The fact that Cuora didn't take cannon aggro at 5:27 was complete luck. I was panicking and not paying attention to the timing and only realized afterwards how risky it had been... It's crazy how close this was. Props to Everec and all the other competitors, and of course to everyone who helped make this happen.
the 2nd round is honestly the best round for me, the fact that everec's 1st ban is elysium but then proceed to bring elysium instantly is just peak 0 sanity doctor moment right there lmao
This is actually a viable option for Hypergryph for tournament setting; not only is it a tournament, it's also a showcase of the smartest strategies and an Operator showcase, meta or not, all in one bundle. Interesting concept; I was expecting to be bored but damn, there was nothing boring about it, had me at the edge of my seat
Ngl watching a tournament as close as this just blew my mind This really makes me want to get into niches like tortoise and discover an entire new way of playing arknights ggs to everyone that competed yall are awesome! Please keep hosting events like this vifer this is so good
That Silverash ban was so key twice! That is something that I said for a long time, all the meta players see S3, but what makes Silverash so key is his invis detection and reduced redeploy and Everec not having another plan to deal with the invis drones really hurt the time. Quite interesting idea that whole tournament, but using CC18 as the measuring stick is kind of weird, it would be nice to have another (maybe more permanent/rotating) option for something like this.
They did have an S2M3 Elysium, but the issue was they kept choosing redeploy times. But considering 5 stars are the largest source of invis detection (elysium, tsukinogi, scene), I think this CC was already going to be very hard for a 6 star niche since Horn doesn't have the tile set to be effective against the drones unless Everec decides to not phase skip and stall manfred when he is at far left of his path, thus horn can fire flares and detect the invisible drones should that ever be an option outside of elysium.
@@bullshot101 Well yeah, but for all other options (in the air) you need two units to deal with it as they reveal but don't deal damage, plus you are bound to the skill uptime, Silverash is just doing everything by just existing.
@@zomfgroflmao1337 as the crux of this argument is the second drone, horn illumination would be up for it, and scene is a passive revel, and placing her top left would be in range for the 8 tiles to attack. While this affects how much they can deploy, it's then ultimately the issue of flexibility again with what strategies can be used to avoid the scenario of no SA. While I can't do it like they do with archetto and the like, someone like ling could be useful for not only increasing the bomb call occurrence if the deploy timer modifier isn't chosen, it's a pool of 6 "low cost to stat" units for stall and bait.
I was on the edge of my seat when that last match happen, what an amazing comeback from Tortoise-chan. Vifer you should DEFINITELY do this again for next CC! And yes, Xai should co-host again.
So many new creative skills/talents usage of operators are being showcased here. Damn. Who would've thought tower defense can be such a competitive esports.
GGs to Tortoise and everyone else that competed, and thank you Vifer, Xairathan, and all involved for making this happen, it was a ton of fun! The level 3 Manfred risk in the first round was a complete misclick and autopiloting Elysium in round 2 was not my brightest moment. Hindsight is 20/20 though, and Tortoise proved very difficult to ban operatirs against due to the versatility of 5*s and their phenomenal mastery of the cannon.
Congratulations on second place! I was rooting for you the entire time. You had a big lead in the last two rounds only to have those damn drones rob you of the win by a few seconds. Nevertheless, those were some great clears under pressure!
Felt so good to see a creative player win. Just goes to prove how much unexplored potential there is in this game, especially with the 5* that some people say that are worthless. Totally deserved Tortoise, and you have my respect.
Damn so many 5 stars, even provence s1, i should probably start looking into some of these skills, they looked fun to use. Thank you Vifer for making this CC feel even more exciting, tbh thought the idea would lead to boring full meta clears, but damn thank god i was wrong. Edit: 26:05 that realization of the messed up
This was a very memorable tournament, though I'm a little disappointed you didn't upload the other matches, one person (me) banned Castle-3 at one point and that was legendary!
I was on the edge of my seat the entire match. Every round was so crazy in their own way and the finale could NOT have been closer. This was such a blast and I'm really glad I was able to help out with this. One of, if not the greatest time I had! Congrats to all everyone who made the top 8 and thank you for everyone who competed. You all made this such a great and entertaining event to watch and moderate. Hopefully, events like this are something that you all are excited to see happen again in the future. - Darrion (One of 8 Moderators working behind this amazing event)
For some reason i love the idea of competitive CCs sooo much!!! Usualy i'm not very involved into cyber-sport side of my favourite games, but this tournament might be the one and only exception. Really waiting for return of it with next CC season. Congatulations, Tortoise-chan, "officialy" the best Arknights player for now!!!
