Bran Stark is the Ultimate Villain of Game of Thrones ! | Game of Thrones Season 8
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And we are back to discuss our theory in which Bran is the ultimate villain of Game of Thrones, the ultimate evil who used his abilities to orchestrate the entire season 8, made Daenerys go mad, allowed Kings Landing and its 1 million people to burn alive, all so he, the Three-Eyed Raven could end up on the Throne.
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I totally agree with you. Bran caused everything! He is the true villain. How else could one explain his two quotes in the end “why do you think I came all this way” and “you were exactly where you were supposed to be”. He played (orchestrated) the game far better than Littlefinger and Varys ever could
This is not Game of thrones any more....This is the ultimate "GAME OF BRAN"..and he won in his own game
This is not Game of thrones any more....This is the ultimate "GAME OF BRAN"..and he won in his own game
This is what is known as "Hegelian Dialectic" and we have had this COUNTLESS times in fantasy like LotR and Harry Potter and sci-fi like SW. And this principle is MUCH older.
@@saymyname2417 no, like not at all, Hegelian dialectics is a way of viewing history that when two sides come into conflict it produces a result influenced by both sides, its a philosophical way of viewing history not a writing thing
@@juwebles4352 - You don't understand the use of Hegelian Dialectics in the entertainment industry.
I agree wholeheartedly with your belief that Bran is the villain, manipulating events to make himself the king of the six kingdoms - and Sansa queen of of the north. My only quibble is characterizing the Night King as trying to save humanity from Bran. Rather, I think the Night King was also evil, and wanted to reign over Westeros, but recognized Bran as his greatest foe in achieving this goal. And Bran bested him. The others were merely pawns in their game.
I agree with you.
Another weak point is how can night king die in one stab still shocked and confuesd he seems like a comedy to me like how he died so easily being a main villan
That was the really game of thrones and Bran won
They are simply rivals over who will reign over lesser mortals.
Or Bran and the Night King are both Avatars for the Great Other. It was all a rouse. It was a distraction to get Bran on the Throne.
Remember the Night King just looks at Bran and they just stare without emotions at each other.
Ending we deserved:
*Ned wakes up at WF*
Seven hells! I had a terrible dream, Cat.
Would have been the lamest ending ever. Glad you did not write season 8.
@@Daniel_Fo77 It's a joke. Its meant to show how S8 ending was a joke in itself.
@@guitarboy0211 Your bad joke does not show anything about the original show, just your lame sense of humour. I respect your opinion of the show. Although that also is just an opinion and not a fact.
@@Daniel_Fo77 It's not my joke. I'm not trying to insult you or anything, I'm just trying to convey what the original commenter was trying to convey through his comment.
@@Daniel_Fo77 your too serious
Season 8 had bad writing, and Dany’s decent into madness was poorly portrayed, but Bran having orchestrated the whole thing makes a lot of sense. He repeatedly told Sansa and others he could never be lord of anything to throw them off, all while knowing he’d become king. He’s wanted power for a long time, he wants Jamie and Cersei to pay for crippling him for life. He knew what Dany was going to do and he let it happen because he wanted the Lannister twins to die.
I don't believe Bran is the 3 Eyed Raven, I think Bran died in that cave and his body became a vessel for the 3 Eyed Raven, he can act like Bran because he has access to Brans memories, but ultimately I believe the 3 Eyed Raven is in full control and is evil, not Bran. The 3 Eyed Raven lured Bran north of the wall for one thing, to use him and carry on his work, to continue trying to defeat the Night King and finally seize power in the 7 Kingdoms. I come to this conclusion because we know a lot about Bran but very little about the 3 Eyed Raven, I think it would make more sense that the 3 Eyed Raven is actually evil but hid his bad intentions from Bran and his companions in order to secure Bran.
