I love the fact that they manage to do the ONE thing that freaks the CHurch out...... The one thing that made them demonize this movie... they make the public say the 2 most dangerous words - WHAT IF?
@@snowman7469 ET’s I have a feeling, want nothing to do with us. I don’t think they’re even interested in conquest. Anything that’s advanced enough to come this far into the universe is smart enough to know they don’t have to waste resources on a war, they need only sit by and will do their job for them.
@@snowman7469 Nah that would just confirm one thing, but this conspiracy about christ as they said in the movie, would turn the very foundations western civilization is founded on to dust.
*Mary of Magdala was a dignified woman, independent and had a wealth of her own, to her name. I couldn't say for certain that she was Jesus's wife, but it's clear that she was one of the most, if not THE most, trusted and truest disciples (apostles) of Christ. She was a woman ahead of her time. She deserved, and still deserves, more respect and even reverence.*
Completely agree. But if Jesus wasn't divine as they seem to be saying, then Mary, the disciples and the Grail aren't important in the grand scheme of things at all.
@@spex76 Not true, if we managed to get actual proof Jesus was a living man then it absolutely destroys the church, the illusion of Christs divinity would be shattered.
@@appocalypsechild Then why would Mary of Magdala be so revered? It would destroy the Church If Christ wasn't divine. But if Christ isn't God, then Mary is not important, just like the other followers of Jesus aren't important. They are all raised up simply because of who Jesus is
I love how offended he got when she called Mary "the prostitute". You can feel the anger he has for this woman he doesn't even know being slandered thousands of years later
You can understand it though given how high his character clearly holds Mary Magdalene up as the very ideal of his belief in the sacred feminine. It doesn't set well at all with him given his ideology that the church unfairly and falsely blackened her name and part in Jesus ministry by lowing a high status woman who he believes was Jesus's wife to being a mere prostitute. Saying Mary was a prostitute to him was basically like someone saying to a Christian that Jesus was a false messiah.
Old British guys sound educated and authoritative. This would not work with a Filipino accent. 😂 Before you blast me I’m Filipino. Now if I was giving boxing advice then it would be flipped.
Yes, Ian is a fantastic actor, unfortunately Richard Harris didn’t think so, hence why Ian refused the role of Dumbledore when he was approached to replace Harris when he died,
Look up Helena of Adiabene. She wasn’t in the brothel by choice. When you know that Judas Iscariot is Judas of Galilee head of the Sicarii you recognize the name games played by Saul of Tarsus. He gives characters the most common names in Judea at the time; Miriam, Yeshua and Judah. Simon is really popular in that time period as well. James is Jacob and also a very common name. Look up when Parables were thought to first appear in literature. And then look up how prominently they feature in the Dead Sea Scrolls, then come back and tell me how the dates of the Dead Sea scrolls commonly agreed upon make sense with the dating of parables.
I’m with him. I remember someone explaining the book to me before I read it,wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Raised Catholic & attended catholic HS & college. Of course we took Theology classes. The church was known for its role of keeping women down. No surprise there.
@@samanthab1923 kept everyone dumb, down and economically depressed. It was an extension of the Roman system of controls, that’s why they opposed translating the Bible for over 1500 years. Five hundred years ago 99% of people were totally illiterate, within 500 years of the King James translation, illiteracy in the English speaking world is virtually nonexistent. Which brings me to the Arian Christians and the Goths. Gothic was a language made into a written form by the Arian Bishop Wulfila who did so to translate the Bible into the native language of the goths. Arianism was exterminated by the Roman Catholics for this, even though the gothic translation predates the vulgate, meaning that the Arians were putting the Bible into their people’s native languages before the official Roman Latin version was even commissioned in the first place. So the Romans, as seems to be the only way they ever knew, would slaughter anyone who disobeyed what they wanted done, using their power and influence to gather armies of the same people they largely oppressed to kill those who were seeking to liberate them.
@@scottadams4655it makes more sense that you can reach god through sex?.. how about it’s all just a biological function of evolution?.. there is no god to be reached. It’s just physics and chemistry. Same with drugs. Plus men and women need each other for reproduction. It’s stupid.
Makes you wonder why the niacean council chose the books they did. There's so much more left unsaid in the Gospels which were not canonized. Including ones where Jesus isn't God. Actually none of them have that. It was added in later🤫
I remember reading this book for the first time, getting to this part where the Last Supper painting is explained. I froze, put the book down, hopped online, looked at the painting and By God! How did I miss all that? Brilliant stuff.
You mean the cup. A priest in our church told about that and told a story about it. The tale goes that when Da Vinci finished the fresco, all of his students admired how the cup/holy grail was well painted. Da Vinci upon hearing this decided to remove it for the reason that the painting should focus on Jesus's glory at the time of the last supper. Whether this is true or not I cannot tell but still fascinating.
It's because the event Leonardo Da Vinci is chronicling in his Last Supper takes place after the meal has concluded. In the painting, Jesus has just announced to the Twelve Apostles that one of them will betray Him.
Not really brilliant. There is no chalice because it is the end of the meal. The disciples in the painting are reacting to what Jesus has just said, that one of them would betray him. There is no Mary Magdalene in the painting -- the one who he says is Mary Magdalene is John the Evangelist.
i think Lawrence Gardner makes a good case. He believes the only way to prove whats true or false would be to travel back in time and record the actual words spoken and events. if it wasn't for the bloody, money and power hungry history of a "lets pretend were catholic" church, some people would not be so curious. Was a " self serving, ,female surpressing desease invented in order to offer a cure" ?
@@chrisastin184 You might want to read the Bible: Matthew 12:46-50 46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” 48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
@@yew2oob954 ok your point? The Bible has been translated so many times you don't know what it originally said. That doesn't change the fact that they get simple history wrong in the movie to fit their narrative.
@@chrisastin184 My point...you claim they get something wrong historically...so clearly YOU are claiming that YOU know what the Bible originally said. My point is that your entire belief system is false so this movie may get some things wrong about something that is COMPLETELY wrong.
Dan Brown made multiple mistakes in history and geography. It is a potboiler of a novel but, as the lawyers would say, it assumes facts not in evidence, and misrepresents actual locations and events. You will be entertained...but not educated.
