The Rise of Competitive Giant Melee

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  • Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
  • Super Smash Bros. Melee has seen over two decades of competitive play, but while the world of Melee singles has been sharpened into something highly optimized and technical, it only represents a percentage of what the game has to offer, even when factoring in competitive play.
    In this video, we will explore the oft-misunderstood game mode Giant Melee, the game mode where characters are more big and meet the players who have helped push the mode to new heights in recent years.
    This video was a project I started last year that kind of ballooned as they tend to do. Much appreciation to @DarkGenex, @Miffee, Preeminent, Nicki, aMSa, puunk_, ycz and more for their contributions.
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    song list: pastebin.com/1ThcUX9h
    twitter: @wusstunes
    alt channel: @Wuss2ns
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    Additional Reading:
    Giant Rank 2024: / giantrank-the-giant-me...
    Collision 2023 Giant Melee: • Collision 2023 Giant M...
    Giant Melee Whatever: • Giant Melee Whatever
    GIANT MELEE: • GIANT MELEE
    Giant Melee Code:
    $Giant Melee
    C216E750 00000008
    7C741B78 3ABF0060
    3AC00000 1EF60024
    7C75BA14 3D80801B
    618C9060 7D8903A6
    4E800421 2C160003
    4182000C 3AD60001
    4BFFFFDC 7E83A378
    3C808017 00000000
    00:00 The Embiggening
    02:49 The Rediscovery
    05:14 To Be Big
    07:53 The Undisputed Top-Tier
    10:45 Large Developments
    11:56 The Salty Suite
    17:26 All Quiet on Giant Front
    19:14 Collision 2023
    42:30 Small Setbacks
    44:18 Invasion by Sea
    49:00 Collision 2024
    1:21:43 Capacity for Growth
    corrections: Avant La Fete was a british tournament! They just wrote it in frencch bc they're wild like that.
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Комментарии • 248

  • @wusstunes
    @wusstunes  2 дня назад +9

    Thanks for watching! Music list is in the pastebin in the video description! Also I know that Avant La Fete didn't happen in France.

  • @princessjellyfish98
    @princessjellyfish98 16 дней назад +467

    amsa's devotion to yoshi in all game modes is so admirable

    • @mrhalfsaid1389
      @mrhalfsaid1389 15 дней назад +29

      That's why he's my goat

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 15 дней назад +12

      He main yoshi in every game

    • @moosesues8887
      @moosesues8887 15 дней назад +7

      Ever made

    • @mcyogourt2071
      @mcyogourt2071 14 дней назад +1

      @@moosesues8887 I'm pretty sure he plays something else in ssbu

    • @numbers4092
      @numbers4092 10 дней назад +3

      @@moosesues8887except in ult he plays roy

  • @Oualouidji
    @Oualouidji 15 дней назад +202

    Can't wait for the 2-minute long documentary on Tiny Melee

    • @Zoler1
      @Zoler1 4 дня назад +14

      tiny ness still has giant bat, the end

  • @jepale2
    @jepale2 16 дней назад +221

    Amsa looked like he was having the time of his life in every single clip of him in collision 2023

  • @SSBMNicki
    @SSBMNicki 16 дней назад +178

    Truly gigantic. Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this, if anyone in Europe or on the NA East Coast wants to play Giant Melee with me they should hit me up!

    • @awareclueless
      @awareclueless 13 дней назад +1

      EU baby!

    • @ludvig.r3341
      @ludvig.r3341 11 дней назад +1

      Wayy not good enough but I am interested in learning!

    • @russiangenome9643
      @russiangenome9643 22 часа назад

      You were awesome and if you ever plan to make content in the future, follow the playbook of what Zain has been doing the past month.

    • @zdelrod829
      @zdelrod829 18 часов назад

      @@ludvig.r3341 Same, but I am not able to travel far, and live in SE Michigan, the home of Ginger, the 26th ranked player in SSBMRank 2023

  • @DarkGenexSmash
    @DarkGenexSmash 16 дней назад +301

    This is huge.
    Ty for having me on again after the Giga Bowser doc this is such a delight to watch. Long live Giant Melee

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  16 дней назад +23

      You're always a very good interview. Pleasure's all mine! Excited to see where the meta goes from here.