@@rocksjoshua It would have been a lot more interesting if it was revealed at the end that Bran was dead and the 3 Eyed Raven took his body. It would also automatically set up a prequel spin off people would be interested in and theres already some source material to adapt with blood raven and could easily expand on the white walkers which was part of what people felt disappointed by in season 8. It also would have made Dany's 7 season character development that got thrown out the window actually make sense and have a purpose rather then she just went crazy
Could Bran be both Bran AND the Three-Eyed Raven?@@rocksjoshua
Don’t forget Bran also told his “stories” to Tyrion in episode 2 after war council at WF. Thats the only reson Tyrion proposed him for a King. He played them all! Biggest player in GoT
I rarely bother with GOT videos anymore, but yours are worth watching, and this is also my feeling - that Bran is the ultimate villain. Whatever gave anyone the idea the Three Eyed Raven was on the side of good rather than evil? Why were the White Walkers so bent on destroying him, and the Children Of the Forest ( the ones that created them)? That’s not Bran, anyway, he is possessed by whatever it is that formerly possessed Brynden Rivers.
Also is it really a coincidence they went south as soon as Bran did? If they wanted to destroy humanity, they would have passed the wall a long time ago
100%
You’re god damn right
Exactly ! I never understood either noone ever noticed that among the 'ok tv serie ending fans'!..so enormous...and the final Tyrion 'genius character' major mistake ...enormous one like after the crypt, his incapacity to see Daenaris turn coming, etc.... but seriously, that 'Three Eyed Raven'..at the very least, it can be considered like a true neutral 'druid'/pre(post?!)human entity or some sort (in real Dungeon&D lore..)....maybe not 'evil', but at the very least pure absolute 'neutral', and sure not really a human spirit from the start (never really precised by GRR Martin anyway..apparently..his ultimate final trick planned?..or not..maybe just exactly what he wanted..his final 'hidden' message too..)...means, potentially a total disaster for human race still alive.....vaguely remembering me the 'Justice' character in the Dragon Age(2) videogames series.....talking about 'righteous' possession....and that's the one genius tyrion 'understood so well'.... and put on the final throne..well played, well played, again... ) not a single character salvaged, apart 'superpowers' SJW arya maybe...even the now traitorous Bronn rewarded (again by tyrion..)..even possible to become archmaster(?) without training etc now, in the new world (as long as you are blindly loyal to the new king apparently..)...and no one answering when the new King propose to simply send ravens to locate the missing dragon....pre total Surveillance society in the 'middle ages'...all good!.... at the very least!...on par with what is happening right now in our world, just kinda in advance and symbolically....progressive (no need to be 'strong' anymore..nor 'old'(arya), 'male'(sensa, Brienne of Tarth..), nor even 'moral' (Bronn..)...and an all seeing leader/government to check the population/dissidents at any times....geniuses D&D... as if they were agreeing metaphorically, actually....their hidden message in plain sight?... and if that was an evil in itself....then that is a very familiar evil..one we will have to face more&more for sure in the agenda2030 world...here&now..'geniuses D&D'..hidden message in plain sight actually, maybe..... ; * //
sunset002007 I also loved that nonsence with Bronn becoming one of the most powerful people just cause he threatened to kill him. Literally any cut throat could have done it. And Tyrion also made him master of coin!!?? The guy who doesn’t know what the loan is and Tyrion had to explain it to him in season 4. Also, the King doesn’t have influence on the Citadel, so how is Sam the grand Maester when he didn’t even become a maester.. D&D are insulting our Intelligence at this point
I don’t know if I agree with this theory, but I did have one huge reservation about Bran being named king: if he goes mad it would literally be impossible to usurp him. Even the likes of Tyrion, Varys, and Littlefinger would be unable to plot against someone who could easily witness their treachery from anywhere in the world. To add to that, the previous Three-Eyed Raven existed for hundreds of years (iirc), so, assuming it’d be the same for Bran, you’d have a king who could see anything, anywhere, at any time, AND can’t die naturally. That’s a recipe for a Dark Lord right there. Bran could become a lot like Sauron. Game of Thrones could be a Lord of the Rings prequel.
Great points, but I always thought the secret to the 3-eyed Raven's very long life was tree-related as in him literally and physically fused to a tree or the roots of a tree and then living as long as a redwood or ginkgo tree. Bran may not have long-life while bound to a wheelchair. His lifespan may be human-like and not tree-like.
