@VillainGamingFN No...just...no...? If I was to change the ending, it would mostly go as written in the manga. Where my changes would start would be when Matsuda pulls his gun and Nears bodyguards take aim at him shouting "don't move!" In my version Mikami, having finished his work and being startled by the sudden violence bolts. There's no need to hang around, Mikami's day couldn't get any better. He just glimpsed his god and doubtlessly pleased him. Meanwhile, back in the warehouse, everyone is frozen in the standoff. Light really has no desire to break it, he thinks he has just won. Near, actually holding the better hand thinks Mikami little more than a loose end that can be rounded up whenever. Oddly enough though, it is Light that breaks the silence. He just can't contain his laughter as he is counting down the seconds. Aizawa asks Light "what's so damn funny" and is answered with a monolog about the power of Kira and the hubris of humanity thinking it can stand against such a power. Everyone is clearly put off by such strange statements and Matsuda, probably not intentionally thinking out loud, voices "Light, are you Kira?" Light's internal counting reaches "38...39...", he flashes his biggest winning smile and goes to proclaim his victory but gets out little more than "I..." before clutching his chest in pain. The task force members surround Light, moving to catch him as he collapes to the ground. The only other smile in the room fades as Near implores Light to finish his declaration. The only thing on Light's mind though is 'did Mikami betray me...the bastard!', but then he and Near notice Ryuk chuckling. "Remember what I told you in the beginning Light..." Ryuk gleefully declares as he returns his notebook to it's place on his waist. As life leaves Light's body Near full of fear questions Ryuk "what do you mean Shinigami....what did you tell him!?" This outburst draws the attention of everyone else in the room, and Near, as if just remembering everyone else exists, goes to pull out the the real deathnote to explain. The only thing is, he seems to have misplaced it. Near turns his attention to where Ryuk was, but the only part left is his fading chuckles "humans sure are...interesting". The task force, fearful of sharing a fate with Light, demand answers and Near explains everything about finding and duplicating Mikami's deathnote. Near assures everyone that Mikami is a non threat and easy to find (being so meticulously rigid). Cut to some time later. Mikami was never found. The Kira case has gone cold. Numerous copycats have appeared, but well, clearly are copycats and most are easily captured and convicted.
@@VillainGamingFN With an army of well trained artists equipped with cutting edge tech and a budget that makes the US military equal part jealous and impotent.
I actually enjoyed Near and Mello. I thought it was cool that Light still had to battle L, even after he managed to kill him. The last two episodes of death note still give me chills. When Light finally admits to being kira, and just completely loses his sanity. It was the only time we saw light being completely transparent with everyone. Then Mikakmi just kills himself after failing to fulfill his “Gods” expectation.
I will give that the final scene are legitimately very good; not just technically, but they're the perfect cap to the anime in every way: drama, thematics, final moments for Light, everything!
I loved Near and Mello too! Near had a different but also similar charm to L and Mello reminded me of other hot tempered anime characters! Also in a way he technically was the one who brought Light down, even after death. Mello's ghost - Ladies and gentleman.. we got'em.
I hated it on my first watch, but after my second watch knowing how the show would end made the second part better for me and I also managed to enjoy it quite alot, the only thing that disappointed me was mello not getting enough screen time since I thought he was a really cool character
@@ProfessorViral they're not really perfect. They made a huge mistake by saying how Near and his squad managed to copy the entire notebook in just a single night while in reality it would take them so much more time to actually pull that move. However, I guess the anime had to be a little flawed for the entertainment.
@@duanedeal7139 no mikami called him God it was over then. No way back when makami killed takada it was over. But to be honest i like Mello not Near. I know more about Mello even if we see him less you get a big sense of who he is Near like toys thats it all i know of him. Atleast I know that Matt smoked and had a addiction to video games. I no nothing of near if there was more plot then i might have liked him. To me they did this in the manga to
@Dodurga Editz yeah i just need more Near make me like him. And he tries so much to be L he is not L and Mello doesn't do that. He is his own person not trying to be anything but the best. Near tries to be L trying to replace him. Instead of Near trying to copy L how about make him an independent character
Ryuk represent us, and even the creators. If ryuk hadn't been bored, he wouldnt have dropped the notebook, if we as the audience hadn't been bored, we wouldnt be looking for a new series to watch/read. If we hadn't been bored, the series would of never existed.
I actually love the second half but the only problem is that what Near did with Mikami's notebook is just impossible. No way Giovanni just casually broke into his safe, made a perfect copy of the notebook with tens of thousands of names in it and switched it all in less than a day. Mikami could have tested the notebook before coming to be sure, or use clippings, especially when he and Light foresaw Near's plan to switch his notebook with a fake. Also Mikami could have brought a gun just to be safe, like Higuchi did when he went out to try and get Matsuda's real hame. It's just doesn't make any sense.
Post credits do highlight the theory that Near used the Death Note to force Mikami to mess up to ensure he would win. It also fills in how the pen would be lethal as to where he jabbed himself and how fast he went down too imo.
nope. you confused the death notes. there were 3 until one of the shinigami's whose notebook ryuk stole took it back. that was the notebook light used primarily. meaning? the notebook that was actually used most of the time is gone. which leaves misa's notebook. which was barely used. which mikami ended up using but barely. knowing that its mulitple trained agents who are extremly skilled did it its belivable.
@@thephoenix4093 Never said it made things more powerful. I am more getting at Mikami knowing exactly where to jab himself to not only get between the ribs but also hit an artery on the first attempt is so absurd and unlikely that him going out that way comes across as s byproduct of the notebook instead of organically (people usually aim for their necks to boot for incidents like those, making it even more strange).
To be honest if you really think about it, ryuk was the *real* winner in the end. I’m not sure if they was really any winner but ryuk got what he wanted. His *entertainment.*
This is very true, I can't remember if I mentioned it here, but that is another point that makes the ending perfect; it never mattered anyway. Ryuk was just letting things happen because he was bored
Yeah, I remember after Light killed L Ryuk was questioning if things were going to get bored now (somewhat implying he was gonna kill Light and move on if e was going to get too bored now that he didn't have a rival) tho Light assured him things were going to get more interesting. @@ProfessorViral
@@VintageTechie no it actually is. He didnt know what to think anymore since it was the first time he was in this situation. That shows how he was lacking some evidences. If someone really watched death note especially L he wouldve know his developpment.
I don’t mind the second arc. I enjoy many aspects, but I do agree that it feels anticlimactic. That’s the point. With L dead, things come to a halt. Yes, Light achieves so much more in a quicker pace, but the hunt for Kira is dead on arrival. A sudden stop. The process of Near and Mello hunting Kira is so slow, but that’s because they have different approaches to L. Mello was quick, but once Light fought back, everything slowed back down as Mello had to recover and reorganize himself. Near was taking his time, because the goal was to stop Kira. If that meant more deaths, oh well. Better a few die than the world, or the world being enslaved. Neither were childish like L, as L describes himself. They didn’t want to play a game with Kira, so we didn’t get that fun cat and mouse game. L put so much at risk to win his own way. A prideful, childish way. He would rather humiliate Kira and bait him than play it smart. He didn’t give the FBI fake IDs. He told Kira directly many of his plans. He told Light that Misa was arrested, then left without arresting him right then and there. He even hoped that Light had a plan to prove himself innocent, questioning why the deaths didn’t continue once Light had himself arrested. He didn’t want to win immediately, he wanted a show about it. Little did he know. Near, despite being a child, didn’t care for any of that. The game was simple. Win. It doesn’t have to be exciting. It doesn’t have to be dramatic. A simple, fair win. That is why killing both Kira and X Kira wouldn’t suffice. He has to prove the evidence prior to the execution, and nothing more. No showboating. Even as extreme as Mello was, he didn’t care for drama, either. He wanted to win fast, only his approach was through far more selfish and criminal acts. He probably would have killed Light if given the chance, without needing to prove his theories that the second L is Kira. It’s actually too bad Mello wasn’t a bigger part of the second arc. It doesn’t help that the second arc was rushed in the anime, even the first arc skipped some contexts. Either way, the second arc isn’t terrible, just mostly slow thus dull. That final episode is always pleasant, though, with a melancholy conclusion. That’s why I keep binging it. It will never end if I start from the beginning again.
Good analysis, but there's one incorrect sentiment; L wasn't interested in directly making a fool out of Kira and Near isn't more mature than L. They both had the same general strategy of playing a battle of pride while attempting to find indisputable evidence of Kira's identity and crimes to secure an absolute victory against him, even if it meant taking a long time, resulting in more victims of Kira and more opportunities for Kira to kill them. The nature of the victory L aimed for would've been enough for him to indirectly make a fool out of Kira, which is clear when observing Near's victory. Near wasn't directly mocking Light, he was just telling him the facts, while the nature of Light's absolute loss was what hurt his feelings the most. Near succeeded because, on top of having the benefit of being the second genius person to attempt to defeat Kira instead of the first, and on top of the benefit of having Mello also causing problems for Kira, Near was more cautious and painstaking than L, which made it practically impossible for Light to even reach him in a way that could benefit him unless he did the galaxy-brain plan that he did, which ended up failing because it relied on people who aren't him acting exactly as planned, meanwhile Near had his own galaxy-brain planning that adapted to his discoveries. L failed because, despite having more experience than both Near and Light, the Death Note was completely new at the time, and he was more willing to make sudden high risk-return actions to make discoveries, which benefited him, but prevented him from meticulously planning everything from start to finish and editing his plan according to discoveries, which allowed Light to have favorable opportunities. In a narrative perspective, one of the attributes of L that Mello embodied was his bold actions and sudden behavior, while one of the attributes of L that Near embodied was his intelligence and caution. As you know, L and Mello both died in the end but required Light to think fast, while Near, who strictly thinks before acting, ended up surviving and majorly contributing to defeating Light at his own game. This implies that, L had the correct idea in mind for defeating Light, but a major reason why L lost was due to the fact that he's only one person, and at the time was the only person who could both directly and indirectly challenge Light at his level. Near and Mello being two different people who individually demonstrated certain capabilities that L had that could challenge Light came with the major benefit of Near and Mello being able to separately apply those capabilities against Light, which led to Light's defeat.
"It was made with no deep meanings relating to religion, but as the series went on, those meanings sort of entered the series themselves." -One of The Death Note Creators
Whether you love or hate Near, he had a point: Light isn’t a god or the creator of a new world, he’s a serial killer who thinks he’s hot shit. And Light’s downfall is satisfying entirely because he’s a modern Icarus who metaphorically flew too close to the sun and violently drowns in his own hubris. He thinks he’s a suave master of 4D Chess but literally gets outsmarted by a kid, then spills his spaghetti and dies.
Yep, he was so up his own ass he didn't think he could lose. I love that his habit of gloating before the kill is what fully seals the deal. They had speculation; he gave them the confession
As if the writers didn't spoon-feed another bland child prodigy character with more plot armor and leaps of logic than L had in the first season, by a vast margin. The near arc was trash, and near as a character is held together by ex machinas.
@@cyberpunk-2O77 In a narrative perspective, Near and Mello are supposed to be caricatures of certain attributes of L, and L had some childish traits, therefore Near and Mello had to narratively inherit those traits. This was to make Near and Mello give off a similar mood as L while still being different than him, and while being ultimately inferior to him individually yet superior to him combined, which was even highlighted by actual dialogue in the series. Near is indeed an example of the "child" prodigy character archetype, but due to his purpose in relation to L, he's not a bland example. Near's way of thinking wasn't how you describe. During the time-skip, he had thoroughly researched the Kira case off-screen so he could be caught up with a lot of information so he could have a sufficient reason to deduce that Light was Kira, because despite starting late, he needed to pose a threat to Light. This was similar to L in that, for ambiguous off-screen reasons, he deduced that the members of the Kira investigation team outside of the Yagami family weren't secretly Kira, in a narrative perspective for the sole purpose of making the focus of the story primarily being Light VS L. In a narrative perspective of what concerns Near, he was finishing what L had started, so for the sake of preventing redundancy, a lot of Near's reasoning wasn't shown. As for Near discovering the role of Teru Mikami, it seemed like divination in the anime series, but that's because the anime series cut out a lot of the internal dialogue of characters other than Light that was present in the manga series, and this scene was an occurrence of that. With the context of the manga series, it can be inferred that the anime series depicts the evidence and footage spinning around Near as he looked at all of them with superhuman efficiency to figure out that Mikami was Light's helper. Like I wrote before, Near is supposed to be a caricature of L. L was a genius, not an esper.
@@justjames4 the ending is physically impossible to I think it's safe to assume Light actually won. Like the problems with the ending have been pointed out already, so you can't possibly claim Near won unless you accept that he used magic to do so.
I get what you're saying. And much like that game of tennis they played, the dynamic in Light's roles in the 1st and 2nd half are like you see in sports all the time. At the start, the season just started Light is the challenger going for the title (you could say L's a challenger too in terms of the case like two teams trying to win the finals, but L's more so the title holder, world champion, in fact, given his rep as a detective). Challenger Light made it to his title match and won (by TKO I guess but still won😂). Light's now world champion. Who does he topple nex- oh wait, he's the world champ. He's already on top and far from the underdog. Can't go higher than that. You can only do 3 things now. Spread your influence. Bask in your influence. And play defense, cuz you gain no more status winning, but you'll fall from glory if the title challenger beats you. Light playing challenger as the winner makes little sense. And Challengers Near and Mello come through. Mello didn't win his challenge but he definitely put the world champ on the ropes. And Near saw flaws and openings from Mello's fight that nobody else did (cuz it's not like it was pay-per-view. Nobody who saw Light's fight as a challenger is alive or has loose lips.) Now Near's match for the title comes. Light is cocky but Near's research and reads ends with a first round KO to the world champ... and on top of that, the Death Note's confirmed link to Light is the breaking news that the champ used performance enhancing drugs to get through all his fights too. It's all downhill from there. Light's career is dead.
