"Just like every child on Earth knows your planet revolves around your sun" Meanwhile, it's 2022 and there's still people attending flat-Earth conferences
What's interesting about this scene, is that to an astronomer it proves that Prot IS an alien or at least he's BEEN to this system. Those numbers, you can not fake, you have to KNOW the answer to model them correctly. They knew of the gravity presence based on their observations, and to be given the answer that fits it exactly. You can't fake that. For me this scene proved Prot was exactly who he stated to be, an alien from a planet called K-PAX.
Exactly! Couldn't have said it any better. Do you think that the alien inhabited his body, perhaps via some form of telepathy/projection or do you think his entire being was the alien?
@@Malachor01 The books leave it probable either it’s a split personality (signs point to a terribly traumatized man with least one other persona who managed through the pain) OR somehow an alien really did hitch a ride inside. At the very least, another resident of the facility COMPLETELY vanishes the night Prot invites her to leave Earth together. All they find is the normal man in a catatonic state and a hand mirror in the room.
@@Treffautit's probably some form of "possession" (telepathy). Just think about it: if you Could travel the universe without even leaving your home (like with Astral projection) how many people would do it?
This is one of the first films with Kevin Spacey I can remember seeing and it's always stuck with me just how perfect he was in the part. No one else could pull off the confidence, the awkwardness, and the fun - because he is kind of having fun - with the character.
because he's unpopular with all the other monkeys we have to pretend all these movies were terrible and we never liked them all along. american beauty in particular is getting an unflattering re-appraisal
@@hansolo631 Monkeys is the just about the right term - about the same level of thought patterns. The fact we know too much about so many people and everyone acts surprised when, given the oversharing, they aren't perfect, it's depicted with shock and outrage. However, it isn't 'news', it's a lever for power - and now we don't have the joy of Spacey's work as a result. Pearls to swine.
My mom bought this movie on DVD for my birthday because I liked it. And as some other commenters have said, I believe that Prot WAS an ALIEN! However, he was an alien in a human body (alien mind, human body). In a deleted scene, Prot draws up a map of The Milky Way Galaxy seen from an entirely different part of space, possibly from where his alien part came from. Though in the deleted bits they prove him to be an alien in both mind and body. Humans don't see ultraviolet, Prot's people can.
I've long contended that Prot is an alien intelligence that took over the patient's body when he had a mental break. Having grown up with him, Prot stuck around until he was sure he could leave his friend with someone that would really take care of him, not leave him isolated in a room somewhere. Because he was in his mind, the hypnotherapy reached the patient toward the end which is the scene where he lashed out at Jeff Bridges' character.
@@a.m.5973are there books about this film? The story is a ripoff of "Hombre mirando al sudeste" which is based in a true story of a mad than claim not to be from earth and watched south east waiting for being picked up
I think so, too. During the hypnotherapy and during the water spraying even, Prot just briefly lost control of his host's mind, and with the heavy drugs in the host, was finally unable to regain full control of it again.
I both loved and hated this scene. From this point, they still don't treat him any differently. They just sort of walk off puzzled and the scientists fade away. They had a chance to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt there is life elsewhere and he is on the earth, and they just...left that part of the story un-followed.
@@Galactic123 First it's a movie and you're not gonna make a much more rigorous questioning in a movie, unless all the movie revolves around this theme. You are going to lose your audience. Second you seem to not understand what is going on here. Only 10 people on the planet knows about this system which has not been publish on internet yet and then comes a man from a psychiatric institution, who enters formulas and suddenly those multiples formulas give the exact orbits and explain a problem those scientist could not explain. What on earth do you want them to do more to be worth of their PHds? You can't go there to check, the first star Vega in constellation of Lyra is 25 light years away and others stars are 2000 light years away. A light year mean that if you travel in a spacecraft that could go as fast at the speed of light, you would still need 25 years to reach it. So again, what those PHds could do more faced with a guy who explains them with mathematics and equation things they didn't know? Of course there would be more question than those 2 questions and 5 minutes here but they could not do much and be like a pupil in front of his master class and ask for the answers.
This is my favorite scene of the movie for no other reason, if this was real a human could not have been able to freehand those orbits so smoothly. ;-)
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My fascination with this scene is that even with the knowledge that most stars have multiple planets it's still hard to conceive that there must be life forms who are so far ahead of us like we are are ahead of ants
To me it seems hard to conceive that there are not millions of planets filled with life and more intelligent life in this galaxy or universe. Space is so vast that mathematically it’s simply must happen. Religion has held humanity back for far too long and it is time to release ourselves from that bondage and stop acting like slaves
@@terryriley6410even if we could communicate with ants. Most of us would consider it a waste of time because we think we’re so special and advanced as a race. Literally everything is beneath us. Not something that I buy into of course.
