When I first got one of these back in 2017, I took it apart and found that non user replaceable exhaust filter - I thought, this is going to be the built in obsolescence that kills these off, once that filter gets clogged up, exactly what you found on your machine will happen. I think the pre-motor filter pleated cone thingy is the weak link as they can split down one or more of the pleats and allow dust to pass staight through them - straight through the motor and clog up the filter that no one knows is even there, as you cant replace it without totally dismantling the machine, and then having to see if Miele will even supply the white plastic housing with the filter integrated into it. What an utter disaster of a machine these are - mine is back in its box never used after the first few uses. They are big bulky, ugly looking things that quite frankly should not even bear the Miele name - they are more like a cheap quality Bosch thats made in China. Stick to the bagged C3 or C2 is the best bet and make sure you service its filters, which you CAN get to on the bagged machines.
It's shocking really, even more so that you can't buy or easily change it! With a babied machine you'd probably be OK but one wrong move, one slip up and that's it game over 😂 Of course I'm now looking out for really silly cheap ones to see if it's a normal thing 😂👍
Good work Sam.I’ve seen these for sale used before and considered them.never actually bought one though The bird is on top form lately,and good on him,he wants some of the limelight bless him
I thought these looked alright but after seeing all the hard to access filters don't think I would want one (unless it's cheap) I seen the self cleaning filter is £50
The main filter is screwed to the top of the motor! It’s AU $280 just for the part, so when it starts to stink you can’t change it unless you get someone to pull the whole thing apart.
Thank you for this great video. That Miele is a TOTAL P.O.S. I have an old Miele canister vacuum Model S314 I bought used for $20 Canadian about 5 or 6 years ago which still runs well. The only problem it has is the cord doesn't reel in. I think the S314 is at least 20 years old and is probably more powerful than the current crop of Miele canister vacs which use a bag. I have seen videos of particle tests of this model of vacuum which show that it still filters perfectly to 0 particles in its exhaust. The dirt and the irreplaceable filters I see in that bagless Miele convinces me to never buy a Miele bagless vacuum.
I really loved our Blizzard after 3 or 4 Dysons, but it just « died », same problem as in your video… for which I´m thankful because I really wanted to buy another one. But what new model should I get, preferably without bag?
You do not want without bag, it is a bad concept, and you do not save money because it is without a bag, you just spend the money elsewhere on filters and/or time spend cleaning filters.
Yup! Keep the entire machine impeccably spotless and you might be OK, but one wrong move and it:s too late. Or just change a bag when it's full and carry on 🤔🤣
Wow that's shockingly bad! What a stupid design decision. I've said it before and I'll say it again - if you want any Miele appliance buy secondhand and make sure it's pre-2006. They went downhill from then on
Grim isn't it! You could do a better job with a nice square of hepaflo but you still shouldn't need to... Can't wait to pick a really cheap one up off marketplace and see what state its in with normal household use in the near future
Their OK if you stay away from plaster dust/talcum powder and keep the filters clean! I've refurbished a few now and their lovely when working right, but the bagless system can't take much more than household dirt!
1) Miele has a Hepa airclean livetime filter and cannot be replaced, but dust comes also on this filter, bad. What can couse a overheating motor, dust in the motor, motor break.
For a German Vacuum, it's really shocking that the design is so poor 👌 it's usually something like a Vax I'd expect this kind of thing to happen to, but definitely not a Miele. Could you convert one of these to take bags I wonder? 🤔
Especially not in a place you can't get to without massive warranty voidification, let alone be able to actually buy the part! Seems very silly and quite sad 😔
@@beko1987 I was a janitor for 27 years. I used many types of vacuum cleaners (including bagless). Yes, bagless vacs save money on the cost of bags, but in the long run it's a false economy. The fine talc like dust/grit eventually gets through & causes all sorts of mischief (that includes the motor). I never liked the extensive clean-up of bagless machines to keep them working properly. I much preferred just changing a bag. To me the bags are money well spent.
Hello Sam, I am from Holland. 1)Would it not be better if the hepa filter was put before the motor? Thats another design of course. 2) and would it not be better to remove the sponge from the machine? 3) and I see that you can replace the last filter with some sort of it? We all can see that this is not a livetime hepa airclean filter. And this for a 267 to 397 euro machine, Miele must do better!!! Not Miele is always better.