    • @zdelrod829
      @zdelrod829 16 дней назад +3

      Giga Bowser should be legal in Giant Melee. LET THE KOOPA COOK

    • @sonatab2646
      @sonatab2646 15 дней назад +1

      The big boy himself

    • @nahometesfay1112
      @nahometesfay1112 10 дней назад

      Supergiant gigabowser

    • @christianwise4227
      @christianwise4227 3 дня назад

      Heh, this is huge

  • @andrewbank4696
    @andrewbank4696 16 дней назад +65

    I love the old-school sentiment here. You can feel it in the character swaps, the gimmicks, and discovery. There's no doubt in my mind that if Nicki was around during the MLG era, they would've been a threat to Ken's #1 spot.

  • @chiliwong6311
    @chiliwong6311 16 дней назад +58

    Incredible video, fun fact: nana's AI scales with popo's percent, so she'll make better decisions the higher percent popo is when she enters attack mode

    • @heliumpai7627
      @heliumpai7627 14 дней назад +8

      Oh woah that's wild- Does that mean Ice Climbers a little better since your percent would naturally rack up more in giant mode?

    • @starp7675
      @starp7675 10 дней назад +4

      So basically the first comeback mechanic

    • @Sunny92809
      @Sunny92809 6 дней назад +4

      @@starp7675in melee it was intentionally programmed that when down in stocks you can mash out of grabs slightly more easily.

  • @Hoopryfien
    @Hoopryfien 15 дней назад +28

    36:48 "THAT TOAD IS SO BIG" fucking killed me, I love that

    • @bobthebuilder9509
      @bobthebuilder9509 15 дней назад +5

      My therapist: “Giant toad doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you”
      Giant Toad:

    • @LiliumOrientalis
      @LiliumOrientalis 15 дней назад +5

      "WHY?!"
      it's incredible

  • @rorbee
    @rorbee 16 дней назад +29

    Massive video talking about Giant Melee in the larger picture. What a humongous workload, an absolutely gargantuan task. Big thanks to you wusstunes for knocking it out of the park with these feature lengths every single time.

  • @GanonAutumn777
    @GanonAutumn777 16 дней назад +26

    My siblings,ever since melee's release will only play on giant mode only and hyrule temple,with them only playing regular sized smash when my cousins come over to visit

  • @Aflay1
    @Aflay1 16 дней назад +55

    This is it Luigi...

    • @guillaumechau6082
      @guillaumechau6082 15 дней назад +12

      remember, where there's smoke...

    • @Finikki111
      @Finikki111 15 дней назад +12

      ⁠…there’s fire!

    • @Baddaby
      @Baddaby 2 дня назад +4

      Always remember to wash your giant f0reskin Luigi!

  • @PattPlays
    @PattPlays 16 дней назад +46

    I just saw a falco hit a tipper on a reverse up tilt.... i've seen it all now..

  • @JDLupus
    @JDLupus 16 дней назад +39

    26:19 the double-jump armor just eating the stitchface made me laugh so hard

  • @jlachman381
    @jlachman381 15 дней назад +15

    15 minutes in and my brain forgot what normal size characters look like.

  • @happymonkeyfish
    @happymonkeyfish 16 дней назад +20

    26:27 Hbox wishing he didn't drop out i reckon

  • @SSB_Seal
    @SSB_Seal 16 дней назад +18

    Huge video! I've been a Giant Melee appreciator since Justin first got me to play it in his hotel room at Shine 2019, and I'm super glad to see it get more recognition through videos like this and even having multiple majors. It's especially awesome to see many friends like Justin, Preeminent, Ex-Girlfriend, and basically everyone else in this video all get featured for what they have brought to this game mode. Giant Melee is a world where the unbelievable becomes the norm, and it's up to each player to get out there and discover new things. Thanks for making this!

    • @Booksisgreat
      @Booksisgreat 6 дней назад +1

      I remember you telling me about this lol, this is rad

  • @shaynehughes6645
    @shaynehughes6645 15 дней назад +10

    36:47
    Me when I find a cool toad after it rains

  • @electricspirit3600
    @electricspirit3600 16 дней назад +14

    I think one compensation buff for ICs is that living to higher percents unlocks better CPU levels for Nana.

  • @keeislegend
    @keeislegend 7 дней назад +3

    auto play turned this on, i left it on thinking itd be a short video, an hour later im still watching, and still entertained. Cool vid

  • @splegoon4289
    @splegoon4289 16 дней назад +7

    Commentators now be like: “That was a HUUUGE upset right there!!!”

  • @JH-pe3ro
    @JH-pe3ro 10 дней назад +2

    Giant Fox vs Giant Falco has been a meme for years

  • @puunk_9240
    @puunk_9240 16 дней назад +14

    This is giant.

