@@attackontitanfollower Honestly looking back I think Lilith was actually right and I think she truly would have kept her word to us the player. I don't think she would have bothered us afterwards and she truly wanted the conflict to end. We made the wrong choice in my eyes.
@@attackontitanfollower I am not so sure about that, dude. She is the creator of mankind afterall and has a vested interest in Sanctuary. She never helped her Uncles and Father with their purges.
The irony of this is that he was 4 steps ahead if you think about it. He kills your horse, tries to lure you into his side, keeps telling you he will be an enemy soon, then leads you to the Cathedral of Hate just to be in the stone to get into the mortal realm, and possibly then convince Neyrelle not go to Lorath and run away. While his plan had a lot of luck it is paying off. He will be the next real boss in the next expansion.
@@parsian5919 The craziest part is literally lillith warning us that this would happen and still we're like "Nah you're worse" Boy are we about to find out the hard way.
@@hustle_simmons Lilith: "My children, i warn you that Mephisto, the Lord of Goddamn Hatred itself and my father who i know VERY well, is manipulating you into destroying yourselves and lying to you to mistrust me, who is trying to save you all from him. I am trying to eliminate him permanently so that literally 1/3rd of Hell becomes our allies to fight off the inevitable, incoming other 2/3ds that we're going to need all the allies we can get to persevere and win over so that humanity can finally be truly safe." Wanderer: "No! Grandpa doggo is right because he's a doggo! Doggo says you must die!" Lilith: "...I'm starting to see why Inarius feels nothing but disdain for our creations."
Not to mention that it was in fact an archangel, along with his angelic host who nearly caused the extinction of the human race. Something, which demons never really did or even planned to.
@@STALKER777LK Yes, reliable. Bloodied Wolf offers help several times in the story, and is pretty forthcoming about everything including his real identity. He doesn't even hide to Wanderer that the alliance is temporary and they will be enemies again at some point.
@@raistlin3462 think a little further. HE put us there from the start HE knew and used us Mephisto is literally the most Cunning being in the franchise, his honesty is an act used to create a false sense of trust, because he wanted to.
I feel like as the lord of destruction itself, Baal might actually be outright strongest. Diablo probably has a middle ground between cunning and power, which makes him so dangerous.
Baal is the strongest. Diablo is considering the most dangerous because a, he cannot feel fear, and b, he’s in the middle. He’s stronger than Mephisto and crafter than Baal.
@@icantsleepman every official blizzard source has always said the same: diablo is the most powerful, and the most patient and cunning one. mephisto is the weakest, but the best tactician. and baal is pretty much in the middle. stronger than mephisto, but not as strong as diablo. thats the official lore.
Never expected the personification of hatred to be that charming and casual lmao. I'd imagine him more like ''I'll help you but better watch your tongue''
He made the order of paladin to become a blood sacrificed maniac, and he is the one who plays politics in eternal conflict. You need to be charming to sway the zealot and angels to your will.
Hatred is often insidious, growing slowly, justifying itself with righteous or pragmatic logic, making you not even realizing how deep you are going into it's clutches. Wonder how hateful and spiteful rhetoric and ideologies get spread around with folks certain of doing the right thing and so forth. This portrayal is pretty on point.
@@thisisshite not to mention diablo is also among the weakest of his brothers. He had plots and schemes out the ass in D3 so he could ascend to become the true prime evil, but we all know how that played out
And Yet, when Diablo doesn`t show up, feels like something is missing... you build a entire franchise around him and even the name of the franchise is only for him, is more important than the player, and is not there...
@@PunkJohnHC My guess is that he'll be the final boss of the final expansion. That was kind of an issue with Diablo 2 and 3. Diablo was the villain of the vanilla game, but there was always some bigger bad that posed an equal or greater threat to the world. We know that Diablo is going to come back at some point - if Andariel, Duriel and Mephisto reappeared, there's no reason Diablo can't - so I think the writers are going to make the battle with Diablo the climax of the D4 story.
The Wanderer trusting Mephi vs Lilith is the worst decision one can make. Meph is the mastermind behind the events of D1 and D2. He corrupted the zakarum from his prison(!!), defacto ruling them, sent Lazarus to secretly free diablo from his prison (which he suceeded), made diablo free baal as the dark wanderer for him, ordered baal to corrupt the world stone. He "died" (which doesnt matter cuz they get reborn anyway) but his plans were all successful. And now He's still playing everyone like a damn fiddle. 😂
Thats the Lord of Hatred for you. Someone else made a good point that he has often been the "politician" of the eternal conflict, a true manipulator. On top of that, Hatred in real life is a very insidious emotion, many people around the world succumb to it, without even knowing it, whether its through ideology or other means. Its not that surprising that hes playing everyone like a fiddle.
Not gonna lie, when I first encountered the Bloodied Wolf, I thought it was Zoltun Kulle from D3, just because the voices seemed similar and it had a grudge against the Horadrim, just as Kulle did. When it was actually revealed it was Mephisto, it actually caught me off guard.
Same voice actor, but you bring up a valid point. What if Zoltun Kulle was actually Mephisto all along? This would mean that the Nephalim Hero from D3 was his right-hand, not Astaroth. Not only that, our “hero” in D4 killed the remaining Barbarians who were fighting Baal but were trapped in Hell, instead of siding with them to escape Hell together. Also, in D2, Aedan was possessed by the very same Diablo he killed in D1. All of this has been telling us that our heroes are actually the true antagonists, because they are tools of the Prime Evils.