I would have never thought to put it that way, but that's actually a very accurate way to describe things! Hits the points in a quite easily understandable way, and gives even more sense as to why Light lost, as the "defending champ"
Light's death is perfect for a character like him, but the manga is better, the anime romanticizes him, picturing him like a "poor boy" that's about to die, he sees a version of himself before he picked the death note, maybe feeling regret or missing those innocent times and the last thing he sees is the ghost of L, the only person he consired his equal. In the manga Light's death is raw and humilliating and exactly what he deserved, he doesn't get to run away, Ryuk appears and Light thinks Ryuk is going to save him, but Ryuk becomes very demonic while showing Light he wrote his name in his death note, Light screams, curses and cries, while Ryuk laughs, watching him die, he told him he would kill him when things got boring and yeah, he was right, Light became so arrogant and stupid with the years, if Ryuk saved him at that moment, then there would not be anyone else to stop Light, no more action or drama, just a guy writing names all too confortable at the top of the world, and that's boring to watch
This perspective certainly makes me feel better about the weaker half of the series. Light's god complex made him less hands on and his over reliance on others to do the work for him lead to slip ups.
@@ProfessorViral Light may have been a genius academically but even before he became Kira he was a moron in pretty much every other area of his life, hell that misanthropy and God Complex Kira exhibited Light demonstrated long before he ever found the Death Note or met Ryuk! Light was a narcissistic psychopath and such individuals are usually their own worst enemy even though they don`t recognize that fact until it`s far too late.(In The Manga, Light`s last thought was "I don`t want to die.", right up to the end Light/Kira only thought about himself, not anybody else he`d killed, he always had an excuse, always had an alibi,always had a justification) so I personally thought that the fact that such a delusional God-complexed loser was defeated not by the master detective he mistakenly viewed as his natural enemy but rather by two more self-aware teen sociopaths trained by said detective(Who,in The Manga, even point out that psychologically and philosophically they are not so different from Light) was fitting!It also went to show how untenable Light/Kira`s dream of a crime-free utopia truly was. And for all of ya`ll who defend Light, as Near said using the notebook once or twice or even three times would have been understandable but you yielded to the power of the shinigami and the notebook and have confused yourself with a god,in the end you`re just a crazy serial killer.Nothing more,nothing less."
Something that bothered me about the final arc was how L's findings were never passed on to his successors. Yet Mello and Near though halves of a whole, through their own experiments and deductions, pick up clues that took L much longer to discover. It felt cheaper and more contrived. I know they had limited time, but it would have felt more feasible if they had been able to pick up off of where L left off, rather than both starting from square one and getting to the same conclusion as L much more quickly.
Near gathered evidence concerning the Kira case for three years before he replaced L, but most likely for the sake of avoiding redundancy, this was only stated instead of demonstrated. Mello figured out that Kira had connections to the NPA because he was even more extremely hands-on with his strategies than L was, and the SPK managed to figure out what Mello was doing, so they figured out that Light was Kira in not a long time thanks to Near's genius intelligence. I didn't find that L took a very long time to deem Light as a primary suspect, so Near reaching this conclusion in not a very long time too didn't seem odd to me.
@@justjames4actually it was Ls investigation that helped near and mello since they know what happened to higuchi and how the notebook kills it was mainly L who gave it all away now it was just near and mello to finish the job that’s how it looks like in the manga while in the anime it just shoves it right in ur face
I really love the last arc of Death Note because of its themes. For me, the show wasn't all about Kira Vs L. It was about so much more. I wasn't In love with L and because of that I didn't really mind that much when he lett. Watching how the world changed and how Kira was slowly taking control was fascinating. Mikami and Takada were great. But most importantly for me, it was the nihilistic aura surrounding the show at the beginning. L gave the series a lot of humor, but at the end of the day Death Note its all about one thing: Death. And how Death its equal. When we die we all go to "Nothingness" and that aura was recovered in the last arc.
I completely agree on that last point; I think the final moments of the anime were legitimately perfect due to that. It could never have ended any other way. And, I probably could appreciate Mikami and Takada more along the lines of Kira's slow grip tightening over the world, but I simply don't think they were strong characters. Maybe that's the point; they're weak because Light has that much influence and a god-like status. But, I didn't enjoy when they were on screen despite that. I think most of the intrigue was in watching L and Light battle it out, while the darkness and contemplation crept in the background. The focus shifted the other way in the final arc, and while I think it's very technically perfect, I have to stand by believing it to be the "worse" arc of the anime. But, thank you for the comment, I enjoy seeing great discussion down here, it means I'm doing something right, and chatting with everyone is one of the best parts of it! : D
It took me a few watches as well to look past what I immediately disliked and appreciate what was there. I still don't quite enjoy it I guess, but I do like some of what it did
I think if he had gotten more time, or a better lead up he'd be likeable. L developed into someone unique and interesting, Near feels like a shallow attempt to do it again
Just like in the tennis match, L in a lot of ways HELPED Light. Light was given constant pressure, and had to work his ass off. His goals grew, his planning and thinking capacity shifted, in a 5 years later world where L survives, it's possible that Light is still his effective, top of his game self. Without evolutionary pressure, there is no way to be prepared for new challenges. It fits the theme perfectly, Light is a bonifide genius, at his original level, he could have absolutely kept going after L died. His motivation to grow was from his ego though, and reaching that point made him complacent. His loss began the moment he killed L and started claiming that "he won and there was no one in his way". Absolutely stupid. To think you can influence a planet and ever not have to watch your back. I think a lot of celebrities are like this too, talking a big game and actually working extremely hard, but once they reach their peak, they end up falling off and delving into scandal. I have a friend who is extremely talented with this mindset. He already talks about how good it's going to be AFTER he is famous. The whole goal for these types is to meet the needs of their ego, which is amazingly motivating until it's fulfilled. Lights plan was to put himself on the pedestal, but thinking about how to keep himself there does nothing for his complex. He had proven himself already, even entertaining that he could need to protect himself would feel for him like he is diminishing himself. Near's timing was perfect. He entered the fray 5 years after Light had fully accepted his throne. Light no longer had to be paranoid, or careful. And just like the most prolific real life serial killers, often having the intelligence to get away with it doesn't mean the discipline necessary to keep doing so will be there as well. Light should have watched Dexter and taken notes. Lmfao
I love the second half of the series, yes I do enjoy the first half more but I think the second half is perfect as well. Its a fitting continuation for everything that has happened, you cant expect it to be like the first half because the first half was about Light growing and starting his goals, doing anything for it because he knows if he fails their will never be a chance again. In the second half we see the result, the entire world has been changed and we see how it effects everyone, people who do believe and do not believe. You can see the sheer desire to be on top and to have complete dominance and doing whatever it takes with mello. You can see the already achieved power and that holder of power making many movies to ensure their power is protected, no matter how cruel, within Light. And you see the one who sits back and lets everything unfold while also being apart of the cause, and secretly being the one to inforce the moves and not have themself or his forces he the downfall of their opponet, but the opponet themself. So much more I could get into, thank you again for making this video because people are seeming to appreciate it a bit more now.
people always say L was smarter than light because he didnt have knowledge of the deathnote for a portion of the series. However people always forget that L had entire governments on his side, and taskforces, and equipment. If L was working alone just as light was, he wouldnt have been able to do the broadcast to figure out lights region.
I really appreciate this video. It explains my conflicted thoughts perfectly. I find the arc to be thematically brilliant, but also less thrilling than the rest of the series
Yeah, it is a very conflicting final section of the series. It sucks that the best way to continue the themes had to be so much less engaging. Honestly, I'd like to see what it would have been like with a full season of episodes, like the first arc
Light and L are 2 sides of the same coin. It shows how both are acting exactly opposite. Light continuously sacrifices everyone because he views himself a everyone's superior. Light exploited Misa and Takada among many others, planning to kill all of them in the end. L knew full well he will die, but since he discovered the Death Note, he knew that Near's victory would be an easy win. The supernatural Death Note was the only thing that kept Light's ideology alive. His arrogance has knocked him off his feet numerous times; the Cards Test, the Cell Phone scene. Light lost completely, but then those Shinigami Eyes and memory erasing also memory restoration (when he touched Death Note again) showed up in the story. When Near sits with L's mask on, it's symbolism that all Near and Mello did was actually L's doing. L and Near complimented the actions off their team members, while Light perpetually mocked everyone apart from himself, repeatedly slipping.
Light got cocky, corrupted mentally and thought of himself as a god rather than someone serving justice. If Near was to die off Light would eventually become very evil
I'd agree. He always used those around him, but it amped up in the later arc. The world, and everyone in it, simply became his to use and then throw away
I liked Near and Mello's part better (even though L is my favorite as a character) because in that part everyone already was used to all the supernatural stuff that L had to prove. I feel like in part 1 it was too easy for Light.
Narratively and thematically speaking, Near was the perfect character to defeat Light. He didn't view him in the same light L did, there wasn't some great rivalry in the name of justice. Light was a killer, and Near is a detective. That's all there is to it. It's a shame it got fumbled so bad, though.
@@notjeff7833 No amount of intellect is allowing someone to copy someone's hand writing perfectly and copying pages and pages of names overnight, it was literally just physically impossible for nears agent to do that let alone break into the bank vault to obtain the notebook.
@@OWmyDragonballz it was already explained via manga that: they didn't need to make a perfect copy. Near had written mikami's name into the real death note so mikami doesn't test the death note before arriving. This is why mikami suspiciously died after 12 days and near was quick to burn the death notes. There is also a very detailed explanation on r/deathnote reguarding how rester and gevanni only had to copy 16 pages worth of names. Furthermore, gevanni has 10/10 counterfeit skills in volume 13 graph. Enough to fool the npa from a distance. In volume 7; Larry conners, despite being an spk member, showed his fbi id to soichiro which means despite working for spk, you still retain your previous job's status (also proven by lidner and rester being allowed to continue their previous jobs after the kira case) gevanni can use his interpol status to either bluff his way in or do it legally stating he is investigating said person (depending on what laws were being enacted in Japan) near also said that it was an old fashioned local bank so getting past security shouldn't be a problem or he can just bribe the employees. There are several yt videos from 10 years ago where people have successfully lockpicked vaults used in banks at the time which means it is more than possible.
I once did a reddit post on how many episodes each manga got: Manga 1 (Pages: 175) Episodes: 4 Pretty much perfect shot for shot adaptation. 4 episodes for one manga is perfect. Manga 2 (Pages: 179) Episodes: a bit less then 4. The end of episode episode 8 is the start of manga 3. Manga 3 (Pages: 175) Episodes: 3 Manga 4 (Pages: 183) Episodes: 5 and a half. Misa gets introduced and captured at the end. Manga 5 (Pages: 177) Episodes: A bit more then 3 episode 20 is the start of number 6. Manga 6 (Pages: 185) Episodes: 4 episodes Manga 7 (Pages: 191) Episodes: 2 and a half episode (In the middle of that one L dies) Manga 8 (Pages: 179) Episodes: 2 and a half episode Manga 9 (Pages: 173) Episodes: 2 Manga 10 (Pages: 169) Episodes: 2 Manga 11 (Pages: 189) Episodes: 2 and a half Manga 12 (Pages: 189) Episodes 2 and a half There are the numbers and they add up almost perfectly. From 4-5 episodes per manga, to 2-2/5 per manga after L's death. Uff.
I actually already enjoyed Near & Mello's arc in the anime although definitely not as much as L, but I recently read the manga and it's so much better, they really did them so dirty in the anime... I actually loved the 2nd half of the series, I wish it was longer because I personally really enjoyed Near and Mello's characters.
I’m happy someone is saying this, cause I don’t understand why people romanticize Light. Like he’s smart and a good character, but he’s not an admiral character. he’s an egomaniac mass murderer who thinks he has the god given right to kill others. I was happy he lost
I LOVED how you pointed out Kira using himself to further advance across the board. Almost as if "Kira" took advantage of a separate entity from himself.
