My head canon is that that the opening view of Hyrule Field shows what it looks like when Link grew up in a world where he stopped Ganondorf as a child.
@@runnersdialzero1244 Why not? We don't otherwise get a look at how Hyrule was after Zelda sent Link back in time, so it would be nice to see something of what the world was like after Ganon's defeat.
Without Ganondorf more trees would have grown and more rocks would have convened in circles. What could have been. (I do like this headcanon. Maybe what it looked like when Link grew up after coming back from Termina.)
I have been with depression these days , but as silly as it sounds when I get a notification of one of your "cool things" I start thinking which one is the one I don't know and feel a little excited to know. The first one I already knew it , but with that intro sound you make me cry remembering the old times playing these game originally. Thank you a lot.
My friend, I feel this comment deeply. Sometimes I'll hear some of the old music I used to hear all the time but don't hear too often anymore, or I'll see an old cutscene featuring some NPCs having an emotional or joyful moment that I used to pretty much take for granted, and it'll cause me to just kinda well up a bit with tears, even gasp a little sometimes. It's a lot, but it's kinda cathartic I guess it's like a bit of pressure being released, and the thing that trips it can be surprising sometimes
I’ve always noticed the bridge looked fixed as a kid in the intro comparing to gameplay. My headcanon was this was taken place after Ganondorf’s defeat.
Remember that pretty much immediately after his defeat, Link was sent back in time to have his childhood returned to him. Afterwards, Link left Hyrule, still young, and eventually found himself in Termina. (Or... died in the lost woods and became the Hero's Shade depending on your perspective. Idk. That's just a Theory). The timeline where Ganondorf is defeated after the time skip does remain, but Link is no longer a part of it, and thus, he couldn't have been riding through Hyrule after its restoration. The only other timeline left is the one where Link is killed, or otherwise fails, and Ganondorf succeeds. The only real possibility there is if Link returned, as an adult, to Hyrule years after his victory in Termina, and never actually died. That could also explain some of the inconsistent terrain. A lot happened in those 7 years, clearly lol
@@nebulous9280 Link likely became the Hero's Shade after many years, not immediately. Easy enough for Link to return to being a kid, travel to Termina, return to Hyrule, grow up, live a life, and then die in the Lost Woods and become the Hero's Shade.
@@nebulous9280 I think link became the hero’s shade after many years of seeing that after saving not 1 but 2 worlds, his efforts and accomplishments were unrewarded due to no one knowing what he’s done. I don’t buy into the termina as purgatory theory like so many others. The hero’s shade is clearly an older version of link.
@@MarcusTalks1 Also, to reinforce that, the purgatory/"Link is dead in MM" theory quite literally can't be true, as while adults are said to become Stalfos, children that die in the Lost Woods become Skull Kids, which Hero's Shade definitely isn't (Navi on Skull Kid: "Is this what happens to kids who wander into the forest?")
Growing up, my sister and I thought that the opening scene was one of Link's dreams before Ganondorf started to make his move. Free from the confines of Kokiri Forest, grown up beyond his current state... but because he never knew what the world would look like, of course it wouldn't match with the actual layout of Hyrule Field. Maybe we were on to something after all.
The fact that the fog clears after the water temple really makes you wonder how much thought Nintendo may have put into having Zora's domain thaw out. Wonder if it would have allowed for a few new discoveries, or just Kakariko and Goron city where we could once more see NPCs. Would be interesting if something like the freezing happens in Tears of the Kingdom, could be a great way to fulfill that lifelong dream of many fans who thought there was a great secret held beneath the ice that froze the Zoras
Something like this already happens in Twilight Princess, to progress you need to have Midna warp in a giant flaming bolder from death Mountain and drop it on the Frozen Domain, thawing it. (And once you come back with water Bombs you can blow the sunken bolder up to free a Goron)
@@Lego3400 That's true, but it did feel pretty brief, and I'd say didn't have quite as much impact compared to Ocarina of Time where players weren't expecting a previously peaceful location to be so drastically afflicted.
I've always thought that the intro represents link having one last ride with epona through hyrule as an adult, zelda didn't teleport him to the past, she just sent him to the temple of time to put the master sword back in the pedestal, but before that he probably just wanted to see everything before going back (that's my head canon)
@@Jotari well i mean you could say the lands started blooming after evil was banished, it wouldn't be unreasonable, we are talking about a game where magic exists
the ending cutscene seems to show the past and future merging so that everyone can live their stuff over again, but keep the good parts (like g-dog being sealed away) so that kind of scans.
0:27 It is possible that the intro sequence displays adult Link riding through Hyrule Field _after_ the events of having defeated Ganon, travelled back in time, and alerted Zelda... In which case, it is actually the Hero of Time we see traversing the meadows before the sunrise...
