Aidan. I think you may have hit on an idea for a series. Books or biographies written by F1 drivers or others associated with the sport. I would imagine Murray Walker's would be interesting to read and then make a video about it.
That comment about the champagne then the street sweepers is so true. During the driver's parade yesterday Lando was shooting t-shirts into the crowd and was a bit delayed. His driver went a bit quick to catch up and Lando lost his hat. Two marshalls decided a foot race was needed to decide who got it. As they got to it a paddock club ( very expensive seats) bus on a tour stopped and someone got out to get the hat. The boos raining down were almost as much as Max was getting, and they soon moved on, letting the marshals fight it out to great cheers. Just the British GP being the British GP.
I remember the crash. The pictures from the crowd showed the shock on their faces. There was plenty of it on mine. One other thing I remember. Though it was not blurted out in public, the first driver to visit him in the hospital (maybe apart from Ralf?) was Damon. Despite everything that had happened between them over the years, that would not surprise me if it is the truth. (Still a Damon fangirl after all these years!)
I remember seeing it live and the moment you realize Schumacher isn't getting out of the car, instead needs huge help, there was that feeling its very serious, instantly. the fact it was only broken leg, showed how much safety had improved from the early 90's already, though still question why there wasn't more tire wall on that corner back then?
@@Cynderfan35 The FIA were more reactionary than proactive back then. If Imola 94' didn't happen, a freak accident(s) elsewhere would have to happen before rule changes were introduced. Besides Elio De Angelis' death in testing, it had been more than a decade since a driver had been killed in F1. I believe this lead to complacency. More tire wall = Silverstone doing Silverstone things. I read of Kim Newcombe (Rider, 70's) complaining to the Course Clerk about needing more hay bales at Stowe only to be ignored. He then went on to crash the next day at Stowe and later died in hospital.
Then there's the story that Luca called his house. One of the kids said he was outside playing soccer. Luce supposedly told him if you can play football you can drive the car.
I do remember seeing a section of fans on TV cheering when they saw Michael hit the barrier which is when Murray Walker condemned them for their behaviour but the longer Schumacher stayed in the car, they piped down because I think by then they must've feared was this another big one - why wasn't he getting out of the car? Funnily enough, I had hoped/thought it was Irvine that went off until they have the blurb Schumacher 3 Scuderia Ferrari. It was pretty serious alright seeing him struggle to get out of the car. I didn't feel comfortable with Ferrari then putting their eggs into Irvine being the numero uno because that intensified my dad's interest because Irvine being (Northern) Irish meant he's fully engaged. And as I've mentioned here before, nothing enrages an Irishman more than seeing a British flag over Irvine's name and hearing God Save The Queen as national anthem. Having to invent stuff up to placate some of my dad's more Republican leanings was something I didn't enjoy. Anyway, I can honestly say I don't remember much else of the race itself, just the absolute shock that it happened to Schumacher and briefly fearing a Senna repeat which goes round in a 13/14 year old kid's brain.
I was a HUGE Salo fan back in the day,and thought "This is it! His big shot!" I have his 99 Ferrari helmet and 98 Arrows suit as my daily on GT7. Not enough people know about his 98 Monaco drive. He was the last modern driver to do that
Some say Ferrari prevented that from happening....I remember at the time it was very suspicious how Irvine was suddenly so slow at the end of the season...video please Aidan?
The first race I remember watching as a kid! I remember the crash while I was reading the big Formula 99 annual at my nan's. And 4 year old me blamed Eddie Irvine for it first lmao...
Mika Salo essentially won the German GP. But Ferrari made him let Irvine win. Salo never won another F1 race. Too bad. To this day it pisses me off, Irvine didn't even win the championship at the end.
Aidan - never forget this day as a fanatical 8 year old Schumi fan. Some friends and I have been discussing 94 into 95 that led to Schumi going to Ferrari over McLaren (discussed late 94 I believe on the back of the Bennetton carry on). Be a cracking video and/or several videos!
The Schu came back for the race in Malaysia. He finished 2nd to Eddie. A gift cause Eddie could still win the title. On the podium the Schu was standing and waving to everybody. No sweat at all. Mika couldn't stand. He had to sit down as the head and humidity was terrible.
I was there in the grandstand at the end of the hangar straight. It did indeed look like he went straight off at full chat. It always struck me as it taking ages to extract from his prancing horse. Don't really recall any cheering at The Michaels demise. Biggest cheer of the day without question was the one lap or so Damon led that day! Will definitely get his autobiog as a summer read....
What’s amazing is the Michael including Silverstone missed seven races and was still only 32 points from winning the championship that year. I read Dr Sid Watkins book about racing crashes and injuries and I think he said the nose cone pierced through the tyre wall as there was no conveyor belt protecting it and hit the concrete wall, and turned the nose cone, breaking his leg. Similar thing happen to Panis in 1997, although on that one, a former Prost Mechanic said it was because the front section on that car was bonded incorrectly.
@@AidanMillward Additionally, he happened to strike a "convex" point in the barrier -- that is to say, it was just past a gap in the wall, and the concrete wall was at a different angle to allow for this gap. Schumacher hit at the point where this angle in the barrier ends. If you think about the geometry, this would tend to mean the tyres would be slightly further apart than average -- increasing the extent to which the nose of the car would penetrate the tyres and go through to the concrete behind them.
