@jasonvoorhees5640 I'm not working for them, I'm just explaining the truth of what's been happening Besides Nintendo isn't my only Target, The Gaming Community has shown its true colors on how awful it's gamers have become
@@pathologicusmaximus They've been Doing death threats towards developers, harassing anyone for having different consoles, You're not allowed to be positive anymore, Toxic behaviors, pirating/ stealing video games that are currently still being sold to the public and many more. Gooba and Jetpack made a video called The Gaming Community Is Toxic and You're welcome to check it out if you're interested. On the alternative brightside, at least there's a casual/ respectful side that just plays video games for fun.
Nintendo has always been like this. Their recent "bender" is their norm. Tried to ban rentals in the 80s. Has always abused their simps. Never be a fan of a company.
this, i dont get why people pick a corporation over a specific game or a movie? it's so parasocial, but you literally get nothing in return except an echo chamber, and hate for and against.
The simps are only recent with the millennial manchildren. Nintendo still makes good games with the occasional miss, but dare not even have one minor complain online about their games because the people who own 30 joycons will report you. They'd rather pay a subscription for games and own nothing
BIngo. Though, after the Switch stops being supported I believe we'll see supported forks of these emulators or perhaps new Switch emulators in the future. It'll be awhile though.
Its why the older emulators are more safe cause its harder to argue that Company is making money off that system or games since they no longer produce (at least the game disc/cartridge) it. Though Emulators do have their place even along side when they do have the stuff. Just make it so that you can pull the games to pc heck the controllers of the switch are like X box controllers. So there is a ready controler already that works with it.
Boycott the switch 2. That’s the only way you can let Nintendo know they messed up. If your complaining or not happy about Nintendo‘s actions and you’re still buying their new products, then you’re letting them know they can keep bullying as they please. Please don’t be like the call of duty fan base.
@varietychan it will soon be announced / exist. OP is correct to boycott it - just look at how the masses ditched xbox one because it didn't focus on what gamers want. I think ps5 pro misses the mark too, and won't do well imo. These big companies ONLY understand profits & sales - if we don't buy their products, they might actually get the message.
A boycott will absolutely not work. Nintendo appeals to casuals, who don't really care about the online discourse surrounding emulators, if they're even aware of it. You would only be able to convince enthusiasts, and even then, only a few. Any boycott would be a drop in the bucket. I learned this trying to boycot Pokemon for a while, it just doesn't make a difference.
@@nsgames24 I've been tempted with Mario RPG (Sill have my SNES cart) Still, it's been a couple years. I'm hoping picking up a used cart will be a stick in their eye.
They wouldn't have been sued if they hadn't turned around and sold it to Sony, they were begging for it, it's simple just don't provoke them and they'll leave you alone, what are people expecting dangling a red cape in front of Nintendo?
Thank you for your work, I've been a fan of the site since 2005 💖 it would be devastating if Spriter's Resource was targeted. I also worry about KHInsider music database... We should save as much as we can on local drives.
@@sinchman1 If you buy a DVD/Blu-ray disc, you OWN it. What you do with it (as long as you aren't illegally distributing it) is your business. Same concept applies to emulation. Whether I play a switch game on my switch or via Emulator, it's none of Nintendo's business.
@@sinchman1They might legally have the right to do this, but who cares about that? This is not how the law was intended to be used, these laws were written without any conception of how they could be used today. Nintendo is more or less bullying people into submission when the people are doing completely legal things, just because they showed Nintendo gameplay in a video. That shouldn't be something Nintendo is allowed to do
You're right, but they're Nintendo's emulators. Nintendo has proven with the Switch that they can get away with, and make a massive fortune with simple emulation. They can make easy money by reselling old game ports to us. Super Mario All Stars was one of the top selling games on the Switch, and it was just three old mario games that were lazily emulated and thrown on one cartridge, all so we could repurchase the same games over and over again. The entire Nintendo Switch online service is just an emulator behind a paywall. Nintendo's reselling their old library, and they want exclusive control. There's little to no work involved, it's easy money for Nintendo.
More interesting was that it was found that the roms resold as classic games on the wii/3ds shop were the ones downloaded from the internet rather than new dumps done by nintendo.
Nintendo might develop the emulators in-house, but the FRAMEWORK for the emulators is not theirs. For example, they use iNes mappers, which are community made. Without those, NES emulation would be a whole different beast.
The biggest Nintendo RUclipsr in Germany Domtendo got also striked a few days ago from Nintendo for playing the new Zelda game :( now he needs to remove every echoes of wisdom video in 24H. Literally what’s wrong with Nintendo
A weak protection by youtube of the creators that make it. And Nintendo "Protecting" Its IP, even though it seems half the time that nintendo doesn't know what to do with said IP.
More that Trademarks should be more or less attached to the companies or person that makes them while Copyright is only there to protect a recopy of the game at least for the profit time of the game (1-3 years) and that should be for all media just so that a lot of this Copyright nonsense dies off. Only reason its so extended is cause of the few companies bribing officials to pass longer and longer times. Litterally Disney with "protect Mickey copyright extension bill".
I wouldn't do it, I would say to them instead, "I have every other person, and company, that you ripped off, as well as a long, and extensive, amount of evidence to show to the world the sheer amount of crimes that you, as well as your corporate, governmental, and criminal, buddies have all committed together, so, if you want a massive counter suit, a whole batch of criminal charges to head towards you, as well as your friends, then please, by all means, give me a reason to talk to the Prime Minister of Japan, as well as all of the heads of state that you do business with in this world, directly, and see how well that goes for you, and, if they do side with you, well, let me just say that the tipping point has been reached globally and things will change for the better for this world, understand"?
@@roxtendoyea Nintendo well within their rights in the case of going after anyone playing that Zelda leak. But going after the old stuff is where they become petty and evil.
@@Aaron-zl5gq If the emulator isn't the issue, then Nintendo wouldn't have scared Ryujinx into taking it down. It was the issue. I would have liked to have seen Ryujinx stick to their guns and keep the emulator up, as emulation is legal for all. The REAL problem is the ROM files being dumped onto the internet for all to download. If Nintendo wants to get those taken down, I have no issue with that, but the emulators themselves have a right to exist.
@@TheSixthSLoT Exactly this but somehow, so many illegal sites still exist and they still take down the emulators instead. Last time I heard they went against a website was few years ago.
that is literally how I have been. I love nintendo IPs but I have not bought any of their games since they became more and more against modding. Personally I could care less about these games now in my eyes when you buy a product specially OFFLINE SINGLE PLAYER games you have the right to be able to change it and modify it to get it working better. Their original switch (Not even 3 months out) ran most games like garbage but had the Developer stuff left in. Then they made another one which is not more advanced. Took getting an oled for MH Rise, and BotW to run very well without some lag and jitters. Meanwhile if you use a computer and know what to do you wouldnt need to buy 3 DIF CONSOLES for the same stupid games. I still have two of the 3 switches and its the original and oled cause my husband plays but I dont care and even got my husband on pc. Nintendo needs to change up treating their customers and competition like dirt. Sony is already evil enough over the years treating developers, customers, and their employees like crap. Only thing I saw nintendo doing was doing good for their employees but now i dont care both companies need reality checks.
@@larrythehedgehog I am pro freedom, means also the freedom to buy from a company hating freedom for others. But if this people complain about this issue i can't take them serious.
honestly, nintendo has lost a customer because of their horseshit, im waiting until the switch ends support, then ill hack mine to play what i missed, reverse psychology, BITCH
@@FahadAyaz it's how corporate-centric their society is. For example, they have laws in Japan that prevent renting out physical game cartridges including playing retro games in an arcade setting, because legally that's apparently cutting into the profits they can make on it. Yes, they have a law that logically would mean reselling a used copy of a physical product would cut into the original company's sales on products they no longer have in stock to sell.
Even IN Japan, Nintendo would lose, as, between the antitrust laws that have recently passed over there, and the fact that patent laws apply worldwide, between just those two things, it does not look good for them, and if someone could argue two very famous American legal cases, namely, Data East U.S.A., Inc. v. Epyx, Inc., and Capcom U.S.A., Inc. v. Data East Corp., in a way that can apply to this particular legal case, then any competent Japanese jury, and/or judge, would IMMEDIATELY toss out Nintendo's claims, and ESPECIALLY if it is proven that Nintendo was, ironically enough, in violation of the law before, and it just so happens that Nintendo tried similar tactics against Bandai Namco for its Digimon franchise, and they also lost horribly as well. However, if you try to find anything on that topic, well, Nintendo has paid a lot of people to make that information conveniently disappear, and not just from the internet. Moreover, there are also other video game companies that have had features that Nintendo had ripped off from their competitive franchises that are against Pokemon that could also be cited, as well as the fact that Nintendo has also ripped off other people, and/or groups, for things like its music in its video games, and if all of those companies work with Pocketpair, as well as its legal team, as witnesses, then Nintendo is going to cease to exist, and that, in turn, will also end the emulator issues, and the destruction of its history, not just with video games, but also with its other products as well, and what remains of Nintendo will be bought at a fire sale price. Nintendo is desperate to win because it knows that it is devoid of talent these days.
@@FahadAyaz Seems that Japan uses "first to file" rather than "first to market". Supposedly one of the patents that Nintendo filed was for throwing an object at something to capture it in an open world setting and throwing the object to release it. In other words, the mechanics used in Pokemon Legends Arceus, Scarlet, and Violet. The problem is that this mechanic was used before Nintendo in Craftopia...which was made by Pocket Pair. In other countries Nintendo might have a hard time proving infringement given that Pocket Pair could arguably be considered the ones that created this specific execution of monster capturing (though there may be other examples that came out before this). In Japan this might not matter though if their patent laws go by "first to file". It's possible that even if Pocket Pair came up with and used the idea first, that a judge might tell them that it doesn't matter and they should have filed the patent first.
Palworld isn't going anywhere, the judges in the west aren't like the corrupt ones in Japan, that crap won't fly here, the fact that Nintendo didn't apply for the patents till after Palworld was first released is grounds for an instant case dismissed
Nintendo is such a polarizing company and staying a fan is hard. One one hand I love their games and consoles. They provide so many great experiences. On the other I absolutely hate this. They hate their fans, they hate the passion produced by them.
@@Robert-nl3fd No it is not. Some people use it like that. But it is purely to reserve your games and maybe make them better with enhancements. so in short: emulation is not piracy. Downloading games that you don't have is piracy!
Ironically they're fueling more people to try emulation. The current builds are stable enough to play everything on the switch already anyway, so they've really lost before they even started.
no, switch emulation is not over, won't be paused and will continue. I mean, just because they've taken yuzu down doesn't mean i can't still use the program itself on my computer, and with a simple google search you can find a shit ton of backups of both yuzu and ryujinx. I mean, there's literally a backup on the internet archive.