First of all, this match was absolutely hype, tortoise making a miraculous comeback was amazing. Honestly I feel like the other matches should've also been uploaded, either in an edited format to showcase the highlights of each match then uploading the full grand finals match as a separate video. The matches before grandfinals could be a simple 1 video containing all of the Pre finals or split into multiple videos, one containing match 1 and 2, the next video containing the 2 quarter final matches, and lastly, this finals.
Holy shi- Tortoise's comeback at Round 4 was so hyped omg xD Massive props on you, sister! You've been so amazing in this Grand Finals with your no 6 Star clears!
@@NikkiTheViolist seige S1? Not S2? Wouldn't texas S1 be better? Or are you relying on the seige stats and SP talent to get ahead on the cheaper texas and initial DP?
@@Santisima_Trinidad texas is rly fragile as vanguard so I guess that's why he used siege. Tho, siege is pretty expensive dp wise so I would rather use vanilla or scavenger, if I need damage, for the sake of dp effectivity
The only thing that could make this a legit eSports is a special permission granted by HG to have each account competing in the tourney, have all OPS Maxxed out completely within the duration of the Tournament, eliminating the Gacha-to-Win Factor of this eSports. Making it purely brain, and planning. Also, next time, have a Max Risk category. Just to see how many Players can pull it off.
@@pawacoteng awful and unnecessary scheduling changes that resulted in early CC without Dorothy, sniper modules, and Mag Y mod, resulting in a huge disadvantage when competing with CN
The only thing that I love about CC is the lobby's song. Now i want to see more content about CC again or something like this. Good job for everyone👏 this is really fun !!!👏👏
Tortoise proved that it doesn't matter the level of your units and use of meta, it depends on the brain you have. Like that one guy said, that whole max 6 stars is insane. I hold something like this will happen again, that was a fun match!
Would be pretty cool to have the operator bans stack up with each round. 6 initial bans in the first round, new 6 bans + the previous 6 on the second round, 18 on round 3 and so on. Would the challenge really intense in the later rounds.
I like the idea of Arknights being an e-sport of sort, despite being PvE. I just feel like the variety of operators allow for a wide range of strategies. It's only a matter of whether HG will see the potential for AK to have some sort of competitive form. Kudos to Vifer, Xairathan and everyone participating in the Challenger Cup.
Was very fun to watch. I think the systems needs an improvement to make both sides change strategies, and not just the same with a small operator variation, even when i was Amazed by tortoise strategy, was a little boring to see it 5 times in a row. I do recommend adding a permanent ban on top of the round ban, the loser of a round gets the right to ban one unit permanently for all future rounds, that gives the loser chance to comeback and as things get to round 5 there is 5 bans for both sides, that could really make them have to develop a completely new strategy for that final round.
Perma ban definitely, tho I would say each Dokutah gets one perma ban and 2 round bans at the start. But, they would have to play on sponsored/hacked accounts so that the RNJesus doesn't become the mvp.
Tortoise strat is really well build. They really know how to use those canons. Everec also did really good, the SA ban really hits them. If it were me, I would be panicking just to change ny strat because hes not there
Lol truly the tortoise and the hare story. Rushing down Manfred wasn’t worth it and slow but steady really came in clutch. Still both of them played well!
I still don't understand why no one bans Nearl+Kal+Weedy S3 every round, true damage is so centralizing in CC10 anyone who got it will have a big advantage
To answer this question. I think challengers like me have been practicing some other ops than those 3 for that tourney knowing that those ops will get banned by the opponents or by us. Also most of the time we rather do stick to our own squad or strategy to finish the match before the opponent do which is main goal of that tourney. To add up some people that has made to the final 8 still don't have them built (like me with Wendy S3 no Mastery). Since Tortoise did that gameplay to be immune to those bans, especially to not let their opponents know what to ban against Tortoise also they did prepared for other ops that have similar skills to improvise. But props to Everec for Banning Aurora since she was one of the key of Tortoise 4 minutes timer.
