The drawing performance is really unfortunate... I'm anxious to get my hands on a Windows tablet but with GOOD drawing performance. This format and OS is simply perfect for my use case, they just need to improve the drawing and I'm sold
get a samsung galaxy notebook 12 it's basically a surface pro copy but with a wacom digitizer and can pickup a Noris digital spen Teoh has a video on this too, after trying the surface pro4 and 5(with mpp2.0 pen) samsung just destroys em.
I bought my Surface Go 2 before I saw your review. You are 100% showing all my problems I'm having while drawing. Sad that it's not just me but also happy it's not just me!
Great review. I guess for general purpose I would go with a Samsung Tab S6 (lite or regular) and for art I would spend a little more and get the iPad Pro 11. Though the S6 could do art too, but lacks the Procreate experience.
Around three years ago I was considering buying a Surface for drawing. Then I tried the pen and it was not so good so I decided to wait until it got better. I’m still waiting... Well, to be honest I’m not waiting anymore, I just bought an alternative, but I’m still seeing these reviews and nothing changes 😕
@@ValdemarDeMatos I guess Ipad Pro is not a Surface alternative. Surface line tries to make their computers in tablet form factor, but Apple is trying to make Ipad's more like computers. But you are pretty right about drawing experience. There is nearly no pen that feels like Apple Pencil. Samsung's SPen's are pretty near, but not good as Apple Pencil.
Berk Beken When I said “I bought an alternative” I meant for drawing, because it was the primary reason I was considering the Surface tablet. I’m not saying the iPad Pro is a full alternative to a Surface tablet... I think the main reasons would be the software that you can use in both devices and the performance on more “heavy” processing tasks. I don’t think the iPad Pro can replace a desktop computer in that sense. But the fact is that in my case it did... I mainly draw, do some graphic design and write (semi professional work). And i’m doing all those things on the iPad Pro. But I understand that this would not correspond to most use cases.
The Go 2 is def a hard buy as it is a compromised device. I suppose the target audience will be loyal MS fans that are use to buying overpriced stuff that is average at best, but TBH for most there are far better alternatives in the consumer market. Maybe the Go 3 will raise the game and correct the failings. Obviously as a tablet the drawing experience needs to be addressed. Also, battery life needs to be closer to double what the Go 2 gets especially as the competition is significantly better. A faster processor is essential, at least have the option for those that want a better experience and are willing to pay the extra and are happy to do so within that form-factor. If not that, then maybe an AMD version or if they can improve WOA, a Qualcomm SoC? MS give us these form-factors that are limited and a work-in-progress but they fail to address the failings, sorta giving up and just churning out derivatives. The Surface Pro line was supposed to push the market towards these 2-in-1's but other OEMs have mostly abandoned them as most users are underwhelmed, disappointed with their downsides, and MS are unwilling or unable to rectify. Hopefully MS are on the job!
Hi! I’ve bought a surface go 2 because I like the idea of having desktop and a tablet (I’m in university, so ideal for typing my documents and writing notes). I know that the drawing experience isn’t the best, but is it because of the pen or how the tablet’s processed?
as a classic artist, I bought a dell 2 in 1 to try out digital art, which uses MPP technology for pen input. From the first stroke, I was like what's going on with the taper-out, thought either my unit or the pen is faulty, and it appears it's because of MPP technology, SMH.
If i was to buy this unit without a keyboard and pen, would it work great as standard tablet but with win 10. I have a 8" win 10 2004 version chuwi tablet now, works great, just battery life is soso, still get up to 8hrs on max saver settings, full performance 2 hrs. I have a laptop, don't really need a physical keyboard on a tablet. The way i use it is mostly for learning sessions and taking notes on my lap via swiping on virtual keyboard. If you put this on tablet mode, will it load the tablet mode keyboard automatically when required? Thanks, great video.
what's a good app for watercolor looks? Chalk look? (I do have ful verion of Artrage, which is good for thick pint look- wtercolor meh- it's ok) There used to be a program called Rebelle which was awesome, but very buggy-
Hi Teoh, I have the Intel Pentium gold 8gb 128ssd and would like to know if Corel Painter 2020 would work on the Go 2? Thank you. I love your videos, very informative.