The cutscene in Kakariko is most likely they had an earlier version of Adult Kakariko with different npcs in it, but then it was changed partway through development. And most likely they didn’t bother to go back and remove unseen npcs from a cutscene of an earlier build of Kakariko.
I like that Kakariko village looks different during the cutscene of Death Mountain being cleansed. It shows that it is indeed an active town while Link is away.
I once saw a secret dialogue with King Zora where, if you get the Zora tunic before freeing him from the red ice, he offers to give you a kiss as a reward... though he reassures Link he's only joking. XD
Don't some of the rock cricles in the game have secret grottos in the center by bombing them if I recall correctly? I wonder if there is a grotto hidden where those rocks are located in the intro.
Before, I'd sorta come to think of Ocarina as a triumphant product of its time. I mean, I've been in love with it since 98, and I knew it to be gaming's Citizen Kane moment. But the minute details you put on display in this series kinda shatters that myth: Limited though it was by hardware (as are we all), the polish and love in this game is of the absolute highest degree―Ocarina really is _timeless_
I think that's what a lot of people miss when re-evaluating the game - the details in the game aren't just mild flourish, they help to keep the graphics and environments from being *severely* dated by the low polygon count. People tend to get hung-up on the textures and geometry since it is the most apparent aspect of the game (and as someone who loves great low poly art I think it, and Majora's Mask, look great), but the subtle ambient effects, such as the wild track, lighting values, dynamic sky textures, and dynamic weather, keep the world from feeling static, bizarre, and blatantly artificial and limited. There is still breath in these flat textures and simple polygons. Those who can get past the graphics can find themselves immersed in this world. I also think one thing that makes it so fun to go back to is the subtle gameplay details, such as the notable systemic elements. I love how any wooden texture can be hooked into with the the hookshot, much like Thief's Rope Arrows. It results in less telegraphed situations where the hookshot can be used and requires players to try things they may not think might work, only to be surprised it does. The clawshot is a surface-level innovation to the hookshot as it allows the player to hang onto a target (follow-up actions are often identified, perhaps misguidedly, as proof of greater depth), but what it really does is shrink the amount of surfaces the item can interact with down to just grates and vines. If you forgot to plant a Magic Bean in the Kakariko Graveyard as a child when you first pull the Master Sword, you can stand on one of the graves and hookshot into the wooden box containing the Heart Piece to obtain it. That's the kind of player possibility that is missing from the post-N64 Zelda games and wouldn't see a return until Breath of the Wild. The game has certainly aged, but those aesthetic and mechanic details means it has aged far slower and far less than its often given credit for. Elements so subtle that their effects are felt, but perhaps not consciously observed.
Fun fact: The pile of bricks at the construction site is in that specific position because that's where the Shooting Gallery loading zone is, the pile was placed to block access to the loading zone as child.
In the cutscene when Link arrives in Ganon's Tower and Ganondorf is playing the organ, he, Zelda (trapped inside a crystal in the ceiling) and Link forms the Triforce symbol because of their positions.
I would definitely say that the added stuff in the intro is all about breaking up the monotony of the frames where there is too much negative space on screen, ie, too much empty grass.
When I first played the game, I thought King Zora was talking about Darunia when he mentioned "Biggoron". I later found out that the giant goron on Death Mountain was actually named "Biggoron".
After all these years, there are still uncovered details in this (and Majoras Mask too!) game. Masterpiece. It’s so amazing. These videos take me back to the first time I played it as a kid. Good times…
This is my favorite game of all time and as someone who tends to play games slowly, taking in all the details, how the ck did I never notice the withered trees?
It just occurred to me that rocks in a circular formation likely function exactly the same as coins that are also in a circular formation in Mario 64, where it's just a singular object that uses a formula to perfectly space 8 rocks in an even circle :o
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned since they're right there on screen during the whole pan, but the chickens are also present in Karkariko village during that scene, when all but one is absent in Adult Link's time.
Hey Looygi, for #3 if you gave the gatekeeper the Keaton mask, would he be wearing it that cutscene? I'm just curious, because if he is wearing the mask it might clarify how it is pulling and storing those models for that cutscene. Like if it is just using an earlier Kakoriko village asset build or if it calling the models from the model pool.
Fantastic work on the video. I can tell you put a solid amount of time into the camera angles and comparisons. Also there are things I've never even noticed in this video. I wonder if the changed Hyrule Field was intentional.
I'd assume the title screen may be from before the timeskip was finalized, if not even from before it was implemented. Alot of the details feeding into the dark atmosphere of the adult timeperiod only make sense in the context of you having seen an intact version prior, so they wouldn't have existed before. Kind of a shame tho, that they seemingly made Hyrule Field slightly emptier in the final game.