No, it will continue without interruption, and Nintendo will just give up once they realize that people are going to do it, as it will mean having more and more lawsuits, and less and less funds to pay their employees, government friends, and criminal friends, as the amount of emulators and ROMs begin to rise once again, and then people will begin to see them for who they really are, and then Nintendo will c e a s e t o e x i s t because they FAAFO that the customers are the reason why they exist in the first place. Also, when people that are ACTUALLY pursuing justice get involved, and they see the FAR worse amount of crimes that Nintendo has committed, even to their own employees, including their executives, then any claims that Nintendo, and their allies, have, will mysteriously disappear. Just overload the system, folks, and make Nintendo regret their evil ways, and then work around their internal triggers for combating piracy by rewriting the code inside of said video games to get rid of the triggers in said coding in said video games, and you will fix the problem.
How is Nintendo allowed to keep treating their fan community this DETESTABLY and keep going after emulators and fan projects alike? They are absolute tyrants for stooping this low.
Because it's their right to do so. Pay up or shut up has been Nintendo's motto with fans ever since the NES, and long time fans are fine with it. Don't like it, do something else.
@@KairuHakubiI'll say every company that is doing illegal and anti consumer thangs need to be shutdown aka Nintendo Samsung Black Rock Disney and basically any company that falls under this category
They already got a hit on their profits. And they are like they are right now because you keep boycotting them. You are not their client , you probably never even pay for a single nintendo game.
Gamers needs to hit Nintendo where it hurts the most . In their pockets. Stop buying their products. They need to learn a lesson. That Gamers is what keeps them in business . Without our money. They're nothing.
@@Thefess Literally everyone I know who complains about how modern companies are greedy all own the latest consoles and buy the latest games. They are truly brainwashed.
@@Thefess here the only ones who cry and complain are pirates like you who don't buy games, they steal them lol. when you open your wallet you too will be able to complain, but only then
@Kabullo76 *not stealing* btw. While you're over there allowing nintendo to shaft you while gargling their balls by defending them and giving them money, im perfectly happy with my pirated copies of games that have better performance and mod support than on their native console.
Forget boycotts, people need to start making the corrupt jerks that are doing this at Nintendo to one day quit going into their offices and that never enter into them ever again. When that happens to Nintendo, as well as their allies of various levels of questionable legal activity in those other places of business, often enough, then Nintendo, and their buddies, will learn to not f u c k around with their fan base/customers.
The part that sticks out the most to me about the Ryujinx takedown is how it's phrased; Nintendo "offered an agreement". That part reminds me of the 3DS slideshows leaked in the gigaleak which goes into detail about how Nintendo was borderline stalking a 3DS homebrew developer to convince him to stop. I hope for the dev's sake it wasn't a legal threat in disguise.
from my understanding Ryujinx's main dev lives in latin america. For those out of the loop, even if the country has extradition laws with the USA/EU, it is virtually impossible to get their governments to waste resources on these frivolous 'capitalist' lawsuits outside of really heinous crimes, that's the third world for you. So, if this is truly the case, chances are nintendo just wrote a very compelling check to them as they're more than aware that their lawyers have no power over there, and they learned that the hard way in the 90s.
@@MistyKathrine Some people dump their own ROMs legally and emulate just because of the superior performance, but let’s be real, most people emulate because they want to play the games for free. Let’s not kid ourselves here MistyK. Most people emulated Switch titles to avoid paying a price. The performance being better is a cherry on top.
@@Scornfull Based on the rabid flame wars that Nintendo fanboys have around this topic, I'd say it's safe to say that a great majority of Nintendo fans play on original hardware exclusively, and are completely against emulation due to Nintendo being against it. Nintendo fans tend to follow the leader, and will blindly defend the company no matter what, even if they make horrible decisions. That being the case, it's highly likely that next to none of them are figuring out how to dump their own ROM files to legally back up their games, and most of them don't want anyone else doing it either.
I feel that the only solution for Nintendo's fan hate is to stop talking/purchasing/supporting their solutions/ business decisions/ and undermining support for history of gaming. We have been proven right in backing up stuff time and time again as a fight against Lost Media and preservation of gaming/movie/music history. Examples off the top of my head - Metropolis - Doctor Who (Early Seasons) - Unreleased works - Online Storefronts/Online Play discontinued - Damaged Media/Fading Media - Low Availability in 2nd Handmarket - Overpriced in 2nd Handmarket - Studio/Music Losses due to mismanagement, no backups/duplicates, HQ Masters unavailable to public. At a certain point , the consumers (us) needs to demand a change. - Nintendo - Anti-Consumer Practices - Wizards of the Coast - AI Art, Closing Licensing - Broadcom - Price Hikes for VM Ware - Microsoft - Windows Recall, Microsoft Office Pricing - Price Gouging, (everywhere) And again, these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
@radovan_mladic It is retaliation if they don't respect the consumer why should they be respected? I don't pirate anything on a platform still supported. Unless it is PC to see how it runs on my computer. So I have not pirated any Switch games but I don't fault anyone who does. I feel the same about Hasbro as well.
Actually the best is to avoid them. There are lots of good games that deserve more players, lots of good studios that deserve more light. I don't get why N******* games are so much acclaimed. They are good, that's true. But there are lots of games as good or even better. N******'s hype really looks like a Stockholm syndrome effect.
Let's also not forget that Nintendo attacked Garry's Mod too this year. That was the last straw for me back then, and Nintendo just keeps digging a deeper grave for themselves for me as a customer. They lost themselves a customer in me, and hopefully many many others. I hope nintendos next console and games have terrible sales, and will continue to do so until this greedy legal abusing madness ends.
@@mightypancake2211 People posted models of Nintendo characters on the game's Steam Workshop. It would be like if Nintendo started going after people posting fanart.
@@fattiger6957 Nintendo stuff has always been in Gary's Mod since I played it in 2008. It only took them so long to go after it because Nintendo goes on these benders of DMCAing people once they end up winning one lawsuit [Yuzu emulator]
It only affects channels that earn money. Nintendo don't care about free channels. Free channels can post as much Nintendo stuff they want with no problem.
I'll see if I still feel this way later, but this might be the last straw for me. The more I hear the absolute bull Nintendo keeps pulling, the more I am incentivized to never support them financially again. We shall see whether that means I just don't buy anything from Nintendo, or if it means I take up sailing as a hobby...
@@kephalai Depends on what they have to offer. Maybe I'll just get one of the many Steam handhelds, especially if the specs still are better than whatever the Switch 2 ends up having. That's especially true if I decide I still want to play Nintendo games without supporting the company financially.
@@StevensSounds i'm just banking on the fact that they're so aggressively going after switch emulation means the architecture is so similar between switch 1 and 2... that it'll take very little work to modify the remaining forks of emulators to run switch 2 within months of launch... that would be hilarious
Man its funny, Anonymous went after Sony in 2011 for LESS, I am in no way calling for anyone to do anything illegal, just making an observation. Also anyone who supports Russ, I support.
As far as I know, using DMCA takedown notices to threaten people into stopping a behavior other than the actual purpose of the DMCA is not legal. Can we actually stop Nintendo from doing this? Likely not. But it is frustrating how bad the copyright system is at doing what it was made for, especially when you have to deal with international entities that don't give a damn about fair use.
Actually, we can, and I know how to get it done as well. Even Japanese laws support me. Also, if they try any funny business, then the clowns will wish that they went back to their circus by the time that the courts are done dealing with them and their shenanigans.
A trouble is that showing a game to showcase an emulator / device is not transformative (fair use) for the content of the game. It is for the emulator / device.
@@jmacncheese41 As far as I know, in the US and Canada, you can name a company, show its logo and show its product in use for the purpose of identification. If you want to demonstrate that a piece of hardware or software is capable of running popular Nintendo games, how could you do so without showing a Nintendo game running? So I believe using Nintendo game footage in a video like this would qualify as fair use. But Japan doesn't have fair use doctrines in its laws, and I hear in Japan you're supposed to ask for permission even for the purpose of identification. That said, the creation and distribution of technology that circumvents DRM is against the DMCA, and it is my understanding that fair use doctrines apply to the use of copyrighted works themselves, not to the use of DRM-circumvention technology. There still remains the argument that an emulator is a tool made to execute legitimate copies of the work, not bypass DRM to produce additional copies, and that a mere informational video about an emulator is even less related to DRM circumvention. I believe Nintendo is taking advantage of the fact the videos show footage of their games in order to make a copyright infringement claim, even though the reason they actually want the video down is because it shares information about emulators. That's what I meant when I suggested they might be taking advantage of the DMCA to stop something beyond its purpose. Obligatory PSA: I'm Canadian, and not a lawyer, and these are just theories based on my understanding of their alleged actions.
Boycott the company seems like the least we can do. They are blackmailing creators and holding their careers hostage, I think that warrants serious scrutiny.
Remember, folks. When you buy games and consoles from Nintendo, that's you saying you're okay with them doing this. If you support that company in any way you are part of the problem and nothing will ever change.
The only good Nintendo, is an emulated Nintendo. What I think we should do is go back to calling all consoles "Nintendos". No, not because I support them or anything stupid like that. But because if it becomes a common phrase, to call all consoles Nintendos, the will lose the ability to hold or enforce the copyright on that name. Look it up, back when NES was new, Nintendo had to put out a campaign to get people to stop calling every console a Nintendo(like the Sega Genesis). It wasn't because they didn't want to be associated with those other consoles. No, they loved that the name Nintendo was on everyone's lips. Then their lawyers informed them of the potential backlash of this and how they could lose the rights to the name Nintendo. So let's bring this back. The generic term for "a console" should become "a Nintendo". They want to take from us, let's take from them.
@@enjetti , it will pop back up again, and when Nintendo goes out of business, there will be private parties that will get to feast on its remains like sharks on a feeding frenzy, and one of those people, groups will get to own the Metroid franchise, and/or work with the people that hated the actions of the corrupt suits in Nintendo, to ensure that it continues to exist.
as an indie game dev studio myself, I personally want to say that the last lines Theo says in this video.... they capture my disgust for Nintendo's behavior perfectly. I agree.... Nintendo.... "F*ck you!"... your behavior and actions against the very industry you work in is unacceptable and unexcusable and you need to knock it off.