Would you recommend this tablet over the galaxy s7/7+ for handwritten notes and long term use (in contrast to Samsung that might stop updating android on their tablet in 2/3 years)
Hi Teoh. Informative video. I'm considering buying a pad for drawing. Since you don't recommend this unit what unit would you recommend? Plan to watch your Best iPad for drawing 2019 (Maybe 2020) for ideas. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Thanks. What software do you recommend. I draw as a hobby and all this is new to me. I'm one of your patreon supporters and glad my support helps you produce these helpful videos.
If by productivity stuff means mostly text related stuff, then this has no problem handling. Just make sure to get the model with SSD storage rather than eMMC, and get 8GB RAM. It is faster. The first Microsoft Go wasn't that fast.
As a Clip Studio user myself, this is my dilemma: 1. Get a Surface Go 2 and suffer the disappointing pen drawing experience. 2. Get an iPad which has better drawing experience but suffer Clip's subscription fees.
windows os will cache to unused ram, this doesnt necessarily mean the ram usage is accurate to everything running, the system stores away what it thinks you might use there so it is launched faster. a better reason to not get that 4gb model would be the rather bad in comparison emmc storage.
I don't think the WIndowsOS experience will be good on the Surface Go 3. If it's just for drawing, you should go with the iPad or Samsung Tab S7 or S8 with your budget.
For the record: Geekbench 5 SG2 m3 chip = 873 2020 base model MBA i3 = 983 Cinebench R20 SG2 m3 chip = 460 2020 bsse model MBA i3 =620 Cost SG2 m3 chip = $629US (add $40-$50 keyboard/pen $40-$50 pen at Amazon) 2020 base model MBA i3 = $949US (no pen, touch screen, microSD)
Not nice all depend what you will do and the program you will use I have the exact one on this video and I own plenty tablet is you want a surface get the latest pro model is you doing just normal sketch samsung is the way every window program is to powerful for week pc you need at least i5 with at least 8 ram and don't forget the screen resolution is the problem I have when using CSP all similar colors look similar I try to cast to tv to see the difference on the color and I was disappointed everything work on my TV even the surface pro2 but this never complete connection the other problem it bugs all the time when you trying to rotate your work on CSP IS funny because is smoothly on sketcheble lastly the battery die fast the max is 4 hour 8 hour only is you not a artist I will recommend only for a portable office pc is really light and responsive for those purposes
You always have the best reviews, I think they should sponsor you!
Phenomenal review. I am not an artist but if I get a Surface, I would like to try drawing more. Your perspective is great!
This was a very good review. Kept my attention the entire time. You would make a great teacher/instructor!
The drawing performance is really unfortunate... I'm anxious to get my hands on a Windows tablet but with GOOD drawing performance. This format and OS is simply perfect for my use case, they just need to improve the drawing and I'm sold
@recycleBinLaden I was actually excited about the no-wobbling! And then... Tapering...
wacom's tablet is there, but of course it would cost $$$
@@babixillo indeed, but it's not as portable as this. This is like a sketchbook with a little room for light productivity/editing
The drawing experience on my Surface Pro 6 is pretty great, no wobble or anything. So you could check that out.
get a samsung galaxy notebook 12 it's basically a surface pro copy but with a wacom digitizer and can pickup a Noris digital spen Teoh has a video on this too, after trying the surface pro4 and 5(with mpp2.0 pen) samsung just destroys em.
Have been using one for two years and learned a lot :-) Thank you
I bought my Surface Go 2 before I saw your review. You are 100% showing all my problems I'm having while drawing. Sad that it's not just me but also happy it's not just me!
Great review. I guess for general purpose I would go with a Samsung Tab S6 (lite or regular) and for art I would spend a little more and get the iPad Pro 11. Though the S6 could do art too, but lacks the Procreate experience.
You're my favorite tech reviewer.
Love from West Bengal, India. ❤️
Thanks for Review. I always like to know about new tools and technology.
The Surface Go 2 is quite fun to use with Abobe Illustrator:)
Great review as usual. Thank you.
Thank you I did not know that The charging part Really appreciated
Great review! my friends recommended this tab but after watching your review, I now doubt my friend's recommendations hahahaha thanks for this review!
perfect "laptop" to throw in my shoulder bag. Small and compact. Use it for light produtive work, web browsing and streaming.
Around three years ago I was considering buying a Surface for drawing. Then I tried the pen and it was not so good so I decided to wait until it got better. I’m still waiting...