In the 3 book series Prot demonstrates light travel using a flashlight and a cat.. Being an Astronomer, this movie made a profound impact on my life.. I spoke with the writer as to why there was never a follow up movie. (A real gentleman btw) "The movie didn't do as well at the box office as we had hoped." Yep, John Wick movies make money sad to say.. Humans, still so primitive.
@@RSTI191 Well, humanity is under the thumb of those who hate us. But we're better than them, more loving and caring, I would argue being primitive is way better than the digital slavery that lies ahead.
Swift Cee - I agree. This was one of the things that bothered me about this movie: the chances that a human being without a doctorate in orbital mechanics could do this is basically impossible. If I were one of those guys, I would ask Prot to do the orbital mechanics of two other systems: one of his choice, and one I chose. If he could do both, then no reasonable person would think he’s human - because even a PhD in orbital mechanics couldn’t memorize a hundred billion star systems.
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One of the most powerful scenes of all time by one of the best actors of are lifetimes truly a rare gem 💎 of such powerful chemistry made by one of the greatest of this era never will there be one like him on a deep meaning scene like this again
oh shut up with you "of all time" "in the history of cinema" blah blah blah garbage... Every single youtube video of a scene from a movie has multiple duplicate comments from people proclaiming that this is the greatest of all time in the history of cinema.... i have literally seen this same comment hundreds of times over the past few years and it really is starting to make me think far less of this generation of internet frequenters.... You are fkn robots on a level that beggars belief..
Great catch. I thought it odd he would indicate visiting two different places instantaneously (one place would have been sufficient). I quickly forgot about it and so hadn't connected that to the later specified location of the two land telescopes helping create the image of the K-PAX solar system. This adds further mystery to the question of whether or not he was an alien in human form.
In a deleted scene, Prot's star map is discussed in detail. What Steven thought to a be Neutron Star because the K-PAX system was originally viewed from Earth, turned out to be a star in an accretion disc. That means it is an object of enormous mass. In short, Prot's map confirmed the existence of a suspected Black Hole. That is knowledge no one on Earth could have had.
@@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 , yeah, that scene would have sealed the deal that he really was an alien, and the director wanted people to walk out, not quite sure.
I really would love it if this one had a sequel, as a child I loved this movie! It always struck me as a bit sad, but kinda happy too! & I would love to see more of this "possible universe"!
I know it’s not a film sequel, but if you’re not aware this is based on the first of a series of books. There’s a trilogy starring the prot character, and I think they’re all great
@@DarkArtsMage the author is Gene Brewer. The first book is called K-PAX, the second is On a Beam of Light, and the third is K-PAX 3: The Worlds of Prot. Idk if it’s still available, but there is a trilogy edition that contains all 3 books and “prot’s report” in one paperback
such a great movie! I would love to see a modern version of this type of plot. Not a remake, but something along the same thought process, I think it would be fun.
This scene make "Prot" story true, at this point of the human technology it's impossible to define position and the double solar star system with this accuracy, "Prot" is a K-Paxien ! The "I know what I saw" make the 0% possibility he's from Earth !
"What just happened in there?" We just had our ass handed to us by an alien is what happened.. In the 3 book series Prot demonstrates light travel using a flashlight and a cat.. All that said, being an Astronomer myself, this movie made a profound impact on my life.. I spoke with the writer as to why there was never a follow up movie. (A real gentleman btw) "The movie didn't do as well at the box office as we had hoped."
Hello from north side of Mount Shasta CA usa Interesting Lights around from time to time This movie's Score and some scenes have Really stuck with me..like how a song or movie can bring not just a memory back but FLASH Your THEIR In that Moment/Memory As much as You Are Now
42 year old guy here. Seen this movie to death. One of my all time favourites. I've watched this one seen an inordinate amount of times on RUclips too. EVERY time is like the first time. I get chills and well up. The music, the build up, the realisation he's using legitimate and approved mathematical formulae, the crescendo at the end.....man oh man. It just takes me out of myself to another place. Just like the movie. Bravo Kevin Spacey. Bravo Jeff Bridges. What an absolute masterclass in film making.
IF, we as human beings ever encounter a life form like Prot we can only hope he would be as patient and accommodating a Prot. He explains with his calculations what these scientists had been unable to explain and simply explains it away as common knowledge. Not reviling what his true capabilities truly are.
The flaw in the savant argument is that the Rembrandt has to come first before the Savant can make a perfect copy. In this case. He just gave the astronomers information that had up til that moment never been recorded.
