the comments, it is very apparent that there are many defenders of the Rapture teachings, and they are definitely speaking against your interpretation of these passages. I am of the same (or similar) beliefs as you are about the Rapture teaching. To think that God would take away a subset of believers to heaven, to sit and eat their popcorn as they watch the earth’s tribulation events, is against the nature of a loving God. And since most Rapture defenders generally think they will be included in the group being raptured because they are “believers in Jesus Christ” is not a valid discriminator of who should be included. I believe as you have said, that we will ALL be present on earth during the tribulation, and that our faith will protect us while we endure the tribulation. Our faith needs to be strong and complete, even in the face of the horrors of tribulation, in order to show God that we are immovable in our faith. Those who survive the tribulation will be rewarded when we greet Jesus upon his return to earth. Any other belief in some sort of Rapture is really a false hope to people, and is a dangerous teaching that will cause “supposedly true believers” to become lax with their faith, believing that one day Jesus will come and rapture them prior to the tribulation. The three parables in Matthew 25, the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13), the bags of gold (Matthew 25:14-30) and the sheep and goats (Matthew 25:31-46) are three examples of the tests of faith that believers will face. These parables all deal with interactions between God and man (believers), and their reactions/responses are tests of faith for them. In all three parables, all of the believers are not guaranteed passage into heaven! So please, all of you who are diehard Rapture believers because your pastors have convinced you, read these Bible passages with an open mind, rather than a mindset to convince you of what you already have been taught. And ask the Holy Spirit for guidance to understand.
Although am a Rapture believer, I can appreciate your opinion. Their are many scriptures for both positions on the matter. At the end of the day, I believe God gains no value from punishing the faithful during his wrath. Prior to the Tribulation (a period of pure Hell like no other), his believers dead/alive will be "caught-up" to Jesus, thus avoiding God's wrath on unbelievers at that point and time. That said, those who become believers thereafter will have a chance to heaven on the "day-of-the Lord". Unfortunately, as the bible says, they may be headless.
Agreed. It’s important to remember we are part of a global and eternal church. To think our tiny sliver has it all figured out and the others are wrong is a dangerous path to start down.
@@Grace777-love Why do dead believers need to be caught up to Jesus? And why does God need to remove believers during his wrath? There were times in the Old Testament when God inflicted His wrath on people, and there were others around them who were not removed from it, but were protected during it. The plagues in Exodus, culminating in the Passover, are good examples. God allows a remnant of His people to be protected while chaos happens all around them. But these people are identified by their unwavering faith in God. It’s still up to each individual to demonstrate unwavering faith in God, no matter what the circumstances are.
'“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. And where I go you know, and the way you know.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.' - John 14:1-6 NKJV
@santa_claus-north_pole so where is the celebrations of the wedding of the groom according to the parable of the 10 virgins, heaven or earth. Revelations 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
Right on!!! Keep showing what GODS word Says! You need FAITH to be in this number, not the mockery of demons they always mocked at Gods servants, even mocked at Jesus CONSTANTLY. It's like they have DNA that makes them do this! context The scripture is talking those NOT ASLEEP and are watching. (WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR?, and why are you mocking it!) 1 Thessalonians 4;16 "For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;" 17 "then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Corinthians 15:52 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. John 14:3 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. Revelatioins 3:10-11 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
(II Thessalonians Chapter 2) "I beseech you, therefore, Bretheren, by the coming of our LORD, and our gathering together unto Him . . . Right there is your rapture.
Amen! The 3 most important things to remember in interpreting Scripture are context, context, context! I differ with your conclusion on where God's people are taken in I Thess. 4, everything else you said is correct. The instantaneous change in I Cor. 15 is Not a change in location, but a change in nature from mortal to immortal. Overall, good job!
Matthew 12:40 KJV - For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Now let's see, the bible is supposedly the word of God and the authors were inspired by God to write the truth, Well God didn't do a very good job of proof reading because there are a lot of outright lies and stories that just don't stack up. For example, Samson was bound by ropes and as he was delivered to the Philistines he broke his bonds and grabbed a piece of bone using it as a weapon, he then set about slaughtering 1000 armed and trained Philistine soldiers by himself, this is incredible because even if he was super strong and he killed two or three it would be possible, but to believe that he was surrounded by 1000 armed men and he killed them all is just a blatant lie, maybe God helped him and if that was the case why didn't God just kill them himself and spare Samson the trouble? but apparently God didn't intervene just as he's not going to intervene if you are ever in trouble. The jaw bone of an ass that Samson used as a weapon would have been worn out and broken after the first 100 kills and Samson would have looked like a porcupine covered with spears and arrows, how long did it take him to finish the battle? killing 1000 soldiers must have taken a long time, possibly weeks of constant battle without a rest. This old time Superman story might have been believed by people living in the dark ages but it stretches credulity to the limit today. The story of Samson is a lie, just as the story of Jonah is a lie, he supposedly lived inside a fish for three days before being vomited up on the shore, the only fish large enough to swallow a man whole is a whale and if that happened he would have been drowned in the whales stomach almost immediately, After three days the whale swam to the shore to deposit Jonah on dry land, very convenient. If it had ejected him in deep water he would have been fish food, Oh well, blind faith covers everything. Now let's get to Noah, if there was torrential rain for forty days and nights the sea levels around the world would hardly rise at all (Google-Physics 333 Noah’s flood) hardly enough to get the Ark afloat and there would still be plenty of dry land, The Ark floated around for the best part of a year yet there was enough food aboard to feed 500,000 animals, the animals traveled back to their own countries after the cruise finished, the story of Noah is another lie. Now let's talk about Moses, NO let's not talk about him because his stories are more incredible and unbelievable, The tower of Babel NO, Sodom and Gomorrah NO, Jesus feeding the multitude with a handful of fish and twelve loaves of bread NO, walking on water etc. etc. NO, we should leave these fanciful stories to your common sense, Gee I'm asking a lot to expect common sense from Christians.
Jesus was speaking of His time during death in the belly of earth, defeating satan, snatching the keys, and leading captivity captive, then being resurrected in victory.
Now let's see, the bible is supposedly the word of God and the authors were inspired by God to write the truth, Well God didn't do a very good job of proof reading because there are a lot of outright lies and stories that just don't stack up. For example, Samson was bound by ropes and as he was delivered to the Philistines he broke his bonds and grabbed a piece of bone using it as a weapon, he then set about slaughtering 1000 armed and trained Philistine soldiers by himself, this is incredible because even if he was super strong and he killed two or three it would be possible, but to believe that he was surrounded by 1000 armed men and he killed them all is just a blatant lie, maybe God helped him and if that was the case why didn't God just kill them himself and spare Samson the trouble? but apparently God didn't intervene just as he's not going to intervene if you are ever in trouble. The jaw bone of an ass that Samson used as a weapon would have been worn out and broken after the first 100 kills and Samson would have looked like a porcupine covered with spears and arrows, how long did it take him to finish the battle? killing 1000 soldiers must have taken a long time, possibly weeks of constant battle without a rest. This old time Superman story might have been believed by people living in the dark ages but it stretches credulity to the limit today. The story of Samson is a lie, just as the story of Jonah is a lie, he supposedly lived inside a fish for three days before being vomited up on the shore, the only fish large enough to swallow a man whole is a whale and if that happened he would have been drowned in the whales stomach almost immediately, After three days the whale swam to the shore to deposit Jonah on dry land, very convenient. If it had ejected him in deep water he would have been fish food, Oh well, blind faith covers everything. Now let's get to Noah, if there was torrential rain for forty days and nights the sea levels around the world would hardly rise at all (Google-Physics 333 Noah’s flood) hardly enough to get the Ark afloat and there would still be plenty of dry land, The Ark floated around for the best part of a year yet there was enough food aboard to feed 500,000 animals, the animals traveled back to their own countries after the cruise finished, the story of Noah is another lie. Now let's talk about Moses, NO let's not talk about him because his stories are more incredible and unbelievable, The tower of Babel NO, Sodom and Gomorrah NO, Jesus feeding the multitude with a handful of fish and twelve loaves of bread NO, walking on water etc. etc. NO, we should leave these fanciful stories to your common sense, Gee I'm asking a lot to expect common sense from Christians.
1 Thessalonian 4:17 then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord.
@@jred7I also used to believe rapture was not actually in the Bible, however it's mentioned a lot in the New testament. Even after watching the video, by reading everything, you know that Skye in this case took many out of context or didn't understand it himself. Rapture is real and will happen, but there will be much suffering before it occurs. Unlike what many believe, rapture is also God killing his elect because you must die according to the sin of Adom and Eve. It happens to spare of the final destruction and then immediately after is the millennium kingdom and first resurrection.
I truly worry about an ex-friend of mine who not only fully believes the Rapture is coming soon, but has basically put her entire life on hold because she doesn't see the point in investing any of her time, energy or talents into ANYTHING other than waiting for the Rapture to carry her to Heaven. It literally has become about the only thing she wanted to talk about every time I call her, and in the end, I just could not stand it anymore. I will pray for her, but I REFUSE to indulge her delusion any longer.
Yeah they idolize that false pre rapture thing, probable to the point they worship it, you can't wake them up no matter how much truth you show them, their walking around in a stupor...about all one can do is pray for them and hope Christ wakes them up before it's to late...
I'm sorry to hear about your friend's extremism on the Rapture. If she would go back to the Bible on the matter, as a godly person you are not to fear and/or stop living for the Rapture event. In these times (school massacres, insane road rage, constant civil chaos, etc.) it's easy to "want" to escape to a better place. God's blessing in the Rapture will come to the faithful (body of Christ, the church). For now, she needs to focus on the life God gave her today, just stay true to the faith.
She's not the only one. This is my huge problem with other believers as well- they don't plan for the future or handle their business because they are sitting around waiting for the rapture. I don't understand the sentiment- for all we know the end times could be thousands of years in the future. The early church thought Jesus would come back in their lifetimes.
I am trying to explain to my dad that the Catholics like me don’t believe in the Rapture and it’s a false doctrine that was incorporated into the Bible of some religions in the 1800s via the quack John Darby
I believe what Skye means to say is there’s no such thing as a pre-tribulation rapture. The catching away is biblical and the word in 1 Thes 4 for that catching away in Latin is “rapturo”. The Greek is harpazo. In other words Skye does believe in the catching away which is the rapture. It’s just not pre-trib.
But it's not called the rapture, it's called the gathering of the saints, and it happens *after* the Tribulation, NOT before. See Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 7.
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@@desireehooper9650 Amen! See my latest post to him. He is a Hope and Crown Thief. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
So many people will be discouraged from your explanation. I always thought there was rapture but I know we will be here during the tribulation. All God’s people must endure and go through this together to the other side! Amen!
If JESUS speaks with the TRUMPET of a GREAT ANGEL. EVERYONE WILL HEAR it. It is not limited to a mear mans perception. You need FAITH to be in this number, not the mockery of demons they always mocked at Gods servants, even mocked at Jesus CONSTANTLY. It's like they have DNA that makes them do this! context The scripture is talking those NOT ASLEEP and are watching. (WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR?, and why are you mocking it!) 1 Thessalonians 4;16 "For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;" 17 "then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Corinthians 15:52 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. John 14:3 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. Revelatioins 3:10-11 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Mike, the 'Trumpet' element is key. I go over that in my book, "Blast Off Rapiemur - Edition VI". VLSS, the 'last trump' was the blast that signaled the children to move out during their sojourn in the desert. @@BillBiggs1
So... Jesus had just finished telling Peter that he would deny Him 3 times.. and Judas is out betraying Him... so Christ is telling the 11 that He is going to prepare a place for THEM, and then come again for THEM and receive THEM unto Himself.. that where He is THEY may be also.... Why is it that THEY were flat out lied to... because they all missed your conjured fable that no Scripture even remotely offers? Paul calls the event "the resurrection of the dead"... 1 Cor 15:42-55... which you are well aware is the exact same event in 1 Thess 4;13-18 that Paul didn't' want us ignorant about. The resurrection of the dead does not occur until the heavens are destroyed with a great noise... Job 14;12, 2 Peter 3;10, Matt 24;35-42... all three of these passages show that the resurrection of the dead occurs when the heavens are destroyed... those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection... Rev 20;4-6... Every argument for a rapture is birthed out of deceit... every single one!
Yes, but the whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"! Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right
The key word in 1 Thessalonians 4:15 is “precede” which means before. We, who are alive, will in NO way precede those in death. We, believers, will be going through the tribulation but God’s wrath is NOT upon us.
I’m a relatively new sincere Christian, I have not found a church-but have been steadily praying-studying-in fact to be honest in the midst of all my confusion over different doctrine, and how to study, I honestly heard a voice in my left ear - so clear - study Paul the apostle for 8 months. Up to this point, I have come to understand there will not be an early rapture-and that we are at the birth pangs and relatively close to events leading to the start of the last 7 years-hope that all makes sense.
@@ronniepace8778 yes what I've heard in the Spirit is parallel to everything you've said. I am so grateful for the season of isolation He took me through and showed me the many layers of indoctrination. Stay in that intimate relationship with Him because He is the only Truth.
If some of the posts here have your head spinning. Allen Nolan's video provides a much clearer explanation of the Rapture. He's one of the most knowledgeable Christian pastors in the faith. Rapture ruclips.net/video/Eah6_m24sEg/видео.html
There is a rapture of Believers described in the Bible but it is not seperate or secret. It occurs at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and is clearly described in scripture.
The Rapture was invented by Margaret McDonald in 1835 and if you look up the word rapture in the dictionary it's an evil thing. David McPherson wrote several books on it you could Google him and read his documentation that there is no Rapture that it's Satan that's going to be preaching the Rapture because the first one that's taken in the field and Matthew 24 is Satan taking them in his fake rapture. God bless you
There is literally nothing in that passage that says Enoch was raptured. Reading your belief into the text won't make it true. Romans shows Paul saying that EVERYBODY from Adam to Moses died. That includes Enoch.
There is no such thing about people being left behind. Jesus will come back and get his people and everybody will see him. The people who hate jesus will ask the rocks to fall on them. Everybody will know.
Matthew 24:30-31 King James Version 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 King James Version 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Luke 17:34-37 King James Version 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.
Thank you so much for your teaching‼️ As a Catholic I didn’t believe in rapture. But- there is so much content on YT „pro rapture“, that I wasn’t 100% sure about it anymore. May God bless you and protect you ❗️🙏🏻 Greetings from Germany 🙋🏻♀️ Nicola
1 Thess 4:17 is where the word rapture is found. The word we use as "caught up" is called Harpadzo in the Greek. In the Latin vulgate it is transliterated into English as rapture or rapiemur. Thats where we get it from. We will meet him in the air...not on the ground. And then after He has received us to Himself He will take us to the place He has prepared for us (Jn 14:1-3).
Actually no. He said IF YOU ARE MY DISCIPLE, you will know the truth...... Amazing how many people leave out that predicative phrase before knowing the truth. Mike
@@DM-he1ug "Disciple" carries the idea of discipline. In any field, discipline means dedication. For us, that means being dedicated to hold and do what God's word tells us. If Jesus said to pray to ESCAPE the things he revealed and we neglect that, we already are off the path. There is a concerted effort by satan to nullify what God said. Why now, is this media giant (remember the giants?) recommending anti- "Blessed hope" vids in the right-side list? He and they are going down when Exodus II comes to pass, and his efforts now are to make that number who "Escape" as small as he can. Mike
@@mtwsenecaYes He is certainly doing his best to deceive and confuse as many as possible since he knows his time is short! Yes we should always pray that we are accounted worthy to escape the wrath that's going to come upon the world and to be worthy to stand before the Lord! God bless you and everyone in Jesus's mighty name!😊🕊🔥💖✝️🫂❤️
Jesus Christ (The Eternally Existing Son of God, God The Son, Savior, Christ) promises eternal life ONCE you believe he died for your sins, was buried, rose again the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved!
Another consideration is, what will happen to people’s faith who based their beliefs on the expectation that they would not have to endure any serious persecution? Jesus comment that “because of the increase in wickedness the love of most will grow cold” (Matt 24)was in context of being asked about his return. If you are counting on being raptured before things get too tough how will your faith hold up under extreme persecution? Shouldn’t our goal to be one who has a faith strong enough to be one of those who “overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”?? Rev 12:11
The book of Matthew was written for Jews and the bulk of Israel will go into the tribulation. Unfortunately, two thirds of Israel will be killed during the tribulation. The remaining third will turn to Christ and be saved and go on to rule with Christ during the millennian reign.
@hscollier Who said we're not going to endure serious persecution before the rapture. Have you studied the Olivet discourse in Matt.24? Jesus prophesied we would be persecuted,it's one of the signs. Are you aware of the statistics showing that more Christians are and have been persecuted in the last fifteen years,than in any other time in church history! How many have been killed in Africa ,India,and the middle east? Some were martyred,some were tortured,other's managed to escape as refugees,having to leave behind everything they own. How did their faith hold up? This is the message I'm posting everywhere I'm able to. A message,call it prophetic if you want,but this is what has shown me. Why did the apostles fall asleep in the garden? How could they allow that to happen? Jesus woke them up.And they went back to sleep?!!!! What?j Jesus had been telling them He was at the end of His ministry. He had been preparing them to carry it on for the last three years. Was he ever wrong? Never! And the apostles knew it. Why did they fall asleep? Do you ever see the apostles directly ignore an instruction Jesus gave them? Study the events just hours earlier and notice. At least John and Peter knew that Judas was going to betray Jesus. So,when Jesus woke up John and Peter,why didn't they notice that Judas had never returned? Now,look at what happened when the rude awakening came upon all of them. They were all overcome by fear. Peter takes up his sword,and tries to kill the guard coming at him. And denied knowing Jesus later. Jesus warned him,stay up and pray or you'll be overcome by temptation. And then all the apostles deserted Jesus and hid themselves away. Now Jesus commanded us to keep watch over the signs of His coming. It wasn't a suggestion!! And they're happening like never before! ALL of the are! (Jason A youtube channel is documenting them.) So we should be paying attention to what Jesus prophesied in Matt.24 and realize how close we are to His coming. Take note,Matt.25,which is post text to the Olivet discourse,the parable of the ten bridesmaids. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP.It's not just some ran out of oil. If just one had stayed awake,she could have warned the others,before it was too late.See that? Were any of them truly wise? There's a rude awakening coming to America. And we,you,need to warn those Christians who are asleep! Those who don't want to believe what Jesus taught,so they're ignoring the signs. ALL the signs are happening right now. Volcanoes and earthquakes erupting all over,breaking records. Hurricanes,floods,crop failure,gov't mandated destruction! (millions of chickens ordered destroyed because of one case of avian bird flu!),insect plagues,famines,the greatest persecution of Christians in church history, wars and rumors of wars. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming/ You know this. And the newly formed global economic system is already emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17.How hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? The apostles ignored Jesus prophecies because they just didn't want to believe it was all going to happen now.And they paid a price for not staying awake and praying when Jesus instructed them to. They were overcome by their fears. They blew their testimony.They ran away and deserted Jesus,and hid themselves away! And Christians are repeating this right now! Much of the church is asleep,just like Jesus taught. They're hoping trump will come back and everything will go back to being great again. That's not going to happen. This country is on the verge of collapse right now.And many Christians are falling away,just like Paul taught in 2Thess. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Most Americans are ignorant of the continuation of government protocols,executive orders,which under a national economic emergency,the president,who's now the Commander in Chief,along with the dept, secretaries,have the authority to seize every citizens personal property and assets,to pay off our national debt!Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming. Everyone awake knows this. And this global economic system,in planning for decades, is now emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17 in the bible.Which paves the way for the Antichrist to take over and rule. So hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? When martial law is declared you can be sure chaos and fear will spread like a wildfire across our nation. Now you say "if it happens"? IF? It's all been planned!!! Wake up. Why do you think millions are stocking up on food and supplies,and buy guns and ammo,in record numbers! Here;s a fact.America is not mentioned in bible prophecy. Many other countries are but we're not. Why do you think that is? Now ALL the signs Jesus warned about are happening like I've never seen before.And I've been studying bible prophecy for forty years now. Christians are having dreams and visions about the coming fall of America. Not just a few,but many are. So be wise and start praying,and preparing,because it's coming soon.
Who said we're not going to endure serious persecution before the rapture. Have you studied the Olivet discourse in Matt.24? Jesus prophesied we would be persecuted,it's one of the signs. Are you aware of the statistics showing that more Christians are and have been persecuted in the last fifteen years,than in any other time in church history! How many have been killed in Africa ,India,and the middle east? Some were martyred,some were tortured,other's managed to escape as refugees,having to leave behind everything they own. How did their faith hold up? This is the message I'm posting everywhere I'm able to. A message,call it prophetic if you want,but this is what has shown me. Why did the apostles fall asleep in the garden? How could they allow that to happen? Jesus woke them up.And they went back to sleep?!!!! What?j Jesus had been telling them He was at the end of His ministry. He had been preparing them to carry it on for the last three years. Was he ever wrong? Never! And the apostles knew it. Why did they fall asleep? Do you ever see the apostles directly ignore an instruction Jesus gave them? Study the events just hours earlier and notice. At least John and Peter knew that Judas was going to betray Jesus. So,when Jesus woke up John and Peter,why didn't they notice that Judas had never returned? Now,look at what happened when the rude awakening came upon all of them. They were all overcome by fear. Peter takes up his sword,and tries to kill the guard coming at him. And denied knowing Jesus later. Jesus warned him,stay up and pray or you'll be overcome by temptation. And then all the apostles deserted Jesus and hid themselves away. Now Jesus commanded us to keep watch over the signs of His coming. It wasn't a suggestion!! And they're happening like never before! ALL of the are! (Jason A youtube channel is documenting them.) So we should be paying attention to what Jesus prophesied in Matt.24 and realize how close we are to His coming. Take note,Matt.25,which is post text to the Olivet discourse,the parable of the ten bridesmaids. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP.It's not just some ran out of oil. If just one had stayed awake,she could have warned the others,before it was too late.See that? Were any of them truly wise? There's a rude awakening coming to America. And we,you,need to warn those Christians who are asleep! Those who don't want to believe what Jesus taught,so they're ignoring the signs. ALL the signs are happening right now. Volcanoes and earthquakes erupting all over,breaking records. Hurricanes,floods,crop failure,gov't mandated destruction! (millions of chickens ordered destroyed because of one case of avian bird flu!),insect plagues,famines,the greatest persecution of Christians in church history, wars and rumors of wars. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming/ You know this. And the newly formed global economic system is already emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17.How hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? The apostles ignored Jesus prophecies because they just didn't want to believe it was all going to happen now.And they paid a price for not staying awake and praying when Jesus instructed them to. They were overcome by their fears. They blew their testimony.They ran away and deserted Jesus,and hid themselves away! And Christians are repeating this right now! Much of the church is asleep,just like Jesus taught. They're hoping trump will come back and everything will go back to being great again. That's not going to happen. This country is on the verge of collapse right now.And many Christians are falling away,just like Paul taught in 2Thess. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Most Americans are ignorant of the continuation of government protocols,executive orders,which under a national economic emergency,the president,who's now the Commander in Chief,along with the dept, secretaries,have the authority to seize every citizens personal property and assets,to pay off our national debt!Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming. Everyone awake knows this. And this global economic system,in planning for decades, is now emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17 in the bible.Which paves the way for the Antichrist to take over and rule. So hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? When martial law is declared you can be sure chaos and fear will spread like a wildfire across our nation. Now you say "if it happens"? IF? It's all been planned!!! Wake up. Why do you think millions are stocking up on food and supplies,and buy guns and ammo,in record numbers! Here;s a fact.America is not mentioned in bible prophecy. Many other countries are but we're not. Why do you think that is? Now ALL the signs Jesus warned about are happening like I've never seen before.And I've been studying bible prophecy for forty years now. Christians are having dreams and visions about the coming fall of America. Not just a few,but many are. So be wise and start praying,and preparing,because it's coming soon.