Dark Lord exactly and Bran three eyed raven fits the bill perfectly. Remember he had no empathy for Jojen's sister once he was back at WF, used and abused them. He couldn't care any less about her brother dying for him. I knew he was evil right then.
How I still wish seeing how the Three Eyed Raven possess minds and enter beings was responsible for Daenerys character to crack and set the city ablaze. The Ice King would have been an enlightened person who foresaw the future and tried to stop this. He was after all a human before he was transformed…
Jon being deported conveniently after his role all would fit to the otherwise horrible scripting of the last season.
It would also open up a possibility for a future season of realisation and retaliation where Jon, king of true North returns just like the Ice King to claim his throne from the true monster.
How I still wish….
"It would also open up a possibility for a future season of realisation and retaliation where Jon, king of true North returns just like the Ice King to claim his throne from the true monster."
I came back to this video after seeing the report that Kit Harrington is attached to a potential GOT sequel. I don't want to get my hopes up, but I'd love for a sequel to play out this way. I liked the evil Bran theories back when they were circulating before the show even ended. If done right, I think they could transform that bad ending into a really interesting sequel.
they can enter your dreams too, in the books
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain. Starks who died were heroes and the Starks who lived through all the 8 seasons became the villains
True
arya?
John?
@@geordiejaygaming2878 yes John. With the exception of a few, most wanted John executed for killing who they thought was the rightful heir to the throne.
@@annjenkins2677 she deserved to be killed.
Remember the days where we all thought Jojen seeing the flame in his hand actually meant something?
So many good theories on so many topics. The burning hand actually has a lot occult symbolism, which obviously GoT is filled with.
I woulda been find if my favorite theories weren’t the right answer. I woulda been fine if my least favorite theories were what happened. I woulda been fine if the most mainstream theories were what happened.
But they just went with none of it and didn’t give a fuck about lore at all.
Besides the evil Bran theory, which there’s so little content on, to me there’s just just nothing interesting to analyze from season 8. Such a fucken bummer
I think D&D were the biggest villains in the series.
Damn right!
Yes!!
What's D&D?
@@ayodeleawodeji822 Dan and Dave
@@billy2182who’s Dave ?
If you watch the finale with the idea Bran is the evil mastermind it all clicks. Also the foreshadowed visions he had of kings landing and drogon only cement this theory into the factual domain. The "idea" is actually brilliant and I have no qualms with it at all, but as you pointed out the execution was abysmal.
Imagine 10 seasons and a deep dive into the true evil of the 3ER... It could have been so damn good.
EXACTLY THIS. Bran played them all!
All true-in the context of the bad writing of the show. The stark contradiction between “I can never be the lord of anything” and “Why do you think I came all this way” is evidence of this. Bran might still become king in the books, but the journey to it will be different.
I was thinking the same thing!
Bran REPEATEDLY stated he was not a Lord, Could Never be Lord of anything....
Sooo...how did he pull off being KING!?
I think he was playing humble like he didn't WANT it, but would accept..😒
Part of the manipulation, Bran pretending he didn't want the crown when really did but said that to someone knowing it would be used by that specific person as part of a list of criteria to make him king. Bran can deceive.
Is Bran incapable of lying?
If bran becomes king it’s a ripoff of DUNE.
I've been saying for years that Bran was the real baddy... Don't trust Bran...
It’s not Bran, it’s “Bran”
@@shannond7437 Hmmm 😳
Yes bran tricked them, all crows are liers. Omg, I'm so happy to see you back!!!!.
Very good observation...i remember that line from Old Nan ...in season 1 , bran is a F**king evil tree🤦🏾♂️😂
Another thing that makes no sense is that white walker looking right in Sam's eyes and letting him live. Unless the 3ER was warging into him at the time. Sam was allowed to live because Sam had the 3ER's work to do in future.
If 3ER could warg into white walkers, why didn't he just warg into one of them and use it to destroy the night king?
GRRM PLANNED IT ALL
Facts! And it will be much better in the books! It will all make sense and not be rushed. Mark my words
Season 9. Daenerys awakens in a Red temple in Asshai with no memory because she was dead for weeks. Follow her as she makes her was back to being a queen. Drogon lays eggs but dies from poisoning. Etc...