I love that they never clarify what is going on. was he really an alien trying to help a friend, or was he just a genius that broke when his family was murdered... does it make any difference.
he's a genius with an interest in astronomy. This was actually part of the story. The psychologist investigates his patient to try to unravel what happened. He was a man of low means but extraordinary intellect. he dedicated his life to providing for his family who were quite literally everything to him. His family was brutally murdered and he snapped. it is possible that he calculated out what was happening in this star system and came up with a theory that checked all the boxes on what was known about it so far. the fact the scientists were able to match more current data to the calculations he came up with just acts as supporting evidence of his theory. It would, however, require him to be considerably more intelligent than his colleagues... but it does happen. Knowing he was encountering psychological problems he sought out a psychologist whom he believed was smart enough to unravel it all. He knew he was losing his mind and sought help. Insane people quite often understand there is something wrong and seek help. it is also possible that he really is an alien consciousness that has been in regular contact with this individual and really did come to try to help his friend. all the evidence seems to support it. in the end it doesn't really matter. He has fallen and it is unclear if the psychologist that was chosen will ever be able to help him, a sadly common predicament among individuals in similar situations. Most people who have been broken that severely just never recover. The only question is, was the psychologist able to get through enough to touch the last vestiges of the person who used to be there before he completely shutdown, or did he come into contact with an alien who was trying to help his friend who had already shutdown. I love that they never answer this question. this is what makes it a great movie.
Bane BlackGuard. No chance. No way he could of drawn that star map. Absolutely not. Impossible. He drew the orbital pop pattern perfectly. Plus he could see in another gamma. As far as the movie went. He wasn't from here
I spoke with the writer as to why there was never a follow up movie. "The movie didn't do as well at the box office as we had hoped." Yep, John Wick movies make money sad to say.. Humans, still so primitive..
the biggest stretch of the imagination isnt even that there is a space alien on earth- the biggest stretch is that Prot did that and (after some time to let the shock wear off) , the astrophysicists didnt go completely bananas trying to get him to come back so they could see what ELSE Prot knew.
The genius of his character is, it shows you what is is like trying to debunk someone with a completely different worldview especially when their "common knowledge" is actually well thought out. The mistake people make is just assuming that every other worldview other than their own can easily be debunked.
K pax sounds like a sanitary product. Love this movie, this and that one with John Travolta who gets smarter because of a brain tumor. Quality 90s sci fi.
Great scene but never followed up with other questions or information. E.g. some people today would know things about our stellar system including things like comets like Halley's coming by every 76y etc. Other factoids about Perseid meteor shower or space junk or objects like Voyager and presence of asteroid belt. These things wouldn't be visible from far away from our solar system at all. So it's possible he is from k-pax. However, it is also possible, that he is an astronomer who studied k-pax and went mad and something snapped in him and he thought he was k-pax'ian. So he knew the math around k-pax and the orbit data. However, no further questions were asked about things outside this a bit but still connected to k-pax with new things no one was working on and you'd need only Hubble to get that info. Now just with one thing, jumping to conclusion is a bit much. Maybe his sub-conscious knew more questions would come and snapped him out of this delusion and everything is just made up from his mind.
John 3:11-19 11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. 16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
*SCENE EXPLAINED:* The astronomers were seeing unusual orbital disturbances, "perturbations", in the rotation pattern of the binary stars but couldn't explain why even when factoring in the assumed gravitational effects of the systems bodies determined by mass. They were expecting to see a tighter more circular orbital pattern between the two stars with the planets having variable orbits due to shifting inner-system gravitational tugs. What he diagrams is a system with more asymmetrical orbits for all bodies, however, the orbits are fixed instead of variable and one of the outer planets generates four times greater gravity than its mass should generate (the cause is unexplained but that's what the equation shows) which effectively acts as a counter-weight for the binary stars and allows the planets orbits to be fixed in place over time. Basically, when two large masses orbit each other, anything orbiting that system should experience intermittent bursts of more gravity/less gravity depending on which star is closer in orbital procession. When the smaller star is closer, the planets orbit should become elongated, and when the larger star is closer, the planets orbit should become shortened. This is what the astronomers expected to see. However, one of the outer planets generates 4-times more gravity than its mass should, which creates a medium tug force on the inner planets to counter the shifting inner-system mass of the stars. Your welcome!!
Other commentator mentioned once - Aloha and Adios is the proof that the guy was traveling faster then light. Telescopes in Chili and Hawaii mentioned later after light travel.
This scene laid an egg when they walked out and their was no more engagement with his level of knowledge. When the guys says ‘how could you know this?’ no one was interested in knowing more?
They say I am like K-Pax but I dint either feel smart or better than anyone else. Its not a really bad thing, but it feels uncomfortable to not know as much as the majority and blend in perfectly without anyone feeling the frequency of high energy I sending out.