@hscollier Who said we're not going to endure serious persecution before the rapture. Have you studied the Olivet discourse in Matt.24? Jesus prophesied we would be persecuted,it's one of the signs. Are you aware of the statistics showing that more Christians are and have been persecuted in the last fifteen years,than in any other time in church history! How many have been killed in Africa ,India,and the middle east? Some were martyred,some were tortured,other's managed to escape as refugees,having to leave behind everything they own. How did their faith hold up? This is the message I'm posting everywhere I'm able to. A message,call it prophetic if you want,but this is what has shown me. Why did the apostles fall asleep in the garden? How could they allow that to happen? Jesus woke them up.And they went back to sleep?!!!! What?j Jesus had been telling them He was at the end of His ministry. He had been preparing them to carry it on for the last three years. Was he ever wrong? Never! And the apostles knew it. Why did they fall asleep? Do you ever see the apostles directly ignore an instruction Jesus gave them? Study the events just hours earlier and notice. At least John and Peter knew that Judas was going to betray Jesus. So,when Jesus woke up John and Peter,why didn't they notice that Judas had never returned? Now,look at what happened when the rude awakening came upon all of them. They were all overcome by fear. Peter takes up his sword,and tries to kill the guard coming at him. And denied knowing Jesus later. Jesus warned him,stay up and pray or you'll be overcome by temptation. And then all the apostles deserted Jesus and hid themselves away. Now Jesus commanded us to keep watch over the signs of His coming. It wasn't a suggestion!! And they're happening like never before! ALL of the are! (Jason A youtube channel is documenting them.) So we should be paying attention to what Jesus prophesied in Matt.24 and realize how close we are to His coming. Take note,Matt.25,which is post text to the Olivet discourse,the parable of the ten bridesmaids. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP.It's not just some ran out of oil. If just one had stayed awake,she could have warned the others,before it was too late.See that? Were any of them truly wise? There's a rude awakening coming to America. And we,you,need to warn those Christians who are asleep! Those who don't want to believe what Jesus taught,so they're ignoring the signs. ALL the signs are happening right now. Volcanoes and earthquakes erupting all over,breaking records. Hurricanes,floods,crop failure,gov't mandated destruction! (millions of chickens ordered destroyed because of one case of avian bird flu!),insect plagues,famines,the greatest persecution of Christians in church history, wars and rumors of wars. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming/ You know this. And the newly formed global economic system is already emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17.How hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? The apostles ignored Jesus prophecies because they just didn't want to believe it was all going to happen now.And they paid a price for not staying awake and praying when Jesus instructed them to. They were overcome by their fears. They blew their testimony.They ran away and deserted Jesus,and hid themselves away! And Christians are repeating this right now! Much of the church is asleep,just like Jesus taught. They're hoping trump will come back and everything will go back to being great again. That's not going to happen. This country is on the verge of collapse right now.And many Christians are falling away,just like Paul taught in 2Thess. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Most Americans are ignorant of the continuation of government protocols,executive orders,which under a national economic emergency,the president,who's now the Commander in Chief,along with the dept, secretaries,have the authority to seize every citizens personal property and assets,to pay off our national debt!Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming. Everyone awake knows this. And this global economic system,in planning for decades, is now emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17 in the bible.Which paves the way for the Antichrist to take over and rule. So hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? When martial law is declared you can be sure chaos and fear will spread like a wildfire across our nation. Now you say "if it happens"? IF? It's all been planned!!! Wake up. Why do you think millions are stocking up on food and supplies,and buy guns and ammo,in record numbers! Here;s a fact.America is not mentioned in bible prophecy. Many other countries are but we're not. Why do you think that is? Now ALL the signs Jesus warned about are happening like I've never seen before.And I've been studying bible prophecy for forty years now. Christians are having dreams and visions about the coming fall of America. Not just a few,but many are. So be wise and start praying,and preparing,because it's coming soon.
With your "observation," could you please define in 30 words or less what dispensationalism even is? If it's not asking too much, go ahead & tell us WHY it's not scriptural.
@@Kman. Thank you for your question. To answer your questions: 1. Dispensationalism is defined correctly at 5:04 in this video. 2. It is Impossible to list all Biblical scriptures in under 30 words all the scriptural evidence that demands a verdict that disapproves Dispensationalism. To many scriptural both didactic and narrative in both Old and New Testament that states that God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit are the same yesterday, today, tomorrow and for all eternity. Thank you and May God Bless your journey and answer your questions directly into your heart.
@@LovinglyStonedProd I did not ask for scripture, I asked why the position is not scriptural... I'm out of town, and I am not at a computer but I will reply in more detail when I get back home from out of town.
@@LovinglyStonedProd One other thought before you try to define what dispensationalism is. It is NOT defined in this video at all, and forgive me, but I highly doubt that you're able to define it without trying to look up the definition.. He merely used the word. You simply are parroting what you have heard and have only made a denial. Cheers!
Its better to believe than to miss it. You won't know you are wrong untill it's too late,i will stay ready for my raptured soul to go to my home in heaven.
So true. Think about it, what value would God gain from punishing the faithful. It's the unbelievers that must be held accountable for the rejection of his son Jesus Christ. The Tribulation is theirs to experience, not the body of Christ, the church.
Read it again. This guy missed the mark in many ways. All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5) Sorry, this man needs to study more.
@@eds2525 If there is no trinity,and Jesus is not God,then our faith is in vain. And the tenets of Christian orthodoxy require the belief in these things. Anyone teaching otherwise is considered a false teacher,and a cult.
@@deydrm Well, I guess your faith is in vain then because there is only one GOD (The Father)and His Son (The Messiah)…….. The Spirit Holy Spirit of the Father will be on the Son to do His Will. All Christian denominations want to make the Son out to be this Separate Entity God from the Father doing his own will-independent of what the scriptures from the prophets say he will do when he returns. Everyone wish is to totally ignore the Father and hiIs words spoken by the prophets! Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Romans 13:1-2 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. Acts 17:3 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. Matthew 24:36 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Romans 2:16 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. John 5:30-31 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. John 14:10 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you? They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory. But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared. Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. John 5:19 Cling onto Jesus as being independent of the Father and be prepared to be told from the Father by the mouth of Jesus…… I never knew you!
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. If the pre trib rapture was true then the prophets would've prophesied it as @eds2525 stated...
Listen to your parents, they are right. This guy missed the mark in many ways. All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5) Sorry, this man needs to study more.
John, never stop communicating with your parents ... if they support the imminent Rapture or do not believe at all, my book deals specifically with the Bible, chapter and verse. I corrected Skye in an earlier post this a.m., up above, when he easily misunderstood the word 'taken', which from the Greek revals deliverance .. see the post ... Terry, TL Farley Books ...
Actually, there is a "rapture" that occurs for the believers that are alive, it is the being taken up into the air to meet The Lord as mentioned in the scriptures. We will be wherever Jesus is at from that point on.
The Bible does not teach a rapture of any kind, as Christ plainly prophecies in Matt. 24 that the whole world _will see_ Christ's saints being gathered to Him _when He returns_ . That's the part that makes the rapture doctrine inherently false. Nobody is going to be mysteriously zapped off the planet with no one knowing where they want, nor will it happen at any point before Christ's return.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 As I stated in my original reply, it is the believers that are alive being taken up in the air to meet The Lord, that is the rapture, of course the dead in Christ will rise first.
@@cameronsmith8427 Yes, that is it and I can't stay out of it because I'm a born again believer and when The Lord appears I along with other believers that are alive will be caught up in the air to meet the Lord. Or, if I'm already passed on then I'll be resurrected and meet The Lord in the air.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
And then we escort Jesus down to Earth. Welcoming Him back. The bible says His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives and the mountain will cleave. Jesus will set up His Kingdom in Jerusalem on My Zion. He goes from the Mount of Olives to Jerusalem through the Eastern Gate.
@@stevea2588 Without a rapture,and it must be Pre trib,you have some major contradictions in scripture.Now lets get something straight. This teacher claims dispensationalist won't teach out of Matt.24,or Luke 17,21. Thats not true,not at all. Jack Van Impe and Chuck Missler did. Many others have.Should I give him the benefit of the doubt that he's unaware, because it seems he's purposely trying to mislead people? Here's my teaching,as I studied under these guys,for decades,and others,and I am a Premillenial Dispensationalist. I've also been trained in Greek and Hebrew exegesis,and biblical hermeneutics. In Luke 17, 35,36,"One is taken (not killed). In the original Greek, from para lambano, to receive from,. The other left,from apo hiemi, left alone,sent away. Also not necessarily killed. One is received,or taken,one is left behind. In verse 37, the word "vulture" is mistranslated in the original manuscript.The Greek word is aeotos,which is clearly "eagles" ,not vultures. This verse is still a mystery,what does it mean? Because Eagles do not gather around dead bodies,eagles eat live prey. And the people of Jesus day,which was an agrarian society,knew this. It was purposely mistranslated because apparently the translators knew that only vultures gather around dead bodies. But it's there in Luke 17amd Matt.24,purposely written down as Eagles,not vultures. But here's the thing you missed.Luke 17:37,The apostles ask "WHERE" when Jesus says they were taken,or received(unto someone). WHERE were they taken? Jesus doesn't answer that. But those who say taken means killed,they're wrong. The apostles wouldn't ask 'where"if they understood it was killed. Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night". Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. So now,be the first Post Trib believer in over three decades of my experience debating the rapture, to answer this question,and the other points I'll bring. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch? In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,returns to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know this prophecy? Well the Pharisees surely did. So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? Why should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,please tell me? Now Luke 17:35 makes sense,get it. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31. But there it is,Jesus quoted Daniel 12,and 1335 days after the "abomination of desolation, Jesus will return. Why watch for it? How can He come when nobody knows?
This is all a lie do not believe this. By the power and the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and the Holy Spirit of Truth,you are rebuked. This was all spoken of, false prophets. Look up and Watch"Before The Wrath". There is a rapture He is coming any day for His faithful. Don't be left behind. If you are ready leave notes messages highlighted Bibles recordings anything telling the truth of where we went and how they can get there.
All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5) Sorry, this man needs to study more.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 says, "Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord"
So True. The fact that Jesus returns at the end of the seven-year Tribulation with His church is evidence that the Rapture must occur before the Tribulation begins. 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18 The words of these scriptures are given to us, as Jesus’ church, while waiting for the return of our Lord, to bring us comfort. Paul wrote these words of comfort and encouragement so that we would understand that Jesus could come for us at any moment. He will take us to heaven before the time of God’s wrath, which will be poured out "during" the seven-year Tribulation.
The ppl., in the flood were destroyed ,Not raptured ! The Rapture was not for that time ! That was not the end time ! Two different times two different events !
Did you listen to the whole thing? It seems you missed the solid arguments. There is only one time of resurrection where both the Holy and the wicked will be resurrected. 1 Thess 5 also refers to "coming in the clouds" as his "return". If a rapture is a "return", then we are looking for a second AND a third coming. Get it?
@@danielbu2611where is “his third coming” in the bible. That thess verse is about the last trumpet, all who have died in Jesus will be raised first. The reason why it says we shall be taken into the clouds is because earth will pass away when judgement is here
@@SaliasGaga Matt 24 is the most thorough telling of the return of Jesus, the second coming. Jesus said he would only return once to establish his kingdom. In Matt 24, he mentions clouds, the sky, a trumpet, a call of the archangel, a sign, and perhaps more I can't recall right now. EVERY "rapture" support passage mentions one of these events or the word "return". 1 Thess 4 and 5 are no different. He talks about meeting Jesus in the clouds using the Greek word used for going out to meet conquering leaders, then continues specifically mentioning it as Jesus' RETURN. Ignore that the number 5 starts a new chapter and realize that 1 Thess is a letter meant to be read continuously. chapter 5 is continuing what is said at the end of chapter 4. Therefore, if "coming in the clouds" refers to his return, then it is referring to the 2nd FINAL coming. Otherwise, a rapture would be a second coming (because it is referred to as a return) and Jesus' final coming would be a THIRD return. Does that make sense? In the end, it doesn't really matter. "Rapture or not" is one of the most useless debates in the church.
Yes there is no rapture. But.......... Thessalonians is talking about the day of the Lord when fire comes out of the sky and God melts the planet with a fervent beat. People who are saved will be called away but this is after Jesus returns at the end of his 1,000 year reign on earth. The 1,000 years begins at the end of the tribulation. There are two resurrections of the dead . The first when Jesus returns at the end of the tribulation , these dead are only the martyrs who died for Christ because of their faith. The second is at the end of the 1,000 year reign. Jesus comes back at the end of the tribulation not the beginning. There is no rapture. You have to read mid way through Revelation 19 when Jesus returns and the first 6 verses of Revelation 20 which spell's out the chronological return of Jesus . All other verses about His return have to work with these verses in Revelation.
Different events? a true christian ever read the bible in context? No but they act and judge like they did and why more Harvard students I am finding are becoming instant atheist after reading in context. What they show me is very upsetting being a believer of a Scam I hope Not. A-MEN
No it's not. If it were, it would've been a core doctrine of the church for almost 2 millennia. Pre-Trib rapture was a contemporary "doctrine" founded off lack of hermeneutics
I am convinced the last days are surely here deception & confusion is alive if he can convince a fraction of human beings to question God’s word BUT I say pray and ask God for guidance man will leave you astray trust me your soul depends on knowing the truth!
Well, I guess we'll see when that day comes. When the rapture does happen a lot of brothers and sisters will be surprised, expecting to go midtrib or post trib.... Shalom and Maranatha!
Think of it this way sister, no offense at all but i've studied this book of Gods great words thoroughly and had once believed pre trib as well but have now come to see and understand that its looking more like pre wrath whenever that is? 6th seal? Im not dogmatic and i really hope i am wrong on this one but if by chance we may have to go through a bit of a rough patch here the many who thought and followed people who told them that we get a completely free pass from anything to come will be the ones more disappointed and possibly loss of faith due to false hopes and persecutions which they believed were not to come to them. The way i see it in scripture is that we all should be ready to "STAND" no matter what comes our way.(PERSECUTIONS OR DEATH). Expect the worst hope for the best!
The ones thinking they are going to get a free pass are the ones that will be deceived by antichrist (satan) which comes first, peacefully and prosperously and performs miracles making people believe he’s the true Christ and has come to “rapture” them away… But I got news for you all.. You will be deceived by that son of perdition (the antichrist) spoken of in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 which comes before the true Christ. Better stop listening to your false preachers and study for yourself. You’re not going anywhere people!! Jesus is returning here to do away with evil once and for all and will make His Kingdom here on earth!
Leslie, well done, couldn't resist ... surprise for sure ... Scripture reveals 'hope' is actually more clearly translated from the Greek as 'anticipation' 51 times in the N.T. The other 7 times it is 'expected, or expecting." Thus, believers are encouraged to be daily anticipating Jesus' Shout, '... especially as you see the day approaching.' (Heb. 10:25). His Shingle is out now … “Blast Off Rapiemur - Edition VI” {His ‘atomic’ shout at any moment} Per Jesus : Take no thought for tomorrow … Genesis through Revelation 26+ Bible versions 1945+ Alpha Index 1770+ verses Spiritual Stamina … for Comfort, Strength & Spiritual Stamina ruclips.net/video/4TEJgFeNN9I/видео.html { Blast Off Rapiemur - Edition VI } ruclips.net/video/O0hlPBnC_q0/видео.html { ‘When Now Becomes Too Late & Distant Reaches }. Terry, TL Farley Books
@chrishawkins2759 Pre-wrath at the sixth seal is post-trib. The “wrath” that the Church is not appointed unto is the “orge” wrath only per the original Greek. This wrath is only mentioned 6 times in Revelation and is always in a post-trib context (cf. 1 Thess. 5:9; Rev 6:16-17; 11:18; 14:10; 16:19; 19:15). Remember, Revelation is written Semitically, not chronologically. There is recapitulation throughout the book. John writes about the Second Coming of Christ after the great tribulation more than once (eg. Rev 6-7, Rev 10-11, Rev 14, Rev 19-20). There’s a reason why it’s called The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Yes the rapture is in the Bible. Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth. 1Thessalonians 5:9-10 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep we might live with him. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (THEN) we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord. Luke 21:36 But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to (ESCAPE) all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” 1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath (TO COME).
Let's go over this, shall we? "Yes the rapture is in the Bible." Correct, but it ain't pretrib! "Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth." This is your FIRST verse you post?! This verse is not talking about the Rapture AT ALL! If you think it does, it's because some preacher CONNED you into that interpretation. The word "keep" mean to GUARD, not to Rapture you out of here. And "the hour of temptation (KJV)" is NOT what that same preacher told you it was. You can't claim the hour of temptation is linked to an Antichrist or the Mark of the Beast or anything else. You don't know that. It's just a false assumption made by PreTrib Dispensationalists who use eisegesis to make there false theology sound right. "1Thessalonians 5:9-10 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep we might live with him." And this is your SECOND go to verse?! This doesn't prove a Rapture. It just proves you don't understand the word "wrath". All this verse is saying is that we won't go through the 7 Vials, which are "the wrath of God" according to Revelation 15:1, 15:7, and 16:1. We get raptured "at the last trump" just before those 7 Vials. That ain't "PreTrib". It's Post Trib! "1 Thessalonians 4:17 (THEN) we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord." THIS should have been your FIRST go to verse. "Luke 21:36 But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to (ESCAPE) all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” How does this verse prove a Rapture?! It doesn't. But you're using it trying to prove "immanency" which is just NOT there in the Bible AT ALL. I'm more awake than you! I'm ready for the Rapture! But I know it'll be Post Trib. "1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath (TO COME)." Again, this verse doesn't prove a Rapture at all. Your biggest mistake here is your belief that the Seals and Trumpets are "the wrath of God". They're not! Go read Revelation 15:1, 15:7, and 16:1. Only the Vials are God's Wrath and they happen AFTER "the last trump" when we get Raptured.
Eman… excellent post. Great Bible proofs. I guess Anti-Rapture people are choosing to stay behind. Hopefully Jesus gives them a second chance to be raptured up in A mid Tribulation Rapture or an End of Tribulation Rapture to receive their imperishable body, right before the church comes back with Jesus to destroy the wicked and save the Jews to set up a Millennium Kingdom for a thousand years. Revelation 17:14, Revelation 19:14-16, Daniel 11:36, Zachariah 14:5. Revelation 20.
That’s not what “the rapture” is, and there’s more that we base it and even other end times ideas. Revelations has to be read in context and a couple of verses elsewhere assume the *modern* ideas of inerrancy and literalism, more are not early or otherwise historic ideas. Allegory and parables are also lost on people out of context. He even gives it in this video.. though it still is doing all of the above- so much more learning and unpacking to do. Even Jews see the OT differently and some are still trying to learn the intent to be consistent. Even beyond that, it’s important to understand that allegories in the Old Testament are not what we think. Even extreme groups about the rapture don’t see most of the verses that are used as talking about it. Only see 1 Thessalonians he cited as supporting it. I’m sure people vary because the ones who were most intense about it before the last 7-8 years or so focused so much on staying in each book of the Torah for a year or two at a time and talking about it literally or whatever they came up with outside of Jewish understanding of underling meanings. Good times. Even Left Behind books- the author prefaces in first pages that it’s a work of fiction and isn’t necessarily supporting anything in the Bible. This is still incredibly literal, out of context. Revelations is about Roman Empires persecution and the Jews and early Christians, and Paul or whomever wrote Thessalonians and others has a range of conflicting ideas, including thinking Jesus was coming back soon, at least when taking consistently literal. It’s important to not just believe what people tell you that you should or must believe.
@LaShayMcKeel-wc3mf The Book is called "Revelation". No wonder you're a Preterist. Your hermeneutic is horrible. When you reject what is literally said in favor of allegory, you make God a liar. You mislead and deceive by pushing Preterism.
@@LaShayMcKeel-wc3mf You have every right to decide that you want to go through the Tribulations and stay behind and go through the torturing wrath, so you can receive a better resurrection…however don’t keep trying to deceive others into going through it with you. Others believe in the Rapture/1Resurrection and we are going to meet Jesus in the clouds to go home with him to Heaven, like he promised. 1Thess 1:10, 1Thess 4:13-18, 1Thess 5:9, John 14:1-3. Good luck making it through without caving into Anti-Christ, the tortures, earthquakes, plagues, pestilence, starvation, bloody water, beheadings, being sawed in half, etc… Paul warned us not to want to go through this. Hebrews 11:35-40 says… There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated- 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground. 39 These were all commended for their faith, yet NONE of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something BETTER for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. Hebrews 11:35-40 You can only be made perfect through Jesus and what he has already done for us. He is enough.
"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of the trumpet, and they shall gather his elect from the four winds , from one end of heaven to the other. Matthew 24:31
the tribulation, where Christians get mass murdered for the faith in Jesus Christ. before that are pestilences, earthquakes, wars and rumors of war and nation against nation. so due to Matthew 24 the fig tree seems to ripe now....meaning JESUS is coming soon :) @@kimberlyboldt5213
Yes, but the whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"! Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right
@felixhinze8156 Yes....I do agree with you. It's very important for all to read and study scripture, the word of God. We need to rejoice and pray without ceasing. Our faith is in our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
@@kimberlyboldt5213 If you are going to ask for context here, then why are you not asking the man who made the video for context on I Corinthians 15? The context there is the inability for sinful flesh to receive the kingdom, but that we must have our heavenly bodies. Then it says that we who are left when the dead in Christ are raised will "be changed, in an instant"...changed to what? you might ask. Changed into the heavenly bodies from our earthly bodies. Kind of sounds like a rapture to me.
Yep good video! The parable of the wheat and tares goes against the rapture doctrine. So does Psalms 37. This rapture doctrine has been very destructive to America's "Christian" community.
For more information about Heaven coming to earth rather than us going to heaven I recommend the books "Simply Christian" or "Simply Jesus" by N.T. Wright. It was really the first time I had heard this ideas as well. The books aren't just about that, but they both have that as a theme.
@@Ampwich Yes. As I see in the scriptures. "We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:8) "For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart (physically die and leave) and be with Christ, which is far better." (Philippians 1:23) Yet, all those who those Christians who died in Christ will return with Him to rule and reign in Jerusalem at the resurrection of all the saints with their glorified bodies.
I appreciate the spirit which the video takes. I'm not a big fan of Christians beating each other up. I would like you to consider a few things. The words used in 1 Thes 4:17 are "catching away", to describe the event; "harpazo" in greek, "rapere" in latin. This is where we get the "rapture" nickname. Calling it the "catching away", doesn't stick as well, I guess. Secondly, if the passage is about "Jesus returning to rule the earth", why does Paul introduce the topic earlier in the book by saying, "They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead - Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath," 1 Thes 1:9b-10?
I don't know why we do this. Well what you did here and I did and others.. as if he does not know this already? Yeah this sits alone has been making videos for 9+ years so this it not new. To say in 2024 Rapture is not in the bible duh we all it refers to Caught up. Its so misleading and then look at what it has done. Caused more division.
It's not beating up on each other when other Christians quote scripture to defend the faith. If Paul was here, he would be all over the comment section and Jude would agree with him. "You should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3 RC
@@time_2_get_ready it's funny but true - but it is also sad. The reason for using Greek and Latin here is because brothers and sisters in Christ do not receive the English as authoritive enough to convince them that there is a rapture and not everyone in the church will be caught up not because they are not Christian but simply because they do not believe Jesus will come to save them from the wrath of God and the wrath of the lamb.
The coming wrath we are rescued from is the return of Christ. He returns to judge and wage war in a flaming fire on the unbelievers, and those who did not obey him, the tribulation is judgment for sin. Yes, Jesus died to forgive us for our sins, but we were never exempt from the consequences of sin.
Thank you for speaking the biblical truth. Its truly amazing how blind some people are. Its going to be so sad when the rapture doesn't happen and people fall away from GOD. Thus, scripture will be fulfilled. Thank you again for speaking the truth. There are some of us true christians that aren't deceived by this false doctrine.
Your confusing Christ's second coming to fulfil the new covenant and rule with the nation Israel (Acts 1:6) with the taking away (rapture) of the church "the body of Christ" 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6
In the era of Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey I was a young charismatic. I never bought into the rapture hysteria, it all seemed “too cute by half.” Then about thirty years ago I read a book (They Blessed Hope) that gave an orthodox explanation of the second coming. I’m glad that the original orthodox view is returning, especially in this time of a rise in Christian nationalism and Christian Zionism.
Don’t lump Christian nationalism with Christian Zionism. The first is concerned with creating a safe state where we can practice our faith free from increasing persecution. The second are heretics who don’t care about fellow believers and worships the state of Israel, while it murders their brothers in the faith and persecute Christians.
Once I got past the comment about my hometown of Portland I found this very helpful and presented well. Thank you, and honestly Portland is a bit weird but mostly in a good way.
I mean, 1Cor 15:52 does say we will be transformed at Christ’s return in the twinkling of an eye. And the 1Thess 4:17 passage does reference the rapture “caught up” So it is in the Bible… it’s just probably not what many think.