This was the first race I really remember sitting down and watching after getting into F1 after playing the F198 playstation games for the previous 6 months.
I'm always baffled as to why people were confused by Michael keeping going. I thought it was simple, they'd just thrown the red flag, so he didn't know yet. But then he had his brake failure, so he never got the message... This was the moment that made me realise just what a risk this whole show is. For all of the 'boo hiss' and 'why do you root for the bad guy, mum?', it was rendered irrelevant watching this live. The delay and the curtains were sickening, I thought this 12 year old had just watched a man die on TV live. Thankfully that wasn't the case. The other strong memory was Saint Murray calling out 'British bias!' noting cheers from certain areas as the old enemy crashed out. "This is not at all funny." he intoned sternly. Indeed. As I say, this was my introduction to the brutality of racing. An incident so serious it was in the "Bongs" on the ITV News. The race itself brought its own disappointment for me with Hakkinen losing a wheel. Not a good day.
It's like the (as it's probably about to be called out) 2021 crash. Watch clips from the stands and it's a "HOLY SHIT" type of sound. Yeah, probably people going to be cheering it, but a collective gasp will be labelled a cheer by some.
@@AidanMillward I was at that race and people definitely cheered when Schumi crashed. It was what I call the usual British sarcastic cheering like when someone scores an own goal, the kind that us and the Aussies seem to have a monopoly on. It died down and stopped very quickly when he didn't get out of the car. The crash itself didn't look that bad on the big screens.
Loving your work as always Aidan. This story is actually quite close to me personally, as I think it's the closest me or my family will ever have come to being in F1. Reason being that my Mum was a nurse at Northampton General Hospital. She was on shift the day of this race and treated Michael that evening. He was kept in at Northampton overnight and then I think (though I would need to check) was well enough to be flown back to Switzerland to recover the next day. My mum only has nice things to say about him, she said he was so very polite and kind despite what he'd been through a few hours earlier.
Everyone says Schumacher was a gentleman off track and a prick on it. But I guess you’ll find that with loads of sportsmen. Cristiano Ronaldo is a prime example.
@@AidanMillward Is being a 'prick' on track what makes the great drivers, great? That they are ruthless and have a win at all cost attitude? That they will look for, and exploit, any advantage even if it may 'bend' the sporting side of things?
I was at this race, at the start/finish straight. When a replay of the crash was shown on the big screen, the moment his car hit the tyre wall there was definitely a big cheer that went up, but it did subside pretty quickly when it became clear this was a bad one and he wasn't getting out of the car.
I was there sitting in Luffield and as soon as he crashed that all those stands could see on the big screens a very big cheer went up, just for him crashing of course and no one knowing that he was injured.
Hey Aidan, I love the channel and content, but could you do a video about Schumy, that is about some of the great drives he had, instead about the times he/his team messed up (or cheated) or about how someone managed to beat him and it was epic because they were beating him? Or not. I'll still watch. Keep up the great work.
We was sat just before bridge corner. I was 10 years old and i remember the ambulance coming round and the crowd booing it as it went passed. It was crazy.
I was at the 1999 British GP. It was my first ever time attending an F1 race after 10 years of being an F1 fan, and as a Michael Schumacher fan, I was at Stowe Corner, in the small red-roofed VIP grandstand which is briefly visible on the extreme left hand side of the shot which was used to capture the overhead footage of Michael’s accident. He literally speared across the gravel trap right in front of my eyes, and I directly witnessed the aftermath of the accident(Except I wasn’t actually able to see Michael at any point because of those sheets being held up to shield him as he was being taken to the ambulance). Surreal wasn’t a strong enough word! 😳😕 On a more positive note, since you’ve mentioned Damon Hill here, I vividly remember the lap he led during that race. He got the biggest, loudest cheer of the whole afternoon. Which, looking back now and understanding better what an unpleasant time Damon was having, is even more fitting than it felt at the time! 🙂 Great video Aidan! 👌
Oh yeah, i remember this season. The season The Michael broke his leg and spent half the season out and couldn't possibly win the championship when he came back. He didn't even try to help his then team mate Irvine win the championship. (Eddie would have had to beat Mika) I did think The Michael was hurt bad in that crash, reminded Me at the time of Ayrton's.
7:58 I think the 1997 Brazilian GP was red flagged because of the single car of Barrichello. There had been a contact at the first corner between Hill and Fisichella, but they weren't able to move Barrichello's car so I think even without the contact they would have red flagged it because of Rubens' car. (it didn't help that the lap at Interlagos is pretty short and pretty much all the last sector is full throttle so really they had less than a minute to make a decision)
According to Herbie Blash, Charlie Whiting had pressed the red flag button by accident. Before Michaels brakes failed which would have required the red flag anyway.
I was actually there that day, I was stood on The Vale towards the exit of Stowe... However I was six years old at the time and the only thing I remember from that day was the plumes of gravel dust when Schumacher went off. Simpler times, man. 😂
I was there, it was my dad's 40th birthday gift, he's a huge Schumacher fan and well........we were sat at Becketts and so only realised what happened when the big screen to our left showed the Ferrari
I remember this race well. I was anything but a Schumacher fan and kinda went Yay!!!.... oh noooo.... That looks very bad..... Sure hope hes OK. By the end of the season I thought well if Irvine pushed Hakkinen to end Shumi would have won the championship hands down.