How did the Dogon tribe always know that Sirius star system was a binary star system. Even before our science caught up and viewed this? Nomo...the abominable one. Aqueous in nature. Have you seen one? Dark brown and black...like a Trilobite...ummm...9-10 ft in length....something like arms and legs and a humanoid head ...it's back covered with an Armadillo like shell. How could they know this?😮
"Just like every child on Earth knows your planet revolves around your sun"
Meanwhile, it's 2022 and there's still people attending flat-Earth conferences
The self chosen Delusional Like To Party Together in large groups
Disk Worlds are real but there would be sign's if were on one. Search "Megastructures 06: Discworlds" if you want more info.
Yeah, the character kinda gives us a bit too much credit.....
Yeah, and some cant define what a woman is
LOL
Any one notice he said adios and aloha before they mentioned the telescopes in Chile and Hawaii
Nice catch
Well spotted 😎👍🏻
Didn’t even occur to me 🤦🏻♂️
Wow. Good one.
Ftl travel would cause time paradoxes where the message would arrive before the event. He sent the message, before the event happened.
So what?
this always felt like a deeply magical scene to me.
i remember seeing this in the theaters in 2001 and it was mesmerizing
he raped kids.
What's interesting about this scene, is that to an astronomer it proves that Prot IS an alien or at least he's BEEN to this system. Those numbers, you can not fake, you have to KNOW the answer to model them correctly. They knew of the gravity presence based on their observations, and to be given the answer that fits it exactly. You can't fake that. For me this scene proved Prot was exactly who he stated to be, an alien from a planet called K-PAX.
Exactly! Couldn't have said it any better. Do you think that the alien inhabited his body, perhaps via some form of telepathy/projection or do you think his entire being was the alien?
@@Malachor01 The books leave it probable either it’s a split personality (signs point to a terribly traumatized man with least one other persona who managed through the pain) OR somehow an alien really did hitch a ride inside. At the very least, another resident of the facility COMPLETELY vanishes the night Prot invites her to leave Earth together. All they find is the normal man in a catatonic state and a hand mirror in the room.
@@Treffautit's probably some form of "possession" (telepathy).
Just think about it: if you Could travel the universe without even leaving your home (like with Astral projection) how many people would do it?
Why couldn't he have hacked that info? Simple ask him a question not on presently being worked on the verify the result.
If he had proved his knowledge, he’d have never been allowed to leave
This is one of the first films with Kevin Spacey I can remember seeing and it's always stuck with me just how perfect he was in the part. No one else could pull off the confidence, the awkwardness, and the fun - because he is kind of having fun - with the character.
It's because he wasn't acting.
because he's unpopular with all the other monkeys we have to pretend all these movies were terrible and we never liked them all along. american beauty in particular is getting an unflattering re-appraisal
@@hansolo631 Monkeys is the just about the right term - about the same level of thought patterns. The fact we know too much about so many people and everyone acts surprised when, given the oversharing, they aren't perfect, it's depicted with shock and outrage. However, it isn't 'news', it's a lever for power - and now we don't have the joy of Spacey's work as a result. Pearls to swine.
Wildly enough, co-starring with Jeff Bridges, who played a similar role in "Starman" (1984).
My mom bought this movie on DVD for my birthday because I liked it. And as some other commenters have said, I believe that Prot WAS an ALIEN! However, he was an alien in a human body (alien mind, human body). In a deleted scene, Prot draws up a map of The Milky Way Galaxy seen from an entirely different part of space, possibly from where his alien part came from. Though in the deleted bits they prove him to be an alien in both mind and body. Humans don't see ultraviolet, Prot's people can.
I've long contended that Prot is an alien intelligence that took over the patient's body when he had a mental break. Having grown up with him, Prot stuck around until he was sure he could leave his friend with someone that would really take care of him, not leave him isolated in a room somewhere. Because he was in his mind, the hypnotherapy reached the patient toward the end which is the scene where he lashed out at Jeff Bridges' character.
You should read the book series by Gene Brewer. The first book is ambiguous. The second and the third book removes all doubt.
@@a.m.5973Whoa, thanks for that! I wasn't aware it was a series. Just bought the trilogy on Kindle, looking forward to reading it.
He would never leave his friend in a bad spot. Every Kpaxian knows this. ❤
@@a.m.5973are there books about this film? The story is a ripoff of "Hombre mirando al sudeste" which is based in a true story of a mad than claim not to be from earth and watched south east waiting for being picked up
I think so, too. During the hypnotherapy and during the water spraying even, Prot just briefly lost control of his host's mind, and with the heavy drugs in the host, was finally unable to regain full control of it again.
What an Amazing movie, loved it.
@Zapper Zapped Shawshank redemption. Forrest Gump. Interview with a vampire. Bicentennial Man.
This is why I am convinced "Prote" was really from K-Pax.
100% was.
You know its just a crappy film, right,??