@@JakeKitsu "victim blaming" lol lol lol Since when is a thief who can no longer steal considered a victim? 😂😂😂😂 youre soooo dumb and delusional , you cant be real 🤣
@@CrazyPCgamercatguy so doing 2 quick calculations, you haven't paid for 20 years, or rather, you've been stealing the games.. considering that the gamecube is from the 2000s and the nes and nes mini are 2 mini consoles that were also bought to be used to forcefully insert roms, they are OF COURSE Nintendo will continue without you lol. I've been hearing people cry like you for 20 years and Nintendo is always better off financially lol
Any technology that has publicly ended support is open to 3rd party support/reverse engineering. Patents can be pursued but they don't hold as much water at least here in the states due to the structure of the tech laws etc. I'm not a lawyer but have been in tech 20+ years now. Nintendo just uses strong arm tactics that aren't quite illegal but they got lots of funding. If stuff made it to court you'd probably see Nintendo drop many of their grievances. Check with legal council of course and good luck. ❤️🍻
They wouldn't even care if it were illegal. Suing strategically with no grounds against people with net worths in the 100s of Ks is nothing to them. What gets me about this though is its clearly driven by the bias' of the Japanese leadership rather than real commerical interest/data driven decision making. They stand to make no extra money and lose more on payment for legal services.
I don’t know if Nintendo would say they gain nothing from it. To them, this is a worthy price to pay for maintaining absolute control over access to, and pricing for, their IPs, and therefore the ecosystem of dependence on their systems. The ability to maintain scarcity to keep demand high through lack of access, and to potentially rerelease games in the future and retain profitability if they wish. That’s what they are commercially interested in, more than immediate profits. I do agree that emulation and piracy don’t have a hugely detrimental impact on their sales however. Nintendo’s quest for control may always be a wild-goose chase that ends up dragging their reputation, and the gaming community, through the mud.
@@jxwong_3982 , there's only so far that they can take that kind of thinking, and, after a while, they're going to realize that they need customers, and, once things are exposed, then they will fall, and they will fall hard.
Nintendo brought a lot of joy to my childhood, but over the years I have continued to lose faith in them, they continue to milk the Mario, Zelda and Pokemon games, with half baked remakes and little to no innovation, and now to see them attack fans and go after completion like this with frivolous points and grasping at straws is just sad. I think that this is the end of days for nintendo really all this time and money they spend on attacking people would be better spent on making better games or even a new IP. GET A LIFE NINTENDO!
That the suits ruining everything, capitalism at its worst, they rather get lots of profits in short terms rather than having a sustainable relationship with the consumers. The reason they can and will still continue doing this shit it's because of the nintard fanboys backing them up no matter what, if 100% of their target consumers express with their wallet (NOT BUYING) they would actually take us seriously.
So who are you going to switch to? Sony the censorship kings? Xbox who doesn't care about gamers or developers, just about making money? Who's better than Nintendo? NOBODY, that's why they reign atop the industry with the most profits.
At this time, I will NEVER buy a game again from which Nintendo earns even 1 cent. It started with not buying Pokémon anymore after Game Freak did bad things, made poor choices, and ignored the community in favor of money. Now, Nintendo itself is doing the same! Using a lawyer because someone wants to buy his Patreon to play a game from Nintendo, THAT is bad. Nintendo can use a lawyer for that, but not software that has nothing to do with that kind of BS
Hey Theo. You drove home that Switch emulator development is done. It's not. Torzu is done by a bona-fide developer, who's skilled, knows what he's doing, came prepared, and has well hidden his identity. His commits are actually real, core emulation changes updates, active.
Man, it feels like 2012 youtube all over again. I remember how extremely aggressive Nintendo was back then, to the point it actively hurt their sales. Feels like history repeating itself
@@rydiavalentine , nope, it will not remain either, for it too will fall, if not for its own shadiness, then certainly for the envirotards complaining about the pollution that the manufacturing of electronics causes, as well as for the e-waste, and the batteries, also causing pollution to the world.
I've been a lifelong Nintendo fan who more recently got into the emulation/homebrew scene. This is the first time in my life that I'm legitimately starting to buy my own things and all of Nintendo's actions have truly severly decreased my devotion to the company as a whole. I also have a very small channel that I want to grow through Nintendo related videos, however that's starting to seem like a poor decision for the future more and more. TLDR, it's definitely troubling how Nintendo treats their biggest fans, and threating those who want to build a community around their passion for the company and their games. Also awesome vid 😁 Holy shit I wrote a goddamn essay my bad 😅
quick tip there bud... be careful about posting your age online, actually just never do it, nobody needs to know, and once you post it in the wrong spot e.g. on twitch. they will ban you if you even joke about being under age
@@bousch8253 Currently there is no provable, factual evidence of my age on RUclips, and I have specifically made all of my account details vague and unrevealing. Either way, I use a facecam for my videos so it's not new info. If this little comment is what does me in, I don't really give a shit. 🤷♂️
The sad thing is that this kills any future ability to go back and look at games from this area. Not that there will be many left from any other console ... It is just sad :( A bit of profit now is more important than any future preservence of this culture
wouldn't it be weird if lawyers were required to defend our rights and the letter of the law, and if they didn't and instead accepted payment to sway things on behalf of others, they'd be disbarred? Come to think of it, wouldn't it be just NUTTY if you couldn't pay someone to defend you in court any more than you can pay the cop or the judge.
Well you shouldn't be able to pay off any of the "Just A System". But that is the world we have. And don't go blaming capitalism. you can have corrupt judges in any system that you put them in. Just what sort of corrupt would they be? In this case, swayed by money. In other cases, swayed by other factors. And some cases its activism, just have to read up on it and see what is up with each one.
RUclips REALLY needs to enable region blocking at the creator level. This problem of Nintendo of Japan getting spurts of random DMCAing would go away over night. I think RUclips gave this ability to Totally Mark when he was having his spat with TOEI over reviewing Manga.
I think RUclips doesn't do it because there must be some kind of behind the scenes deal that they have with copyright holders. I imagine Nintendo and others would pull their ads if they didn't have the ability to abuse the copyright system.
@jollygoodfellow3957 the only ones abusing the copyright system in this case is Nintendo but I don't think its that deep Edit: I have a reading problem you also said they abuse the copyright system.
Every single company is rapidly becoming just like the exact same deadinside, soulless corporate cookie-cutter profiteer business. They're all just operating now on totally mindless internet data, algorithms and management school templates. Nintento has been getting overtaken by this stuff just the same as every other big company, and they will have had teams of analysts and marketing agents watching the rise and success of their company's 30-year-old properties on emulators and then they've made a campaign to as easily and cheaply re-release these old console catalogues in hi-res for Switch, now they're assassinating all the emulators and trying to stamp them out. In this case, the company happens to be Nintendo, but this is not a Nintendo thing, it's a business thing now and one school of thought and methodology of business with a sole focus on maximizing profits as much as absolutely possible over anything else is completely taking over the entire world. They give us some pathetic distraction "content" to occupy our brains, churn out mostly regurgitated ideas with a few new superficial bells and whistles and before you know it, everyone just accepts it all as normal and even actively defends it as if it's some grand new marvellous future we're progressing into.
yeah i've noticed this too and it's thoroughly depressing...I think the big issue with industries having all this software and "AI" algorithms to do everything for them is the power they now have over us...businesses seem to think they own you now if you buy anything from them.
@@tobyzilla Mario Golf GameCube emulated at 1080p compared to Mario Golf Switch has more detailed textures, more music, the courses are all more unique, and more animations for characters. They even took away Daisy's sass in that game and changed her saying "whatever" to "boo" when she goes below par
@@Kabullo76 , aw, what's wrong, did it h i t you where it h u r t ? Good, that's what happens when you dish out p u n i s h m e n t s to innocent people in their lives, you hypocrite. Also, you're not the victim, you're ironically the villain.
@@tobyzillaNintendo used to hold themselves to a absurdly high standard, which admittedly they don't feel anywhere near reaching these days. Indie dev teams will always make the more compelling product, after years of hellish development, regardless of first party quality. There're so many devs out there working incredibly hard on passion projects that it just feels inevitable. Nintendo aren't leading the pack like they used to.
My whole channel is emulation. Lol . I might be vaporized some time. Ive never made a penny on youtube. I've been here since the beginning. Not under this channel, but others too. Most got banned. Lol all these strikes.
well T S to that. The only country allowed to enforce its law across the world is America, and it's not even cool when we do it. American freedoms apply to everyone around the world, dammit. Freedoms to do anything that's not against the law. I'm pretty sure zero of what Nintendo's complaining about is actually against Japanese law.
The way Nintendo handled their digital storefront transition from Wii to Wii U proves that they know what it means to be consumer friendly. The way Nintendo handled the digital storefront transition from Wii U to Switch proves that they have made a calculated decision to no longer give an eff.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The correct response is to ignore Nintendo... If everyone who cared just stopped showing any support: don't purchase, don't play online, cancel your subscriptions, unfollow, disliked, politely tell them you are disappointed with their behavior. Just let them wither... They will end up just like Sega.
The sheer hypocrisy of Nintendo to get Ryujinx taken down when they themselves use emulation. Unlike Ryujinx, Nintendo is actually profiting from the use of emulators as a paid service incentive for their online, and no one can tell me that they actually charge for the online and that the emulation is simply a bonus when Nintendo has a higher tier model of where paying more money exclusively grants access to more emulators. offer access to more emulation. They’re 100% specifically profiting from emulation, which is the very thing they don’t want anyone else doing. They’re even profiting from emulation that isn’t Nintendo branded. Emulators are 100% legal, but the fact that they can get them taken down basically sends the message that emulators are wrong, EXCEPT for when Nintendo utilizes them. Rules for thee, but none for me. Straight up, between this, what they did to Russ, and for how they’re going about suing Palworld for a bogus patent, I honestly think Nintendo is an evil company.
I don’t think it’s doctrinally inconsistent for Nintendo to market their own emulation on Switch Online/the Nintendo Museum/elsewhere. If IP is a kind of property right then it makes logical sense for the owner to be able to manage and use their IP in their chosen ways as owner, and to bar unauthorised use of that same IP. What Nintendo is against isn’t any and all emulation, it’s unauthorised use (by others, “trespassing” on the “zone of control” they have over their IP). I don’t think that’s logically inconsistent. However, it is more inconsistent that their job offers for emulation devs state having emulation experience as being a perk for the job. How do they expect people to get that experience legally if they fight so hard to insist on the illegality of emulation? And ultimately one can acknowledge that they legally have a right-and a right has to be enforceable, otherwise it’s empty-and yet criticise their draconian enforcement of said right against fans, preservation and competitors. Nintendo isn’t any less of an abusive, control-freak IP landlord even if they have legally justified backing for what they’re doing-they always have the option not to pursue any kind of action over such cases, and they always go for the jugular.
@@TheSixthSLoT When have they gone after online Genesis emulation though? Sorry if I've forgotten, I legitimately can't recall any such instances. They may offer it on Switch Online, but that would arise from a licensing deal made with Sega to offer their IP on Switch. That does not mean Nintendo was contractually assigned the rights to said IP, and to my knowledge they have not acted in a way that gives the impression that they were.
