C's GET DEGREES BUT THEY DON'T GO TO GRADUATE SCHOOL
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This video is basically what I wish someone would have told me from the very beginning..C's get degrees but A's and B's succeed!!
I have a lot of regret from undergrad so I hope you guys learn from my mistakes!
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I really wish my college had a program to help first generation college students because I had NO ONE to help me out. It was so stressful
Amila Badass i feel ya. Im a first generation too
Being second bend doesn’t help me either
I’m a senior in hs and applying to college was kinda annoying lol
What did you not understand?
Same I had no idea what I was doing. My university didn't even have program planning sheets so I swear I took every course under the sun in my first year just testing out what I liked and didn't like. Huge waste of time and money.
My sister graduated undergrad with a 2.4 and is now graduating grad school with a 4.0 It’s possible if you really want it. Don’t give up.
Thanks for encouraging us.
That is incredible 👏 Now the next step is the recommendations
Especially true for MBA programs, though GPA is important the minimum is just a bachelor's degree and strong work experience/promotions, recommendations, GMAT score, and interview can all help with a below 3.0 GPA to get in.
Wow
Could you ask her for some advice?
I love that you touched on the struggle of being a first gen student trying to pursue postgraduate studies
There are so many things I wish I knew before going to college. The after graduation struggle and depression is real
omg same!!! feel it sooo much lmao :/
@@AmandaMagana you should make a video about post grad depression. It's real and everyone I know is going through it.
I have a feeling it's because you believe your life will be significantly improved and then when it comes down to it.. your expectations are blown.
literally going to make a video on this topic
I'm not even there and i got struggle and depression already
I am a first gen and I majored in biomedical engineering undergrad and ended with a GPA of 2.8. I had quite a few Cs and even failed 2 classes from the stress of having a death in my family. However, my research experience was very extensive and I am very hard working and super determined. I still decided to apply to grad school and my advisor told me that with my GPA I wouldnt get a job or get into grad school. Turns out I got into the MS program for biomedical engineering at both stony brook and Syracuse, one with full tuition support. Life happens and many people understand that. Hard work and determination really pays off in the end. Even if you dont meet the requirements for something, still try it. You never know what can happen and I'm proof of that!
Wow your message is very inspiring. Did you get in on your first application?
I’m glad l didn’t listen to my counselor who said C’s were ok for nursing school. I repeated 2 classes where l had C’s. Ended up with 12 A’s and 2 B’s for my nursing pre-reqs.
When I took Chem at my junior college, it was filled with students who planned to attend some nursing school. I remember my professor told me that it is sad because only a few will get in because it is so competitive.
It’s not so much that it’s competitive, it’s all based on your grades and GPA. If someone has B’s and C’s and the batch they applied with for nursing school has mostly A’s and B’s, they take the better grades first. The rest go on a waiting list and will be admitted if someone drops off.
I repeated my 2 classes because l had Stats and Chem coming up, which l was weak in, so l didn’t want to take a chance of having 3 C’s. Getting A’s is definitely better, especially if you plan on going further in your education. I basically had no life the whole time, my nose was buried in books. Guess it’s a short term sacrifice for a long term gain.
@@deematulip3604 "It’s not so much that it’s competitive, it’s all based on your grades and GPA." That is the definition of competitive.
Agreed. I meant it’s not that it’s hard to get in the program..
Thats great! Never let grades put you down. At my school, the program only lets you repeat two classes and if you fail again then they mark you off for the program, sadly. It is extremely hard to get into the program.
Yes I got into grad school with a 2.9 but I was the only one in the school’s history and they said publically they will never do it again. Soooo
You sure got lucky, there.
Liuhuayue hella lucky. I had no back up plan
Positively Udo Omfg I need this kind of luck!!
Affirmative action at its best
551223 we don’t have affirmative action in my school. If they did they wouldn’t have let me in because i am female and the program is female dominated so...
Good point. For med school you can slide through with a few undergrad C’s, but it starts hurting you a lot very quickly.
bro u are literally on every viral medical video. How many hours a week do u dedicate to watching youtube?
godofcod2day I wanna know it too . Like he lives on RUclips
Omg
My dream is to drop a medical video and have adnan comment on it. That’s when u know I made it
@@godofcod2day lol
A master's degree doesn't garuntee you'll get a job fresh out of college either. Alot of master's degree requirement positions require you to have industry expirience. You're better off getting your master's degree after you get your first job. Some jobs will pay for you to get it.
100%
Preach. I graduated with a 2.5 and you don’t know how happy I am that I got accepted into a grad program at Shenandoah University. After many schools telling me they wouldn’t take me if I tried. This school is letting me in on provisional status so if I perform well my first semester then I’m officially in for good. I regret my first two years of undergrad for not using all my resources but oh well everything is a learning experience!
I swear my FBI agent listening too closely... was just talking about this on the phone with my mom
Queen Zey haha 😆
Me too!! They might as well help us 🙄
Me too girl 😂🤦🏽♀️
Me too!
I just called my mom right now and was talking about something like this
Illuminati is everywhere.
Great video. Getting As in undergrad can be hard. Students need to understand the strategies of getting good grades as well, because some courses, especially science courses can be challenging. I had a friend repeat microbiology 3 times...she was trying to get into nursing school...as far as I know to be admitted into nursing school you cannot fail more than 2 prerequisite courses, that automatically disqualifies you for admission into most nursing schools. Tips: hang out with students who are trying to go academically where you are, go to class, take notes, review said notes, read the syllabus carefully, if there is a grading rubric: follow it to the T, if you miss points on an exam you may be able to get points back if you can explain to the professor your reasoning behind your answer, makes study buddies in all your classes, and take great notes/even record them so you can listen/read on the bus/car.
I'm a first-gen STEM student who is about to apply to graduate school, and I appreciate this video! I'm trying to stay at a 3.5/4.0, right now it's at a 3.4.
good luck work hard
@@delong8639 thank you!