I'm not quite to the end, but it sounds like a master class in absurdism. Light took it so seriously, desperate to be relevant and prominent in the world, only to be discarded and forgotten
Except he spread justice in the world to the point there was a whole fu cling cults worshipping him and waiting for his return I don’t know how exactly he was forgotten
I found the later episodes enjoyable because of the great aspects highlighted in this video, plus it still maintained its fantastic way of setting the mood and maintained its animation that I like. I find a story excellent when it's written very skillfully. It was still better when L was alive of course, but I didn't even have a problem with Near replacing him. He's a good successor to L, even though he's not a perfect replacement. He still has the same stoical eccentric genius vibe in his own way. Mostly from a distance, he was finishing what L started, which is why he had a simpler time than L when investigating Light. The fact that Death Note had the courage to let L die made the finale even more suspenseful, since it established that it's willing to let important characters die if it makes sense. Anyway, the video is a good analysis of the good aspects of Death Note's later episodes. 👍
People can't be happy without L, can they? "It's bsc perfectly writen, everything makes sense, all characters are new and unqiue and it picks up all the themes and developments from the first half perfectly.. but it was bad" like what do you wan lmao
There's a reason I use "technically" here. Everything they did felt like the perfect way for it to end, however, they didn't have the time to develop the new characters, or make Lights transition feel more natural. It's disjointed. If Mellow and Near had more to their character then "L but slightly different," I would like it. But they never became anything more. I love L because we're slowly introduced to him and he's a unique character. Mellow and Near aren't
@@ProfessorViral I want to say that the manga is almost as long as the first half. A comment that I left half a year ago shows how much was cut out of the manga from the second half. My math concludes that 10 EPIOSDES WORTH OF CONTENT IS MISSING. In those 10 episodes: Mello gets a full new arc where he does things like threaten the president with a third world war, Light shows more cracks early on, Near explains his views on power and L more, Near shows more emotion, Mello and Near have a scene more together, the ending is different and there is a epiloge that plays one year after Light's death. Hell, NEAR HAS MORE SCREENTIME WHERE WE SEE HIM THAN L IN THE MANGA. But I guess we judge the anime on it's own so lets do that: Near and Mello are also without the manga content their own characters and far different from L. Even if I strip all the things the manga adds away, they still hold their own. Mello: Do I have to explain this? L and Mello have in common: Both have a massive ego and want to be the best and both are highly intelligent. Mello also has anger issues, is more open about his hate, is more willing to do with things that are roughless and immoral and Mello has a character development where he learns to give up his ego to proof himself as worthy and intelligent. While Mello was willing to give the "final words to Near" and win together with him, L died in Light's arm after lieing to his team several times with his last thoughts being "Light.. is kira.. I was right.. but...." L just cared about being right and being the best. Mello too, but he was able to get past his ego and proofed himself with that. Mello is not only a unquie character who shakes the story up in ways that L never could, but also plays into the theme of giving up power and ego. Near: With Near I have to go a little into the manga. Near never had the problem of ego in the first place. Near was a litte sassy (especailly in the manga where he shows more emotion), but he was never arrogant or driven by ego. He was ready to work together with Mello from the start, while L only had Wateri for years and viewd "working with others as having lost." L hates to admit to being wrong. He wished that Light is Kira, he lied to Aizawa to see who he would chose, he wanted to be the smartest in the room and be the best detective. Near openly says "If we make a mistake we just say sorry." and Near also admits that nor he or Mello are as great as L or Light in terms of intelligence. Near being able to admit to being wrong, is even shown really cleverly. In the scene where he throws the darts and miss over and over again, he dosen't show anykind of saddness or shame. He just throws the next one, until he hits bullseye. We even get a fastcut to Light, while Near throws are dart, making it look like he aims at Light and he is his target. While L will only give it one shot and then try to justify why his shot was perfect, Near will throw as many as he needs and is able to say when his shots weren't correct. All Near cares about is solving the puzzle and respecting L. Near also dosen't plan on making Kira's death public, something that L very likely would of done. He also says at the end of the manga "I am no different from you Light. I believe in what I think is right, and believe that to be rightoues." he also has a speech about even if god existed his morals wouldn't be moral just because he is god and that Near would look at them for himself. Near knows that he isn't justice and isn't specail, he even goes as far as putting himself on the same level as Light in that, even if Near finds him pathetic. L thought of himself as justice, the smartest and thought that he is better than Light. There is also the fact that Near has no respect for Light at all, while L at least respected his intelligence. Near isn't as active as Light, L and Mello and isn't nearly (hehe) as smart as Light or L but his lack of ego is his biggest strengh and what makes him unquie. Also at the end of the manga, Matsuda has the theory, that Near KILLED MIKAMI with the Death Note. He wrote in it, that he would take the fake notebook Near made, write everyones name down except Light's and then die later to insure that his plan works. Then he burns the evidence later. If that theory is true is up to the reader. Did Near do it? Is it in his character? He did say in the manga that he can understand people who would use it once or twice for personal gain. Did he just say that to justify himself or was he geniuent? Every other who used the notebook in the show died, even L who wanted someone else to use it. Near would be the only one to get off the hook in the whole story for using the notebook. This could reflect the idea of the winner having the last word and being able to twist the facts to look as justice and right. Or maybe the theory isn't true and Near is truely against using the notebook and wasn't prideful till the end. This whole theory that the manga itself presends adds a whole new layer to Near's character and to the themes of the show. Near is also more honest about his thoughts and is more sassy, smiling a lot and being more playful with the Taskfroce than L in his own way. Once again, stuff that L wasn't able to do. I am not saying that L was a bad character, quite the opposite, he is my second favorit after Near. But saying that Near and Mello aren't unquie is just dishonest and unfair to the characters, even if we only take the anime scenes and not the roughly 10 extra episodes of manga. Not to mention their OST slaps. Also Light's character change was "too sudden?" If we once again ignore all the manga scenes that go more in depth about Light and his mental state, between the first half and the second are SIX YEARS. At the end of the first we see Light thinking "I am god, I am justice." 6 YEARS later, where he rules the world, after he won against the smartest man on the planet and he is now power hungrier than ever, thinks he can't be beaten and gets careless because of that and buys into his own lies more than even before. Sounds pretty believable to me. And again, this is without some manga scenes that show more cracks in Light's perfect mask before the ending. Add all of what I just said to everything you said in the video and I would say we have A VERY solid second half. In my opinion the best part of the story, but since both parts are amazing, I can't blame anyone for liking the first more. Just please don't make the second part look bad. It's really great. And there is so much more I could talk about like: the great mindgames where characters outsmart each other (the whole ending plan from both sides, Near's money escape, everything Mello does with the notebook, Near and Mello getting information out Moggi, all of Near's little traps in talking, etc.) infact the second half has even more planning than the first because we have 3 people fighting against each other instead of 2. And all the side character that get more developed, I could go on. In conclusion: While I would still STRONGLY suggest you give the manga a read because it's the best version of the story (even if you miss out on all the great animation, music and voice acting) and because everything after L's death is in my opinion the strongest part of the show. For it's use of themes, the clever mindgames, the change of power and for having Near (who I personally like more than L but that's 100% subjective). You may dislike the second half for whatever reason. You may even think it's the worst of the worst. But by god, Near and Mello aren't "L clones" and the second half has great writing. If it's worse or better than the first is up to the viewer/reader, I would say that objectively they are pretty even but subjectively I go with the second. Thanks for reading my rant-
I'd probably like him more with a longer arc. But, I do like that he's more direct and confident with Light. It's like Light failed against someone more like himself
I watched this show after reading the manga. I gotta say that the manga's version of the Near and Mello stories was far more interesting and well written. The anime definitely suffered from the lack of episodes needed to bring the whole thing to life. Anyway. When I watched the anime, I invited my father to watch it with me, because we enjoy sharing series with each other. My Dad actually thought that the Near and Mello arc was more interesting than the stuff with L, with him saying that turning the conflict into a three-way battle was more entertaining for him. Just an interesting perspective, I thought.
The L half had 25 episodes to cover essentially the first 50 chapters. The Near/Mello half had 12 episodes to cover the last 50 chapters. The second half got screwed by pacing and notable story cuts.
Ok I just watched it, all 37 episodes, and I’ve concluded that Light shouldn’t have lost. He clearly knew everyone in the room’s names besides Near. Especially Hal Lidner. He did the location reveal trick with Mello’s men where his dad died, why couldn’t he do the same with her and Near’s location. Even after they moved locations. Also Gevanni had to have completely copied a couple years of names perfectly character by character in Japanese in one day despite being from America to make a perfect replica of the death note. Even tho Makumi checked it under a literal microscope every day. Also the reasoning behind why Near even suspected Makumi as “X-Kira” was so thin, they brushed over it so quickly. Also if all Makumi had to do is look into the room he could’ve used to the countless holes all over the place instead of peaking from the door. After L died it seems like the whole thing was over, light had won. Then near and mello were introduced and everything was rushed. I do like the arcs of Matsuda and Aizawa tho they weren’t bad.
I've always been fascinated by the geniuses presented in the series, whether they be Light, Kira, L, Near, Mello, for they had all one thing in common; their pride in themselves that wants to win. The one thing that set Light/Kira apart from the rest is simply, that he thought more of himself than what he actually was. The others had a huge pride and ego within them but at least they humble themselves to the point of admitting being humans with absurdly high IQ, nothing more nothing less. Light/Kira couldn't be content with that and that was his pride before his humiliating fall, humbled mercilessly by both humans and a godly being, Ryuk. That was the satisfying part of the ending; Disliking Near based on his fairly inactive personality doesn't take away the fact that, cooperating with Mello, could rightfully, succinctly and concisely, humble Light to such a defeat that Ryuk considered it over by his own, subjective opinion of the matter translated as him ending Light's life as he always intended to do anyway.
I honestly wonder how you feel about Beyond Birthday and his grudge against L. BB definitely would of beat L if it wasn’t for his pride making his lead Naomi Misora during the entire case
It's a message and tale old as humanity itself; if you don't admit humility by your own accord and for yourself, everything around will whether you wanted it or not. Call it fate, destiny or Godhand, it is bound to happen with huge egos that don't admit basic boundaries.
@@sdgkh09 which makes Near’s battle more interesting. L didn’t care abt “justice” as much as he would like you to believe. He viewed his battle against light as a game, a “battle of pride”. (I forgot which character said this quote in the manga.) near didn’t care abt that, he viewed light like the murderer he his, and wanted to take him down.
@@sdgkh09 also this may be off topic but if you’re referring to the Godhand from berserk, they are a just a bunch of jerks who like hurting ppl. Only reason the godhand and the idea of evil exist is because of people’s subconscious and desire to find out why evil exists. Like they don’t care abt pride, they’re just some punks who literally go around sending ppl to hell just for fun
I agree that it is a battle of pride; who wins over the other? Not conceding to the other results in the winner keeping their pride, but becoming too prideful like Light results in fall due to pride that never was humbled honestly within themselves. L, N, M and, to some extent, BB all admitted their limitation and kept their humble pride even through defeat (like BB), for L hated that he didn't managed to make BB admit that L was right. L didn't care about winning over statistically over BB but it mattered a lot for L to make BB admit that L was right. Keeping pride and not losing face is important to geniuses, and losing face through being caught by their haughty pride is worse than winning through dirty tactics by those geniuses. Being humble enough to admit this hig end pride is what made all other than Light win, and not ever admitting human limitation is what makes pride fall to the doom of reputation and self-respect of the too prideful. There is a difference between admitting humble limitation of being a man despite genius level of pride and not wanting and not acting on admitting the human limitation of pride.
Btw L also knew light was Kira, he gave himself away when light said that he was being investigated by the fbi, L never told him he was suspected. Just a random fun fact
I really wish that light didn’t show his piece of the notebook in his watch he could have memorized nears name and killed him in several hours after confined then he could escape and force a member who knows where the death note is or Nate you control him and then you get your cops name and force him to let you go then you become a fugitive and near gives you the notebook you then get plastic surgery burn the records and light wins
Although that could have happened, I think its fitting that he only escapes because of Mikami doing something he didn't expect, which fits with how they got in that situation in the first place
I personally found it a lot less engaging, but I think I had that idea in my head from others before watching it. I still feel it's true, but I do like it more thematically
L did all the work all along and revealed the biggest part of the mysteries. Near had just to profit of that work and bring the final evidencies to the case. However, the risk was high for both of them and in a certain way they were both brave.
Light lost cuz the writer wanted him to loose. How did Giovanni wrote over 300k names perfectly and in japanese when his native language is English. He also break in the bank and stole the death note with no alarm, no one noticing and that same night he also wrote perfectly every SINGLE thing perfectly 🤡 Makes no sense specially when you know Light would always have a very easy second plan of kira #3 having an extra page in his pocket or watch like him The ending didn't make sense because the writer was tired and the real ending was L losing and Light winning, he was just force to continue and wabted to end it has soon has he could
Light challenged L to face him head on, and Light stayed involved in L’s movements until the moment. If Light had found a way to keep Near nearer, he could have perhaps found a way to defeat him. Instead he kept him at a distance, and that allowed Near to orchestrate their meeting only when he was absolutely prepared to prove Light was Kira, without fail.
The biggest plot hole in this theorem is that Near's guy, forgot his name, somehow managed to break into the bank, break into Mikami's safe, get out without setting off any alarms, perfectly recreated the Deathnote (which Mikami checks for tampering every day UNDER A MICROSCOPE) with every name written by Mikami (which is in the hundreds of thousands) perfectly, break back into the bank before they opened to place the copy back, all under 18 hours...yeah, that's physically impossible
But L has a shit ton of money from various ventures, and there's nothing stopping him from hiring a team that's completely unrelated to them and asking them fo build an office building or something, maybe even paying them extra if they finish it as soon as possible@@ProfessorViral
But L has a shit ton of money from various ventures, and there's nothing stopping him from hiring a team that's completely unrelated to them and asking them fo build an office building or something, maybe even paying them extra if they finish it as soon as possible@@ProfessorViral
In the beginning, I was cheering for Light, but then he became a straight-up villain killing innocent civilians, and then I was hoping for his downfall. Strangely enough, there was a part of me that wanted him to win and survive.
@@ProfessorViralthe dude legit killed “Lind L. Taylor” in ep2 just cuz the guy called Light evil. And yet ppl still sympathize with him like Walter White fans
The more I read the manga the more Near became my favorite character. It could be because I much prefer the manga ending than the anime ending that practically deifies Light.
Kind of reminds me of the first half of Steins;Gate in a way. If you haven’t watched it, it starts really slowly, but despite being “worse” it is completely necessary for the rest of the show to hit as hard as it does. This is just the same thing but flipped.
During the whole time frame of mikamis stalker following him Mikami was using a fake notebook and takada was the one actually killing To make it look like mikami was using the real notebook. Mello kidnaps takada. Mikami out of greed got scared and went to where the real death note was hiding so he could kill takada just in case she doesnt give any information. When he went to where the real death note was his stalker was following him and realized that its odd why mikimi was going to the bank. (Because he only goes to the bank on tuesdays or some shit) so the stalker went to his bank deposit and found the death note and saw that takadas name was written. So they figured out mikami was using a fake notebook. And the real one was in the bank deposit. And as you saw in the show light just used his hidden death note sheet to kill takada as well. I actually dont know who wrote her name first. Mikami thought light couldnt take care of takada so he went to kill her. And light also went to kill her.
@All Rounder Subham The last episode when Near shows the fake notebook they took from mikami to show everyone the real names to prove whoever's name isn't written is Kira. Light just read the notebook when Near showed everyone.
I don’t enjoy the near arc as much as the L arc, but Light had to die. There was no other proper way to end it except maybe to apprehend him, but then that would’ve been anticlimactic.