@@jxwong_3982 That's not the point I was making by saying that. My point is that Nintendo will use emulators when they see fit, yet shut down others when it doesn't suit their interests. It's complete and total hypocrisy that they'll utilize and profit off of emulation, yet they'll stop anyone else from simply having an emulator when it hasn't gone through their paywall. I only mentioned Sega because you brought up that they're licensing their own stuff. They are not just doing that though. Them not attempting to take down a Genesis emulator is not the point. The point is that Nintendo doesn't take such a firm stance against any kind of emulation when they stand to profit from it, yet they'll try to ruin your life just for showing gameplay of something running on a Steam Deck. It's like they only want emulation to be legal when they utilize it, but emulators themselves are legal for everyone. It's complete and total hypocrisy.
@@TheSixthSLoT Sorry for the misunderstanding. What I meant with the reply was that I don't see it as logically inconsistent that Nintendo only want to go after fan emulation; that makes complete sense from the basic principles of how property works. As the owner, they want rights to use and control IP as they like, and they don't want others to do it in an unauthorised way. Not to destroy emulation as a concept. Remember, they're IP landlords, and landlords don't hate the general idea of people (or themselves) living on their property, just other people doing it without paying rent. With that said, it not being logically inconsistent or hypocritical doesn't stop it from being excessively restrictive and downright mean-spirited, or from toeing the line of what's legally acceptable (especially when the target of their legal action might have been covered by an exception within the DMCA, and able to plead that exception but for their absence of resources). I don't disagree that Nintendo are being nasty-you can have a valid legal right that you are nevertheless exercising in a totally heavy-handed way.
I'd say nintendo has always been petty and authoritarian. Remember they threw a fit over blockbuster being courteous enough to include game manuals? But yeah they're only gotten worse over the decades, frankly describing their increasingly hostile practices as 'you will play our games only the way we tell you'. Since they're fighting so hard to prevent preservation how about we give them what they want and let them fall into obscurity, there's plenty of better games that deserve to be remembered and still be playable.
Nintendo has SUCKED for years.. but everyone idolizes the child that is mr genius miyamoto, and continues to pour their money into their products (often don't deserve it). I'm just glad everyone has forcefully been reminded that they are a company first and foremost! And that they have NEVER cared about their fanbase.. just their money.
@@Kabullo76 , ironically says the delusional f a n w h o r e that is yourself, but please continue making a complete and utter j a c k a s s out of yourself, troll...I could use the laugh.
Nintendo lost me with the wii. Was a big nintendo fan before that. But the wii was the wakeup call. And it's not just the wii. Once I changed my mindset I discovered so much more crap nintedo does. It's a strange feeling people are still worshipping nintedo. I honestly don't understand why. Nintedo just makes the same games over and over and they are getting worse and worse.
We, the gaming community, deserve better from Nintendo. Their restrictive practices and disregard for fan creativity, including legal emulation, must stop. If we stand united, we can show them that their loyal fans won’t be silenced. Together, we can push for a company that respects its community!
Dude, Nintendo sucks now. It has sucked for a while. And that hurts coming from an ex-huge Nintendo fan. I believe the Nintendo that I knew and love died with Satoru Iwata...And Reggie leaving was the final nail in their coffin. They have no more joy or creativity, all they have now is lawsuits.
@@cherubin7th Sure mate...He was behind the BS video takedowns, the watered down games, Nintendo Switch's crappy online service. He also killed my goldfish and unplugged my television, all from beyond the grave 🙄
@@VideoJamesNZit literally started under him smart. Fangames, tournaments and RUclips partner program all began in early 2010s wiith him as president. You just ignore this.
There will be always crazy people that will buy any Zelda/pokemon they made. They know that… I love nintendo, I have great memories playing their portable consoles like the game boy color, advance and ds/3ds but I must admit that they have always been like this, since the nes era. It hurts that the company where Satoru Iwata and Gumpei Yokoi made history is also the same company that attacks its own fans…
@@MARLONX61 , even if there are people that do so, then those numbers will be less and less and, the more and more desperate, and crazy, that Nintendo, and its allies, act, the worse that it will be for them, so just keep up the pressure and make things play out like a game of Texas Hold 'Em Poker, and they will either fold or be s t u p i d enough to play their inferior hand, and perhaps even go all in, and, boom, no more Nintendo, and no more shady allies to have their backs.
I doubt it. Most people who consume Nintendo games (i.e. children and casual fans) don't know about this controversy at all. We only do because we consume this kind of content regularly. The numbers are in their favour
If Nintendo is going to continue to act like this, then I'd like to remind everyone that it is ALWAYS morally correct to pirate Nintendo games. Don't give them a dime
I remember Nintendo making a statement in the past, something along the lines of taking the entire internet down if they could, since everything on the internet for nintendo is copyright infringement. Don't know if this statement was real, but I believe it.
Nintendo has a 99% win rate in court. If they chose to sue, it’s because they know that have something against Palworld that they can definitely win with. I’d like to see Pocket Pair win too, but it’s unlikely.
it won't get to court, nintendo is looking for a settlement and make an example out of them so fools can say that "nintendo has a big win rate in court".
@@RaAaAwrsyourEye You can be more direct with me. I know you read my comment and that you’re indirectly calling me a fool. It doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is when people decide to insult me in an ineffectual manner by not having the spine to @ me in the comments. But anyway, the facts are the facts. Nintendo does have a near perfect win rate in court, and they don’t pick court battles unless they’re positive they’re winning them. That’s exactly why they didn’t sue Palworld for copyright infringement. Even though Palworlds monsters look illegally similar to Nintendo’s monsters, they’re just different enough to be outside of Nintendo’s reach. Nintendo does their homework to know these things, so patent infringement it is. Whether or not it will be settled rather than fully fought is really up to Pocket Pair, however, I don’t see Nintendo settling for anything less than a severe penalty of some kind. History dictates that they never settle small.
Nintendo has never lost in Japan, period. They are old money and power, the peoples favorite and the governments darling. Nintendo cant let Palworld exist, especially now that theyve signed on with Sony.
That’s it. I’m done supporting Nintendo. There are so many games to play made by companies who don’t hate their fans. They’ve lost a paying customer and gained nothing- the folks who are pirating were never going to pay for games in the first place.
Not really. Almost every company has done something about as bad as this, and you'll most likely never find one that hasn't. Sony, Microsoft, Capcom, Apple, and just about every company has made at least one questionable move in recent years.
Been a follower of the Ryu jinx and yuzu emulator for a long while, and while i can see how yuzu was targeted, Ryu jinx also falling out is a major loss on some really cool emulations and tools
You can easily find the latest version for ryujinx. And to my knowledge ryujinx can play roughly 85% of current switch games or around 3500 switch games more or less 😅…i think most of the people will be happy with that many games. There wont be any updates so new games of switch wont work unless someone else make new updates for ryujinx 🤔 or on a new name... Anyway..i dont think that will stop people for pirating new switch games specifically new mario games or zelda games…its just a matter of time. And The reason why nintendo goes hard on switch emulators is most likely because Switch 2 or the next generation is coming soon. (If you think its the end for switch emulator…you’d be surprised in the next few years. Hackers/modders will take this as a challenge) I also think that Nintendo might make something like a monthly sub plan and allow you to have acess to all or “ some “ switch 1 games to the new console for something like 15.99$/month 😅 so they dont want any switch emulators 🤯
@@pokiblue5870It may still play new games. Echoes of Wisdom works with the final version of Yuzu, at least it does on my PC (5900x and RTX3080). That version is 7 months old which basically means Nintendo didn't bother changing things up to throw off emulators. The only game that's a Nintendo exclusive I'm looking forward to though is the new Mario and Luigi RPG. I'm a PC gamer first and foremost and basically every 3rd party developer now releases their games on PC. I actually only first got a switch in like 2021. My last console before that was a PS3 I bought in 2008.
Being fair with you, both emulators are flawed and kinda bad. Online play is basically non existant and they were playing with fire with the Patreon accounts with other issues. Far way from Dolphin, Duckstation or the PS2 emulator.
@@TheSixthSLoT It doesn't matter if its legal, Nintendo sues you, then you need legal representation costing 100K+. Then you need a fundraiser or to put your house on the line. Nintendo then get to go through your communications devices and servers during discovery, if your OP sec hasn't been perfect they find roms used to test the emulator used by you or a team member. Now they have grounds to sue you for distribution of copyrighted material and complaints violating the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA, each case can net thousands to hundreds of thousands per count. All the while you are going bankrupt and your life is on hold before serious court proceedings start. All of this can happen while your open source emulator is 100% original code. So you can follow a cease and desist and get an agreement from Nintendo to waive any future litigation relating to the Ryujinx project or you can spend years of your time in eye watering debt fighting scum of the earth coporate lawyers.
I wanted to buy a switch, I just saved up money, and I wasn't going to use mig flash because I'm Ukrainian and the company that manufactures this product has ties to russia, but this attitude of nintendo towards its fans repels me.
You know when Nintendo was peak gaming? Back in NES, SNES, GBC, N64, and GBA days? Yeah, that's long gone. They've fallen from grace rather quick. The Switch is a piece of trash.
There's only one simple answer: Japan has no fair use laws in their copyright laws, and Nintendo, like all Japanese companies, will use that to their advantage to take down what they don't like.
Even if they were American, what Retro Game Corps did was not fair use. Showcasing an emulator / device by showing a game is not transformative on the content of the game.
Thanks so much for your encouragement and support, Theo, it means a lot to me.
I did hear they did this because some people are emulating the switch while the switch is still *currently* being sold to the public.
Been a huge fan of yours since you had 20k~ish subscribers! gl brother , hope it all works out for the better!
@jasonvoorhees5640 I'm not working for them, I'm just explaining the truth of what's been happening
Besides Nintendo isn't my only Target, The Gaming Community has shown its true colors on how awful it's gamers have become
@@M64bros How awful has its gamers become?
@@pathologicusmaximus They've been Doing death threats towards developers, harassing anyone for having different consoles, You're not allowed to be positive anymore, Toxic behaviors, pirating/ stealing video games that are currently still being sold to the public and many more.
Gooba and Jetpack made a video called The Gaming Community Is Toxic and You're welcome to check it out if you're interested.
On the alternative brightside, at least there's a casual/ respectful side that just plays video games for fun.
Nintendo has always been like this. Their recent "bender" is their norm. Tried to ban rentals in the 80s. Has always abused their simps. Never be a fan of a company.
pretty sure in Japan they did successfully ban renting out physical games as well as allowing them to be played in a paid arcade setting.
this, i dont get why people pick a corporation over a specific game or a movie? it's so parasocial, but you literally get nothing in return except an echo chamber, and hate for and against.
The simps are only recent with the millennial manchildren. Nintendo still makes good games with the occasional miss, but dare not even have one minor complain online about their games because the people who own 30 joycons will report you. They'd rather pay a subscription for games and own nothing
They even fought the Game Genie in court. And took a rare loss on that one.