Season 9 released??
@@v.mohankumar8634 When drogon took her away, it left an open window. I think there'll be a season 9 and 10.
Don't listen to the crows. They ALWAYS lie. bran is 100% the villain. Hands down
I think the night king was a pawn in three eyed Raven's plot ...as it is the children of the forest themselves created white walkers ...three eyed raven is the old god of North whose power was reduced by the waves of conquerors ...the first men and largely by Andals... and by Targaryen conquerors who are godlike themselves... and the three eyed crow plotted in elimination of the dragonlords ... especially with the Stark aid... the Starks are portrayed as the heroes of the story and we all know that heroes in a story wins...and Bran Stark is the vessel of three eyed crow...so in the end three eyed crow becomes the eternal king of Westeros who only needs to change the vessel when the bodies get old...
I can’t tell if this is a hidden fact that the writers intended or just bad writing that adds up to look like Bran being evil.
As a viewer YOU can see everything, not Bran
I know rite
Okay, Im so happy that Fire And Blood is back but Im also happy to see you all guys here after so long! Hope you all are doing great :)
I like to think this headcanon is actually true because it can explain all the explaination-less things done with the show in the final few episodes. "Why did Dany burn down kings landing?" Bran orchestrated her decent into madness "why did bran say he couldn't be the lord of anything and is now the lord of the seven kingdoms?" Bran was lying through his ass. Not ideal obviously but better than all the unanswered questions and questionable answers
It should have been the reveal at the end tbh and could hae easily set up spin off/prequels people would have actually been interested in
Welcome back 😊 and I agree, Bran is the real villain and the NK was trying to save people from him.
I think Bran allowed this to happen as this was the best possibility. Any thing else would have been way more disastrous for the present as well as the future.
Good video, but I’m still so upset. Up to the last season it was the best series I’ve ever watched. An amazing show that was turned to shit by Dan and Dave.
Totally! Do you know that Netlix just gave D&D another very good books to adapt? I know I won’t be watching it..
Sophie Ema what that means we are going to have another season ?
Pondering the evil Bran theory saved the series a bit for me. I kept wondering wtf, then realized one of Bran’s last lines was that perhaps he can find Drogon. I thought about warging, that it was probably him awkwardly staring at Jon and Dany by the waterfall, and then I thought about skin changing, how contorted Dany’s face was right before burning the city, and I actually think Bran was possessing her for the burn of KL, her Hitler speech when Tyrion “quits,” and when Jon kills her in the throne room. As Dany dies, he moves to Drogon, burns the iron throne and steals Dany’s body (probably for some Illuminati sacrifice ritual for her royal blood).
So I had a few interesting things to ponder about Jon, Dany, and Bran, and why they did what they did those last few episodes, but every other character underneath was just shit on and tossed away for me.
Who knows, maybe the reason so many characters betrayed their own story line was because Bran began skin changing them too.
Like Jaime. Honestly Cersei and Jaime are the ones responsible for pushing him out the window, so it would make sense he wanted revenge on them. There’s so many instances of Jaime betraying his own previous character traits in the last season. Maybe I should research it, but honestly the season is too painful to watch.
@@thenightking6936 Seriously??? What book, tell us all so we too can boycott it.....
If they make this Canon the show can eventually make sense.
The Three Eyed Raven did all that. But, he is not Bran. He is Bloodraven-still. He now rules the empire with a thousand eyes and one.
Even his attire as king looks similar to the night king
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You bloody legend
The Melophobian He’s everywhere
As a fan of Dune I firmly became convinced of this from the minute Hold the Door happened. My theory is that D&D rushed the outline with none of the set up and, should the books actually be released, the actual "game" (fight for control of the Iron Throne) will be forgotten in favor of fighting the Night King, which will hijack the plot and it'll seem like the game which drove most of the plot wasn't really important and only got in the way of the true threat. A bit unsatisfying but it makes sense.
Then Martin would throw this at us in the final pages, showing that everything is Bran's doing and while everyone, including the audience, forgot about the game, they more or less played into Brandon Stark's hands.