He'd also gone so far off the rails he would only accept death. They tried to take him in, but he fought back even when it was impossible to change the situation
Near arc = checker's game with near cheating to win. L arc = 3d chess with magic spells. You see each move just before it happens not 4 moves in advance. THIS is the L/near difference. L used linear and sacrifice tactics to bring Kira down (whom victory ultimately defeated) L put his life on the line over and over again. He knew his man, he wanted proof. To gain proof he needed truth. With Kira putting fake rules into his death note L made a fatal error by taking it as his truth. Three shinigami we used to achieve the win. The one who save Mia, Ryuk who was used, and Rem who was manipulated into saving Mia again sacrificing herself to kill Watari and L. Had Ryuk not been accommodating to Kira he would have been caught long before L revealed himself.
Kira defeated L fair and square TAke in consideration that Kira made ama geniuse unbelievable plan that worked even tough he lost his memories And he was working infront of L the whole time Kira has deceived L and the whole police and neutralized the FBI all without even accepting the shinigami eyes deal You people need to stop ass-kissing L and admit the truth as it is
@@user-ls7pt2fd9l I'm not discounting Kira's genius, L figured him out but was tricked by Ryuk putting fake rules in the death note. L outmanuvered him, captured him and his lieutenant Mia, imprisoned them, and forced light to relinquish the note. Kira accounted for his capture and planned it out, using Rem to kill both L and Watari. Kira won this battle but ultimately lost because of 2 taunts and this victory. Taunt 1, the killing of Taylor on local TV. 2. His experimenting on modes of death with the note revealing the shinigami as real. Now onto N and M, these 2 worked as a team to bring him down. The 2 years between them put Kira into a sense of........ absolute control of everything, he had defeated L, Watari, and Rem in one move! He could do ANYTHING!!! N and M moved around the board testing Kira. Ultimately M sacrificed himself to bit by bit tear down all but Mia as allies to Kira. Those two years he became too attached to Mia and refused to sacrifice her, instead turning to a man that in his arrogance left the death note exposed enough to be swapped out revealing Light as Kira. Kira,L,M,N are to a one genius level intellects. L had his man, he caught him fair and square. Kira then used an external entity REM to bust free of the lock. Last successors M and N played off each other, one dying to put Kira in checkmate.
@@brianjohnson5272 Your words are repetitive my bro And we are talking subjectively about Kira and L here not n And m Again Kira outsmarted and killed L fair and square L didn’t know shit about Kira He only doubts him cause he clearly saw how much of geniuse he is and it is probably the first time in his life he sees someone on the same level as him If L really figured out light is Kira he would have never let him go out on any circumstance even after light looses his memory on purpose to deceive him Kira had orchestrated the perfect plan to take down L And he did that without sacrificing anything Except rem I mean how much better does it get ? Killing fake L was a plot needed kill The author had to make this move to hook us to the story and to start the rivalry between Kira and L
Someone said the beauty of near was that he was similar to light when light was at his smartest just not evil. Search a video called “the boy who cornered god”. Also both L and Light lost to someone who was 17 😅
8:38 Light became stupid and sloppy because the author ran out of ideas, it was all just done because people feel you can't even let the "villain" win. They could've been a better way of ending this masterpiece
Bring in Near and Mello, bring back Naomi Misora rather than killing her right away. Let her be the final keypiece that Light does not calculate. Copying a fake note name by name in a single night all the while you are able TO ACCESS A FUCKING BANK SAFETY DEPOSIT. In a week it would have been hard. I love the (was it second?) Japanese live action adaption where L writes his own name to defeat Kira, going to one more investigation before dying 3 weeks later himself. That ending makes infinitely more sense
Near is around 18 in the second half so he's not a child. He's just short and wears pajamas all the time. There is a four year time skip after L's death and the first time we see Near and Mello. It's during this time that Mello joins the mafia and rises to the top and Near has to re-start the KIRA investigation FROM SCRATCH. People think that Near "cheated" because he used L's information but this is not true. Everything L learned was purposely deleted by Watari to prevent the info leaking to Kira. The only thing Near knew was 1. Kira exists and 2. The real L is dead and while L did prove that Kira existed by the time Near is introduced into the story the existence of Kira is just blatantly obvious to even the general public which is of course what Light wanted since he wants to be a god. L's death was the bigger clue. I think Near suspected the second L of being Kira from the very beginning. It was just a matter of finding concrete evidence to prove that in order to "win the game".
Am I the only one who enjoyed the anime all the way throughout. I did not find unenjoyable and feel like light lost because L gave near all the info he needed like he was ahead of the game and plus at this point light was cocky, felt no real threat he underestimated near and believed he was untouchable
While I find how it was presented lacking, that reasoning that goes into his defeat is what I enjoyed. I just think it could have been explored in a more engaging way
I guess the RUclips algorithm decided to show me the wrong kind of things. I think it's pretty ridiculous to assume that not only was Gevanni able to steal the real Death Note (a flawless bank heist), but also copy its entirety (including the ~5 years that Light used it) AND return the fake one in its place, all in a single night. Not only that, but Light somehow completely forgot to tell his associate to keep some real pages on him at all times just in case something like this happened. It just doesn't make sense and makes for a bad ending imo.
Light should've lost in episode 10 while L was still alive, L knew it was him but couldn't kill him because he needed evidence. Even though Light slipped up twice in one episode proving to L he was Kira, Light was very good at hiding evidence meaning that L couldn't do anything Lights lose was inevitable from the very beginning and L was a genius, predicting it in episode 5. Near wasnt close to being as good as L even with that other guy he worked with. The inly difference here is that Light was conered do to L's investigations. He had to work there and contact near because he was in a horrible position even after killing L. None of this was Nears doing but all L's. RIP L you were a true genius
Idk what I think about it.Most of the anime evolved around light.Maybe if L was in the beginning it would have been obvious who the main character is,but then killing him made it obvious that light was.Then he dies to N.It does not matter cause the death note will eventually fall in the wrong hands again.This anime will have no end until all Shinigami die they solved the problem with light but not the death note.So if the anime ends here I'll be quite confused
I havnt found someone who spoke on it, and it's bugging me because I know there isn't any flaws but...When Mikami went to the bank off schedule to write Tadakas name in the real Death Note that led to Lights downfall, how did Near come to the conclusion that a fake Death Note was involved? As far as Near is concerned Mikami could have went to the bank, written Tadakas name in the Death Note (fake Near replaced) and placed it in the bank, because they replaced it immediately with another fake, there was no time to check Mikami briefcase again
Light absolutely deserved to lose, yes. Any other ending would make no sense. But the WAY he lost was bullshit. I want to read the manga just to learn if somehow the anime omitted crucial details.
If light and mikami were really smart mikami would have had a piece of the death note somewhere else and light would have won. But at the same time if light is alive the series would have to continue and they wanted it to end. Soon the end light lost to plot.
What's always pissed me off about DeathNote is the Light did not kill L! He got someone to do it for him on such basis he should have been terrified that there were 2 people at or around L's level coming for his life his kingdom! This should have sent Light in to a type of fight for his life that dwarfed his fight with L; but they didn't make the story that way. It was written to slowly make Light more incapable even if he tried. Lets remember these 2 children were "imperfect" L's so if we saw prime Light like in season one, but now recognized these people as legitimate threats he might've faired better. On the other hand simply because he couldn't out smart L (L would never give his real name to anyone and was smart enough to keep away from those with the eyes of the shinigami) without giving up half his life but he didn't want to so there we have it. Light lost because the story required him to lose or more like wanted him to lose. Now I'm no genius but if I had the ability to kill with a book you could damn well believe I'd never trust it with anyone else Light didn't either but the story conveniently forced him to rely on independent variables another marker of his down fall. In other word the: cunning skilled capable conniving tinkering maniacal Light Yagami left it up to Luck. Which I will always call bullshit on he'd never leave it up to luck. Unless he could accurately guess what might happen like he always wears a watch, or how like any innocent person wrongfully imprisoned he would try and prove his innocence or if your drowning you'll try to swim and save yourself it just makes sense. Watching Light post L is like watching Einstien get Alzheimer's. It hurts them sure but it hurts you more because at some point your the only one able to see its getting worse.
Light got overconfident because he set up that plan to lose his memories and the manga implied that he even already set up the plan to have rem kill L if misa doesn’t remember L’s real name before he lost his memories. It’s not that much of a surprise that Light would think he’s unbeatable after going through all the trouble in defeating who to him was the only person that had a chance of beating him.
I've never looked much into the theories myself, but it's true he very well could have. I also see L's message to him mentioned a lot, as another reason for how easy it was. I always just accepted that Light got sloppy, because that's what was most prevalent in the presentation to me
Honestly the manga did that arc way better. The ending was different, it wasn't as rushed, although most of the details were the same the anime skipped over a lot of information which is a big part of what made the story so good in the first place. As for Near, a lot of people dislike him because he's basically a discount L but I always felt that that wasn't fair, L was over 30, Near wasn't even 17 yet, of course he's going to feel like a lesser, and personally I feel like the approach of Near + Mello make a potentially better L than the original was a better approach than if they had just randomly thrown in a successor that was just as good or better than L anyway. In short, I think it was a more than satisfactory arc. But definitely not as good as the original.
It's very weird hearing that people hate that arc/those characters when while it was actually on tv and shortly after, people (at least teenagers in the part of texas i live in) people fucking loved them!
Hope they do a prequel about L sort-out other cases before Kira case... or Near has L against a new Kira support with Light has new Shinigami without his past human live memories...
I think the fact that Near is so hated and Mello actually had a decent fanbase is proof that the fans never really cared about a battle of intellect it was always about the pride for most people, they wanted to know who could win not who should
Honestly just more episodes and it probably would have been fine. They were making another battle of the minds in half the time, which just wasn't possible, and made Lights devolution feel rushed
i actually ended up finishing only the manga for this series and not the anime funny enough. honestly i didn't feel much of a drastic shift when reading the manga and idk if that's up to what was lost in adaptation or if the second arc just worked for me so i wasn't jarred by it like many other people were. who knows but it's interesting to think about
@@Tatakhae the ending was Iight defeating I but shonen pushed for more manga and the creator was basicaIIy forced to create the near part which is why its so SIoppy the true ending is Iight defeating I and going on to be the god of the new worId KIRA
Light's biggest enemy was his own ego. He was playing God.
Exactly, he never really lost to anyone but himself
@VillainGamingFN No...just...no...?
If I was to change the ending, it would mostly go as written in the manga. Where my changes would start would be when Matsuda pulls his gun and Nears bodyguards take aim at him shouting "don't move!" In my version Mikami, having finished his work and being startled by the sudden violence bolts. There's no need to hang around, Mikami's day couldn't get any better. He just glimpsed his god and doubtlessly pleased him.
Meanwhile, back in the warehouse, everyone is frozen in the standoff. Light really has no desire to break it, he thinks he has just won. Near, actually holding the better hand thinks Mikami little more than a loose end that can be rounded up whenever. Oddly enough though, it is Light that breaks the silence. He just can't contain his laughter as he is counting down the seconds. Aizawa asks Light "what's so damn funny" and is answered with a monolog about the power of Kira and the hubris of humanity thinking it can stand against such a power. Everyone is clearly put off by such strange statements and Matsuda, probably not intentionally thinking out loud, voices "Light, are you Kira?" Light's internal counting reaches "38...39...", he flashes his biggest winning smile and goes to proclaim his victory but gets out little more than "I..." before clutching his chest in pain. The task force members surround Light, moving to catch him as he collapes to the ground. The only other smile in the room fades as Near implores Light to finish his declaration. The only thing on Light's mind though is 'did Mikami betray me...the bastard!', but then he and Near notice Ryuk chuckling. "Remember what I told you in the beginning Light..." Ryuk gleefully declares as he returns his notebook to it's place on his waist. As life leaves Light's body Near full of fear questions Ryuk "what do you mean Shinigami....what did you tell him!?" This outburst draws the attention of everyone else in the room, and Near, as if just remembering everyone else exists, goes to pull out the the real deathnote to explain. The only thing is, he seems to have misplaced it. Near turns his attention to where Ryuk was, but the only part left is his fading chuckles "humans sure are...interesting". The task force, fearful of sharing a fate with Light, demand answers and Near explains everything about finding and duplicating Mikami's deathnote. Near assures everyone that Mikami is a non threat and easy to find (being so meticulously rigid).
Cut to some time later. Mikami was never found. The Kira case has gone cold. Numerous copycats have appeared, but well, clearly are copycats and most are easily captured and convicted.
@@VillainGamingFN With an army of well trained artists equipped with cutting edge tech and a budget that makes the US military equal part jealous and impotent.
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I actually enjoyed Near and Mello. I thought it was cool that Light still had to battle L, even after he managed to kill him. The last two episodes of death note still give me chills. When Light finally admits to being kira, and just completely loses his sanity. It was the only time we saw light being completely transparent with everyone. Then Mikakmi just kills himself after failing to fulfill his “Gods” expectation.
I will give that the final scene are legitimately very good; not just technically, but they're the perfect cap to the anime in every way: drama, thematics, final moments for Light, everything!
I loved Near and Mello too! Near had a different but also similar charm to L and Mello reminded me of other hot tempered anime characters! Also in a way he technically was the one who brought Light down, even after death.
Mello's ghost - Ladies and gentleman.. we got'em.
I hated it on my first watch, but after my second watch knowing how the show would end made the second part better for me and I also managed to enjoy it quite alot, the only thing that disappointed me was mello not getting enough screen time since I thought he was a really cool character
@@Bani0000Yeah, they did him dirty with the amount of screentime he got, but it's okay, we still love'em
@@ProfessorViral they're not really perfect. They made a huge mistake by saying how Near and his squad managed to copy the entire notebook in just a single night while in reality it would take them so much more time to actually pull that move. However, I guess the anime had to be a little flawed for the entertainment.
I personally loved this story arc. It's a shame that in the anime it was summarized in a few episodes!
Yeah, I think more time would have let it be much better
@@ProfessorViral if i could change anything in deathnote it would be giving matt,near, and mello more development.