The subject matter in 1st Thessalonians 4 is in verse 13 where when Jesus Christ overcame death those that were asleep with him they're already in heaven on the right or the left side of the gulf noted in Luke 16:26
yup, & that change from physical to spiritual IS the "rapture" part of the first resurrection. for some reason, folks want to conflate various understandings of what "rapture" really means. just because it's not secret doesn't mean it doesn't occur Biblically. ;-)
@@infinityBBC Rapture is not in the KJV Bible the checkout 1 Corinthians 15 verse 51 and 52 we change into the spiritual body at the 7th Trump Revelation 11:15 and it's noted in 1 Corinthians 1544 we have two bodies we have a fresh body and we have a spiritual body inside our flesh body which we turn into either when we die or when we make to the 7th trunk. When we die we go straight to the gulf in Luke 16:26 and the Lord decides if we go to the right side where Lazarus went with Abraham in his bosom and he's with Jesus or we go to the left side a holding area for people that didn't overcome and didn't keep the ten commandments. There is no such thing as Rapture God condemns the Rapture and Ezekiel 13 versus 18 - 21 in the KJV Bible he hates it when fake teachers hunt souls to make people fly
Spot on. Been saying this for years. I held the dispensational view for years, and even taught it as a young minister. then I started studying and reading the major theologians and ancient church views. I had an emotional letting go of my view, it was hard.
@@VinnySuccessJesusfam Thank you for your concern. The Holy Spirit spoke to the church fathers and patristics for hundreds of years before the rapture was even a consideration in 1830. I assume they didn’t all miss the HS’s leading. A good principle for studying the Scriptures: “it cannot mean anything to us it did not mean to them (1st century audience).” If the rapture is a picture of hope for an audience thousands of years in the future, and it was written to a first century audience going through an unbelievable persecution…but it has no prophetic weight for their own hope, I think perhaps we’ve missed the point of the passages in modern times. It must mean something for the first century Messiah community.
My man, the "rapture" is the resurrection of the dead in Christ no matter if you think its pre. mid or post trib. Its all the rapture/Reassertion of the Saints in Christ. Anytime someone starts telling you there is no "rapture" in the Bible you can stop listening because they are speaking absolute foolishness and illustrating they should not be discussing the topic. A serious and studied Bible student/teacher will ALWAYS say I don't believe in a pre or mid or post trib rapture. They will NEVER......NEVER say "There is no rapture" That is embarrassingly foolish. They deny their own resurrection.
@@ExperienceEric Agreed. Paul’s language in 1 Thessalonians 4 is of the resurrection. Exactly. Do you think that’s the same as the belief that the rapture is a 7 year window of time in heaven around a banquet table while a Jewish remnant is being persecuted in the earth? That’s where I deviate from the modern understanding of the rapture.
As a believer, I try to put the scriptures I don't fully understand on a side burner, until I can decern them later. I try not to get too worked up about them until that time. Thank you for this enlightening explanation. Quite interesting.
I used to do that too. Trouble is, that side-burner is now chocked full. 2,000 years on and still debating fundamental Bible teachings/accounts. How much longer do we have to wait to know 'the truth that sets us free'?
My understanding is, you do not have to wait. Christ Jesus said HE IS the TRUTH. If you are in Christ you ARE free. His blood purifies us completely and frees us from sin and ALL unrighteous. IMO that is good news. @@DM-he1ug
The whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"! Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right?
@@schlix101 Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night". Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch? In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,RETURNS to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know the prophecies of Daniel? I can prove they did.Why would Jesus quote Daniel 12 in the first place? So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? WHY should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,explain that? In Luke 17, 35,36,"One is taken (not killed). In the original Greek, from para lambano, to receive from,. The other left,from apo hiemi, left alone,sent away. Also not necessarily killed. One is received,or taken,one is left behind. Now this is an important little detail..Luke 17:37,The apostles ask "WHERE" when Jesus says they were taken,or received(unto someone). WHERE were they taken? Jesus doesn't answer that. For those who say this has to do with the invasion of Jerusalem,when Titus destroyed the temple, they're wrong. According to O.T. prophecy about the Messiah,was he supposed to leave,and then come back? No.In fact,alot of what Jesus was teaching just didn't make sense to them. So Luke 17:35 makes sense. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31. Point 2,Jesus taught this in Matt.24:Matt.24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, SO ALSO WILL THE COMING of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Verse 40,this is the rapture. They're taken (away),not killed. This prophecy was not fulfilled in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed the temple. So,here's another scriptural contradiction,Rev.6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky [i]receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, ]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” See that? These people ARE aware that God's judgment is upon them,and they're terrified! And this is just the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus taught He would return just BEFORE the judgment comes, and this has to be PRE Trib. It's absurd to believe that people will be eating and drinking (eating and drinking what? With all the famines,plagues, earthquakes,1/3 of all the green grass burned away,1/3 of the ocean dies,even if there is food in certain areas,1/3 pf all the ships destroyed.And this in just one of the trumpet judgments!) making plans to get married,and see their children grow up and marry?! Just how reasonable is it to believe that people will be living their lives,business as usual,and making plans for their future,when literally billions are dying?! Matt.25:“ is post text to what Jesus had just taught. So the parables are about how we are to apply what we know when we begin to see "ALL these things" coming together. 1.At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP. At WHAT time?! The time just before the rapture! You really believe the church will fall asleep during the tribulation? In Rev.13,the Antichrist is killing Christian all over the world. But the church falls asleep!!!? These saints are not the church. In part,they are the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel. And didn't Jesus promise the gates of hell will never prevail against the church. He didn't say up until the tribulation,then the Antichrist will destroy the church.And when John prophesy's this in Rev.13, he doesn't say persecute the saints, he writes conquers or destroys. That's different.
Yes! it's true that the WORD Rapture isn't in the Bible. However in 1 Thessalonians chapter vs 13-18 it speaks of the catching away which in the greek is pronounced harpodzo when translated to english is pronounced Rapture.
@@mikepiccolo32 So, denying the theology of the rapture simply because the word is not present would be like denying the "trinity" simply because that word is not used. The teaching is there and the word used is a helpful handle.
@@DonaldFry-es7tz At Matthew 24:29,30 there it describes Jesus as coming on the clouds with great glory after the tribulation not prior as many believe will be there escape of the coming destruction of the wicked.How can this be? Jesus was sent by God to give us Gods message of salvation he is not God.Who was Jesus God?John 17:3
User, 'rapture' haies from Jerome's 4th Century Latin coinage for the Greek 'harpazo', our English 'caught up,' rendered as 'rapiemur' in I Thess. 4:17. Derived from the root word 'rapio', Jerome used other derivations in his translation, such as 'raptus' and 'raptum', The Lord willing, shall do a deep dive on the variations of usage in the N.T. Terry, TL Farley Books
Thank you so much! I left behind dispensational theology along time ago. This is a great, easy way to break it down and I hope that people listen and look things up themselves and understand that there’s not a biblical support for the idea! Thank you thank you, thank you!
Its NOT in revelation? LETS SEE.. Revelation 7: 9-16 " After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.” 11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!” 13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes-who are they, and where did they come from?” 14 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have COME OUT of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore, “they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple; and he who sits on the throne will shelter them with his presence. 16 ‘Never again will they hunger; never again will they thirst. The sun will not beat down on them,’[a] nor any scorching heat. " Revelation 14 "Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless." Theres more but they are easy to assume that its referring to those who already are in heaven and been there for time.
@@MjandDilly23 Thank you, i definitely do, we all do. None of us even have the faith the size of a mustard seed or we would be able to tell mountains to move and they would move. But i would ask, as a brother in Christ, to challenge my view instead of just walking away. Because if you believe you’re truly right, then tell me and try to convince me, the same way i’m trying to do to you.
Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36 And what about Rev 5, before the opening of the FIRST seal.... Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; (Did you see?? "Redeemed us to GOD" from every nation, kindred and tongue?) 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. The 24 elders are in heaven with Jesus, before the opening of the seals. Who is the 24 elders? In verse 9 we read: "for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" Who is redeemed from every tongue, people and nation? Anyway.... the great tribulation is actually just for Israel for rejecting Jesus the first time. The scripture makes that clear as day.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Are you not still a Christian. Christians start out as baby Christins, but they should grow as they read and study the Word. The Spirit of God is the real teacher. We can learn from good Bible teachers, but we should diligently check the scriptures to be sure they are correct.
The Rapture is a Zionist conspiracy using Christianity to install the Jewish Messiah in the rebuilt Temple. This Jewish Messiah will then smite "pagan" Christianity from the planet. The fact that the Messiah has already been tells us exactly who the Jewish Messiah is.
Still so much to unpack beyond this. Only a part of one piece. Revelations has to be read in context and a couple of verses elsewhere assume the *modern* ideas of inerrancy and literalism, more are not early or otherwise historic ideas. Allegory and parables are also lost on people out of context. He even gives it in this video.. though it still is doing all of the above- so much more learning and unpacking to do. Even Jews see the OT differently and some are still trying to learn the intent to be consistent. Even beyond that, it’s important to understand that allegories in the Old Testament are not what we think. Even extreme groups about the rapture don’t see most of the verses that are used as talking about it. Only see 1 Thessalonians he cited as supporting it. I’m sure people vary because the ones who were most intense about it before the last 7-8 years or so focused so much on staying in each book of the Torah for a year or two at a time and talking about it literally or whatever they came up with outside of Jewish understanding of underling meanings. Good times. Even Left Behind books- the author prefaces in first pages that it’s a work of fiction and isn’t necessarily supporting anything in the Bible. This is still incredibly literal, out of context. Revelations is about Roman Empires persecution and the Jews and early Christians, and Paul or whomever wrote Thessalonians and others has a range of conflicting ideas, including thinking Jesus was coming back soon, at least when taking consistently literal. It’s important to not just believe what people tell you that you should or must believe.
HE THAT HATH AN EAR. Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it. Revelation 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Revelation 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Revelation 3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. Revelation 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. 7 IN ALL. AND AFTER THAT WE ONLY HEAR: Revelation 13:9 If "any man" have an ear, let him hear. Why not say likewise to the church? Because it is not here!
Irrelevant. Its lack of being mentioned does not mean it is not there. The Church is Israel and Gentile believers (see Romans 11:18-24 and Ephesians 2:11-22).
@@bobrolls3800 Your comment is Irrelevant. What Christ say to Peter? Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT Can God lie? No He cannot! You haven't studied enough under The Holy Spirit to make such a claim. You do not explain the Scriptures you use.... One Scripture DOES NOT MAKE A DOCTRINE. So back to Matthew 16:18 and compare to Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. and even more so: Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn MADE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, and PREVAILED AGAINST THEM. And Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. All The Martyrs are in Heaven, and the 144,000 Jews are sealed before the 7 trumpets begin. Revelation Chapter 7. I can write all about what Transpires in Revelation, but a man unconvinced Against his will... is unconvinced still. Here is easy Proof if you are able to make the connection: Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. Notice Day is SINGULAR not as in days. when is that Day????? and where do we see it in Revelation?????? Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and "hast redeemed" us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; Redeemed is PAST TENSE so the Day of the churches Redemption is Past which means after Chapter 3 of Revelation the Church was Raptured and the BEMA SEAT of Christ is past... The crowns the 24 elders wear are NOT DIADEMS and Diadems are Kings crowns, the elders wear Stephanos Crowns which are rewards crowns of which there are 5 different ones. Are you getting it yet? Have a nice day!
What's also interesting is in In the Bible, Matthew 5:5 states, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth". Which means Earth will always be our home.
I recall a sermon from years ago from a pastor who said something similar. He said Christians would be here for the tribulations and that God doesn't necessarily remove his people, he protects them in the midst of trials and tribulations. He was saying that some Christians had abandoned the work of spreading the gospel to save others thinking they would be removed but that wasn't the case. I wish I could remember his name.
Read up about John Nelson Darby in the late 1800's and how our notions about end times eschatology started with him. For most of the 2000 years of church history -the church AT LARGE has never believed in a Rapture or a Tribulation, that is until Darby introduced the notion and Scofield ratified it in commentary form at the bottom of the bible page. The western church has been reading into the bible the ideas from these men and not interpreting scripture from other scripture. For me, Dispensationalism has been "Left Behind."
@@hoelenchilada So you know for a fact that not one Christian believed what the Thessalonians believed centuries after that book was written? Wow that's a lot of foreknowledge.
Matthew 12:: 40. Belly of a whale. Matthew ch 24 is not a rapture reference, as you state, so as someone who believes in the pre tribulation, your argument is irrelevant. The tribulation is God's wrath poured out upon the World and we are not subject to God's wrath. Anyone who believes that Christians will go through the tribulation should listen to Dr Andy Woods, Robert Breaker, Yankee Arnold, Charles Lawson and Gene Kim. This fellow seems like a sincere person but he is wrong.
As one who has studied the Greek NT for 35 years now, I thank you for this video. There's a few items we differ on, but basically calling 'skubelon' on the rapture is something we can agree on. All-too-often the rapture theory culminates in the Jewish temple being rebuilt and animal sacrifices being reinstated. This resumption of animal sacrifices goes against quite a bit of the book of Hebrews (among other places, including Jesus' words) AND, more importantly it minimises the sacrifice of Jesus, Himself. In other words, the Cross wasn't all that and a bag of chips. It will take resumption of the 'blood of bulls and goats' -- and is something most adherents to the rapture theory haven't thought through. So, again, thanks! I don't have to teach this again and again. I can simply direct folks here!
My man, the "rapture" is the resurrection of the dead in Christ no matter if you think its pre. mid or post trib. Its all the rapture/Reassertion of the Saints in Christ. Anytime someone starts telling you there is no "rapture" in the Bible you can stop listening because they are speaking absolute foolishness and illustrating they should not be discussing the topic. A serious and studied Bible student/teacher will ALWAYS say I don't believe in a pre or mid or post trib rapture. They will NEVER......NEVER say "There is no rapture" That is embarrassingly foolish. They deny their own resurrection.
@r.f.pennington746 And I've been for over 40 years now. This teacher claims dispensationalist won't teach out of Matt.24,or Luke 17,21. Thats not true,not at all. Jack Van Impe and Chuck Missler did. Many others have.Should I give him the benefit of the doubt that he's unaware, because it seems he's purposely trying to mislead people? Here's my teaching,as I studied under these guys,for decades,and others,and I am a Premillenial Dispensationalist. I've also been trained in Greek and Hebrew exegesis,and biblical hermeneutics. In Luke 17, 35,36,"One is taken (not killed). In the original Greek, from para lambano, to receive from,. The other left,from apo hiemi, left alone,sent away. Also not necessarily killed. One is received,or taken,one is left behind. In verse 37, the word "vulture" is mistranslated in the original manuscript.The Greek word is aeotos,which is clearly "eagles" ,not vultures. This verse is still a mystery,what does it mean? Because Eagles do not gather around dead bodies,eagles eat live prey. And the people of Jesus day,which was an agrarian society,knew this. It was purposely mistranslated because apparently the translators knew that only vultures gather around dead bodies. But it's there in Luke 17amd Matt.24,purposely written down as Eagles,not vultures. But here's the thing he missed.Luke 17:37,The apostles ask "WHERE" when Jesus says they were taken,or received(unto someone). WHERE were they taken? Jesus doesn't answer that. But those who say taken means killed,they're wrong. The apostles wouldn't ask 'where"if they understood it was killed. Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night". Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. So now,be the first Post Trib believer in over three decades of my experience debating the rapture, to answer this question,and the other points I'll bring. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch? In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,returns to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know this prophecy? Well the Pharisees surely did. So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? Why should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,please tell me? Now Luke 17:35 makes sense,get it. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31. But there it is,Jesus quoted Daniel 12,and 1335 days after the "abomination of desolation, Jesus will return. Why watch for it? How can He come when nobody knows? Point 2,Jesus taught this in Matt.24:Matt.24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, SO ALSO WILL THE COMING of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Verse 40,this is the rapture. They're taken (away),not killed. This prophecy was not fulfilled in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed the temple. So,here's another scriptural contradiction,Rev.6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky [i]receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, ]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” See that? These people ARE aware that God's judgment is upon them,and they're terrified! And this is just the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus taught He would return just BEFORE the judgment comes, and this has to be PRE Trib. It's absurd to believe that people will be eating and drinking (eating and drinking what? With all the famines,plagues, earthquakes,1/3 of all the green grass burned away,1/3 of the ocean dies,even if there is food in certain areas,1/3 pf all the ships destroyed.And this in just one of the trumpet judgments!) making plans to get married,and see their children grow up and marry?! People living their lives,business as usual,during the tribulation? No way! One last thing.The Rapture is NOT Jesus returning to set up His kingdom. That does happen at the end of the tribulation period,ok? The rapture is US,the Church, being taken away into the cloud to be with Jesus. And then,the wedding feast of the lamb will begin,while the tribulation begins on Earth.And,further confirmation of this is in Matt.25,the parable of the bridesmaids. Remember,the ones who ran out of oil were left out of the wedding feast? Here's the last thing, in post trib,what event signifies the tribulation has begun? Give me an answer. In pretrib,it's the rapture that begins the tribulation period. And the rapture itself,IS a judgment being pronounced upon the world. Did the apostles know what the church was when Jesus taught "Upon this rock I shall build my church,and the gate of hell shall never prevail against it"? No! They didn't know what the church was. That word ecclesia meant "called out ones". Who was that? Did they know the church would be mostly gentiles,under a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant? No. Not for decades. Only Paul had the "mystery"of the church and the rapture revealed to him.Thirty plus years later. Only the writer of Hebrews knew there was going to be a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant. Because the new covenant was for gentiles,the church. So,in the Olivet discourse,in three of the gospels, when Jesus taught about His returning,they,and everyone listening to Jesus,who knew the prophets, had no clue about the rapture.Because they didn't have a clue about what the church was! They only knew the Day Of the Lord,which comes at the end of the tribulation. Everyone who followed Jesus was looking for the Messiah to come and set up His kingdom reign. Now look up Revelation 13,5-8. There's another contradiction,one that breaks the promise Jesus made about the church. The Antichrist is given power and authority to conquer,or destroy,the "saints". Did Jesus teach "the gates of hell shall never prevail ...oh,but only until the Antichrist is revealed. No,he made a promise. These 'saints",or holy people in the Greek,are not the church. And in part,must be the 144 thousand from the 12 tribes of Israel. Now the post text of Matt.24 is Matt.25. Matt.25:“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP. At What time?! The time just before the rapture! How can this be at the end of tribulation? The church is going to "fall asleep"? In Rev.6,at the sixth seal,the world knows their under God's judgment. So how can the churches not know?
Wow! 35 years of Greek and missed the Bible. Also totally missed what people who follow prophecy are actually saying. Sad for you. BTW, you might want to read my post explaining why this guy totally missed the mark.
@@lufknuht5960 Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night". Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. So now,if you believe in Post trib,be the first Post Trib believer in over three decades of my experience debating the rapture, to answer this question,and the other points I'bring. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch? In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,returns to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know this prophecy? Well the Pharisees surely did. So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? Why should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,please tell me? Now Luke 17:35 makes sense,get it. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31. But there it is,Jesus quoted Daniel 12,and 1335 days after the "abomination of desolation, Jesus will return. Why watch for it? How can He come when nobody knows? Point 2,Jesus taught this in Matt.24:Matt.24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, SO ALSO WILL THE COMING of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Verse 40,this is the rapture. They're taken (away),not killed. This prophecy was not fulfilled in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed the temple. So,here's another scriptural contradiction,Rev.6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky [i]receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, ]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” See that? These people ARE aware that God's judgment is upon them,and they're terrified! And this is just the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus taught He would return just BEFORE the judgment comes, and this has to be PRE Trib. It's absurd to believe that people will be eating and drinking (eating and drinking what? With all the famines,plagues, earthquakes,1/3 of all the green grass burned away,1/3 of the ocean dies,even if there is food in certain areas,1/3 pf all the ships destroyed.And this in just one of the trumpet judgments!) making plans to get married,and see their children grow up and marry?! People living their lives,business as usual,during the tribulation? No way! One last thing.The Rapture is NOT Jesus returning to set up His kingdom. That does happen at the end of the tribulation period,ok? The rapture is US,the Church, being taken away into the cloud to be with Jesus. And then,the wedding feast of the lamb will begin,while the tribulation begins on Earth.And,further confirmation of this is in Matt.25,the parable of the bridesmaids. Remember,the ones who ran out of oil were left out of the wedding feast? Here's another problem, in post trib,what event signifies the tribulation has begun? Give me an answer. In pretrib,it's the rapture that begins the tribulation period. And the rapture itself,IS a judgment being pronounced upon the world. Did the apostles know what the church was when Jesus taught "Upon this rock I shall build my church,and the gate of hell shall never prevail against it"? No! They didn't know what the church was. That word ecclesia meant "called out ones". Who was that? Did they know the church would be mostly gentiles,under a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant? No. Not for decades. Only Paul had the "mystery"of the church and the rapture revealed to him.Thirty plus years later. Only the writer of Hebrews knew there was going to be a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant. Because the new covenant was for gentiles,the church. So,in the Olivet discourse,in three of the gospels, when Jesus taught about His returning,they,and everyone listening to Jesus,who knew the prophets, had no clue about the rapture.Because they didn't have a clue about what the church was! They only knew the Day Of the Lord,which comes at the end of the tribulation. Everyone who followed Jesus was looking for the Messiah to come and set up His kingdom reign. Now look up Revelation 13,5-8. There's another contradiction,one that breaks the promise Jesus made about the church. The Antichrist is given power and authority to conquer,or destroy,the "saints". Did Jesus teach "the gates of hell shall never prevail ...oh,but only until the Antichrist is revealed. No,he made a promise. These 'saints",or holy people in the Greek,are not the church. And in part,must be the 144 thousand from the 12 tribes of Israel.
QUESTION. Rev 19 : 6,7,8, says the Bride aka the church is in heaven preparing to return with Christ for the millennial reign the second coming, if no rapture how and when did the Bride get to heaven? Asking for a friend
Margaret McDonald invented the Rapture in 1835 and two priests were standing next to and wrote it down and said hey we could use this. David McPherson wrote couple of books on it you could Google search him and check it out. God bless you
From what I understand, if you Don't believe in the rapture. God will oblige and you won't get rapture. God won't force on you what you don't believe. It takes faith to believe in God, it takes faith to believe in the rapture.
You are wrong the word harpazo that is Latin for being caught up being taken away that's what that's what Rapture means the Raptor is found in the Bible it's also in 1st Thessalonians 4:16 and 417 it's very obvious you don't know the word of God you're not born again you're not born again at all and you're going to end up eternally damned in hell because you're not saved you're not born again and you're denying scripture Letterman be a liar Jesus Christ is the truth you do not know scripture and you don't know God's word that's blatantly obvious by your stupidity no you're not born again brother you need to get born again you're denying scripture because the Rapture has always been there it's in the Latin translation and it's in 1st Thessalonians 4:16 and 417 get to know the Bible better
Yes, before an ex-Anglican Priest named John Nelson Darby came on the scene in the 1830's, a total of ZERO churches held these verses to mean anything other than the resurrection.
@@benstr8156 the word AIR in Greek #109 it means Breath of Life or spiritual body it's not atmosphere ! Nobody flies in the air. The word clouds in 1st Thessalonians 4:17 means a group of Christians gathered together you can read it in Hebrews 12:1. Paul spoke colloquial Greek and when the Bible was translated into English there are up to four different meanings of each word so it's good to have a original doctor Strong's Concordance to look up each word in the bible. God condemns the Rapture Theory and Ezekiel 13 verses 18 through 21 in the KJV Bible he hates it when fake teachers hunt souls to make people fly. If you read those same verses in the new King James version or the NIV Satan's Children from Matthew 13 388 and 39 have changed the Bibles it doesn't even talk of hunting souls to make people fly it talks of birds flying in charms because that's what Satan's message is going to be when he comes in the clouds on a white horse in Revelation 6:2 Don't be deceived because the real Jesus Christ comes in Revelation 19:11 on a white horse we have to wait for the Lord which is what Psalms 130 talks about in Matthew 24 where there are two working in the field and one is taken that one taken is the antichrist. God bless
I'm a Christian and I hate the movie Left Behind for this very reason. I have a church friend who believes in Pre-Trib because of those books. I'm sharing this video on Facebook, thanks, Skye! :)
Most solid Christians are pre trib..This teacher one of the best..ruclips.net/video/-lVcN9vsCbQ/видео.htmlsi=qQ29i1fV6_I-bYe- The Rapture - Chuck Missler - Session 1 wmforce 87.7K subscribers
Too bad you didn't have a brain because Nothing fits with the Covenant of Grace the church being in the tribulation or the promises we have like Nothing fits at all nothing makes sense at all when you actually use your brain and think everything out with a post-trib Nothing fits but if you do it our way everything fits in harmony the sad part is you have to break everything down like teaching little babies because they can't see clearly and it's a lot of work majority are too prideful to even accept the clear truth when you display it
"Putting too much authority into our traditions and assumptions"... boy, if that isnt the most succinct and telling definition Ive ever heard for what it means to be a Churchian. Great video, by the way, and very informative. Sadly, its all moot, since Jesus has already returned three times and Churchianity missed them all.