The only problem with this entire theory is that I don’t think Dany would’ve stopped. She had global ambitions. There would’ve been countless more deaths had she ascended to the throne regardless of whether she lost her mind or not. I know, everybody loves Dany and simp hard for her, but these were her ambitions from the jump.
Really good video mate! Can’t wait for next
THANK YOU for articulating so convincingly what I've long suspected.
whom ever writes season 9 needs to hire you cause this makes hella sense and would be a sigh that there is more to come other than that ending.
Dude, for this clip....for me you have become a LEGEND!!! You just proved to me that in this world we can find people who think just like us on certain things....regardless the religion, nationality, gender or any other things!!! BRAVO!!! Bran really is the ultimate villain!!!
Bran may not be a good guy, but he is not The Bad Guy. If you think Danerys was good, then you dont know the storyline very well. She went mad because....well, its a family trait actually. Has happened to many of them.
Bran, by the qoutes, can see it all, but is not really suppose to change things. Danny was not a "good" person, so let's not pretend she was. She did what her ancestors always did, she went mad.
Agree
Dany was triggered to madness when Cersei executed Missandei.
Really amazing video! It opened my eyes to the truth. Bran really is the villain of Game of Thrones.
And also in the last scene during Bran's small council meeting before leaving when Tyrion said that he was sure the greetings will get better then Bran replied I am sure it will
Great video! This makes me wonder if the Children created the Night King as a way to attack the three eyed raven, a human (or perhaps a human ~type) villain whose human goals for power came at the expense of anything. What if the Night King isn’t the ultimate evil, but a tool gone awry to attack a type of being with too much power and not enough morals that they will sacrifice the natural world and countless lives to reinforce the power their lineage entitles them to (The first 3er Rivers being a Targaryen, Bran being a Stark). It seems that Bran could manipulate his family-why couldn’t he manipulate the Children as well? Anyway, I’m rambling. Great video!
Adding to this, I think it was the three eyed raven who did incite the first men to attack the children and the giants, since he had issues with them. Maybe night king knew this and turned against the raven instead.
This makes Bran even more creepy in Season 7 and 8.
When you accept bran stark Is Dead And The person Who Is The Role model for both melisandre and Euron Greyjoy is In control of his body, A Disappointing Ending Soon transforms into the creepiest way a show can end
GRRM should of gone to HBO and lobbied for new producers after season 7’s downhill debacle saving the series and getting his 10 or more seasons.
We should have taken the hint that the 3ER was evil from Osha. When a young Bran asked her what they say about the 3ER beyond the Wall, she replied, "Nothing good." 👈
Also remember he ordered OSHA and rickon to depart from him before going beyond the wall. They both died. Not sure how powerful his visions were then but worth noticing.
13:40 so D&D firstly wanted to wrap it up in even more rush..
Season 8 still annoys me. Also by Jon killing Danny and then sending Jon north ends the Targaryens forever which was disappointing. I’d rather Jon had of had a child to Danny and her die just to keep the targaryen blood line going
Ironically Daenerys and Jon having a child was foreshadowed, so anyone talkign up foreshadowing as an excuse for season 8 should think on that.
Yeah except Danny was told early in the show that she could never have a kid
Sequel plot can be Samwell tarly going to the Big library to read about previous 3 eyed ravens and realising bran's evil plan. Then hanging bran dead. Marrying Sansa. Sam and sansa's kids rule the 7 kingdoms
People only figuring it out now makes me sad. The thing he did to Hodor -> reminded of the Mad King anyone? You now, the thing that started it all?
More Bran is evil stuff: He also didnt mention that the 3eyed raven has a very, very long life span. They assume because the cannot have children, that the rain of his line will be short....ohh how mistaken they are.
For fans of the books: Who do you think Brandon Stark the Builder is and Brandon Stark the Conquerer ;)
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Its a whole welcome party here!!
What if the three eyes raven controls the “faceless men” organization and bran/ Three eyed raven trained aria so she would be prepared to kill the night king and any threats in “the starks”/ three eyed ravens way.
Perhaps the 3ER is their god of death.