I honestly couldn't pick up that this was Steve Blum right away like with most of his characters, but I still loved the voice from the start just like his other characters. Amazing stuff.
It's kinda odd to think of but he is in fact the father of all humanity probably at that point ever living person can track their lineage to him..I think Lilith's death is going to have very widespread ramifications, she was out of the heavens and the hells maybe the only one who had a inkling of concern for humanity.
@@vincentsanabria According to the wiki, Elias discovered that since she had been banished to the Void, she can't come back. I don't remember seeing this discovery in game, though.
@@vincentsanabria she very likely is. the game makes a point that both her and inarius are now dead-dead. we dont know why exactly (perhaps her banishment to the void severed her connection to hell and thus her ability to be reborn there) but it seems she is dead for real this time.
Maybe because he is the incarnation of hatred. I dont think Diablo (the incarnation of terror) has any form of "fear", so it wouldnt surprise me that Mephisto has actually no hatred. Baal (Incarnation of destruction) on another hand seem to "nerf" himself because if he destroys everything and that nothing remain, he'll just destroy himself too. Baal is like the balance between Diablo and Mephisto in a way. Because he is always between them: Fear -> Hatred -> Destruction -> Fear -> Hatred... But im kinda out of topic.
what did you expect? he starts off manipulating but then falls in love with her and decides to stop being a prime evil and settle in the country side with the new found love of his life and reflect on his past actions and tries to repent?
@@sergeabt1046 exactly, seems like people are fooled too easily nowadays. only to sit and say that in the end it was only *insert a completely expectable thing which appeared to happen in the end*
If you’ve played previous games and know how soul stone works, it was obvious Mephisto had it all figured out lmao. Trapping him in the stone is exactly what he wanted
If you think about it, Mephisto probably anticipated being trapped in the soulstone. He knew that he was in danger of Lilith, and knew the prophecy was a spear of light (Soulstone) would peirce hatred (Mephisto). This way, he gets into Sanctuary and gets to influence Neyrelle and spread his corruption as he grows stronger in the soulstone.
And he didn't even lie. He promised the protagonists that using the soulstone on him would doom humanity. At first glance you might assume he is talking about Lilith, when in actuality, he is talking about his free ticket to Sanctuary.
Damn Mephisto being a master of manipulation in the whole game. The outcome was his plan all along. We can already say Neyrelle being Mephisto's vessel in the DLC or in D5
With how Mephisto acts in this game, it makes sense why he's the one who acted as a delegate when he visited the Angiris Council at the end of the Sin War.
They played around a little with the demon trying to save the world and the angel wanting to destroy it. If any artist out there, would be fun to see fan art of Lilith in angel-form and the angel in demon-form.
Not all hatred is rage. The quite, tranquil fury if arguably worse; those afflicted by it commit their vengeance carefully, methodically, and with eyes wide open.
Come on Nyrelle, have you not learnt the lesson and tragic story of Adian the Dark Wanderer and Tal Rasha? Carrying the Soul Stone with you shall only have one ending. Your eventual death and ruin, and the revival of the Lord of Hatred!
That's what I'm saying atleast one of the expansions will probably be us having to kill her and put mephisto back in his hell Cucoon we took him outta.
Mephisto: Oh, no. I’m defeated and my essence is divided and with no way into sanctuary and probably going to be absorbed by one of my siblings again. What I’m going to do? Wouldn’t it be convenient if an Ungrateful Daughter and a Foolish Angel I really hate escaped from Hell into Sanctuary, reinvigorate their Cults and conveniently kill each other while some traitorous liutenent ended trapped in a Soulstone some foolish Mortal would use to take into Santuary? But that would be difficult. And if either Inarious or Lillith survives. I would be in a really woozy then….Unless some nice hero would do me the favor of killing the survivor. That hero ridding that horse over there seems nice. Would be a shame if that horse died, that would leave the poor Hero with need for someone to point him the way to go…..
One thing I asked myself a while back, Angels and Demons in the Diablo universe can't die, their souls just manifest new bodies... So what's the point of fighting?
That's why it's the "Endless Conflict". Although Angels can be corrupted and the songs their give rise to their rebirth have been increasingly filled with discordant notes.
They are fighting for control over the world stone. They all want to make their own ideal worlds, but they need the world stone to make and maintain them.
Oh I see it happening as well. Genius thinks she can walk around with a Prime Evil's soulstone without consequences. Zero heros have succeeded in keeping one long term so why the heck did she think lugging one across an ocean was a brilliant idea.
True, i just dont give a single idea why protagonist believed Mefisto. He said - "If she get my essence then Sanctuary is lost". But why would she destroy this world if she is the one who created it.???
The only scene it's missing is the one within a replication of Travincal from the city of Kurast. It's also playing the Travincal zone soundtrack composed by Matt Uelmen.