Whatever you choose to believe or not believe about this, the way it was written and acted almost makes the story more plausible than it most likely is.
I would like to spend a lot of time in that study room, reading old books, discovering old secrets, and play some Age of Empires 2 when I'm tired of reading.
I don't know why, I have seen every Tom Hanks movie out there. Yet, this is my favorite movie he's been in, next to You've Got Mail. I love seeing both sides of an actors abilities. For him, drama and comedy.
Davinci painted the last supper around 1498. Like most renaissance painting someone paid, chose the scripture and posed for the painting. Now, this was over 1400 after Christs death, the fact that some people take this scene to be real amazes me. Just like the painting of Jesus, it was literally a patron that posed for the painting. Amazing.
DaVinci is known for Hiding msgs in his paintings. Like the image of Brain around God in 'The creation of Adam'. And DaVinci was part of Illuminati. So, its very probably he was hiding the Truth about Mary magdalene and Christ in this painting, irrespective of whether posed by a patron or not.
In the movie, the reason that they used "The Last Supper" as a "proof" or a puzzle is that it was hinted that Leonardo was a member of the Priory of Sion, not solely on the contents of the painting. Leonardo, proven time and time again to be a man of passion, probably used his dearest art to scatter proof of Jesus's humanity, which I think makes absolute sense. That being in the movies/books universe, of course. In one way or another, I find the idea of Jesus Christ having a child to be plausible. Even if there isn't any proof (at least verified), he was, quite simply, a man. He had desires like any other person, so finding a partner (in this particular case, a wife) and having children is not a far stretched idea. But that is another topic, of course.
Well... the fact that people still think that magic is real, amazes me. 100+ old religions are "mythos", but this one is the real deal. People should not be this stupid. But here we are. That some people then take this scene as real, is not really that farfetched.
Yeah yeah…it’s not the painting it’s DA VINCI…the whole point of it is that Leo was part of the whole secret society to keep the descendants of Jesus a secret. It’s what’s supposed to explain all his art work and inventions….
This scene shows the dangers of looking to much into history and forgetting that while much of our views on history are interpreted as best we can, hard facts in history do exist. If for no other reason to remind us not to become fanatical in our beliefs about the past.
Actually we have to be even more careful than that. Historical 'facts' aren't necessarily 'provable' in the sense we have writings of them and sometimes writings from two or more sources. None of that makes it a 'fact' simply because it was written down. The further back you go the less clarity we have on what actually transpired.
This was the first time i read the book before seeing the movie, and i remember reading this particular scene in the book and in my mind i was thinking Ian McKellen would be great as the role of Teabing if they ever made a movie. Low and behold months later he was announced
There they are, McKellen with a very British accent and Hanks with a very American accent. They nailed them perfectly. If there's someday a film starring both of them, I would suggest to make it as a political drama, with McKellen portraying a British PM and Hanks portraying the President of the United States.
Love the Da Vinci code! Yea, this was the scene, the big revelation! Conspiracy theory or not, this version of the truth hits harder. Dan Brown is such a great writer, I remember I had a tough time putting this book down. The movie is great but somehow the book is better.
"Historically inaccurate" absolutely, but close enough to fact that a non fiction document revealing all of this already existed long before The Da Vinci Code was written. The original author tried to sue for plagiarism but was denied because "historical evidence cannot be copyrighted". The Church tried to block this book/movie multiple times but was unsuccessful for fear of the damage it would cause to those whose faith was lacking. The documents mentioned here, the omitted gospels, translations for sangreal, companion and others... every source quoted in this segment exists but cannot be 100% verified as true (just like every part of any religious text) but are real enough to scare the church shitless, for good reason
if you're talking about The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, it presents ideas taken from a previous book from 1972, so it's plagiarism too, and has nothing historical in it. Your mind wants to read what you want to believe, to paraphrase McKellen.
@@thegp2008 You're absolutely right. A magical reincarnating superhuman doing magic, the global ecosystem confined to a wooden boat and the entire human race propagating form a single mated pair with only sons makes far more sense
Uh, this entire historical premise of the Da Vinci Code is utter hogwash. It takes precisely two seconds of actual historical research to debunk massive chunks of Dan Browns ridiculous claims. It’s conspiracy theory nonsense.
@@ch3nz3n I will not. When a faith claims their ancient fairytales are the one and only truth you must accept all of it or none at all. It only seems disingenuous because of how stupid it is to anyone but an indoctrinated child
Once I got to Milan, Italy I stood in front of the fresco thinking that I just found "Proof". Then it dawned on me, this is not a snapshot. It is a painting. And yes, the woman is Mary Magdalen. And yes the Vatican leaves this subject as a true mystery. The nuns told me they hoped it was true and then giggled together.
You are absolutely right. If someone painted homie the clown on it a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago or even today, that doesn't mean that's what really happened. On the show mythbusters, the art museum host pointed out that if you look hard enough you can find the alphabet soup in the whole painting. Furthermore, the painter Leonardo DaVinci was a known homosexual and many of his paintings were of androgynous men. Look up his painting of 'john John the disciple or it may be John the baptizer but he also looks like a lady.
Several great things about this movie : 1. Young(er) Tom Hanks made scholarly Tom Hanks 2. Sir Ian McKellen 3. Follow the novel faithfully 4. (Younger) Paul Bettany 5. Hans Zimmer
Many people don't realize that Christ was followed and financially supported in ministry by women of great wealth. Mary Magdalena was The Master Apostle/Teacher to the other 12. The discples were used to spread the gospel, but Mary Magdalena Was The Church.
The whole sequence does not make sense. Leonardo lived in the 15. century, why would he know the secrets 1500 years after? And the witchhunts took place at the same time and not during the middle ages, also 1500 years after. What happened during that long time? For clarification: Thats 3 times longer then the timespan between Leonardo and us.
I can count at least one more pair of figures in that painting, leaning away from each to create the shape of a chalice in the negative space between. Potentially two more pairs.
this movie was panned but I loved it. not so much for the religious part but for the anagrams, cryptex, & the scavenger hunt w/ the treasure at the end. love this scene.