Well, to be honest I’m not waiting anymore, I just bought an alternative, but I’m still seeing these reviews and nothing changes 😕
What did you buy?
Filo Faxingagain
I bought the iPad Pro (2nd generation) and the Apple pencil. I’m very happy with its performance while drawing.
@@ValdemarDeMatos I guess Ipad Pro is not a Surface alternative. Surface line tries to make their computers in tablet form factor, but Apple is trying to make Ipad's more like computers. But you are pretty right about drawing experience. There is nearly no pen that feels like Apple Pencil. Samsung's SPen's are pretty near, but not good as Apple Pencil.
Berk Beken
When I said “I bought an alternative” I meant for drawing, because it was the primary reason I was considering the Surface tablet.
I’m not saying the iPad Pro is a full alternative to a Surface tablet...
I think the main reasons would be the software that you can use in both devices and the performance on more “heavy” processing tasks.
I don’t think the iPad Pro can replace a desktop computer in that sense.
But the fact is that in my case it did... I mainly draw, do some graphic design and write (semi professional work). And i’m doing all those things on the iPad Pro.
But I understand that this would not correspond to most use cases.
@@ValdemarDeMatos I saw some one say on reddit the new surface slim pen is close to the apple pencil
The Go 2 is def a hard buy as it is a compromised device. I suppose the target audience will be loyal MS fans that are use to buying overpriced stuff that is average at best, but TBH for most there are far better alternatives in the consumer market.
Maybe the Go 3 will raise the game and correct the failings. Obviously as a tablet the drawing experience needs to be addressed. Also, battery life needs to be closer to double what the Go 2 gets especially as the competition is significantly better. A faster processor is essential, at least have the option for those that want a better experience and are willing to pay the extra and are happy to do so within that form-factor. If not that, then maybe an AMD version or if they can improve WOA, a Qualcomm SoC?
MS give us these form-factors that are limited and a work-in-progress but they fail to address the failings, sorta giving up and just churning out derivatives. The Surface Pro line was supposed to push the market towards these 2-in-1's but other OEMs have mostly abandoned them as most users are underwhelmed, disappointed with their downsides, and MS are unwilling or unable to rectify. Hopefully MS are on the job!
Informative review. How do you usually undo an action? Press Cntrl Z or do you program the side button of the surface pen to do that?
Some apps allow you to undo from pen button, some apps you can use two fingers to tap on screen to undo
One of the best reviews ❤️
Hi! I’ve bought a surface go 2 because I like the idea of having desktop and a tablet (I’m in university, so ideal for typing my documents and writing notes). I know that the drawing experience isn’t the best, but is it because of the pen or how the tablet’s processed?
It’s because of the pen
@@teohyc ah okay, thank you! Would make sure to get an alternative pen. Can’t justify spending £100 on a pen :P
as a classic artist, I bought a dell 2 in 1 to try out digital art, which uses MPP technology for pen input. From the first stroke, I was like what's going on with the taper-out, thought either my unit or the pen is faulty, and it appears it's because of MPP technology, SMH.
Those 2 in 1 are usually not good for drawing. Even Microsoft Surface products (still) have issues with diagonal line jitter
The product seems really nice!
If i was to buy this unit without a keyboard and pen, would it work great as standard tablet but with win 10. I have a 8" win 10 2004 version chuwi tablet now, works great, just battery life is soso, still get up to 8hrs on max saver settings, full performance 2 hrs. I have a laptop, don't really need a physical keyboard on a tablet. The way i use it is mostly for learning sessions and taking notes on my lap via swiping on virtual keyboard.
If you put this on tablet mode, will it load the tablet mode keyboard automatically when required?
Thanks, great video.
keyboard will show when you enter into text box
Great review
Excellent video like always Teoh, one ask: for a beginner in digital art what app do you recommend? Thanks for your answer.
You can try free ones like Krita, Medibang Paint Pro, Autodesk. Paid ones like Clip Studio Paint, Concepts, Sketchable are good
@@teohyc thanks a lot Teoh...you're the best. :)
I like how the pen use AAAA, hopefully this pen works with the Surface Go 3.
Waiting for your review on Tab S7+
Are you goin to review the go 3?
what's a good app for watercolor looks? Chalk look? (I do have ful verion of Artrage, which is good for thick pint look- wtercolor meh- it's ok) There used to be a program called Rebelle which was awesome, but very buggy-
HP Pavilion x360 Touchscreen 2-in-1 FHD 14-inch Laptops this model sir So smudge painting good colour???