Too bad I think the mistake wasn’t trusting Mikami now if light didn’t pull out his piece of the notebook he could have still won
@@duanedeal7139 no mikami called him God it was over then. No way back when makami killed takada it was over. But to be honest i like Mello not Near. I know more about Mello even if we see him less you get a big sense of who he is Near like toys thats it all i know of him. Atleast I know that Matt smoked and had a addiction to video games. I no nothing of near if there was more plot then i might have liked him. To me they did this in the manga to
@Dodurga Editz yeah i just need more Near make me like him. And he tries so much to be L he is not L and Mello doesn't do that. He is his own person not trying to be anything but the best. Near tries to be L trying to replace him. Instead of Near trying to copy L how about make him an independent character
Ryuk represent us, and even the creators. If ryuk hadn't been bored, he wouldnt have dropped the notebook, if we as the audience hadn't been bored, we wouldnt be looking for a new series to watch/read. If we hadn't been bored, the series would of never existed.
I do agree with this, I love it as a meta-thematic ending to the series. It's all because of boredom, every last bit
It's almost like we wrote lights name in the death note
@@prince4503 😂 Love it.
@@tyrellrivera ehe 😅
Squid Game does the exact same thing with the VIPs 🤣
I actually love the second half but the only problem is that what Near did with Mikami's notebook is just impossible. No way Giovanni just casually broke into his safe, made a perfect copy of the notebook with tens of thousands of names in it and switched it all in less than a day. Mikami could have tested the notebook before coming to be sure, or use clippings, especially when he and Light foresaw Near's plan to switch his notebook with a fake. Also Mikami could have brought a gun just to be safe, like Higuchi did when he went out to try and get Matsuda's real hame. It's just doesn't make any sense.
Only plot hole in death note sadly
Post credits do highlight the theory that Near used the Death Note to force Mikami to mess up to ensure he would win.
It also fills in how the pen would be lethal as to where he jabbed himself and how fast he went down too imo.
nope.
you confused the death notes.
there were 3 until one of the shinigami's whose notebook ryuk stole took it back. that was the notebook light used primarily. meaning? the notebook that was actually used most of the time is gone.
which leaves misa's notebook. which was barely used. which mikami ended up using but barely. knowing that its mulitple trained agents who are extremly skilled did it its belivable.
@@black-redpill3 the death note can't make things more powerful, only create the most unlikely accidents happen.
@@thephoenix4093
Never said it made things more powerful. I am more getting at Mikami knowing exactly where to jab himself to not only get between the ribs but also hit an artery on the first attempt is so absurd and unlikely that him going out that way comes across as s byproduct of the notebook instead of organically (people usually aim for their necks to boot for incidents like those, making it even more strange).
To be honest if you really think about it, ryuk was the *real* winner in the end. I’m not sure if they was really any winner but ryuk got what he wanted. His *entertainment.*
This is very true, I can't remember if I mentioned it here, but that is another point that makes the ending perfect; it never mattered anyway. Ryuk was just letting things happen because he was bored
Yeah, I remember after Light killed L Ryuk was questioning if things were going to get bored now (somewhat implying he was gonna kill Light and move on if e was going to get too bored now that he didn't have a rival) tho Light assured him things were going to get more interesting. @@ProfessorViral
to be fair L knew light was kira and the whole investigation was just to get the evidence.
He never says outright he knows its Light, but I guess those low percentage chances he gives could just be taking that lack of evidence into account
@@ProfessorViral the low numbers aren't what he actually means...
@@VintageTechie no it actually is. He didnt know what to think anymore since it was the first time he was in this situation. That shows how he was lacking some evidences. If someone really watched death note especially L he wouldve know his developpment.
@@sweetsoul3169 you haven't seen the interview with the author where he literally states what I said :/
@@VintageTechie yeah I don’t think they have. The author said himself said when L said then percentages it really was around 90% instead of 3%
I don’t mind the second arc. I enjoy many aspects, but I do agree that it feels anticlimactic. That’s the point. With L dead, things come to a halt. Yes, Light achieves so much more in a quicker pace, but the hunt for Kira is dead on arrival. A sudden stop. The process of Near and Mello hunting Kira is so slow, but that’s because they have different approaches to L. Mello was quick, but once Light fought back, everything slowed back down as Mello had to recover and reorganize himself. Near was taking his time, because the goal was to stop Kira. If that meant more deaths, oh well. Better a few die than the world, or the world being enslaved. Neither were childish like L, as L describes himself. They didn’t want to play a game with Kira, so we didn’t get that fun cat and mouse game. L put so much at risk to win his own way. A prideful, childish way. He would rather humiliate Kira and bait him than play it smart. He didn’t give the FBI fake IDs. He told Kira directly many of his plans. He told Light that Misa was arrested, then left without arresting him right then and there. He even hoped that Light had a plan to prove himself innocent, questioning why the deaths didn’t continue once Light had himself arrested. He didn’t want to win immediately, he wanted a show about it. Little did he know.
Near, despite being a child, didn’t care for any of that. The game was simple. Win. It doesn’t have to be exciting. It doesn’t have to be dramatic. A simple, fair win. That is why killing both Kira and X Kira wouldn’t suffice. He has to prove the evidence prior to the execution, and nothing more. No showboating. Even as extreme as Mello was, he didn’t care for drama, either. He wanted to win fast, only his approach was through far more selfish and criminal acts. He probably would have killed Light if given the chance, without needing to prove his theories that the second L is Kira. It’s actually too bad Mello wasn’t a bigger part of the second arc.
It doesn’t help that the second arc was rushed in the anime, even the first arc skipped some contexts. Either way, the second arc isn’t terrible, just mostly slow thus dull. That final episode is always pleasant, though, with a melancholy conclusion. That’s why I keep binging it. It will never end if I start from the beginning again.
Good analysis, but there's one incorrect sentiment; L wasn't interested in directly making a fool out of Kira and Near isn't more mature than L. They both had the same general strategy of playing a battle of pride while attempting to find indisputable evidence of Kira's identity and crimes to secure an absolute victory against him, even if it meant taking a long time, resulting in more victims of Kira and more opportunities for Kira to kill them. The nature of the victory L aimed for would've been enough for him to indirectly make a fool out of Kira, which is clear when observing Near's victory. Near wasn't directly mocking Light, he was just telling him the facts, while the nature of Light's absolute loss was what hurt his feelings the most.
Near succeeded because, on top of having the benefit of being the second genius person to attempt to defeat Kira instead of the first, and on top of the benefit of having Mello also causing problems for Kira, Near was more cautious and painstaking than L, which made it practically impossible for Light to even reach him in a way that could benefit him unless he did the galaxy-brain plan that he did, which ended up failing because it relied on people who aren't him acting exactly as planned, meanwhile Near had his own galaxy-brain planning that adapted to his discoveries. L failed because, despite having more experience than both Near and Light, the Death Note was completely new at the time, and he was more willing to make sudden high risk-return actions to make discoveries, which benefited him, but prevented him from meticulously planning everything from start to finish and editing his plan according to discoveries, which allowed Light to have favorable opportunities.
In a narrative perspective, one of the attributes of L that Mello embodied was his bold actions and sudden behavior, while one of the attributes of L that Near embodied was his intelligence and caution. As you know, L and Mello both died in the end but required Light to think fast, while Near, who strictly thinks before acting, ended up surviving and majorly contributing to defeating Light at his own game. This implies that, L had the correct idea in mind for defeating Light, but a major reason why L lost was due to the fact that he's only one person, and at the time was the only person who could both directly and indirectly challenge Light at his level. Near and Mello being two different people who individually demonstrated certain capabilities that L had that could challenge Light came with the major benefit of Near and Mello being able to separately apply those capabilities against Light, which led to Light's defeat.
"It was made with no deep meanings relating to religion, but as the series went on, those meanings sort of entered the series themselves."
-One of The Death Note Creators
Whether you love or hate Near, he had a point: Light isn’t a god or the creator of a new world, he’s a serial killer who thinks he’s hot shit. And Light’s downfall is satisfying entirely because he’s a modern Icarus who metaphorically flew too close to the sun and violently drowns in his own hubris. He thinks he’s a suave master of 4D Chess but literally gets outsmarted by a kid, then spills his spaghetti and dies.
Yep, he was so up his own ass he didn't think he could lose. I love that his habit of gloating before the kill is what fully seals the deal. They had speculation; he gave them the confession
But who is righteous here? Who is truly justice? Have justice really prevailed here?
As if the writers didn't spoon-feed another bland child prodigy character with more plot armor and leaps of logic than L had in the first season, by a vast margin. The near arc was trash, and near as a character is held together by ex machinas.
@@cyberpunk-2O77 In a narrative perspective, Near and Mello are supposed to be caricatures of certain attributes of L, and L had some childish traits, therefore Near and Mello had to narratively inherit those traits. This was to make Near and Mello give off a similar mood as L while still being different than him, and while being ultimately inferior to him individually yet superior to him combined, which was even highlighted by actual dialogue in the series. Near is indeed an example of the "child" prodigy character archetype, but due to his purpose in relation to L, he's not a bland example.
Near's way of thinking wasn't how you describe. During the time-skip, he had thoroughly researched the Kira case off-screen so he could be caught up with a lot of information so he could have a sufficient reason to deduce that Light was Kira, because despite starting late, he needed to pose a threat to Light. This was similar to L in that, for ambiguous off-screen reasons, he deduced that the members of the Kira investigation team outside of the Yagami family weren't secretly Kira, in a narrative perspective for the sole purpose of making the focus of the story primarily being Light VS L. In a narrative perspective of what concerns Near, he was finishing what L had started, so for the sake of preventing redundancy, a lot of Near's reasoning wasn't shown.
As for Near discovering the role of Teru Mikami, it seemed like divination in the anime series, but that's because the anime series cut out a lot of the internal dialogue of characters other than Light that was present in the manga series, and this scene was an occurrence of that. With the context of the manga series, it can be inferred that the anime series depicts the evidence and footage spinning around Near as he looked at all of them with superhuman efficiency to figure out that Mikami was Light's helper. Like I wrote before, Near is supposed to be a caricature of L. L was a genius, not an esper.
@@justjames4 the ending is physically impossible to I think it's safe to assume Light actually won. Like the problems with the ending have been pointed out already, so you can't possibly claim Near won unless you accept that he used magic to do so.
I get what you're saying. And much like that game of tennis they played, the dynamic in Light's roles in the 1st and 2nd half are like you see in sports all the time. At the start, the season just started Light is the challenger going for the title (you could say L's a challenger too in terms of the case like two teams trying to win the finals, but L's more so the title holder, world champion, in fact, given his rep as a detective). Challenger Light made it to his title match and won (by TKO I guess but still won😂). Light's now world champion. Who does he topple nex- oh wait, he's the world champ. He's already on top and far from the underdog. Can't go higher than that. You can only do 3 things now. Spread your influence. Bask in your influence. And play defense, cuz you gain no more status winning, but you'll fall from glory if the title challenger beats you. Light playing challenger as the winner makes little sense. And Challengers Near and Mello come through. Mello didn't win his challenge but he definitely put the world champ on the ropes. And Near saw flaws and openings from Mello's fight that nobody else did (cuz it's not like it was pay-per-view. Nobody who saw Light's fight as a challenger is alive or has loose lips.) Now Near's match for the title comes. Light is cocky but Near's research and reads ends with a first round KO to the world champ... and on top of that, the Death Note's confirmed link to Light is the breaking news that the champ used performance enhancing drugs to get through all his fights too.
It's all downhill from there. Light's career is dead.
I would have never thought to put it that way, but that's actually a very accurate way to describe things! Hits the points in a quite easily understandable way, and gives even more sense as to why Light lost, as the "defending champ"
Light's death is perfect for a character like him, but the manga is better, the anime romanticizes him, picturing him like a "poor boy" that's about to die, he sees a version of himself before he picked the death note, maybe feeling regret or missing those innocent times and the last thing he sees is the ghost of L, the only person he consired his equal.
In the manga Light's death is raw and humilliating and exactly what he deserved, he doesn't get to run away, Ryuk appears and Light thinks Ryuk is going to save him, but Ryuk becomes very demonic while showing Light he wrote his name in his death note, Light screams, curses and cries, while Ryuk laughs, watching him die, he told him he would kill him when things got boring and yeah, he was right, Light became so arrogant and stupid with the years, if Ryuk saved him at that moment, then there would not be anyone else to stop Light, no more action or drama, just a guy writing names all too confortable at the top of the world, and that's boring to watch
This perspective certainly makes me feel better about the weaker half of the series. Light's god complex made him less hands on and his over reliance on others to do the work for him lead to slip ups.
Exactly. I wish they had made it more gradual so he didn't just feel "stupid" and careless, but it is the way it should have went
@@ProfessorViral Light may have been a genius academically but even before he became Kira he was a moron in pretty much every other area of his life, hell that misanthropy and God Complex Kira exhibited Light demonstrated long before he ever found the Death Note or met Ryuk! Light was a narcissistic psychopath and such individuals are usually their own worst enemy even though they don`t recognize that fact until it`s far too late.(In The Manga, Light`s last thought was "I don`t want to die.", right up to the end Light/Kira only thought about himself, not anybody else he`d killed, he always had an excuse, always had an alibi,always had a justification) so I personally thought that the fact that such a delusional God-complexed loser was defeated not by the master detective he mistakenly viewed as his natural enemy but rather by two more self-aware teen sociopaths trained by said detective(Who,in The Manga, even point out that psychologically and philosophically they are not so different from Light) was fitting!It also went to show how untenable Light/Kira`s dream of a crime-free utopia truly was. And for all of ya`ll who defend Light, as Near said using the notebook once or twice or even three times would have been understandable but you yielded to the power of the shinigami and the notebook and have confused yourself with a god,in the end you`re just a crazy serial killer.Nothing more,nothing less."