When I think back to this it always puts two things in my mind: 1. Poor Luca Badoer. Yes Salo worked out well as a substitute but Luca knew that car much better, what could have been. 2. How angering it is that Ferrari didn't go "All In" on backing Eddie. As soon as Schumacher came back it was all about him again. The F1 equivalent of Charlotte Flair.
Did you not see the Malaysian GP? Schumacher took pole by a full second and then let Irvine pass as he proceeded to block Hakkinen (DC slipped by, but he retired soon after). Despite deliberately going as slow as he could, he still took a fastest lap that was faster than anyone had done in quali. Irvine won that race, because of Schumacher's help and had Schumacher won in Japan, he only needed to finish 3rd. However, Irvine was way off the pace at Suzuka and was lucky to finish 3rd. Hakkinen was a bit too fast for Schumacher so it was all for nothing. Unless Schumacher threw that final race of course. Where Irvine really lost the championship was at the Nurburgring where Ferrari messed up his stop and he was unable to pass Gene in a Minardi for the final point. Had he taken 6th, all he had to do in Suzuka then was finish 2nd, which he could have, since he was 3rd in the end.
@@harmkuijpers6642 Yeah, after revisiting that season, Eddie wasn't shafted. The pace just wasn't there. You're right about Nurburgring, too. Mika and Eddie had a horrid race but Hakkinen managed to wake up when there was a chance of points. Eddie couldn't manage the same. As unreliable as that McLaren was, you could rely on it being quick.
I remember the crash, and remember watching it live. Yet it had completely left my brain that the incident was into Stowe! With weird blocky replay footage in compilations not showing the Hangar Straight beforehand, BTCC moments around that time, and a lack of track graphics on the broadcast like these days, it was possible to assume that it was into Bridge corner! But no, just ye olde Mandela effect and choppy compilations.
I think that must have been me cheering, stood on the roof of a mini bus parked on the inside of Stowe. There were quite a few dints in the roof after the GP , because of me jumping up and down oops
From the tv footage, there's a huge cheer as he goes off which stops as soon as he hits the wall. "yeeeeyyyy the baron is off......oh shit I hope he's OK" I still think Swirv dummied him, opened the door, slammed it in his kisser, causing The Michael to stamp on the brake. Remember he'd just been laughed out of Toad's office while trying to discuss 2000.
Thing is a “holy shit” type of exclamation in a huge crowd can sound like a cheer. It’s about like how the crowds at copse in 2021 sounded like a cheer but then you see the footage from the stand.
@@AidanMillward Certainly that too. But there's also an element of "the villain is having a spill, woohoo.....oh shit it's more than an oops"...we all wanna see the bad guy fall off, nobody wants to see him hurt.\ The most glorious sound in the world is the sound that goes through a race crowd when a driver emerges from a pile of parts. All the more so when you've been there for one that didn't end in a cheer.
You should make Nurburgring race where race direction changed the pattern of the lights to trick the drivers who had learned the pattern, which was a cheat at the time
One thing struck me with the immediate aftermath of the accident that left Michael Schumacher with a broken leg, Murray Walker's reaction about what some parts of the crowd were doing: "(...) I was disguested incidentally to see several spectators standing up, clapping their hands and cheering when they saw it [the accident] on the big screen. This is not at all funny," I don't know if this actually was the case (cheering out of malice), or (given how controversial he was at the time, given that Adelaide 1994 and Jerez 1997 were still fresh in people's minds) that they were thinking that he was just crashing out of the race, but I can certainly understand Murray getting a bit worried that it could be the case as he knew that drivers getting injured wasn't a laughing matter
IIRC it was the fact everyone had worked out it was a big one and he could be seriously hurt. Had The Michael just crashed, got out of the car and walked back I doubt Murray would have said anything
Something that I've been thinking about actually since the race, and rewatching the 99 British GP still gives me the same fear I felt watching it live when Schuey went off and they put up the screens around him, I expected the worst, as with USGP 2004 when Ralf had his giant crash. When did the Silverstone crowd get so tribal, was it pre or post 2021? I'm asking since Max got booed before the race even began. This wasn't good natured booing, this was genuine, hateful booing as a mate of mine put it in a text, to the point where Lando had to tell the fans to cut it out, Max isn't as bad as people think. Was that around pre 2021? I do remember Murray calling out people for cheering Michael being hurt back in 99 though but don't remember it getting as ugly or as nasty as it did yesterday too many times before though. Then again I spent Sunday at the Ashes, trading sledges with new Aussie friends. The difference was IMO it was all in good fun, we didn't boo when shane Warne's name was brought up, we didn't boo the Aussies when they did well, we just cheered and sang more for the English team EDIT: Yes I was one of those who voted for Boaty McBoatface, I regret nothing, only that it doesn't happen more often
It was post 2021 and tbh drivers at other tracks have gotten it as bad or worse Not excusing the booing as no one should be booing at a racetrack but yeah it was more post 2021 people annoyed with how 2021 ended plus the tribal aspect after Lewis was getting booed and Heckled at Zandvoort and Austria
I know this isn't the topic, but I am still pissed that the RV Boaty McBoatface was named something else. Naming one of the launches it carries aboard is not an acceptable substitute for the Goodship McBoatface that the entire internet is collectively owed.