What a game!!! How much brain and wits were used to make it. No game is even close to this masterpiece!!! I was very lucky to have n64 when i was 8 (now 32 father of a boy which is 8). Finished 👏it probably 30 times, but still your videos leave me amazed!!! You have my sub and please continue your fantastic work!!!
0:49 You can also see the top of Death Mountain, even though it's on the complete opposite side of Hyrule. (And during the cutscene of Death Mountain erupting, there's the grass in front of the guard as well.)
I believe the reddish lighting from Death Mountain's red cloud ring is also visible when you leave the temple of time. I always loved seeing the ring cloud lit up when exiting the temple, it really looked cool. Too bad the red cloud isn't visible in hyrule field. I also think the intro scene of hyrule field could've been potentially apart of a pre-release edition of the game that they decided to leave in. Same with the kakariko village cutscene.
A small bit of fortunate news: according to the game's writers, no in Castle Town died when Ganondorf took over. The Redeads there were made from clay and long-dead bones of people from before that time.
@@landmine121 Maybe they meant no civilians? The guard and others cold have died successfully evacuating the city. However I have never heard this statement from any of the writers so I would like to see where it comes from myself.
@@landmine121 techincally, that gaurd shouldnt exist. its most likely a scrapped npc they forgot to get rid of because no one even akcnowledges his existence in the market
Here’s something interesting. After getting the Hookshot Navi says an evil wind is blowing Into Kokiri Forest. This could be leftover text from when the Forest Temple was originally going to be the Wind Temple.
I always thought that it was a missed opportunity to keep Zora's Domain and Fountain frozen. It would've been a nice addition to have extra content after the water temple, like a new game instead of the diving one and other stuff. The developers probably ran out of time and kept it as it is, and you can tell by how empty Zora's Fountain looks without Jabu-Jabu.
When I was young, I always wondered where Link went to exit Hyrule after defeating Ganondorf & putting back the Master Sword in the Temple of Time. Everywhere you go it's surrounded by mountains or tall walls of dirt like in the Lost Woods where you can only travel through hollow tree trunks. So when I saw that opening of a forest up the lake of where Jabu Jabu was, I figured it must have been there that he went since it's started in a forest at the beginning of Majora's Mask. But how could he have gone there with Epona xD
I think its a good bet that originally those ‘ghosts’ made it to Kakariko in the adult timeline but that changed as development progressed and they were removed from the main map but not cutscene map. Would have been cool if the guard was still there after all this time, the last soldier of Hyrule still standing guard.
I felt like a travel in time when the comparisons of kakariko village pre-rendered bitmapped scenes from death mountain trail started. It's like diving into a nostalgia good feeling rememberace.
Another note about the Water Temple and environmental changes: Upon Morpha’s defeat, the perpetual rainstorm in Lake Hylia ends (in addition, of course, to the cutscene of the water returning to a purified state and rising). It is also interesting to note that, even in its “impure” state, Link is able to be in Lake Hylia’s water without harm, as opposed to the swamp water in the Southern Swamp in Majora’s Mask, which is hazardous prior to Odolwa’s defeat in the Woodfall Temple.
These Zelda OOT videos are amazing! Keep up the good work. Have you considered narrating them audibly? This would be a dream come true and would make rewatching these videos over and over again much easier.
Something to let people know, I sometimes be watching ZFL play a randomizer of this game. Dungeons and caves changed, the merchant the game and different spots, and even the different forms between the original OoT and Master quest. He even conducted a way to collect for a chance to have key rings. And even some of the bosses are not in their own dungeons sometimes.
I still wonder why the devs decided to leave zoras domain frozen, I was so sad as a child when I went back after beating the water temple and seeing that nothing had changed.
Fun fact if you charge a spin attack and release while moving the movement stick in a circular motion while z targeting Link will Perform a slightly longer spin attack!
My theory about the cutscenes was that at least some of them were probably made earlier in development. Especially in the title screen cutscene; it was probably a proof of concept thing in the later half of the game's development. Some of the random characters being in the Kakariko/Death Mountain cutscene could be explained with "the cutscene crashed when we deleted the models for some reason so we kept them in."
I'm not sure if you have covered this or not, but I think the rotating platform in the windmill is really a floating ice block. As child Link when you stand on it, he starts to shiver and sneeze as the platform rotates!
Adult and child link both act cold and sneeze inside the windmill because the map is physically connected with Dampe's grave without a loading transition. Most graves and spooky places (including Dampe's grave) have the cold environment flag set, and that flag can only be set or unset on room load. So the windmill also has the cold environment flag set as a result.