What major in stem?
At a 3.4 you will be able to get into a masters or PhD program most likely, but professional health programs...not as likely. Keep pushing! I wish I would of worked hard during undergrad to open more options, but regardless I’m in grad school now so oh well!
I wish universities had resources specifically for first generation students. I’m coming to the end of my 3rd year of university and I’m only halfway through the requirements for my degree, and I’ve taken spring and summer classes every year. I have no idea what I’m doing, and I’ve wasted so much time and money trying to figure it out.
My first quarter at UCLA was a mess! I’m also a first generation Chicana and I agree about the counseling aspect. No one really questions what you wanna do and I also had to really repair my GPA. My dad said “ es el precio que pagas por ser la primera” && it’s true. So thanks for making this video and informing others.
UCLA Class Of 2019 🙏🏼
I'm a first generation college student, and hispanic, but very Americanized, I honestly had to translate this on Google(I know I know, I bring shame to my heritage hehe), BUT THIS just hit me like a ton of bricks. Would it be okay with you if I borrow this wisdom into my next grad school application?
Well, I got my bachelors and ended up with a 2.9 GPA. I got into graduate school because I got a 3.333 in my last 60 hours lol. Going for my masters this fall :)
nice congrats! 😀👍
what program did u get into?!
i don't quite understand your situation. could you provide more detail how your gpa jumped that much with one exam? are you talking about sessional gpa or cumulative gpa
What school are you going to ?
@@erwinrommel9509 Degree plans are approximately 120 hours in the states, and a lot of schools only look at the last 60 hours of coursework when considering applicants. In doing so, students can better demonstrate interest and aptitude in the specific fields they are applying for, as many students will have bad grades that may not be a good predictor in future success. These bad grades could result from mistakes 1st and 2nd years are susceptible to, including changes in majors, poor adjusting to new lifestyles, money issues, etc. Many schools also prioritize 3rd and 4th year major-related coursework, as these will be closer to the material covered in graduate courses. So, while a student's cumulative GPA may be under 3.0, they can still be admitted if the program's admission committee (usually a group of tenure faculty) like the overall application and selected GPA.
@@romankov3682 in canada, your admission to grad school is just based off of your 3rd and 4th year marks in most cases. i have never heard of 120/60 hours unless you just mean 3rd and 4th year when you say "60 hours".
College Guidance counselors are a joke! I wish I never listened to my counselor because I was just getting by with no true "guidance". Years later, Im finishing pre-reqs for nursing school and retaking core classes to increase my GPA. Ultimate goal to be an NP. I will NEVER take "advice" from a guidance counselor again and would advise anyone about to go to college or are in their first year to go above and beyond in your classes especially if you want to get into a medical based program after you graduate. Find a good mentor instead of going to a guidance counselor.
Is this true?? Can you really retake core classes to increase your gpa? Even if your 3 years out of college? I would really like to fix my gpa.
@@hannahour I dont know how it is in other states but in Texas, you can retake core courses to increase your GPA. This is common for a lot of second career pre-nursing students who want to have a competitive GPA to get into a program. Its extra time that you dont want to waste but its worth it in the long run.
Hannah Maryse ya you can do the same in Pennsylvania that’s what I’m doing right now
@@misslolmomo I'm in PA also but currently I am working but thinking about going back to school for another bachelors or a masters. Haven't decided which way I'm gonna go yet.
My school wouldn’t let you retake a class to replace the grade with a better one. They would only let you retake the class if you got an F or D but C or B you had to keep it.
I saw this in my recommendations, and you looked so sad in the thumbnail.
lmao true story: I forgot to take a thumbnail picture for this one so I just used a still from the video! It was a hard one for me to film, only because it hits so close to home
@@AmandaMagana Oh I completely understand. I'm in my second semester of grad school. However, I was so close to not having a 3.0 before graduating. Looking back now, I wish I would have known what I really wanted to do instead of changing my major multiple times, failing out of school, and changing it again my last "2 years". I can say that it made me a lot more discipline being in grad school. Once I figured out what I wanted to do, my grades automatically improved! It took me from 2008-2016 to figure out what I wanted to do. I had a lot of growing and maturing to do. I tell people to go straight to community college and use that time to figure it out. Its a waste of time and money going to a 4 year if ya don't know.
@@AmandaMagana I also wanna point out that I'm in a different Masters program, so my 3.1 gpa in undergrad was fine. I remember hearing how difficult the nursing program at Towson University was, when I attended....oh boi!
I think she just has rbf
I’m a first year but my pre law advisor has already told me to take less credit hours so I can get higher grades even if it means having to take summer courses. While all my friends are ruining their gpas already I have to keep mine competitive :’)
Roxana that’s exactly what I did. All my friends loaded up their schedules while I took it easy at first. I’m graduating on time, too! Slow and steady wins the race
How many classes did you take?
Neo Mah 4 classes are enough and you are still a full time student
Essentially, that’s what I’m doing.
What a great idea.
I have a 3.0 GPA, both overall and for my major (physics), and I honestly don't care about it. It'd be nice to have gotten a higher GPA at the same level of effort, but at the end of the day this pitiful number on a slip of paper won't matter on my deathbed.
higher gpa for same level of effort?? just put more effort and you'll get a higher gpa
@Jswirv it is shocking how many people are in similar positions to me. Not everybody desires to spend inordinate amounts of time deep in study, all for the abstract goal of a stable 80k a year gig. Theres gotta be other ways to break into the money market.
@Jswirv at the end of the day, life is uncertain any way you slice it. Drop the 4.0 kid in the desert with a bottle of water and a knife and they would likely die in a week. All a degree seems to be worth is solely based on how you plan to live your life, I think. Ah well. I'll figure something out lol
@Jswirv I appreciate it
I absolutely agree with you. At the end of the day, people freak out about Acedamia and for what, just to obtain a document that says you are supposedly "englightment" and "qualified" to live in adulthood. It's madness and I cannot wait to leave Acedamia. I'm get my BA and it's over for me.