I hope you realise that from 2:29 you basically list everything that makes me proud to be British, despite, you know, Brexit, the Tories, Prince Andrew, Brexit, Pokémon's Galar Region, Dexit and this stupid weather that can't seem to make its damned mind up, proud to be British! Also symbolises our sense of humour, look at Monty Python, still popular 50 years later! And I can attest that John Cleese is still in fine heath, I saw him at Comic Con Yorkshire a few weeks back!
The same nation that saw Birmingham London and Coventry flattened by ze Germans and the first thing anyone said was “bloody hell, now I’ve got to clean that up!”
@@AidanMillward The same nation that when the Luftwaffe dared come as far as Leeds, going after the tank factory, after hitting the Woodpecker Pub's outdoor bogs at Woodpecker Junction, jus looked out and thought "well, that cleared up his constipation"!
I remember that race well. Sure sounded like cheering on TV, but who knows. Ferrari could have taken that championship with Irvine but I am almost certain they purposely hobbled his car in Japan. Eddie was a bit of a Suzuka specialist so to see him perform so poorly and Michael not aid him kinda smacked of Ferrari sacrificing the championship as it would have looked a bit ridiculous for the #2 to take their first championship in decades, when they have paid Schumacher all that money to do it.
Or he just couldn't handle the pressure of a title fight. It also wouldn't be weird to have their number two take their first title in 20 years when their number one had been out for half the season due to an injury. I know Ferrari is capable of some comically bad decisions and their politics are generally the root of it, but no board is insane enough to throw away their first win in twenty years on purpose.
@@mrgalaxy396 You are totally missing the point. They specifically paid Schumacher a butt load of money to win the title and he failed three times, so having the #2 win, regardless of why would be serious egg on face. Plus Irvine was not longer happy playing second fiddle, hence his jump to Jaguar. He would have taken the #1 with him and Ferrari would not want that.
@@turrican4d599 Did I say I expected him to win it that year? I just said 1996 to 1998 he failed to win, not that he should have or could have ... only a fool lacks reading comprehension.
i always think people are disrespectfull when talking about mika and 99.....the whole schumacher wouldve won...we dnt know that ......for all we know hes crashes or retires from those races he missed....mika has even said himself he felt under motivated after michaels crash n that it affected hunger and desire ...look how much better he was in 2000 !!
Yeah. When your main opponent is out it must feel odd. Like Rocky and Apollo would be preparing for match and then other one is pulled out and replacement is some amateur. Michael always brought best performance out of Mika.
I’m kinda done with the Ferrari hype. They’ve created their own myth, but they’ve never really lived up to it except for being around all that time. Porsche roadcars were daily drivers whereas Ferraris have always been snowflake divas. It took the NSX to teach them otherwise. In racing, they’ve always been there but they haven’t really won all that much. Except for the Schumi/Todt/Brawn era, when none were Italian. Basically, it’s the myth and nothing else
I really wish Damon had just gone away. Herbert, maybe Jos or even Nakano would at least have tried to be competitive and EJ would have had more money to develop the car given Damon's big salary. Hiding behind mental health can only get you so much sympathy (I know from experience) and for someone Murray was touting as the second coming of Fangio for his whole career to be off the pace made Murray look like a bad commentator (he was heavily biased to the Brits and especially Damon but I'd let it slide to save my sanity) but when he was so far off the much slandered HHF then it goes from sympathy to anger that he was wasting a competitive car. And suzuka was just bloody childish
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Aidan. I think you may have hit on an idea for a series. Books or biographies written by F1 drivers or others associated with the sport. I would imagine Murray Walker's would be interesting to read and then make a video about it.
Seconded!! 😃
That's a bloody great idea!!
Yes
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That comment about the champagne then the street sweepers is so true.
During the driver's parade yesterday Lando was shooting t-shirts into the crowd and was a bit delayed.
His driver went a bit quick to catch up and Lando lost his hat. Two marshalls decided a foot race was needed to decide who got it. As they got to it a paddock club ( very expensive seats) bus on a tour stopped and someone got out to get the hat. The boos raining down were almost as much as Max was getting, and they soon moved on, letting the marshals fight it out to great cheers.
Just the British GP being the British GP.
It’s like the “it’s coming home” thing with the football. We’re laughing at ourselves, everyone else thinks we actually think that 😅
I remember the crash. The pictures from the crowd showed the shock on their faces. There was plenty of it on mine.
One other thing I remember. Though it was not blurted out in public, the first driver to visit him in the hospital (maybe apart from Ralf?) was Damon. Despite everything that had happened between them over the years, that would not surprise me if it is the truth. (Still a Damon fangirl after all these years!)
Rivalries go out the door when something like that happens.
I remember seeing it live and the moment you realize Schumacher isn't getting out of the car, instead needs huge help, there was that feeling its very serious, instantly.
the fact it was only broken leg, showed how much safety had improved from the early 90's already, though still question why there wasn't more tire wall on that corner back then?
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The FIA were more reactionary than proactive back then. If Imola 94' didn't happen, a freak accident(s) elsewhere would have to happen before rule changes were introduced.
Besides Elio De Angelis' death in testing, it had been more than a decade since a driver had been killed in F1. I believe this lead to complacency.
More tire wall = Silverstone doing Silverstone things. I read of Kim Newcombe (Rider, 70's) complaining to the Course Clerk about needing more hay bales at Stowe only to be ignored. He then went on to crash the next day at Stowe and later died in hospital.