I don't know where to submit these, so I'm putting this here...I just figured out that Dampe the gravekeeper does not actually move unless you have him on screen. I sat waiting for him for a half hour just now, got impatient, looked to see where he was, and he hadn't moved. I tested it by letting him move a few steps, looking away for a minute or two and looking again and yeah Dampe does not seem to move at all unless you have him onscreen
From what i learned from another channel [Dev topic] Because when in development the maps weren't finalized and the cutscene people need it to work the engine is made with the feature to freeze the map characteristics so if later some of the map was changed, it does not affect the cutscene because it will load the original map from when the cutscene was made. What does this mean, it means you can see beta maps when a cutscene triggers (Like in the Metal boots room when Sheik talks to you).
The different characters in kakariko are probably just leftover from a previous version of the map. It's most likely whoever made the cutscene just copied the map data as it existed to make the cutscene, but then the town changed afterwards.
I always, always wanted to be able to enter Hyrule Castle town on Epona, but I guess the N64 wouldn’t have been able to handle that graphics wise. Same with Kakariko Village because as a kid I hated leaving Epona outside by herself!
About kakariko village, I won't lie; when I had a computer, working on my audio engineering skills, I mixed rain sounds with these "creepy" atmosphere, to get my sleep soundtrack. Hehehe
another amazing video congratulations!, I love your style of video especially the Zelda ones, I'm happy to know that my favorite game has so much content even though it's a 1998 game.🤗
Is it weird to think that this game has better graphics and details than some new games lol especially the lighting and atmosphere the whole game has a perfect presentation.
My head canon is that that the opening view of Hyrule Field shows what it looks like when Link grew up in a world where he stopped Ganondorf as a child.
why would that be shown, though
@@runnersdialzero1244 Why not? We don't otherwise get a look at how Hyrule was after Zelda sent Link back in time, so it would be nice to see something of what the world was like after Ganon's defeat.
Without Ganondorf more trees would
have grown and more rocks would have convened in circles. What could have been.
(I do like this headcanon. Maybe what it looked like when Link grew up after coming back from Termina.)
Or if Link was able to stay in the adult timeline and was there to see Hyrule's reconstruction.
This is it
Given how massive Biggoron is, I have to wonder why he isn't out there smashing Ganon's forces to smithereens like a kaiju.
Ganondorf cursed the great deku tree to death, i think he'd have something up his sleeve in the event that Biggoron came after him.
1:28 That's crazy. That tree is so iconic but I never noticed it didn't really exist.
I haven't seen the full intro in YEARS (maybe even 10-15) si I didn't realize there was a false tree
I watch the full intro every time I play, AND I hang out by the river, and I've never noticed lol 😆
Looygi Bross
It makes sense that it's removed. If the tree was there, during gameplay, it would make it less obvious where the entrance to Zora River is.
I think some small part of me registered it. that rung half a bell. I think once I was walking that way and was like "hey isn't there a tree here?"
They didn't have to make Link's sneezes so cute, but they did. Always love to see him sneeze.
I never even knew he could do that!
I have been with depression these days , but as silly as it sounds when I get a notification of one of your "cool things" I start thinking which one is the one I don't know and feel a little excited to know. The first one I already knew it , but with that intro sound you make me cry remembering the old times playing these game originally.
Thank you a lot.
My friend, I feel this comment deeply. Sometimes I'll hear some of the old music I used to hear all the time but don't hear too often anymore, or I'll see an old cutscene featuring some NPCs having an emotional or joyful moment that I used to pretty much take for granted, and it'll cause me to just kinda well up a bit with tears, even gasp a little sometimes. It's a lot, but it's kinda cathartic
I guess it's like a bit of pressure being released, and the thing that trips it can be surprising sometimes
I can see myself write that comments !
You are not alone brother ❤️
Grog, is that you?
Looygi Bross
You’re not alone. ❤
I’ve always noticed the bridge looked fixed as a kid in the intro comparing to gameplay. My headcanon was this was taken place after Ganondorf’s defeat.
When Link has aged 7 years naturally?
Remember that pretty much immediately after his defeat, Link was sent back in time to have his childhood returned to him. Afterwards, Link left Hyrule, still young, and eventually found himself in Termina. (Or... died in the lost woods and became the Hero's Shade depending on your perspective. Idk. That's just a Theory).
The timeline where Ganondorf is defeated after the time skip does remain, but Link is no longer a part of it, and thus, he couldn't have been riding through Hyrule after its restoration. The only other timeline left is the one where Link is killed, or otherwise fails, and Ganondorf succeeds.
The only real possibility there is if Link returned, as an adult, to Hyrule years after his victory in Termina, and never actually died.
That could also explain some of the inconsistent terrain. A lot happened in those 7 years, clearly lol
@@nebulous9280 Link likely became the Hero's Shade after many years, not immediately. Easy enough for Link to return to being a kid, travel to Termina, return to Hyrule, grow up, live a life, and then die in the Lost Woods and become the Hero's Shade.
@@nebulous9280 I think link became the hero’s shade after many years of seeing that after saving not 1 but 2 worlds, his efforts and accomplishments were unrewarded due to no one knowing what he’s done. I don’t buy into the termina as purgatory theory like so many others. The hero’s shade is clearly an older version of link.