When I was in college I was in a very very disgusting environment ( very violent!) so it’s hurts my gpa badly, but at my last year I work like crazyyyyy, even in the violent environment and I got accepted to postgraduate school! In my master classes, my mom clean the environment ( no more violence! ) and I have a crazy gpa and Because of that I went to a highly competitive PhD program, so if your are in my situation please stabilize your environment, and if you are not made for graduate school please find your way out, there ALWAYS a way to be fulfilled in life! God bless
( eleven likes, I never have that much before! Thanks, I know my comment can help somebody somewhere!)
elyzazaza ironically.. this is my situation and im in undergrad, it really hits me emotionally bc im borderline dropping out but im still trying to push through.
wow 💖 inspirational!
C's get you kicked out of graduate schools, average students struggle in graduate school when it comes to reading, writing, and critical thinking. At some point, academics aren't for everyone... take good care!
Hiiii!😍😍😍
At what point do you critically think
Meh. I got a couple of C's during undergrad -- and still managed to get into, and graduate from vet school. What is your graduate degree in?
@@doctordarcy8385 I went to a major university for a Ph.D. in social work, but decided I didn't want it after all. I did well in school but realized that I didn't want a career in academics. Years later, I completed doctoral courses once again, but found myself not wanting to pursue this any further.
@@Daniel-bm5gf its a benchmark for academics, largely determined by your professors, but its clearly evident when writers lack depth in their content, understanding, and insights.
GRADES ARE IMPORTANT AND IT DOES MATTER SO ALL FRESHMEN OUT THERE WORK HARD FROM THE BEGINNING
I wish I saw this before I started college😭 I'm in the same boat..... no one told me how important it is to get a great gpa
Rip
same
I thought I was gonna get into grad school with a 2.0
I think it really depends of the graduate school/area of study. But still an amazing and informational video!
It's Danny what are you doing here Danny? Get to class
@@jahredbz caught me slipping!
Yes! In graduate school, anything below a 80 (in my program) is considered failing.
I went do community college and applied to law school.
Got accepted even though I messed up the first 2 years with F’s - W’s and C’s
It’s still possible to go to graduate school. You just have to prove your worth and knowledge.
Mind I add that I skipped the bachelors.
Wait what how you skipped bachelors? 🤔
Which graduate school did you go to?
How is that even possible ?? Please explain
Anythings possible at University of Phoenix.
If you are low income and first generation college student you could get into the EOP program which in my opinion helped me out alot.
Life is tough as a pre-med/pharm/OT/PT/dental student. You’ll see friends partying and living it up, because maybe in their situations C’s get the degrees, but for pre professional majors you gotta keep those GPAs high, especially the BCPM gpa for medical school. Also, a knowledgeable advisor is an invaluable resource, but an incompetent advisor is can absolutely wreck a professional future. Good luck to all who continue on this arduous journey. (Current med student)
Houston Orr thank you! I'm a nontrad premed & you are absolutely correct! I'm currently dealing with an advisor who is a wreck! I'm finding that she's giving information that's not correct entirely & now i don't know what to do. She's the only premed advisor for junior, senior, post-bacc
I want to enter speech pathology and I see you mentioned OT and PT in your comment. Do you know if speech pathology isn’t incredibly hard? I’m not the best at science (at least from my experience in high school, I’m more of a math and history person) but this major really interests me and I’m pretty sure its not as hard as other STEM degrees.
Reaction Videos a few of my friends are in speech path grad programs at the moment. I will say that some require high gpa’s and GRE scores, but in my opinion the prereq coursework isn’t quite as difficult as the pre-med prereqs. (No organic chemistry, physics, or biochem required).
Houston Orr ok thank you! This really helps
@@reactionvideos9509 I'm in slp school now, maybe I can answer some questions for you?
I got three C's freshman year, but ended up with a 3.5 and went on to Tufts for a Master's. Soooo it's OK to get them in the beginning!
Thank god this was my recommended video. I’m freshman in undergrad this is a great reminder to get my shit together ALL THE TIME.
Thank you for making this video. You are so right. I was in the same boat. I was also a first gen college student and assumed passing was good enough. In my field (fisheries science) you pretty much need to get into grad school to do anything in this field. I kept telling myself I’m not going to grad school so I just focused on passing. After graduating I realized I wanted to go further but I had less than a 3.0 so i was limited in options. I worked my ass off for two years on reasearch with diff prof and my connections allowed me to get into a really good graduate research postition. Anyways thank you for this video. I think first gen students have a much harder time than people realize
I love people like u who gives honest advice and no fluff. The truth is hard to hear but necessary. 💕👍
My first bachelor was 3.45 and my GPA for my major was 3.6. My second bachelor is nursing and I have 2 something. I realized that GPA means nothing in the working world. So I did the bare minimum. I make the same amount of money as my Valedictorian. However, she can pursue higher education. Note this, networking/experience will always trump education in the healthcare world. Wanna be a director/manager? Start making friends.
Yea.. I want to be a manager some day! :)
One thing I will never understand is the pursuit for near absolute perfection in college, especially considering how inefficient it is. I mean it takes like 2-3x the energy to get from 3.5 to near 4.0 conpared to a 3.0 to 3.5. I mean it’s dumb because we aren’t machines, we aren’t built to be perfect
In my first semester of college I was freaking out because I thought I was going to get a C in calculus and I was going to drop it. My guidance counselor was so confused as to why. I told him I was pre med and still he told me that getting a couple of C’s is okay. But my freshman year? Really?!
First year is the hardest.
Best thing to do is a post-bacc program that has a linkage program with a medical school! that way if you do really well in the program (which I know you will), you’re guaranteed either an interview or even direct admission!