  • @thanks_605
    @thanks_605 15 дней назад +3

    I used to love leaving sets on giant melee, people usually don’t notice until they start the game

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 16 дней назад +62

    All because of Giga Bowser

    • @gamesincharacter5106
      @gamesincharacter5106 16 дней назад +3

      Suprised that hes not in it or bower didn’t appear in this video?

    • @Bloubz77
      @Bloubz77 16 дней назад +6

      @@gamesincharacter5106 we see giga bowser in this video

  • @Reilia_
    @Reilia_ 16 дней назад +6

    18:06 that joke is so wild. Honestly, respect

  • @gargator4888
    @gargator4888 15 дней назад +3

    I kind of want to see competitive coin battle now if players are looking at special melee for alternative rulesets

  • @GoomySmash
    @GoomySmash 16 дней назад +6

    30:35 Is the nastiest combo holy moly

  • @Shiradrenaline
    @Shiradrenaline 13 дней назад +3

    Great video with funny and lively editing. The depth of Melee is truly infinite.

  • @Zanphos
    @Zanphos 16 дней назад +4

    This was so fun! Im loving the dedication to the less lauded aspects of melees competitive community. also- unrelated. your hair looks great!!!

    • @heliumpai7627
      @heliumpai7627 14 дней назад +2

      Hehehe- yeah I gasped when I saw it, their hair is FABULOUS

  • @noved15
    @noved15 16 дней назад +6

    What?!!!!
    WHAT?!!???!
    I can not wait to learn more.

  • @Birdup__
    @Birdup__ 16 дней назад +11

    End of meleegelion

  • @DankAudioStash24
    @DankAudioStash24 4 дня назад +1

    The writing and music selection on this were awesome, thank you for making this!!

  • @riceballsmashpokemongamere1705
    @riceballsmashpokemongamere1705 8 дней назад +1

    A 1 and a half hour video about a metagame I didn't know existed?
    You had my attention, but now, you have my interest.

  • @invalidssb
    @invalidssb 16 дней назад +11

    Shout out to Puunk_ we played loads of Giant melee and he also made a fun video on giant melee :)

  • @MarMaxGaming
    @MarMaxGaming 5 дней назад +4

    Honestly, it’s a legit and fun game mode! It’s so cool that people are appreciating it as its own thing, it’s definitely entertaining!

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt 16 дней назад +12

    🅱️ig 🅱️ideo

  • @Reoko77
    @Reoko77 5 дней назад +3

    9:21
    Peach "what did the 5 fingers say to the face?"
    Pichu: "please... have mercy on my soul. I just want a chance at life. To live, laugh, learn. My family needs me. I need them. Please dont ta-
    Peach: 9:24

  • @JDLupus
    @JDLupus 16 дней назад +2

    Absolutely loved this video! Great stuff, thank you

  • @barnabasbf5417
    @barnabasbf5417 16 дней назад

    Wow amazing video! I didn’t even know these brackets existed but I already want to get my hands on it and see more brackets pop up!

  • @queuedjar4578
    @queuedjar4578 4 дня назад +1

    ganon down throw chaining puff was among the funniest things i've ever seen in melee

  • @Alex-vm6ef
    @Alex-vm6ef 15 дней назад

    Sick video man, felt a little revival of the feeling i had when i first encountered this game while watching it

  • @Mario1080p
    @Mario1080p 5 дней назад +1

    Video inspired me to try Giant Smash Ultimate with the custom balance setting I've been working on, pretty fun to go along with a feature that's local only. I just find it interesting that Ultimate's Giant characters have the same jumpsquat as normal sized ones.

  • @Antifrost
    @Antifrost 2 дня назад +2

    I see you with that Pokemon TCG music, wonderful choice there.
    I've often enjoyed both participating in and hosting more specialized tournaments, so I do know the pain of seeing so many people sign up for one only for a large chunk to not show up. Even so, stuff like this is more than just a welcome break from the standard meta. My first exposure to Giant Melee was recent, when I came across some vods here on RUclips while I was looking up clips for a different tournament, and it certainly caught my attention. I do think it has the potential to cement itself as a recurring event at tournaments, though the gears in my head are also wondering what other modes could make for interesting events as well. My thoughts immediately turned to Mini Melee, but my intuition tells me that it'd actually take away most of the factors that make Giant Melee worth playing, so I'm assuming that one's off the table.

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  2 дня назад +1

      tiny melee peach is also the best character, but in less interesting ways, is my understanding

  • @coolcool4525
    @coolcool4525 16 дней назад

    My weekly melee monday @ picante was shown at the end!!! I love running goofy side events (randoms, reverse mains, etc) so giant melee just fit right in and its mad fun! banger video :D

  • @skeletongwen
    @skeletongwen 12 дней назад +3

    Ex-Girlfriend looking like she's taking actual damage irl during the match vs Darkgenx in collision 23 is killing me
    Great video!!!