@@MarcusTalks1 Also, to reinforce that, the purgatory/"Link is dead in MM" theory quite literally can't be true, as while adults are said to become Stalfos, children that die in the Lost Woods become Skull Kids, which Hero's Shade definitely isn't (Navi on Skull Kid: "Is this what happens to kids who wander into the forest?")
I’m glad someone finally pointed out the differences in the title intro!
Growing up, my sister and I thought that the opening scene was one of Link's dreams before Ganondorf started to make his move. Free from the confines of Kokiri Forest, grown up beyond his current state... but because he never knew what the world would look like, of course it wouldn't match with the actual layout of Hyrule Field.
Maybe we were on to something after all.
But he didn't know he was a Hylian yet. He was surprised he was bigger when he woke up in the Sacred Realm.
@@burger_kinghorn he didn't know ganondorf either yet but saw him in his dream.
I can't belive how there are still so many things to discover in this game. I most of these were things I never noticed before
The fact that the fog clears after the water temple really makes you wonder how much thought Nintendo may have put into having Zora's domain thaw out. Wonder if it would have allowed for a few new discoveries, or just Kakariko and Goron city where we could once more see NPCs. Would be interesting if something like the freezing happens in Tears of the Kingdom, could be a great way to fulfill that lifelong dream of many fans who thought there was a great secret held beneath the ice that froze the Zoras
Something like this already happens in Twilight Princess, to progress you need to have Midna warp in a giant flaming bolder from death Mountain and drop it on the Frozen Domain, thawing it.
(And once you come back with water Bombs you can blow the sunken bolder up to free a Goron)
@@Lego3400
That's true, but it did feel pretty brief, and I'd say didn't have quite as much impact compared to Ocarina of Time where players weren't expecting a previously peaceful location to be so drastically afflicted.
Love your Guybrush Threepwood icon.
I've always thought that the intro represents link having one last ride with epona through hyrule as an adult, zelda didn't teleport him to the past, she just sent him to the temple of time to put the master sword back in the pedestal, but before that he probably just wanted to see everything before going back (that's my head canon)
And tress miraculously popped up in that time?
@@Jotari well i mean you could say the lands started blooming after evil was banished, it wouldn't be unreasonable, we are talking about a game where magic exists
@@sergiovillanueva4807 What about the rocks?
the ending cutscene seems to show the past and future merging so that everyone can live their stuff over again, but keep the good parts (like g-dog being sealed away) so that kind of scans.
That would be a pretty cool and deep explanation actually, but most likely, it was just a quick but iconic cutscene with no real meaning behind it.
These videos are so incredibly cozy. Thanks for always uploading them! Makes me wanna play these games again :)
Nearly a quarter century old and still I learn more. Thanks for this!
"Time passes, people move... Like a rivers flow, it never ends..."
-shiek
0:27 It is possible that the intro sequence displays adult Link riding through Hyrule Field _after_ the events of having defeated Ganon, travelled back in time, and alerted Zelda... In which case, it is actually the Hero of Time we see traversing the meadows before the sunrise...
What a wonderful interpretation! Changes how I view the intro now.
Hearing that intro music again is so nice.
I need to play this game again.
The cutscene in Kakariko is most likely they had an earlier version of Adult Kakariko with different npcs in it, but then it was changed partway through development. And most likely they didn’t bother to go back and remove unseen npcs from a cutscene of an earlier build of Kakariko.
I find the NPCs in that Kakariko cutscene to be interesting, especially since some of them are only seen in the end credits, during the Adult Time
I like that Kakariko village looks different during the cutscene of Death Mountain being cleansed. It shows that it is indeed an active town while Link is away.
revisiting these scenes certainly takes me back to when i first played it back in 98.
Never knew there was a secret dialogue when you wear Goron mask to king Zora !
How do you find all these !? You genius
I once saw a secret dialogue with King Zora where, if you get the Zora tunic before freeing him from the red ice, he offers to give you a kiss as a reward... though he reassures Link he's only joking. XD
@@Kelaiah01 I would love a kiss from king zora :D
@@Angie-oh6fp *_*Mweep*_*
@@chompythebeast *mweep intensify*
@@Angie-oh6fp Y'know, between Ruto, King Zora, Mipha and Sidon, zora tend to be quite thirsty for Link. ;)
Don't some of the rock cricles in the game have secret grottos in the center by bombing them if I recall correctly? I wonder if there is a grotto hidden where those rocks are located in the intro.
You can also use the hammer if you want to save bombs.
@@albedo8451 And I think the Song of Storms opens secret grottos as well.
64iOS? You've your own channel!