Bro Imagine the final boss of the expansion being all prime evils working together. Mephisto: “Brothers, for ages to come we have been battling the blasted angels of the high heavens to secure our rightful places in this world, to control what was meant to be ours. Yet with every action, every battle, every scheme we fall short of victory. And because of this we have turned against each other, called each other out for our weaknesses and sought to undermine and overthrow each other. Why? Because we are doomed to fail? No… it is because of our failure to comprehend the true threat of the eternal conflict, mortals. They may seem insignificant but through time and again they have managed to contain us in ways not thought possible. So today we stand before one of those mortals who have once again managed to decimate our armies, thwart our plans, and meet us face to face. But no more shall we be cast aside by mortals the likes of you.” Mephisto: “For we the Prime evils of Hatred-“ Baal: “Destruction-“ Diablo: “and Terror…” All three: “ Cast you into oblivion!”
i dont understand the logic of the game, when Diablo can be resurrected multiple time (of course), then in D4 we got Andariel and Duriel appear as boss, Mephisto for sure will comeback as we see at the end, his soul or essence still recover in hell, and even an Optional Boss like Astaroth even we kill him at atc II he still appear in Hell like nothing happen and making joke with Lilith - mean that all of them cant be killed for good, unless their essence was consumed by other, as we see Lilith want to consume Mephisto - BUT when we defeat Lilith they say she is dead?
Damn i think mephisto planed everything from the beginning from helping the little girl with opening the portal to many other things just to be trapped in the soul stone and have more freedom... sho knows maybe he used his daughters to and Elias for this master plan... Aizen 2.0..
I just wonder what would've happened if you joined Mephisto. So sad you had no option to choose whether to join him or Lilith. ^^ But I loved his role there. Since he's a tactican. I am sure he planned to get trapped into the soulstone.
The best manipulator doesn’t use lies but as much truth as possible to persuade the other side, he doesn’t give any promises. He said it himself that they’ll be enemies again in the future. However one could say if they set him free right then and there Mephisto would’ve just killed or corrupt them instantly. Very cunning indeed, just as how the devil in Christianity often lure people to sin with proposals of achieving something greater than god.
-dumb main character: why are you helping me mephisto: so you can stop lilith.. -dumb main character: why are you helping me mephisto: so you can stop lilith.. -dumb main character: why are you helping me mephisto: so you can stop lilith.. -dumb main character: why are you helping me mephisto: so you can stop lilith.. -dumb main character: why are you helping me mephisto: so you can stop lilith.. -dumb main character: why are you helping me mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
Diablo 5 and Diablo 4 Mephisto DLC Theory I believe in the Mephisto DLC, the Wanderer will ally with a Nephilim to defeat Mephisto, Baal, and Diablo. However, the Nephilim is actually one of Lilith's followers and a friend of Elias. Events after the DLC, the "evil" Nephilim worked to defeat the Prime Evils and ensured their total control and rule over Sanctuary creating an Empire as a result. Other nations began to create more Nephilim and Nephilim war begins in Sanctuary. Mephisto has room to manipulate the war for Diablo 5. Diablo 4 reminds us of Sanctuary's creation. Diablo 5 reminds us of Uldyssian and why the High Heavens and the Burning Hells feared the Nephilim.
Mephisto and pretty much everything felt so much darker and evil in D2, remember mephisto's voice and his speech about the burning standards of hell in D2? That was on a far different level than this.
She's going to Talk Rasha herself. That's why she said if she's right, they'll never meet again. That's why it she's taking a boat. To get back to Lut Golain(probably spelt it wrong)
@@TuthyTuts think he means she's going to do what tal rasha did. Stab soulstone into her and have some other folks seal her away in some hidden tomb somewhere
Why does Mephisto run like a wolf apart from his soul? If all this time their essences and avatars could exist separately, what was the point of locking Evil in stones at all? And in general, why did the incarnations return separately, and not as the Prime Evil? There are a lot of gaps and inconsistencies in this game.
True at the very least their power is drastically decreased but they still can contact mortals through visions and dreams. Overtime they seemingly get stronger. It's like a Crime Boss that has connections outside of prison.
as it was explained earlier, the black soulstone was what held them together via the binding spells on them and the being anchored to it. With it being destroyed the sum of all the evils as the prime became 7 separate again and are free to go about their own ends. As to how and why the avatar? I can only guess that while he is reforming and that for the duration his manifest form is reflecting how capable/strong he is in the moment.
@@Jasongy827 in her writings she described the spells and rituals she used and in Mephisto's case she remarked if she had fucked up a single thing in it she would have failed and paid a massive price for it. Otherwise she just simply marked each one and added to Zoltun's work as the anchor.
What if Neyrelle was compelled by mephisto to do the stupid thing she did? It seems like in this cinematic that her arms get affected by mephisto in the process of absorbing his essence in the soul stone. What if the whole idea of going to the tomb of Akurat(?) was mephisto manipulating and giving her that "brilliant" idea?
Mephisto represents what Lucifer would show on the outside when he's trying to sell someone a deal before suddenly showing them the fine print after they sign it.....if he is the Prime coming back in the expansion it would make sense because of the 3 Prime's his host was probably the most unremarkable he just used the current head of the council of a city he fully controlled if he wanted an Ideal vessel it would've been Khalim who was the only priest able to resist his influence fully .....Diablo used the body of Aiden the one who defeated him (which was his plan with how he setup the labyrinth) and Baal used Tal Rasha who was stupid enough to believe he had to use his own body to contain the demon .....if they'd left him alone in his crystal in that alt dimension he would've ended up with a weaker vessel
Didn’t Mephisto lure them into thinking that Lilith is the enemy when he said, if Lilith took his essence, sanctuary is lost even though Lilith’s plan is to save sanctuary from the prime evils
bro, i still cannot believe neyrelle took the soulstone containing mephisto for herself? like wtf was her plan? the horadrim were the only people capable of containing the stone and she just took it for herself. and now she's wondering why the soulstone is torturing her mind
Mephisto is the most intelligent prime demon : Diablo, Baal are just brutals. Mephisto is not as strong as them but he is the smartest. He used the death of his daughter Lilith for his own purpose. Now we must stop him in October
The best Prime. Charming, manipulative, directly upfront.