@@justinparkerthewildwolf6394 and I seen your lame ass reply in another comment. U must be the fun one in the group
@@justinparkerthewildwolf6394 You know you aren't a wild wolf but just a crappy human trying to debunk a fictional movie, right?
@@justinparkerthewildwolf6394 you know you are not human but monkey right ?
I both loved and hated this scene. From this point, they still don't treat him any differently. They just sort of walk off puzzled and the scientists fade away. They had a chance to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt there is life elsewhere and he is on the earth, and they just...left that part of the story un-followed.
I agree, it leaves people in the lurch, nothing really materialised from his information, they just thought he was a savant.
Seriously. If this was for real, there would be a much more rigorous round of questioning if any of these scientists were worth their PHDs
@@Galactic123 First it's a movie and you're not gonna make a much more rigorous questioning in a movie, unless all the movie revolves around this theme. You are going to lose your audience.
Second you seem to not understand what is going on here.
Only 10 people on the planet knows about this system which has not been publish on internet yet and then comes a man from a psychiatric institution, who enters formulas and suddenly those multiples formulas give the exact orbits and explain a problem those scientist could not explain.
What on earth do you want them to do more to be worth of their PHds?
You can't go there to check, the first star Vega in constellation of Lyra is 25 light years away and others stars are 2000 light years away. A light year mean that if you travel in a spacecraft that could go as fast at the speed of light, you would still need 25 years to reach it.
So again, what those PHds could do more faced with a guy who explains them with mathematics and equation things they didn't know?
Of course there would be more question than those 2 questions and 5 minutes here but they could not do much and be like a pupil in front of his master class and ask for the answers.
Good point
He made a complete fool out of the scientists with the light speed travel demo. 🤣
This is my favorite scene of the movie for no other reason, if this was real a human could not have been able to freehand those orbits so smoothly. ;-)
So sayeth you.
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Its just an actor tapping on a screen while computer effects and music make it look dramatic
Yes, I know.
When he points his finger and laugh's it's like he's saying "I can see my house from here" 2:16
O'Neill to Carter. SG1.
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A student on the Space Bus (those who know, know)
_Laugh's?_ 😂😂😂
Who taught you how to use apostrophes? 😂😂😂
@@slappy8941 I tau'ght h'im how' to u'se apo'strop'hes.
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من One of the most amazing scenes that will not be repeated in the history of world cinema.
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I think you oversold it just a touch.
Exactly
You are correct.
Why would anyone repeat it. Its hardly worth repeating
"I don't know what I believe. But... I know what I saw."
My fascination with this scene is that even with the knowledge that most stars have multiple planets it's still hard to conceive that there must be life forms who are so far ahead of us like we are are ahead of ants
So just hang out and wait for them to fry you with a magnifying glass.
OR,
We can kick their asses and take their ship.
Well said!!!
To me it seems hard to conceive that there are not millions of planets filled with life and more intelligent life in this galaxy or universe. Space is so vast that mathematically it’s simply must happen. Religion has held humanity back for far too long and it is time to release ourselves from that bondage and stop acting like slaves
If only we could communicate with ants like Prot did with humans... We aren't just ahead, we are detached.
@@terryriley6410even if we could communicate with ants. Most of us would consider it a waste of time because we think we’re so special and advanced as a race. Literally everything is beneath us. Not something that I buy into of course.
One of my all-time favourite movies. Awesome
This movie a great piece of art. Lets your mind decide what's going on than explicitly telling you.
I personally think that's what makes it a shitty movie.
It didn't ever say one way or the other
3:23 Kepler's Third Law for a two-body system:
a^3/ p^2 = G (M1 + M2) / 4 pi^2
@Zapper Zapped No.
@@jameswatsonatheistgamer:
Yes, it is. It's just presented with the gravitational constant term and 4π² term on the other side of the equation.
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what is the so called 'three-body problem'?
@@hoon_sol how can pi be applied to spheres, when pi is not a constant on a sphere?
Man, do I wish this scene would have continued. Such a tease.
Well, he wasn't an alien, he was just a troubled guy.
@@redadamearth That's not what I inferred from this scene nor the movie in general.
In the books it was shown that he was an alien @@redadamearth
I've watched the film several times, and this scene quite a few more. I think it's one of the best scenes in the movie.
A sadly underrated sci-fi classic! I love this movie! ^_^
Yeah, it really gripped with me believing he was from K-PAX, even the doctor was convinced. Then the plot twist to a family tragedy. Wonderful film.
Well, there's no reason he wasn't from K-PAX, but also lived a normal life here. @@DeeJaPhil
In the 3 book series Prot demonstrates light travel using a flashlight and a cat..
Being an Astronomer, this movie made a profound impact on my life..
I spoke with the writer as to why there was never a follow up movie. (A real gentleman btw)
"The movie didn't do as well at the box office as we had hoped."