What's up, Amanda. Thank you so much for posting this video. My parents didn't go to college either. I was raised by a single divorced mom, so my dad was not in the picture growing up. I got to Vanderbilt on my own by working extremely hard throughout high school. When I got to Vandy, I got distracted by a lot of things because when you're in college you have so much more free time. I obviously knew how to succeed in high school, but succeeding in college is a completely different story. College is a different monster. I didn't know anything about weed out classes upon arriving to Vandy. I took single variable Calculus my first semester and I failed it. I took it the second time because I thought. well it was probably the grad student teaching it. Well, the second semester, I failed Calculus again. I didn't know what it took to do well in a class like that. I was put on academic probation and I had to take two summer school classes to attain sophomore status. I didn't fully grasp until years later that that Calculus was for first year engineering majors. I didn't need it for getting let's say a second major in Econ. I could have taken an easier Calculus for that.
There were also things about college that I had no idea about such as networking and internships. Therefore, I was not prepared for the professional world even though I still had no idea what I wanted to do. I'm not in the same exact boat as you're in. I'm not in the healthcare industry. I'm in business school at a nearby state university getting a masters in supply chain. Luckily, I only needed a 2.5 GPA to get into the program. Basically I didn't know anything about the social dynamics and academic regulations of college. I was NOT a party guy. I never drank in college, but I still didn't use my time more wisely for more productive things like networking, and internships. Even after five years of being out of college, the things I didn't know still haunt me to this day. I'm still trying to forgive myself even though NOBODY TOLD ME THESE THINGS! I should just be thankful that I got to experience these things, got my degree with honesty and integrity, bruises and all, and I can pass these lessons on to my kids.
Looking back now, I wish I could have done better in college academically and socially. I knew nothing about Greek Life, dating, a lot of the soft skills needed to fit it socially. Failing calculus twice was a traumatizing experience. I struggled with mental health issues. While I did meet people and made friends, college friendships are so fleeting and impermanent. People move on and go home after graduation. Even though I did make great grades in other classes, I couldn't second major in Econ. when I wanted to during my junior year because I was too scared to take any more math classes. The advisors I had in college were worthless. When my history major advisor kept asking me what I wanted to do after I graduate, I didn't have an answer. It's like "Are you advising me or am I advising you?" You're pretty much on you're own because for a lot of my peers whose parents were in college they had connections and parents to know the inside secrets of college. A lot of these people also have a quid pro quo attitude when it comes to friendships. If they can tell that you're clueless in college, they won't help you because it's one less person they have to compete with for the most coveted jobs in the real world. I was so disillusioned about higher education by the time I graduated, I also had to C's get degrees attitude because I knew I wasn't going to law school or graduate school. Well, now I'm in Business school and luckily my GPA met the threshold. Now Vandy has a program to help first generation students with transition to college. I'm like "Thanks a lot Vandy! You didn't think to have that when I was there!"
Thank you for posting this, Amanda. More 1st gen kids need to hear about it.
Preach! So many students don’t know this, glad someone speak on this.Although, I had family members who have higher education I never knew this I found out on my own because my family wasn’t traditional students. But since I worry a lot, I did my own research on grad school applications. Yes, your right worry about you self don’t relied too much guidance counselor, do your own research. And 3.5 and above is completive. Now I’m in a completive health care program 😊
The primary concern about a poor showing in undergrad is most pertinent for people going straight to grad school after undergrad. If you have a low GPA, go after the best work experience you can in your intended field, meet good contacts that can also write your recommendations, join an professional industry organization (they usually have young member discounted rates) and prepare to work your ass off on your GRE/GMAT to overcome your GPA.
I know people with below average (lower than 3.0) grades who now have an MBA, MPP/MPA or J.D from Georgetown (and not SCS!), Columbia, Princeton WW, or GW who followed the same path, despite these schools advertising that they only take 3.0s or above. If you can get a rec from someone connected to the school, you’ll fair even better. Bottom line - you must provide evidence to prove you have “matured” since you completed your undergrad studies and can handle a rigorous program.
If you’re considering medicine and you have a sub-3 GPA or didn’t take any sciences, consider a post-baccalaureate program (they have great ones at Columbia and Penn). It will definitely bolster your application but you should consult the admissions counselor at your desired program to see how much of a boost you’ll get since they aren’t cheap.
Good luck, all!
M Great advice! 👍🏾
I'll tell you the problem with the system. There is NOT NEARLY enough emphasis on determining individuals learning styles. People like myself are visual/tactile. I need to see it and touch it to learn it. You put me in boring lectures and my eyes glaze over. Everything the professor says goes in one ear and out the other. I look at my college years and it is no wonder I was a C student. I had trouble grasping the information because most of it was in the form of boring lectures. I had to push myself to stay awake and take notes. I graduated but barely by the skin of my teeth with a crummy psychology degree which has no bearing on the career I work in today. I wish parents would stop pushing their children to go to college and really put more emphasis on teaching them to learn business. Learn how to start a business. Learn about being financially prudent. Hell a trade school is much better option than going through the bs you have to at 4 year school. The debt ISN'T worth it unless you have some unbridled love and passion for something like medicine and really want to be a doctor. Even then there are better options than going in to debt to make that medical degree happen.
tritosac hi I’m curious in what you work now? If you don’t mind sharing. Thanks
@@vanessaromansiuce3462 Sure. I work in the commercial lending industry as a broker.
Same
The only time i learn best by audio is either for memorizing something or trying to learn a language.
Maaaan i agree!! And some professors expect students to have access to many things like to travel far when were struggling to pay bills and food!
Im a visual learner myself a professor of mine just keeps going on and on and on and even his handwriting on the board is horrible it legit makes time go by slower.
I can really learn great things if teachers make it more relatable. Like once he asked how many of you have been to the amazon rain forest and nobody raised their hands like damn he might as well ask how many of us student have been to the moon?