Well I actually knew some how he couldn’t be trusted but what choice did we have Lilith would of Damned us all
@@attackontitanfollower Honestly looking back I think Lilith was actually right and I think she truly would have kept her word to us the player. I don't think she would have bothered us afterwards and she truly wanted the conflict to end. We made the wrong choice in my eyes.
@@mspionage1743 but Lilith would lead hell on earth as well
@@attackontitanfollower I am not so sure about that, dude. She is the creator of mankind afterall and has a vested interest in Sanctuary. She never helped her Uncles and Father with their purges.
@@mspionage1743 but yet she had her followers do satanic blood rituals and summoning demons from hell
I like how he talks about saving us from the cold but if you go back you can see that the one who killed our first horse was him to begin with.
He had to get our attention somehow
The irony of this is that he was 4 steps ahead if you think about it. He kills your horse, tries to lure you into his side, keeps telling you he will be an enemy soon, then leads you to the Cathedral of Hate just to be in the stone to get into the mortal realm, and possibly then convince Neyrelle not go to Lorath and run away. While his plan had a lot of luck it is paying off. He will be the next real boss in the next expansion.
@@parsian5919 The craziest part is literally lillith warning us that this would happen and still we're like "Nah you're worse" Boy are we about to find out the hard way.
@@hustle_simmons I'd see it more like "Nah we will stop him AND you" tbh. She deserved all that came to her.
@@hustle_simmons
Lilith: "My children, i warn you that Mephisto, the Lord of Goddamn Hatred itself and my father who i know VERY well, is manipulating you into destroying yourselves and lying to you to mistrust me, who is trying to save you all from him. I am trying to eliminate him permanently so that literally 1/3rd of Hell becomes our allies to fight off the inevitable, incoming other 2/3ds that we're going to need all the allies we can get to persevere and win over so that humanity can finally be truly safe."
Wanderer: "No! Grandpa doggo is right because he's a doggo! Doggo says you must die!"
Lilith: "...I'm starting to see why Inarius feels nothing but disdain for our creations."
Welcome to Diablo 4, where Angels stab you in the back and Prime Evils are reliable allies.
Not to mention that it was in fact an archangel, along with his angelic host who nearly caused the extinction of the human race. Something, which demons never really did or even planned to.
thats copuld be the tagline for the franchise, but unfortunatly the deamons usally find a way to breeak free in the end.
"""""""reliable"""""""
@@STALKER777LK
Yes, reliable. Bloodied Wolf offers help several times in the story, and is pretty forthcoming about everything including his real identity.
He doesn't even hide to Wanderer that the alliance is temporary and they will be enemies again at some point.
@@raistlin3462 think a little further.
HE put us there from the start
HE knew and used us
Mephisto is literally the most Cunning being in the franchise, his honesty is an act used to create a false sense of trust, because he wanted to.
Mephisto is the craftiest of the Prime Evils,Diablo might be the strongest,Ba'al the most vicious...but Mephisto doesnt get the credit he deserves.
Concordo plenamente
I feel like as the lord of destruction itself, Baal might actually be outright strongest. Diablo probably has a middle ground between cunning and power, which makes him so dangerous.
Baal is the strongest. Diablo is considering the most dangerous because a, he cannot feel fear, and b, he’s in the middle. He’s stronger than Mephisto and crafter than Baal.
@@icantsleepman every official blizzard source has always said the same: diablo is the most powerful, and the most patient and cunning one. mephisto is the weakest, but the best tactician. and baal is pretty much in the middle. stronger than mephisto, but not as strong as diablo. thats the official lore.
@@thahoule7924This guy did his homework.
Never expected the personification of hatred to be that charming and casual lmao.
I'd imagine him more like ''I'll help you but better watch your tongue''
He made the order of paladin to become a blood sacrificed maniac, and he is the one who plays politics in eternal conflict.
You need to be charming to sway the zealot and angels to your will.
Hatred is often insidious, growing slowly, justifying itself with righteous or pragmatic logic, making you not even realizing how deep you are going into it's clutches. Wonder how hateful and spiteful rhetoric and ideologies get spread around with folks certain of doing the right thing and so forth. This portrayal is pretty on point.
Well, the voice actor for Mephisto is Steve Blum so that pretty much tracks.
well written and very true.
he is a manipulator like lilith is one too. she learned good from her father
the prime evils are the true friends we met along all diablos
Is diablo is real final boss?
Bros before hoes
@@dalkongp1345yeah we only fought baal and the other dude so far, idk why is diablo considered the most feared if he’s just one of the brothers
@@thisisshite For plot reasons. The game is called after him
@@thisisshite not to mention diablo is also among the weakest of his brothers.
He had plots and schemes out the ass in D3 so he could ascend to become the true prime evil, but we all know how that played out
2:21 3:58 He is evil for sure, and definitely up to something, but I love how genuine he seems to be.
I'm all for more sassy bitch Prime Evils
I like a villain who's honest.
we'll find out in the expansion (whenever that happens)
"I've been rune farmed for ninetillionth times last era, so just do what you want honestly. Jam the stone into me, or not, I can try again whenever"
Steve Blum is not only one of the prime evils, he was the host of my childhood on Toonami. One of the best voice actors of all time
The robot guy?
