Woodturning | A few Tips To Line Up The Head And Tail Stock On Your Lathe
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2023
- In this video I give you a few tips on how to line up the head and tail stock on your lathe.
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Hi my name is Carl Jacobson,
I started woodworking with my grandfather as a young boy. I continued woodworking through high school, and started woodturning after seeing a turned project in a friends shop. Some of my fondest memories are working with my grandfather in his wood shop. Being able to share our passion for woodworking, ties it all together. We also do a lot of epoxy projects as well as woodturning. 
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Thanks, Carl. Great tips for all us turners.
Thank you Nicholas!
Thanks for the very helpful video Carl. I have a Powermatic 3520C. Funny you mentioned bottle stopper inserts. This is what caused my problem today. It took me a while to figure out why all of a sudden the two centers didn't align. I always used Ruth Niles brass inserts and they worked perfectly. The folks who bought her business are super nice, but they didn't have the same brass inserts that she sold. So I bought the brass inserts they had which are shorter and slightly wider. I drilled the hole with the same bit I always use and then tried to press the brass insert into the hole of the epoxy stopper. The insert wouldn't go in past a 1/8". I tried using a piece of wood held against the Jacob chuck and then turned the tailstock to act like a vice closing. Still no luck. Exasperated I backed off the tailstock, took a mallet and a block of wood, and gave the insert a couple really hard whacks. The epoxy stopper split around the insert. When I tried mounting a wood stopper in the vice I noticed that the tail stock and headstock were now out of alignment. Having never encountered this problem as a fairly new turner, I thought, I hope I didn't bend something in the tailstock or headstock. Finally, it dawned on me that my whacking on the headstock shifted it back about 1/2 inch and the business end of the headstock was now about 1/8 inch high and not sitting flush on the bed rails. All I had to do was move the headstock farther to the right and presto everything was back in perfect alignment. Your video helped me look in the right places to figure out how the two align and how to fix them. Fortunately, mine was an easy fix. Long story I know, but it might help someone else. Now I always make sure the headstock is not half on the rails and half off.
I'm glad it was an easy fix! Robin and I are the ones that bought Niles Bottle Stoppers :) If you ever have ANY questions our phone number is all over the website, just give us a call :) We switched the inserts because people were having a problem with the glue on the slotted ones. The drill bit for the new brass insert is 31/64th I hope that helps too!
Hi Carl, I'm such a dummy, I didn't realize that you and your wife were the couple who bought Ruth's business. I'll have to get the right size drill bit. When you hold the old brass insert next to the new one they look virtually the same diameter. Apparently, they are not and this explains the problem. Personally, I like the old brass inserts, but that is probably because I was trying to put 10lbs of potatoes in a 5lb bag and split my epoxy blank. So not your problem. I'll get the right bit from you next time I order something. Thanks for the response. @@CarlJacobson
Great timing for me. I got a new Powermatic 3520C put together yesterday. There is nothing in the manual about checking the alignment but I am going to do it first thing in the morning. I read the preceding comments and see a couple of other tips of the alignment too. Thanks to you and all the other commenters with additional information on alignment. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Thank you Glen! Congratulations!! It's definitely important!
Very informative as always. Thank you.
Thank you Keith!!
Excellent tips Carl! Hope that you guys have a terrific weekend! 👍👍
Thank you Steve!! Have a good one!
Carl, just wanted to thank you for posting this vedio. My Powermatic was out of center by more than a 32nd of an inch. I raised the leg as you suggested and brought it right back to center. I was wondering why i struggled with small turns and even larger ones. This was the problem the whole entire time. Thanks so much!
I'm glad the video helped!!
Thanks Carl. I check my lathe alignment periodically.
Thank you Jack!! It's a great idea!
Great tips Carl. The Nova alignment tool part # is 2MTNA. You covered all of the posibilities that I thought of. If you are a pen turner and you notice that your pens seem to be turning (lol) out oval rather than round your alignment could be off. Enjoy the show Carl, wish I hadn't had to cancel.
Thank you buddy!! We'll see you in Kentucky!!
Great tips carl. I have the double ended morse taper to re-align my head and tails stocks and use it before I start to turns pens.
Have a great time at the show.
Take care Carl.
Cheers, Huw
Thank you Huw!! That's awesome! Have a good weekend.
Thanks for the tip, Carl
I'm glad to help!
Good stuff buddy have a great weekend take care .
Thank you buddy!! Have a good one!
Great tips. I’m going to check mine out to make sure it’s centered.
Thank you Richard!! Glad it helped
Carl, thank you so much for the tips. I checked mine out and it seems to be aligned. But if I ever need to, I know have things I can do to resolve issues. Have a great weekend.
Thank you John! Yes making sure it's right is really important. Especially with all the inlay work you do.
And make sure your morse taper is clean. Mike Peace showed using a 20 gauge shotgun bronze bore brush with a handle you turn. Nova makes a MT2 to MT2 alignment tool.