Don't let grades deter you from following your dreams. I stopped killing myself in college long ago and I've never felt happier. The notion that A's and B's are necessary to succeed in life is a bunch of BS. Even if you have high hopes of becoming a doctor or lawyer, you still have a chance to shine on the MCAT/LSAT and in the interviews. Life is too short to worry about grades.
i thought to myself “well at least i passed the class” sighh my gpa is crying
This is giving me so much anxiety. My 1st 2 years of college I struggled with depression and social anxiety and because I kept skipping and not taking classes seriously, I have a 2.8 gpa and a ton of W's from withdrawing from classes. Plus I didn't chose a major until now in my 3rd year. I chose Psychology but I don't even know if i'll be able to get into a decent physical therapy program after or if I can get my masters. This whole situation sucks and I really regret the debt and the time that I already wasted smh.
You thought about social work? The degree is very very flexible and you can still counsel on a mental health level as well.
Keep going 👍 maybe add a minor or double major, it might help raise your gpa.
Dude I relate. I flunked my first semester because I was dumb and didn’t just drop the class when family stuff came up so now I’m playing mr fix it with my gpa and trying to get it back to where I know it should be.
@@nishashawn2021 no I never thought about that but I might look into it. My college doesn't offer social work though 🙁
@@berri5769 Thanks. I'm looking into maybe adding a minor.
I'm from Southern California. Currently have a friend still at UCLA wanting to pursue PA after graduating with a BIO degree. I graduated last year from a CSU & planning on applying to medical school but really wish I knew what you mentioned in this video. Better yet, I wish someone really emphasized that you can major in anything you want & still attend med school/PA/DO school etc. I knew I wanted to attend med school from the beginning but tbh wish I majored in music industry at usc & just minored in a science 🤷🏽♀️
OMG I AGREE WITH THIS SO MUCH!!!!! if only i knew then what i know now...i definitely would've majored or minored in film or english and maybe just did the prereqs :)
Amanda Magana I majored in Kinesiology! DO schools actually count kinesiology classes toward science gpa, if you plan on applyin that route along with MD! Originally entered as a bio major but switched the day of orientation hahaha. I came out of HS as a 2-sport athlete & enjoyed study of body movement, so it was just a science with a strong focus on biophysics/biomechanics. I saw the labs compard to bio majors & knew I wanted to switch because I knew I'd find it more interesting. I was also on the fence of being at DPT. Most of my research projects have been in the excercise physiology/ biomechanics of surfing for hurly/nike, so I can't complain too bad because I def wouldn't have gotten this opportunity at any other university! Music was somethin I gained experience with on my own in the industry on the side so it wasnt too bad, but my passion to study movement compared to music more def switched & I wouldve enjoyed my major way way more.
H Flores Dental Hygenist would be a great job to have while in the journey of pursuing medical school! Dental Hygenist is a two-year associates and medical schools do require a bachelors degree from a 4-year university. Major in anything you want at a 4-year that you really enjoy so you get amazing grades. It doesnt have to be a science like our majors. Any/all BPCM courses you can either take a community college or your 4-year university to fulfill medical school pre-reqs.
I too am a first generation college student scheduled to graduate in December and it has been a rollercoaster. Between changing my major and working full time and commuting throughout my entire college experience it has been a long journey. I recently inquired about grad school and (for my school) they said that if I fill all of the other check marks except for my gpa I would still be under consideration and would not be unconsidered just because of that one factor. They also only consider the gpa of the last 60 credit hours which also helps but I still feel unsure of if it’s a 3.0 or just below that. But you are right in that the undergrad advising counselors for our degree plans really do not even bring up the idea of further education or address the concerns of gpa early on. Universities really need to implement ways to assist and guide students who are first generation students so they don’t end up learning the hard way by spending more time and money than necessary. I could have gotten two bachelors degrees in the time I have spent pursuing this degree and so much time has gone and I wish I could have saved time and money if I had someone that showed care and concern. I have figured everything out on my own slowly but it really would have saved me time, money and stress. The fact that fin aid runs out after attempting so many hours also poses a setback in finishing because changing my major extended my time in school but it shouldn’t have taken this long had I had the right guidance early on. Thank you for making this video. It’s comforting knowing that we’re not alone in feeling this way and hopefully high schoolers watching this take note and use it to their advantage because it really is a struggle physically, mentally, psychologically and financially.
Omg this literally feels like I wrote it myself because of how much it echos my own thoughts and feelings...thank you for taking the time to share your story! Honestly I’m so proud of everyone in the comments because we all have gone through a lot and we are still pushing
More people should seek technical schooling instead of wasting time in meaningless academic college degrees. Too many people enter college and get lost in it.
This is why people burn out without finishing. Not to mention paying $1500 for an art class.
Honestly I'm at that point. I loved academics in hs and was a great student but I feel lost in college. I feel so unmotivated and like I'm just going through the motions.
Ara G Easier said than done. That's something that needs to be tackled in primary school and at home.
Yea but even then u have to be careful with those actionable schools. Like didn’t itttech and career point close and people are still trying to figure out how to pay a school that will never get a degree from?
Well some of those technical institutions aren’t accredited and they charge individuals a lot of money for them to take the short route and get into the workforce. Individuals who go to college are usually well rounded students bc they have to take those essential prerequisites
You are very poised and seem to be very driven at this point. As someone who just finished his PhD (the diploma landed on my doorstep at the end of march 2019), I can tell you that you are dispensing excellent advice to future graduate and professional program applicants. Good luck in all of your future endeavors. I am sure that "Dr." is in your future.
👏🏽👏🏽.....your soo right! The lack of guidance can really mess you up later on
Even though I’m in my 2nd yr of university, this was so enlightening. Thank you Amanda and good luck!!💕 And with that I’m gonna go study for my Pharmacology exam!!