The reason why the critics panned was for the majority of the scenes dealing with Mary’s crypt. You could see the outline when the Crusaders went searching for it. They felt it wasn’t suspenseful enough I guess? Honestly millions of us read the book by time film came out. So it honestly didn’t bother me much. The book was a fun read.
foundations of religion? the foundation of religion has nothing to do with jesus' marital life. it has to do with him dying on the cross. married unmarried makes no difference.
fun fact about the Malleus Maleficarum: it was written in large part due to the author, Heimrich Kramer's, incident with a woman named Helena Scheuberin. He was an insane priest whose sermons were described as 'heretical' by Helena, and she avoided and spoke out against them, and also allegedly spat at Heimrich and said: "Fie on you, you bad monk, may the falling evil take you". Heimrich was so enraged that this woman spoke out against him that he put her and thirteen others on trial. However, the judge released her and the thirteen others with no punishment or light penance. Heimrich went insane over her winning the trial, and stayed in Innsbruck to 'continue the investigation against her' which meant stalking Helena, and the Bishop himself noticed this and banished him for his insane obsession over Helena. This prompted Heimrich to write the Malleus Maleficarum. Which really makes you realize how it's essentially his own torture fantasies
This scene gave me chills & goosebumps. Church is full of lies & deceit here. Their excuse It's to give hope. Even in Angels & Demons as how it shows Camerlengo was in fact the bad guy but made it look like hero in the end.
I have this image, Sir Ian makes his speech, and everyone is amazed. Then he pulls Holy Blood and the Holy Grail out of a pile, i bought this in the bargain bin a few years ago. It was also a BBC documentary in 82. Everybody turns around and goes home 😂.
My thing is France wasn’t France at that time. It was Gaul, I seriously doubt a pregnant woman would journey that far to a unknown land to have a child by foot or even by sea. It wasn’t like Gaul ( now known as France ) was like some wonderful place at that time. Caesar just conquered it like 30-40 years before.
@@scottmatheson3346 makes more sense geographically. It’s not like the Roman Empire had pictures of them all over the empire. Again This isn’t TSA at your local airport.
What I find hilarious is that the entire movie and novel hinges on the bloodline of Jesus of Nazareth but if he had a child 2000 years ago then there are millions of his descendants walking around today. There's a good chance that anyone reading this comment could be descended from Jesus and countless other figures from history.
But God has to drown all those retarded people and save Noah's family to do it all over again. And we are now double retarded. He doesn't make mistakes.. Oh but wait until Jesus.. lol
Imagine your Tom Hanks, world class actor and lead in this big movie, except for the 8 minutes that it's Ian McKellan's movie and you become essentially an extra
@@psychospoiler Would you say the same of other religions too? Or are you singling us out because you fear us, and our message of peace and hope and light.
The thing that always aggravated me about this theory, and something I've never understood why no one else seems to realize, is that IF this is true, and a descendant married into the Merovingian royal family, as is claimed, then there are MANY, MANY descendants of Christ, myself included. Charlemagne was married to a Merovingian princess, and from that marriage, there are THOUSANDS of us, if not more descended from them. And that doesn't even take into account all the people descended from other Merovingians over the years. There could literally be millions of people from the bloodline of Christ IF this theory is true!
I love this movie. And thanks to this scene, I can never look at the Last Supper the same again. I recommend this movie to anyone along with the novel.
You do know that this is fiction correct? That isn't Mary Magdalene, its St. John. He's portrayed as a youth by ancient greek standards, which is what Da Vinci was portraying. Interesting movie, bad history.
@@guiwhiz The painter, Leonardo Da Vinici. That's my source. Plus because I know scripture and history, John is always portrayed as young looking as he is the youngest apostle. And seeing as Renaissance painters took much from the greeks, youth was always portrayed with femininity. A simple web search wouldve told you all of this.
@@ratatoskr9366 Wow you spoke to Leonardo Da Vinci?! Or.. perhaps.. you read a hearsay account of somebody who SAID they spoke to Da Vinci and SAID that he SAID it was John?
Everytime I watch it I think it is too pushy in its portrayal as an intelligent movie. It’s a scavenger hunt that chose to include Biblical characters and events.
I would have liked Ian McKellen as Leigh to be a recurring character in dan browns movies. Being him as the secret antagonist of this movie kind of irritates me. He could be critical character in angels and demons or inferno.
The last time Gandalf delved into old scriptures, he damn well figured out the ruse of the one ring to rule them all. Let the tired man have his peace in being correct again!
They filmed this movie really close to the town I grew up in and they actually filmed in and around roslin Chappel where some believe the holy grail is
I really loved that Ian Mckellen defends Mary Magdalene whenever she's called a "prostitute". Mary Magdalene, in other words, was not only a remarkable hard-working woman who had her own fishing business, but she was one of Jesus' truest disciples who stood by him through thick and thin and was the only one there at his crucifixion next to his Mother while everyone else fled in fear and abandoned him. She deserves all the respect.
Well to be more specific. The movie didn't got heat because people hated it. It was because this movie went and challenged the very foundation of Christianity. By saying that Jesus didn't died staying as a virgin but that he had a relationship with Madeline and more importantly bared a child with her. In which the church, at the time, understandably renounce that implication. As well wanted the people to skip seeing the movie because of it.
@antonionunez3759 because it's stupid. Imagine making a movie about an ancient religion, and making claims about it... based on... a painting... from an unrelated painter 500 years ago. So DaVinci didn't paint a chalice... and? Is he some important figure in Christianity and its origin?? No. The movie is for stupid people who want to pretense an 5 cent education and rebel against God.
because it challenges their religion I personally believe its true about Mary Magdelen and I am a full Roman Catholic. Never took the Bible for 100% truth as it was written by men and men are imperfect.
@@christopherm4662 Hardly more stupid than the claims the religion itself makes - tortured efforts to reconcile contradictory accounts of events written generations after the events and coming from a tradition that didn't value a documentary approach?