Thank you! Yes keeping the MT clean is a must! The link to the Nova alignment tool is in the description.
Perfect timing Carl. My lathe was in storage for a year while we relocated and I did a minor adjustment when I finally got it set up. However, I seem to be out a little still and your suggestion about shimming a leg on the lathe may be what I need to do. I have my lathe up on a couple of 2x4s to get it the correct height but I also tried to add the bench castors so I could move it a little. I am now wondering if I have introduced some twist. Anyway, more than you needed to read, but wanted you to know how valuable a video like this is to at least me.
Have a good show, wish I could see you. Hopefully I can make it to SWAT.
Thank you so much Garry! I'm glad the video helped! Hopefully we'll see you at SWAT!!
If you have a sliding headstock, make sure the ways and slide surfaces are clean. Chips and dust can get under there and throw it out of alignment also.
Great tip! Thank you!
Thanks, buddy!
Thank you buddy!!
The problem with mine was that the center line up with the tailstock next to the live center but it was off by 1-2mm when the tailstock was ~8 inches away. I was able to address the side-to-side offset by loosening the drive assembly from the bed, shifting it slightly. And while it was loose, I shimmed it to address the vertical offset. I shimmed it with a small square of parchment paper folded up to be 3-4 layers thick.
Thank you Carl. I put my lathe legs on 3 wheel Dollie’s so I could easily move it. BUT, now I think I need to either make sure there is no flex in the dollies or else take them off all together. I know Laguna makes a very nice wheel system but not up to paying $850 for the convenience.
I would take them off, but only if there's an issue. Take care.
great tips Carl, always something to check on my Grizzly, I bet you don't have any problems on the ROBUST!
lol Thank you buddy! I haven't had any issues so far. See you in a few days!
Hi Carl, I have a Robust American Beauty like yours. When you move either the head or tail stock there is always a little movement present front to back. Frankly if there was zero movement you could not slide either one. In the Robust manual they mention to push the head and tail stock against the rear bed way for alignment purposes. In day to day use the tail stock seems to be against the rear bed way just from the sliding motion, but a nudge from front to back will seal the deal if there are concerns. I suspect this will be similar on other lathes but once you check it out you will have your answer to have alignment every time. Take Care, Myles
Thank you Myles!! Those are great tips for everyone. Take care.
Great tip. I did a similar video when I was doing bottle stopper and could not get it to drill to a tight diameter. If you are tapping the wood that is critical. Could not figure it out until I noticed the points were off on my live center and head stock. I had a Nova Galaxie at the time. I spoke with them an they recommended the double ended Morse tapper tool they sell. No where in there literature they provided with my lathe, does it say anything about it. Being funny I asked how often do I need to do it, Daily, hourly what. She said no only when you need it. Well if you release the head stock, you need to realign it, period. That means you have to take the chuck with your turning in it off the lathe, align and lock the head stock, then put the chuck back on. What a pain in the a## that was. I found the point to point method as easy as the alignment tool. I solved my problem by buying a Robust Lathe. Case close. Wish I was at the symposium. Have fun
This made me laugh!! I'm glad you figured it out! It would of been nice to see you at the symposium, maybe next time. Take care!
See you two in Albany!
See you soon!!
I think Robust recommends keeping the headstock back against the rear rail, whenever you move it.
Yes I think they recommend that.
Great vid Carl. When seeing if the center points of the spur center and cone center should you also check if they line up with the quill extended all the way out? I know that it should be the same but is it possible that it could be misaligned?
Thank you Scott!! I wish I could talk to you on the phone lol That might be an issue, but you don't want to run your quill out to far while you're turning. There will always be some flex in it the farther you go out. Even when I use a forstner bit, I only go in a little bit, pull it out and then push the quill closer. I hope that makes sense :)
good one Carl. Hey buddy in some of the videos you wear a very cool face shield where did you get it. Then in some videos you use a traditional parting tool. looks to be about 20 inch long the hand looks like a Thompson handle but cant see a label so again where did you get it. Thanks for all you do Carl you sir are a treasure trove of information.
Thank you so much!! I got the face shield at Woodcraft, and yes the parting tool is from Thompson.
I’m surprised they haven’t created a laser pointer that would be on the end of a mortise taper.
I would add make sure the tapers are clean. Dirt inside can effect alignment.
Another great tip! Thanks Terry!!
Great tips Carl. #belikecarl
Thank you buddy!!
I have a Nova DR14 and tailstock has tiny amount of pivoting play which affects proper alignment. Do you have any suggestions for this?
I would check the bolt on the bottom of the tail-stock, it might be a little loose. A small wedge under the head-stock might help as well.
Hey carl! You shouldn't need a tool. Put cone center in tail stock and use it to go into the headstock without a center in it. Cone should let you know .
Hey buddy!! Great tip, Thanks!!