We also can't be here for Rev 9. Rev 7 has the signing on the foreheads of the 144000. In Rev 9, they are the only ones who are not hurt. The rest are hurt by what comes out of the ground. WE are sealed in our hearts. Ephesians. There is a rapture. 1 Thess 1 vs 10 also says we are not appointed to wrath.
@@shawnalLovesJesus the rapture is part of the second coming. Your understanding of wrath isn't being applied correctly biblically in time and context. The Tribulation isn't God's wrath.
@glennlaporte4545 Yeah but he stills believes that there will be women GRINDING AT THE MILL when Christ returns ? In our modern world ? Is this a joke ? There is nothing older than this female activity. Women used to grind the grain and turn it into floor. They would also make the bread for their whole family. It is crystal clear that Jesus was referring to a CURRENT activity that cannot point to our modern era . So , why did he says that they would be women doing this when he comes ? What does this mean ? Did not the Jews know what he meant ? They surely knew way better than us . Same thing for Jesus washing the feet of his disciples and this old custom that modern heretics try to force on husbands from pulpits . We western people are such idiots. We talk about things that we don't know.
I'm not trying to be snarky, but you obviously didn't read the end of the Book of Revelation, where we return with Christ. It has nothing to do with the siege of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.
@@jonathanblack5597 Honestly I can barely believe that is your support for the rapture doctrine. The simple observation that Christ returns with "holy ones." There are numerous explanations as to what this could mean and who precisely such "holy ones" could be... but based on your condescension I'd wager you believe yours is the only valid outlook.
Well presented! Will people go search the Bible for the truth? Probably not, but you have planted that seed of truth in their minds for the Holy Spirit to water and grow.
This man in the video is a liberal, if he denies the rapture He is denying God's word. 1 Thes 4:13-18 is very clear and Paul goes on to explain the timing in chapter 5. The Day of the Lord / Tribulation will not overtake us since we are not appointed to wrath.
@@Pastor_Grantyou are the one that has a problem. You have a veil over your eyes right now and are not seeing clearly. He explained this easily for you to look up and understand. You just want to be right more than you want the truth and that’s what you care about more. You are also scared instead of having faith in the Lord. Seek help
@@MjandDilly23 personal insults are a lousy refutation Paul and 1st Thessalonians 4 says the saints will be caught up the next few verses. He says concerning the time you know it happened suddenly like a thief in the night and the day of the Lord. The tribulation will not overtake you because you are not appointed to wrath.
@@MjandDilly23 Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36 and in Rev 5:8-10 we read that the 24 elders, redeemed from the earth from every tongue, kindred and nation to God, is in heaven before opening of the FIRST seal. If there is no rapture.... how did they get there and why would Jesus say watch and pray that you may escape all these things. Also if Jesus says He will come like a thieve in the night, then it must be a rapture He is referring to, cause we know exactly when the second coming will be.... 1260 days after the abomination of desolation.
Wondering if you'd let your bride wait seven horrifying years or would you come and receive her to yourself beforehand so she can be with you as you promised? 🤔
I'm not a proponent of the rapture... it seems like hogwash to me.. but what would you tell Christians in the middle east who are literally skinned alive to this day? Surely they are enduring a great tribulation regardless of whether or not it is depicted in the Bible.
Bride, You must be tested. Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter., Only Martyrs and those tested to the point of death will Rule and Reign with Christ for 1000 years. He did not spare his son so you aren't worthy unless tested.
There is no 7 year tribulation either, the 70 weeks of Daniel are over, no gap between the 69th & 70th weeks to give you 7 years in the future. The 70th week was Messiah's ministry that was interrupted in the middle by His Crucifixion that ended the validity of the Temple sacrifices. Although the temple sacrifices were continued after Jesus' perfect sacrifice, by the unbelieving Jews, they were an abomination that brought the desolation of the temple & city in 70 ad. The last 7 years were Messiah's ministry ending with the martyrdom of Stephen. The 7 year tribulation is a false doctrine.
Great to hear simple, clear, Biblical teaching on a subject that has sidetracked too many believers, and contributes to the message about Jesus sounding unbelievable. Thank you.
We also can't be here for Rev 9. Rev 7 has the signing on the foreheads of the 144000. In Rev 9, they are the only ones who are not hurt. The rest are hurt by what comes out of the ground. WE are sealed in our hearts. Ephesians. There is a rapture. 1 Thess 1 vs 10 also says we are not appointed to wrath.
The comparison to the flood is spurious. What Jesus talks about clearly sounds supernatural. Not like some natural catastrophe. It happens in an instant!
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"CAUGHT UP"...... Means ???..... "In The Air" Means ???...... > The Greek word from this term “rapture” is derived appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17, translated “caught up.” The Latin translation of this verse used the word rapturo. The Greek word it translates is harpazo, which means to snatch or take away.
Nothing in the passage indicates we go to heaven, though.
Harpazo is not in the bible harpagesometha is. Harpa gesometha at the time of the sickle to the earth. When does the sickle get put to the earth... Go search
@@Bruce_PetersEnoch & Elijah were "Raptured" or caught up
Not so fast, sir. Paul himself said, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together, to meet the LORD in the air, and so shall we ever be with the LORD. Comfort ye one another with these words.
@@MistaSCARY Not to heaven where God's throne is. Elijah was caught up to the sky that's all we know. Enoch died later. Heb 11.
1Th 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
Did you even watch the video? He explained that whole passage in it. We will be with Christ as He reigns on earth.
@@laurentroland6847 Indeed, it actually refutes the pretrib-rapture fraud.
@@laurentroland6847 Yes but with our glorified bodies we'll be caught up in the air and then in heaven to save us from Antichrist's reigm when the Holy Spirit will also be taken from the Earth with us.Then... and all saint's come back with Jesus to destroy Antichrist and to burn the whole earth with fire.Then...holy new Jerusalem comes down from heaven and Jesus reigns in his holy city with all saints and holy angels for 1000 years.
@@laurentroland6847" not appointed to wrath, the Lord saith..."
"I will destroy the earth with fire..."
HARPAZO IN GREEK.
The word Air... in Greek is word number 109 it means Breath of Life or spiritual body which is what we turn into at the 7th Trump Revelation 1911 described in 1 Corinthians 15 verses 51 and 52
God condemns the Rapture theory in Ezekiel 13:18 through 21 I don't know why people would want to be raptured out of here anyway when the whole goal of being a Christian is to stand against the Antichrist described in Mark 13 Matthew 24 and Luke 21. God bless
'I will never leave you nor forsake you.' - Truth.
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UNDERSTANDING THE TWO PHASES OF HIS SECOND COMING: 1. Rapture Passages: John 14:1-3 Heb 9:28 Rom 8:19 Jas 5:7-9 1 Cor 1:7-8 1 Pet 1:7, 13
1 Cor15:51-53 1 Pet 5:4
1 Cor 16:22 1 John 2:28-3:2 Phil 3:20-21 Jude 21
Col 3:4 Rev 2:25 1 Thess 1:10 Rev 3:10 1 Thess 2:19
1 Thess 5:23
2 Thess 2:1
1 Tim 6:14
2 Tim 4:1
2 Tim 4:8
Titus 2:13
============================================ // 2. Second Coming Passages:
// Dan 2:44-45 1 Pet 4:12-13
// Dan 7:9-14 2 Pet 3:1-14 // Dan 12:1-3 Jude 14-15 // Zech 12:10 Rev 1:7 // Zech 14:1-15 Rev 19:11-20:6 // Matt 13:41 Rev 22:7,12,20 // Matt 24:15-31 // Matt 26:64 // Mark 13:14-27 // Mark 14:62
// Luke 21:25-28
// Acts 1:9-11 // Acts 3:19-21 // 1 Thess 3:13 // 2 Thess 2:8
@@mrpush2532: "GOD’S WAY HAS BEEN TO RESCUE THE RIGHTEOUS. It is interesting that the Lord uses Noah and Lot in referring to His Return. Matthew 24:37-39 “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.”
Luke 17:28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.”
The Holy Spirit who is the author of scripture did this intentionally. While these verses describe the conditions at the coming of the Lord, these verses describe two individuals who were rescued from the wrath of God. God warned Noah and he and his family escaped the universal flood in Ark. God sent angels to Sodom and Lot escaped the fire that was rained down from heaven. These scriptures allude to that. It says. Noah entered the ark. It says Lot left Sodom. I can assure that Christ will return for the church and take us out of here just as he promised.
We have to understand the coming of the Lord is in two phases. Paul writes to Titus of these to phases in Titus 2:13 “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”
The first phase is the blessed hope. This is the rapture of the church. Jesus will return to the clouds and will snatch away the church. It is a blessed hope because we will escape the wrath to come in the Tribulation.
And then, the second phase is His glorious appearing. Jesus will return all the way to earth and will set up a kingdom that will last for 1000 years on this Earth."
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"GOD’S WAY HAS BEEN TO RESCUE THE RIGHTEOUS. It is interesting that the Lord uses Noah and Lot in referring to His Return. Matthew 24:37-39 “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.”
Luke 17:28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.”
The Holy Spirit who is the author of scripture did this intentionally. While these verses describe the conditions at the coming of the Lord, these verses describe two individuals who were rescued from the wrath of God. God warned Noah and he and his family escaped the universal flood in Ark. God sent angels to Sodom and Lot escaped the fire that was rained down from heaven. These scriptures allude to that. It says. Noah entered the ark. It says Lot left Sodom. I can assure that Christ will return for the church and take us out of here just as he promised.
We have to understand the coming of the Lord is in two phases. Paul writes to Titus of these to phases in Titus 2:13 “looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,”
The first phase is the blessed hope. This is the rapture of the church. Jesus will return to the clouds and will snatch away the church. It is a blessed hope because we will escape the wrath to come in the Tribulation.
And then, the second phase is His glorious appearing. Jesus will return all the way to earth and will set up a kingdom that will last for 1000 years on this Earth."
Rev 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
but it did not say explicitly that they will be hidden in heaven.. it says that God will keep them from the hour of trial.. there are countless stories in the Bible that during great tribulations that believers were kept by God.. the story of Israel and Egypt, where the Israelites was kept protected in Goshen till the 10 plagues was done. or Elijah the prophet was kept hidden and protected by God during the 3 years drought.
Very western teachings, outside of the western world Christians continue to suffer and be prosecuted.
Have you ever considered that the trial that is being referred to here is the trial on the earth dwellers (unbelievers), which is the wrath of God that begins after the 6th seal at the Day of the Lord. I believe the resurrection occurs at the 6th seal when the cosmic signs appear in the heavens at Christ's revelation. This trial that comes on the whole world, are for those that dwell on the earth (the earth dwellers) not on the believing saints. The Bible does say that we are not appointed to God's wrath that is poured out on the earth dwellers. The great tribulation that Jesus speaks about is not God's wrath but is Satan's persecution of the saints (believers and ethnic Israel) through the Beast and the false prophet.
@@katherineconley2089 It says those on earth, everyone, saints, and those that are unbelievers. The movies and books written about this are wrong. If believers are caught up and the unbelievers are left then there will not be anyone to witness to them. There are no verses saying this. Jesus is coming once and all shall see Him. That is what the scriptures say.
@@zionEEEEE944E Really? I notice no scripture you give to support your "theory" and not sound doctrine at that.
Isa 26:19
Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
Isa 26:20
¶ Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. ( The Tribulation )
Isa 26:21
For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
John 14:3 in Other Translations3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
That will be at the end of this age. Or maybe at the end of the milenium
That place is in Israel Jesus is returning to earth for 1,000 years
That is during the millennium,or possibly later.Isnt relevent to the discussion
Right on!!! Keep showing what GODS word Says!
You need FAITH to be in this number, not the mockery of demons they always mocked at Gods servants, even mocked at Jesus CONSTANTLY. It's like they have DNA that makes them do this!
context
The scripture is talking those NOT ASLEEP and are watching. (WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR?, and why are you mocking it!)
1 Thessalonians 4;16
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;"
17 "then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the
Lord."
1 Corinthians 15:52
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
John 14:3 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
Revelatioins 3:10-11
10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Yes, but the whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"!
Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right?
Skye's hair was raptured long ago, but I'm glad he was left behind to share this with us.
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He something right but some wrong. All of us mistakes but we should Act knowledge we understand, when we do so, and correct them.
Revelation 3:10
“Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.”
Was wondering why he didn’t mention this verse
John 14:3 in Other Translations
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
Thank you
So dude doesn't believe in the second coming of christ rev 3 10
Word ‘Keep’ does not mean rapture or taken away. It is more in dealing with a divine protection or placed in a secured location of covering. It is also in knowing the truth of Elohim. It does not mean ‘raptured, or ‘taken out of the way.’ One of the prophecies that comes to mind and thought in my heart is a location in the wilderness were Elohim feeds and covers His people in protection will every one else goes through trail of judgment. I do not read His people being taken or raptured into Heaven. Elohim has the ability to protect His people from the trails of His judgment where ever they are or will be. He has done so in the biblical past and He will do it according to His Word in the future events according to the Word given.
Looking for the blessed Hope, and the appearing of our Great God and Savior Jesus Christ
The blessed hope is not a pre-trib rapture. It is the hope of salvation from the judgment of hell and the godlessness of the world. Read the context of Titus 2
Not a salvation issue. The LORD doesn't want us to have a spirit of fear. We need to stay strong in Jesus Christ.
Correct! As long as we believe Jesus is the son and God sent him as a sacrifice for our sins, we can differ on the other stuff. Rapture/no rapture doesn’t decide if I go to heaven.
@@MyTexasLife Well You have that Backwards. The only ones that are Raptured are Saved. They are Written in The Book of Life. No one can come to Christ until They are drawn by The Father in Heaven.
@@bruce8961 I don’t have anything backwards. I agreed with the original poster that believing or not in a rapture taking place doesn’t determine one’s salvation.
My mother often used the phrase, “the honest in heart”, which I understood as a reference to her belief that God wants to save everyone but that he can’t save people who are intellectually dishonest.
In that sense, at least, one might say that eschatology isn’t “a salvation issue”.
On the other hand, the entire dispensationalist/futurist method of Bible interpretation (which was the basis of the pretribulation rapture doctrine in the nineteenth century) robbed people of several things.
1: People who are taught that the rapture will be followed by a seven-year tribulation are robbed of the evidence that Jesus life and ministry on Earth two thousand years ago fulfilled the seventy weeks prophecy of Daniel 9 - including the seventieth week.
2: It’s true that the catching up mentioned in I Thessalonians 4 could happen anytime but many people are being robbed of the warnings about false messiahs and false prophets because they’re convinced those warnings don’t apply to the time before the catching up.
3: It is true that many people have read books or watched movies about the “rapture” but it has been my experience that people who have done that place more confidence in futurist expositors than in what Jesus said or what Paul wrote on the subject of future events.
In the 1970s, for example, my wife and I attended the funeral of a young man who had died as a result of injuries sustained when he fell off a bridge he was helping to repair. The protestant minister knew most of the young man’s family were adherents of the Roman Church so he asked their priest to have some small part in the funeral at a protestant church building and to conduct the graveside service.
At the graveside, the priest said he hadn’t known the young man personally but, from what he had been told about him, he expected to meet him in the resurrection.
While we were going back to our cars after the graveside service, one of the protestants was overheard saying, “Resurrection?! Resurrection?! What kind of comfort is that - resurrection?!”
Think about it. If the purpose of the “rapture” is to take living believers to heaven, why would the Lord resurrect people who are already in heaven so he can take them to heaven?
Jesus said, In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. John 14:2 & 3
One futurist teacher of an adult Sunday school class misrepresented Jesus as saying, “I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where you are, there I may be also.” - the opposite of what Jesus said.
“Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
3/4 of the stars will fall .. hollywood stars ore . planet .. lol joy
I know for a fact, i am not rapture ready.
Please tell everyone, get rapture ready while HIS Mercy can still be found.
@@analyticalhabitrails9857Then get ready. Fall on your knees and lay prostrate!! Cry out to Jesus, and repent for all of your Sins!!! ❤❤❤❤This Man is a liar, Jesus will rapture those who are filled with his Holy Ghost, water/fire baptized, He is waiting with open arms.!! Tell Jesus that you want to know Him more and learn.
The stars that fall from the sky are the fallen angels falling from heaven 🎉
@@analyticalhabitrails9857 did Jesus and/or the apostels preach us to be "rapture-ready"?
In my fathers house, there are many rooms I go to prepare a place for you and if I go, I will come again and take you to myself that where I am there you will be also. To take something thing is to remove it from its current place and bring it to you. Where he is there we will be also. When
Where is Jesus? In heaven of course. There we will be also.
That's John not Paul!
Exactly! Rapture deniers fail to connect John 14:1-3 with 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. The Rapture is Not about the Coming (Parousia) of a conqueror but the coming of the Bridegroom for His Bride (Matthew 25:1-13), the Elect.
@@fohponomalama5065 How blind can you be? The parousia is not a technical word for only the Lords coming. The rapture is simply the resurrection of those who are alive when Jesus comes the 2nd time. Talk about failures!
Since the beginning of Christianity Christians have confessed their belief that Jesus will come again. It's in both the Apostles Creed and Nicene Creed, but until fairly recently the understanding has been that Jesus will return only once, not twice.
@@VeridicusMaximus Paul didn't have his own teachings, he only taught the same gospel Matthew, Mark, Luke and John taught. There's only 1 gospel of Christ and that's from Matthew to Revelation.
I grew up in the 70s with movies like A thief in the Night and A Distant Thunder, and songs like I Wish We'd All Been Ready. I tried to argue for the rapture with a newer pastor, but all I had was media. I read more of the Bible, as he challenged me, and eventually all of the Bible, and I found only support for the return of Jesus ending it all. The parable of the Weeds was a great example. This video was informative, confrontational, but not demeaning. Great job.
Harpazo is translated “caught up” or “caught away” the five times (out of. thirteen) it appears in the Bible relating to rapture. The other eight times it is translated, “to. forcibly seize upon, snatch away, take to oneself or use force on someone.” 3.
And so what? Doesn’t mean anything as far as the rapture goes.
@@MjandDilly23 That is the Rapture. Harpazo translated into Latin is Raptus and into English as 'Rapture.'
Exactly, this guy is a false teacher.
False teaching!!! Let no one deceive you!!! He is not proving the Bible with the Bible!!! He has completely omitted the Wedding Supper of the Lamb!!!
@@roypel3720 Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36
Rapture or no Rapture. Be ready for Christ. Walking with Jesus(while you are alive here on earth) is our FIRST priority.😅
Jesus takes care of his people regardless.🥰🥰
His people are only in His church, where A Cappella singing is commanded.
(EPHESIANS 5:19;
COLOSSIANS 3:16).
Jesus Christ is not the God of manmade doctrines, “He’s only the God of the New Testament church.” (ACTS 4:12)
God did not create denominations, and denominations are not going to heaven!
I agree with you... rapture...no rapture...pre trib...post trib...no trib..... whatever God has that in control don't worry about it.. Jesus is more concerned about the salvation of our souls...the minute you die its over for you
@@CarlHilbrand ,
Your fate is sealed when you die.
Nope. It is living by the 10 Commandments. Then Jesus. But I think you got it. I mean we are judged by our actions. And not thoughts. And walking with Jesus assumes living by the Commandments?
Ok…I read enough to know you have it ass backwards 🤡
Because thou has keep the word of my patience I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth Revelation 3:21
That’s not what “the rapture” is, and there’s more that we base it and even other end times ideas. Revelations has to be read in context and a couple of verses elsewhere assume the *modern* ideas of inerrancy and literalism, more are not early or otherwise historic ideas.
Allegory and parables are also lost on people out of context.
He even gives it in this video..
though it still is doing all of the above- so much more learning and unpacking to do. Even Jews see the OT differently and some are still trying to learn the intent to be consistent.
Even beyond that, it’s important to understand that allegories in the Old Testament are not what we think.
Even extreme groups about the rapture don’t see most of the verses that are used as talking about it. Only see 1 Thessalonians he cited as supporting it. I’m sure people vary because the ones who were most intense about it before the last 7-8 years or so focused so much on staying in each book of the Torah for a year or two at a time and talking about it literally or whatever they came up with outside of Jewish understanding of underling meanings.
Good times.
Even Left Behind books- the author prefaces in first pages that it’s a work of fiction and isn’t necessarily supporting anything in the Bible.
This is still incredibly literal, out of context. Revelations is about Roman Empires persecution and the Jews and early Christians, and Paul or whomever wrote Thessalonians and others has a range of conflicting ideas, including thinking Jesus was coming back soon, at least when taking consistently literal. It’s important to not just believe what people tell you that you should or must believe.
@TRUTHINCHRIST-cw8ke This guy missed the mark in many ways. All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5)
Sorry, this man needs to study more.
@TRUTHINCHRIST-cw8ke I think you know, but you disagree, so have at it & explain *WHY* this isn't speaking of the tribulation period, and *WHY* you think it doesn't point to the fact that the church will be kept from it.
In Revelation 3:10 just about every preacher that I hear teach this text as applying it to the entire world but it's not to be applied to the whole world.
Brother start using a Greek translation when it comes to studying the New Testament and all of the Bible the Old Testament in Hebrew
That word "World in the Greek is the word Oikoumene which means the inhabited land which is Jerusalem and the Roman Empire because Jerusalem was a province of Rome if it was referring to the entire world the Greek translation would have the word Kosmos which means the entire world.
The book of Revelation is about the Time of Jacob's troubles
( Jer.30:7 )
7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it.
God bless 🙌 🙏
@TRUTHINCHRIST-cw8ke
Regarding what scripture ?
People have already covered the Scripture for the rapture. To me, knowing God’s character, His love of the church, and how He rescues His people, it seems that the rapture is indicative and in alignment with Who He is. Also, Scripture backs it up as others have written here.
However, those of you who want to go through the tribulation, have at it. 😊
The important thing is to know Christ and be ready.
Tell that to the believers in North Korea and China and Pakistan and India and everywhere else they are heavily persecuted. 😢
@@JLa7257 Persecution is not the same as the great tribulation.
The *trauma* I experienced as a young child who loved Jesus, yet would still get scared that I had been left behind when I couldn’t find my parents! So much torment for a little girl.
Indeed, sadly I think it was a trick to try to make people scared to be left behind so that they would become Christians.
I went through that also when I was a child.
The Children will be raptured as well.
@@Cherryhill335 no such thing as a rapture
I believe the OP is stating that this falsehood created such fear for them that when they couldn't find their parents they thought they had been left behind, that they weren't part of the rapture
A sad story maybe but it has no bearing on whether or not the rapture is true.
Its ironic that hysteria over the "rapture" is what lead a huge chunk of my family to God. Someone showed my great grandma a movie called "thief in the night" and she basically converted my entire family 😅.
Converted in to what a robot or any other subject would be thoughtful to know.😅
That doesn't sound like Hysteria to me. If it brought some one to Christ Hallelueja
What a classic Christian movie! "A thief in the night". "A Distant Thunder", (the sequel) wasn't too bad either.
The producers of that movie have their reward in heaven!
It scared the hell out of me & many friends & family! Eventually, I came to know & love the Lord & not because of being scared of hell.
@HomeVideoStudioJacksonville please tell me that's a fucking joke?
I'm from Romania and no one heard about the "Left behind" books. We simply know that Jesus will return and take us, away from the Tribulation
Where do you think I'm from? By the way tribulation is a mystery. God bless you.
Well I guess that proves it, then.
Go Romania!! I agree with you. God is coming and will take his children
Christianity is the path through struggle. It makes no sense that we would not struggle with the sinners through Tribulations... This just sounds like wishful thinking... It would be better to be prepared to not be raptured than prepare to be rapture only to find you're still here....
@@kingkoi6542 Amen! The Bible teaches that God has will guide us through tribulation, not save us from it. Just look at Joseph in prison, Moses in the wilderness and Jesus in Gethsemane. God will give us strength to overcome, just have faith and trust in Him!
I will forever bless the day youtube recommended this channel to me. Answering my questions one at a time.
Thessalonians 4:16-18
"For The Lord himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet with The Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with The Lord.
Therefore comfort each other with these words."
When He comes, 'one will be taken and one will be left'. Pray you are one to be left. As it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be during the coming of the Son of man. Only the wicked were taken during the flood. Noah and his family remained.
Right. That's the rapture. He only appears in the sky. His second coming is after the tribulation. That's when he comes down to earth..