1) All vacuums I had seen inside have the HEPA filter after the motor, so there is most likely a technically reason for this, my guess is that you loos more suction power if the filter is before the motor. Could be that it is just a very nice place regarding filter change ?, and it can also act as a noise filter there. 2)No, in a bagless vacuum you need all the filtering you can get. Well it is lifetime HEPA filter if you use the vacuum as Miele had intended, only ordinary household dust, that is no fine dust what-so-ever, clean/exchange filters often, and oh boy out the window with the convenience of a bagless vacuum it is not there, they cost more time to clean and you still need to clean/change filters and that more often.
Yep I've done a few cx1's now. Pop the top trim piece off by the switches, and pop the switches off too (lever gently at the thin end of each) and undo the 4 screws and the switch pack lifts out. Then undo the casing screws (1 under each tool iirc) and lever the casing join by the bend in the design and it folds up and off at the front. Then all the white casing screws Inc the 2 holding the motor and that lifts off too 👍
@@beko1987 think that’s the blizzard isn’t it I got the boost the smaller bagless vacuum I need to replace the motor got as far as taking the casing off but can’t get the rest off
Yep the blizzard! The white housing lifts off the motor (the 2 screws through the rubber bungs hold the motor in). Once off its your boggo miele motor under there (sadly 😂). Can't imagine it'd be mega hard to bodge a Dyson motor in there...
If its dirt cheap and your prepared to wash the filter then yes their OK... Otherwise no, because whilst their OK their not great... I'd go for an older 90s bagged miele any day over this 😂
Another thing is that from the big plastic bag, the klep hinge is broken, also a weake thing. And that for that expensive machine. Miele must do better.
Very helpful video.I bought one of these just over 3 years ago and it has lived a charmed life,but recently the retractable cord has failed,very annoying! Shockingly, the few new ones still on the market are over double in price what I paid for mine a few years back.Good suction power but overall this is a cheap and nasty vacuum cleaner.I certainly would'nt buy another one of these.German engineering at it's worst!
If you have the exact right size of dust particles and ONLY THAT then I'm sure their fine! I did have one (did some vids on it) and did think of using it for 12v12m but even I'm not that cruel to myself! Sold for £150 on ebay though so someone loves them 😂
All bagless vacuums are bad, because they use a cyclone (Which is the principle for all bagless vacuum cleaners) is not capable of sorting the fine dust off in the same way a bag do in a bagged vacuum cleaner, it is just not technical/physically possible, so a bagless device has to have more and/or better post filters (filters after the "dust container"), and you will need to clean/exchange them more often, the motor may also be in a higher risk for more dust intrusion then a bagged device depending on motor design and/or filter placement in the suction/blowing chain. In the marketing department it is a big seller that you can save a ton of money on bags by going bagless, but you also may have to pay more for filters and may also end up spending more time cleaning your bagless vacuum cleaner, but your millage may vary. No matter if you go bagged or bagless you will have to change/clean filters (a bag is a filter too).
Hi Sam, at 6min in your video you said that was the Miele speed controller, it's actually the agitation motor for the spline design filter unit :)
0:20 thanks for the mention! 😁
I don’t miss mine at all! I just liked how quiet it was and the floor tool fitted to my 2200w S8 on full blast haha
Super video. Wouldn’t have been able to replace the power real (the most common fault with these things I’ve been reading) without it!!
Thanks for the video Sam, I was struggling with how to open up CX1, because the cable would not reel back in and your video helped a lot!!!
Thanks this was really helpful with fixing my cord reel, had to completely open up the machine just like you demonstrated. Thanks again!
Excellent, glad it helped! Once you know where and how hard to lever it it's not too bad is it 😂
When I first got one of these back in 2017, I took it apart and found that non user replaceable exhaust filter - I thought, this is going to be the built in obsolescence that kills these off, once that filter gets clogged up, exactly what you found on your machine will happen. I think the pre-motor filter pleated cone thingy is the weak link as they can split down one or more of the pleats and allow dust to pass staight through them - straight through the motor and clog up the filter that no one knows is even there, as you cant replace it without totally dismantling the machine, and then having to see if Miele will even supply the white plastic housing with the filter integrated into it. What an utter disaster of a machine these are - mine is back in its box never used after the first few uses. They are big bulky, ugly looking things that quite frankly should not even bear the Miele name - they are more like a cheap quality Bosch thats made in China. Stick to the bagged C3 or C2 is the best bet and make sure you service its filters, which you CAN get to on the bagged machines.
It's shocking really, even more so that you can't buy or easily change it! With a babied machine you'd probably be OK but one wrong move, one slip up and that's it game over 😂 Of course I'm now looking out for really silly cheap ones to see if it's a normal thing 😂👍
Is the c1 any good? Is it easy to replace motor on the c1? Thank you
After seeing this it will bagged Mieles for me!