Your videos are always a pleasure to watch! The editing, the camera, the rhythm and the overall content are really good! 👍
Before, I'd sorta come to think of Ocarina as a triumphant product of its time. I mean, I've been in love with it since 98, and I knew it to be gaming's Citizen Kane moment. But the minute details you put on display in this series kinda shatters that myth: Limited though it was by hardware (as are we all), the polish and love in this game is of the absolute highest degree―Ocarina really is _timeless_
I think that's what a lot of people miss when re-evaluating the game - the details in the game aren't just mild flourish, they help to keep the graphics and environments from being *severely* dated by the low polygon count. People tend to get hung-up on the textures and geometry since it is the most apparent aspect of the game (and as someone who loves great low poly art I think it, and Majora's Mask, look great), but the subtle ambient effects, such as the wild track, lighting values, dynamic sky textures, and dynamic weather, keep the world from feeling static, bizarre, and blatantly artificial and limited. There is still breath in these flat textures and simple polygons. Those who can get past the graphics can find themselves immersed in this world.
I also think one thing that makes it so fun to go back to is the subtle gameplay details, such as the notable systemic elements. I love how any wooden texture can be hooked into with the the hookshot, much like Thief's Rope Arrows. It results in less telegraphed situations where the hookshot can be used and requires players to try things they may not think might work, only to be surprised it does. The clawshot is a surface-level innovation to the hookshot as it allows the player to hang onto a target (follow-up actions are often identified, perhaps misguidedly, as proof of greater depth), but what it really does is shrink the amount of surfaces the item can interact with down to just grates and vines. If you forgot to plant a Magic Bean in the Kakariko Graveyard as a child when you first pull the Master Sword, you can stand on one of the graves and hookshot into the wooden box containing the Heart Piece to obtain it. That's the kind of player possibility that is missing from the post-N64 Zelda games and wouldn't see a return until Breath of the Wild.
The game has certainly aged, but those aesthetic and mechanic details means it has aged far slower and far less than its often given credit for. Elements so subtle that their effects are felt, but perhaps not consciously observed.
Fun fact: The pile of bricks at the construction site is in that specific position because that's where the Shooting Gallery loading zone is, the pile was placed to block access to the loading zone as child.
i thought the door entity was still there by accident. i know if you work hard you can clip through and enter that door
In the cutscene when Link arrives in Ganon's Tower and Ganondorf is playing the organ, he, Zelda (trapped inside a crystal in the ceiling) and Link forms the Triforce symbol because of their positions.
I would definitely say that the added stuff in the intro is all about breaking up the monotony of the frames where there is too much negative space on screen, ie, too much empty grass.
When I first played the game, I thought King Zora was talking about Darunia when he mentioned "Biggoron". I later found out that the giant goron on Death Mountain was actually named "Biggoron".
It would have made more sense for King Zora to hang out with Darunia instead, what with them being both leaders of their lands.
After all these years, there are still uncovered details in this (and Majoras Mask too!) game. Masterpiece. It’s so amazing. These videos take me back to the first time I played it as a kid. Good times…
This is my favorite game of all time and as someone who tends to play games slowly, taking in all the details, how the ck did I never notice the withered trees?
It just occurred to me that rocks in a circular formation likely function exactly the same as coins that are also in a circular formation in Mario 64, where it's just a singular object that uses a formula to perfectly space 8 rocks in an even circle :o
Every time one of these o.o.t. or m.m. videos come out im always worried it'll be your last. Please keep them coming!
Your content is absolutely grand! Best videos breaking down hidden or weird content for sure 👌
I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned since they're right there on screen during the whole pan, but the chickens are also present in Karkariko village during that scene, when all but one is absent in Adult Link's time.
Hey Looygi, for #3 if you gave the gatekeeper the Keaton mask, would he be wearing it that cutscene?
I'm just curious, because if he is wearing the mask it might clarify how it is pulling and storing those models for that cutscene. Like if it is just using an earlier Kakoriko village asset build or if it calling the models from the model pool.
Anyone else think the Kakariko mini-map looks like a buck-toothed ghost?
Always thought lake hylia looked like a really fat turkey
@@mcjack7038 I'm looking at the mini map but ain't seeing it. I may be looking wrong LOL
Can't unsee that 🤣
Now I can't unsee it. 😩
@@mcjack7038 Looks more like an eggplant to me.
Fantastic work on the video. I can tell you put a solid amount of time into the camera angles and comparisons. Also there are things I've never even noticed in this video. I wonder if the changed Hyrule Field was intentional.
I'd assume the title screen may be from before the timeskip was finalized, if not even from before it was implemented. Alot of the details feeding into the dark atmosphere of the adult timeperiod only make sense in the context of you having seen an intact version prior, so they wouldn't have existed before. Kind of a shame tho, that they seemingly made Hyrule Field slightly emptier in the final game.