@@snowyatsu91 were competitors allowed to see their opponent's clear? bc I felt like banning Vulcan or Franka would completely kill Tortoise's finisher (max ASPD Manfred shooting Vulcan into Franka), but Everec didnt notice Tortoise going for his finisher every single round
@@lancergt1000 In top 64 to the final we are allowed to see them clear with their own strategy to either learn it or use the set up or counter ban the opponents. When it's our turn we only pay attention to ours mostly since we need to time up the cannon call, ops and Manfred instead of checking on opponents.
Basically we are allowed to see the competitors or future opponents clears until it our turn since we only pay attention to ours not to mess up (mess up means to restart which takes us longer to clear).
I think to make everything more interesting, the bans should carry over, for a total of 15 for the last round. That would definitely make it more challenging.
Wait, how is this even pvp, i mean, only the last few seconds count anyway cause whatever you do the first 95% doesnt matter since all spawns are scripted?0o
Sadly I couldnt partecipate, I was planning on dropping my troll 3 star squad＋conviction if I ever made it to top 8, amazing tournament and skill display from both contestants and all the other people who partecipated in it
I think a cool concept but bad in execution to watch is a stall run. Since there’s the cannon you can’t infinitely stall is there’ll be consistent damage. Ofc stalling is boring to watch tho
The fact that Cuora didn't take cannon aggro at 5:27 was complete luck. I was panicking and not paying attention to the timing and only realized afterwards how risky it had been...
It's crazy how close this was. Props to Everec and all the other competitors, and of course to everyone who helped make this happen.
Petition to get this comment pinned by Vifer. Much deserved!
Congratulations you deserved the win big respect to your no 6*stars run
Congrats for the win 🎉
Now that you mention it... is that what they called by pro gamer instinct?... goodjob for the win btw xD
You did amazing. Not using the op operators was amazing.
I'm like a (cringe) proud father to see Tortoise run throughout this tourney. 5 star niche is alive and eats well indeed! So happy!
the 2nd round is honestly the best round for me, the fact that everec's 1st ban is elysium but then proceed to bring elysium instantly is just peak 0 sanity doctor moment right there lmao
The muscle memory is strong in this one
OH MY GOD I'VE NEVER KNOW ARKNIGHTS GONNA BE THIS AMAZING WHEN IT WENT UP TO A TOURNAMENT. MY HIGHEST RESPECT TO VIFER, XAIRATHAN, AND ALL CHALLENGER.
Vifer and Xairathan cast is absolutely amazing imo.
@@rhodesislandpharmaceutical795 IKR it's honestly hype to watch
This is actually a viable option for Hypergryph for tournament setting; not only is it a tournament, it's also a showcase of the smartest strategies and an Operator showcase, meta or not, all in one bundle. Interesting concept; I was expecting to be bored but damn, there was nothing boring about it, had me at the edge of my seat
Ngl watching a tournament as close as this just blew my mind
This really makes me want to get into niches like tortoise and discover an entire new way of playing arknights
ggs to everyone that competed yall are awesome!
Please keep hosting events like this vifer this is so good
That Silverash ban was so key twice! That is something that I said for a long time, all the meta players see S3, but what makes Silverash so key is his invis detection and reduced redeploy and Everec not having another plan to deal with the invis drones really hurt the time.
Quite interesting idea that whole tournament, but using CC18 as the measuring stick is kind of weird, it would be nice to have another (maybe more permanent/rotating) option for something like this.
They did have an S2M3 Elysium, but the issue was they kept choosing redeploy times. But considering 5 stars are the largest source of invis detection (elysium, tsukinogi, scene), I think this CC was already going to be very hard for a 6 star niche since Horn doesn't have the tile set to be effective against the drones unless Everec decides to not phase skip and stall manfred when he is at far left of his path, thus horn can fire flares and detect the invisible drones should that ever be an option outside of elysium.
@@bullshot101 Well yeah, but for all other options (in the air) you need two units to deal with it as they reveal but don't deal damage, plus you are bound to the skill uptime, Silverash is just doing everything by just existing.
@@zomfgroflmao1337 as the crux of this argument is the second drone, horn illumination would be up for it, and scene is a passive revel, and placing her top left would be in range for the 8 tiles to attack. While this affects how much they can deploy, it's then ultimately the issue of flexibility again with what strategies can be used to avoid the scenario of no SA. While I can't do it like they do with archetto and the like, someone like ling could be useful for not only increasing the bomb call occurrence if the deploy timer modifier isn't chosen, it's a pool of 6 "low cost to stat" units for stall and bait.