When schumi came back he was better then ever
The very race a friend introduced me with F1. Even I had soon had the idea that ‘that guy’s crash’ was a big thing in the context of the sport…
Then there's the story that Luca called his house. One of the kids said he was outside playing soccer. Luce supposedly told him if you can play football you can drive the car.
I do remember seeing a section of fans on TV cheering when they saw Michael hit the barrier which is when Murray Walker condemned them for their behaviour but the longer Schumacher stayed in the car, they piped down because I think by then they must've feared was this another big one - why wasn't he getting out of the car? Funnily enough, I had hoped/thought it was Irvine that went off until they have the blurb Schumacher 3 Scuderia Ferrari. It was pretty serious alright seeing him struggle to get out of the car. I didn't feel comfortable with Ferrari then putting their eggs into Irvine being the numero uno because that intensified my dad's interest because Irvine being (Northern) Irish meant he's fully engaged. And as I've mentioned here before, nothing enrages an Irishman more than seeing a British flag over Irvine's name and hearing God Save The Queen as national anthem. Having to invent stuff up to placate some of my dad's more Republican leanings was something I didn't enjoy. Anyway, I can honestly say I don't remember much else of the race itself, just the absolute shock that it happened to Schumacher and briefly fearing a Senna repeat which goes round in a 13/14 year old kid's brain.
I was a HUGE Salo fan back in the day,and thought "This is it! His big shot!"
I have his 99 Ferrari helmet and 98 Arrows suit as my daily on GT7.
Not enough people know about his 98 Monaco drive.
He was the last modern driver to do that
IIRC last driver to race the full length Monaco GP without making a pit stop?
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 yessir.
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 He didn't pit in 1997, but that race didn't go the full distance.
A very good driver that got screwed over by Toyota. But than again Toyota messed up all there drivers.
Irvine breaking Ferrari's title drought after all that investment in Schumacher would have been hilarious.
Which is why there’s a thing about Schumacher not bothering at Suzuka when he could have easily beaten Mika.
Some say Ferrari prevented that from happening....I remember at the time it was very suspicious how Irvine was suddenly so slow at the end of the season...video please Aidan?
@@havvacuppaeven more strange given that Eddie Irvine was a Suzuka specialist.
The first race I remember watching as a kid! I remember the crash while I was reading the big Formula 99 annual at my nan's. And 4 year old me blamed Eddie Irvine for it first lmao...
Mika Salo essentially won the German GP. But Ferrari made him let Irvine win. Salo never won another F1 race. Too bad. To this day it pisses me off, Irvine didn't even win the championship at the end.
I’m sure it was in Salo’s contract that if this situation occurred he would’ve had to let Irvine through. He knew the score.
Aidan - never forget this day as a fanatical 8 year old Schumi fan.
Some friends and I have been discussing 94 into 95 that led to Schumi going to Ferrari over McLaren (discussed late 94 I believe on the back of the Bennetton carry on).
Be a cracking video and/or several videos!
The Schu came back for the race in Malaysia. He finished 2nd to Eddie. A gift cause Eddie could still win the title. On the podium the Schu was standing and waving to everybody. No sweat at all. Mika couldn't stand. He had to sit down as the head and humidity was terrible.
And then at Suzuka went AWOL when he had the pace.
A few people found it all too convenient
I was there in the grandstand at the end of the hangar straight. It did indeed look like he went straight off at full chat. It always struck me as it taking ages to extract from his prancing horse. Don't really recall any cheering at The Michaels demise. Biggest cheer of the day without question was the one lap or so Damon led that day! Will definitely get his autobiog as a summer read....
I hope that book will be in Dutch too. I can read English. But an entire book get's a bit to much for some reason.
What’s amazing is the Michael including Silverstone missed seven races and was still only 32 points from winning the championship that year.
I read Dr Sid Watkins book about racing crashes and injuries and I think he said the nose cone pierced through the tyre wall as there was no conveyor belt protecting it and hit the concrete wall, and turned the nose cone, breaking his leg. Similar thing happen to Panis in 1997, although on that one, a former Prost Mechanic said it was because the front section on that car was bonded incorrectly.
That and the tyre wall was nowhere near deep enough for the sort of entry speeds that they had back then.
@@AidanMillward Additionally, he happened to strike a "convex" point in the barrier -- that is to say, it was just past a gap in the wall, and the concrete wall was at a different angle to allow for this gap. Schumacher hit at the point where this angle in the barrier ends. If you think about the geometry, this would tend to mean the tyres would be slightly further apart than average -- increasing the extent to which the nose of the car would penetrate the tyres and go through to the concrete behind them.
This was the first race I really remember sitting down and watching after getting into F1 after playing the F198 playstation games for the previous 6 months.
Oh F1 98...those were dark days for F1 gaming
F1 98 was an absolutely dreadful game. F1 97 is a solid gold classic however
I'm always baffled as to why people were confused by Michael keeping going. I thought it was simple, they'd just thrown the red flag, so he didn't know yet. But then he had his brake failure, so he never got the message...
This was the moment that made me realise just what a risk this whole show is. For all of the 'boo hiss' and 'why do you root for the bad guy, mum?', it was rendered irrelevant watching this live. The delay and the curtains were sickening, I thought this 12 year old had just watched a man die on TV live. Thankfully that wasn't the case. The other strong memory was Saint Murray calling out 'British bias!' noting cheers from certain areas as the old enemy crashed out. "This is not at all funny." he intoned sternly. Indeed. As I say, this was my introduction to the brutality of racing. An incident so serious it was in the "Bongs" on the ITV News.