@@Here12years Scripture to back up this claim, please. 'Second Coming' means He is visible for EVERY eye to see. I'd like to see some scripture backing up the claim that Jesus comes and remains in the sky until the tribulation is done. Scripture CONSTANTLY tells us that God will deliver/keep/protect us THROUGH tribulations, not take us from them, or them from us. Rapture theology doesn't work. It's also very new (+- 120 years), introduced through Darby and the Schofield Bible. This is also where you get Zionism. It's ugly. It's not Biblical. It's a heresy.
@@mikegraves8628
Matt.24, The whole point of the "days of Noah" reference. The context has nothing to do with Noah,or how God saved Noah. The point Jesus was making was HOW they were living in the days of Noah,just before the flood (judgment) came and drowned all of them. They were "eating and drinking,marry,and giving away in marriage," another words business as usual, all the while,NOT KNOWING that judgment was upon them. Then Jesus said "and so also will be the coming ..." This clearly indicates He is talking about coming Before the judgments,before the tribulation. Not after.
Jesus quoted Daniel 12 and mentions "the abomination".
ALL the Jews knew this prophecy,that's why Jesus quoted it. Now, Jesus commanded,not suggested,that we keep watch over all the signs,right? Why should we? How can Jesus come unexpectedly?
because Jesus CANNOT come at any time! Oh no,not "the Day Of The Lord",which comes at the end of the tribulation.. Why? Because the rest of Daniel 12,which Jesus started to quote, reads: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. So here, there is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,RETURNS to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day.
So now you have a major contradiction.
if you were taught biblical exegesis and hermeneutics,you would know that there are rules. Rule that can't be broken if you're being honest with what scripture is saying. Not what you want it to say. And this is one of the big rules.You cannot have a direct contradiction like this. If Jesus is teaching that He will come unexpectedly, which was the whole point of the Matt.24 "like in the days of Noah" analogy, then this His coming that He is referring to is,IS NOT the return at the end of the tribulation. Which is know as "the Day Of The Lord".It can't be,because we know that coming will happen, to the very day.
Why should we keep watch over "all these things" He commanded us to? How can people be living "business as usual" and making plans for their future,ALL through the tribulation,until the end,when very few people are even alive?! How can ALL the churches just "fall asleep",(Matt.25,parable of the ten bridesmaids) while the Antichrist is killing all the saints ? Rev.13:7
Did the apostles know what the church was when Jesus taught "Upon this rock I shall build my church,and the gate of hell shall never prevail against it"? No! They didn't know what the church was. That word ecclesia meant "called out ones". Who was that? Did they know the church would be mostly gentiles,under a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant? No. Not for decades. Only Paul had the "mystery"of the church and the rapture revealed to him.Thirty plus years later. Only the writer of Hebrews knew there was going to be a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant. Because the new covenant was for gentiles,the church. So,in the Olivet discourse,in three of the gospels, when Jesus taught about His returning,they,and everyone listening to Jesus,who knew the prophets, had no clue about the rapture.Because they didn't have a clue about what the church was! They only knew the Day Of the Lord,which comes at the end of the tribulation. Everyone who followed Jesus was looking for the Messiah to come and set up His kingdom reign. But the things He was teaching and prophesying just didn't make sense. Not to the Jews or the apostles. Think about it,with what you knew of O.T. prophecies and then listening to Jesus teach here,wouldn't you be confused? You can't separate the prophecies concerning the Jews,and the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel,and possibly the "bridesmaids who ran out of oil" (they were left out of the wedding (the rapture)but it doesn't mean they can't repent,from the church. Not if you didn't know what the church is. And thats the problem Post Trib believers have. They see the tribulation saints,as the church,going through the judgments of God's wrath. But our faith has already been proven,or we wouldn't have been raptured in the first place,get it. It's the tribulation saints (notice they're not ekklesia) ,which in part must be the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel,who's faith is being tested.
@@Dan-g6d
The abomination of desolation occurred in AD 70. The ancient church understood this, which is exactly why Christ said "this generation will surely not pass till ALL is fulfilled". What generation? THAT generation. The generation He was speaking to. Again, I will say that the Rapture doctrine is new. It did not exist 200 years ago. It's not Biblical. The Rapture doctrine also gives way to a 'second chance', that you may be saved after the church has been Raptured. When Jesus returns suddenly, that's it. "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”
When He comes, EVERY eye will see Him, even those that pierced Him. Insinuating that those that crucified our Lord have been resurrected. "The dead in Christ shall rise FIRST, THEN we which are alive and REMAIN shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord". Context is everything. If the dead are rising, this is the resurrection. Every human being that has ever existed will be resurrected, either to eternal life, or will face the second death. THAT is Biblical. Nowhere in Scripture is there described a SECRET Rapture event where only Christians will disappear, and then all of the sudden the tribulation takes place.
Also; 1 Thessalonians 4:16 says He will RETURN with a SHOUT. Not very secretive. It's pretty clear when you read it for what it says. Dispensationalism leads the church astray, and it's specifically a Western church theology.
Regarding Israel and the 144,000, you're ASSUMING they're Jews. That's your westernized interpretation of the Word. Israel was made up of 12 tribes. 10 of them were cast out of the land and are now referred to as the "lost tribes". If you know anything about ancient history, you'll find that these 10 tribes make up the modern world/nations. For example, the tribes of Dan, Ashur, and Nephtali settled in Scandinavia, Denmark, etc. and ended up making what is today the German, French, Danish, and other people groups. These tribes didn't just 'disappear'. They migrated over to Europe, and they weren't 'Jewish'. The modern day state of Israel is made up of Ashkenazi Jews, who aren't children of Shem (Semitic), but of Japheth (Gomer/Ashkenaz).
At the end of the day, it sounds like you are fully in on this Rapture business, and there's nothing I can say to change your mind. All I can say is that I hope your faith is strong and doesn't fail you in the day of trouble and He hasn't returned yet. My parents believe the same things you do, and there's nothing I can say to change their minds.
Agreed. Really appreciate how charitable you presented this. No mocking. No insulting. Much respect.
Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36
Oh and before opening of the FIRST seal......
Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
(Did you see?? "Redeemed us to GOD" from every nation, kindred and tongue?)
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The 24 elders are in heaven with Jesus, before the opening of the seals. Who is the 24 elders? In verse 9 we read: "for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" Who is redeemed from every tongue, people and nation?
@@justmyopinion7
As far as escaping goes...
Isaiah 57:1-2
@@irajones1821 And how is this in context?
@@justmyopinion7
The first part of your comment was referring to escaping the things that are about to happen.
Isaiah 57:1-2
Is talking about the righteous perishing and no one takes it to heart and considers that by their death they are taken away from the evil to come. Therefore... escaping.
Entering into peace,
Resting in their beds and walking in their uprightness.
@@irajones18211st Thess. 1:10
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
Yep, then he’s coming down to judge one time one time only
Yes and that's the rapture. He doesn't come to earth until after the tribulation, that will be his 2nd coming..
@@Here12years yeah there’s a couple books out there. There is no rapture and they explain why what it says when Jesus comes down he’s gonna raise the dead and he’s gonna bring his living followers and he’s gonna come down here and judge the end
@@stewarttomkinson3356 there's many many books out there confirming the pre-trib rapture...
@@stewarttomkinson3356 you are talking about his 2nd coming
This is a very good video to put clarity into the Bible passages that are used to imply that there is a Rapture. And as I read through the comments, it is very apparent that there are many defenders of the Rapture teachings, and they are definitely speaking against your interpretation of these passages.
I am of the same (or similar) beliefs as you are about the Rapture teaching. To think that God would take away a subset of believers to heaven, to sit and eat their popcorn as they watch the earth’s tribulation events, is against the nature of a loving God. And since most Rapture defenders generally think they will be included in the group being raptured because they are “believers in Jesus Christ” is not a valid discriminator of who should be included.
I believe as you have said, that we will ALL be present on earth during the tribulation, and that our faith will protect us while we endure the tribulation. Our faith needs to be strong and complete, even in the face of the horrors of tribulation, in order to show God that we are immovable in our faith. Those who survive the tribulation will be rewarded when we greet Jesus upon his return to earth.
Any other belief in some sort of Rapture is really a false hope to people, and is a dangerous teaching that will cause “supposedly true believers” to become lax with their faith, believing that one day Jesus will come and rapture them prior to the tribulation. The three parables in Matthew 25, the ten virgins (Matthew 25:1-13), the bags of gold (Matthew 25:14-30) and the sheep and goats (Matthew 25:31-46) are three examples of the tests of faith that believers will face. These parables all deal with interactions between God and man (believers), and their reactions/responses are tests of faith for them. In all three parables, all of the believers are not guaranteed passage into heaven!
So please, all of you who are diehard Rapture believers because your pastors have convinced you, read these Bible passages with an open mind, rather than a mindset to convince you of what you already have been taught. And ask the Holy Spirit for guidance to understand.
Although am a Rapture believer, I can appreciate your opinion. Their are many scriptures for both positions on the matter. At the end of the day, I believe God gains no value from punishing the faithful during his wrath. Prior to the Tribulation (a period of pure Hell like no other), his believers dead/alive will be "caught-up" to Jesus, thus avoiding God's wrath on unbelievers at that point and time. That said, those who become believers thereafter will have a chance to heaven on the "day-of-the Lord". Unfortunately, as the bible says, they may be headless.
Agreed.
It’s important to remember we are part of a global and eternal church. To think our tiny sliver has it all figured out and the others are wrong is a dangerous path to start down.
Good day. How do you interpret 1 Thessalonions 4: 13- 18. When will that happen
@@Grace777-love Why do dead believers need to be caught up to Jesus? And why does God need to remove believers during his wrath? There were times in the Old Testament when God inflicted His wrath on people, and there were others around them who were not removed from it, but were protected during it. The plagues in Exodus, culminating in the Passover, are good examples. God allows a remnant of His people to be protected while chaos happens all around them. But these people are identified by their unwavering faith in God. It’s still up to each individual to demonstrate unwavering faith in God, no matter what the circumstances are.
@@mariowaldhausen3389 Matt 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (NIV)
'“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. And where I go you know, and the way you know.” Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.' - John 14:1-6 NKJV
Thankful we both believe in the Bible! But this doesn't prove anything.
@@superjonboy873 it proves that Jesus went to prepare a place in heaven where the mansion is. Where does the father abide?
@santa_claus-north_pole so where is the celebrations of the wedding of the groom according to the parable of the 10 virgins, heaven or earth. Revelations 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
" that where I am, there you may be also". And WHERE will Christ be? My bible says He will be ON EARTH ruling from Jerusalem! (Zach 14)
Right on!!! Keep showing what GODS word Says!
You need FAITH to be in this number, not the mockery of demons they always mocked at Gods servants, even mocked at Jesus CONSTANTLY. It's like they have DNA that makes them do this!
context
The scripture is talking those NOT ASLEEP and are watching. (WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR?, and why are you mocking it!)
1 Thessalonians 4;16
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;"
17 "then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the
Lord."
1 Corinthians 15:52
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
John 14:3 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
Revelatioins 3:10-11
10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
Skye, you said something here that is verifiably UNTRUE:
"The rapture makes for exciting movies."
hahahaha
Aw, how mean! You made PureFlix cry!
Bad movies can be still exciting. I love how many crashes occur in a matter of minutes in the Left Behind movie with Nicholas Cage.
Lol, I was going to say the same thing!
scary is exciting to some 🤷♀️
(II Thessalonians Chapter 2) "I beseech you, therefore, Bretheren, by the coming of our LORD, and our gathering together unto Him . . . Right there is your rapture.
Yes, there is the rapture-but when? At His coming. When does He come? At the end of the Tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31).
Amen! The 3 most important things to remember in interpreting Scripture are context, context, context! I differ with your conclusion on where God's people are taken in I Thess. 4, everything else you said is correct. The instantaneous change in I Cor. 15 is Not a change in location, but a change in nature from mortal to immortal. Overall, good job!
Matthew 12:40 KJV - For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Thank you brother, Truth, Jesus. Love in Christ Ken.
Now let's see, the bible is supposedly the word of God and the authors were inspired by God to write the truth, Well God didn't do a very good job of proof reading because there are a lot of outright lies and stories that just don't stack up.
For example, Samson was bound by ropes and as he was delivered to the Philistines he broke his bonds and grabbed a piece of bone using it as a weapon, he then set about slaughtering 1000 armed and trained Philistine soldiers by himself, this is incredible because even if he was super strong and he killed two or three it would be possible, but to believe that he was surrounded by 1000 armed men and he killed them all is just a blatant lie, maybe God helped him and if that was the case why didn't God just kill them himself and spare Samson the trouble? but apparently God didn't intervene just as he's not going to intervene if you are ever in trouble.
The jaw bone of an ass that Samson used as a weapon would have been worn out and broken after the first 100 kills and Samson would have looked like a porcupine covered with spears and arrows, how long did it take him to finish the battle? killing 1000 soldiers must have taken a long time, possibly weeks of constant battle without a rest. This old time Superman story might have been believed by people living in the dark ages but it stretches credulity to the limit today.
The story of Samson is a lie, just as the story of Jonah is a lie, he supposedly lived inside a fish for three days before being vomited up on the shore, the only fish large enough to swallow a man whole is a whale and if that happened he would have been drowned in the whales stomach almost immediately, After three days the whale swam to the shore to deposit Jonah on dry land, very convenient. If it had ejected him in deep water he would have been fish food, Oh well, blind faith covers everything.
Now let's get to Noah, if there was torrential rain for forty days and nights the sea levels around the world would hardly rise at all (Google-Physics 333 Noah’s flood) hardly enough to get the Ark afloat and there would still be plenty of dry land, The Ark floated around for the best part of a year yet there was enough food aboard to feed 500,000 animals, the animals traveled back to their own countries after the cruise finished, the story of Noah is another lie.
Now let's talk about Moses, NO let's not talk about him because his stories are more incredible and unbelievable, The tower of Babel NO, Sodom and Gomorrah NO, Jesus feeding the multitude with a handful of fish and twelve loaves of bread NO, walking on water etc. etc. NO, we should leave these fanciful stories to your common sense, Gee I'm asking a lot to expect common sense from Christians.
Whale is a modern translation, dingbat
Jesus was speaking of His time during death in the belly of earth, defeating satan, snatching the keys, and leading captivity captive, then being resurrected in victory.
Now let's see, the bible is supposedly the word of God and the authors were inspired by God to write the truth, Well God didn't do a very good job of proof reading because there are a lot of outright lies and stories that just don't stack up.
For example, Samson was bound by ropes and as he was delivered to the Philistines he broke his bonds and grabbed a piece of bone using it as a weapon, he then set about slaughtering 1000 armed and trained Philistine soldiers by himself, this is incredible because even if he was super strong and he killed two or three it would be possible, but to believe that he was surrounded by 1000 armed men and he killed them all is just a blatant lie, maybe God helped him and if that was the case why didn't God just kill them himself and spare Samson the trouble? but apparently God didn't intervene just as he's not going to intervene if you are ever in trouble.
The jaw bone of an ass that Samson used as a weapon would have been worn out and broken after the first 100 kills and Samson would have looked like a porcupine covered with spears and arrows, how long did it take him to finish the battle? killing 1000 soldiers must have taken a long time, possibly weeks of constant battle without a rest. This old time Superman story might have been believed by people living in the dark ages but it stretches credulity to the limit today.
The story of Samson is a lie, just as the story of Jonah is a lie, he supposedly lived inside a fish for three days before being vomited up on the shore, the only fish large enough to swallow a man whole is a whale and if that happened he would have been drowned in the whales stomach almost immediately, After three days the whale swam to the shore to deposit Jonah on dry land, very convenient. If it had ejected him in deep water he would have been fish food, Oh well, blind faith covers everything.
Now let's get to Noah, if there was torrential rain for forty days and nights the sea levels around the world would hardly rise at all (Google-Physics 333 Noah’s flood) hardly enough to get the Ark afloat and there would still be plenty of dry land, The Ark floated around for the best part of a year yet there was enough food aboard to feed 500,000 animals, the animals traveled back to their own countries after the cruise finished, the story of Noah is another lie.
Now let's talk about Moses, NO let's not talk about him because his stories are more incredible and unbelievable, The tower of Babel NO, Sodom and Gomorrah NO, Jesus feeding the multitude with a handful of fish and twelve loaves of bread NO, walking on water etc. etc. NO, we should leave these fanciful stories to your common sense, Gee I'm asking a lot to expect common sense from Christians.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Romans 1:22.
Amen
This is about unbelievers. Don’t take the scripture out of context.
1 Thessalonian 4:17 then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Did you watch the video?
@@jred7I also used to believe rapture was not actually in the Bible, however it's mentioned a lot in the New testament. Even after watching the video, by reading everything, you know that Skye in this case took many out of context or didn't understand it himself. Rapture is real and will happen, but there will be much suffering before it occurs. Unlike what many believe, rapture is also God killing his elect because you must die according to the sin of Adom and Eve. It happens to spare of the final destruction and then immediately after is the millennium kingdom and first resurrection.
@@jred7He creates his own story
I truly worry about an ex-friend of mine who not only fully believes the Rapture is coming soon, but has basically put her entire life on hold because she doesn't see the point in investing any of her time, energy or talents into ANYTHING other than waiting for the Rapture to carry her to Heaven. It literally has become about the only thing she wanted to talk about every time I call her, and in the end, I just could not stand it anymore. I will pray for her, but I REFUSE to indulge her delusion any longer.
Yeah they idolize that false pre rapture thing, probable to the point they worship it, you can't wake them up no matter how much truth you show them, their walking around in a stupor...about all one can do is pray for them and hope Christ wakes them up before it's to late...
I'm sorry to hear about your friend's extremism on the Rapture. If she would go back to the Bible on the matter, as a godly person you are not to fear and/or stop living for the Rapture event. In these times (school massacres, insane road rage, constant civil chaos, etc.) it's easy to "want" to escape to a better place. God's blessing in the Rapture will come to the faithful (body of Christ, the church). For now, she needs to focus on the life God gave her today, just stay true to the faith.
She's not the only one. This is my huge problem with other believers as well- they don't plan for the future or handle their business because they are sitting around waiting for the rapture. I don't understand the sentiment- for all we know the end times could be thousands of years in the future. The early church thought Jesus would come back in their lifetimes.
I am trying to explain to my dad that the Catholics like me don’t believe in the Rapture and it’s a false doctrine that was incorporated into the Bible of some religions in the 1800s via the quack John Darby
Exactly why it so deceiving!! 😢
I believe what Skye means to say is there’s no such thing as a pre-tribulation rapture. The catching away is biblical and the word in 1 Thes 4 for that catching away in Latin is “rapturo”. The Greek is harpazo. In other words Skye does believe in the catching away which is the rapture. It’s just not pre-trib.
it would have been paramount for the video to have included this.
But it's not called the rapture, it's called the gathering of the saints, and it happens *after* the Tribulation, NOT before. See Matthew 24:29-31 and Revelation 7.
The tribulation is for those who rejected Jesus it is not for His bride .
As Jesus told us in Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13, and Luke 21.
where does the Bible say that? @@SusanRichardsDay
Harpazo is translated “caught up” or “caught away” the five times (out of. thirteen) it appears in the Bible relating to rapture.
Holy Post is a spin doctor. His error is glaring heresy on so many levels. I lost count of the lies in this video.
Abt the end of the world, not before the end of it
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@@desireehooper9650 Amen! See my latest post to him. He is a Hope and Crown Thief.
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
This guy knows.
There are too many that fall for the beliefs of the churches teaching, and along comes the Mandela effect
I grew with such a theology. My family all believes in the rapture.
And they are right because the rapture is in the Bible 📖
I feel your pain
Since I've only heard Americans talk about the rapture, does that mean only Americans will be raptured? 🤔🥺🙏🇸🇪
You better start believing it’s real remember during Noah’s day’s people didn’t believe in rain or a flood until it was too late
@@terranceburgess9170 This is not causative*..
So many people will be discouraged from your explanation. I always thought there was rapture but I know we will be here during the tribulation. All God’s people must endure and go through this together to the other side! Amen!
thank you for mentioning the trumpet. everyone else skips that part.
Let’s not mention the trumpet please, it spoils the illusion of a secret rapture.
If JESUS speaks with the TRUMPET of a GREAT ANGEL. EVERYONE WILL HEAR it. It is not limited to a mear mans perception.
You need FAITH to be in this number, not the mockery of demons they always mocked at Gods servants, even mocked at Jesus CONSTANTLY. It's like they have DNA that makes them do this!
context
The scripture is talking those NOT ASLEEP and are watching. (WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR?, and why are you mocking it!)
1 Thessalonians 4;16
"For the Lord Himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise first;"
17 "then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so shall we ever be with the
Lord."
1 Corinthians 15:52
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
John 14:3 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
Revelatioins 3:10-11
10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown.
@@BillBiggs1 come on! If its a secret rapture then it is a silent trumpet.
@@seanm2216 lol 😂
Mike, the 'Trumpet' element is key. I go over that in my book, "Blast Off Rapiemur - Edition VI". VLSS, the 'last trump' was the blast that signaled the children to move out during their sojourn in the desert. @@BillBiggs1
John 14:3 “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.”
Yes, at the very visible & very loud 2nd coming of Christ. There is nothing secret about it.
So... Jesus had just finished telling Peter that he would deny Him 3 times.. and Judas is out betraying Him... so Christ is telling the 11 that He is going to prepare a place for THEM, and then come again for THEM and receive THEM unto Himself.. that where He is THEY may be also.... Why is it that THEY were flat out lied to... because they all missed your conjured fable that no Scripture even remotely offers?
Paul calls the event "the resurrection of the dead"... 1 Cor 15:42-55... which you are well aware is the exact same event in 1 Thess 4;13-18 that Paul didn't' want us ignorant about. The resurrection of the dead does not occur until the heavens are destroyed with a great noise... Job 14;12, 2 Peter 3;10, Matt 24;35-42... all three of these passages show that the resurrection of the dead occurs when the heavens are destroyed... those martyred for not taking the mark are resurrected at the FIRST resurrection... Rev 20;4-6... Every argument for a rapture is birthed out of deceit... every single one!
@@Want2cJesus wrong
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Not wrong. I reject this relatively new teaching. It is not Biblical. It is a tradition of men such as Darby and Scofield.
Yes, but the whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"!
Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right
The key word in 1 Thessalonians 4:15 is “precede” which means before. We, who are alive, will in NO way precede those in death. We, believers, will be going through the tribulation but God’s wrath is NOT upon us.
That's it! Bless you Sister. There are few that believe this. Many will get deceived.
@@leekush8297and there are pastors filling their empty seats with it. We need to pray for those being deceived.
@@shannab8232 Of course we shall, and we also should pray for the ones doing the deceiving.
I’m a relatively new sincere Christian, I have not found a church-but have been steadily praying-studying-in fact to be honest in the midst of all my confusion over different doctrine, and how to study, I honestly heard a voice in my left ear - so clear - study Paul the apostle for 8 months. Up to this point, I have come to understand there will not be an early rapture-and that we are at the birth pangs and relatively close to events leading to the start of the last 7 years-hope that all makes sense.
@@ronniepace8778 yes what I've heard in the Spirit is parallel to everything you've said. I am so grateful for the season of isolation He took me through and showed me the many layers of indoctrination. Stay in that intimate relationship with Him because He is the only Truth.
If some of the posts here have your head spinning. Allen Nolan's video provides a much clearer explanation of the Rapture. He's one of the most knowledgeable Christian pastors in the faith. Rapture ruclips.net/video/Eah6_m24sEg/видео.html
There is a rapture of Believers described in the Bible but it is not seperate or secret. It occurs at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and is clearly described in scripture.
The Rapture was invented by Margaret McDonald in 1835 and if you look up the word rapture in the dictionary it's an evil thing.
David McPherson wrote several books on it you could Google him and read his documentation that there is no Rapture that it's Satan that's going to be preaching the Rapture because the first one that's taken in the field and Matthew 24 is Satan taking them in his fake rapture. God bless you
It is in the bible...caught up in the sky...don't listen to this false teacher
It comes *after* the Tribulation, not before, like Rapture advocates often say.
@@anachisum686 Were you even listening to him?
@@denisemayosky1955 were u
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
There is literally nothing in that passage that says Enoch was raptured. Reading your belief into the text won't make it true. Romans shows Paul saying that EVERYBODY from Adam to Moses died. That includes Enoch.
There is no such thing about people being left behind. Jesus will come back and get his people and everybody will see him. The people who hate jesus will ask the rocks to fall on them. Everybody will know.
Matthew 24:30-31 King James Version
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 King James Version
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Luke 17:34-37 King James Version
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together.
Thank you so much for your teaching‼️
As a Catholic I didn’t believe in rapture. But- there is so much content on YT „pro rapture“, that I wasn’t 100% sure about it anymore.