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We all are! Its a whole reunion here
You are right, of course, but the books will surely end (or continue) in a very different direction. Having Bran become the most ironic king-villain was likely a way to "wrap it up" most unpredictably for David and Dan who desperately wanted out. It was appropriate for that reason only. Once George R. R. Martin finishes the books (or passes away), some company will completely remake the series close(r) to his marvelous books, and we will all be happy(er).
07:59 “kind of”
*PTSD kicks in*
You assume Bran, being able to see the future, can change it.
He can. He is like an evil version of Dr. Strange. If you remember Endgame then note that Dr. Strange could see multiple possible futures and then worked for the one where Thanos is defeated. Also Bran is not neutral in events. Without Bran pushing Jon's linage at key moments things would not have taken the path they did.
Bran Stark is the Game of Thrones himself
Yay you're back! 👍
I do not believe the Night King was wholly evil, I believe the Night King was the jailer of a corrupted three eyed raven.
In fact he went south only when brand did😂🤔
Not a bad point.
So true bran did everything he could to prevent people he was supposed to care about knowing things that would've saved them
Bran saved the day from the White Walkers and the Night King though by "planting" the dagger in the Godswood, seeing his past/future self there, giving the dagger to Arya so she can kill the Night King because he can see that the Night King will be killed there with the dagger. He may have exchanged Night King's attack on King's Landing and entire continent potential deaths/apocalypse against Daenerys' torching of King's Landing deaths. Plus he knows he would become King and unify/appease the country by talking to Tyrion way before about his story. Because Bran knows the course of everything, it is safe to assume that he will make things happen a specific way in the books too so that he becomes King, not because he has a choice in the saying, but because he sees it happen.
There is only one timeline, and Bran is not altering it, he is a pawn and a slave to the future that he can see. He has no free will. Every action that he is making has already had/will have its consequences written, was it not been already cleared with Hodor?
Omnipresent is something that only the all high god has so basically the 3 eyed Raven is a God
Honestly Bran did die In the cave because The three eyed raven swapped their bodies and took his, Ramsay literally told you all "If you think This has a happy ending you clearly Haven't been paying attention" The Night king could Possess Thousands of dead bodies what made anyone think the three eyed raven couldn't perform similar abilities if the King of ice was Afraid of him more than The dragons or jon snow??
Great video! Love it
The ink is dry. Yes, he saw all of this, but only did what he had to do to bring about what was supposed to happen. He did not choose what would happen. And telling Dany anything would not have stopped her madness. She only would have used or killed him, thus securing that the wheel would survive.
I think the three eyed raven is in opposition to the lord of light and that's the real game of thrones. If Danny gets brought back to contend bran it would make sense. Maybe it's really a competition between all these "gods"
I say Sansa is the ULTIMATE VILLIAN. She lusted for power. Long before she betrayed Jon for power she betrayed her sister and her family. It's evident as early as episode 2
Really late comment, but I have a weird theory for the show that Bran actually warged into Dany from the moment she burned King's Landing to the moment just before Jon stabbed her. Dany was too good and wouldn't burn the city down after apparent victory.
I believe, after her death, Dany gets ressurected in Volantis... Maybe she could return to Westeros and expose Bran in some strange magical way. idk, but basically, it's all Bran's fault. lol
We missed you. Love your content.
Thank you for coming back!
Random question, what song did you use in the background of this video?
There is way more to this. It's not only what he did or not say, but every single event in the story of the series.
He is the one that made it all. Bran is no less than a God in got, he talks to people in the past to make the present. He made Hodor, he made the mad king, and the mad queen too.
My point is this is not only season 8. This is every single thing that happens, happens with the premise that Bran wants it to happen. So yeah, maybe he warged and killed the Baratheon king so that his father gets executed and start the chain of carefully directed events that leads to him getting the throne.
Bran knew what he was doing,coz he could see the pass and present and the future
VERY GREAT VIDEO! KEEP IT UP
And also plz remember that the Knight King’s vision was to destroy the memory of the world meaning that the only way he could be able to do that was to kill/eliminate someone who was it so he could plant a new root and rule forever it’s a calculated mechanism that works even with people, you want to destroy people first take away their pride which is basically built on past and present by changing how they think or look at themselves!