@@jeffreymiller6847same. I’m Catholic and this rings true to me. I won’t renounce my faith yet I understand that the Bible has magic and fiction and motives
The bible has historical ties and the Catholic churchhas been a running institution and patron of science for over a thousand years. The Old testament is reference but not the core of Christianity that would be the new testament, The Old testament has more importance in the Jewish tradition than Christianity
@@lettuceman9439 Umm... bit of a stretch there to say the Catholic Church has been a 'running institution and patron of science for over a thousand years'... in the 11th century the Catholic church was anything but that. Recall that the Catholic Church in the 1630s accused Galileo of heresy for disagreeing with the idea of the Sun and all the other planets revolving around the Earth and had him before the Inquisition forcing him to recant and live under house arrest for the remainder of his life. Not exactly a 'patronage', yes?
Never understood why they made Langdon a skeptic, in the book he was well educated historian and he only saw it as a historian. Or why they changed that the grandfather was not her grandfather.
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I love this scene. True or not, I love to simply listen, the theories, the history, philosophies, the possibilities, and secrets of the past.
I love the fact that they manage to do the ONE thing that freaks the CHurch out...... The one thing that made them demonize this movie... they make the public say the 2 most dangerous words - WHAT IF?
Read the secret doctrine of Jesus Christ.
This was taken exactly from that book.
Secret doctrine of Christ?
@@wolfofhell7548 Secret doctrine of Jesus by H. Spencer Lewis.
@@wolfofhell7548 If you haven't read it I would recommend it.
Certainly an interesting read.
"Robert, will you fight fair?"
Such a golden chemistry between these two
Robert: She may have
my favorite line of the movie
Sir Ian McKellen absolutely dominates this scene. What a powerhouse!
“Witness the greatest cover-up in human history” - chills & goosebumps
I always thought the existence of E.Ts and the cover up will be bigger
Sounds like the start of a bug documentary
What if it's like Prometheus and Jesus was an alien sent down to teach us and we killed him. @@snowman7469
@@snowman7469 ET’s I have a feeling, want nothing to do with us. I don’t think they’re even interested in conquest. Anything that’s advanced enough to come this far into the universe is smart enough to know they don’t have to waste resources on a war, they need only sit by and will do their job for them.
@@snowman7469 Nah that would just confirm one thing, but this conspiracy about christ as they said in the movie, would turn the very foundations western civilization is founded on to dust.
*Mary of Magdala was a dignified woman, independent and had a wealth of her own, to her name. I couldn't say for certain that she was Jesus's wife, but it's clear that she was one of the most, if not THE most, trusted and truest disciples (apostles) of Christ. She was a woman ahead of her time. She deserved, and still deserves, more respect and even reverence.*
Apparently so, then the Gnostic published her book in the 400AD.
Completely agree. But if Jesus wasn't divine as they seem to be saying, then Mary, the disciples and the Grail aren't important in the grand scheme of things at all.
there is an Arte tv doc about her. She is really the mother of the Christian faith.
@@spex76 Not true, if we managed to get actual proof Jesus was a living man then it absolutely destroys the church, the illusion of Christs divinity would be shattered.
@@appocalypsechild Then why would Mary of Magdala be so revered? It would destroy the Church If Christ wasn't divine. But if Christ isn't God, then Mary is not important, just like the other followers of Jesus aren't important. They are all raised up simply because of who Jesus is
I remember being shook to the core reading this book when I was younger. So happy I experienced both the book and the movie.
Illuminati 😮
Anyone else love Ian McKellen’s voice?
He does have a very comforting voice.
He is a simply outstanding actor.
Just hearing him made me consider the possibility that Jesus had a bloodline since he came from David anyway
I mean...everyone. That's one of the reasons he's a famous actor.
He could read the yellow pages and I would enjoy it
When I read the book I read this in his voice.
I love how offended he got when she called Mary "the prostitute". You can feel the anger he has for this woman he doesn't even know being slandered thousands of years later
You can understand it though given how high his character clearly holds Mary Magdalene up as the very ideal of his belief in the sacred feminine. It doesn't set well at all with him given his ideology that the church unfairly and falsely blackened her name and part in Jesus ministry by lowing a high status woman who he believes was Jesus's wife to being a mere prostitute. Saying Mary was a prostitute to him was basically like someone saying to a Christian that Jesus was a false messiah.
Slander someone by calling them a prostitute? That is very offensive to actual prostitues, sir.
@@ProfessorPrel okay? They shouldn't be proud of their jobs anyways 🤷🏻♂️
@@ProfessorPrelthe story is actual more complexe than that remember this is fiction.
She is a saint in the church, smeared by who?
Easy way to make your plot exposition scene feel epic, cast Ian McKellen and have him narrate it.
Ian McKellen, Morgan Freeman, Gene Hackman. Top three worthy Narrators of human history.
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Old British guys sound educated and authoritative. This would not work with a Filipino accent. 😂
Before you blast me I’m Filipino. Now if I was giving boxing advice then it would be flipped.
Sir David Attenborough.
Well, he used some visual aids. Love the darkened room and illuminated painting
He's got a one of a kind voice
doesn't matter what you watch
when he speaks you know who is speaking
Ian is such a good actor. I love the bit where when the woman mentions that Mary was a prostitute and you see his character get visibly upset.
Yes, Ian is a fantastic actor, unfortunately Richard Harris didn’t think so, hence why Ian refused the role of Dumbledore when he was approached to replace Harris when he died,
Look up Helena of Adiabene. She wasn’t in the brothel by choice.
When you know that Judas Iscariot is Judas of Galilee head of the Sicarii you recognize the name games played by Saul of Tarsus.
He gives characters the most common names in Judea at the time; Miriam, Yeshua and Judah. Simon is really popular in that time period as well.
James is Jacob and also a very common name.
Look up when Parables were thought to first appear in literature. And then look up how prominently they feature in the Dead Sea Scrolls, then come back and tell me how the dates of the Dead Sea scrolls commonly agreed upon make sense with the dating of parables.
I’m with him. I remember someone explaining the book to me before I read it,wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Raised Catholic & attended catholic HS & college. Of course we took Theology classes. The church was known for its role of keeping women down. No surprise there.
@@samanthab1923 kept everyone dumb, down and economically depressed.
It was an extension of the Roman system of controls, that’s why they opposed translating the Bible for over 1500 years.