I was on the edge of my seat when that last match happen, what an amazing comeback from Tortoise-chan.
Vifer you should DEFINITELY do this again for next CC! And yes, Xai should co-host again.
Xai providing the detailed insights at the right time was what made it really Pog. Awesome duo
So many new creative skills/talents usage of operators are being showcased here. Damn. Who would've thought tower defense can be such a competitive esports.
GGs to Tortoise and everyone else that competed, and thank you Vifer, Xairathan, and all involved for making this happen, it was a ton of fun!
The level 3 Manfred risk in the first round was a complete misclick and autopiloting Elysium in round 2 was not my brightest moment.
Hindsight is 20/20 though, and Tortoise proved very difficult to ban operatirs against due to the versatility of 5*s and their phenomenal mastery of the cannon.
Congratulations on second place! I was rooting for you the entire time. You had a big lead in the last two rounds only to have those damn drones rob you of the win by a few seconds. Nevertheless, those were some great clears under pressure!
Felt so good to see a creative player win. Just goes to prove how much unexplored potential there is in this game, especially with the 5* that some people say that are worthless. Totally deserved Tortoise, and you have my respect.
Amazing Franka and underrated Vulcan S1 showcase 🥰
Damn so many 5 stars, even provence s1, i should probably start looking into some of these skills, they looked fun to use. Thank you Vifer for making this CC feel even more exciting, tbh thought the idea would lead to boring full meta clears, but damn thank god i was wrong. Edit: 26:05 that realization of the messed up
…maybe my Liskarm needs an E2 partner.
This was a very memorable tournament, though I'm a little disappointed you didn't upload the other matches, one person (me) banned Castle-3 at one point and that was legendary!
Castle-3 banned gigachad moment
Uhh i would love to see that
I won't forget your sacrifice
That round 4 was actually some of the most hype stuff I've ever seen in my Arknights years. Props to both players and casters !
I was on the edge of my seat the entire match. Every round was so crazy in their own way and the finale could NOT have been closer. This was such a blast and I'm really glad I was able to help out with this. One of, if not the greatest time I had! Congrats to all everyone who made the top 8 and thank you for everyone who competed. You all made this such a great and entertaining event to watch and moderate. Hopefully, events like this are something that you all are excited to see happen again in the future. - Darrion (One of 8 Moderators working behind this amazing event)
Ah yes the first step towards becoming a esports game
For some reason i love the idea of competitive CCs sooo much!!! Usualy i'm not very involved into cyber-sport side of my favourite games, but this tournament might be the one and only exception. Really waiting for return of it with next CC season.
Congatulations, Tortoise-chan, "officialy" the best Arknights player for now!!!
The commentary and ban phase really give this game an esports feel. For something so simple as Arknights it feels so weird yet it also is hype.
To those who gamble points and even in the finals there is just a few second differences between winning and losing, congratulation for the winner
First of all, this match was absolutely hype, tortoise making a miraculous comeback was amazing.
Honestly I feel like the other matches should've also been uploaded, either in an edited format to showcase the highlights of each match then uploading the full grand finals match as a separate video.
The matches before grandfinals could be a simple 1 video containing all of the Pre finals or split into multiple videos, one containing match 1 and 2, the next video containing the 2 quarter final matches, and lastly, this finals.
Holy shi- Tortoise's comeback at Round 4 was so hyped omg xD
Massive props on you, sister! You've been so amazing in this Grand Finals with your no 6 Star clears!
Round 2's ban of both Elysium and Myrtle was fantastic.
At that point,
I would have no idea what to do.
Every risk18+ that I've done, I've used Siege S1 instead
@@NikkiTheViolist seige S1? Not S2? Wouldn't texas S1 be better? Or are you relying on the seige stats and SP talent to get ahead on the cheaper texas and initial DP?
@@Santisima_Trinidad texas is rly fragile as vanguard so I guess that's why he used siege. Tho, siege is pretty expensive dp wise so I would rather use vanilla or scavenger, if I need damage, for the sake of dp effectivity
Thank you Xairathan, I enjoy the insight!
I had so much fun being in this tournament, I can't wait for the next cc
This is actually a fun way to present a pvp in arknights, and I thought I was actually listening to a e-sports commentary. Impressive work
Xairathan is an amazing commentator!