Banned streaming and videos being made of their content in early 2010s
These emulators didn't just die, they were murdered...
BIngo. Though, after the Switch stops being supported I believe we'll see supported forks of these emulators or perhaps new Switch emulators in the future. It'll be awhile though.
JIMCEY is that you?
Its why the older emulators are more safe cause its harder to argue that Company is making money off that system or games since they no longer produce (at least the game disc/cartridge) it.
Though Emulators do have their place even along side when they do have the stuff. Just make it so that you can pull the games to pc heck the controllers of the switch are like X box controllers. So there is a ready controler already that works with it.
@@tdata545 Who? I'm just making a rather dated and silly reference to Cleanprincegaming, who's channel didn't just die, but was murdered.
@@Carsonj13 It was an old Opie and Anthony character Jim Norton would do based off of Quincy an old cop drama.
Boycott the switch 2. That’s the only way you can let Nintendo know they messed up. If your complaining or not happy about Nintendo‘s actions and you’re still buying their new products, then you’re letting them know they can keep bullying as they please. Please don’t be like the call of duty fan base.
I'm already not interested in a handheld I can't keep in a normal pocket.
The Switch 2 doesn't exist
@varietychan it will soon be announced / exist. OP is correct to boycott it - just look at how the masses ditched xbox one because it didn't focus on what gamers want. I think ps5 pro misses the mark too, and won't do well imo. These big companies ONLY understand profits & sales - if we don't buy their products, they might actually get the message.
@@varietychan It absolutely does. Do you think console hardware is made on the day it comes out?
A boycott will absolutely not work. Nintendo appeals to casuals, who don't really care about the online discourse surrounding emulators, if they're even aware of it. You would only be able to convince enthusiasts, and even then, only a few. Any boycott would be a drop in the bucket.
I learned this trying to boycot Pokemon for a while, it just doesn't make a difference.
This kind of behavior is why I've stopped buying Nintendo products.
Same. It's been years now and I still have no reason or desire to go back.
haven't owned a Nintendo console since the original Wii
@@joesaiditstrueSame but since N64
@@nsgames24 I've been tempted with Mario RPG (Sill have my SNES cart)
Still, it's been a couple years. I'm hoping picking up a used cart will be a stick in their eye.
@@joesaiditstrue Before I owned a switch I hadn't had one since the SNES.
If the mechanic of "catching a pokemon" can be patented and sued for, then I'm patenting popups right away.
The money you make you should donate so that people in the open source software groups can afford lawyers.
The mount thing is more ridiculous because this concepts have been around decades ago
They wouldn't have been sued if they hadn't turned around and sold it to Sony, they were begging for it, it's simple just don't provoke them and they'll leave you alone, what are people expecting dangling a red cape in front of Nintendo?
Already done
Can you patient ads in the middle of videos, too. I'd appreciate it if someone stopped RUclips from doing that.
RUclips is at least 50% to blame here for their faulty copyright system. Enablers.
This needs more attention
True...Google could challenge this nonsense directly with Nintendont and they will probably win.
I can understand taking the video down instantly, but do not put any infringements until a sane, reasonable human being reviews the claim!
I’ve worked at The Spriter’s Resource for 20+ years and I’m terrified of Nintendo coming for us one day.
Oh yeah, I absolutely dread the day they target Spriter's Resource. And they WILL at this rate.
Can't you put your company in a country where it's harder for Nintendo to sue you?
@@TopHatLucario It’s not a company. It’s 100% free to use.
Thank you for your work, I've been a fan of the site since 2005 💖 it would be devastating if Spriter's Resource was targeted. I also worry about KHInsider music database... We should save as much as we can on local drives.
Holy crap, I think I used to know you back in the Shyguy Kingdom days.
Nintendo is such a petty company now. I'm pro preservation and emulation.
Aaaarrrrgggghhhh, matey.
How are they petty these are there properties Nintendo has the rights to do this
@@sinchman1 If you buy a DVD/Blu-ray disc, you OWN it. What you do with it (as long as you aren't illegally distributing it) is your business. Same concept applies to emulation. Whether I play a switch game on my switch or via Emulator, it's none of Nintendo's business.
"Now" is being generous. They were always petty since the 80s. They did straight up illegal business practices during the NES.
@@sinchman1They might legally have the right to do this, but who cares about that? This is not how the law was intended to be used, these laws were written without any conception of how they could be used today.
Nintendo is more or less bullying people into submission when the people are doing completely legal things, just because they showed Nintendo gameplay in a video. That shouldn't be something Nintendo is allowed to do
What’s hypocritical is that Nintendo USES emulators in their virtual console releases and not in-house made ones either.
No, they are in-house. That's why their N64 emulator sucks.
Some have been made by the external contactor M2, and those are actually good.
You're right, but they're Nintendo's emulators. Nintendo has proven with the Switch that they can get away with, and make a massive fortune with simple emulation. They can make easy money by reselling old game ports to us. Super Mario All Stars was one of the top selling games on the Switch, and it was just three old mario games that were lazily emulated and thrown on one cartridge, all so we could repurchase the same games over and over again. The entire Nintendo Switch online service is just an emulator behind a paywall. Nintendo's reselling their old library, and they want exclusive control. There's little to no work involved, it's easy money for Nintendo.
More interesting was that it was found that the roms resold as classic games on the wii/3ds shop were the ones downloaded from the internet rather than new dumps done by nintendo.
JoeBee st*pidity triggers me a lot
Nintendo might develop the emulators in-house, but the FRAMEWORK for the emulators is not theirs. For example, they use iNes mappers, which are community made. Without those, NES emulation would be a whole different beast.
The biggest Nintendo RUclipsr in Germany Domtendo got also striked a few days ago from Nintendo for playing the new Zelda game :( now he needs to remove every echoes of wisdom video in 24H. Literally what’s wrong with Nintendo
A weak protection by youtube of the creators that make it. And Nintendo "Protecting" Its IP, even though it seems half the time that nintendo doesn't know what to do with said IP.
More that Trademarks should be more or less attached to the companies or person that makes them while Copyright is only there to protect a recopy of the game at least for the profit time of the game (1-3 years) and that should be for all media just so that a lot of this Copyright nonsense dies off. Only reason its so extended is cause of the few companies bribing officials to pass longer and longer times. Litterally Disney with "protect Mickey copyright extension bill".
I wouldn't do it, I would say to them instead, "I have every other person, and company, that you ripped off, as well as a long, and extensive, amount of evidence to show to the world the sheer amount of crimes that you, as well as your corporate, governmental, and criminal, buddies have all committed together, so, if you want a massive counter suit, a whole batch of criminal charges to head towards you, as well as your friends, then please, by all means, give me a reason to talk to the Prime Minister of Japan, as well as all of the heads of state that you do business with in this world, directly, and see how well that goes for you, and, if they do side with you, well, let me just say that the tipping point has been reached globally and things will change for the better for this world, understand"?
Oh this is awesome. He deserves it
@@roxtendoyea Nintendo well within their rights in the case of going after anyone playing that Zelda leak. But going after the old stuff is where they become petty and evil.
RUclipsrs, Emulators, Indie Devs. Nintendo is just choosing violence for the shallowest of reasons.
I know right? This is just absolure bulls**t. Like, for real, Nintendo needs to friggin chill.
Emulators are not rhetorical problem lol you are delusional if you think the emulator is the issue
youre soooooo dumb and delusional 😂
@@Aaron-zl5gq If the emulator isn't the issue, then Nintendo wouldn't have scared Ryujinx into taking it down. It was the issue. I would have liked to have seen Ryujinx stick to their guns and keep the emulator up, as emulation is legal for all. The REAL problem is the ROM files being dumped onto the internet for all to download. If Nintendo wants to get those taken down, I have no issue with that, but the emulators themselves have a right to exist.
@@TheSixthSLoT Exactly this but somehow, so many illegal sites still exist and they still take down the emulators instead. Last time I heard they went against a website was few years ago.
There is only one way to handle Nintendo: ignore them, do not provide them any money, no matter what games they got.
If only there weren't droves of mindless drones who will pay Nintendo to lick their boots.
that is literally how I have been. I love nintendo IPs but I have not bought any of their games since they became more and more against modding.
Personally I could care less about these games now in my eyes when you buy a product specially OFFLINE SINGLE PLAYER games you have the right to be able to change it and modify it to get it working better. Their original switch (Not even 3 months out) ran most games like garbage but had the Developer stuff left in. Then they made another one which is not more advanced. Took getting an oled for MH Rise, and BotW to run very well without some lag and jitters.
Meanwhile if you use a computer and know what to do you wouldnt need to buy 3 DIF CONSOLES for the same stupid games.
I still have two of the 3 switches and its the original and oled cause my husband plays but I dont care and even got my husband on pc. Nintendo needs to change up treating their customers and competition like dirt. Sony is already evil enough over the years treating developers, customers, and their employees like crap. Only thing I saw nintendo doing was doing good for their employees but now i dont care both companies need reality checks.
@@larrythehedgehog I am pro freedom, means also the freedom to buy from a company hating freedom for others. But if this people complain about this issue i can't take them serious.
honestly, nintendo has lost a customer because of their horseshit, im waiting until the switch ends support, then ill hack mine to play what i missed, reverse psychology, BITCH
@@larrythehedgehog The Sony Ponies can be annoying, but no group is more ridiculously boot licking than Nintendo and the Pokémon fans.
The Palworld grounds would be considered shaky anywhere else than Japan. It makes them look like idiots.
From a legal person, what laws in Japan work in Nintendo's favour that isn't true anywhere else?
@@FahadAyaz it's how corporate-centric their society is. For example, they have laws in Japan that prevent renting out physical game cartridges including playing retro games in an arcade setting, because legally that's apparently cutting into the profits they can make on it.
Yes, they have a law that logically would mean reselling a used copy of a physical product would cut into the original company's sales on products they no longer have in stock to sell.
Even IN Japan, Nintendo would lose, as, between the antitrust laws that have recently passed over there, and the fact that patent laws apply worldwide, between just those two things, it does not look good for them, and if someone could argue two very famous American legal cases, namely, Data East U.S.A., Inc. v. Epyx, Inc., and Capcom U.S.A., Inc. v. Data East Corp., in a way that can apply to this particular legal case, then any competent Japanese jury, and/or judge, would IMMEDIATELY toss out Nintendo's claims, and ESPECIALLY if it is proven that Nintendo was, ironically enough, in violation of the law before, and it just so happens that Nintendo tried similar tactics against Bandai Namco for its Digimon franchise, and they also lost horribly as well. However, if you try to find anything on that topic, well, Nintendo has paid a lot of people to make that information conveniently disappear, and not just from the internet. Moreover, there are also other video game companies that have had features that Nintendo had ripped off from their competitive franchises that are against Pokemon that could also be cited, as well as the fact that Nintendo has also ripped off other people, and/or groups, for things like its music in its video games, and if all of those companies work with Pocketpair, as well as its legal team, as witnesses, then Nintendo is going to cease to exist, and that, in turn, will also end the emulator issues, and the destruction of its history, not just with video games, but also with its other products as well, and what remains of Nintendo will be bought at a fire sale price. Nintendo is desperate to win because it knows that it is devoid of talent these days.