Five hundred years ago 99% of people were totally illiterate, within 500 years of the King James translation, illiteracy in the English speaking world is virtually nonexistent.
Which brings me to the Arian Christians and the Goths. Gothic was a language made into a written form by the Arian Bishop Wulfila who did so to translate the Bible into the native language of the goths. Arianism was exterminated by the Roman Catholics for this, even though the gothic translation predates the vulgate, meaning that the Arians were putting the Bible into their people’s native languages before the official Roman Latin version was even commissioned in the first place. So the Romans, as seems to be the only way they ever knew, would slaughter anyone who disobeyed what they wanted done, using their power and influence to gather armies of the same people they largely oppressed to kill those who were seeking to liberate them.
@@samanthab1923 I left the church after I read this book.
Never in my life have I had more goosebumps, teary eyes and full undivided attention than watching this scene for the first time
Thats because it actually makes logical sense more than the other story does
@@scottadams4655it makes more sense that you can reach god through sex?.. how about it’s all just a biological function of evolution?.. there is no god to be reached. It’s just physics and chemistry. Same with drugs. Plus men and women need each other for reproduction. It’s stupid.
Makes you wonder why the niacean council chose the books they did. There's so much more left unsaid in the Gospels which were not canonized. Including ones where Jesus isn't God.
Actually none of them have that.
It was added in later🤫
Teary eyes? Why?
@@mikeh5656 you wouldn’t get it
I remember reading this book for the first time, getting to this part where the Last Supper painting is explained. I froze, put the book down, hopped online, looked at the painting and By God! How did I miss all that? Brilliant stuff.
You mean the cup. A priest in our church told about that and told a story about it.
The tale goes that when Da Vinci finished the fresco, all of his students admired how the cup/holy grail was well painted. Da Vinci upon hearing this decided to remove it for the reason that the painting should focus on Jesus's glory at the time of the last supper. Whether this is true or not I cannot tell but still fascinating.
One problem, the Holly Grail isn't a cup it's actually a metal plate or dish that the cup sat on.
It's a well accepted editorial error.
It's because the event Leonardo Da Vinci is chronicling in his Last Supper takes place after the meal has concluded. In the painting, Jesus has just announced to the Twelve Apostles that one of them will betray Him.
Not really brilliant. There is no chalice because it is the end of the meal. The disciples in the painting are reacting to what Jesus has just said, that one of them would betray him. There is no Mary Magdalene in the painting -- the one who he says is Mary Magdalene is John the Evangelist.
@@davidvarley1812run that by me again?
I love this scene, it always gives me goosebumps just the idea of all actually being true. And Sir Ian's voice is so unique
It’s not true though. Most of what he said is complete bullshit made up for the movie
i think Lawrence Gardner makes a good case. He believes the only way to prove whats true or false would be to travel back in time and record the actual words spoken and events. if it wasn't for the bloody, money and power hungry history of a "lets pretend were catholic" church, some people would not be so curious. Was a " self serving, ,female surpressing desease invented in order to offer a cure" ?
@@chrisastin184 You might want to read the Bible:
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47 Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
48 He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
@@yew2oob954 ok your point? The Bible has been translated so many times you don't know what it originally said. That doesn't change the fact that they get simple history wrong in the movie to fit their narrative.
@@chrisastin184 My point...you claim they get something wrong historically...so clearly YOU are claiming that YOU know what the Bible originally said. My point is that your entire belief system is false so this movie may get some things wrong about something that is COMPLETELY wrong.
Ian McKellen would have been a great history teacher
Oh, if only! I’d sign up for a class in a heartbeat! Hell, I’d happily be in the waitlist!
The backlash to this scene alone was probably why the early Assassin's Creed games had to include disclaimers about being works of fiction
nah Ezio and Davinci were chill like that (historically accurate)
@@willct8026 "Books are written by people, Mr. Miles. People used to write books about the world being flat."
Dan Brown made multiple mistakes in history and geography. It is a potboiler of a novel but, as the lawyers would say, it assumes facts not in evidence, and misrepresents actual locations and events. You will be entertained...but not educated.
The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, even with its hypotheses disproved for long now, it’s a much more entertaining book that The Da Vinci Code.
Tom Hanks is genuine movie star. His choices of movie scrpits are excellent.
Whatever you choose to believe or not believe about this, the way it was written and acted almost makes the story more plausible than it most likely is.
This is why I got all the Dan Brown books
Simply brilliant
This scene gives me chills every time
Yeeeah😮
😂
It NEVER gave you chills.
You people really need to stop bullsh###ing
This one and the end where Langdon goes down The Rose Line! Also, in Angels & Demons when the explosion occurs.
I would like to spend a lot of time in that study room, reading old books, discovering old secrets, and play some Age of Empires 2 when I'm tired of reading.
Perfect casting of Sir Ian... brilliant in the role
Ian McKellan could read the phonebook and he would keep 100% of your attention.
Ian McKellan, Patrick Stewart, Charles Dance....they could read menus and we're still going to stop and listen.
I don't know why, I have seen every Tom Hanks movie out there. Yet, this is my favorite movie he's been in, next to You've Got Mail. I love seeing both sides of an actors abilities. For him, drama and comedy.
The biggest plot twist of the entire novel. I love history
This is not history. It's fiction.
History 😂😂lol.
@@KuchNahiBasAiseHiis the sale of novel banned now ?? Am an curious indian , know less about this . Explain me please.
Audrey Tautou is stunning in this movie. Such a natural beauty.
She is very beautiful
Davinci painted the last supper around 1498. Like most renaissance painting someone paid, chose the scripture and posed for the painting. Now, this was over 1400 after Christs death, the fact that some people take this scene to be real amazes me. Just like the painting of Jesus, it was literally a patron that posed for the painting. Amazing.
DaVinci is known for Hiding msgs in his paintings. Like the image of Brain around God in 'The creation of Adam'.
And DaVinci was part of Illuminati.
So, its very probably he was hiding the Truth about Mary magdalene and Christ in this painting, irrespective of whether posed by a patron or not.
In the movie, the reason that they used "The Last Supper" as a "proof" or a puzzle is that it was hinted that Leonardo was a member of the Priory of Sion, not solely on the contents of the painting.