The framerate on the debug cam seems a lot less choppy now. These are such a joy to watch!
Could you do an analysis or history of the ambient sounds in the game? where do those bird sounds come from, for example?
I don't think I ever watched this much of the intro cinematic. I always started the game asap.
What a game!!! How much brain and wits were used to make it. No game is even close to this masterpiece!!!
I was very lucky to have n64 when i was 8 (now 32 father of a boy which is 8). Finished 👏it probably 30 times, but still your videos leave me amazed!!! You have my sub and please continue your fantastic work!!!
This is your most intriguing video yet! Great job!
0:49 You can also see the top of Death Mountain, even though it's on the complete opposite side of Hyrule. (And during the cutscene of Death Mountain erupting, there's the grass in front of the guard as well.)
Intressting that the Gatekeeper in the older version wears not the Mask in the Cutscene and that with Biggoron with the eneny Target was perfect
Confirmed, Title screen is set in the child timeline!
I suspect that its because at certain point only adult link was meant to be playable, so that makes sense.
really really love the interesting camera movements
7:20 I kinda Noticed the Sky Turned Grey During the Day in Kakariko Village before you Cleared the Fire Temple!
I believe the reddish lighting from Death Mountain's red cloud ring is also visible when you leave the temple of time. I always loved seeing the ring cloud lit up when exiting the temple, it really looked cool. Too bad the red cloud isn't visible in hyrule field.
I also think the intro scene of hyrule field could've been potentially apart of a pre-release edition of the game that they decided to leave in. Same with the kakariko village cutscene.
A small bit of fortunate news: according to the game's writers, no in Castle Town died when Ganondorf took over. The Redeads there were made from clay and long-dead bones of people from before that time.
No one? What about the guard in the back alley that Navi states "He's not breathing". He died.
@@landmine121 except that guy.
He dead as f*ck 😂
@@landmine121 Maybe they meant no civilians? The guard and others cold have died successfully evacuating the city. However I have never heard this statement from any of the writers so I would like to see where it comes from myself.
@@landmine121 techincally, that gaurd shouldnt exist. its most likely a scrapped npc they forgot to get rid of because no one even akcnowledges his existence in the market
I really like the low poly things/sprites for characters/maps!
Here’s something interesting. After getting the Hookshot Navi says an evil wind is blowing Into Kokiri Forest. This could be leftover text from when the Forest Temple was originally going to be the Wind Temple.
I always thought that it was a missed opportunity to keep Zora's Domain and Fountain frozen. It would've been a nice addition to have extra content after the water temple, like a new game instead of the diving one and other stuff. The developers probably ran out of time and kept it as it is, and you can tell by how empty Zora's Fountain looks without Jabu-Jabu.
Totally. It would have shown progression.
It's for gameplay purposes, unfreezing it would make the big goron quest way easier and you wouldn't be able to reenter Ice Cavern.
@@Mari_Izu actually you can still enter it you just need a levitation cheat but it won't crash the game...
@@aerisgainsborough2141 What the hell a levitation cheat has something to do with what I said? You can enter it even as kid Link with that.
When I was young, I always wondered where Link went to exit Hyrule after defeating Ganondorf & putting back the Master Sword in the Temple of Time. Everywhere you go it's surrounded by mountains or tall walls of dirt like in the Lost Woods where you can only travel through hollow tree trunks. So when I saw that opening of a forest up the lake of where Jabu Jabu was, I figured it must have been there that he went since it's started in a forest at the beginning of Majora's Mask. But how could he have gone there with Epona xD
I think its a good bet that originally those ‘ghosts’ made it to Kakariko in the adult timeline but that changed as development progressed and they were removed from the main map but not cutscene map.
Would have been cool if the guard was still there after all this time, the last soldier of Hyrule still standing guard.
I felt like a travel in time when the comparisons of kakariko village pre-rendered bitmapped scenes from death mountain trail started. It's like diving into a nostalgia good feeling rememberace.
Another note about the Water Temple and environmental changes: Upon Morpha’s defeat, the perpetual rainstorm in Lake Hylia ends (in addition, of course, to the cutscene of the water returning to a purified state and rising). It is also interesting to note that, even in its “impure” state, Link is able to be in Lake Hylia’s water without harm, as opposed to the swamp water in the Southern Swamp in Majora’s Mask, which is hazardous prior to Odolwa’s defeat in the Woodfall Temple.
Had no idea that Link was that short, cool video
These videos are absolute quality
These Zelda OOT videos are amazing! Keep up the good work. Have you considered narrating them audibly? This would be a dream come true and would make rewatching these videos over and over again much easier.
You may have not considered that the Looygi Bros don't wanna.
The title screen really is a huge spoiler isn't it? I never considered that before.