@@PengwinTamer yeah
@@PengwinTameryes. 😁
@@PengwinTamer You put some fucking respect on TOM's name.
I came here to say this.
Give me bloody Wolf Mephisto as a companion. I'm positive we can trust him, he's my friend.
if not friend, why friend shaped?
Mefisto é muito educado e Cortez
Mephisto pet companion effect: Raises HATE 10% per level, increasing your damage, decreasing your defense.
let us pet the demon wolf!!!
It is cool that a diablo game doesn't use Diablo as a main focus for once, maybe he'll be the the last prime evil to appear in the game
And Yet, when Diablo doesn`t show up, feels like something is missing... you build a entire franchise around him and even the name of the franchise is only for him, is more important than the player, and is not there...
@@PunkJohnHC My guess is that he'll be the final boss of the final expansion.
That was kind of an issue with Diablo 2 and 3. Diablo was the villain of the vanilla game, but there was always some bigger bad that posed an equal or greater threat to the world. We know that Diablo is going to come back at some point - if Andariel, Duriel and Mephisto reappeared, there's no reason Diablo can't - so I think the writers are going to make the battle with Diablo the climax of the D4 story.
@@Phlebas Hope so.
For once they use the true Genius of the prime evils...Mephisto.
There's a theory that character you play in D4 is Diablo
Mom and Dad are fighting again. I want to stay with Grandpa.
Loll
The Wanderer trusting Mephi vs Lilith is the worst decision one can make.
Meph is the mastermind behind the events of D1 and D2.
He corrupted the zakarum from his prison(!!), defacto ruling them, sent Lazarus to secretly free diablo from his prison (which he suceeded), made diablo free baal as the dark wanderer for him, ordered baal to corrupt the world stone.
He "died" (which doesnt matter cuz they get reborn anyway) but his plans were all successful.
And now He's still playing everyone like a damn fiddle. 😂
trust is a funny word to use.
Thats the Lord of Hatred for you. Someone else made a good point that he has often been the "politician" of the eternal conflict, a true manipulator. On top of that, Hatred in real life is a very insidious emotion, many people around the world succumb to it, without even knowing it, whether its through ideology or other means. Its not that surprising that hes playing everyone like a fiddle.
Not really. Lilith is also pretty nasty, and the heroes think they can beat Mephisto. It's more "we don't trust you, but we can stop you."
Lots of words just to say you're simping for the she devil bitch that kills humans left and right while pretending to be their oh so loving mother.
@@John-Alighieri "simping", "she devil", dude stop riding the red pill dick.
I know he’s still evil, but I can’t not see Mephisto as a doggo now
I wanted a chance to pet him in game
@cantfakethefunkdj me too
I know he's an ancient, unspeakably horrific agent of evil...but also, cute little doggy
I like this adorable Mephidog. It looks so smart and cute.
It’s cute??? 🤣
So glad mephisto is back, its about time the prime evils restore order and start laying down the law
Ironic because the Primes are all about chaos and disorder. 😂
Not gonna lie, when I first encountered the Bloodied Wolf, I thought it was Zoltun Kulle from D3, just because the voices seemed similar and it had a grudge against the Horadrim, just as Kulle did. When it was actually revealed it was Mephisto, it actually caught me off guard.
Same voice actor, but you bring up a valid point. What if Zoltun Kulle was actually Mephisto all along? This would mean that the Nephalim Hero from D3 was his right-hand, not Astaroth. Not only that, our “hero” in D4 killed the remaining Barbarians who were fighting Baal but were trapped in Hell, instead of siding with them to escape Hell together. Also, in D2, Aedan was possessed by the very same Diablo he killed in D1. All of this has been telling us that our heroes are actually the true antagonists, because they are tools of the Prime Evils.
I honestly couldn't pick up that this was Steve Blum right away like with most of his characters, but I still loved the voice from the start just like his other characters. Amazing stuff.
It's kinda odd to think of but he is in fact the father of all humanity probably at that point ever living person can track their lineage to him..I think Lilith's death is going to have very widespread ramifications, she was out of the heavens and the hells maybe the only one who had a inkling of concern for humanity.
*Grandfather.
Lilith is mother.
Inarius is father.
She was worried about losing her future minions really
She ain’t dead anyway lol you do understand that right?
@@vincentsanabria According to the wiki, Elias discovered that since she had been banished to the Void, she can't come back. I don't remember seeing this discovery in game, though.
@@vincentsanabria she very likely is. the game makes a point that both her and inarius are now dead-dead. we dont know why exactly (perhaps her banishment to the void severed her connection to hell and thus her ability to be reborn there) but it seems she is dead for real this time.
It's ironic that the prime evil of hatred is calm and soft-spoken
All part of a bigger plan I'm sure.
Maybe because he is the incarnation of hatred. I dont think Diablo (the incarnation of terror) has any form of "fear", so it wouldnt surprise me that Mephisto has actually no hatred. Baal (Incarnation of destruction) on another hand seem to "nerf" himself because if he destroys everything and that nothing remain, he'll just destroy himself too.
Baal is like the balance between Diablo and Mephisto in a way. Because he is always between them: Fear -> Hatred -> Destruction -> Fear -> Hatred... But im kinda out of topic.