Leonardo, proven time and time again to be a man of passion, probably used his dearest art to scatter proof of Jesus's humanity, which I think makes absolute sense. That being in the movies/books universe, of course.
In one way or another, I find the idea of Jesus Christ having a child to be plausible. Even if there isn't any proof (at least verified), he was, quite simply, a man. He had desires like any other person, so finding a partner (in this particular case, a wife) and having children is not a far stretched idea.
But that is another topic, of course.
Well... the fact that people still think that magic is real, amazes me. 100+ old religions are "mythos", but this one is the real deal. People should not be this stupid. But here we are. That some people then take this scene as real, is not really that farfetched.
Yeah yeah…it’s not the painting it’s DA VINCI…the whole point of it is that Leo was part of the whole secret society to keep the descendants of Jesus a secret. It’s what’s supposed to explain all his art work and inventions….
Literally, to be a Rabbi at the time, the man had to be married...
I’ve loved Ian McKellan since high school. It was a recording of ‘Hamlet ‘ and ‘Acting Shakespeare’. 😁🥰 🎭
This scene shows the dangers of looking to much into history and forgetting that while much of our views on history are interpreted as best we can, hard facts in history do exist. If for no other reason to remind us not to become fanatical in our beliefs about the past.
Actually we have to be even more careful than that. Historical 'facts' aren't necessarily 'provable' in the sense we have writings of them and sometimes writings from two or more sources. None of that makes it a 'fact' simply because it was written down. The further back you go the less clarity we have on what actually transpired.
I know Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute
The writing for this scene is incredible, so convincing too
This was the first time i read the book before seeing the movie, and i remember reading this particular scene in the book and in my mind i was thinking Ian McKellen would be great as the role of Teabing if they ever made a movie. Low and behold months later he was announced
Intrigue to the point of freezing someone, so well written and so beautifully made into a movie: masterpiece...
The real title of the picture is "So how are we splitting this bill?"
Family Guy ?
Lol I never seen family guy but just looked it up,, Good to be on same wave length@@m.r.rohithkrishnaa1398
And please don’t forget the Tip!..
There they are, McKellen with a very British accent and Hanks with a very American accent. They nailed them perfectly. If there's someday a film starring both of them, I would suggest to make it as a political drama, with McKellen portraying a British PM and Hanks portraying the President of the United States.
Love the Da Vinci code! Yea, this was the scene, the big revelation! Conspiracy theory or not, this version of the truth hits harder. Dan Brown is such a great writer, I remember I had a tough time putting this book down. The movie is great but somehow the book is better.
This is the greatest scene through the whole trilogy
"Historically inaccurate" absolutely, but close enough to fact that a non fiction document revealing all of this already existed long before The Da Vinci Code was written. The original author tried to sue for plagiarism but was denied because "historical evidence cannot be copyrighted". The Church tried to block this book/movie multiple times but was unsuccessful for fear of the damage it would cause to those whose faith was lacking. The documents mentioned here, the omitted gospels, translations for sangreal, companion and others... every source quoted in this segment exists but cannot be 100% verified as true (just like every part of any religious text) but are real enough to scare the church shitless, for good reason
if you're talking about The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, it presents ideas taken from a previous book from 1972, so it's plagiarism too, and has nothing historical in it. Your mind wants to read what you want to believe, to paraphrase McKellen.
@@thegp2008 You're absolutely right. A magical reincarnating superhuman doing magic, the global ecosystem confined to a wooden boat and the entire human race propagating form a single mated pair with only sons makes far more sense
Uh, this entire historical premise of the Da Vinci Code is utter hogwash. It takes precisely two seconds of actual historical research to debunk massive chunks of Dan Browns ridiculous claims. It’s conspiracy theory nonsense.
@@kriddius To be fair, that's a fairly narrow view of the concept of Christianity. To the point of being disingenuous. Pull it back a bit.
@@ch3nz3n I will not. When a faith claims their ancient fairytales are the one and only truth you must accept all of it or none at all. It only seems disingenuous because of how stupid it is to anyone but an indoctrinated child
this was the best scene of that movie
It was good but I prefer the scene where Tom Hank's character tells her she is the end of the bloodline.
I can relate to this scene. I too have a copy of the Malleus Maleficarum lying around and toss it at people during conversations about Jesus...
I'd love to come over for afternoon tea, if I was ever invited 🎉
Once I got to Milan, Italy I stood in front of the fresco thinking that I just found "Proof". Then it dawned on me, this is not a snapshot. It is a painting. And yes, the woman is Mary Magdalen. And yes the Vatican leaves this subject as a true mystery. The nuns told me they hoped it was true and then giggled together.
You are absolutely right. If someone painted homie the clown on it a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago or even today, that doesn't mean that's what really happened. On the show mythbusters, the art museum host pointed out that if you look hard enough you can find the alphabet soup in the whole painting. Furthermore, the painter Leonardo DaVinci was a known homosexual and many of his paintings were of androgynous men. Look up his painting of 'john John the disciple or it may be John the baptizer but he also looks like a lady.
I saw this when it first came out with some chums. Edge of my seat the whole time. The book was even better.
This scene ,i cannot imagine without Ian mckellen.what an incredible performance!!!!
I feel like Sir Ian McKellen would be perfect somewhere in an adaptation of Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings.
This movie is the prequel to LOTR part 1 or had you not realised?
Um, reading it or being Gandalf
Please tell me this was a joke😅
Perhaps a wizard, eh?
The history and secrets echoed by Ian Mckellen is masterful and elegant; very well done.
Several great things about this movie :
1. Young(er) Tom Hanks made scholarly Tom Hanks
2. Sir Ian McKellen
3. Follow the novel faithfully
4. (Younger) Paul Bettany
5. Hans Zimmer
hollywood loves to throw shade at things like this all the time
Because history is written by the winners - who can write what they want and not necessarily the truth.
Ah yes , The Da Vinci Code, back when Dan Brown really churned out page turning thrillers.
Sir Ian Mckellen carries this lik a boss! What a legend!