I have 2 years left and now it’s all my science classes so this video came in perfect timing ❤️the one time RUclips recommended something helpful
I LOVE SEEING ALL OF THE COMMENTS ON THIS VIDEO- I WAS THINKING OF DOING A UCLA GRAD Q & A, leave me questions on this comment to answer for y'all :)
I hope I don't come off too harsh in this video!!! I only say this BECAUSE I CARE - also side note my job strongly suggested (lmao) i remove all my scribe vlogs and not discuss it anymore..wish I could say more but I don't want to risk losing my job!!! (just in case anyone was wondering where they went lol)
Amanda Magana I like your video. Who cares if you’re harsh. I work with one girl who doesn’t like it if someone is being mean, aka being blunt and honest. But niceness doesn’t get you anywhere and I work in a field where someone could die or injured or not advance if you were being nice over handling things the way they should. Too many people worry about being treated nicely instead of with honesty
Amanda Magana what field are you studying?
@@markniedenthal5907 I got my BS in Biology :)
Amanda Magana nice! I use to love biology lol
Thank you so much for this video it was really helpful. I am also the first in my family to go to college.
I could've used this video ten years ago lol
I wish I had seen this years ago. I graduated college in 2018 and it’s been a downward spiral ever since
So glad you made a video on this issue. Earning a C just doesn't cut it, especially if you are planning to major in the medical field. A B is the minimum. (PS I'm applying for nursing school and it's also very competitive)
Elle Lana You would think its obvious that u cant get Cs if you plan on going beyond a B.A.
I mean you just have to find the right nursing school that will accept a lower gpa...as long as you pass that licensure exam
Jay_McGill94 I’m a junior in high school and anything under a 95% doesn’t cut it for me. A+ only go big or go home. I made that rule for myself my parents didn’t just FYI.
I was an average C student back in my undergrad by right now I’m getting straight A+ses. I think that anyone who persevere and loves their field can get out of grad school easily.
This is a really great video. Another layer to this conversation is that all A's are not the same. Grade inflation at certain colleges may make you feel prepared for grad school, but you often find out (the hard way) that your school was not as rigorous as others.
I can relate to you sooo much! I’m on my 3rd year at UCLA and I struggled so much during my first 1 year there’s so many things i wish I knew (starting with what I wanted to major in) but thank you so much for this video!
When your teachers say that keeping your grades above a C won’t matter then ask them if they have gone to graduate school. Idc what people say I’m not trying to go to graduate school but I would like to graduate college with the highest honors.
I’m a mechanical engineering major. My CC GPA sucked! I had a 2.5 GPA. In order to get into most graduate programs for engineering, schools look at your last 60 units and require a minimum 3.0 GPA. I’m in my 2nd semester as a transfer student and I’ve been improving and trying to maintain a 3.0 GPA or higher. One of my friends got into my school’s graduate program despite having a GPA below a 3.0 because he is very involved with engineering clubs, outside activities and the school.
*looks at title" I knowwwwwwwwwww ugh don't remind me
Idk. I feel like GPA does depend on the type of programs/schools you are applying. I graduated with a 3.7 GPA and I have been rejected by 2 grad schools😔
Keep trying. Maybe is not the time until you get in. Be determined!
@@caribaez5711 Thank you so much for the kind words! Funny how I checked my email an hour ago and I saw I got an interview for grad school next Tuesday. Maybe this time :)
True Story: I'm in the Education field.I was a high school teacher and now I teach at a local college.
My undergrad GPA was a 2.3- I didn't care, I was just ready to get out of college. I finally graduated decided to relocate to a big city. Well, well, Well every job required a MASTERS DEGREE. It took me 5 years to get into GRAD SCHOOL. Thank god, Northcentral University accepted me. I graduated with a 3.5 because I learned my lesson. My profession ( TEACHING) is the only one that looks at your transcripts in detail. I'm disappointed and reminded everytime.😒
I'm 62, graduated from high school but never went to college. Would it be in my best interest to pursue a career?
I got into grad school with a 2.8 or 2.9. Many because I changed majors and had a few Ds from when I was a science major. But I'm not going to lie...grad school is a different beast in itself
I'm the opposite. I fucked up my last 2 years of high school and then got only A's and B's in college. College is not the time to fuck around, high school is. College is where future employers will choose future employees. Dress well because you never know who is at your college. Participate in class discussions because you never know who your professor might know.
Also, I know a guy with his Masters but he doesn't have a job in his field... 6 years after earning his masters.
Very factual video. I made C's in key courses for pre nursing but it's effected my GPA. Now I'm worried that my GPA is too low. Thankfully when I went to grad school for my other degree, my GPA was great.
What was your other degree?
I’m a senior in HS and just got into UCLA for undergrad. As an immigrant and first gen HS and future college student, there were so many things during high school that I didn’t know that were important for getting into undergrad so now I’m trying to figure my life out for grad school early so I don’t get screwed again. This was very helpful- you were honest and real about the consequences of C’s and I appreciated that.
Cs get degrees in nursing school but I sure am glad I got a 3.1 because the Nurse Practitioner program I want to get into requires minimum of 3.0 in undergrad. At the time, though, I never thought I’d want to be an NP, now 5 years later I DO.
First generation college student. Graduated high school with over a 4.0. Graduating college in May with a 4.0, and have been accepted to multiple graduate schools. Thankful that even though I am an immigrant with a low-income background and a first generation college student my family still knew education was important and success was not an option
Amen! I’m a enrollment specialist for a prestigious university and if you want to get in you need a 3.0 or higher in your undergrad. Also your undergrad needs to come from a regionally and nationally accredited institution.
Nadiyah Henderson Do programmetic accreditations matter though ? For example, for business degrees, does aacsb accrediation matter for admission ?
TTT T No it doesn’t matter for admission. However, as a student you want a school that has not lapsed in accreditation this shows that the school at some point didn’t meet standards. Also don’t pay over $15,000 for a MBA. Plenty of schools with high accreditations make highly affordable programs like LSUS and SOSU.