Something that bothered me about the final arc was how L's findings were never passed on to his successors. Yet Mello and Near though halves of a whole, through their own experiments and deductions, pick up clues that took L much longer to discover. It felt cheaper and more contrived. I know they had limited time, but it would have felt more feasible if they had been able to pick up off of where L left off, rather than both starting from square one and getting to the same conclusion as L much more quickly.
Near gathered evidence concerning the Kira case for three years before he replaced L, but most likely for the sake of avoiding redundancy, this was only stated instead of demonstrated. Mello figured out that Kira had connections to the NPA because he was even more extremely hands-on with his strategies than L was, and the SPK managed to figure out what Mello was doing, so they figured out that Light was Kira in not a long time thanks to Near's genius intelligence. I didn't find that L took a very long time to deem Light as a primary suspect, so Near reaching this conclusion in not a very long time too didn't seem odd to me.
@@justjames4actually it was Ls investigation that helped near and mello since they know what happened to higuchi and how the notebook kills it was mainly L who gave it all away now it was just near and mello to finish the job that’s how it looks like in the manga while in the anime it just shoves it right in ur face
@@Chris_fyn I meant that Near gathered evidence that existed as a result of L's investigation initially allowing them to exist.
I really love the last arc of Death Note because of its themes. For me, the show wasn't all about Kira Vs L. It was about so much more. I wasn't In love with L and because of that I didn't really mind that much when he lett. Watching how the world changed and how Kira was slowly taking control was fascinating. Mikami and Takada were great. But most importantly for me, it was the nihilistic aura surrounding the show at the beginning. L gave the series a lot of humor, but at the end of the day Death Note its all about one thing: Death. And how Death its equal. When we die we all go to "Nothingness" and that aura was recovered in the last arc.
I completely agree on that last point; I think the final moments of the anime were legitimately perfect due to that. It could never have ended any other way. And, I probably could appreciate Mikami and Takada more along the lines of Kira's slow grip tightening over the world, but I simply don't think they were strong characters. Maybe that's the point; they're weak because Light has that much influence and a god-like status. But, I didn't enjoy when they were on screen despite that. I think most of the intrigue was in watching L and Light battle it out, while the darkness and contemplation crept in the background. The focus shifted the other way in the final arc, and while I think it's very technically perfect, I have to stand by believing it to be the "worse" arc of the anime. But, thank you for the comment, I enjoy seeing great discussion down here, it means I'm doing something right, and chatting with everyone is one of the best parts of it! : D
@@ProfessorViral you are a l fan confirmed
For the ones who fell in love with L the last arc was about grieving his death lol for real tho. It was so heartbreaking
@@michemicalromance I loved him very much, but I love Near and Mello as well :>
I still mourn how my boy Matt was demoted to literally like 1 minute of screen time
He has 2-3 scenes and only speaks in one of them
Matt needs justice
On the third time of watching, I've grown to really appreciate the last arc with Near and Mello.
It took me a few watches as well to look past what I immediately disliked and appreciate what was there. I still don't quite enjoy it I guess, but I do like some of what it did
I actually love Near. Idk why ppl hate him. Mello and near are basically two halves of L in a sense
I think if he had gotten more time, or a better lead up he'd be likeable. L developed into someone unique and interesting, Near feels like a shallow attempt to do it again
Because L did everything just to die and then near just pops in
@@JinisBored That's a dumb excuse to hate him for just existing
Because he looks like L but worse?
@@Sheeissocool how is he worse?
Just like in the tennis match, L in a lot of ways HELPED Light. Light was given constant pressure, and had to work his ass off. His goals grew, his planning and thinking capacity shifted, in a 5 years later world where L survives, it's possible that Light is still his effective, top of his game self. Without evolutionary pressure, there is no way to be prepared for new challenges.
It fits the theme perfectly, Light is a bonifide genius, at his original level, he could have absolutely kept going after L died. His motivation to grow was from his ego though, and reaching that point made him complacent. His loss began the moment he killed L and started claiming that "he won and there was no one in his way". Absolutely stupid. To think you can influence a planet and ever not have to watch your back.
I think a lot of celebrities are like this too, talking a big game and actually working extremely hard, but once they reach their peak, they end up falling off and delving into scandal. I have a friend who is extremely talented with this mindset. He already talks about how good it's going to be AFTER he is famous. The whole goal for these types is to meet the needs of their ego, which is amazingly motivating until it's fulfilled. Lights plan was to put himself on the pedestal, but thinking about how to keep himself there does nothing for his complex. He had proven himself already, even entertaining that he could need to protect himself would feel for him like he is diminishing himself.
Near's timing was perfect. He entered the fray 5 years after Light had fully accepted his throne. Light no longer had to be paranoid, or careful. And just like the most prolific real life serial killers, often having the intelligence to get away with it doesn't mean the discipline necessary to keep doing so will be there as well. Light should have watched Dexter and taken notes. Lmfao
Galvatron " If you dare to have dreams of power you will be consumed by them"
I love the second half of the series, yes I do enjoy the first half more but I think the second half is perfect as well. Its a fitting continuation for everything that has happened, you cant expect it to be like the first half because the first half was about Light growing and starting his goals, doing anything for it because he knows if he fails their will never be a chance again. In the second half we see the result, the entire world has been changed and we see how it effects everyone, people who do believe and do not believe. You can see the sheer desire to be on top and to have complete dominance and doing whatever it takes with mello. You can see the already achieved power and that holder of power making many movies to ensure their power is protected, no matter how cruel, within Light. And you see the one who sits back and lets everything unfold while also being apart of the cause, and secretly being the one to inforce the moves and not have themself or his forces he the downfall of their opponet, but the opponet themself. So much more I could get into, thank you again for making this video because people are seeming to appreciate it a bit more now.
people always say L was smarter than light because he didnt have knowledge of the deathnote for a portion of the series. However people always forget that L had entire governments on his side, and taskforces, and equipment. If L was working alone just as light was, he wouldnt have been able to do the broadcast to figure out lights region.
If light didn't have misa and rem he would not win.
@@sneakz224they both had hacks on each others sides
I really appreciate this video. It explains my conflicted thoughts perfectly. I find the arc to be thematically brilliant, but also less thrilling than the rest of the series
Yeah, it is a very conflicting final section of the series. It sucks that the best way to continue the themes had to be so much less engaging. Honestly, I'd like to see what it would have been like with a full season of episodes, like the first arc
Light and L are 2 sides of the same coin.
It shows how both are acting exactly opposite. Light continuously sacrifices everyone because he views himself a everyone's superior.
Light exploited Misa and Takada among many others, planning to kill all of them in the end.
L knew full well he will die, but since he discovered the Death Note, he knew that Near's victory would be an easy win. The supernatural Death Note was the only thing that kept Light's ideology alive. His arrogance has knocked him off his feet numerous times; the Cards Test, the Cell Phone scene. Light lost completely, but then those Shinigami Eyes and memory erasing also memory restoration (when he touched Death Note again) showed up in the story.
When Near sits with L's mask on, it's symbolism that all Near and Mello did was actually L's doing. L and Near complimented the actions off their team members, while Light perpetually mocked everyone apart from himself, repeatedly slipping.
Light got cocky, corrupted mentally and thought of himself as a god rather than someone serving justice. If Near was to die off Light would eventually become very evil
I'd agree. He always used those around him, but it amped up in the later arc. The world, and everyone in it, simply became his to use and then throw away
i like the arc , at first i didn’t because i was sad about L but i like Near and Mello
Thats fair, I was very against them the first time I saw it, but much less so now
I liked Near and Mello's part better (even though L is my favorite as a character) because in that part everyone already was used to all the supernatural stuff that L had to prove. I feel like in part 1 it was too easy for Light.
There is some truth that he had a bit of advantage from such an unbelievable situation. No one would jump to "a book that kills people!"
Narratively and thematically speaking, Near was the perfect character to defeat Light. He didn't view him in the same light L did, there wasn't some great rivalry in the name of justice. Light was a killer, and Near is a detective. That's all there is to it.
It's a shame it got fumbled so bad, though.
Whoever says that light deserved to win has serious issues
I'd keep my distance, that's all I'll say lol
He didn’t deserve to win but he deserved to win in the situation of how he actually lost which was illogical.
@@OWmyDragonballz nothing about the finale was illogical
@@notjeff7833 No amount of intellect is allowing someone to copy someone's hand writing perfectly and copying pages and pages of names overnight, it was literally just physically impossible for nears agent to do that let alone break into the bank vault to obtain the notebook.
@@OWmyDragonballz it was already explained via manga that: they didn't need to make a perfect copy. Near had written mikami's name into the real death note so mikami doesn't test the death note before arriving. This is why mikami suspiciously died after 12 days and near was quick to burn the death notes. There is also a very detailed explanation on r/deathnote reguarding how rester and gevanni only had to copy 16 pages worth of names. Furthermore, gevanni has 10/10 counterfeit skills in volume 13 graph. Enough to fool the npa from a distance.
In volume 7; Larry conners, despite being an spk member, showed his fbi id to soichiro which means despite working for spk, you still retain your previous job's status (also proven by lidner and rester being allowed to continue their previous jobs after the kira case) gevanni can use his interpol status to either bluff his way in or do it legally stating he is investigating said person (depending on what laws were being enacted in Japan) near also said that it was an old fashioned local bank so getting past security shouldn't be a problem or he can just bribe the employees. There are several yt videos from 10 years ago where people have successfully lockpicked vaults used in banks at the time which means it is more than possible.
I once did a reddit post on how many episodes each manga got:
Manga 1 (Pages: 175) Episodes: 4 Pretty much perfect shot for shot adaptation. 4 episodes for one manga is perfect.
Manga 2 (Pages: 179) Episodes: a bit less then 4. The end of episode episode 8 is the start of manga 3.
Manga 3 (Pages: 175) Episodes: 3
Manga 4 (Pages: 183) Episodes: 5 and a half. Misa gets introduced and captured at the end.
Manga 5 (Pages: 177) Episodes: A bit more then 3 episode 20 is the start of number 6.
Manga 6 (Pages: 185) Episodes: 4 episodes
Manga 7 (Pages: 191) Episodes: 2 and a half episode (In the middle of that one L dies)
Manga 8 (Pages: 179) Episodes: 2 and a half episode
Manga 9 (Pages: 173) Episodes: 2
Manga 10 (Pages: 169) Episodes: 2
Manga 11 (Pages: 189) Episodes: 2 and a half
Manga 12 (Pages: 189) Episodes 2 and a half
There are the numbers and they add up almost perfectly. From 4-5 episodes per manga, to 2-2/5 per manga after L's death. Uff.
Hey bro , i read your comment on that unicorn dude's video. Appriciate your oppinions
@@ishanpareek2188 I hope someday you climb up to my window in real life and say "I really like your takes on death note!"
@@Belowski69 doesnt need too , i can say it from here too
" i really like your takes on death note "
@@ishanpareek2188 °/////° thankies
I actually already enjoyed Near & Mello's arc in the anime although definitely not as much as L, but I recently read the manga and it's so much better, they really did them so dirty in the anime... I actually loved the 2nd half of the series, I wish it was longer because I personally really enjoyed Near and Mello's characters.
Same!
I’m happy someone is saying this, cause I don’t understand why people romanticize Light. Like he’s smart and a good character, but he’s not an admiral character. he’s an egomaniac mass murderer who thinks he has the god given right to kill others. I was happy he lost
Because Light in a romantic sense Light is like a vigilante.
My favourite part of Death Note was definitely the scene where L wipes Light's feet😏
Great video BTW👍
I LOVED how you pointed out Kira using himself to further advance across the board. Almost as if "Kira" took advantage of a separate entity from himself.
I'm not quite to the end, but it sounds like a master class in absurdism. Light took it so seriously, desperate to be relevant and prominent in the world, only to be discarded and forgotten
The absurdity is definitely on point; it pushes so far into drama that rather than feeling cheesy it's something special
Except he spread justice in the world to the point there was a whole fu cling cults worshipping him and waiting for his return
I don’t know how exactly he was forgotten
I think, looking at the whole death note series as a whole that Light won thw battle against L but L in the end won the war.
One last think is near, always threat Kira like just a serical killer. Something as simple mentality is a big part in the finally played a role
I found the later episodes enjoyable because of the great aspects highlighted in this video, plus it still maintained its fantastic way of setting the mood and maintained its animation that I like. I find a story excellent when it's written very skillfully. It was still better when L was alive of course, but I didn't even have a problem with Near replacing him. He's a good successor to L, even though he's not a perfect replacement. He still has the same stoical eccentric genius vibe in his own way. Mostly from a distance, he was finishing what L started, which is why he had a simpler time than L when investigating Light. The fact that Death Note had the courage to let L die made the finale even more suspenseful, since it established that it's willing to let important characters die if it makes sense.
Anyway, the video is a good analysis of the good aspects of Death Note's later episodes. 👍
People can't be happy without L, can they? "It's bsc perfectly writen, everything makes sense, all characters are new and unqiue and it picks up all the themes and developments from the first half perfectly.. but it was bad" like what do you wan lmao
There's a reason I use "technically" here. Everything they did felt like the perfect way for it to end, however, they didn't have the time to develop the new characters, or make Lights transition feel more natural. It's disjointed. If Mellow and Near had more to their character then "L but slightly different," I would like it. But they never became anything more. I love L because we're slowly introduced to him and he's a unique character. Mellow and Near aren't
@@ProfessorViral I want to say that the manga is almost as long as the first half. A comment that I left half a year ago shows how much was cut out of the manga from the second half. My math concludes that 10 EPIOSDES WORTH OF CONTENT IS MISSING. In those 10 episodes: Mello gets a full new arc where he does things like threaten the president with a third world war, Light shows more cracks early on, Near explains his views on power and L more, Near shows more emotion, Mello and Near have a scene more together, the ending is different and there is a epiloge that plays one year after Light's death. Hell, NEAR HAS MORE SCREENTIME WHERE WE SEE HIM THAN L IN THE MANGA. But I guess we judge the anime on it's own so lets do that:
Near and Mello are also without the manga content their own characters and far different from L. Even if I strip all the things the manga adds away, they still hold their own.