Many people don't realize that Christ was followed and financially supported in ministry by women of great wealth. Mary Magdalena was The Master Apostle/Teacher to the other 12. The discples were used to spread the gospel, but Mary Magdalena Was The Church.
Always love how Leonardo knew all the secrets when he painted this. It's like he was there and took a photo.
The whole sequence does not make sense. Leonardo lived in the 15. century, why would he know the secrets 1500 years after? And the witchhunts took place at the same time and not during the middle ages, also 1500 years after. What happened during that long time? For clarification: Thats 3 times longer then the timespan between Leonardo and us.
I can count at least one more pair of figures in that painting, leaning away from each to create the shape of a chalice in the negative space between. Potentially two more pairs.
this movie was panned but I loved it. not so much for the religious part but for the anagrams, cryptex, & the scavenger hunt w/ the treasure at the end. love this scene.
The reason why the critics panned was for the majority of the scenes dealing with Mary’s crypt. You could see the outline when the Crusaders went searching for it. They felt it wasn’t suspenseful enough I guess? Honestly millions of us read the book by time film came out. So it honestly didn’t bother me much. The book was a fun read.
If only it were true, it would be the greatest travesty the world has ever known. It would break the very foundations of religion.
So not a travesty, but a healing moment. Also - the majority of religions wouldn't be affected one way or the other.
foundations of religion? the foundation of religion has nothing to do with jesus' marital life. it has to do with him dying on the cross. married unmarried makes no difference.
@@AsifKhan-hf9zy Oh it does to Roman Catholic Church and the power, legitimacy, authority of Pope.
fun fact about the Malleus Maleficarum: it was written in large part due to the author, Heimrich Kramer's, incident with a woman named Helena Scheuberin. He was an insane priest whose sermons were described as 'heretical' by Helena, and she avoided and spoke out against them, and also allegedly spat at Heimrich and said: "Fie on you, you bad monk, may the falling evil take you".
Heimrich was so enraged that this woman spoke out against him that he put her and thirteen others on trial. However, the judge released her and the thirteen others with no punishment or light penance. Heimrich went insane over her winning the trial, and stayed in Innsbruck to 'continue the investigation against her' which meant stalking Helena, and the Bishop himself noticed this and banished him for his insane obsession over Helena.
This prompted Heimrich to write the Malleus Maleficarum. Which really makes you realize how it's essentially his own torture fantasies
good sir, i'll have you know this fact was not fun at all. indeed it is quite distressing and mildly terrifying.
@@nerminator8427 thank you
never ever insult Magneto, Tom. you would pay dearly.
This scene gave me chills & goosebumps. Church is full of lies & deceit here. Their excuse It's to give hope. Even in Angels & Demons as how it shows Camerlengo was in fact the bad guy but made it look like hero in the end.
🎉🎉🎉 This is my favorite, I love this scene, I probably replay it 6 or 7 times whenever I watch the movie 😁🔥
one of my favorite scenes in Movies period. just love seeing Hanks and Gandalf going back and forth on the mystery of Jesus
I have this image, Sir Ian makes his speech, and everyone is amazed. Then he pulls Holy Blood and the Holy Grail out of a pile, i bought this in the bargain bin a few years ago. It was also a BBC documentary in 82. Everybody turns around and goes home 😂.
My thing is France wasn’t France at that time. It was Gaul, I seriously doubt a pregnant woman would journey that far to a unknown land to have a child by foot or even by sea. It wasn’t like Gaul ( now known as France ) was like some wonderful place at that time. Caesar just conquered it like 30-40 years before.
it;d be the edge of the Empire, ideal hiding place from political powers
@@ZannNewman they had control of the entire land. If that’s the argument than Germany would make more sense.
@@alexevanoski4588 but you're totally fine with the idea of the holy family fleeing to egypt.
@@scottmatheson3346 makes more sense geographically. It’s not like the Roman Empire had pictures of them all over the empire. Again This isn’t TSA at your local airport.
It's all fiction buddy don't look too deeply into it 😂
I love how upset this movie makes people
Same I do too 😂, I also love the Lucifer series of DC which portrayed Lucifer and Lilith as good people and God and Angels as douche.
A beautiful scene... a well acted and well written... work of fiction.
Watched this movie a couple of times but now I finally get it.
As someone who has read the book... This hits differently
What I find hilarious is that the entire movie and novel hinges on the bloodline of Jesus of Nazareth but if he had a child 2000 years ago then there are millions of his descendants walking around today. There's a good chance that anyone reading this comment could be descended from Jesus and countless other figures from history.
most of the people who voted for trump are clearly descendants of jesus........
I find it more hilarious that we came from Adam & Eve and we fucked all our family from generations & generations and now we are all retarded.
But God has to drown all those retarded people and save Noah's family to do it all over again. And we are now double retarded. He doesn't make mistakes.. Oh but wait until Jesus.. lol
Imagine your Tom Hanks, world class actor and lead in this big movie, except for the 8 minutes that it's Ian McKellan's movie and you become essentially an extra
I truly believe that no actor living surpasses sir ian, he's truly a master of acting both stage and film
Masterclass in acting
"Of course, everybody should have a presentation ready at all times."
The Da Vinci Code is a good movie but nobody is seriously claiming that it's anywhere near factual. It's a work of fiction pure and simple.
as is christianity too
Was the greatest story ever told just that? A story?
Like the Bible, you mean.
Uh, and what makes any other version true?
@@psychospoiler Would you say the same of other religions too?
Or are you singling us out because you fear us, and our message of peace and hope and light.
The thing that always aggravated me about this theory, and something I've never understood why no one else seems to realize, is that IF this is true, and a descendant married into the Merovingian royal family, as is claimed, then there are MANY, MANY descendants of Christ, myself included. Charlemagne was married to a Merovingian princess, and from that marriage, there are THOUSANDS of us, if not more descended from them. And that doesn't even take into account all the people descended from other Merovingians over the years. There could literally be millions of people from the bloodline of Christ IF this theory is true!
Well it is said we were born in his image and likeness
I love this movie. And thanks to this scene, I can never look at the Last Supper the same again. I recommend this movie to anyone along with the novel.