Funny he tag along with her like a companion, but in the end it's just manipulation.
what did you expect? he starts off manipulating but then falls in love with her and decides to stop being a prime evil and settle in the country side with the new found love of his life and reflect on his past actions and tries to repent?
@@sergeabt1046 exactly, seems like people are fooled too easily nowadays. only to sit and say that in the end it was only *insert a completely expectable thing which appeared to happen in the end*
Nah. She Has seald her fate... as His vessel.
If you’ve played previous games and know how soul stone works, it was obvious Mephisto had it all figured out lmao. Trapping him in the stone is exactly what he wanted
If you think about it, Mephisto probably anticipated being trapped in the soulstone. He knew that he was in danger of Lilith, and knew the prophecy was a spear of light (Soulstone) would peirce hatred (Mephisto). This way, he gets into Sanctuary and gets to influence Neyrelle and spread his corruption as he grows stronger in the soulstone.
And he didn't even lie. He promised the protagonists that using the soulstone on him would doom humanity. At first glance you might assume he is talking about Lilith, when in actuality, he is talking about his free ticket to Sanctuary.
There is a high chance that he himself made the prophecy just to stir up everyone's hatred and get free thanks to that.
Damn Mephisto being a master of manipulation in the whole game. The outcome was his plan all along. We can already say Neyrelle being Mephisto's vessel in the DLC or in D5
Or us if he’s just toying with Neyrelle until we come to help her
With how Mephisto acts in this game, it makes sense why he's the one who acted as a delegate when he visited the Angiris Council at the end of the Sin War.
To be fair to Mephisto, he never lied
Steve Blum is a great actor.
Does his form get....bigger....each time it appears?
little by little....
Like his power is growing, and he is becoming stronger if even alittle.
You know for one of the Prime evils, Miphisto is quite the reasonable lord of Hatred. Not what I expected from a lord of Hell.
At 02:16 that glyph on the ground is identical from the one in Warcraft 3, where Archimonde traces it out to destroy the mage towers.
you mean dalaran.
They played around a little with the demon trying to save the world and the angel wanting to destroy it. If any artist out there, would be fun to see fan art of Lilith in angel-form and the angel in demon-form.
How ironic, Mephisto, the embodiment of hatred, asking you to bring peace to his realm.
Not all hatred is rage. The quite, tranquil fury if arguably worse; those afflicted by it commit their vengeance carefully, methodically, and with eyes wide open.
Come on Nyrelle, have you not learnt the lesson and tragic story of Adian the Dark Wanderer and Tal Rasha? Carrying the Soul Stone with you shall only have one ending. Your eventual death and ruin, and the revival of the Lord of Hatred!
hey, atleast mephisto now has his own new vessel, diablo and baal couldn't be the only ones with possessed corpses, he wanted one aswell
Neyrelle = Sankekur 2.0.
Long may he reign, its about time the prime evils showed hell who is boss
She has the power of "THE MESSAGE" on her side.
Nothing bad can happen to her.
That's what I'm saying atleast one of the expansions will probably be us having to kill her and put mephisto back in his hell Cucoon we took him outta.
"that's a neat little trick you do, you move your mouth and I hear Steve Blum's voice come out of it"
If Prime Evil, why fren shaped?
Nyrelle heading north at 12:49 but then she was like oh shit wrong way then proceeds to head south at 13:09
5:16 this moment, when the wolf lazily clips through the bottom of the portal is a visual representation of this game’s writing.
Steve Blum’s voice is ❤.
Humanity's evil grandpa 🥲
This guy ironically uses truth to manipulate others. No wonder bellial never graduated from his school
Where can I adopt that wolf? He is adorable
Mephisto:
Oh, no. I’m defeated and my essence is divided and with no way into sanctuary and probably going to be absorbed by one of my siblings again. What I’m going to do?
Wouldn’t it be convenient if an Ungrateful Daughter and a Foolish Angel I really hate escaped from Hell into Sanctuary, reinvigorate their Cults and conveniently kill each other while some traitorous liutenent ended trapped in a Soulstone some foolish Mortal would use to take into Santuary?
But that would be difficult. And if either Inarious or Lillith survives. I would be in a really woozy then….Unless some nice hero would do me the favor of killing the survivor. That hero ridding that horse over there seems nice. Would be a shame if that horse died, that would leave the poor Hero with need for someone to point him the way to go…..
It’s all fine and dandy till diablo finds out his big bro is in a funny blue gem
We need a Mephisto boss fight....this year ? or a continuation of the story? though it seems the dlc could have a part of it.
That doggy could of been Diablo, but Mephisto steps in knowing Diablo always gets his ass kicked?
could have
Well, it’s his daughter…
Diablo is a bat, Baal is a howl and Mephisto is a worlf.
a human holding the stone we all know the consequence
“Am not Lord of Hatred! Am Heckin’ Doggo!! >;D”
And that’s how we all were tricked into helping the Lord of Hatred
4:39
One thing I asked myself a while back, Angels and Demons in the Diablo universe can't die, their souls just manifest new bodies... So what's the point of fighting?
the point is the Friends We Made Along the Way... I guess...
That's why it's the "Endless Conflict". Although Angels can be corrupted and the songs their give rise to their rebirth have been increasingly filled with discordant notes.
One, because it’s in their nature. Two, we see that there are ways around it. You can trap/contain demons and corrupt angels.