Good work Sam.I’ve seen these for sale used before and considered them.never actually bought one though
The bird is on top form lately,and good on him,he wants some of the limelight bless him
I thought these looked alright but after seeing all the hard to access filters don't think I would want one (unless it's cheap) I seen the self cleaning filter is £50
Car air filter would do the trick i reckon
Awesome video Sam 👌👌👌
Fantastic video, love the enthusiasm, but very informative too.
The main filter is screwed to the top of the motor! It’s AU $280 just for the part, so when it starts to stink you can’t change it unless you get someone to pull the whole thing apart.
Thank you for this great video. That Miele is a TOTAL P.O.S. I have an old Miele canister vacuum Model S314 I bought used for $20 Canadian about 5 or 6 years ago which still runs well. The only problem it has is the cord doesn't reel in. I think the S314 is at least 20 years old and is probably more powerful than the current crop of Miele canister vacs which use a bag. I have seen videos of particle tests of this model of vacuum which show that it still filters perfectly to 0 particles in its exhaust. The dirt and the irreplaceable filters I see in that bagless Miele convinces me to never buy a Miele bagless vacuum.
I bought a Miele C3 with a broken cord reel and just replaced it with a new one I got for £14
I really loved our Blizzard after 3 or 4 Dysons, but it just « died », same problem as in your video… for which I´m thankful because I really wanted to buy another one. But what new model should I get, preferably without bag?
You do not want without bag, it is a bad concept, and you do not save money because it is without a bag, you just spend the money elsewhere on filters and/or time spend cleaning filters.
I'm kind of surprised it took this long for you to get one of these in. The Bagless design was purposely made bad.
They hold their value annoyingly well being miele... £150/100 is where they are atm and I don't want one that much yet 😂
I guess no one wants good vacuums anymore
how sacrilege would it be to stuff a Sebo Evolution exhaust filter in there?
They are absolutely mental!
Non-user-replaceable filters. Built in obsolescence.
Yup! Keep the entire machine impeccably spotless and you might be OK, but one wrong move and it:s too late. Or just change a bag when it's full and carry on 🤔🤣
Wow that's shockingly bad! What a stupid design decision. I've said it before and I'll say it again - if you want any Miele appliance buy secondhand and make sure it's pre-2006. They went downhill from then on
Grim isn't it! You could do a better job with a nice square of hepaflo but you still shouldn't need to... Can't wait to pick a really cheap one up off marketplace and see what state its in with normal household use in the near future
Sam is it kinda sad everything is cheap now?
when was s8 kona released?
What canister vacuum do you recommend for pet cleanup dogs and cats
3) And another item is the vacuum cleaner rod, the break on the rod is defect, bad Miele.
And the plastic cap breaks ease on the hinge.
Are these no good then? I've been on the look out for one for the bed rooms for a while now - got a C3 bagged hoover downstairs which does a job
Their OK if you stay away from plaster dust/talcum powder and keep the filters clean! I've refurbished a few now and their lovely when working right, but the bagless system can't take much more than household dirt!
@@beko1987is plaster dust wall dust from sanders?
@@FrenchFryCheese04 Yes, it is and it is nasty, all kind of sanding dust is not for household vacuums, especially bagless vacuums, it is a killer.
1) Miele has a Hepa airclean livetime filter and cannot be replaced, but dust comes also on this filter, bad. What can couse a overheating motor, dust in the motor, motor break.
For a German Vacuum, it's really shocking that the design is so poor 👌 it's usually something like a Vax I'd expect this kind of thing to happen to, but definitely not a Miele.
Could you convert one of these to take bags I wonder? 🤔
Any advice for best vacuum cleaners?
A 1980's Miele vacuum
My advice is to stay away from bagless vacuum cleaners.
Lifetime hepa filters are not a good idea in a vacuum.
Especially not in a place you can't get to without massive warranty voidification, let alone be able to actually buy the part! Seems very silly and quite sad 😔
Hello Sam how are you
Very well thanks, you?
@@beko1987 I was a janitor for 27 years. I used many types of vacuum cleaners (including bagless). Yes, bagless vacs save money on the cost of bags, but in the long run it's a false economy. The fine talc like dust/grit eventually gets through & causes all sorts of mischief (that includes the motor). I never liked the extensive clean-up of bagless machines to keep them working properly. I much preferred just changing a bag. To me the bags are money well spent.