Something to let people know, I sometimes be watching ZFL play a randomizer of this game. Dungeons and caves changed, the merchant the game and different spots, and even the different forms between the original OoT and Master quest. He even conducted a way to collect for a chance to have key rings. And even some of the bosses are not in their own dungeons sometimes.
I still wonder why the devs decided to leave zoras domain frozen, I was so sad as a child when I went back after beating the water temple and seeing that nothing had changed.
Didn't know about the Goron Mask easter egg... That was nice.
You wouldn't believe how fast I clicked on the video. I can't ever get tired of your videos! Thanks!
Fun fact if you charge a spin attack and release while moving the movement stick in a circular motion while z targeting Link will Perform a slightly longer spin attack!
God damn, i Love this Channel. Played those games 20 times and my eyes are so dark for this stuff here
"Ghosts in Kakariko Village?" Ahem, yes? Pretty much everywhere.
My theory about the cutscenes was that at least some of them were probably made earlier in development. Especially in the title screen cutscene; it was probably a proof of concept thing in the later half of the game's development. Some of the random characters being in the Kakariko/Death Mountain cutscene could be explained with "the cutscene crashed when we deleted the models for some reason so we kept them in."
0:28 probably what happened in Link's future after the game ended
Everytime I hear that intro I just know I’m about to see some sick Zelda Easter eggs :]
I'm not sure if you have covered this or not, but I think the rotating platform in the windmill is really a floating ice block. As child Link when you stand on it, he starts to shiver and sneeze as the platform rotates!
Adult and child link both act cold and sneeze inside the windmill because the map is physically connected with Dampe's grave without a loading transition. Most graves and spooky places (including Dampe's grave) have the cold environment flag set, and that flag can only be set or unset on room load. So the windmill also has the cold environment flag set as a result.
Yay the old lady lived!
I don't know where to submit these, so I'm putting this here...I just figured out that Dampe the gravekeeper does not actually move unless you have him on screen. I sat waiting for him for a half hour just now, got impatient, looked to see where he was, and he hadn't moved. I tested it by letting him move a few steps, looking away for a minute or two and looking again and yeah Dampe does not seem to move at all unless you have him onscreen
From what i learned from another channel [Dev topic]
Because when in development the maps weren't finalized and the cutscene people need it to work the engine is made with the feature to freeze the map characteristics so if later some of the map was changed, it does not affect the cutscene because it will load the original map from when the cutscene was made.
What does this mean, it means you can see beta maps when a cutscene triggers (Like in the Metal boots room when Sheik talks to you).
The different characters in kakariko are probably just leftover from a previous version of the map. It's most likely whoever made the cutscene just copied the map data as it existed to make the cutscene, but then the town changed afterwards.
I love these videos, and I never noticed the ghosts in Kakariko!
If I remember correctly, the Zora’s Fountain snow effect is also true for Zora’s River and it also abates when the Water Temple has been beaten.
Never stop!
I guess you haven't noticed about the Soldier dying after Ganondorf left the Market.
I have been sending this many times.
Amazing, as always!
Bless you Link!
I like the Kakariko village part. Very cool
The intro sound design reminds me of the game 'a' on Switch
Loving these videos
I always, always wanted to be able to enter Hyrule Castle town on Epona, but I guess the N64 wouldn’t have been able to handle that graphics wise. Same with Kakariko Village because as a kid I hated leaving Epona outside by herself!
My Idea is, that the Intro Hyrule Field is an Alternative Time, because Child Link was Grabbing the Master Sword 😁🕰
About kakariko village, I won't lie; when I had a computer, working on my audio engineering skills, I mixed rain sounds with these "creepy" atmosphere, to get my sleep soundtrack. Hehehe
another amazing video congratulations!, I love your style of video especially the Zelda ones, I'm happy to know that my favorite game has so much content even though it's a 1998 game.🤗
How are we still discovering new things about this game even after 24 years! It’s remarkable!
Not only is the bridge intact, but the sky looks normal in that area as opposed to darkening a bit whenever Link goes near the bridge
7:30
Ha. Ice puns.
Ghosts being in kakariko wouldn’t be surprising, considering where they are
Maybe the intro cutscene map takes place in the future, after the events of Majora's mask
Oh I love the custom cam
Perhaps the opening portrays an alternate future? I never noticed that before crazy attention to detail
Is it weird to think that this game has better graphics and details than some new games lol especially the lighting and atmosphere the whole game has a perfect presentation.
The tree at 1:20 explains a Mandela effect I've been having where I would have sworn there was a tree there
Biggoron’s scale seems partially reduced when he is seen dancing in Lon Lon Ranch at the end of the game.
Maybe that's actually Medigoron?
@@Lego3400 nope, because they show Medigoron in a separate scene laying on his stomach like he usually does.
More!
This is truly the best game everade, after 24 years there still things in this game I'm learning.
Everade?
@@ls190v2 ever made