@@FahadAyaz Seems that Japan uses "first to file" rather than "first to market". Supposedly one of the patents that Nintendo filed was for throwing an object at something to capture it in an open world setting and throwing the object to release it. In other words, the mechanics used in Pokemon Legends Arceus, Scarlet, and Violet. The problem is that this mechanic was used before Nintendo in Craftopia...which was made by Pocket Pair.
In other countries Nintendo might have a hard time proving infringement given that Pocket Pair could arguably be considered the ones that created this specific execution of monster capturing (though there may be other examples that came out before this). In Japan this might not matter though if their patent laws go by "first to file". It's possible that even if Pocket Pair came up with and used the idea first, that a judge might tell them that it doesn't matter and they should have filed the patent first.
Palworld isn't going anywhere, the judges in the west aren't like the corrupt ones in Japan, that crap won't fly here, the fact that Nintendo didn't apply for the patents till after Palworld was first released is grounds for an instant case dismissed
Emulate and pirate against Nintendo even harder.
*Physical ISN'T Preservation.*
*Piracy IS Preservation.*
Overwatch and the crew are evidence of what youre saying.
@@leonfire99 true
Nintendo is such a polarizing company and staying a fan is hard.
One one hand I love their games and consoles. They provide so many great experiences.
On the other I absolutely hate this. They hate their fans, they hate the passion produced by them.
One of the reasons why we must sign the 'Stop Killing Games' petition!! It's not a lot, but it is a step in the right direction
Emulation is technically piracy😅
@@Robert-nl3fd No it is not. Some people use it like that. But it is purely to reserve your games and maybe make them better with enhancements. so in short: emulation is not piracy. Downloading games that you don't have is piracy!
Ironically they're fueling more people to try emulation. The current builds are stable enough to play everything on the switch already anyway, so they've really lost before they even started.
ronically they're fueling more people to try emulation.
lol , soooo delusional
@@Kabullo76 I can see you crusading pretty hard in these comments even though nobody cares what you're saying, so here's a cookie for you 🍪
@@ghostly5866 Yea most likely a Nintendo Boot licker who has never played a game with actual performance and graphics.
@@ghostly5866 , how about a pair of middle fingers instead? Don't waste good food on bad people.
@@ghostly5866 cry more btch 😥
Switch emulation is not over, it's just going to be paused for at least a few years.
no, switch emulation is not over, won't be paused and will continue. I mean, just because they've taken yuzu down doesn't mean i can't still use the program itself on my computer, and with a simple google search you can find a shit ton of backups of both yuzu and ryujinx. I mean, there's literally a backup on the internet archive.
No, it will continue without interruption, and Nintendo will just give up once they realize that people are going to do it, as it will mean having more and more lawsuits, and less and less funds to pay their employees, government friends, and criminal friends, as the amount of emulators and ROMs begin to rise once again, and then people will begin to see them for who they really are, and then Nintendo will c
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Nah, emulation is like a hydra. They can cut off a head, or in this case an emulator, and 3 more will take its place
@@kettothespymain8955
The Sudachi emulator is also down
The culprit this time was the toxic piracy community.
Nintendo = Yakuza of gaming. We have be warned. ⭐
Yes!
Glad someone else realizes.
@@hunger4wonder Funny enough Nintendo had its roots built with gambling and dealings with the Yakuza.
I'll continue Switch emulation on my Steam Deck
Good! We need more people like you.
good boy 🍪
You are literally proving nintendo right. Just sayin'
@@ryecatcher25 he's soooo edgy and soooo dumb
@@ryecatcher25 ok
How is Nintendo allowed to keep treating their fan community this DETESTABLY and keep going after emulators and fan projects alike? They are absolute tyrants for stooping this low.
boo hoo you cant play your illegal ROMS
I'm part of the nintendo community, and I don't feel mistreated tbh.
Because we all keep buying their shit, simple
@@jnrosenb Some slaves liked being slaves. So because you don't feel mistreated it invalidates those that do?
Because it's their right to do so. Pay up or shut up has been Nintendo's motto with fans ever since the NES, and long time fans are fine with it. Don't like it, do something else.
I'll keep saying it, it's time to Boycott Nintendo. Until they get a huge hit in their profits I doubt they will respect the consumer.
the problem is everything sucks, everybody is boycotting everything, all industries are collapsing. nobody's gonna notice which ones earned it.
@@KairuHakubiI'll say every company that is doing illegal and anti consumer thangs need to be shutdown aka Nintendo Samsung Black Rock Disney and basically any company that falls under this category
It's not necessary, their next system is gonna flop...
They already got a hit on their profits.
And they are like they are right now because you keep boycotting them.
You are not their client , you probably never even pay for a single nintendo game.
@@tobyzilla nintendo has done nothing ilegal , what are you on ?
Gamers needs to hit Nintendo where it hurts the most . In their pockets. Stop buying their products. They need to learn a lesson. That Gamers is what keeps them in business . Without our money. They're nothing.
Empty words unfortunately
@@Thefess Literally everyone I know who complains about how modern companies are greedy all own the latest consoles and buy the latest games. They are truly brainwashed.
@@Thefess here the only ones who cry and complain are pirates like you who don't buy games, they steal them lol. when you open your wallet you too will be able to complain, but only then
@Kabullo76 *not stealing* btw. While you're over there allowing nintendo to shaft you while gargling their balls by defending them and giving them money, im perfectly happy with my pirated copies of games that have better performance and mod support than on their native console.
Forget boycotts, people need to start making the corrupt jerks that are doing this at Nintendo to one day quit going into their offices and that never enter into them ever again. When that happens to Nintendo, as well as their allies of various levels of questionable legal activity in those other places of business, often enough, then Nintendo, and their buddies, will learn to not f
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The part that sticks out the most to me about the Ryujinx takedown is how it's phrased; Nintendo "offered an agreement". That part reminds me of the 3DS slideshows leaked in the gigaleak which goes into detail about how Nintendo was borderline stalking a 3DS homebrew developer to convince him to stop. I hope for the dev's sake it wasn't a legal threat in disguise.
Nintendo probably sent their historical business partners, the Yakuza, to his front door to help him "see the light".
@@MistyKathrineor gave him offer he couldn’t refuse.
from my understanding Ryujinx's main dev lives in latin america. For those out of the loop, even if the country has extradition laws with the USA/EU, it is virtually impossible to get their governments to waste resources on these frivolous 'capitalist' lawsuits outside of really heinous crimes, that's the third world for you. So, if this is truly the case, chances are nintendo just wrote a very compelling check to them as they're more than aware that their lawyers have no power over there, and they learned that the hard way in the 90s.
@@champiion They offered not to break both of his legs if he complied.
@@RaAaAwrsyourEyeanother dev claimed it was a C&D and not anything monetary or beneficial to the dev in any way
0:21 Maybe if Nintendo spent their money on improving their products instead of filing lawsuits, it wouldn't be such a problem for them...
Probably have an army of lawyers on retainer with nothing to do.
@@MistyKathrine Some people dump their own ROMs legally and emulate just because of the superior performance, but let’s be real, most people emulate because they want to play the games for free. Let’s not kid ourselves here MistyK. Most people emulated Switch titles to avoid paying a price. The performance being better is a cherry on top.
@@TheSixthSLoT I doubt it, Nintendo fans love to slobber Nintendo and they're the ones most likely to back up their games
@@Scornfull Based on the rabid flame wars that Nintendo fanboys have around this topic, I'd say it's safe to say that a great majority of Nintendo fans play on original hardware exclusively, and are completely against emulation due to Nintendo being against it. Nintendo fans tend to follow the leader, and will blindly defend the company no matter what, even if they make horrible decisions. That being the case, it's highly likely that next to none of them are figuring out how to dump their own ROM files to legally back up their games, and most of them don't want anyone else doing it either.
@@TheSixthSLoTdo you know why nobody is piracying xbox? Because it's not necessary and they still earn money...
13:28 meme of the year
They literally could make their own PC emulator that has all their titles for sale and stop ruining their reputation 24/7.
I feel that the only solution for Nintendo's fan hate is to stop talking/purchasing/supporting their solutions/ business decisions/ and undermining support for history of gaming.
We have been proven right in backing up stuff time and time again as a fight against Lost Media and preservation of gaming/movie/music history.
Examples off the top of my head
- Metropolis
- Doctor Who (Early Seasons)
- Unreleased works
- Online Storefronts/Online Play discontinued
- Damaged Media/Fading Media
- Low Availability in 2nd Handmarket
- Overpriced in 2nd Handmarket
- Studio/Music Losses due to mismanagement, no backups/duplicates, HQ Masters unavailable to public.
At a certain point , the consumers (us) needs to demand a change.
- Nintendo - Anti-Consumer Practices
- Wizards of the Coast - AI Art, Closing Licensing
- Broadcom - Price Hikes for VM Ware
- Microsoft - Windows Recall, Microsoft Office Pricing
- Price Gouging, (everywhere)
And again, these are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
I'm gonna emulate even harder now
It is always moral to pirate Nintendo Software. Never legal but always moral.
Very moral
@radovan_mladic It is retaliation if they don't respect the consumer why should they be respected?
I don't pirate anything on a platform still supported. Unless it is PC to see how it runs on my computer. So I have not pirated any Switch games but I don't fault anyone who does. I feel the same about Hasbro as well.
I'd say that bad laws exist, and bad laws definitely DO exist.
Actually the best is to avoid them. There are lots of good games that deserve more players, lots of good studios that deserve more light.
I don't get why N******* games are so much acclaimed. They are good, that's true. But there are lots of games as good or even better.
N******'s hype really looks like a Stockholm syndrome effect.
you're such a retard
Let's also not forget that Nintendo attacked Garry's Mod too this year. That was the last straw for me back then, and Nintendo just keeps digging a deeper grave for themselves for me as a customer. They lost themselves a customer in me, and hopefully many many others. I hope nintendos next console and games have terrible sales, and will continue to do so until this greedy legal abusing madness ends.
Attacked Garry's mod? why?
@@mightypancake2211 People posted models of Nintendo characters on the game's Steam Workshop. It would be like if Nintendo started going after people posting fanart.