Yep, John Wick movies make money sad to say..
Humans, still so primitive.
@@RSTI191 Well, humanity is under the thumb of those who hate us. But we're better than them, more loving and caring, I would argue being primitive is way better than the digital slavery that lies ahead.
@J_RISTI would make a great tv series.
The music makes it
YES!
Agreed
Clearly an Alien. This confirms it ...billion percent.
Swift Cee - I agree. This was one of the things that bothered me about this movie: the chances that a human being without a doctorate in orbital mechanics could do this is basically impossible. If I were one of those guys, I would ask Prot to do the orbital mechanics of two other systems: one of his choice, and one I chose. If he could do both, then no reasonable person would think he’s human - because even a PhD in orbital mechanics couldn’t memorize a hundred billion star systems.
This Is How Kevin Spacey turns a simple movie into a Golden Masterpiece and Rare Gem 💎 of the 20th Century
Its from 2001 so its 21 century
The idea of another intelligent and resonably bening species out there is among the most comforting you can imagine.
This one one of my favourite if not the best movie I’ve seen. Love the sound track as well.
You must SEE the original
I simply love this movie! ❤
I loved how he's grasping at straws and came to the idea that he copied an entire solar system diagram. Especially one that we had no ruff draft of.
Even lead to the water of knowledge, people still open an umbrella vs becoming wet.
You can lead a horse to water,
And if you can get him to float on his back, you got something!
Soak me over.
I'll dive in head-first, with naught but a swimming suit. ❤
The musical score to this movie was incredible.
"every child knows your planet orbits around your sun. It's common knowledge"
Flat Earthers: Hold my beer
'geocentrists' would have been more accurate
Lol
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I am fascinated that all the "unanswered" this movie leaves the viewer with doesn't seem to bother me in the least? I JUST LOVE IT!
One of the most powerful scenes of all time by one of the best actors of are lifetimes truly a rare gem 💎 of such powerful chemistry made by one of the greatest of this era never will there be one like him on a deep meaning scene like this again
oh shut up with you "of all time" "in the history of cinema" blah blah blah garbage... Every single youtube video of a scene from a movie has multiple duplicate comments from people proclaiming that this is the greatest of all time in the history of cinema.... i have literally seen this same comment hundreds of times over the past few years and it really is starting to make me think far less of this generation of internet frequenters.... You are fkn robots on a level that beggars belief..
You mean the pedo?
All I see is a child molester. People can fool you. I thought K.S. Was great in American Beauty. I guess actors make the best liars.
Adios! Aloha!. Where were those two telescopes again ? Um...2:07
Great catch. I thought it odd he would indicate visiting two different places instantaneously (one place would have been sufficient). I quickly forgot about it and so hadn't connected that to the later specified location of the two land telescopes helping create the image of the K-PAX solar system. This adds further mystery to the question of whether or not he was an alien in human form.
Любимый фильм. Прекрасный момент! With my pleasure
Absolute brilliant scene.
"Beautiful "man and the love from you. "HIS WORDS FROM MY PHONE BOX.
amazing actor playing , movie and music as well
In a deleted scene, Prot's star map is discussed in detail. What Steven thought to a be Neutron Star because the K-PAX system was originally viewed from Earth, turned out to be a star in an accretion disc. That means it is an object of enormous mass. In short, Prot's map confirmed the existence of a suspected Black Hole. That is knowledge no one on Earth could have had.
I think they wanted the ending more ambiguous; he could be an alien or mental case.
The book ends with a mental case.
@@classicsciencefictionhorro1665 , yeah, that scene would have sealed the deal that he really was an alien, and the director wanted people to walk out, not quite sure.
I really would love it if this one had a sequel, as a child I loved this movie! It always struck me as a bit sad, but kinda happy too! & I would love to see more of this "possible universe"!
I know it’s not a film sequel, but if you’re not aware this is based on the first of a series of books. There’s a trilogy starring the prot character, and I think they’re all great
@@ethanzepeda4439 do you happen to have the name of the author or the series titles?
@@DarkArtsMage the author is Gene Brewer. The first book is called K-PAX, the second is On a Beam of Light, and the third is K-PAX 3: The Worlds of Prot. Idk if it’s still available, but there is a trilogy edition that contains all 3 books and “prot’s report” in one paperback
such a great movie! I would love to see a modern version of this type of plot. Not a remake, but something along the same thought process, I think it would be fun.
Still one of the greatest movie scenes EVER!!!
This scene make "Prot" story true, at this point of the human technology it's impossible to define position and the double solar star system with this accuracy, "Prot" is a K-Paxien ! The "I know what I saw" make the 0% possibility he's from Earth !
This was such a great movie. Some fine actors in this very underated film.
For the record...multi body calculus is not joke.
“I know what I saw”.