  • @aBlackMage
    @aBlackMage 15 дней назад +2

    I love "LIVE HGOD REACTION: 😐"

  • @leonblum816
    @leonblum816 8 дней назад

    Haven't seen the video yet but I already know I'm gonna LOVE it. You're the best!

  • @Maxx00
    @Maxx00 13 дней назад +1

    Another amazing doc, keep up the good work! :) (Also Pokemon TCG OST is goated)

  • @RedPandaStan
    @RedPandaStan 5 дней назад +2

    i dont play melee, but what ive gotten from various documentaries on the game is that if you do anything but the competitive stage list w no items, peach becomes broken.

  • @n0lain
    @n0lain 16 дней назад +2

    30:35 That zero to death was naaaaasty

  • @adithahsan752
    @adithahsan752 15 дней назад +3

    So are amsa and nicki the Ken and Azen of giant melee

  • @johngold42
    @johngold42 16 дней назад +9

    39:00 I had seen so much giant melee that I thought this was actually normal melee 😂

  • @xxtyphlosionxx8122
    @xxtyphlosionxx8122 16 дней назад +3

    30 seconds in and i can tell its a banger video, thank you!

  • @aidandoesmusic
    @aidandoesmusic 15 дней назад

    this vid was sick af, amazing work !!

  • @eizzah8323
    @eizzah8323 16 дней назад +6

    47:20 Avant la Fête was a British tournament, the stream mentions it's in Oxford UK

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  16 дней назад +5

      excuse me i didnt know they spoke french there

  • @Jamm7
    @Jamm7 15 дней назад +3

    Very good video, like how many cool clip there

  • @Shmeve0
    @Shmeve0 15 дней назад +3

    Amsa is my favorite melee player

  • @penny1672
    @penny1672 16 дней назад +2

    damn now i need to watch more giant melee

  • @direfox712
    @direfox712 4 дня назад +2

    7:54 Ayo, no way. Miffee is using an old wallpaper engine wallpaper I made from years ago.

  • @freeformboozler
    @freeformboozler 8 дней назад

    Giant smash is truly something special, it's like having smash 4 rage turned on at all times, and from the very little I've played in slippi it's addictive at times!

  • @demz0c_668
    @demz0c_668 14 дней назад +2

    hey ? I was wondering, does someone know where that final clip "there is so much more melee to be played" at big house comes from ? thanks

  • @RufioTheThird
    @RufioTheThird 4 дня назад

    Chapter 7 being called "All Quiet on Giant Front" is crazy

  • @vladfi1
    @vladfi1 13 дней назад +2

    Whenever they show clips of regular gameplay it looks like tiny melee.

  • @mario4154
    @mario4154 15 дней назад

    Jumpscare...
    Fantastic video though. Melee is so sick. Thank you for covering such a fun and niche part of it.

  • @AgentMufasa
    @AgentMufasa 15 дней назад +3

    You do not look like what at all I imagined you're pretty majestic ngl

  • @DtrJr
    @DtrJr 7 дней назад

    gotta love seeing josniffy and scythed at 3:41 😂

  • @GoldDragon20
    @GoldDragon20 5 дней назад

    So Giant Melee is a return to 64 combo level
    but in a larger roster
    neat!

  • @TheEssentialHughJazz
    @TheEssentialHughJazz 16 дней назад +6

    Yeah, I'm a big wusstunes fan. Giant, even

  • @Haispawner
    @Haispawner 17 часов назад

    I like how this turns Smash into Tekken with extra air time and falling hazards.

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  15 часов назад +1

      I actually felt that way too! You are almost always in range or nearly in range for a strike, your movement is more committal, combos are harder to escape, it does kind of make it more like a 3D fighter.

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner 15 часов назад

      @@wusstunes What made me think of Tekken was seeing combos where like the guy falls on his ass with really high gravity and you can kinda kick him around from your standing position before they get to land.
      Never played Tekken myself but I've seen plenty of it.

  • @sunnyzett
    @sunnyzett 16 дней назад +1

    a blessed day when a wusstunes vid driops

  • @luxinfinite1394
    @luxinfinite1394 3 дня назад

    Regardless of how either story could've ended, as a fellow gamer with a similar philosophy I am proud of Amsa and Nicki for fighting for their favorite character no matter the obstacle.

  • @namenamename390
    @namenamename390 2 дня назад

    9:23 for some reason my brain interpreted the platform as a gun pointed straight at Pichu

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  2 дня назад

      it does look like a gun out of context!