Mello: Do I have to explain this? L and Mello have in common: Both have a massive ego and want to be the best and both are highly intelligent. Mello also has anger issues, is more open about his hate, is more willing to do with things that are roughless and immoral and Mello has a character development where he learns to give up his ego to proof himself as worthy and intelligent. While Mello was willing to give the "final words to Near" and win together with him, L died in Light's arm after lieing to his team several times with his last thoughts being "Light.. is kira.. I was right.. but...." L just cared about being right and being the best. Mello too, but he was able to get past his ego and proofed himself with that. Mello is not only a unquie character who shakes the story up in ways that L never could, but also plays into the theme of giving up power and ego.
Near: With Near I have to go a little into the manga. Near never had the problem of ego in the first place. Near was a litte sassy (especailly in the manga where he shows more emotion), but he was never arrogant or driven by ego. He was ready to work together with Mello from the start, while L only had Wateri for years and viewd "working with others as having lost." L hates to admit to being wrong. He wished that Light is Kira, he lied to Aizawa to see who he would chose, he wanted to be the smartest in the room and be the best detective. Near openly says "If we make a mistake we just say sorry." and Near also admits that nor he or Mello are as great as L or Light in terms of intelligence. Near being able to admit to being wrong, is even shown really cleverly. In the scene where he throws the darts and miss over and over again, he dosen't show anykind of saddness or shame. He just throws the next one, until he hits bullseye. We even get a fastcut to Light, while Near throws are dart, making it look like he aims at Light and he is his target. While L will only give it one shot and then try to justify why his shot was perfect, Near will throw as many as he needs and is able to say when his shots weren't correct. All Near cares about is solving the puzzle and respecting L. Near also dosen't plan on making Kira's death public, something that L very likely would of done. He also says at the end of the manga "I am no different from you Light. I believe in what I think is right, and believe that to be rightoues." he also has a speech about even if god existed his morals wouldn't be moral just because he is god and that Near would look at them for himself. Near knows that he isn't justice and isn't specail, he even goes as far as putting himself on the same level as Light in that, even if Near finds him pathetic. L thought of himself as justice, the smartest and thought that he is better than Light. There is also the fact that Near has no respect for Light at all, while L at least respected his intelligence. Near isn't as active as Light, L and Mello and isn't nearly (hehe) as smart as Light or L but his lack of ego is his biggest strengh and what makes him unquie. Also at the end of the manga, Matsuda has the theory, that Near KILLED MIKAMI with the Death Note. He wrote in it, that he would take the fake notebook Near made, write everyones name down except Light's and then die later to insure that his plan works. Then he burns the evidence later. If that theory is true is up to the reader. Did Near do it? Is it in his character? He did say in the manga that he can understand people who would use it once or twice for personal gain. Did he just say that to justify himself or was he geniuent? Every other who used the notebook in the show died, even L who wanted someone else to use it. Near would be the only one to get off the hook in the whole story for using the notebook. This could reflect the idea of the winner having the last word and being able to twist the facts to look as justice and right. Or maybe the theory isn't true and Near is truely against using the notebook and wasn't prideful till the end. This whole theory that the manga itself presends adds a whole new layer to Near's character and to the themes of the show. Near is also more honest about his thoughts and is more sassy, smiling a lot and being more playful with the Taskfroce than L in his own way. Once again, stuff that L wasn't able to do.
I am not saying that L was a bad character, quite the opposite, he is my second favorit after Near. But saying that Near and Mello aren't unquie is just dishonest and unfair to the characters, even if we only take the anime scenes and not the roughly 10 extra episodes of manga. Not to mention their OST slaps.
Also Light's character change was "too sudden?" If we once again ignore all the manga scenes that go more in depth about Light and his mental state, between the first half and the second are SIX YEARS. At the end of the first we see Light thinking "I am god, I am justice." 6 YEARS later, where he rules the world, after he won against the smartest man on the planet and he is now power hungrier than ever, thinks he can't be beaten and gets careless because of that and buys into his own lies more than even before. Sounds pretty believable to me. And again, this is without some manga scenes that show more cracks in Light's perfect mask before the ending.
Add all of what I just said to everything you said in the video and I would say we have A VERY solid second half. In my opinion the best part of the story, but since both parts are amazing, I can't blame anyone for liking the first more. Just please don't make the second part look bad. It's really great. And there is so much more I could talk about like: the great mindgames where characters outsmart each other (the whole ending plan from both sides, Near's money escape, everything Mello does with the notebook, Near and Mello getting information out Moggi, all of Near's little traps in talking, etc.) infact the second half has even more planning than the first because we have 3 people fighting against each other instead of 2. And all the side character that get more developed, I could go on.
In conclusion: While I would still STRONGLY suggest you give the manga a read because it's the best version of the story (even if you miss out on all the great animation, music and voice acting) and because everything after L's death is in my opinion the strongest part of the show. For it's use of themes, the clever mindgames, the change of power and for having Near (who I personally like more than L but that's 100% subjective). You may dislike the second half for whatever reason. You may even think it's the worst of the worst. But by god, Near and Mello aren't "L clones" and the second half has great writing. If it's worse or better than the first is up to the viewer/reader, I would say that objectively they are pretty even but subjectively I go with the second.
Thanks for reading my rant-
@@Belowski69 THANK YOU! You echo my thoughts almost exactly. Near is my favorite followed by L hahahaha
@@Belowski69 I'm a year late but I read all of this and I agree 👌👌👌👌
I agree I like Near even though I miss L
I'd probably like him more with a longer arc. But, I do like that he's more direct and confident with Light. It's like Light failed against someone more like himself
I watched this show after reading the manga. I gotta say that the manga's version of the Near and Mello stories was far more interesting and well written. The anime definitely suffered from the lack of episodes needed to bring the whole thing to life.
Anyway. When I watched the anime, I invited my father to watch it with me, because we enjoy sharing series with each other. My Dad actually thought that the Near and Mello arc was more interesting than the stuff with L, with him saying that turning the conflict into a three-way battle was more entertaining for him. Just an interesting perspective, I thought.
Having finished the manga recently, I do like this shift in involvement from Light. It's like he switched from playing a RPG to a RTS.
The L half had 25 episodes to cover essentially the first 50 chapters. The Near/Mello half had 12 episodes to cover the last 50 chapters. The second half got screwed by pacing and notable story cuts.
Talk about pride before the fall
That's a good one sentence summary lol
Ok I just watched it, all 37 episodes, and I’ve concluded that Light shouldn’t have lost. He clearly knew everyone in the room’s names besides Near. Especially Hal Lidner. He did the location reveal trick with Mello’s men where his dad died, why couldn’t he do the same with her and Near’s location. Even after they moved locations. Also Gevanni had to have completely copied a couple years of names perfectly character by character in Japanese in one day despite being from America to make a perfect replica of the death note. Even tho Makumi checked it under a literal microscope every day.
Also the reasoning behind why Near even suspected Makumi as “X-Kira” was so thin, they brushed over it so quickly.
Also if all Makumi had to do is look into the room he could’ve used to the countless holes all over the place instead of peaking from the door.
After L died it seems like the whole thing was over, light had won. Then near and mello were introduced and everything was rushed. I do like the arcs of Matsuda and Aizawa tho they weren’t bad.
I've always been fascinated by the geniuses presented in the series, whether they be Light, Kira, L, Near, Mello, for they had all one thing in common; their pride in themselves that wants to win. The one thing that set Light/Kira apart from the rest is simply, that he thought more of himself than what he actually was. The others had a huge pride and ego within them but at least they humble themselves to the point of admitting being humans with absurdly high IQ, nothing more nothing less. Light/Kira couldn't be content with that and that was his pride before his humiliating fall, humbled mercilessly by both humans and a godly being, Ryuk. That was the satisfying part of the ending;
Disliking Near based on his fairly inactive personality doesn't take away the fact that, cooperating with Mello, could rightfully, succinctly and concisely, humble Light to such a defeat that Ryuk considered it over by his own, subjective opinion of the matter translated as him ending Light's life as he always intended to do anyway.
I honestly wonder how you feel about Beyond Birthday and his grudge against L. BB definitely would of beat L if it wasn’t for his pride making his lead Naomi Misora during the entire case
It's a message and tale old as humanity itself; if you don't admit humility by your own accord and for yourself, everything around will whether you wanted it or not. Call it fate, destiny or Godhand, it is bound to happen with huge egos that don't admit basic boundaries.
@@sdgkh09 which makes Near’s battle more interesting. L didn’t care abt “justice” as much as he would like you to believe. He viewed his battle against light as a game, a “battle of pride”. (I forgot which character said this quote in the manga.) near didn’t care abt that, he viewed light like the murderer he his, and wanted to take him down.
@@sdgkh09 also this may be off topic but if you’re referring to the Godhand from berserk, they are a just a bunch of jerks who like hurting ppl. Only reason the godhand and the idea of evil exist is because of people’s subconscious and desire to find out why evil exists. Like they don’t care abt pride, they’re just some punks who literally go around sending ppl to hell just for fun
I agree that it is a battle of pride; who wins over the other? Not conceding to the other results in the winner keeping their pride, but becoming too prideful like Light results in fall due to pride that never was humbled honestly within themselves. L, N, M and, to some extent, BB all admitted their limitation and kept their humble pride even through defeat (like BB), for L hated that he didn't managed to make BB admit that L was right. L didn't care about winning over statistically over BB but it mattered a lot for L to make BB admit that L was right. Keeping pride and not losing face is important to geniuses, and losing face through being caught by their haughty pride is worse than winning through dirty tactics by those geniuses.
Being humble enough to admit this hig end pride is what made all other than Light win, and not ever admitting human limitation is what makes pride fall to the doom of reputation and self-respect of the too prideful.
There is a difference between admitting humble limitation of being a man despite genius level of pride and not wanting and not acting on admitting the human limitation of pride.
As some who works in the feds, I can tell you L was actually just doing his job. He knew Light was Kira, he just had to prove it with evidence
Yall. We found the FBI agent we always joke about
Btw L also knew light was Kira, he gave himself away when light said that he was being investigated by the fbi, L never told him he was suspected. Just a random fun fact
I really wish that light didn’t show his piece of the notebook in his watch he could have memorized nears name and killed him in several hours after confined then he could escape and force a member who knows where the death note is or Nate you control him and then you get your cops name and force him to let you go then you become a fugitive and near gives you the notebook you then get plastic surgery burn the records and light wins
Although that could have happened, I think its fitting that he only escapes because of Mikami doing something he didn't expect, which fits with how they got in that situation in the first place
I preferred the L arc. I miss his desserts!
The Near arc was good idk what people are talking about
I personally found it a lot less engaging, but I think I had that idea in my head from others before watching it. I still feel it's true, but I do like it more thematically
L did all the work all along and revealed the biggest part of the mysteries. Near had just to profit of that work and bring the final evidencies to the case. However, the risk was high for both of them and in a certain way they were both brave.
I always forget L left the head start, so I probably gave M and N a bit more credit here
to be honest, L's data was destroyed so Near had to start over
@@AlexKamillaKroy I believe it was transferred to Wammy's house in Episode 26..5yrs after L's death?
Light lost cuz the writer wanted him to loose.
How did Giovanni wrote over 300k names perfectly and in japanese when his native language is English.
He also break in the bank and stole the death note with no alarm, no one noticing and that same night he also wrote perfectly every SINGLE thing perfectly 🤡
Makes no sense specially when you know Light would always have a very easy second plan of kira #3 having an extra page in his pocket or watch like him
The ending didn't make sense because the writer was tired and the real ending was L losing and Light winning, he was just force to continue and wabted to end it has soon has he could
Light challenged L to face him head on, and Light stayed involved in L’s movements until the moment. If Light had found a way to keep Near nearer, he could have perhaps found a way to defeat him. Instead he kept him at a distance, and that allowed Near to orchestrate their meeting only when he was absolutely prepared to prove Light was Kira, without fail.
The biggest plot hole in this theorem is that Near's guy, forgot his name, somehow managed to break into the bank, break into Mikami's safe, get out without setting off any alarms, perfectly recreated the Deathnote (which Mikami checks for tampering every day UNDER A MICROSCOPE) with every name written by Mikami (which is in the hundreds of thousands) perfectly, break back into the bank before they opened to place the copy back, all under 18 hours...yeah, that's physically impossible
This is also the same show where L has a skyscraper built specifically to investigate Kira, even though the team is like 10 people
But L has a shit ton of money from various ventures, and there's nothing stopping him from hiring a team that's completely unrelated to them and asking them fo build an office building or something, maybe even paying them extra if they finish it as soon as possible@@ProfessorViral
But L has a shit ton of money from various ventures, and there's nothing stopping him from hiring a team that's completely unrelated to them and asking them fo build an office building or something, maybe even paying them extra if they finish it as soon as possible@@ProfessorViral
In the beginning, I was cheering for Light, but then he became a straight-up villain killing innocent civilians, and then I was hoping for his downfall. Strangely enough, there was a part of me that wanted him to win and survive.
What gets me is how naturally he bends his ideals, killing good and innocent people just doing their jobs to keep his power
@@ProfessorViral I agree. 💯💯💯💯💯
@@ProfessorViralthe dude legit killed “Lind L. Taylor” in ep2 just cuz the guy called Light evil. And yet ppl still sympathize with him like Walter White fans
The more I read the manga the more Near became my favorite character. It could be because I much prefer the manga ending than the anime ending that practically deifies Light.
Kind of reminds me of the first half of Steins;Gate in a way. If you haven’t watched it, it starts really slowly, but despite being “worse” it is completely necessary for the rest of the show to hit as hard as it does. This is just the same thing but flipped.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the two different endings from both the anime and the manga versions of the story.