@@fattiger6957 Nintendo stuff has always been in Gary's Mod since I played it in 2008. It only took them so long to go after it because Nintendo goes on these benders of DMCAing people once they end up winning one lawsuit [Yuzu emulator]
@@mightypancake2211 to take down ALL nintendo related addons
I've seen reports that have stated a troll did it and not Nintendo
This actually sounds very familiar, Nintendo feels like 2010 Nintendo again. Nuck Fintendo
Or this RUclipsr should get a real job and stop illegally playing games
Or he needs to get a real job and stop playing games illegally
@@passivevii4052 He probably makes more money than you and no emulation isn't illegal you smoothbrain bootlicker
It only affects channels that earn money. Nintendo don't care about free channels.
Free channels can post as much Nintendo stuff they want with no problem.
@@V3ntilatoryah until that is no longer the case
Nintendo did the same to Pointcrow as well. They target people who drive Nintendo content without realising the backlash
Nintendo out here spending more time suing their fans then bringing the switch 2 to market says everything you need to know about them
I'll see if I still feel this way later, but this might be the last straw for me. The more I hear the absolute bull Nintendo keeps pulling, the more I am incentivized to never support them financially again.
We shall see whether that means I just don't buy anything from Nintendo, or if it means I take up sailing as a hobby...
I encourage you to boycott Nintendo.
you'll be back as soon as the first switch 2 trailer drops and you know it
@@kephalai Depends on what they have to offer. Maybe I'll just get one of the many Steam handhelds, especially if the specs still are better than whatever the Switch 2 ends up having.
That's especially true if I decide I still want to play Nintendo games without supporting the company financially.
@@kephalai Not me it's been 20 years since I last bought a Nintendo product. 😅
@@StevensSounds i'm just banking on the fact that they're so aggressively going after switch emulation means the architecture is so similar between switch 1 and 2... that it'll take very little work to modify the remaining forks of emulators to run switch 2 within months of launch... that would be hilarious
Man its funny, Anonymous went after Sony in 2011 for LESS, I am in no way calling for anyone to do anything illegal, just making an observation. Also anyone who supports Russ, I support.
if they don't respect the law, they can't expect others not to break it to stop them.
As far as I know, using DMCA takedown notices to threaten people into stopping a behavior other than the actual purpose of the DMCA is not legal. Can we actually stop Nintendo from doing this? Likely not. But it is frustrating how bad the copyright system is at doing what it was made for, especially when you have to deal with international entities that don't give a damn about fair use.
Laws are meaningless unless/until they are enforced.
Actually, we can, and I know how to get it done as well. Even Japanese laws support me. Also, if they try any funny business, then the clowns will wish that they went back to their circus by the time that the courts are done dealing with them and their shenanigans.
A trouble is that showing a game to showcase an emulator / device is not transformative (fair use) for the content of the game. It is for the emulator / device.
@@jmacncheese41 As far as I know, in the US and Canada, you can name a company, show its logo and show its product in use for the purpose of identification. If you want to demonstrate that a piece of hardware or software is capable of running popular Nintendo games, how could you do so without showing a Nintendo game running? So I believe using Nintendo game footage in a video like this would qualify as fair use. But Japan doesn't have fair use doctrines in its laws, and I hear in Japan you're supposed to ask for permission even for the purpose of identification.
That said, the creation and distribution of technology that circumvents DRM is against the DMCA, and it is my understanding that fair use doctrines apply to the use of copyrighted works themselves, not to the use of DRM-circumvention technology. There still remains the argument that an emulator is a tool made to execute legitimate copies of the work, not bypass DRM to produce additional copies, and that a mere informational video about an emulator is even less related to DRM circumvention.
I believe Nintendo is taking advantage of the fact the videos show footage of their games in order to make a copyright infringement claim, even though the reason they actually want the video down is because it shares information about emulators. That's what I meant when I suggested they might be taking advantage of the DMCA to stop something beyond its purpose.
Obligatory PSA: I'm Canadian, and not a lawyer, and these are just theories based on my understanding of their alleged actions.
That finger at the end was heartfelt. Love it!
Boycott the company seems like the least we can do. They are blackmailing creators and holding their careers hostage, I think that warrants serious scrutiny.
Remember, folks. When you buy games and consoles from Nintendo, that's you saying you're okay with them doing this. If you support that company in any way you are part of the problem and nothing will ever change.
It will when its leadership, and employees, change, though.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo struck this video because you had their logo on the thumbnail
The only good Nintendo, is an emulated Nintendo.
What I think we should do is go back to calling all consoles "Nintendos". No, not because I support them or anything stupid like that. But because if it becomes a common phrase, to call all consoles Nintendos, the will lose the ability to hold or enforce the copyright on that name. Look it up, back when NES was new, Nintendo had to put out a campaign to get people to stop calling every console a Nintendo(like the Sega Genesis). It wasn't because they didn't want to be associated with those other consoles. No, they loved that the name Nintendo was on everyone's lips. Then their lawyers informed them of the potential backlash of this and how they could lose the rights to the name Nintendo.
So let's bring this back. The generic term for "a console" should become "a Nintendo". They want to take from us, let's take from them.
take your med
This seems like they are prepping to launch their "next gen" console and will sell the backwards compatible games at full price.
Yah no I'm good with pc screw Nintendo and thare corrupt practices
@Goshified I thought this too. It reminds me of when AM2R was taken down prior to Samus Returns on the 3DS. We shall see, I guess.
@@enjetti , it will pop back up again, and when Nintendo goes out of business, there will be private parties that will get to feast on its remains like sharks on a feeding frenzy, and one of those people, groups will get to own the Metroid franchise, and/or work with the people that hated the actions of the corrupt suits in Nintendo, to ensure that it continues to exist.
as an indie game dev studio myself, I personally want to say that the last lines Theo says in this video.... they capture my disgust for Nintendo's behavior perfectly. I agree.... Nintendo.... "F*ck you!"... your behavior and actions against the very industry you work in is unacceptable and unexcusable and you need to knock it off.
Nintendo won me NOT giving them my hard earned money ever again.
@@CrazyPCgamercatguy As if you ever gave them money in the first place
@@JohnGo-y2p I still have my Gamecube as well as NES and SNES minis.
@@JohnGo-y2p I too enjoy victim-blaming and making sweepingly-generalized accusations of strangers online I don't even know
@@JakeKitsu "victim blaming" lol lol lol
Since when is a thief who can no longer steal considered a victim? 😂😂😂😂
youre soooo dumb and delusional , you cant be real 🤣
@@CrazyPCgamercatguy so doing 2 quick calculations, you haven't paid for 20 years, or rather, you've been stealing the games.. considering that the gamecube is from the 2000s and the nes and nes mini are 2 mini consoles that were also bought to be used to forcefully insert roms, they are OF COURSE Nintendo will continue without you lol. I've been hearing people cry like you for 20 years and Nintendo is always better off financially lol
Any technology that has publicly ended support is open to 3rd party support/reverse engineering. Patents can be pursued but they don't hold as much water at least here in the states due to the structure of the tech laws etc. I'm not a lawyer but have been in tech 20+ years now.
Nintendo just uses strong arm tactics that aren't quite illegal but they got lots of funding. If stuff made it to court you'd probably see Nintendo drop many of their grievances.
Check with legal council of course and good luck. ❤️🍻
They wouldn't even care if it were illegal. Suing strategically with no grounds against people with net worths in the 100s of Ks is nothing to them.
What gets me about this though is its clearly driven by the bias' of the Japanese leadership rather than real commerical interest/data driven decision making. They stand to make no extra money and lose more on payment for legal services.
I don’t know if Nintendo would say they gain nothing from it. To them, this is a worthy price to pay for maintaining absolute control over access to, and pricing for, their IPs, and therefore the ecosystem of dependence on their systems. The ability to maintain scarcity to keep demand high through lack of access, and to potentially rerelease games in the future and retain profitability if they wish. That’s what they are commercially interested in, more than immediate profits.
I do agree that emulation and piracy don’t have a hugely detrimental impact on their sales however. Nintendo’s quest for control may always be a wild-goose chase that ends up dragging their reputation, and the gaming community, through the mud.
@@chinogambino9375 , they will care once the people that are doing the shady things in their company begin to disappear.
@@jxwong_3982 , there's only so far that they can take that kind of thinking, and, after a while, they're going to realize that they need customers, and, once things are exposed, then they will fall, and they will fall hard.
@@chinogambino9375 , I would make them care, and they would learn to care, or they would learn what it is like to be Bernie Madoff...their call.
Just FYI, the word "Corps" is pronounced as "Core", the "-ps" is silent.
When you say "Corpse" it sounds like you're talking about a dead body lol
Hey, we should call Nintendo "Retro Game Corpse"! Lol, it would be a fitting new moniker for such a shady and evil, anti-gaming, corporation.
@@GradyKallenbach lmao that's true
Thank you, I came here to say this
@@GradyKallenbachThis is the real reason Nintendo DMCA'D. He stole their name.
could you imagine the dip in their sales when NO ONE feels safe putting Nintendo material out there
Nintendo brought a lot of joy to my childhood, but over the years I have continued to lose faith in them, they continue to milk the Mario, Zelda and Pokemon games, with half baked remakes and little to no innovation, and now to see them attack fans and go after completion like this with frivolous points and grasping at straws is just sad. I think that this is the end of days for nintendo really all this time and money they spend on attacking people would be better spent on making better games or even a new IP. GET A LIFE NINTENDO!
That the suits ruining everything, capitalism at its worst, they rather get lots of profits in short terms rather than having a sustainable relationship with the consumers. The reason they can and will still continue doing this shit it's because of the nintard fanboys backing them up no matter what, if 100% of their target consumers express with their wallet (NOT BUYING) they would actually take us seriously.
The company died with Iwata. Nobody to carry forward Yokoi's spirit.
How many games do you own for your Switch?
So who are you going to switch to? Sony the censorship kings? Xbox who doesn't care about gamers or developers, just about making money? Who's better than Nintendo? NOBODY, that's why they reign atop the industry with the most profits.
@@HebrewGamer100 , zero, as I lack one, and I've also not had a Nintendo product since the Nintendo 64.
At this time, I will NEVER buy a game again from which Nintendo earns even 1 cent.
It started with not buying Pokémon anymore after Game Freak did bad things, made poor choices, and ignored the community in favor of money. Now, Nintendo itself is doing the same!
Using a lawyer because someone wants to buy his Patreon to play a game from Nintendo, THAT is bad. Nintendo can use a lawyer for that, but not software that has nothing to do with that kind of BS
Hey Theo. You drove home that Switch emulator development is done. It's not. Torzu is done by a bona-fide developer, who's skilled, knows what he's doing, came prepared, and has well hidden his identity. His commits are actually real, core emulation changes updates, active.
Nintendo showing how to turn your strongest supporters into people who hate you and want to see you destroyed.
That's very relatable to me
sure buddy, a bunch of entitled pirates "strongest supporters" 😂
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How are pirates entitled?