May be be he was really Brendyn Rivers, who warged into Brandon’s body. Brendyn Rivers was the hand of the king. Maybe he thought it was time for him to be king.
at this point, these types of videos are just coping mechanisms. we all know the writers didnt have bran king for these reasons.
I think d&d did a job til the end but if they were told by the big man the show needed 11-12 seasons they should’ve honored the big man rr martin not rushing things which was what destroyed the show 🤷♂️but I definitely agree with everything you said bran stark did died in the cave with the others giving the 3 eye raven the opportunity to take over his body and become king after all sinxe the 3 eye raven is consider to be a targaryan
I think this assessment is spot on given what we already know. Bran was dropping hints that he isn't human. A person void of emotions sits the iron throne.
I don't think this was intended but is a good explanation. The real game of thrones was three-eyed raven vs the night king. I would go even further and this being the big conflict from the start of the show and the whole "lord of light" was also just a manipulation. And is it good vs evil or evil vs evil or just power play should be left to the audience to decide. Also funny thing is white walkers army didn't attack the wall and went south until three-eyed raven escaped to south in body of Bran lol Maybe there would be no war if he stayed there. It makes sense with assumptions that in ancient war there was a stalemate and some sort of deal brokered.
🤯 Good video
Team Stark! I am glad they won the Game of Thrones The Pack survives!
A Targaryan is literally controlling Bran. At the end of the day it's BloodRaven who truly won the Game Of Thrones!
It’s the world’s (children’s) collective memory. Preston Jacobs described this well many years ago per evidence in George’s previous work. He explains it much better where D&D sadly failed beyond imagination.
Bran in S6: jon is the true heir to the iron borne.
Bran in S8(finale): why do you think i came all this way ?
Could there be season 9 or snow show to address this
In Dune parlance, Bran is the Kwizatz Haderach.
Interesting...always liked Herbert's Dune too and.... i never made the direct connection, but yes, you're right... kinda a similar thing !)) The main difference beeing we always not know exactly 'what' is the whole 'tree thing', even less its 'real' goal or even purpose (in the Martin's unfinished 'universe'..) .. even in the books from what i read.... could very well be an evil or revengeful 'entity'... a thing the 'genius' Thyrion once again totally misunderstood in tv s08 (T character 'smartness' destroyed in the tv show..) , possibly making one, If not the one, of all Thyrion's worst 'character appreciation' judgement!... The 'kwisack haderach' beeing just a sum of past memories and trully prescient (Spice abilities), but not necessarily evil in itself...and leto beeing even more powerful.. and destiny even worst.. but yes, interesting observation.... )
bran didn't tell anyone who pushed him, but willing to tell jon secret of his mother.
those truth were the reason bran became the king
All of a sudden, he can see the future.
If anyone can "see" all that happened, is happening and will happen, then that means there's a certainty in what will happen. If there's certainty in the way future unfolds and the three-eyed raven "sees" this, then there's no way you can manipulate things into happening or not happening.. you can only do your part in facilitating what will happen... So, Bran is not a villain and he's as powerless as the rest of them, because everything is predetermined according to the concept of the raven. Otherwise, it would be contradictory. 🙏
I will never forgive the show for what they did to Daenerys...At the end, Bran and Sansa were the true villains for me...
YES! I agree with everything! Tyrion also kinda for betraying Dany and telling Jon to kill her
I agree
Agreed, I ending up hating the Starks in the end, even arya
Yes this makes the most since to me more then anything else I've heard laterally in the mess the way GoTs ended the night king only wanted bran would do anything to stop him bran never used his power to stop or change anything in the past to set things right could of made the mad king mad with vision on the dead coming to life again unless burned everyone always says the night king looks like bran not like that dude tied to the tree this could to more on season 9 10 11 12
The Best of the Aristocratic families seems to be the Starks and their bastards. Most of the villains were killed off with a few worthwhile people left such as Tyrion who is interested in being as fair as possible as long as he has what he needs.