Thank you so much. I hope other students will see this and listen to your advise.
Plus it all depends on future goals. Why get in debt if you'll spend the rest of your life paying for it and not even profiting your earnings the way the so-called schools promised you would? I am seeing people pay over 50,000 at schools for "innovative" MBA programs that will not be around 5 years from now. At the end of the day I feel like your experience and achievements in the workplace will speak volume; unless you are planning to be a senior executive of companies that only judge people based on the name of their university, regional accreditation should be enough, as long as the school is respected by employers. @@nadiyahhenderson5287
Should be noted that, depending on your program (PhD program here), GPA means everything before but nothing after. In Grad school, B- is minimum you can get without being put on academic probation, but an A means nothing. GPA is also disabled for graduate students. Crazy shift
Yea, I think that depends on the field. I know that many employers do look at graduate GPA for STEM degrees.
Thank you for the video. I obtained my Bachelor's with a GPA of 3.96. I am now almost finished with my Master's Degree and am maintaining a 4.0 GPA. One of the things I am very frustrated with is the quality of work in some of my classmates. Some of the writing and critical thinking in the work is not even at a 9th grade level and yet some will, if they continue, obtain the same degree. How can people be accepted into a Master's program without possessing skills to conduct research, follow an assignment prompt, and put together an ordered thesis statement? I am learning every day, and in no way feel I have arrived; I am just very frustrated at the disparity.
Goes to show at the end of the day, that having a higher gpa whatsoever won’t determine your success! Bcoz most ppl with C end up being bosses n employ the ppl with As . Kudos for working hard tho
@Paradise Entertainment I do agree with you that GPA alone is no predictor of success. There are many successful people with far less education than I have! I also do not equate education with wisdom. However, the point I was bringing up here was on another issue. It was to draw attention to a broken system which starts in elementary school and continues through graduate school - one that passes and rewards students based on factors outside of merit.
Allyson Allo yes you’re right about that, I always thought it was unfair
I mean cmon, even in my program there r persons who pass with mostly Ds n can’t even think critically etc but yet, they will n graduating n so
Sucks right
Allyson Allo : I hear you. I have found that the colleges and universities on the east coast are very STEM-centric and do a poor job of preparing students to write well.
My graduate school peers are always amazed at my writing - to the point that they are afraid to reply to my discussion board posts on blackboard. I feel that my writing meets the requirements of a graduate student.
I am really disheartened by the poor writing and critical thinking skills I have encountered.
Plus, students seem to be a bit lazy unless they are working on STEM-related assignments or tasks.
Their essays are riddled with poor sentence structure, comma splices, subject-verb disagreement, misplaced modifiers, illogical organization, etc.
Some students go an entire semester or quarter and still remain confused over the differences between APA reference format and MLA style - the latter of which we used in undergrad.
It is really the result of deficient undergraduate education.
Same with bachelor's. How can someone who has a 9th grade level learning but can succeed? College is becoming a joke
The older and more experience you get the less GPA matters . Granted also depends on type of school you want to attend for masters degree. Much different situation when you are younger tyring to get into grad school imho. I barely got thru college with C average.
can you explain what you mean by "experience"?
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Dear, I had the same problem. Its wise to also look into graduate degrees offered largely completed online through continuing education arms of most universities globally.
You may find out that your joy is not in what your family expects of you.
God is good.
This may be the best and most important video I've ever seen. This is a really important issue. As a first generation college student, I got told C's get degrees, and that it's okay if I don't do very well by my parents. That unfortunately stuck with me. They don't have degrees, or college experience, or know what's even involved with higher education whatsoever. So in college I didn't try initially. My mind set was I'm already in college(I got accepted into a large very prestigious state school in the sciences), I don't have to try anymore. I already did the hard work in high school, I graduated summa cum laude from a STEM magnet high school. This was totally wrong! I'm a junior now, and really want to go to graduate school, so now it's a lot harder for me. Bottom line is if you're in school, ALL GRADES MATTER. Thank you for this talk, I'm supper glad you made this, and it should be pinned somewhere for all first gens out there.
So true y’all.. if u have a grad school that u really wanna goto the requirement is 3.0 ... end off college strong !!! Or u gonna have to come out of pocket take classes to get it GPA UP. #gradstudent
This video popped up in my recommendations and I’m so glad I came across it! I’m a first gen STEM student and everything you said is right on point. I am currently in my 2nd year of community college and I wish I could have known all this when I started. My first year was a disaster! I had no clue what I was doing. Counselors didn’t help at all, I had to go to 3 different counselors and they all would tell me different things so I was just super confused and stressed out. I ended up failing 3 classes my first year which put me on academic probation with a 1.0 gpa. Then I realized I couldn’t count on counselors and I needed to get my shit together since I do wish to go to med school, so I retook 2 of those classes and got A’s in them and now I just have to retake one more. I got my gpa up to a 3.5 and been getting all A’s & a couple B’s in every class. However, as a result of me having to retake those classes, I now have to stay 1 more year. But Id rather take it slow and steady than try to rush and fail classes. I used to be the person that would be okay with getting C’s but that’s definitely not the mindset you wanna have when you plan on going to med school.
I added a minor and then changed my major and brought my gpa from a 2.4 to 3.0 by only getting As and a few Bs. I dropped anything medical I wanted to do and found speech therapy. I’m doing my prerequisites for them post BA and so far I have all As and one B-. I’m hoping my prerequisites our weigh my 3.0 and I’m taking my GRE in a few months and hoping for the best 😩
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same same same. i have so much regret, and it feels impossible to right my wrongs. first generation as well....im struggling!
I didnt take my pre-reqs for nursing school seriously the first time, and I got C's and B's and had a 2.9 GPA. I've wasted time and money going back and retaking some classes to raise my GPA. I finally have it at a 3.5 but it took me a year and a half.
edit: I've been taking my pre-reqs for 3 years now...