"What just happened in there?"
We just had our ass handed to us by an alien is what happened..
In the 3 book series Prot demonstrates light travel using a flashlight and a cat..
All that said, being an Astronomer myself, this movie made a profound impact on my life..
I spoke with the writer as to why there was never a follow up movie. (A real gentleman btw)
"The movie didn't do as well at the box office as we had hoped."
A simple line from one of the professors like, "It's going to take us some time to understand what we've seen here" would have resolved the scene.
This is such a great movie. You reach the end of the movie and still don't know if he was PROT or PORTER. Amazing.
wht movie is this!!! I needa watch it >.
K-PAX
That movie is amazing ❤
Love this part!
Love this movie. So heartwarming.
This is one of my favourite films .
Pertabations....binary.... Brilliant show.
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Interesting Lights around from time to time
This movie's Score and some scenes have Really stuck with me..like how a song or movie can bring not just a memory back but
FLASH
Your THEIR
In that Moment/Memory
As much as You Are Now
Such a profound scene ......
Good set John. The benefits of active rest TRAINING.
In the words of Carl Sagan "man and his arrogance".
"Make sure you can swim"
Каждый раз когда я пересматривал этот фильм, данный эпизод вызывал у меня мурашки по коже. Очень сильно сделано.
42 year old guy here. Seen this movie to death. One of my all time favourites. I've watched this one seen an inordinate amount of times on RUclips too. EVERY time is like the first time. I get chills and well up. The music, the build up, the realisation he's using legitimate and approved mathematical formulae, the crescendo at the end.....man oh man. It just takes me out of myself to another place. Just like the movie.
Bravo Kevin Spacey.
Bravo Jeff Bridges.
What an absolute masterclass in film making.
I didn't watch this movie cause I thought it might be boring back then.can you recommend a few good scenes on RUclips I can watch?
@@drcokepepper Honestly watch the whole thing. It's an epic film.
It took me until the very end of the scene to finally question why I didn't spot the space lycra...
My favorite scene in the movie.
IF, we as human beings ever encounter a life form like Prot we can only hope he would be as patient and accommodating a Prot. He explains with his calculations what these scientists had been unable to explain and simply explains it away as common knowledge. Not reviling what his true capabilities truly are.
The flaw in the savant argument is that the Rembrandt has to come first before the Savant can make a perfect copy. In this case. He just gave the astronomers information that had up til that moment never been recorded.
I Finally found the weapon at area 51. I thought it was there all along , just couldn't prove it until now
I love that they never clarify what is going on. was he really an alien trying to help a friend, or was he just a genius that broke when his family was murdered... does it make any difference.
I think he was faking it.. "Prot" was never anything more than an alter ego and dissociative fugue in compensation for losing his wife and child
Robert Arans. And how would you explain his knowledge of the star systems? No one could have possibly known that.
he's a genius with an interest in astronomy. This was actually part of the story. The psychologist investigates his patient to try to unravel what happened. He was a man of low means but extraordinary intellect. he dedicated his life to providing for his family who were quite literally everything to him. His family was brutally murdered and he snapped.
it is possible that he calculated out what was happening in this star system and came up with a theory that checked all the boxes on what was known about it so far. the fact the scientists were able to match more current data to the calculations he came up with just acts as supporting evidence of his theory. It would, however, require him to be considerably more intelligent than his colleagues... but it does happen. Knowing he was encountering psychological problems he sought out a psychologist whom he believed was smart enough to unravel it all. He knew he was losing his mind and sought help. Insane people quite often understand there is something wrong and seek help.
it is also possible that he really is an alien consciousness that has been in regular contact with this individual and really did come to try to help his friend. all the evidence seems to support it.
in the end it doesn't really matter. He has fallen and it is unclear if the psychologist that was chosen will ever be able to help him, a sadly common predicament among individuals in similar situations. Most people who have been broken that severely just never recover.
The only question is, was the psychologist able to get through enough to touch the last vestiges of the person who used to be there before he completely shutdown, or did he come into contact with an alien who was trying to help his friend who had already shutdown. I love that they never answer this question. this is what makes it a great movie.
Bane BlackGuard. No chance. No way he could of drawn that star map. Absolutely not. Impossible. He drew the orbital pop pattern perfectly. Plus he could see in another gamma. As far as the movie went. He wasn't from here
A great film presenting a wonderful conundrum.
They just don’t make them like this anymore. Where have all the good writers gone.
They're all writing John Wick movies, because they make money.
I spoke with the writer as to why there was never a follow up movie.
"The movie didn't do as well at the box office as we had hoped."
Yep, John Wick movies make money sad to say..
Humans, still so primitive..