May God bless you and protect you ❗️🙏🏻
Greetings from Germany 🙋🏻♀️ Nicola
You should go to Catholic Productions, and check Brant Pitre's Jesus and the End Times. VERY enlightening.
You should check out Brant Pitre's Jesus and the End Times over at Catholic Productions. VERY enlightening.
1 Thess 4:17 is where the word rapture is found. The word we use as "caught up" is called Harpadzo in the Greek. In the Latin vulgate it is transliterated into English as rapture or rapiemur. Thats where we get it from. We will meet him in the air...not on the ground. And then after He has received us to Himself He will take us to the place He has prepared for us (Jn 14:1-3).
2,000 years later and still debating fundamental scriptural doctrine. Didn't Jesus say "you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free''?...
Actually no. He said IF YOU ARE MY DISCIPLE, you will know the truth...... Amazing how many people leave out that predicative phrase before knowing the truth. Mike
@@mtwseneca Good point. So who would you say are Jesus' disciples today who 'know the truth and have been seet free'?...
@@DM-he1ug "Disciple" carries the idea of discipline. In any field, discipline means dedication. For us, that means being dedicated to hold and do what God's word tells us.
If Jesus said to pray to ESCAPE the things he revealed and we neglect that, we already are off the path.
There is a concerted effort by satan to nullify what God said.
Why now, is this media giant (remember the giants?) recommending anti- "Blessed hope" vids in the right-side list?
He and they are going down when Exodus II comes to pass, and his efforts now are to make that number who "Escape" as small as he can. Mike
@@mtwsenecaYes He is certainly doing his best to deceive and confuse as many as possible since he knows his time is short! Yes we should always pray that we are accounted worthy to escape the wrath that's going to come upon the world and to be worthy to stand before the Lord! God bless you and everyone in Jesus's mighty name!😊🕊🔥💖✝️🫂❤️
Jesus Christ (The Eternally Existing Son of God, God The Son, Savior, Christ) promises eternal life ONCE you believe he died for your sins, was buried, rose again the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved!
Another consideration is, what will happen to people’s faith who based their beliefs on the expectation that they would not have to endure any serious persecution?
Jesus comment that “because of the increase in wickedness the love of most will grow cold” (Matt 24)was in context of being asked about his return. If you are counting on being raptured before things get too tough how will your faith hold up under extreme persecution? Shouldn’t our goal to be one who has a faith strong enough to be one of those who “overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.”?? Rev 12:11
Look around you ....right now the world is crazy enough to test faith and draw you closer to God
The book of Matthew was written for Jews and the bulk of Israel will go into the tribulation. Unfortunately, two thirds of Israel will be killed during the tribulation. The remaining third will turn to Christ and be saved and go on to rule with Christ during the millennian reign.
@hscollier Who said we're not going to endure serious persecution before the rapture. Have you studied the Olivet discourse in Matt.24? Jesus prophesied we would be persecuted,it's one of the signs. Are you aware of the statistics showing that more Christians are and have been persecuted in the last fifteen years,than in any other time in church history! How many have been killed in Africa ,India,and the middle east? Some were martyred,some were tortured,other's managed to escape as refugees,having to leave behind everything they own. How did their faith hold up?
This is the message I'm posting everywhere I'm able to. A message,call it prophetic if you want,but this is what has shown me.
Why did the apostles fall asleep in the garden? How could they allow that to happen? Jesus woke them up.And they went back to sleep?!!!! What?j Jesus had been telling them He was at the end of His ministry. He had been preparing them to carry it on for the last three years. Was he ever wrong? Never! And the apostles knew it. Why did they fall asleep? Do you ever see the apostles directly ignore an instruction Jesus gave them?
Study the events just hours earlier and notice. At least John and Peter knew that Judas was going to betray Jesus.
So,when Jesus woke up John and Peter,why didn't they notice that Judas had never returned?
Now,look at what happened when the rude awakening came upon all of them. They were all overcome by fear. Peter takes up his sword,and tries to kill the guard coming at him. And denied knowing Jesus later. Jesus warned him,stay up and pray or you'll be overcome by temptation. And then all the apostles deserted Jesus and hid themselves away.
Now Jesus commanded us to keep watch over the signs of His coming. It wasn't a suggestion!! And they're happening like never before! ALL of the are! (Jason A youtube channel is documenting them.) So we should be paying attention to what Jesus prophesied in Matt.24 and realize how close we are to His coming.
Take note,Matt.25,which is post text to the Olivet discourse,the parable of the ten bridesmaids.
5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP.It's not just some ran out of oil. If just one had stayed awake,she could have warned the others,before it was too late.See that? Were any of them truly wise? There's a rude awakening coming to America. And we,you,need to warn those Christians who are asleep! Those who don't want to believe what Jesus taught,so they're ignoring the signs.
ALL the signs are happening right now. Volcanoes and earthquakes erupting all over,breaking records. Hurricanes,floods,crop failure,gov't mandated destruction! (millions of chickens ordered destroyed because of one case of avian bird flu!),insect plagues,famines,the greatest persecution of Christians in church history, wars and rumors of wars.
The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming/ You know this. And the newly formed global economic system is already emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17.How hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country?
The apostles ignored Jesus prophecies because they just didn't want to believe it was all going to happen now.And they paid a price for not staying awake and praying when Jesus instructed them to. They were overcome by their fears. They blew their testimony.They ran away and deserted Jesus,and hid themselves away! And Christians are repeating this right now! Much of the church is asleep,just like Jesus taught. They're hoping trump will come back and everything will go back to being great again. That's not going to happen. This country is on the verge of collapse right now.And many Christians are falling away,just like Paul taught in 2Thess.
The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Most Americans are ignorant of the continuation of government protocols,executive orders,which under a national economic emergency,the president,who's now the Commander in Chief,along with the dept, secretaries,have the authority to seize every citizens personal property and assets,to pay off our national debt!Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming. Everyone awake knows this. And this global economic system,in planning for decades, is now emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17 in the bible.Which paves the way for the Antichrist to take over and rule.
So hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? When martial law is declared you can be sure chaos and fear will spread like a wildfire across our nation. Now you say "if it happens"? IF? It's all been planned!!! Wake up. Why do you think millions are stocking up on food and supplies,and buy guns and ammo,in record numbers! Here;s a fact.America is not mentioned in bible prophecy. Many other countries are but we're not. Why do you think that is? Now ALL the signs Jesus warned about are happening like I've never seen before.And I've been studying bible prophecy for forty years now. Christians are having dreams and visions about the coming fall of America. Not just a few,but many are. So be wise and start praying,and preparing,because it's coming soon.
Who said we're not going to endure serious persecution before the rapture. Have you studied the Olivet discourse in Matt.24? Jesus prophesied we would be persecuted,it's one of the signs. Are you aware of the statistics showing that more Christians are and have been persecuted in the last fifteen years,than in any other time in church history! How many have been killed in Africa ,India,and the middle east? Some were martyred,some were tortured,other's managed to escape as refugees,having to leave behind everything they own. How did their faith hold up?
This is the message I'm posting everywhere I'm able to. A message,call it prophetic if you want,but this is what has shown me.
Why did the apostles fall asleep in the garden? How could they allow that to happen? Jesus woke them up.And they went back to sleep?!!!! What?j Jesus had been telling them He was at the end of His ministry. He had been preparing them to carry it on for the last three years. Was he ever wrong? Never! And the apostles knew it. Why did they fall asleep? Do you ever see the apostles directly ignore an instruction Jesus gave them?
Study the events just hours earlier and notice. At least John and Peter knew that Judas was going to betray Jesus.
So,when Jesus woke up John and Peter,why didn't they notice that Judas had never returned?
Now,look at what happened when the rude awakening came upon all of them. They were all overcome by fear. Peter takes up his sword,and tries to kill the guard coming at him. And denied knowing Jesus later. Jesus warned him,stay up and pray or you'll be overcome by temptation. And then all the apostles deserted Jesus and hid themselves away.
Now Jesus commanded us to keep watch over the signs of His coming. It wasn't a suggestion!! And they're happening like never before! ALL of the are! (Jason A youtube channel is documenting them.) So we should be paying attention to what Jesus prophesied in Matt.24 and realize how close we are to His coming.
Take note,Matt.25,which is post text to the Olivet discourse,the parable of the ten bridesmaids.
5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP.It's not just some ran out of oil. If just one had stayed awake,she could have warned the others,before it was too late.See that? Were any of them truly wise? There's a rude awakening coming to America. And we,you,need to warn those Christians who are asleep! Those who don't want to believe what Jesus taught,so they're ignoring the signs.
ALL the signs are happening right now. Volcanoes and earthquakes erupting all over,breaking records. Hurricanes,floods,crop failure,gov't mandated destruction! (millions of chickens ordered destroyed because of one case of avian bird flu!),insect plagues,famines,the greatest persecution of Christians in church history, wars and rumors of wars.
The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming/ You know this. And the newly formed global economic system is already emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17.How hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country?
The apostles ignored Jesus prophecies because they just didn't want to believe it was all going to happen now.And they paid a price for not staying awake and praying when Jesus instructed them to. They were overcome by their fears. They blew their testimony.They ran away and deserted Jesus,and hid themselves away! And Christians are repeating this right now! Much of the church is asleep,just like Jesus taught. They're hoping trump will come back and everything will go back to being great again. That's not going to happen. This country is on the verge of collapse right now.And many Christians are falling away,just like Paul taught in 2Thess.
The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Most Americans are ignorant of the continuation of government protocols,executive orders,which under a national economic emergency,the president,who's now the Commander in Chief,along with the dept, secretaries,have the authority to seize every citizens personal property and assets,to pay off our national debt!Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming. Everyone awake knows this. And this global economic system,in planning for decades, is now emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17 in the bible.Which paves the way for the Antichrist to take over and rule.
So hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? When martial law is declared you can be sure chaos and fear will spread like a wildfire across our nation. Now you say "if it happens"? IF? It's all been planned!!! Wake up. Why do you think millions are stocking up on food and supplies,and buy guns and ammo,in record numbers! Here;s a fact.America is not mentioned in bible prophecy. Many other countries are but we're not. Why do you think that is? Now ALL the signs Jesus warned about are happening like I've never seen before.And I've been studying bible prophecy for forty years now. Christians are having dreams and visions about the coming fall of America. Not just a few,but many are. So be wise and start praying,and preparing,because it's coming soon.
@hscollier
Who said we're not going to endure serious persecution before the rapture. Have you studied the Olivet discourse in Matt.24? Jesus prophesied we would be persecuted,it's one of the signs. Are you aware of the statistics showing that more Christians are and have been persecuted in the last fifteen years,than in any other time in church history! How many have been killed in Africa ,India,and the middle east? Some were martyred,some were tortured,other's managed to escape as refugees,having to leave behind everything they own. How did their faith hold up? This is the message I'm posting everywhere I'm able to. A message,call it prophetic if you want,but this is what has shown me.
Why did the apostles fall asleep in the garden? How could they allow that to happen? Jesus woke them up.And they went back to sleep?!!!! What?j Jesus had been telling them He was at the end of His ministry. He had been preparing them to carry it on for the last three years. Was he ever wrong? Never! And the apostles knew it. Why did they fall asleep? Do you ever see the apostles directly ignore an instruction Jesus gave them? Study the events just hours earlier and notice. At least John and Peter knew that Judas was going to betray Jesus. So,when Jesus woke up John and Peter,why didn't they notice that Judas had never returned? Now,look at what happened when the rude awakening came upon all of them. They were all overcome by fear. Peter takes up his sword,and tries to kill the guard coming at him. And denied knowing Jesus later. Jesus warned him,stay up and pray or you'll be overcome by temptation. And then all the apostles deserted Jesus and hid themselves away.
Now Jesus commanded us to keep watch over the signs of His coming. It wasn't a suggestion!! And they're happening like never before! ALL of the are! (Jason A youtube channel is documenting them.) So we should be paying attention to what Jesus prophesied in Matt.24 and realize how close we are to His coming. Take note,Matt.25,which is post text to the Olivet discourse,the parable of the ten bridesmaids. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP.It's not just some ran out of oil. If just one had stayed awake,she could have warned the others,before it was too late.See that? Were any of them truly wise? There's a rude awakening coming to America. And we,you,need to warn those Christians who are asleep! Those who don't want to believe what Jesus taught,so they're ignoring the signs. ALL the signs are happening right now. Volcanoes and earthquakes erupting all over,breaking records. Hurricanes,floods,crop failure,gov't mandated destruction! (millions of chickens ordered destroyed because of one case of avian bird flu!),insect plagues,famines,the greatest persecution of Christians in church history, wars and rumors of wars. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming/ You know this. And the newly formed global economic system is already emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17.How hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? The apostles ignored Jesus prophecies because they just didn't want to believe it was all going to happen now.And they paid a price for not staying awake and praying when Jesus instructed them to. They were overcome by their fears. They blew their testimony.They ran away and deserted Jesus,and hid themselves away! And Christians are repeating this right now! Much of the church is asleep,just like Jesus taught. They're hoping trump will come back and everything will go back to being great again. That's not going to happen. This country is on the verge of collapse right now.And many Christians are falling away,just like Paul taught in 2Thess. The truth is,America is under judgment. God has removed His protection and power from us as a nation. Our enemies have infiltrated our gov't and pull the strings of the presidency,the Whitehouse,and many federal agencies (The deep state"). You and I,and every taxpayer owes nearly $100,000.00 because of the national debt! Think we can pay this off? Well it's not going away! And now,the president is adding more than another trillion dollars to this debt! get it?The millions of illegals that have been let into our country,who is going to pay for them? Most Americans are ignorant of the continuation of government protocols,executive orders,which under a national economic emergency,the president,who's now the Commander in Chief,along with the dept, secretaries,have the authority to seize every citizens personal property and assets,to pay off our national debt!Everybody,non Christian, economic and financial experts are warning of this collapse in the U.S. and the great reset coming. Everyone awake knows this. And this global economic system,in planning for decades, is now emerging. This IS the "beast"system of Rev.13 and 17 in the bible.Which paves the way for the Antichrist to take over and rule.
So hard would it to stage a false flag terror attack now,since thousands more terrorist have been allowed into our country? When martial law is declared you can be sure chaos and fear will spread like a wildfire across our nation. Now you say "if it happens"? IF? It's all been planned!!! Wake up. Why do you think millions are stocking up on food and supplies,and buy guns and ammo,in record numbers! Here;s a fact.America is not mentioned in bible prophecy. Many other countries are but we're not. Why do you think that is? Now ALL the signs Jesus warned about are happening like I've never seen before.And I've been studying bible prophecy for forty years now. Christians are having dreams and visions about the coming fall of America. Not just a few,but many are. So be wise and start praying,and preparing,because it's coming soon.
Excellent. Dispensationalism is NOT Scriptural in my observation
With your "observation," could you please define in 30 words or less what dispensationalism even is? If it's not asking too much, go ahead & tell us WHY it's not scriptural.
@@Kman. Thank you for your question. To answer your questions:
1. Dispensationalism is defined correctly at 5:04 in this video.
2. It is Impossible to list all Biblical scriptures in under 30 words all the scriptural evidence that demands a verdict that disapproves Dispensationalism. To many scriptural both didactic and narrative in both Old and New Testament that states that God, Jesus, and Holy Spirit are the same yesterday, today, tomorrow and for all eternity.
Thank you and May God Bless your journey and answer your questions directly into your heart.
@@LovinglyStonedProd I did not ask for scripture, I asked why the position is not scriptural... I'm out of town, and I am not at a computer but I will reply in more detail when I get back home from out of town.
@@LovinglyStonedProd One other thought before you try to define what dispensationalism is. It is NOT defined in this video at all, and forgive me, but I highly doubt that you're able to define it without trying to look up the definition.. He merely used the word. You simply are parroting what you have heard and have only made a denial. Cheers!
Its better to believe than to miss it. You won't know you are wrong untill it's too late,i will stay ready for my raptured soul to go to my home in heaven.
So true. Think about it, what value would God gain from punishing the faithful. It's the unbelievers that must be held accountable for the rejection of his son Jesus Christ. The Tribulation is theirs to experience, not the body of Christ, the church.
The definition of rapture means to be caught up. 1 Thessalonians 4
As someone who's listen and read the whole bible well over 50 times I agree with this, it can go a bit further but great video.
Read it again. This guy missed the mark in many ways. All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5)
Sorry, this man needs to study more.
@@DonaldFry-es7tzExegesis is important.
@@happyappy19931 Absolutely critical.
No prophet ever mentioned anything about a rapture
irrelevant. No prophet ever mentioned the trinity either.Or the church.
@@deydrm Very relevant!!….I know ther is no Trinity and that the church being raptued is baseless
@@eds2525 If there is no trinity,and Jesus is not God,then our faith is in vain.
And the tenets of Christian orthodoxy require the belief in these things. Anyone teaching otherwise is considered a false teacher,and a cult.
@@deydrm Well, I guess your faith is in vain then because there is only one GOD (The Father)and His Son (The Messiah)…….. The Spirit Holy Spirit of the Father will be on the Son to do His Will. All Christian denominations want to make the Son out to be this Separate Entity God from the Father doing his own will-independent of what the scriptures from the prophets say he will do when he returns. Everyone wish is to totally ignore the Father and hiIs words spoken by the prophets!
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Romans 13:1-2
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Acts 17:3
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:36
In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
Romans 2:16
No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
John 5:30-31
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:10
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
And he said unto them, What would ye that I should do for you? They said unto him, Grant unto us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory. But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
John 5:19
Cling onto Jesus as being independent of the Father and be prepared to be told from the Father by the mouth of Jesus…… I never knew you!
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
If the pre trib rapture was true then the prophets would've prophesied it as @eds2525 stated...
keep sharing it brother the truth will set us free
I tried to explain this to my parents, but they did want to listen or believe what I was trying get them to believe truth
Um - so they can recognise a myth, and you can't?
Listen to your parents, they are right. This guy missed the mark in many ways. All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5)
Sorry, this man needs to study more.
@@howdydoodey3872 What exactly are you saying?
John, never stop communicating with your parents ... if they support the imminent Rapture or do not believe at all, my book deals specifically with the Bible, chapter and verse. I corrected Skye in an earlier post this a.m., up above, when he easily misunderstood the word 'taken', which from the Greek revals deliverance .. see the post ... Terry, TL Farley Books ...
You're trying to change what is truth they already know.
Actually, there is a "rapture" that occurs for the believers that are alive, it is the being taken up into the air to meet The Lord as mentioned in the scriptures.
We will be wherever Jesus is at from that point on.
The Bible does not teach a rapture of any kind, as Christ plainly prophecies in Matt. 24 that the whole world _will see_ Christ's saints being gathered to Him _when He returns_ . That's the part that makes the rapture doctrine inherently false. Nobody is going to be mysteriously zapped off the planet with no one knowing where they want, nor will it happen at any point before Christ's return.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 As I stated in my original reply, it is the believers that are alive being taken up in the air to meet The Lord, that is the rapture, of course the dead in Christ will rise first.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 I Have To Agree With You.
And As For You, THAT'S NOT IT And Stay Out Of It!
@@cameronsmith8427 Yes, that is it and I can't stay out of it because I'm a born again believer and when The Lord appears I along with other believers that are alive will be caught up in the air to meet the Lord.
Or, if I'm already passed on then I'll be resurrected and meet The Lord in the air.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
And then we escort Jesus down to Earth. Welcoming Him back. The bible says His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives and the mountain will cleave. Jesus will set up His Kingdom in Jerusalem on My Zion. He goes from the Mount of Olives to Jerusalem through the Eastern Gate.
That happens after the Tribulations…
@@stevea2588
Without a rapture,and it must be Pre trib,you have some major contradictions in scripture.Now lets get something straight. This teacher claims dispensationalist won't teach out of Matt.24,or Luke 17,21. Thats not true,not at all. Jack Van Impe and Chuck Missler did. Many others have.Should I give him the benefit of the doubt that he's unaware, because it seems he's purposely trying to mislead people? Here's my teaching,as I studied under these guys,for decades,and others,and I am a Premillenial Dispensationalist. I've also been trained in Greek and Hebrew exegesis,and biblical hermeneutics.
In Luke 17, 35,36,"One is taken (not killed). In the original Greek, from para lambano, to receive from,. The other left,from apo hiemi, left alone,sent away. Also not necessarily killed. One is received,or taken,one is left behind. In verse 37, the word "vulture" is mistranslated in the original manuscript.The Greek word is aeotos,which is clearly "eagles" ,not vultures. This verse is still a mystery,what does it mean? Because Eagles do not gather around dead bodies,eagles eat live prey. And the people of Jesus day,which was an agrarian society,knew this. It was purposely mistranslated because apparently the translators knew that only vultures gather around dead bodies. But it's there in Luke 17amd Matt.24,purposely written down as Eagles,not vultures. But here's the thing you missed.Luke 17:37,The apostles ask "WHERE" when Jesus says they were taken,or received(unto someone). WHERE were they taken? Jesus doesn't answer that. But those who say taken means killed,they're wrong. The apostles wouldn't ask 'where"if they understood it was killed.
Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night".
Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. So now,be the first Post Trib believer in over three decades of my experience debating the rapture, to answer this question,and the other points I'll bring. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch?
In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12:
11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,returns to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know this prophecy? Well the Pharisees surely did. So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? Why should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,please tell me?
Now Luke 17:35 makes sense,get it. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31.
But there it is,Jesus quoted Daniel 12,and 1335 days after the "abomination of desolation, Jesus will return. Why watch for it? How can He come when nobody knows?
This is all a lie do not believe this. By the power and the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, and the Holy Spirit of Truth,you are rebuked. This was all spoken of, false prophets. Look up and Watch"Before The Wrath". There is a rapture He is coming any day for His faithful. Don't be left behind. If you are ready leave notes messages highlighted Bibles recordings anything telling the truth of where we went and how they can get there.
All this video did is confirm for me that the rapture is indeed in the Bible. He ended by mentioning I Corinthians 15, but just he chastised people for earlier, took only a piece of the passage. The context of this chapter is the changing of the perishable (the flesh) with the imperishable (spiritual bodies). "50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality." Somehow, this perishable flesh will be changed "in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet." This is not talking about a few people who survive welcoming Jesus in the flesh. It is a "mysterious" event (vs.51). Notice it also says "we will not all sleep" (die) "but we will all be changed..." Changed into what? That which is imperishable (vs. 50). His lack of faith in the clear teaching of the Bible is alarming, and alarmingly close to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach; that the bad people will be taken leaving the good people behind. May I remind you the "rapture" has already happened twice in the Bible - Enoch and Elijah. Neither saw death. (Hebrews 11:5)
Sorry, this man needs to study more.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 says, "Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord"
So True. The fact that Jesus returns at the end of the seven-year Tribulation with His church is evidence that the Rapture must occur before the Tribulation begins.
1 Thessalonians 4:17-18 The words of these scriptures are given to us, as Jesus’ church, while waiting for the return of our Lord, to bring us comfort. Paul wrote these words of comfort and encouragement so that we would understand that Jesus could come for us at any moment. He will take us to heaven before the time of God’s wrath, which will be poured out "during" the seven-year Tribulation.
@@Grace777-love Amen 🙏🏽
The ppl., in the flood were destroyed ,Not raptured ! The Rapture was not for that time ! That was not the end time ! Two different times two different events !
Did you listen to the whole thing? It seems you missed the solid arguments.
There is only one time of resurrection where both the Holy and the wicked will be resurrected. 1 Thess 5 also refers to "coming in the clouds" as his "return". If a rapture is a "return", then we are looking for a second AND a third coming. Get it?
@@danielbu2611where is “his third coming” in the bible. That thess verse is about the last trumpet, all who have died in Jesus will be raised first. The reason why it says we shall be taken into the clouds is because earth will pass away when judgement is here
@@SaliasGaga Matt 24 is the most thorough telling of the return of Jesus, the second coming. Jesus said he would only return once to establish his kingdom. In Matt 24, he mentions clouds, the sky, a trumpet, a call of the archangel, a sign, and perhaps more I can't recall right now. EVERY "rapture" support passage mentions one of these events or the word "return".
1 Thess 4 and 5 are no different. He talks about meeting Jesus in the clouds using the Greek word used for going out to meet conquering leaders, then continues specifically mentioning it as Jesus' RETURN. Ignore that the number 5 starts a new chapter and realize that 1 Thess is a letter meant to be read continuously. chapter 5 is continuing what is said at the end of chapter 4.
Therefore, if "coming in the clouds" refers to his return, then it is referring to the 2nd FINAL coming. Otherwise, a rapture would be a second coming (because it is referred to as a return) and Jesus' final coming would be a THIRD return.
Does that make sense?
In the end, it doesn't really matter. "Rapture or not" is one of the most useless debates in the church.
Yes there is no rapture.