  • @Controllerhead
    @Controllerhead 10 дней назад

    What a ridiculously delightful piece of media. I have ...severe reservations about calling a niche regional curiosity and 2 side events at Collision as a "Rise of Giant Competitive Melee" but gosh the video was so well done i'm just enjoying this insanity propaganda roller coaster ride of oddness. Never in my life did i expect to watch a full length feature film sh!tpost on Giant Melee but my god Rock on Donkey Kong Samox and keep doing you and i will surely keep watching 😂

  • @Fanof-clips
    @Fanof-clips 2 дня назад

    Giant melee sounds awesome!

  • @edddy
    @edddy 9 дней назад

    11:15 I was not expecting that H*R clip

  • @dnd402
    @dnd402 3 дня назад +1

    this is so sick!

  • @atWisely
    @atWisely 15 дней назад

    I was not mentally prepared to see myself on screen, I don't remember commentating that at ALL LOL

  • @timoijas7496
    @timoijas7496 2 дня назад

    This is awesome. I love Melee

  • @myboy_
    @myboy_ 15 дней назад +2

    Let's go nicki

  • @claytonroberts1622
    @claytonroberts1622 16 дней назад

    Was not Prepared for a full face zoom on the 70 inch.

  • @savedforlater7482
    @savedforlater7482 16 дней назад +1

    I, for the life of me, cannot find the song that plays during that last match of the salty suite. I've checked the pastebin in the description and have come out of it with nothing but a headache.

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  16 дней назад +2

      its the space fisherman song

  • @Atlos769
    @Atlos769 5 дней назад

    Avant la fete is a uk tournment, it has its location on the screen

  • @corbinallen4562
    @corbinallen4562 День назад

    I saw some of your sonic the fighters content and i was wondering if you knew any good character guides online.

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  День назад

      just join the discord and check out the character channels. im working on some educational material on the game rn.

    • @corbinallen4562
      @corbinallen4562 День назад +1

      @@wusstunes will do thanks

  • @Bunkgungle
    @Bunkgungle 15 дней назад +1

    amazing video!!

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
    @diegodankquixote-wry3242 16 дней назад

    Will we get a doc about Giant DK competitive history and viability in smash 64 to Combine previous videos Essays together for one ultimate video?

  • @MarMaxGaming
    @MarMaxGaming 4 дня назад

    Pokémon trading card game ost for the win

  • @danaugust993
    @danaugust993 2 дня назад

    With all the spirits and modes in Ultimate you'd think there would be something cool like this hidden in that game as well.

  • @miniyodadude6604
    @miniyodadude6604 15 дней назад +1

    Everytime they switch to showing normal melee, the characters look so small, lmao

  • @hsf__
    @hsf__ 6 часов назад

    great vid also I love ur hair

  • @mrhalfsaid1389
    @mrhalfsaid1389 15 дней назад

    Wus, i want to know the music from roughly 1:14:56 here, it's such a vibe

  • @monikasalt
    @monikasalt 15 дней назад

    Melee easy modo can also be Project M with 3 frame buffer and auto L cancel settings on (which is how I play and it rocks)

  • @HideInYellow
    @HideInYellow 15 дней назад

    i wish all of melee was like giant melee that way i would have never touched it with a 10 foot poll

  • @tomoe7255
    @tomoe7255 16 дней назад +3

    Gotta take my time with this one, have a comment to help with the algorithm bud o/

  • @hirotrum6810
    @hirotrum6810 11 дней назад +2

    Giant Melee should just be called Melee Duplo

  • @CalzumSSBM
    @CalzumSSBM 15 дней назад +1

    47:12 Avant Le Fete was an English tournament hosted in Oxford @wusstunes 🌚

    • @wusstunes
      @wusstunes  15 дней назад

      Correction already in description @calzumssb 😊

  • @EugeneJOooOo
    @EugeneJOooOo 15 дней назад

    I would like to know the songs used in this video pls
    Preferably the one the one used in 1:15:30
    PLS THANK YOU

  • @AutumnReel4444
    @AutumnReel4444 15 дней назад +2

    "Ice Climbers gets hard countered by Samus"
    Swaps off Samus immediately.
    Legit people just gotta not have any opinion when they are doing anything that hasn't been extensively developed.

  • @austinfletchermusic
    @austinfletchermusic 16 дней назад +4

    Okay but the SSF2 Light Smash meta goes CRAAAAZY

  • @tralfazz6810
    @tralfazz6810 4 дня назад

    damn that melee is giant fr