The race itself brought its own disappointment for me with Hakkinen losing a wheel. Not a good day.
It's like the (as it's probably about to be called out) 2021 crash. Watch clips from the stands and it's a "HOLY SHIT" type of sound. Yeah, probably people going to be cheering it, but a collective gasp will be labelled a cheer by some.
@@AidanMillward I was at that race and people definitely cheered when Schumi crashed. It was what I call the usual British sarcastic cheering like when someone scores an own goal, the kind that us and the Aussies seem to have a monopoly on. It died down and stopped very quickly when he didn't get out of the car. The crash itself didn't look that bad on the big screens.
Loving your work as always Aidan. This story is actually quite close to me personally, as I think it's the closest me or my family will ever have come to being in F1. Reason being that my Mum was a nurse at Northampton General Hospital. She was on shift the day of this race and treated Michael that evening. He was kept in at Northampton overnight and then I think (though I would need to check) was well enough to be flown back to Switzerland to recover the next day. My mum only has nice things to say about him, she said he was so very polite and kind despite what he'd been through a few hours earlier.
Everyone says Schumacher was a gentleman off track and a prick on it. But I guess you’ll find that with loads of sportsmen. Cristiano Ronaldo is a prime example.
@@AidanMillward Is being a 'prick' on track what makes the great drivers, great? That they are ruthless and have a win at all cost attitude? That they will look for, and exploit, any advantage even if it may 'bend' the sporting side of things?
Mika hakkinen calling Ron Dennis calling the Ron always makes me laugh
I was at this race, at the start/finish straight. When a replay of the crash was shown on the big screen, the moment his car hit the tyre wall there was definitely a big cheer that went up, but it did subside pretty quickly when it became clear this was a bad one and he wasn't getting out of the car.
I was there sitting in Luffield and as soon as he crashed that all those stands could see on the big screens a very big cheer went up, just for him crashing of course and no one knowing that he was injured.
Hey Aidan, I love the channel and content, but could you do a video about Schumy, that is about some of the great drives he had, instead about the times he/his team messed up (or cheated) or about how someone managed to beat him and it was epic because they were beating him?
Or not. I'll still watch. Keep up the great work.
We was sat just before bridge corner. I was 10 years old and i remember the ambulance coming round and the crowd booing it as it went passed. It was crazy.
I was at the 1999 British GP. It was my first ever time attending an F1 race after 10 years of being an F1 fan, and as a Michael Schumacher fan, I was at Stowe Corner, in the small red-roofed VIP grandstand which is briefly visible on the extreme left hand side of the shot which was used to capture the overhead footage of Michael’s accident. He literally speared across the gravel trap right in front of my eyes, and I directly witnessed the aftermath of the accident(Except I wasn’t actually able to see Michael at any point because of those sheets being held up to shield him as he was being taken to the ambulance).
Surreal wasn’t a strong enough word! 😳😕
On a more positive note, since you’ve mentioned Damon Hill here, I vividly remember the lap he led during that race. He got the biggest, loudest cheer of the whole afternoon.
Which, looking back now and understanding better what an unpleasant time Damon was having, is even more fitting than it felt at the time! 🙂
Great video Aidan! 👌
This stuff is almost never new to me, but I like the videos anyway because they're always a fantastic, no fluff, summation of the topic :)
Oh yeah, i remember this season. The season The Michael broke his leg and spent half the season out and couldn't possibly win the championship when he came back. He didn't even try to help his then team mate Irvine win the championship. (Eddie would have had to beat Mika) I did think The Michael was hurt bad in that crash, reminded Me at the time of Ayrton's.
My first gp I went too. We saw the dust cloud at Stowe from Beckett's. The BAR for some reason was easily the best sounding car
7:58 I think the 1997 Brazilian GP was red flagged because of the single car of Barrichello. There had been a contact at the first corner between Hill and Fisichella, but they weren't able to move Barrichello's car so I think even without the contact they would have red flagged it because of Rubens' car. (it didn't help that the lap at Interlagos is pretty short and pretty much all the last sector is full throttle so really they had less than a minute to make a decision)
This is my earliest memory of F1. I was 5 at the time and I remember the medics holding up the sheets whilst they extracted Schumacher from the car.
According to Herbie Blash, Charlie Whiting had pressed the red flag button by accident. Before Michaels brakes failed which would have required the red flag anyway.
Your Story Times are Epic!!! Thank you for making content like this!
I remember half of Northampton going to the park near Northampton General Hospital to watch him arriving in the helicopter
I was actually there that day, I was stood on The Vale towards the exit of Stowe... However I was six years old at the time and the only thing I remember from that day was the plumes of gravel dust when Schumacher went off. Simpler times, man. 😂
Irvine smiling after Schumacher's crash told me that the Irishman is one of the most horrible human beings ever in F1.
I was there, it was my dad's 40th birthday gift, he's a huge Schumacher fan and well........we were sat at Becketts and so only realised what happened when the big screen to our left showed the Ferrari
Mika Salo did no bad in that Ferrari.
Good lad him.
great video
I remember this race well. I was anything but a Schumacher fan and kinda went Yay!!!.... oh noooo.... That looks very bad..... Sure hope hes OK.