@@GunmetalRaven Eternal Conflict*
They are fighting for control over the world stone. They all want to make their own ideal worlds, but they need the world stone to make and maintain them.
What’s crazy is I didn’t even notice this was Steve Blum at first.
I hope the dlc is about imperius who still hasn’t gotten over getting his cheeks clapped by diablo
$5 she becomes possessed by Mephisto.
Oh I see it happening as well. Genius thinks she can walk around with a Prime Evil's soulstone without consequences. Zero heros have succeeded in keeping one long term so why the heck did she think lugging one across an ocean was a brilliant idea.
Immediately heard Steve Blum, that voice is so good
I still call him Spike.
mephisto is evil like his brothers.
Wait! Can anyone tell me why the player has to fight Lilith? She actually helps people fight against hell. Why are we helping Mephisto???
True, i just dont give a single idea why protagonist believed Mefisto.
He said - "If she get my essence then Sanctuary is lost".
But why would she destroy this world if she is the one who created it.???
@@Expertwashgroup he oviously lies. I wish there were an option to serve mother 😂
Then you'll be disappointed by the epilogue. They're all evil anyway, just different shades and degrees of evil
Her power corrupts.
Watch the part which the monk got eaten by the wolves. It reveals mother's true plan for the sanctuary. She doesn't care about the weak.
Aww daddy phisto just wants to help us 😊
puppy phisto 🥰
gut feeling that the dlc will be on set on the land of the rising sun
Japan?
You're actually kinda right..were going to Xiansai which is literally japanese themed
@@sy-ky_buddy4603 Pandaria 2.0? They really want the Chinese market.
@@sy-ky_buddy4603 xiansai is Chinese af, my guy.
0:30 stay awhile and listen
I prefer his voice from Diablo 2 where he gives his speech opening the portal.
Agreed. Paul Eiding did a fantastic job as D1's narrator and Mephisto in D2.
The only scene it's missing is the one within a replication of Travincal from the city of Kurast. It's also playing the Travincal zone soundtrack composed by Matt Uelmen.
Bro Imagine the final boss of the expansion being all prime evils working together.
Mephisto: “Brothers, for ages to come we have been battling the blasted angels of the high heavens to secure our rightful places in this world, to control what was meant to be ours. Yet with every action, every battle, every scheme we fall short of victory. And because of this we have turned against each other, called each other out for our weaknesses and sought to undermine and overthrow each other. Why? Because we are doomed to fail? No… it is because of our failure to comprehend the true threat of the eternal conflict, mortals. They may seem insignificant but through time and again they have managed to contain us in ways not thought possible. So today we stand before one of those mortals who have once again managed to decimate our armies, thwart our plans, and meet us face to face. But no more shall we be cast aside by mortals the likes of you.”
Mephisto: “For we the Prime evils of Hatred-“
Baal: “Destruction-“
Diablo: “and Terror…”
All three: “ Cast you into oblivion!”
Hell yeah, what a memorable fight that would be.
They're going to backstab each other again, they can't escape from their nature
Mephisto is super bad ass in this game
All of this is funny, considering Mephisto, lore wise, is known for being the master tactician. Convincing us to believe he wants "peace" lol.
It's more that for now he's the least bad option
@@ryanmoore6259 Nah, he is FAR worse than Lilith.
His voice is just incredible!
Wish they had got Col Campbell back as Mephisto.
This guy sounds better I’m sorry
Oh no... so we wouldn't get a new love story 😖🔥
Mephisto confirmed
I love the voice but that must be Steve Blum who also voiced Grunt in the Mass Effect trilogy. And Rexxar in Warcraft.
i dont understand the logic of the game, when Diablo can be resurrected multiple time (of course), then in D4 we got Andariel and Duriel appear as boss, Mephisto for sure will comeback as we see at the end, his soul or essence still recover in hell, and even an Optional Boss like Astaroth even we kill him at atc II he still appear in Hell like nothing happen and making joke with Lilith - mean that all of them cant be killed for good, unless their essence was consumed by other, as we see Lilith want to consume Mephisto - BUT when we defeat Lilith they say she is dead?
6:54
Mephisto The Odium
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Also mephisto: Don't let your hate for me blind you to common sense.
Damn i think mephisto planed everything from the beginning from helping the little girl with opening the portal to many other things just to be trapped in the soul stone and have more freedom... sho knows maybe he used his daughters to and Elias for this master plan... Aizen 2.0..
The wolf's so cute
In the book Faust, Mephistopheles first appears to faust as a black poodle
I just wonder what would've happened if you joined Mephisto. So sad you had no option to choose whether to join him or Lilith. ^^ But I loved his role there. Since he's a tactican. I am sure he planned to get trapped into the soulstone.
Now Neyrell must take the one ring to mount doom... I mean soul stone... lol
Watch her socket it to her forehead.
Ahhh this Diablo 1 and 2 music references hits to hard 💔🥹🥹
When i first heard the voice of the wolf, i REALLY thought it was Zultan Kool lol.
Did anyone else initially think the dog was Zultan Kuule, cause ya know its the same voice actor
Leaving the fate of Mephisto to be decided by an NPC seems like a lost opportunity or unimaginative design... 🤔
Where have i heard Mephisto's voice before? I think it is similar to the Green Ur-Quan from Star Control 2.
Where is tyrael?
dead as he became mortal
He is still mortal from d3 lol
Gone but not dead, he left the remaining Horadrim, this happened before Elias gone bad.