Hi Teoh, I have the Intel Pentium gold 8gb 128ssd and would like to know if Corel Painter 2020 would work on the Go 2? Thank you. I love your videos, very informative.
It should work. But as to how well or smooth I'm not too sure.
Would you recommend this tablet over the galaxy s7/7+ for handwritten notes and long term use (in contrast to Samsung that might stop updating android on their tablet in 2/3 years)
Can we use a third party surface pen? If it can any model you recommend?
What's the name of the last app that you used ? I don't speak English well 🧐
Concepts
Thanks for this good video and the french traduction
Hi Teoh.
Informative video.
I'm considering buying a pad for drawing. Since you don't recommend this unit what unit would you recommend?
Plan to watch your Best iPad for drawing 2019 (Maybe 2020) for ideas.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Any iPad would be good. If you don’t like Apple, then maybe Samsung Tab S6 or Tab S6 Lite
Thanks. What software do you recommend. I draw as a hobby and all this is new to me.
I'm one of your patreon supporters and glad my support helps you produce these helpful videos.
@@Saginaw72 I recommend Procreate if you get iPad. For Android, you can try Infinite Painter, Autodesk Sketchbook, Concepts (my favourite currently).
Thanks Teoh.
Do you notice a big performance difference form the V1 with Pentium Gold chip? Mostly just doing productivity stuff.
If by productivity stuff means mostly text related stuff, then this has no problem handling. Just make sure to get the model with SSD storage rather than eMMC, and get 8GB RAM. It is faster. The first Microsoft Go wasn't that fast.
Hi , can you please do a review on the stylus with hp laptops
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As a Clip Studio user myself, this is my dilemma:
1. Get a Surface Go 2 and suffer the disappointing pen drawing experience.
2. Get an iPad which has better drawing experience but suffer Clip's subscription fees.
Clip Studio Paint still performs better compared to all other drawing apps I’ve tested on the Go 2
windows os will cache to unused ram, this doesnt necessarily mean the ram usage is accurate to everything running, the system stores away what it thinks you might use there so it is launched faster. a better reason to not get that 4gb model would be the rather bad in comparison emmc storage.
can you review for microsoft surface go 3 using i3 8gb ram??
I don't think the WIndowsOS experience will be good on the Surface Go 3. If it's just for drawing, you should go with the iPad or Samsung Tab S7 or S8 with your budget.
Is this better or samsung s6 lite ?can you help me?
Samsung is better. Android UI is better on a small tablet and drawing performance is better.
how about sai
Sir usb wacom support??
Yes
@@teohyc smudge painting art good display??
@@teohyc sir smudge painting art Photoshop & wacom tutoiual video please upload sir
Sir, Can we charge it via Type c port?
Yes you can but with a charger that has strong voltage
Please review krita on tab s6 lite sir
There's free pen included for purchase of surface go 2 now.
Does it use PWM?
No
For the record:
Geekbench 5
SG2 m3 chip = 873
2020 base model MBA i3 = 983
Cinebench R20
SG2 m3 chip = 460
2020 bsse model MBA i3 =620
Cost
SG2 m3 chip = $629US (add $40-$50 keyboard/pen $40-$50 pen at Amazon)
2020 base model MBA i3 = $949US (no pen, touch screen, microSD)
I really don't have paints of color pencils to color my art so i decided to buy drawing tablet. There are expensive gadgets
Windows and Adobe bloatware = go and make a cup of tea and come back later.
Not nice all depend what you will do and the program you will use I have the exact one on this video and I own plenty tablet is you want a surface get the latest pro model is you doing just normal sketch samsung is the way every window program is to powerful for week pc you need at least i5 with at least 8 ram and don't forget the screen resolution is the problem I have when using CSP all similar colors look similar I try to cast to tv to see the difference on the color and I was disappointed everything work on my TV even the surface pro2 but this never complete connection the other problem it bugs all the time when you trying to rotate your work on CSP IS funny because is smoothly on sketcheble lastly the battery die fast the max is 4 hour 8 hour only is you not a artist I will recommend only for a portable office pc is really light and responsive for those purposes
jesus fuck my 6th gen ipad loads way faster and its already noticeably slowing down cuz its like a yr or 2 old
yo sir can you installed capture one pro in this tablet? capture one pro is camera tethering program