But..........
Thessalonians is talking about the day of the Lord when fire comes out of the sky and God melts the planet with a fervent beat.
People who are saved will be called away but this is after Jesus returns at the end of his 1,000 year reign on earth.
The 1,000 years begins at the end of the tribulation.
There are two resurrections of the dead .
The first when Jesus returns at the end of the tribulation , these dead are only the martyrs who died for Christ because of their faith.
The second is at the end of the 1,000 year reign.
Jesus comes back at the end of the tribulation not the beginning.
There is no rapture.
You have to read mid way through Revelation 19 when Jesus returns and the first 6 verses of Revelation 20 which spell's out the chronological return of Jesus .
All other verses about His return have to work with these verses in Revelation.
Different events? a true christian ever read the bible in context? No but they act and judge like they did and why more Harvard students I am finding are becoming instant atheist after reading in context. What they show me is very upsetting being a believer of a Scam I hope Not. A-MEN
Actually it is…I have studies and read these sections on my own, many times…folks: do your own reading and analysis and make up your own mind…
No it's not. If it were, it would've been a core doctrine of the church for almost 2 millennia. Pre-Trib rapture was a contemporary "doctrine" founded off lack of hermeneutics
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I have and do not believe in the Rapture.
@@run4cmtSame. I've studied these passages many times in depth. They are definitely not teaching a "rapture".
I am convinced the last days are surely here deception & confusion is alive if he can convince a fraction of human beings to question God’s word BUT I say pray and ask God for guidance man will leave you astray trust me your soul depends on knowing the truth!
Well, I guess we'll see when that day comes. When the rapture does happen a lot of brothers and sisters will be surprised, expecting to go midtrib or post trib.... Shalom and Maranatha!
Think of it this way sister, no offense at all but i've studied this book of Gods great words thoroughly and had once believed pre trib as well but have now come to see and understand that its looking more like pre wrath whenever that is? 6th seal? Im not dogmatic and i really hope i am wrong on this one but if by chance we may have to go through a bit of a rough patch here the many who thought and followed people who told them that we get a completely free pass from anything to come will be the ones more disappointed and possibly loss of faith due to false hopes and persecutions which they believed were not to come to them. The way i see it in scripture is that we all should be ready to "STAND" no matter what comes our way.(PERSECUTIONS OR DEATH). Expect the worst hope for the best!
SO YES LIKE YOU SAID, IF PRE TRIB HAPPENS ID BE VERY SURPRISED AND GREATFUL, BUT IF THE OTHER WAY AROUND, COMPLETE DESPAIR AND CONFUSION!
The ones thinking they are going to get a free pass are the ones that will be deceived by antichrist (satan) which comes first, peacefully and prosperously and performs miracles making people believe he’s the true Christ and has come to “rapture” them away… But I got news for you all.. You will be deceived by that son of perdition (the antichrist) spoken of in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 which comes before the true Christ. Better stop listening to your false preachers and study for yourself. You’re not going anywhere people!! Jesus is returning here to do away with evil once and for all and will make His Kingdom here on earth!
Leslie, well done, couldn't resist ... surprise for sure ... Scripture reveals 'hope' is actually more clearly translated from the Greek as 'anticipation' 51 times in the N.T. The other 7 times it is 'expected, or expecting." Thus, believers are encouraged to be daily anticipating Jesus' Shout, '... especially as you see the day approaching.' (Heb. 10:25). His Shingle is out now …
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@chrishawkins2759 Pre-wrath at the sixth seal is post-trib. The “wrath” that the Church is not appointed unto is the “orge” wrath only per the original Greek. This wrath is only mentioned 6 times in Revelation and is always in a post-trib context (cf. 1 Thess. 5:9; Rev 6:16-17; 11:18; 14:10; 16:19; 19:15). Remember, Revelation is written Semitically, not chronologically. There is recapitulation throughout the book. John writes about the Second Coming of Christ after the great tribulation more than once (eg. Rev 6-7, Rev 10-11, Rev 14, Rev 19-20). There’s a reason why it’s called The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
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Yes the rapture is in the Bible.
Revelation 3:10
Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.
1Thessalonians 5:9-10 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep we might live with him.
1 Thessalonians 4:17
(THEN) we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Luke 21:36
But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to (ESCAPE) all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
1 Thessalonians 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath (TO COME).
Let's go over this, shall we?
"Yes the rapture is in the Bible."
Correct, but it ain't pretrib!
"Revelation 3:10 Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep you from the hour of trial that is coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth."
This is your FIRST verse you post?! This verse is not talking about the Rapture AT ALL! If you think it does, it's because some preacher CONNED you into that interpretation. The word "keep" mean to GUARD, not to Rapture you out of here. And "the hour of temptation (KJV)" is NOT what that same preacher told you it was. You can't claim the hour of temptation is linked to an Antichrist or the Mark of the Beast or anything else. You don't know that. It's just a false assumption made by PreTrib Dispensationalists who use eisegesis to make there false theology sound right.
"1Thessalonians 5:9-10 9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 who died for us so that whether we are awake or asleep we might live with him."
And this is your SECOND go to verse?! This doesn't prove a Rapture. It just proves you don't understand the word "wrath". All this verse is saying is that we won't go through the 7 Vials, which are "the wrath of God" according to Revelation 15:1, 15:7, and 16:1. We get raptured "at the last trump" just before those 7 Vials. That ain't "PreTrib". It's Post Trib!
"1 Thessalonians 4:17 (THEN) we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
THIS should have been your FIRST go to verse.
"Luke 21:36 But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to (ESCAPE) all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
How does this verse prove a Rapture?! It doesn't. But you're using it trying to prove "immanency" which is just NOT there in the Bible AT ALL. I'm more awake than you! I'm ready for the Rapture! But I know it'll be Post Trib.
"1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath (TO COME)."
Again, this verse doesn't prove a Rapture at all. Your biggest mistake here is your belief that the Seals and Trumpets are "the wrath of God". They're not! Go read Revelation 15:1, 15:7, and 16:1. Only the Vials are God's Wrath and they happen AFTER "the last trump" when we get Raptured.
Eman… excellent post.
Great Bible proofs.
I guess Anti-Rapture people are choosing to stay behind.
Hopefully Jesus gives them a second chance to be raptured up in A mid Tribulation Rapture or an End of Tribulation Rapture to receive their imperishable body, right before the church comes back with Jesus to destroy the wicked and save the Jews to set up a Millennium Kingdom for a thousand years.
Revelation 17:14, Revelation 19:14-16, Daniel 11:36, Zachariah 14:5.
Revelation 20.
That’s not what “the rapture” is, and there’s more that we base it and even other end times ideas. Revelations has to be read in context and a couple of verses elsewhere assume the *modern* ideas of inerrancy and literalism, more are not early or otherwise historic ideas.
Allegory and parables are also lost on people out of context.
He even gives it in this video..
though it still is doing all of the above- so much more learning and unpacking to do. Even Jews see the OT differently and some are still trying to learn the intent to be consistent.
Even beyond that, it’s important to understand that allegories in the Old Testament are not what we think.
Even extreme groups about the rapture don’t see most of the verses that are used as talking about it. Only see 1 Thessalonians he cited as supporting it. I’m sure people vary because the ones who were most intense about it before the last 7-8 years or so focused so much on staying in each book of the Torah for a year or two at a time and talking about it literally or whatever they came up with outside of Jewish understanding of underling meanings.
Good times.
Even Left Behind books- the author prefaces in first pages that it’s a work of fiction and isn’t necessarily supporting anything in the Bible.
This is still incredibly literal, out of context. Revelations is about Roman Empires persecution and the Jews and early Christians, and Paul or whomever wrote Thessalonians and others has a range of conflicting ideas, including thinking Jesus was coming back soon, at least when taking consistently literal. It’s important to not just believe what people tell you that you should or must believe.
@LaShayMcKeel-wc3mf The Book is called "Revelation". No wonder you're a Preterist. Your hermeneutic is horrible. When you reject what is literally said in favor of allegory, you make God a liar. You mislead and deceive by pushing Preterism.
@@LaShayMcKeel-wc3mf You have every right to decide that you want to go through the Tribulations and stay behind and go through the torturing wrath, so you can receive a better resurrection…however don’t keep trying to deceive others into going through it with you.
Others believe in the Rapture/1Resurrection and we are going to meet Jesus in the clouds to go home with him to Heaven, like he promised. 1Thess 1:10, 1Thess 4:13-18, 1Thess 5:9, John 14:1-3.
Good luck making it through without caving into Anti-Christ, the tortures, earthquakes, plagues, pestilence, starvation, bloody water, beheadings, being sawed in half, etc…
Paul warned us not to want to go through this.
Hebrews 11:35-40 says…
There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated- 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground. 39 These were all commended for their faith, yet NONE of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something BETTER for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
Hebrews 11:35-40
You can only be made perfect through Jesus and what he has already done for us.
He is enough.
I wish we’d all been reading (contextually).
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"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of the trumpet, and they shall gather his elect from the four winds , from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew 24:31
In context, what precedes this?
the tribulation, where Christians get mass murdered for the faith in Jesus Christ. before that are pestilences, earthquakes, wars and rumors of war and nation against nation. so due to Matthew 24 the fig tree seems to ripe now....meaning JESUS is coming soon :) @@kimberlyboldt5213
Yes, but the whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"!
Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right
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Yes....I do agree with you. It's very important for all to read and study scripture, the word of God. We need to rejoice and pray without ceasing. Our faith is in our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
@@kimberlyboldt5213 If you are going to ask for context here, then why are you not asking the man who made the video for context on I Corinthians 15? The context there is the inability for sinful flesh to receive the kingdom, but that we must have our heavenly bodies. Then it says that we who are left when the dead in Christ are raised will "be changed, in an instant"...changed to what? you might ask. Changed into the heavenly bodies from our earthly bodies. Kind of sounds like a rapture to me.
Yep good video! The parable of the wheat and tares goes against the rapture doctrine. So does Psalms 37. This rapture doctrine has been very destructive to America's "Christian" community.
Yes, caught up and twinkling of an eye is close enough for me.
I have been in the church all my conscious life. I have never heard this. I am actually quite disturbed to hear this.
For more information about Heaven coming to earth rather than us going to heaven I recommend the books "Simply Christian" or "Simply Jesus" by N.T. Wright. It was really the first time I had heard this ideas as well. The books aren't just about that, but they both have that as a theme.
Check out Joel Richardson. He is a good teacher.
Stand firm for another 20-30 months.
@@nothanks6549 Do we not go to heaven upon death as believers in Christ?
@@Ampwich Yes. As I see in the scriptures. "We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:8) "For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart (physically die and leave) and be with Christ, which is far better." (Philippians 1:23) Yet, all those who those Christians who died in Christ will return with Him to rule and reign in Jerusalem at the resurrection of all the saints with their glorified bodies.
I appreciate the spirit which the video takes. I'm not a big fan of Christians beating each other up. I would like you to consider a few things. The words used in 1 Thes 4:17 are "catching away", to describe the event; "harpazo" in greek, "rapere" in latin. This is where we get the "rapture" nickname. Calling it the "catching away", doesn't stick as well, I guess. Secondly, if the passage is about "Jesus returning to rule the earth", why does Paul introduce the topic earlier in the book by saying, "They tell how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead - Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath," 1 Thes 1:9b-10?
I don't know why we do this. Well what you did here and I did and others.. as if he does not know this already? Yeah this sits alone has been making videos for 9+ years so this it not new. To say in 2024 Rapture is not in the bible duh we all it refers to Caught up. Its so misleading and then look at what it has done. Caused more division.
It's not beating up on each other when other Christians quote scripture to defend the faith. If Paul was here, he would be all over the comment section and Jude would agree with him. "You should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints." Jude 3 RC
Why is the Greek harpazo not enough? Why do you want to go into LATIN? (Catholic and referring to their 'mary') .
@@time_2_get_ready it's funny but true - but it is also sad. The reason for using Greek and Latin here is because brothers and sisters in Christ do not receive the English as authoritive enough to convince them that there is a rapture and not everyone in the church will be caught up not because they are not Christian but simply because they do not believe Jesus will come to save them from the wrath of God and the wrath of the lamb.
The coming wrath we are rescued from is the return of Christ. He returns to judge and wage war in a flaming fire on the unbelievers, and those who did not obey him, the tribulation is judgment for sin. Yes, Jesus died to forgive us for our sins, but we were never exempt from the consequences of sin.
Thank you for speaking the biblical truth. Its truly amazing how blind some people are. Its going to be so sad when the rapture doesn't happen and people fall away from GOD. Thus, scripture will be fulfilled. Thank you again for speaking the truth. There are some of us true christians that aren't deceived by this false doctrine.
Your confusing Christ's second coming to fulfil the new covenant and rule with the nation Israel (Acts 1:6) with the taking away (rapture) of the church "the body of Christ" 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6
Timeline Deception. There is evidence the time of Christ's Reign has already happened.
you are confusing the antichrists as being Israel
In the era of Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindsey I was a young charismatic. I never bought into the rapture hysteria, it all seemed “too cute by half.” Then about thirty years ago I read a book (They Blessed Hope) that gave an orthodox explanation of the second coming. I’m glad that the original orthodox view is returning, especially in this time of a rise in Christian nationalism and Christian Zionism.
AMEN!!!
The orthodox view is not biblically sound and pretty much denies the old testament and new testament prophecies.
Strongly recommend reading the New Testament, especially Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Books by men are their opinion, God's Word is truth.
Don’t lump Christian nationalism with Christian Zionism. The first is concerned with creating a safe state where we can practice our faith free from increasing persecution. The second are heretics who don’t care about fellow believers and worships the state of Israel, while it murders their brothers in the faith and persecute Christians.
They've reather easily blended the automobiles (Rev 13:1) into their doctrines.
Once I got past the comment about my hometown of Portland I found this very helpful and presented well. Thank you, and honestly Portland is a bit weird but mostly in a good way.
I love Portland and it’s weirdness.
The important thing is this: It will be the End of the Evil non-believers, but only the beginning for true believers🙏🏼when Jesus appears.
There's also only 2 resurrections not 3. One resurrection of the righteous and 1 of the unrighteous.
I mean, 1Cor 15:52 does say we will be transformed at Christ’s return in the twinkling of an eye.
And the 1Thess 4:17 passage does reference the rapture “caught up”
So it is in the Bible… it’s just probably not what many think.
The 1Cor reference doesn’t support anything about people mysteriously disappearing to avoid tribulation.
The 1Thess is discussed in the video.
The subject matter in 1st Thessalonians 4 is in verse 13 where when Jesus Christ overcame death those that were asleep with him they're already in heaven on the right or the left side of the gulf noted in Luke 16:26
yup, & that change from physical to spiritual IS the "rapture" part of the first resurrection. for some reason, folks want to conflate various understandings of what "rapture" really means. just because it's not secret doesn't mean it doesn't occur Biblically. ;-)
No it's not anything like what is taught people are not going to just dissappear. There is no such thing.
@@infinityBBC Rapture is not in the KJV Bible the checkout 1 Corinthians 15 verse 51 and 52 we change into the spiritual body at the 7th Trump Revelation 11:15 and it's noted in 1 Corinthians 1544 we have two bodies we have a fresh body and we have a spiritual body inside our flesh body which we turn into either when we die or when we make to the 7th trunk. When we die we go straight to the gulf in Luke 16:26 and the Lord decides if we go to the right side where Lazarus went with Abraham in his bosom and he's with Jesus or we go to the left side a holding area for people that didn't overcome and didn't keep the ten commandments. There is no such thing as Rapture God condemns the Rapture and Ezekiel 13 versus 18 - 21 in the KJV Bible he hates it when fake teachers hunt souls to make people fly
Spot on. Been saying this for years. I held the dispensational view for years, and even taught it as a young minister. then I started studying and reading the major theologians and ancient church views. I had an emotional letting go of my view, it was hard.
Well take yourself back to fasting and praying...You have been saying this for years..but the Holy Spirit hasn't ..
@@VinnySuccessJesusfam Thank you for your concern. The Holy Spirit spoke to the church fathers and patristics for hundreds of years before the rapture was even a consideration in 1830. I assume they didn’t all miss the HS’s leading. A good principle for studying the Scriptures: “it cannot mean anything to us it did not mean to them (1st century audience).” If the rapture is a picture of hope for an audience thousands of years in the future, and it was written to a first century audience going through an unbelievable persecution…but it has no prophetic weight for their own hope, I think perhaps we’ve missed the point of the passages in modern times. It must mean something for the first century Messiah community.
If it left you with peace in your heart then you know it was from God...which by your explanation it would seem that it didn't.
My man, the "rapture" is the resurrection of the dead in Christ no matter if you think its pre. mid or post trib. Its all the rapture/Reassertion of the Saints in Christ. Anytime someone starts telling you there is no "rapture" in the Bible you can stop listening because they are speaking absolute foolishness and illustrating they should not be discussing the topic.
A serious and studied Bible student/teacher will ALWAYS say I don't believe in a pre or mid or post trib rapture. They will NEVER......NEVER say "There is no rapture"
That is embarrassingly foolish. They deny their own resurrection.
@@ExperienceEric Agreed. Paul’s language in 1 Thessalonians 4 is of the resurrection. Exactly. Do you think that’s the same as the belief that the rapture is a 7 year window of time in heaven around a banquet table while a Jewish remnant is being persecuted in the earth? That’s where I deviate from the modern understanding of the rapture.
‘The dead in Christ shall rise first and those who remain shall meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord’!
As a believer, I try to put the scriptures I don't fully understand on a side burner, until I can decern them later. I try not to get too worked up about them until that time. Thank you for this enlightening explanation. Quite interesting.
I used to do that too. Trouble is, that side-burner is now chocked full. 2,000 years on and still debating fundamental Bible teachings/accounts. How much longer do we have to wait to know 'the truth that sets us free'?
My understanding is, you do not have to wait. Christ Jesus said HE IS the TRUTH. If you are in Christ you ARE free. His blood purifies us completely and frees us from sin and ALL unrighteous. IMO that is good news. @@DM-he1ug
The whole point is that Christ comes only AFTER the tribulation... There is no whisking away of people in order to prevent them from facing persecution. We are told, in scripture, that we are to expect persecution and even death for the sake of Christ! "You will be persecuted and some of you will even be killed for my name's sake, but he who endures to the end will win the crown of eternal life"!
Thinking that we will be whisked away before the tribulation is a deception, designed to make people fall away from Christ if this false hope is not being realized. Or, they might falsely believe that they could never be confronted with the mark of the beast and therefore just take it anyway, because, they are not supposed to be here when the mark gets rolled out, right?
So our blessed hope is going through the tribulation. The Tribulation is about the Jews not the church.
@@schlix101 Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night". Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch? In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12: 11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,RETURNS to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know the prophecies of Daniel? I can prove they did.Why would Jesus quote Daniel 12 in the first place? So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? WHY should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,explain that?
In Luke 17, 35,36,"One is taken (not killed). In the original Greek, from para lambano, to receive from,. The other left,from apo hiemi, left alone,sent away. Also not necessarily killed. One is received,or taken,one is left behind. Now this is an important little detail..Luke 17:37,The apostles ask "WHERE" when Jesus says they were taken,or received(unto someone). WHERE were they taken? Jesus doesn't answer that. For those who say this has to do with the invasion of Jerusalem,when Titus destroyed the temple, they're wrong. According to O.T. prophecy about the Messiah,was he supposed to leave,and then come back? No.In fact,alot of what Jesus was teaching just didn't make sense to them. So Luke 17:35 makes sense. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31.
Point 2,Jesus taught this in Matt.24:Matt.24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, SO ALSO WILL THE COMING of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. Verse 40,this is the rapture. They're taken (away),not killed. This prophecy was not fulfilled in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed the temple. So,here's another scriptural contradiction,Rev.6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky [i]receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, ]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” See that? These people ARE aware that God's judgment is upon them,and they're terrified! And this is just the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus taught He would return just BEFORE the judgment comes, and this has to be PRE Trib.
It's absurd to believe that people will be eating and drinking (eating and drinking what? With all the famines,plagues, earthquakes,1/3 of all the green grass burned away,1/3 of the ocean dies,even if there is food in certain areas,1/3 pf all the ships destroyed.And this in just one of the trumpet judgments!) making plans to get married,and see their children grow up and marry?! Just how reasonable is it to believe that people will be living their lives,business as usual,and making plans for their future,when literally billions are dying?! Matt.25:“ is post text to what Jesus had just taught. So the parables are about how we are to apply what we know when we begin to see "ALL these things" coming together. 1.At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP. At WHAT time?! The time just before the rapture! You really believe the church will fall asleep during the tribulation? In Rev.13,the Antichrist is killing Christian all over the world. But the church falls asleep!!!? These saints are not the church. In part,they are the 144000 from the 12 tribes of Israel. And didn't Jesus promise the gates of hell will never prevail against the church. He didn't say up until the tribulation,then the Antichrist will destroy the church.And when John prophesy's this in Rev.13, he doesn't say persecute the saints, he writes conquers or destroys. That's different.
Yes! it's true that the WORD Rapture isn't in the Bible. However in 1 Thessalonians chapter vs 13-18 it speaks of the catching away which in the greek is pronounced harpodzo when translated to english is pronounced Rapture.
So what
@@mikepiccolo32 So, denying the theology of the rapture simply because the word is not present would be like denying the "trinity" simply because that word is not used. The teaching is there and the word used is a helpful handle.
@@DonaldFry-es7tz At Matthew 24:29,30 there it describes Jesus as coming on the clouds with great glory after the tribulation not prior as many believe will be there escape of the coming destruction of the wicked.How can this be? Jesus was sent by God to give us Gods message of salvation he is not God.Who was Jesus God?John 17:3
User, 'rapture' haies from Jerome's 4th Century Latin coinage for the Greek 'harpazo', our English 'caught up,' rendered as 'rapiemur' in I Thess. 4:17. Derived from the root word 'rapio', Jerome used other derivations in his translation, such as 'raptus' and 'raptum', The Lord willing, shall do a deep dive on the variations of usage in the N.T. Terry, TL Farley Books
Thank you so much! I left behind dispensational theology along time ago. This is a great, easy way to break it down and I hope that people listen and look things up themselves and understand that there’s not a biblical support for the idea! Thank you thank you, thank you!
Too bad. Satan must have gotten to you too.
Its NOT in revelation? LETS SEE.. Revelation 7: 9-16 " After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:
“Amen! Praise and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God for ever and ever. Amen!”
13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes-who are they, and where did they come from?”
14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
And he said, “These are they who have COME OUT of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,
“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence.
16 ‘Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,’[a]
nor any scorching heat. "
Revelation 14 "Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads. 2 And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps. 3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. 4 These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they remained virgins. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among mankind and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb. 5 No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless."
Theres more but they are easy to assume that its referring to those who already are in heaven and been there for time.
@@vladgor4099you need some help with interpreting the Bible my friend. Lol
@@MjandDilly23 Thank you, i definitely do, we all do. None of us even have the faith the size of a mustard seed or we would be able to tell mountains to move and they would move.
But i would ask, as a brother in Christ, to challenge my view instead of just walking away. Because if you believe you’re truly right, then tell me and try to convince me, the same way i’m trying to do to you.
Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36
And what about Rev 5, before the opening of the FIRST seal....
Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
(Did you see?? "Redeemed us to GOD" from every nation, kindred and tongue?)
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
The 24 elders are in heaven with Jesus, before the opening of the seals. Who is the 24 elders? In verse 9 we read: "for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" Who is redeemed from every tongue, people and nation?
Anyway.... the great tribulation is actually just for Israel for rejecting Jesus the first time. The scripture makes that clear as day.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
As a Christian, I never knew about a rapture. We were taught that when Jesus comes down to earth, He will judge who are the righteous and who are not.
That judgment will be at the end of the tribulation - the sheep and goat Judgment.
Are you not still a Christian. Christians start out as baby Christins, but they should grow as they read and study the Word. The Spirit of God is the real teacher. We can learn from good Bible teachers, but we should diligently check the scriptures to be sure they are correct.
From what I understand, that's Jesus's second coming.
@@Eman-vp5wk Nothing's going to happen.
@@1995dodgetruck Don't want to put down your religion but "scripture" is man-made.
Amen finally someone who understands.
The Rapture is a Zionist conspiracy using Christianity to install the Jewish Messiah in the rebuilt Temple. This Jewish Messiah will then smite "pagan" Christianity from the planet. The fact that the Messiah has already been tells us exactly who the Jewish Messiah is.
Still so much to unpack beyond this. Only a part of one piece. Revelations has to be read in context and a couple of verses elsewhere assume the *modern* ideas of inerrancy and literalism, more are not early or otherwise historic ideas.