I think even you graduated from Stanford, you'd be locked out of graduate school everywhere if your GPA were below 3.25. I think everyplace just looks at that number for graduate school and not the institution. But a 3.7 from Bonehead State might get you in everywhere.
You are so beautiful! Thankful for someone our age putting out an actual useful video 🙋🏽♀️
The advice I give to anyone going into college/uni: DO NOT LISTEN TO YOUR ADVISER. Especially if you want to pursue any medical program they usually don't know the specifics about the medical path and what is needed to successfully make it. Shadow doctors and ask them for advice. Go to a pre-health professional adviser if your school has one.
I've been in and out of college for going on 11 years, at the beginning it REALLY was not my thing. I think I got put on academic probation my second year and it took me like 5 tries to really turn it around and bring up my GPA enough to get off academic probation. I've been back for 3 semesters now and pulled off a 4.0 two semesters in a row, bringing my GPA from 1.7 to 2.2. It was not easy, and I also advise people all the time to not fuck around with their education, once you screw it up, it can be nearly impossible to fix and you don't get any fresh starts after screwing up.
GO OFF SIS!!!!!!!!
I agree with Everything you said in this Video. What they also don’t tell you for nursing for example, Is there are so many other ways to get there without going to a university fresh out of high school.
My college allowed their science students in their major with a 2.0 , where as other less serious but more competitive majors required things like 3.0-3.5. Well many science majors made only a 2.0-2.9 and found out they couldn't get into medical school. My friend tried for 5 yrs to fix it after graduating and never got in
Wish I was focused and worked harder earlier as an undergraduate. Hoping and praying for a second chance so that I can change career.
YES I WISH I HAD SOMEONE TO GUIDE ME NOW I'M MAKING UP AND GETTING ONLY A & B'S TO CATCH UP.
Shit! I have 1yr to get it together. Thank you.
Geovanny Alvarez that’s better than me. I realized this when I graduated. Ughh
@@florflor1811you got this!! Dont sweat it
I felt that way when I was always pressuring myself. I finished undergrad with a 3.1, and did my masters of science in Behavioral Health and finished with a 3.6. It does make sense that counselors and program directors want you to "get through your program" but not help prep you for other programs like going into grad school or go into other programs post masters degree. However, my Undergrad faculty pushed grad school very hard and were helpful. I got "bad" grades because of my learning disability and anxiety disorder. I was unable to receive adequate accommodations so I would mess up a lot of my work. Heck, even my professors were more accommodating than the disability services! I couldn't figure out my study style until my junior year because I would understand and memorize the material in class, but had significant difficulty with exams due to the format of them (multiple choice) all I had to do was study in the format the exam is presented in. Sadly i only figured it out by my junior year :/
I work in admissions for graduate programs at a large public university. For applicants with lower undergraduate GPAs, there are ways to provide evidence of admissibility for many programs. The likelihood of an admission offer depends on how competitive the program is and how good of a fit it is with your interests and goals. My professional advice would be to talk with the admissions staff from the program and find out what your options are! Some programs will let you take a few classes (at the graduate level - so they will count towards a graduate degree and aren't a waste of money) to start, and if you do well (with a B or better) they will admit you. Graduate students are expected to maintain a B average the whole time they are enrolled, so the standards are higher than they are for undergrads.
If grad school is something you really want, it still could be possible even if your undergrad GPA is a bit low! But you're totally right, for anyone who is just starting out in their undergrad degree, having a strong GPA to begin with will help you out so much in the long-run.
Both my parents have Ph.Ds, but both prefer to be superior to their kids. They didn't help me. As a result, I'm a mess academically. No one helped me, either, even though I had privilege. What I had was >access< to privilege, but I wasn't actually afforded privilege by my actually privileged parents. And you're spot on - if you want advanced degrees, you MUST have the GPA to get in. Repair work is a nightmare - doing it now. Your freshman undergraduate year is the only pure snow you've got in terms of a GPA. That's the most important year of your GPA construction. And you're right - the advisors and counselors around you don't necessarily have your best interests at heart. Mine certainly didn't.
More students need to watch this PSA
No, more students need to be like Omar!
Fantastic work on this video! This is something that everyone needs to know! I just finished graduate school, and this is something that I had to deal with in undergrad. I wasn’t very academically focused and had to make up a lot of classes for it. I barely made the cut off for grad school (3.0 gpa) and I was competing with a lot of other students that were much more prepared than I was. My grad school GPA was strong and I ended with a 3.9 GPA. I am very happy that I was able to do it but it requires a lot of discipline and studying. You can do anything you put your mind to! 🙌🏼
what did you study?
Needed this video in my second semester and my grades just drop down to all C’s and it’s to late to bring it back.2 weeks left lesson learned for me won’t bring that energy fro my next semesters
My guidance counselor told me I didnt even need to see her every semester and I was failing a lot of classes
This video will only sound negative to kids that were coddled their whole lives and were given participation trophies for doing the bare minimum. People need to hear the harsh truth and are too sensitive to be told it
I'm first generation college student with a science major. You're right! Thank you so much.
I'm a student with a learning disability, I was very self-conscious of it my entire life. I remember being put in classes with very slow kids and thinking I was "less than" other students. But when I started realizing I had resources to help me with what I have, I began to do just as good as everyone else sometimes even better.
Only 16% of people with learning disabilities and/or special ed schooling graduate college. So it's TWICE as hard for me to maintain a slightly above average GPA. So, in other words, I don't give a flying crap about getting perfect scores in all my course work. If I did, that I'd have to take like 2 classes a semester and finish a bachelors in like 15 years lol. I lived in an area with tons of post-graduates, most of them were just uppity suburban kids that didn't want to experience real adult life after finishing up undergrad lol.
I'm good.