The best manipulator doesn’t use lies but as much truth as possible to persuade the other side, he doesn’t give any promises. He said it himself that they’ll be enemies again in the future. However one could say if they set him free right then and there Mephisto would’ve just killed or corrupt them instantly. Very cunning indeed, just as how the devil in Christianity often lure people to sin with proposals of achieving something greater than god.
-dumb main character: why are you helping me
mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
-dumb main character: why are you helping me
mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
-dumb main character: why are you helping me
mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
-dumb main character: why are you helping me
mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
-dumb main character: why are you helping me
mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
-dumb main character: why are you helping me
mephisto: so you can stop lilith..
F(igure runs away with a soul stone of a Prime evil in their person) Points finger and says i've seen this one before.
Diablo 5 and Diablo 4 Mephisto DLC Theory
I believe in the Mephisto DLC, the Wanderer will ally with a Nephilim to defeat Mephisto, Baal, and Diablo. However, the Nephilim is actually one of Lilith's followers and a friend of Elias. Events after the DLC, the "evil" Nephilim worked to defeat the Prime Evils and ensured their total control and rule over Sanctuary creating an Empire as a result. Other nations began to create more Nephilim and Nephilim war begins in Sanctuary. Mephisto has room to manipulate the war for Diablo 5. Diablo 4 reminds us of Sanctuary's creation. Diablo 5 reminds us of Uldyssian and why the High Heavens and the Burning Hells feared the Nephilim.
No way they fit Baal and Diablo into 1 expansion. I think each prime is gonna get their own big expansion
He's helping you because he knows you are Diablo.
I could hear steve blum before mephisto even opened his mouth
Mephisto and pretty much everything felt so much darker and evil in D2, remember mephisto's voice and his speech about the burning standards of hell in D2? That was on a far different level than this.
She's going to Talk Rasha herself. That's why she said if she's right, they'll never meet again. That's why it she's taking a boat. To get back to Lut Golain(probably spelt it wrong)
how in hell will he talk with Rasha, he's dead on Diablo2 LOD
@@TuthyTuts think he means she's going to do what tal rasha did. Stab soulstone into her and have some other folks seal her away in some hidden tomb somewhere
Man I wish they brought back the Colonel to play Mephisto.
You're too late! Hahahaha
My brothers have escaped you!
soon my buddy returns mephisto
Why does Mephisto run like a wolf apart from his soul? If all this time their essences and avatars could exist separately, what was the point of locking Evil in stones at all? And in general, why did the incarnations return separately, and not as the Prime Evil? There are a lot of gaps and inconsistencies in this game.
True at the very least their power is drastically decreased but they still can contact mortals through visions and dreams. Overtime they seemingly get stronger. It's like a Crime Boss that has connections outside of prison.
as it was explained earlier, the black soulstone was what held them together via the binding spells on them and the being anchored to it. With it being destroyed the sum of all the evils as the prime became 7 separate again and are free to go about their own ends. As to how and why the avatar? I can only guess that while he is reforming and that for the duration his manifest form is reflecting how capable/strong he is in the moment.
@@chromeshellking I still don’t get how Adria got the prime evil essence such as Baal mephisto and the lesser evil into the black soul stone
@@Jasongy827 in her writings she described the spells and rituals she used and in Mephisto's case she remarked if she had fucked up a single thing in it she would have failed and paid a massive price for it. Otherwise she just simply marked each one and added to Zoltun's work as the anchor.
Mephisto managed to corrupt the entire church of Zakarum while imprisoned in a soul stone, he seems to maintain some power even while imprisoned
If there was Diablo 5, I bet the protag in D4 will become Memphisto's vessel.
Or Neyrelle will be second Leah.
Most likely the latter will happen.
What if Neyrelle was compelled by mephisto to do the stupid thing she did? It seems like in this cinematic that her arms get affected by mephisto in the process of absorbing his essence in the soul stone. What if the whole idea of going to the tomb of Akurat(?) was mephisto manipulating and giving her that "brilliant" idea?
Mephisto represents what Lucifer would show on the outside when he's trying to sell someone a deal before suddenly showing them the fine print after they sign it.....if he is the Prime coming back in the expansion it would make sense because of the 3 Prime's his host was probably the most unremarkable he just used the current head of the council of a city he fully controlled if he wanted an Ideal vessel it would've been Khalim who was the only priest able to resist his influence fully .....Diablo used the body of Aiden the one who defeated him (which was his plan with how he setup the labyrinth) and Baal used Tal Rasha who was stupid enough to believe he had to use his own body to contain the demon .....if they'd left him alone in his crystal in that alt dimension he would've ended up with a weaker vessel
Didn’t Mephisto lure them into thinking that Lilith is the enemy when he said, if Lilith took his essence, sanctuary is lost even though Lilith’s plan is to save sanctuary from the prime evils
She is the enemy. All she was going to do was destroy the angels and turn sanctuary into another hell.
Why’s this thing look like the bear from Annihilation?
The only prime evil with common sense
bro, i still cannot believe neyrelle took the soulstone containing mephisto for herself? like wtf was her plan? the horadrim were the only people capable of containing the stone and she just took it for herself. and now she's wondering why the soulstone is torturing her mind
Mephisto is the most intelligent prime demon : Diablo, Baal are just brutals. Mephisto is not as strong as them but he is the smartest. He used the death of his daughter Lilith for his own purpose. Now we must stop him in October