Allegory and parables are also lost on people out of context.
He even gives it in this video..
though it still is doing all of the above- so much more learning and unpacking to do. Even Jews see the OT differently and some are still trying to learn the intent to be consistent.
Even beyond that, it’s important to understand that allegories in the Old Testament are not what we think.
Even extreme groups about the rapture don’t see most of the verses that are used as talking about it. Only see 1 Thessalonians he cited as supporting it. I’m sure people vary because the ones who were most intense about it before the last 7-8 years or so focused so much on staying in each book of the Torah for a year or two at a time and talking about it literally or whatever they came up with outside of Jewish understanding of underling meanings.
Good times.
Even Left Behind books- the author prefaces in first pages that it’s a work of fiction and isn’t necessarily supporting anything in the Bible.
This is still incredibly literal, out of context. Revelations is about Roman Empires persecution and the Jews and early Christians, and Paul or whomever wrote Thessalonians and others has a range of conflicting ideas, including thinking Jesus was coming back soon, at least when taking consistently literal. It’s important to not just believe what people tell you that you should or must believe.
HE'S DEAD WRONG, don't let him lead you astray...He's very ignorant and I hope he finds the TRUTH before it's too late.
It is in the Bible. The church isn't mentioned during the 7 year great tribulation.
HE THAT HATH AN EAR.
Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Revelation 2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Revelation 3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
7 IN ALL.
AND AFTER THAT WE ONLY HEAR:
Revelation 13:9 If "any man" have an ear, let him hear.
Why not say likewise to the church? Because it is not here!
Irrelevant. Its lack of being mentioned does not mean it is not there. The Church is Israel and Gentile believers (see Romans 11:18-24 and Ephesians 2:11-22).
@@bobrolls3800 Your comment is Irrelevant. What Christ say to Peter?
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT
Can God lie? No He cannot!
You haven't studied enough under The Holy Spirit to make such a claim. You do not explain the Scriptures you use.... One Scripture DOES NOT MAKE A DOCTRINE.
So back to Matthew 16:18
and compare to
Revelation 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
and even more so:
Daniel 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn MADE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, and PREVAILED AGAINST THEM.
And
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
All The Martyrs are in Heaven, and the 144,000 Jews are sealed before the 7 trumpets begin.
Revelation Chapter 7.
I can write all about what Transpires in Revelation, but a man unconvinced Against his will... is unconvinced still. Here is easy Proof if you are able to make the connection:
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Notice Day is SINGULAR not as in days.
when is that Day????? and where do we see it in Revelation??????
Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and "hast redeemed" us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Redeemed is PAST TENSE so the Day of the churches Redemption is Past which means after Chapter 3 of Revelation the Church was Raptured and the BEMA SEAT of Christ is past... The crowns the 24 elders wear are NOT DIADEMS and Diadems are Kings crowns, the elders wear Stephanos Crowns which are rewards crowns of which there are 5 different ones. Are you getting it yet?
Have a nice day!
@@bobrolls3800 the rapture still happens before the great Tribulation
What's also interesting is in In the Bible, Matthew 5:5 states, "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth". Which means Earth will always be our home.
I recall a sermon from years ago from a pastor who said something similar. He said Christians would be here for the tribulations and that God doesn't necessarily remove his people, he protects them in the midst of trials and tribulations. He was saying that some Christians had abandoned the work of spreading the gospel to save others thinking they would be removed but that wasn't the case. I wish I could remember his name.
That is why the 144k are sealed. Jesus only picks out 144 thousand of us. We are protected but the rest are killed by the Anti-Christ.
Read up about John Nelson Darby in the late 1800's and how our notions about end times eschatology started with him. For most of the 2000 years of church history -the church AT LARGE has never believed in a Rapture or a Tribulation, that is until Darby introduced the notion and Scofield ratified it in commentary form at the bottom of the bible page. The western church has been reading into the bible the ideas from these men and not interpreting scripture from other scripture. For me, Dispensationalism has been "Left Behind."
@@hoelenchilada So you know for a fact that not one Christian believed what the Thessalonians believed centuries after that book was written? Wow that's a lot of foreknowledge.
@@seanc2788 I edited it and don't be an ass.
Shepherds, chapel
Matthew 12:: 40. Belly of a whale. Matthew ch 24 is not a rapture reference, as you state, so as someone who believes in the pre tribulation, your argument is irrelevant. The tribulation is God's wrath poured out upon the World and we are not subject to God's wrath. Anyone who believes that Christians will go through the tribulation should listen to Dr Andy Woods, Robert Breaker, Yankee Arnold, Charles Lawson and Gene Kim. This fellow seems like a sincere person but he is wrong.
As one who has studied the Greek NT for 35 years now, I thank you for this video. There's a few items we differ on, but basically calling 'skubelon' on the rapture is something we can agree on. All-too-often the rapture theory culminates in the Jewish temple being rebuilt and animal sacrifices being reinstated. This resumption of animal sacrifices goes against quite a bit of the book of Hebrews (among other places, including Jesus' words) AND, more importantly it minimises the sacrifice of Jesus, Himself. In other words, the Cross wasn't all that and a bag of chips. It will take resumption of the 'blood of bulls and goats' -- and is something most adherents to the rapture theory haven't thought through. So, again, thanks! I don't have to teach this again and again. I can simply direct folks here!
HOw does the Rapture fact necessitate your sacrifices?
My man, the "rapture" is the resurrection of the dead in Christ no matter if you think its pre. mid or post trib. Its all the rapture/Reassertion of the Saints in Christ. Anytime someone starts telling you there is no "rapture" in the Bible you can stop listening because they are speaking absolute foolishness and illustrating they should not be discussing the topic.
A serious and studied Bible student/teacher will ALWAYS say I don't believe in a pre or mid or post trib rapture. They will NEVER......NEVER say "There is no rapture"
That is embarrassingly foolish. They deny their own resurrection.
@r.f.pennington746
And I've been for over 40 years now.
This teacher claims dispensationalist won't teach out of Matt.24,or Luke 17,21. Thats not true,not at all. Jack Van Impe and Chuck Missler did. Many others have.Should I give him the benefit of the doubt that he's unaware, because it seems he's purposely trying to mislead people? Here's my teaching,as I studied under these guys,for decades,and others,and I am a Premillenial Dispensationalist. I've also been trained in Greek and Hebrew exegesis,and biblical hermeneutics.
In Luke 17, 35,36,"One is taken (not killed). In the original Greek, from para lambano, to receive from,. The other left,from apo hiemi, left alone,sent away. Also not necessarily killed. One is received,or taken,one is left behind. In verse 37, the word "vulture" is mistranslated in the original manuscript.The Greek word is aeotos,which is clearly "eagles" ,not vultures. This verse is still a mystery,what does it mean? Because Eagles do not gather around dead bodies,eagles eat live prey. And the people of Jesus day,which was an agrarian society,knew this. It was purposely mistranslated because apparently the translators knew that only vultures gather around dead bodies. But it's there in Luke 17amd Matt.24,purposely written down as Eagles,not vultures. But here's the thing he missed.Luke 17:37,The apostles ask "WHERE" when Jesus says they were taken,or received(unto someone). WHERE were they taken? Jesus doesn't answer that. But those who say taken means killed,they're wrong. The apostles wouldn't ask 'where"if they understood it was killed.
Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night".
Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. So now,be the first Post Trib believer in over three decades of my experience debating the rapture, to answer this question,and the other points I'll bring. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch?
In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12:
11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,returns to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know this prophecy? Well the Pharisees surely did. So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? Why should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,please tell me?
Now Luke 17:35 makes sense,get it. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31.
But there it is,Jesus quoted Daniel 12,and 1335 days after the "abomination of desolation, Jesus will return. Why watch for it? How can He come when nobody knows?
Point 2,Jesus taught this in Matt.24:Matt.24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, SO ALSO WILL THE COMING of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Verse 40,this is the rapture. They're taken (away),not killed. This prophecy was not fulfilled in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed the temple.
So,here's another scriptural contradiction,Rev.6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky [i]receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, ]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
See that? These people ARE aware that God's judgment is upon them,and they're terrified! And this is just the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus taught He would return just BEFORE the judgment comes, and this has to be PRE Trib.
It's absurd to believe that people will be eating and drinking (eating and drinking what? With all the famines,plagues, earthquakes,1/3 of all the green grass burned away,1/3 of the ocean dies,even if there is food in certain areas,1/3 pf all the ships destroyed.And this in just one of the trumpet judgments!) making plans to get married,and see their children grow up and marry?! People living their lives,business as usual,during the tribulation? No way!
One last thing.The Rapture is NOT Jesus returning to set up His kingdom. That does happen at the end of the tribulation period,ok? The rapture is US,the Church, being taken away into the cloud to be with Jesus. And then,the wedding feast of the lamb will begin,while the tribulation begins on Earth.And,further confirmation of this is in Matt.25,the parable of the bridesmaids. Remember,the ones who ran out of oil were left out of the wedding feast?
Here's the last thing, in post trib,what event signifies the tribulation has begun? Give me an answer. In pretrib,it's the rapture that begins the tribulation period. And the rapture itself,IS a judgment being pronounced upon the world.
Did the apostles know what the church was when Jesus taught "Upon this rock I shall build my church,and the gate of hell shall never prevail against it"? No! They didn't know what the church was. That word ecclesia meant "called out ones". Who was that? Did they know the church would be mostly gentiles,under a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant? No. Not for decades. Only Paul had the "mystery"of the church and the rapture revealed to him.Thirty plus years later. Only the writer of Hebrews knew there was going to be a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant. Because the new covenant was for gentiles,the church. So,in the Olivet discourse,in three of the gospels, when Jesus taught about His returning,they,and everyone listening to Jesus,who knew the prophets, had no clue about the rapture.Because they didn't have a clue about what the church was! They only knew the Day Of the Lord,which comes at the end of the tribulation. Everyone who followed Jesus was looking for the Messiah to come and set up His kingdom reign. Now look up Revelation 13,5-8. There's another contradiction,one that breaks the promise Jesus made about the church. The Antichrist is given power and authority to conquer,or destroy,the "saints". Did Jesus teach "the gates of hell shall never prevail ...oh,but only until the Antichrist is revealed. No,he made a promise.
These 'saints",or holy people in the Greek,are not the church. And in part,must be the 144 thousand from the 12 tribes of Israel.
Now the post text of Matt.24 is Matt.25.
Matt.25:“At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they ALL became drowsy and FELL ASLEEP. At What time?! The time just before the rapture! How can this be at the end of tribulation? The church is going to "fall asleep"?
In Rev.6,at the sixth seal,the world knows their under God's judgment. So how can the churches not know?
Wow! 35 years of Greek and missed the Bible. Also totally missed what people who follow prophecy are actually saying. Sad for you.
BTW, you might want to read my post explaining why this guy totally missed the mark.
@@lufknuht5960
Jesus taught He could come at any time so we,the church,should be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs that He taught in the gospels. This is the doctrine of imminency. And the apostles also taught this in the epistles. Matt.24:43,1 Thess.5:2, 2 Peter 3:10. Jesus can come like "a thief in the night".
Jesus also commanded us to keep watch over all the signs of His coming in Matt.24. It wasn't a suggestion,it is an instruction. It wasn't just to know when the "season"was upon us,and who "the generation" that sees "ALL these things" ,will be. Matt.25,the parables being taught,are post text to Matt.24. So now,if you believe in Post trib,be the first Post Trib believer in over three decades of my experience debating the rapture, to answer this question,and the other points I'bring. WHY should we watch over the signs of His coming? If we know when that time is,with certainty,why keep watch?
In a post rib view,there is no imminency. Why,because the number of days is specifically mentioned in Daniel12:
11 “And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.This is confirmed in Rev.13:5. Now,Jesus directly referred to the "abomination"in Daniel. There is no Jesus can return at any time,so we have to keep watch and be ready,in post trib. All we have to do is wait for the Antichrist to enter the temple and perpetrate the abomination,and the countdown begins. 1335 days when the "abomination"takes place,and the daily sacrifices are abolished,and the Messiah,who is Jesus,returns to set up His kingdom reign. There's no arguing this,it's right there plain as day. Jesus directly quoted this verse in Daniel 12. Do you think the Jews didn't know this prophecy? Well the Pharisees surely did. So why would Jesus teach that He could come at any time? Why should we "be sober and alert,keeping watch over the signs of His coming,please tell me?
Now Luke 17:35 makes sense,get it. You can see why the apostles ask Jesus "where" are they taken! According to what the Jews knew from O.T. prophecy,the Messiah wasn't supposed to go anywhere.He was supposed to destroy Israel's enemies and set up God's kingdom rule and reign.This is "the Day Of The Lord',that all Jews in Jesus time were already aware of,prophesied many times. The Day Of The Lord is described in these prophecies,and Jesus does mention them in the Olivet discourse,in Matt 24:29-31.
But there it is,Jesus quoted Daniel 12,and 1335 days after the "abomination of desolation, Jesus will return. Why watch for it? How can He come when nobody knows?
Point 2,Jesus taught this in Matt.24:Matt.24:38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, SO ALSO WILL THE COMING of the Son of Man be. 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Verse 40,this is the rapture. They're taken (away),not killed. This prophecy was not fulfilled in 70 A.D. when Titus destroyed the temple.
So,here's another scriptural contradiction,Rev.6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky [i]receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, ]the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
See that? These people ARE aware that God's judgment is upon them,and they're terrified! And this is just the beginning of the tribulation period. Jesus taught He would return just BEFORE the judgment comes, and this has to be PRE Trib.
It's absurd to believe that people will be eating and drinking (eating and drinking what? With all the famines,plagues, earthquakes,1/3 of all the green grass burned away,1/3 of the ocean dies,even if there is food in certain areas,1/3 pf all the ships destroyed.And this in just one of the trumpet judgments!) making plans to get married,and see their children grow up and marry?! People living their lives,business as usual,during the tribulation? No way!
One last thing.The Rapture is NOT Jesus returning to set up His kingdom. That does happen at the end of the tribulation period,ok? The rapture is US,the Church, being taken away into the cloud to be with Jesus. And then,the wedding feast of the lamb will begin,while the tribulation begins on Earth.And,further confirmation of this is in Matt.25,the parable of the bridesmaids. Remember,the ones who ran out of oil were left out of the wedding feast?
Here's another problem, in post trib,what event signifies the tribulation has begun? Give me an answer. In pretrib,it's the rapture that begins the tribulation period. And the rapture itself,IS a judgment being pronounced upon the world.
Did the apostles know what the church was when Jesus taught "Upon this rock I shall build my church,and the gate of hell shall never prevail against it"? No! They didn't know what the church was. That word ecclesia meant "called out ones". Who was that? Did they know the church would be mostly gentiles,under a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant? No. Not for decades. Only Paul had the "mystery"of the church and the rapture revealed to him.Thirty plus years later. Only the writer of Hebrews knew there was going to be a new covenant,that would abolish the old covenant. Because the new covenant was for gentiles,the church. So,in the Olivet discourse,in three of the gospels, when Jesus taught about His returning,they,and everyone listening to Jesus,who knew the prophets, had no clue about the rapture.Because they didn't have a clue about what the church was! They only knew the Day Of the Lord,which comes at the end of the tribulation. Everyone who followed Jesus was looking for the Messiah to come and set up His kingdom reign. Now look up Revelation 13,5-8. There's another contradiction,one that breaks the promise Jesus made about the church. The Antichrist is given power and authority to conquer,or destroy,the "saints". Did Jesus teach "the gates of hell shall never prevail ...oh,but only until the Antichrist is revealed. No,he made a promise.
These 'saints",or holy people in the Greek,are not the church. And in part,must be the 144 thousand from the 12 tribes of Israel.
QUESTION. Rev 19 : 6,7,8, says the Bride aka the church is in heaven preparing to return with Christ for the millennial reign the second coming, if no rapture how and when did the Bride get to heaven? Asking for a friend
Is it true that before 1800 those rapture verses were interpreted by the early church fathers as resurrection versus?
Margaret McDonald invented the Rapture in 1835 and two priests were standing next to and wrote it down and said hey we could use this. David McPherson wrote couple of books on it you could Google search him and check it out. God bless you
From what I understand, if you Don't believe in the rapture. God will oblige and you won't get rapture. God won't force on you what you don't believe. It takes faith to believe in God, it takes faith to believe in the rapture.
You are wrong the word harpazo that is Latin for being caught up being taken away that's what that's what Rapture means the Raptor is found in the Bible it's also in 1st Thessalonians 4:16 and 417 it's very obvious you don't know the word of God you're not born again you're not born again at all and you're going to end up eternally damned in hell because you're not saved you're not born again and you're denying scripture Letterman be a liar Jesus Christ is the truth you do not know scripture and you don't know God's word that's blatantly obvious by your stupidity no you're not born again brother you need to get born again you're denying scripture because the Rapture has always been there it's in the Latin translation and it's in 1st Thessalonians 4:16 and 417 get to know the Bible better
Yes, before an ex-Anglican Priest named John Nelson Darby came on the scene in the 1830's, a total of ZERO churches held these verses to mean anything other than the resurrection.
@@benstr8156 the word AIR in Greek #109 it means Breath of Life or spiritual body it's not atmosphere ! Nobody flies in the air. The word clouds in 1st Thessalonians 4:17 means a group of Christians gathered together you can read it in Hebrews 12:1.
Paul spoke colloquial Greek and when the Bible was translated into English there are up to four different meanings of each word so it's good to have a original doctor Strong's Concordance to look up each word in the bible.
God condemns the Rapture Theory and Ezekiel 13 verses 18 through 21 in the KJV Bible he hates it when fake teachers hunt souls to make people fly.
If you read those same verses in the new King James version or the NIV Satan's Children from Matthew 13 388 and 39 have changed the Bibles it doesn't even talk of hunting souls to make people fly it talks of birds flying in charms because that's what Satan's message is going to be when he comes in the clouds on a white horse in Revelation 6:2
Don't be deceived because the real Jesus Christ comes in Revelation 19:11 on a white horse we have to wait for the Lord which is what Psalms 130 talks about in Matthew 24 where there are two working in the field and one is taken that one taken is the antichrist. God bless
I'm a Christian and I hate the movie Left Behind for this very reason. I have a church friend who believes in Pre-Trib because of those books. I'm sharing this video on Facebook, thanks, Skye! :)
So you're a "christian"......my condolences.
Most solid Christians are pre trib..This teacher one of the best..ruclips.net/video/-lVcN9vsCbQ/видео.htmlsi=qQ29i1fV6_I-bYe- The Rapture - Chuck Missler - Session 1
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Too bad you didn't have a brain because Nothing fits with the Covenant of Grace the church being in the tribulation or the promises we have like Nothing fits at all nothing makes sense at all when you actually use your brain and think everything out with a post-trib Nothing fits but if you do it our way everything fits in harmony the sad part is you have to break everything down like teaching little babies because they can't see clearly and it's a lot of work majority are too prideful to even accept the clear truth when you display it
It won't make a difference. People believing in the rapture didn't base their belief on evidence.
@@ChrisTian-rm7zm I never saw that one. I was referring to Kirk Cameron's version.
Great teaching. Keep up the good work !
HE'S DEAD WRONG, don't let him lead you astray...He's very ignorant and I hope he finds the TRUTH before it's too late.
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"Putting too much authority into our traditions and assumptions"... boy, if that isnt the most succinct and telling definition Ive ever heard for what it means to be a Churchian. Great video, by the way, and very informative. Sadly, its all moot, since Jesus has already returned three times and Churchianity missed them all.
Good job breaking this down. Youre discernment on this topic is on point.
We also can't be here for Rev 9. Rev 7 has the signing on the foreheads of the 144000. In Rev 9, they are the only ones who are not hurt. The rest are hurt by what comes out of the ground. WE are sealed in our hearts. Ephesians. There is a rapture. 1 Thess 1 vs 10 also says we are not appointed to wrath.
@@shawnalLovesJesus the rapture is part of the second coming. Your understanding of wrath isn't being applied correctly biblically in time and context. The Tribulation isn't God's wrath.
@@glennlaporte4545 I think it could be that the way it actually happens isn't maybe quite like we think. We still can not be here for Rev 9.
@@shawnalLovesJesus that could be true I suppose. I'd have to look into it again.
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Yeah but he stills believes that there will be women GRINDING AT THE MILL when Christ returns ? In our modern world ? Is this a joke ?
There is nothing older than this female activity. Women used to grind the grain and turn it into floor. They would also make the bread for their whole family.
It is crystal clear that Jesus was referring to a CURRENT activity that cannot point to our modern era .
So , why did he says that they would be women doing this when he comes ? What does this mean ? Did not the Jews know what he meant ? They surely knew way better than us .
Same thing for Jesus washing the feet of his disciples and this old custom that modern heretics try to force on husbands from pulpits .
We western people are such idiots. We talk about things that we don't know.
Look at the end of Book of Revelation. Notice that we come BACK with Jesus. Then explain how we are coming back with him if we haven't been raptured.
Because those who were taken away were those essentially kidnapped by Roman authorities in 70 A.D.
I'm not trying to be snarky, but you obviously didn't read the end of the Book of Revelation, where we return with Christ. It has nothing to do with the siege of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.
@@jonathanblack5597 Honestly I can barely believe that is your support for the rapture doctrine. The simple observation that Christ returns with "holy ones." There are numerous explanations as to what this could mean and who precisely such "holy ones" could be... but based on your condescension I'd wager you believe yours is the only valid outlook.
Well presented! Will people go search the Bible for the truth? Probably not, but you have planted that seed of truth in their minds for the Holy Spirit to water and grow.
This man in the video is a liberal, if he denies the rapture He is denying God's word. 1 Thes 4:13-18 is very clear and Paul goes on to explain the timing in chapter 5. The Day of the Lord / Tribulation will not overtake us since we are not appointed to wrath.
@@Pastor_Grantyou are the one that has a problem. You have a veil over your eyes right now and are not seeing clearly. He explained this easily for you to look up and understand. You just want to be right more than you want the truth and that’s what you care about more. You are also scared instead of having faith in the Lord. Seek help
@@MjandDilly23 personal insults are a lousy refutation Paul and 1st Thessalonians 4 says the saints will be caught up the next few verses. He says concerning the time you know it happened suddenly like a thief in the night and the day of the Lord. The tribulation will not overtake you because you are not appointed to wrath.
Definition of rapture means to be caught up.
@@MjandDilly23 Jesus said "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.” in Luke 21:36 and in Rev 5:8-10 we read that the 24 elders, redeemed from the earth from every tongue, kindred and nation to God, is in heaven before opening of the FIRST seal.
If there is no rapture.... how did they get there and why would Jesus say watch and pray that you may escape all these things.
Also if Jesus says He will come like a thieve in the night, then it must be a rapture He is referring to, cause we know exactly when the second coming will be.... 1260 days after the abomination of desolation.
Holy Post, you stay here and take notes so that you can tell those who do what it was like when we get back.
Wondering if you'd let your bride wait seven horrifying years or would you come and receive her to yourself beforehand so she can be with you as you promised? 🤔
I'm not a proponent of the rapture... it seems like hogwash to me.. but what would you tell Christians in the middle east who are literally skinned alive to this day? Surely they are enduring a great tribulation regardless of whether or not it is depicted in the Bible.
Bride, You must be tested. Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord will enter., Only Martyrs and those tested to the point of death will Rule and Reign with Christ for 1000 years. He did not spare his son so you aren't worthy unless tested.
There is no 7 year tribulation either, the 70 weeks of Daniel are over, no gap between the 69th & 70th weeks to give you 7 years in the future. The 70th week was Messiah's ministry that was interrupted in the middle by His Crucifixion that ended the validity of the Temple sacrifices.
Although the temple sacrifices were continued after Jesus' perfect sacrifice, by the unbelieving Jews, they were an abomination that brought the desolation of the temple & city in 70 ad. The last 7 years were Messiah's ministry ending with the martyrdom of Stephen. The 7 year tribulation is a false doctrine.
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@@happyappy19931 psalm 2
Great to hear simple, clear, Biblical teaching on a subject that has sidetracked too many believers, and contributes to the message about Jesus sounding unbelievable. Thank you.
We also can't be here for Rev 9. Rev 7 has the signing on the foreheads of the 144000. In Rev 9, they are the only ones who are not hurt. The rest are hurt by what comes out of the ground. WE are sealed in our hearts. Ephesians. There is a rapture. 1 Thess 1 vs 10 also says we are not appointed to wrath.
The comparison to the flood is spurious. What Jesus talks about clearly sounds supernatural. Not like some natural catastrophe. It happens in an instant!
I accept the Apostle Paul’s words on the subject of the rapture in Thessalonians 4.
Wow! This is an excellent video on this topic!!! Very very well done.