By the end of the season I thought well if Irvine pushed Hakkinen to end Shumi would have won the championship hands down.
When I think back to this it always puts two things in my mind:
1. Poor Luca Badoer. Yes Salo worked out well as a substitute but Luca knew that car much better, what could have been.
2. How angering it is that Ferrari didn't go "All In" on backing Eddie. As soon as Schumacher came back it was all about him again. The F1 equivalent of Charlotte Flair.
Luca knew the 2009 Ferrari better than anyone else too and how did that work out? He was a good test driver, not a racer.
Did you not see the Malaysian GP? Schumacher took pole by a full second and then let Irvine pass as he proceeded to block Hakkinen (DC slipped by, but he retired soon after). Despite deliberately going as slow as he could, he still took a fastest lap that was faster than anyone had done in quali. Irvine won that race, because of Schumacher's help and had Schumacher won in Japan, he only needed to finish 3rd. However, Irvine was way off the pace at Suzuka and was lucky to finish 3rd. Hakkinen was a bit too fast for Schumacher so it was all for nothing. Unless Schumacher threw that final race of course. Where Irvine really lost the championship was at the Nurburgring where Ferrari messed up his stop and he was unable to pass Gene in a Minardi for the final point. Had he taken 6th, all he had to do in Suzuka then was finish 2nd, which he could have, since he was 3rd in the end.
@@harmkuijpers6642 Yeah, after revisiting that season, Eddie wasn't shafted. The pace just wasn't there. You're right about Nurburgring, too. Mika and Eddie had a horrid race but Hakkinen managed to wake up when there was a chance of points. Eddie couldn't manage the same. As unreliable as that McLaren was, you could rely on it being quick.
@@AndyFromBeavertonand he was out of the Sport for 10 years only doing testing
I remember the brief, but incredible cheer, when, due to pitstops 'HILL' was 1st on the leaderboard....
I remember the crash, and remember watching it live.
Yet it had completely left my brain that the incident was into Stowe!
With weird blocky replay footage in compilations not showing the Hangar Straight beforehand, BTCC moments around that time, and a lack of track graphics on the broadcast like these days, it was possible to assume that it was into Bridge corner!
But no, just ye olde Mandela effect and choppy compilations.
I think that must have been me cheering, stood on the roof of a mini bus parked on the inside of Stowe. There were quite a few dints in the roof after the GP , because of me jumping up and down oops
7.7k to Moreno!!!!
From the tv footage, there's a huge cheer as he goes off which stops as soon as he hits the wall. "yeeeeyyyy the baron is off......oh shit I hope he's OK"
I still think Swirv dummied him, opened the door, slammed it in his kisser, causing The Michael to stamp on the brake. Remember he'd just been laughed out of Toad's office while trying to discuss 2000.
Thing is a “holy shit” type of exclamation in a huge crowd can sound like a cheer.
It’s about like how the crowds at copse in 2021 sounded like a cheer but then you see the footage from the stand.
@@AidanMillward Certainly that too. But there's also an element of "the villain is having a spill, woohoo.....oh shit it's more than an oops"...we all wanna see the bad guy fall off, nobody wants to see him hurt.\
The most glorious sound in the world is the sound that goes through a race crowd when a driver emerges from a pile of parts.
All the more so when you've been there for one that didn't end in a cheer.
You should make Nurburgring race where race direction changed the pattern of the lights to trick the drivers who had learned the pattern, which was a cheat at the time
One thing struck me with the immediate aftermath of the accident that left Michael Schumacher with a broken leg, Murray Walker's reaction about what some parts of the crowd were doing:
"(...) I was disguested incidentally to see several spectators standing up, clapping their hands and cheering when they saw it [the accident] on the big screen. This is not at all funny,"
I don't know if this actually was the case (cheering out of malice), or (given how controversial he was at the time, given that Adelaide 1994 and Jerez 1997 were still fresh in people's minds) that they were thinking that he was just crashing out of the race, but I can certainly understand Murray getting a bit worried that it could be the case as he knew that drivers getting injured wasn't a laughing matter
IIRC it was the fact everyone had worked out it was a big one and he could be seriously hurt. Had The Michael just crashed, got out of the car and walked back I doubt Murray would have said anything
Something that I've been thinking about actually since the race, and rewatching the 99 British GP still gives me the same fear I felt watching it live when Schuey went off and they put up the screens around him, I expected the worst, as with USGP 2004 when Ralf had his giant crash.
When did the Silverstone crowd get so tribal, was it pre or post 2021? I'm asking since Max got booed before the race even began. This wasn't good natured booing, this was genuine, hateful booing as a mate of mine put it in a text, to the point where Lando had to tell the fans to cut it out, Max isn't as bad as people think. Was that around pre 2021? I do remember Murray calling out people for cheering Michael being hurt back in 99 though but don't remember it getting as ugly or as nasty as it did yesterday too many times before though.
Then again I spent Sunday at the Ashes, trading sledges with new Aussie friends. The difference was IMO it was all in good fun, we didn't boo when shane Warne's name was brought up, we didn't boo the Aussies when they did well, we just cheered and sang more for the English team
EDIT: Yes I was one of those who voted for Boaty McBoatface, I regret nothing, only that it doesn't happen more often
It's the same at Zandvoort, same at Monza. But then last year the Silverstone crowd let out that collective WHEEEYYYYYYYYY as Max spun and saved it.