2:19 I genuinely thought that sound was you on winding the cable, it doesn’t even sound like a motor. Even though it is LOL
Классно, спосибо, мне помогло в ремонте моего аппарата. ✌️👍
Hello Sam,
I am from Holland.
1)Would it not be better if the hepa filter was put before the motor? Thats another design of course.
2) and would it not be better to remove the sponge from the machine?
3) and I see that you can replace the last filter with some sort of it?
We all can see that this is not a livetime hepa airclean filter.
And this for a 267 to 397 euro machine,
Miele must do better!!!
Not Miele is always better.
1) All vacuums I had seen inside have the HEPA filter after the motor, so there is most likely a technically reason for this, my guess is that you loos more suction power if the filter is before the motor. Could be that it is just a very nice place regarding filter change ?, and it can also act as a noise filter there.
2)No, in a bagless vacuum you need all the filtering you can get.
Well it is lifetime HEPA filter if you use the vacuum as Miele had intended, only ordinary household dust, that is no fine dust what-so-ever, clean/exchange filters often, and oh boy out the window with the convenience of a bagless vacuum it is not there, they cost more time to clean and you still need to clean/change filters and that more often.
Have you worked on a miele cx1 boost cat and dog yet as I can’t find how to take mine apart
Yep I've done a few cx1's now. Pop the top trim piece off by the switches, and pop the switches off too (lever gently at the thin end of each) and undo the 4 screws and the switch pack lifts out. Then undo the casing screws (1 under each tool iirc) and lever the casing join by the bend in the design and it folds up and off at the front. Then all the white casing screws Inc the 2 holding the motor and that lifts off too 👍
@@beko1987 think that’s the blizzard isn’t it I got the boost the smaller bagless vacuum I need to replace the motor got as far as taking the casing off but can’t get the rest off
Yep the blizzard! The white housing lifts off the motor (the 2 screws through the rubber bungs hold the motor in). Once off its your boggo miele motor under there (sadly 😂). Can't imagine it'd be mega hard to bodge a Dyson motor in there...
@@beko1987 mines the boost can’t find anyone who has opened one up yet must be because there to new
Should I get one?
If its dirt cheap and your prepared to wash the filter then yes their OK... Otherwise no, because whilst their OK their not great... I'd go for an older 90s bagged miele any day over this 😂
@@beko1987 ya i maintain my vacuums well
@@beko1987 what about a 1980s Kirby with a filter bag?
You can buy all spare parts online at Miele. Including motor parts.
Got a link? I've never found anything (in the UK)
One of the worst bagless vacuum made right now
Dysons are worse.
@@autodidact537 the cordless stuff is the corded stuff is better, but not much better. The quality on the Miele is a lot better though.
Another thing is that from the big plastic bag, the klep hinge is broken, also a weake thing.
And that for that expensive machine.
Miele must do better.
These CX1 Are just garbage
They should not make these
No kidding
Wow Sam. That's really shocking. Such a bad design. I guess planned obsolescence.
Very helpful video.I bought one of these just over 3 years ago and it has lived a charmed life,but recently the retractable cord has failed,very annoying! Shockingly, the few new ones still on the market are over double in price what I paid for mine a few years back.Good suction power but overall this is a cheap and nasty vacuum cleaner.I certainly would'nt buy another one of these.German engineering at it's worst!
This is probably the worst designed vacuum currently on the market. Avoid at all costs!
If you have the exact right size of dust particles and ONLY THAT then I'm sure their fine! I did have one (did some vids on it) and did think of using it for 12v12m but even I'm not that cruel to myself! Sold for £150 on ebay though so someone loves them 😂
All bagless vacuums are bad, because they use a cyclone (Which is the principle for all bagless vacuum cleaners) is not capable of sorting the fine dust off in the same way a bag do in a bagged vacuum cleaner, it is just not technical/physically possible, so a bagless device has to have more and/or better post filters (filters after the "dust container"), and you will need to clean/exchange them more often, the motor may also be in a higher risk for more dust intrusion then a bagged device depending on motor design and/or filter placement in the suction/blowing chain. In the marketing department it is a big seller that you can save a ton of money on bags by going bagless, but you also may have to pay more for filters and may also end up spending more time cleaning your bagless vacuum cleaner, but your millage may vary. No matter if you go bagged or bagless you will have to change/clean filters (a bag is a filter too).
What a fucking pile of trash vacuum cleaner lol... sorry for the language xD
Ale chłam 🤦. Mój 17 letni LG wygląda lepiej w środku 😂.