@J_RISTI that makes my heart hurt 💔
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Welcome to the human race...
they were fired because they were white men.
the biggest stretch of the imagination isnt even that there is a space alien on earth- the biggest stretch is that Prot did that and (after some time to let the shock wear off) , the astrophysicists didnt go completely bananas trying to get him to come back so they could see what ELSE Prot knew.
Enjoyable movie.
The genius of his character is, it shows you what is is like trying to debunk someone with a completely different worldview especially when their "common knowledge" is actually well thought out. The mistake people make is just assuming that every other worldview other than their own can easily be debunked.
Prot was an alien. I think this scene confirms it.
Lovely movie 😊
Love this movie, makes me think what if.
By far the greatest actor that ever lived
He is the greatest.... I agree with you
tom hardy wants you to hold his beer
Jeff Bridges is something special. He conveys more with a glance than most actors with a scene of dialogue.
One of them.
I mean ... if that matters to all the people he molested and had killed.
K pax sounds like a sanitary product. Love this movie, this and that one with John Travolta who gets smarter because of a brain tumor. Quality 90s sci fi.
Every scene with kevin is creepy now
Great scene but never followed up with other questions or information. E.g. some people today would know things about our stellar system including things like comets like Halley's coming by every 76y etc. Other factoids about Perseid meteor shower or space junk or objects like Voyager and presence of asteroid belt.
These things wouldn't be visible from far away from our solar system at all. So it's possible he is from k-pax.
However, it is also possible, that he is an astronomer who studied k-pax and went mad and something snapped in him and he thought he was k-pax'ian. So he knew the math around k-pax and the orbit data. However, no further questions were asked about things outside this a bit but still connected to k-pax with new things no one was working on and you'd need only Hubble to get that info.
Now just with one thing, jumping to conclusion is a bit much. Maybe his sub-conscious knew more questions would come and snapped him out of this delusion and everything is just made up from his mind.
Always loved this scene
I absolutely love this scene. They just don't do stuff like this in movies anymore it seems, which is sad.
Tell us you don't see movies without telling us.
Funny, because 20 years ago I heard people say the exact same thing.
After seeing him layout the formulas, I feel like a retired with my math skills.
Favorite part of this movie.
“To believe in God is to know that all the rules will be fair, and that there will be wonderful surprises.”
- Ugo Betti
John 3:11-19
11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but you do not receive our testimony. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
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That’s one of the best mic drops.
They were in the dark with Kspacey
*SCENE EXPLAINED:*
The astronomers were seeing unusual orbital disturbances, "perturbations", in the rotation pattern of the binary stars but couldn't explain why even when factoring in the assumed gravitational effects of the systems bodies determined by mass. They were expecting to see a tighter more circular orbital pattern between the two stars with the planets having variable orbits due to shifting inner-system gravitational tugs. What he diagrams is a system with more asymmetrical orbits for all bodies, however, the orbits are fixed instead of variable and one of the outer planets generates four times greater gravity than its mass should generate (the cause is unexplained but that's what the equation shows) which effectively acts as a counter-weight for the binary stars and allows the planets orbits to be fixed in place over time.
Basically, when two large masses orbit each other, anything orbiting that system should experience intermittent bursts of more gravity/less gravity depending on which star is closer in orbital procession. When the smaller star is closer, the planets orbit should become elongated, and when the larger star is closer, the planets orbit should become shortened. This is what the astronomers expected to see. However, one of the outer planets generates 4-times more gravity than its mass should, which creates a medium tug force on the inner planets to counter the shifting inner-system mass of the stars.
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Other commentator mentioned once - Aloha and Adios is the proof that the guy was traveling faster then light. Telescopes in Chili and Hawaii mentioned later after light travel.
This scene laid an egg when they walked out and their was no more engagement with his level of knowledge. When the guys says ‘how could you know this?’ no one was interested in knowing more?
Where was this scene filmed?
A planetarium.
Such an underrated movie...
2:11 Chile.....and Hawaii. Adios / Aloha
And I got just that!
A little bit of sunshine:)
Great video I appreciate it.
the way he said aloha adios before light travel. makes me he thinks he did indeed do it for them....
I was disappointed in the ending, because Prot didn't leave earth.........then I realized he did, but the earthman he was inhabiting stayed.
I love this movie
This SCENE and music fry my brain and soul
They say I am like K-Pax but I dint either feel smart or better than anyone else. Its not a really bad thing, but it feels uncomfortable to not know as much as the majority and blend in perfectly without anyone feeling the frequency of high energy I sending out.
How did the Dogon tribe always know that Sirius star system was a binary star system. Even before our science caught up and viewed this? Nomo...the abominable one. Aqueous in nature. Have you seen one? Dark brown and black...like a Trilobite...ummm...9-10 ft in length....something like arms and legs and a humanoid head ...it's back covered with an Armadillo like shell. How could they know this?😮