Damn tortoise 5 star clear is unbeatable
The only thing that could make this a legit eSports is a special permission granted by HG to have each account competing in the tourney, have all OPS Maxxed out completely within the duration of the Tournament, eliminating the Gacha-to-Win Factor of this eSports.
Making it purely brain, and planning.
Also, next time, have a Max Risk category.
Just to see how many Players can pull it off.
Probably still useless since AK CN spoils us already, maybe in CN server this might be a good idea
Also a dedicated tournament mode, basically each round will have different stage from one another to add more challenge and variety. That would be rad
I've never expected this kind of content in Arknights, very exciting content to watch
It is so amazing to watch this again, even I watched it live.
Please do more tournaments like this 🥺
Damn Vifer. look at you! from an scammer in suit to holding such a crazy tournament. this was awesome. thank you and all challengers.
Holy molly, that was so hype. Tortoise is a really gigachad 5*.
Wp Everec and Tortoise, Vifer and Xairathan ♥.
This one is hype, the plot twist at the end is always fun to watch, but damn that 5 star Niche gameplay was really good. All hail tortoise🔥
Franka: "I don't need True Damage if all enemies have 0 Def."
that was fascinating to watch, never though I would like to see Arknights in such format. Thank you.
This was truly the best community event that I've had the pleasure of watching. Thank you for hosting it and fuck yostar
have a very fuck yostar day :^)
What's wrong with yostar?
@@pawacoteng awful and unnecessary scheduling changes that resulted in early CC without Dorothy, sniper modules, and Mag Y mod, resulting in a huge disadvantage when competing with CN
@@destawaits Okay, now I see why they were so angry.
This was truly history in the making
I never knew arknights is going to be this intense in a tournament. Really amazing
damn thats such a rollercoaster of emotion watching this
wow this production is amazing hope to see more completions like this!
This is amazing
Big shout out for participants. That probably was fairly stressful.
And shout out to you guys for organizing and commentary.
Да, shoot them all))
@@niklassjvar1635 а, точно)
Спасибо, поправил
The only thing that I love about CC is the lobby's song. Now i want to see more content about CC again or something like this. Good job for everyone👏 this is really fun !!!👏👏
Slow and steady wins the race -tortoise
This was amazing! I would very much want to see AK pvp again!
Tortoise proved that it doesn't matter the level of your units and use of meta, it depends on the brain you have. Like that one guy said, that whole max 6 stars is insane. I hold something like this will happen again, that was a fun match!
Would be pretty cool to have the operator bans stack up with each round. 6 initial bans in the first round, new 6 bans + the previous 6 on the second round, 18 on round 3 and so on. Would the challenge really intense in the later rounds.
I like the idea of Arknights being an e-sport of sort, despite being PvE. I just feel like the variety of operators allow for a wide range of strategies. It's only a matter of whether HG will see the potential for AK to have some sort of competitive form.
Kudos to Vifer, Xairathan and everyone participating in the Challenger Cup.
Damn the gamba joiners for this must've gone crazy towards the end...
Oh damn HYPE!
imagine if we get a tourney sponsor.
Was very fun to watch. I think the systems needs an improvement to make both sides change strategies, and not just the same with a small operator variation, even when i was Amazed by tortoise strategy, was a little boring to see it 5 times in a row.
I do recommend adding a permanent ban on top of the round ban, the loser of a round gets the right to ban one unit permanently for all future rounds, that gives the loser chance to comeback and as things get to round 5 there is 5 bans for both sides, that could really make them have to develop a completely new strategy for that final round.
Perma ban definitely, tho I would say each Dokutah gets one perma ban and 2 round bans at the start. But, they would have to play on sponsored/hacked accounts so that the RNJesus doesn't become the mvp.
Tortoise strat is really well build. They really know how to use those canons. Everec also did really good, the SA ban really hits them. If it were me, I would be panicking just to change ny strat because hes not there
Wow, this was awesome, is there any way to watch the rest of the tournament?
VOD's Vifer on Twitch maybe.
this is amazing!!!
if i remember, same thing also happened in bilibili and lowlight himself comes and watches the tournament
is there any link about it? i mean tournament video in bili bili
You can definitely sense the favouritism from the guest announcer.
holy sheyt dayum, tortoise is cracked hahahaha
This was actually really fun to watch
the tortoise comeback was absolutely CRAZY
Yostar : PvP doesn't exists..