Those screens put up around the Michael reminded me of the Grand National, and wondering if Michael was finished.
It was post 2021 and tbh drivers at other tracks have gotten it as bad or worse
Not excusing the booing as no one should be booing at a racetrack but yeah it was more post 2021 people annoyed with how 2021 ended plus the tribal aspect after Lewis was getting booed and Heckled at Zandvoort and Austria
@@MooncricketsInc yeah max fans really are a sort aren’t they. 🤪
Ah 1999 the year with the biggest one hit wonder championship challenger needing injury to have any shot
Easy solution - if you want to have the last race at Silverstone, just floor it headed into the fans...
Hilarious & tragical..... Love it
I know this isn't the topic, but I am still pissed that the RV Boaty McBoatface was named something else. Naming one of the launches it carries aboard is not an acceptable substitute for the Goodship McBoatface that the entire internet is collectively owed.
I hope you realise that from 2:29 you basically list everything that makes me proud to be British, despite, you know, Brexit, the Tories, Prince Andrew, Brexit, Pokémon's Galar Region, Dexit and this stupid weather that can't seem to make its damned mind up, proud to be British! Also symbolises our sense of humour, look at Monty Python, still popular 50 years later! And I can attest that John Cleese is still in fine heath, I saw him at Comic Con Yorkshire a few weeks back!
The same nation that saw Birmingham London and Coventry flattened by ze Germans and the first thing anyone said was “bloody hell, now I’ve got to clean that up!”
@@AidanMillward The same nation that when the Luftwaffe dared come as far as Leeds, going after the tank factory, after hitting the Woodpecker Pub's outdoor bogs at Woodpecker Junction, jus looked out and thought "well, that cleared up his constipation"!
Schumi should have been won '99 WDC and Kimi in '03.
Apparently, my cousin's ex was in the stand at Stowe When this happened and he missed it.
You need to get your facts right Aidan...
I voted to call that boat the W-Anchor not boaty mc boat face. It was not unanimous.
I remember that race well. Sure sounded like cheering on TV, but who knows.
Ferrari could have taken that championship with Irvine but I am almost certain they purposely hobbled his car in Japan. Eddie was a bit of a Suzuka specialist so to see him perform so poorly and Michael not aid him kinda smacked of Ferrari sacrificing the championship as it would have looked a bit ridiculous for the #2 to take their first championship in decades, when they have paid Schumacher all that money to do it.
Or he just couldn't handle the pressure of a title fight. It also wouldn't be weird to have their number two take their first title in 20 years when their number one had been out for half the season due to an injury. I know Ferrari is capable of some comically bad decisions and their politics are generally the root of it, but no board is insane enough to throw away their first win in twenty years on purpose.
@@mrgalaxy396 You are totally missing the point. They specifically paid Schumacher a butt load of money to win the title and he failed three times, so having the #2 win, regardless of why would be serious egg on face. Plus Irvine was not longer happy playing second fiddle, hence his jump to Jaguar. He would have taken the #1 with him and Ferrari would not want that.
@@caphowdy666 Failed in 1996? Only a fool would have expected from anyone to win a title in that car that year.
@@turrican4d599 Did I say I expected him to win it that year? I just said 1996 to 1998 he failed to win, not that he should have or could have ... only a fool lacks reading comprehension.
In the book does he ever mention Bob Mortimer and a Scotch egg..?
Eddie Irvine could have been the hero of 1999...
Too bad Ferrari didn’t hire “Robert Brown” as a substitute
i always think people are disrespectfull when talking about mika and 99.....the whole schumacher wouldve won...we dnt know that ......for all we know hes crashes or retires from those races he missed....mika has even said himself he felt under motivated after michaels crash n that it affected hunger and desire
...look how much better he was in 2000 !!
Yeah. When your main opponent is out it must feel odd. Like Rocky and Apollo would be preparing for match and then other one is pulled out and replacement is some amateur. Michael always brought best performance out of Mika.
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It should have been 9 times wc for Michael.
I’m kinda done with the Ferrari hype. They’ve created their own myth, but they’ve never really lived up to it except for being around all that time. Porsche roadcars were daily drivers whereas Ferraris have always been snowflake divas. It took the NSX to teach them otherwise. In racing, they’ve always been there but they haven’t really won all that much. Except for the Schumi/Todt/Brawn era, when none were Italian. Basically, it’s the myth and nothing else
Change the music! Piano jazz does not work for F1!
I really wish Damon had just gone away. Herbert, maybe Jos or even Nakano would at least have tried to be competitive and EJ would have had more money to develop the car given Damon's big salary. Hiding behind mental health can only get you so much sympathy (I know from experience) and for someone Murray was touting as the second coming of Fangio for his whole career to be off the pace made Murray look like a bad commentator (he was heavily biased to the Brits and especially Damon but I'd let it slide to save my sanity) but when he was so far off the much slandered HHF then it goes from sympathy to anger that he was wasting a competitive car. And suzuka was just bloody childish
Murray thought the sun shone out of Senna’s arsehole too but then he chopped and changed stuff depending on who we was talking to that week.
@@AidanMillward yeah, his commentary on estoril 89 was a beauty to behold
I honestly think he could of won it in a 1 point lead final battle if he stayed
If he didn't break his leg, he would only have 2 WDC
Explain
No, he would have had 8.
*8 WDC