Can someone please tell me Mikami's mistake? All I know is that both Light and Mikami wrote the same name... how did that mess everything up?
During the whole time frame of mikamis stalker following him Mikami was using a fake notebook and takada was the one actually killing To make it look like mikami was using the real notebook.
Mello kidnaps takada.
Mikami out of greed got scared and went to where the real death note was hiding so he could kill takada just in case she doesnt give any information. When he went to where the real death note was his stalker was following him and realized that its odd why mikimi was going to the bank. (Because he only goes to the bank on tuesdays or some shit) so the stalker went to his bank deposit and found the death note and saw that takadas name was written.
So they figured out mikami was using a fake notebook. And the real one was in the bank deposit.
And as you saw in the show light just used his hidden death note sheet to kill takada as well. I actually dont know who wrote her name first.
Mikami thought light couldnt take care of takada so he went to kill her. And light also went to kill her.
@@bluemagic4381 omg thank you so much it makes so much sense now I really appreciate it =)
@All Rounder Subham The last episode when Near shows the fake notebook they took from mikami to show everyone the real names to prove whoever's name isn't written is Kira. Light just read the notebook when Near showed everyone.
@@bluemagic4381 I know this was written a year ago, but Light was the one who wrote Takeda's name first.
I don’t enjoy the near arc as much as the L arc, but Light had to die. There was no other proper way to end it except maybe to apprehend him, but then that would’ve been anticlimactic.
He'd also gone so far off the rails he would only accept death. They tried to take him in, but he fought back even when it was impossible to change the situation
Near arc = checker's game with near cheating to win. L arc = 3d chess with magic spells. You see each move just before it happens not 4 moves in advance.
THIS is the L/near difference. L used linear and sacrifice tactics to bring Kira down (whom victory ultimately defeated) L put his life on the line over and over again. He knew his man, he wanted proof. To gain proof he needed truth. With Kira putting fake rules into his death note L made a fatal error by taking it as his truth. Three shinigami we used to achieve the win. The one who save Mia, Ryuk who was used, and Rem who was manipulated into saving Mia again sacrificing herself to kill Watari and L. Had Ryuk not been accommodating to Kira he would have been caught long before L revealed himself.
Kira defeated L fair and square
TAke in consideration that Kira made ama geniuse unbelievable plan that worked even tough he lost his memories
And he was working infront of L the whole time
Kira has deceived L and the whole police and neutralized the FBI all without even accepting the shinigami eyes deal
You people need to stop ass-kissing L and admit the truth as it is
@@user-ls7pt2fd9l I'm not discounting Kira's genius, L figured him out but was tricked by Ryuk putting fake rules in the death note. L outmanuvered him, captured him and his lieutenant Mia, imprisoned them, and forced light to relinquish the note. Kira accounted for his capture and planned it out, using Rem to kill both L and Watari. Kira won this battle but ultimately lost because of 2 taunts and this victory.
Taunt 1, the killing of Taylor on local TV.
2. His experimenting on modes of death with the note revealing the shinigami as real.
Now onto N and M, these 2 worked as a team to bring him down. The 2 years between them put Kira into a sense of........ absolute control of everything, he had defeated L, Watari, and Rem in one move! He could do ANYTHING!!! N and M moved around the board testing Kira. Ultimately M sacrificed himself to bit by bit tear down all but Mia as allies to Kira. Those two years he became too attached to Mia and refused to sacrifice her, instead turning to a man that in his arrogance left the death note exposed enough to be swapped out revealing Light as Kira.
Kira,L,M,N are to a one genius level intellects. L had his man, he caught him fair and square. Kira then used an external entity REM to bust free of the lock. Last successors M and N played off each other, one dying to put Kira in checkmate.
@@brianjohnson5272
Your words are repetitive my bro
And we are talking subjectively about Kira and L here not n And m
Again Kira outsmarted and killed L fair and square
L didn’t know shit about Kira
He only doubts him cause he clearly saw how much of geniuse he is and it is probably the first time in his life he sees someone on the same level as him
If L really figured out light is Kira he would have never let him go out on any circumstance even after light looses his memory on purpose to deceive him
Kira had orchestrated the perfect plan to take down L
And he did that without sacrificing anything
Except rem I mean how much better does it get ?
Killing fake L was a plot needed kill
The author had to make this move to hook us to the story and to start the rivalry between Kira and L
Someone said the beauty of near was that he was similar to light when light was at his smartest just not evil. Search a video called “the boy who cornered god”. Also both L and Light lost to someone who was 17 😅
It should of been mello,he was different from l & near but his character was wasted.still I enjoyed the ending
Mello was suppose to win but they changed it to near.
@@Thetopnoobpro smh
8:38 Light became stupid and sloppy because the author ran out of ideas, it was all just done because people feel you can't even let the "villain" win. They could've been a better way of ending this masterpiece
If we saw the story of Near and mello before L vs Light we would have liked them.
After finishing death note I finally understood what plot armor meant
haha same
Deku from my hero academia
Bring in Near and Mello, bring back Naomi Misora rather than killing her right away. Let her be the final keypiece that Light does not calculate. Copying a fake note name by name in a single night all the while you are able TO ACCESS A FUCKING BANK SAFETY DEPOSIT. In a week it would have been hard. I love the (was it second?) Japanese live action adaption where L writes his own name to defeat Kira, going to one more investigation before dying 3 weeks later himself. That ending makes infinitely more sense
That's an interesting perspective and makes a lot of sense
Glad I could provide!
Near is around 18 in the second half so he's not a child. He's just short and wears pajamas all the time.
There is a four year time skip after L's death and the first time we see Near and Mello.
It's during this time that Mello joins the mafia and rises to the top and Near has to re-start the KIRA investigation FROM SCRATCH.
People think that Near "cheated" because he used L's information but this is not true. Everything L learned was purposely deleted by Watari to prevent the info leaking to Kira.
The only thing Near knew was 1. Kira exists and 2. The real L is dead and while L did prove that Kira existed by the time Near is introduced into the story the existence of Kira
is just blatantly obvious to even the general public which is of course what Light wanted since he wants to be a god. L's death was the bigger clue.
I think Near suspected the second L of being Kira from the very beginning. It was just a matter of finding concrete evidence to prove that in order to "win the game".
Am I the only one who enjoyed the anime all the way throughout. I did not find unenjoyable and feel like light lost because L gave near all the info he needed like he was ahead of the game and plus at this point light was cocky, felt no real threat he underestimated near and believed he was untouchable
While I find how it was presented lacking, that reasoning that goes into his defeat is what I enjoyed. I just think it could have been explored in a more engaging way
I guess the RUclips algorithm decided to show me the wrong kind of things. I think it's pretty ridiculous to assume that not only was Gevanni able to steal the real Death Note (a flawless bank heist), but also copy its entirety (including the ~5 years that Light used it) AND return the fake one in its place, all in a single night. Not only that, but Light somehow completely forgot to tell his associate to keep some real pages on him at all times just in case something like this happened.
It just doesn't make sense and makes for a bad ending imo.
I love this anime so much and I'm so glad I watched this on a whim. Now I can't get over it
My only issue is that Nier's plan was impossible, if the plan made sense it would have been much more satisfying to watch.
Light should've lost in episode 10 while L was still alive, L knew it was him but couldn't kill him because he needed evidence. Even though Light slipped up twice in one episode proving to L he was Kira, Light was very good at hiding evidence meaning that L couldn't do anything Lights lose was inevitable from the very beginning and L was a genius, predicting it in episode 5. Near wasnt close to being as good as L even with that other guy he worked with. The inly difference here is that Light was conered do to L's investigations. He had to work there and contact near because he was in a horrible position even after killing L. None of this was Nears doing but all L's. RIP L you were a true genius
Idk what I think about it.Most of the anime evolved around light.Maybe if L was in the beginning it would have been obvious who the main character is,but then killing him made it obvious that light was.Then he dies to N.It does not matter cause the death note will eventually fall in the wrong hands again.This anime will have no end until all Shinigami die they solved the problem with light but not the death note.So if the anime ends here I'll be quite confused
Finally a thinking man that deserves my respect
I havnt found someone who spoke on it, and it's bugging me because I know there isn't any flaws but...When Mikami went to the bank off schedule to write Tadakas name in the real Death Note that led to Lights downfall, how did Near come to the conclusion that a fake Death Note was involved? As far as Near is concerned Mikami could have went to the bank, written Tadakas name in the Death Note (fake Near replaced) and placed it in the bank, because they replaced it immediately with another fake, there was no time to check Mikami briefcase again
Light absolutely deserved to lose, yes. Any other ending would make no sense. But the WAY he lost was bullshit. I want to read the manga just to learn if somehow the anime omitted crucial details.
I’m here cause I just finished it and miss it already. What a masterpiece
Even though I don't enjoy the second arc as much, it is such an enjoyable show overall still
We're just not gonna talk about how its impossible to copy down all the death note names in one day.
If light and mikami were really smart mikami would have had a piece of the death note somewhere else and light would have won. But at the same time if light is alive the series would have to continue and they wanted it to end. Soon the end light lost to plot.
They just got cocky. Light didn't think he needed to be that careful for crafty anymore, because after L he "won"
Yeah he gave himself away on a certain episode I believe when L was asking him questions
What's always pissed me off about DeathNote is the Light did not kill L! He got someone to do it for him on such basis he should have been terrified that there were 2 people at or around L's level coming for his life his kingdom! This should have sent Light in to a type of fight for his life that dwarfed his fight with L; but they didn't make the story that way. It was written to slowly make Light more incapable even if he tried. Lets remember these 2 children were "imperfect" L's so if we saw prime Light like in season one, but now recognized these people as legitimate threats he might've faired better. On the other hand simply because he couldn't out smart L (L would never give his real name to anyone and was smart enough to keep away from those with the eyes of the shinigami) without giving up half his life but he didn't want to so there we have it. Light lost because the story required him to lose or more like wanted him to lose. Now I'm no genius but if I had the ability to kill with a book you could damn well believe I'd never trust it with anyone else Light didn't either but the story conveniently forced him to rely on independent variables another marker of his down fall. In other word the: cunning skilled capable conniving tinkering maniacal Light Yagami left it up to Luck. Which I will always call bullshit on he'd never leave it up to luck. Unless he could accurately guess what might happen like he always wears a watch, or how like any innocent person wrongfully imprisoned he would try and prove his innocence or if your drowning you'll try to swim and save yourself it just makes sense. Watching Light post L is like watching Einstien get Alzheimer's. It hurts them sure but it hurts you more because at some point your the only one able to see its getting worse.
And what's worse is mere minutes before he gets shot he bets it all on bad bluff and some cheap lies
Light got overconfident because he set up that plan to lose his memories and the manga implied that he even already set up the plan to have rem kill L if misa doesn’t remember L’s real name before he lost his memories. It’s not that much of a surprise that Light would think he’s unbeatable after going through all the trouble in defeating who to him was the only person that had a chance of beating him.
The near arc felt rushed and thrown together. Also, the way near wins is very unlikely
the 5 yr free reign def got into his head. but i still chose to believe Near cheated and used the DN
I've never looked much into the theories myself, but it's true he very well could have. I also see L's message to him mentioned a lot, as another reason for how easy it was. I always just accepted that Light got sloppy, because that's what was most prevalent in the presentation to me
Honestly the manga did that arc way better. The ending was different, it wasn't as rushed, although most of the details were the same the anime skipped over a lot of information which is a big part of what made the story so good in the first place. As for Near, a lot of people dislike him because he's basically a discount L but I always felt that that wasn't fair, L was over 30, Near wasn't even 17 yet, of course he's going to feel like a lesser, and personally I feel like the approach of Near + Mello make a potentially better L than the original was a better approach than if they had just randomly thrown in a successor that was just as good or better than L anyway. In short, I think it was a more than satisfactory arc. But definitely not as good as the original.
It's very weird hearing that people hate that arc/those characters when while it was actually on tv and shortly after, people (at least teenagers in the part of texas i live in) people fucking loved them!
Hope they do a prequel about L sort-out other cases before Kira case... or Near has L against a new Kira support with Light has new Shinigami without his past human live memories...
Woah just found the channel keep up the great work
The near melo arc was dope
I did enjoy the final arc the most out of the entire anime. Also where the hell are two little L's in the terrible adaptation that gave me nightmares?
I don't like how "two little L's" sounds at all lol
@@ProfessorViral me either. But hey, when life gives you lemons - you bite into them like an apple.
There’s no way you enjoyed the arc way better
I kinda love Near arc.
It has potential, I do just think it needed more time
@@ProfessorViral That I can agree with
I think the fact that Near is so hated and Mello actually had a decent fanbase is proof that the fans never really cared about a battle of intellect it was always about the pride for most people, they wanted to know who could win not who should
Give the second season:
1. A bigger focus on wammys house.
2. A bigger focus on the transformation of the world.
3. A greater amount of episodes.
Honestly just more episodes and it probably would have been fine. They were making another battle of the minds in half the time, which just wasn't possible, and made Lights devolution feel rushed
i actually ended up finishing only the manga for this series and not the anime funny enough. honestly i didn't feel much of a drastic shift when reading the manga and idk if that's up to what was lost in adaptation or if the second arc just worked for me so i wasn't jarred by it like many other people were. who knows but it's interesting to think about
near created an exact copy of the deathnote in one night thats BS Iight shouId have won
Exactly! Makers went overboard with their obsession to make near win in the end. They should've written something atleast believable.
@@Tatakhae the ending was Iight defeating I but shonen pushed for more manga and the creator was basicaIIy forced to create the near part which is why its so SIoppy the true ending is Iight defeating I and going on to be the god of the new worId KIRA
legit just watched a video that explained how its impossible for Near to win (i support that one) (yes i support Light)
lol never understood why people complain about the Near Arc it was enjoyable as much as the rest.
Lol sometimes i wish l and light became best friends
They almost were when Light lost his memories...
they really were when Light was just Light L says himself Light was his only real friend