You do know that this is fiction correct? That isn't Mary Magdalene, its St. John. He's portrayed as a youth by ancient greek standards, which is what Da Vinci was portraying.
Interesting movie, bad history.
Don't take the movie seriously. It is fiction -- it is all made up. No serious scholar of art would accept the silliness that is proposed here.
@@ratatoskr9366 What source are you referencing when you say the character sitting in the place of honor to Jesus' right hand is John?
@@guiwhiz The painter, Leonardo Da Vinici. That's my source. Plus because I know scripture and history, John is always portrayed as young looking as he is the youngest apostle. And seeing as Renaissance painters took much from the greeks, youth was always portrayed with femininity. A simple web search wouldve told you all of this.
@@ratatoskr9366 Wow you spoke to Leonardo Da Vinci?! Or.. perhaps.. you read a hearsay account of somebody who SAID they spoke to Da Vinci and SAID that he SAID it was John?
i absolutely love history, archaeology and antiques ... one day ill be a full working historian ...amen
Are you there yet?
I was in a Catholic school when this film premiered. My school and Religion teacher never mentioned Mary Magdalene.
Jesus Christ Superstar has her in it.
7:15 I love the way Ian Mckellen pronounces Malleus Malificarum...such distain and revulsion of such a thing.
You thought there was no witches among them
Love this movie, this scene, and Ian McKellen!!! 🥰
What's the name of it
@@FaithWhite-xz2fm The movie is called The DaVinci Code.
4:39 The only "well ackchually.." I respect xD
I never watched this before, it’s just showed up on my feed. I always thought this would be a lot smarter than it is.
why on earth would you think that? it's dan brown.
IAN IS A MASTERCLASS IN ACTING. Stole this scene!!!!!
I can watch all these 3 movies many times still learn something new every single time.. like how?
WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO BELIEVE and could remotely be possible
This movie was so famous when it got released but I've never heard anyone talk about it a few years later
because the catholic church didn't approve this, it's the same with a lot off highly religious catholics or christians
Everytime I watch it I think it is too pushy in its portrayal as an intelligent movie.
It’s a scavenger hunt that chose to include Biblical characters and events.
Because it sucks and relies way too much in the
Christianity is le bad 😅
I would have liked Ian McKellen as Leigh to be a recurring character in dan browns movies. Being him as the secret antagonist of this movie kind of irritates me. He could be critical character in angels and demons or inferno.
I really think this movie is slept on.
I second this 👍
Loved the book and the movie. Not religious or hung up on any dogma, which probably allowed me to do so.
This scene is the most intense but also is what the movie is all about
The last time Gandalf delved into old scriptures, he damn well figured out the ruse of the one ring to rule them all. Let the tired man have his peace in being correct again!
They filmed this movie really close to the town I grew up in and they actually filmed in and around roslin Chappel where some believe the holy grail is
I really loved that Ian Mckellen defends Mary Magdalene whenever she's called a "prostitute". Mary Magdalene, in other words, was not only a remarkable hard-working woman who had her own fishing business, but she was one of Jesus' truest disciples who stood by him through thick and thin and was the only one there at his crucifixion next to his Mother while everyone else fled in fear and abandoned him. She deserves all the respect.
Idk why people hate on this movie, it’s awesome
Well to be more specific. The movie didn't got heat because people hated it. It was because this movie went and challenged the very foundation of Christianity. By saying that Jesus didn't died staying as a virgin but that he had a relationship with Madeline and more importantly bared a child with her. In which the church, at the time, understandably renounce that implication. As well wanted the people to skip seeing the movie because of it.
@antonionunez3759 because it's stupid. Imagine making a movie about an ancient religion, and making claims about it... based on... a painting... from an unrelated painter 500 years ago. So DaVinci didn't paint a chalice... and? Is he some important figure in Christianity and its origin?? No. The movie is for stupid people who want to pretense an 5 cent education and rebel against God.
because it challenges their religion I personally believe its true about Mary Magdelen and I am a full Roman Catholic. Never took the Bible for 100% truth as it was written by men and men are imperfect.
@@christopherm4662 Hardly more stupid than the claims the religion itself makes - tortured efforts to reconcile contradictory accounts of events written generations after the events and coming from a tradition that didn't value a documentary approach?
@@jeffreymiller6847same. I’m Catholic and this rings true to me. I won’t renounce my faith yet I understand that the Bible has magic and fiction and motives
This makes more sense than alot of things , might all be true
Catholics didn't like this 💀
They don't like fairy tales about their fairy tales. lol!
The bible has historical ties and the Catholic churchhas been a running institution and patron of science for over a thousand years.
The Old testament is reference but not the core of Christianity that would be the new testament, The Old testament has more importance in the Jewish tradition than Christianity
@@lettuceman9439 Umm... bit of a stretch there to say the Catholic Church has been a 'running institution and patron of science for over a thousand years'... in the 11th century the Catholic church was anything but that. Recall that the Catholic Church in the 1630s accused Galileo of heresy for disagreeing with the idea of the Sun and all the other planets revolving around the Earth and had him before the Inquisition forcing him to recant and live under house arrest for the remainder of his life. Not exactly a 'patronage', yes?
@@TonyPerez816No, we don't like misinformation about the greatest man who ever lived. Simple
@@generalsheperd5864 an ironic comment since your religion is built on disinformation.
One of my favorite movie scenes..
I bet people were going crazy in the theater during these scenes. 😂
I read this 20 years before Dan Brown wrote this book : it’s called Holy Blood. Holy Grail
Does anyone know, can anyone tell me the name of the program that Ian Mckellen (Leigh Teabing) is using?
I have a feeling it's a Hollywood special effect thing and may not exist. I could be wrong. But if it does exist, I'd love to know too!
Never understood why they made Langdon a skeptic, in the book he was well educated historian and he only saw it as a historian. Or why they changed that the grandfather was not her grandfather.
2:34 That's St. John the Evangelist, the youngest of Christ's disciples. Medieval art portay him as a beardless man indicating youth.
Would have messed the whole scene up if Robert simply asked: How many apostles are there?
How many people do you see at the table?
true or not, for historical purposes its a very interesting theory.
No "royal" bloodline, just very human