Playerbase : Fine, we'll do it ourselves...
they should do picking phase where you cant pick the same characters
This was HYPE
WOW that was insane both players where incredibke
Lol truly the tortoise and the hare story. Rushing down Manfred wasn’t worth it and slow but steady really came in clutch. Still both of them played well!
Vifer not knowing that archetto has a shield is almost okay. But the fact that he doesnt know how a shield works.. Holy.
I think rather than unit ban u could also tell them to pick the risk resulting in dynamic gameplay
I'm so happy when we watched arknights tournament with friends was so fun
Wait, Xai was a w o m a n? Impossible
AMAZING TURNEY~
Nice content vifer keep it up
Finally pvp in arknights
Lets goo
I never knew arknights had tournaments but holySHIT THIS WAS SO FUN TO WATCH. gave me more dopamine than crack cocAINE
Where can I watch a recording of this tournament from the start? I want to see more matches than just the Grand Finals
Wow, tortoise low star strategy is more effective compare to my high end squad
This is so hype! Reminds me of the Rainbow Six Siege days
oh cool you made the thumbnail look like competitve smash bros
Asking because I don't know, but was the Kiarara ban to counter a strat, or was it a meme?
Very intense, I might join someday...
(maybe, I don't know, I don't have some special thing yet)
I still don't understand why no one bans Nearl+Kal+Weedy S3 every round, true damage is so centralizing in CC10 anyone who got it will have a big advantage
To answer this question. I think challengers like me have been practicing some other ops than those 3 for that tourney knowing that those ops will get banned by the opponents or by us. Also most of the time we rather do stick to our own squad or strategy to finish the match before the opponent do which is main goal of that tourney. To add up some people that has made to the final 8 still don't have them built (like me with Wendy S3 no Mastery). Since Tortoise did that gameplay to be immune to those bans, especially to not let their opponents know what to ban against Tortoise also they did prepared for other ops that have similar skills to improvise. But props to Everec for Banning Aurora since she was one of the key of Tortoise 4 minutes timer.
@@snowyatsu91 were competitors allowed to see their opponent's clear? bc I felt like banning Vulcan or Franka would completely kill Tortoise's finisher (max ASPD Manfred shooting Vulcan into Franka), but Everec didnt notice Tortoise going for his finisher every single round
@@lancergt1000 In top 64 to the final we are allowed to see them clear with their own strategy to either learn it or use the set up or counter ban the opponents. When it's our turn we only pay attention to ours mostly since we need to time up the cannon call, ops and Manfred instead of checking on opponents.
Basically we are allowed to see the competitors or future opponents clears until it our turn since we only pay attention to ours not to mess up (mess up means to restart which takes us longer to clear).
Why did Everec keep banning Kirara?
Because Kirara made Tortoise went to top 8 and into the grand final
I think to make everything more interesting, the bans should carry over, for a total of 15 for the last round.
That would definitely make it more challenging.
FRANKA POG FOR FIRST RUN
Franka ftw
Ling: grab my drink
hype as hell fr ghad daym
SLOW AND STEADY WINS THE RACE!
Are these matches still going ?
You can clear risk 18 with a full 4* team
You can do it with full 3* team)
Well yes, but this tournament is all about efficiency,not just whoever beats with the lowest rarity.
Also adaptability due to Banning phase
Truly the Arknights moment of all time
Damn .. so interesting.
Franka for the win damn..
omg this is soooo epic
How is a pve game commentary self made pvp more professional than pvp game events lol
That kirara ban💀
Wait, how is this even pvp, i mean, only the last few seconds count anyway cause whatever you do the first 95% doesnt matter since all spawns are scripted?0o
Xairathan says she and Vifer says he
SOOOOO is tortoise a boy or girl 😵💫
Sadly I couldnt partecipate, I was planning on dropping my troll 3 star squad＋conviction if I ever made it to top 8, amazing tournament and skill display from both contestants and all the other people who partecipated in it
I think a cool concept but bad in execution to watch is a stall run. Since there’s the cannon you can’t infinitely stall is there’ll be consistent damage. Ofc stalling is boring to watch tho
Niche vs Meta, ladies and gentlemen~ 👏😻
soo cool!