Where have you been? I missed you sooo much
I agree but I wish it was shown in some way in the show so that we would know for definite
That's exactly what I thought as soon as the episode was over blood Raven is the king not Bran Stark
Everything was Bran’s plan. Before his departure Jon said, “I'm sorry, I wasn't there when you needed me”, and Bran replies “You were exactly where you were supposed to be”. With Bran everything is about timing. Being the third eyed Raven, he played his game of thrones with timing. He waited till Samwell Tarly got to know that Daenerys killed his father and brother, before asking him to reveal the truth to Jon. Sam pointed out that Jon gave up his throne for the people but Daenerys will not be willing to do the sameDaenerys being a Targaryen had both madness and greatness. The madness was unleashed after she came to know of Jon’s claim to the throne. When Jon was about to reveal the truth to his sisters, maybe Bran knew how it will tip off Danny. Maybe Danny going mad, people getting massacred and Cersei getting killed were all a part of Bran’s plan. With Jon and Danny gone there is no better candidate for King other than Bran whose eyes have no boundaries. Sansa is a true northerner, Tyrion is held captive, Robin isn't competent and therefore Bran is the ultimate Also when Tyrion requests Bran to become king he replied, “Why do you think I came all this way?”. This actually hints that becoming King was always in Bran’s agenda..Everything was Bran’s plan. Before his departure Jon said, “I'm sorry, I wasn't there when you needed me”, and Bran replies “You were exactly where you were supposed to be”. With Bran everything is about timing. Being the third eyed Raven, he played his game of thrones with timing. He waited till Samwell Tarly got to know that Daenerys killed his father and brother, before asking him to reveal the truth to Jon. Sam pointed out that Jon gave up his throne for the people but Daenerys will not be willing to do the sameDaenerys being a Targaryen had both madness and greatness. The madness was unleashed after she came to know of Jon’s claim to the throne. When Jon was about to reveal the truth to his sisters, maybe Bran knew how it will tip off Danny. Maybe Danny going mad, people getting massacred and Cersei getting killed were all a part of Bran’s plan. With Jon and Danny gone there is no better candidate for King other than Bran whose eyes have no boundaries. Sansa is a true northerner, Tyrion is held captive, Robin isn't competent and therefore Bran is the ultimate Also when Tyrion requests Bran to become king he replied, “Why do you think I came all this way?”. This actually hints that becoming King was always in Bran’s agenda.Moreover being three eyed raven he refused to become the Lord of Winterfell but suddenly he agrees to become the King of the Six Kingdoms. This is kind of ironic and makes me suspect that Bran might be the mastermind behind everything
Thank you F&B! We missed you buddy
It’d have not been seen by Bran if it could be changed.. all the sad things that he foresaw.. millions dying, Dany dying and all that .. he would’ve seen himself changing the future if it had been the other way .. maybe 🤔 the Raven isn’t supposed to or can’t really change the future without facing serious consequences.. Whatever Gods or God rules this Universe would certainly make sure that the Future isn’t messed with by anyone and Everyone including the 3 eyed raven . the Raven is just who sees, not acts or reacts.
This makes me wanna rewatch season 8
I know, all the clues for this I missed
Honestly D&D failed most with “Bran.” One quick scene in the finale showing Bloodraven & the children manipulated events through “Bran” would have vastly altered the majority of opinions.
The only reason I believe this is a coincidence and nothing more is because DyD are not good enough to writte this
Sad. I think you're right, though.
The Starks became the villains :/
@@dworroba7693 Not all the Starks!
Deborah Kogan who didn’t? Jon is not a Stark and Sansa also plotted to overthrow Daenerys :(
And other Starks are dead. Ned and Benjen were awesome and honorable
@@dworroba7693 What of Robb, Ned, Arya? (Not counting Rickon).
All That makes Bran the hero, not the villain.
Not and not, because he manipulated everything to be king, he didn't care about anything, only himself, he could've done the same more gently and use his power to help them, instead he chose to use them all only to become king. He let millions of people die, he knew it and he said nothing, he only said the things that could benefit him. He is the greater villain in GTO.
Bran ceased to ever be a hero by warging into Wyllis in The Door.