@@Kabullo76 you boot licker idiot, emulation is not pirating and youb know it you pig.
@@Kabullo76 , I found the Nintendo shill!
Man, it feels like 2012 youtube all over again. I remember how extremely aggressive Nintendo was back then, to the point it actively hurt their sales. Feels like history repeating itself
They'll never learn. I'll laugh when they become another Sega. In the end, only PC will remain.
@@rydiavalentine , nope, it will not remain either, for it too will fall, if not for its own shadiness, then certainly for the envirotards complaining about the pollution that the manufacturing of electronics causes, as well as for the e-waste, and the batteries, also causing pollution to the world.
I have plenty of retro games in my backlog, feeling 0 need for anything new from Nintendo.
I've been a lifelong Nintendo fan who more recently got into the emulation/homebrew scene. This is the first time in my life that I'm legitimately starting to buy my own things and all of Nintendo's actions have truly severly decreased my devotion to the company as a whole. I also have a very small channel that I want to grow through Nintendo related videos, however that's starting to seem like a poor decision for the future more and more. TLDR, it's definitely troubling how Nintendo treats their biggest fans, and threating those who want to build a community around their passion for the company and their games.
Also awesome vid 😁
Holy shit I wrote a goddamn essay my bad 😅
quick tip there bud... be careful about posting your age online, actually just never do it, nobody needs to know, and once you post it in the wrong spot e.g. on twitch. they will ban you if you even joke about being under age
Yeah, buying first time in my life shows how old you are. People in the music industry and Hollywood are going to looking at you like fresh meat
@@bousch8253 Currently there is no provable, factual evidence of my age on RUclips, and I have specifically made all of my account details vague and unrevealing. Either way, I use a facecam for my videos so it's not new info. If this little comment is what does me in, I don't really give a shit. 🤷♂️
@@ludibroloplays you realize disney destroyed public domain bynlobbying to keep.extending copyright. Better stop watching those marvel films too.
@@bousch8253 , I will make them the fresh prey instead.
The sad thing is that this kills any future ability to go back and look at games from this area. Not that there will be many left from any other console ... It is just sad :( A bit of profit now is more important than any future preservence of this culture
wouldn't it be weird if lawyers were required to defend our rights and the letter of the law, and if they didn't and instead accepted payment to sway things on behalf of others, they'd be disbarred? Come to think of it, wouldn't it be just NUTTY if you couldn't pay someone to defend you in court any more than you can pay the cop or the judge.
Well you shouldn't be able to pay off any of the "Just A System". But that is the world we have. And don't go blaming capitalism. you can have corrupt judges in any system that you put them in. Just what sort of corrupt would they be?
In this case, swayed by money. In other cases, swayed by other factors.
And some cases its activism, just have to read up on it and see what is up with each one.
Wow, after that powerful ending my fingers couldn’t find the subscribe button fast enough! Bravo.
RUclips REALLY needs to enable region blocking at the creator level. This problem of Nintendo of Japan getting spurts of random DMCAing would go away over night. I think RUclips gave this ability to Totally Mark when he was having his spat with TOEI over reviewing Manga.
I think RUclips doesn't do it because there must be some kind of behind the scenes deal that they have with copyright holders. I imagine Nintendo and others would pull their ads if they didn't have the ability to abuse the copyright system.
@jollygoodfellow3957 the only ones abusing the copyright system in this case is Nintendo but I don't think its that deep
Edit: I have a reading problem you also said they abuse the copyright system.
13:28 pulling a Linus Torvalds.
Every single company is rapidly becoming just like the exact same deadinside, soulless corporate cookie-cutter profiteer business. They're all just operating now on totally mindless internet data, algorithms and management school templates. Nintento has been getting overtaken by this stuff just the same as every other big company, and they will have had teams of analysts and marketing agents watching the rise and success of their company's 30-year-old properties on emulators and then they've made a campaign to as easily and cheaply re-release these old console catalogues in hi-res for Switch, now they're assassinating all the emulators and trying to stamp them out.
In this case, the company happens to be Nintendo, but this is not a Nintendo thing, it's a business thing now and one school of thought and methodology of business with a sole focus on maximizing profits as much as absolutely possible over anything else is completely taking over the entire world. They give us some pathetic distraction "content" to occupy our brains, churn out mostly regurgitated ideas with a few new superficial bells and whistles and before you know it, everyone just accepts it all as normal and even actively defends it as if it's some grand new marvellous future we're progressing into.
yeah i've noticed this too and it's thoroughly depressing...I think the big issue with industries having all this software and "AI" algorithms to do everything for them is the power they now have over us...businesses seem to think they own you now if you buy anything from them.
I'm really tried of hearing about this overrated company. If their fans weren't cultists they would be forced to get off their high horse.
Honestly, I Will NEVER buy nintendo stuff ever again. The quality is so low now for everything they do...
You know it's bad when indie developers make a better game movie or animation then a multi billion dollar company
@@tobyzilla lol
@@tobyzilla Mario Golf GameCube emulated at 1080p compared to Mario Golf Switch has more detailed textures, more music, the courses are all more unique, and more animations for characters. They even took away Daisy's sass in that game and changed her saying "whatever" to "boo" when she goes below par
@@Kabullo76 , aw, what's wrong, did it h
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@@tobyzillaNintendo used to hold themselves to a absurdly high standard, which admittedly they don't feel anywhere near reaching these days. Indie dev teams will always make the more compelling product, after years of hellish development, regardless of first party quality. There're so many devs out there working incredibly hard on passion projects that it just feels inevitable. Nintendo aren't leading the pack like they used to.
My whole channel is emulation. Lol . I might be vaporized some time. Ive never made a penny on youtube. I've been here since the beginning. Not under this channel, but others too. Most got banned. Lol all these strikes.
the thing people don’t realize is there’s no fair use in japan.
it’s considered a violation of copyright there.
well T S to that. The only country allowed to enforce its law across the world is America, and it's not even cool when we do it. American freedoms apply to everyone around the world, dammit. Freedoms to do anything that's not against the law. I'm pretty sure zero of what Nintendo's complaining about is actually against Japanese law.
It doesn't matter because outside of Japan thare are fair use laws
@@KairuHakubi it isnt "freedom" when you steal something...
@@SmartZero-f8e backups of purchases is not theft.
Incorrect...and more recent Japanese law supports fair use.
And that's why I'll never buy anything Nintendo
The way Nintendo handled their digital storefront transition from Wii to Wii U proves that they know what it means to be consumer friendly.
The way Nintendo handled the digital storefront transition from Wii U to Switch proves that they have made a calculated decision to no longer give an eff.
They got rid of the Virtual Console because the Wii-U was the best way to experience it
i'm done giving nintendo my money, at least until they change their behavior
i'll be sailing the high seas for nintendo contents from now on
not again nintendo, do better
I agree with you wholeheartedly. The correct response is to ignore Nintendo... If everyone who cared just stopped showing any support: don't purchase, don't play online, cancel your subscriptions, unfollow, disliked, politely tell them you are disappointed with their behavior. Just let them wither... They will end up just like Sega.
The sheer hypocrisy of Nintendo to get Ryujinx taken down when they themselves use emulation. Unlike Ryujinx, Nintendo is actually profiting from the use of emulators as a paid service incentive for their online, and no one can tell me that they actually charge for the online and that the emulation is simply a bonus when Nintendo has a higher tier model of where paying more money exclusively grants access to more emulators. offer access to more emulation. They’re 100% specifically profiting from emulation, which is the very thing they don’t want anyone else doing. They’re even profiting from emulation that isn’t Nintendo branded. Emulators are 100% legal, but the fact that they can get them taken down basically sends the message that emulators are wrong, EXCEPT for when Nintendo utilizes them. Rules for thee, but none for me. Straight up, between this, what they did to Russ, and for how they’re going about suing Palworld for a bogus patent, I honestly think Nintendo is an evil company.
I don’t think it’s doctrinally inconsistent for Nintendo to market their own emulation on Switch Online/the Nintendo Museum/elsewhere. If IP is a kind of property right then it makes logical sense for the owner to be able to manage and use their IP in their chosen ways as owner, and to bar unauthorised use of that same IP. What Nintendo is against isn’t any and all emulation, it’s unauthorised use (by others, “trespassing” on the “zone of control” they have over their IP). I don’t think that’s logically inconsistent.
However, it is more inconsistent that their job offers for emulation devs state having emulation experience as being a perk for the job. How do they expect people to get that experience legally if they fight so hard to insist on the illegality of emulation?
And ultimately one can acknowledge that they legally have a right-and a right has to be enforceable, otherwise it’s empty-and yet criticise their draconian enforcement of said right against fans, preservation and competitors. Nintendo isn’t any less of an abusive, control-freak IP landlord even if they have legally justified backing for what they’re doing-they always have the option not to pursue any kind of action over such cases, and they always go for the jugular.
@@jxwong_3982 Sega Genesis emulation is not their own brand.
@@TheSixthSLoT When have they gone after online Genesis emulation though? Sorry if I've forgotten, I legitimately can't recall any such instances.
They may offer it on Switch Online, but that would arise from a licensing deal made with Sega to offer their IP on Switch. That does not mean Nintendo was contractually assigned the rights to said IP, and to my knowledge they have not acted in a way that gives the impression that they were.
@@jxwong_3982 That's not the point I was making by saying that. My point is that Nintendo will use emulators when they see fit, yet shut down others when it doesn't suit their interests. It's complete and total hypocrisy that they'll utilize and profit off of emulation, yet they'll stop anyone else from simply having an emulator when it hasn't gone through their paywall. I only mentioned Sega because you brought up that they're licensing their own stuff. They are not just doing that though. Them not attempting to take down a Genesis emulator is not the point. The point is that Nintendo doesn't take such a firm stance against any kind of emulation when they stand to profit from it, yet they'll try to ruin your life just for showing gameplay of something running on a Steam Deck. It's like they only want emulation to be legal when they utilize it, but emulators themselves are legal for everyone. It's complete and total hypocrisy.
@@TheSixthSLoT Sorry for the misunderstanding. What I meant with the reply was that I don't see it as logically inconsistent that Nintendo only want to go after fan emulation; that makes complete sense from the basic principles of how property works. As the owner, they want rights to use and control IP as they like, and they don't want others to do it in an unauthorised way. Not to destroy emulation as a concept. Remember, they're IP landlords, and landlords don't hate the general idea of people (or themselves) living on their property, just other people doing it without paying rent.
With that said, it not being logically inconsistent or hypocritical doesn't stop it from being excessively restrictive and downright mean-spirited, or from toeing the line of what's legally acceptable (especially when the target of their legal action might have been covered by an exception within the DMCA, and able to plead that exception but for their absence of resources). I don't disagree that Nintendo are being nasty-you can have a valid legal right that you are nevertheless exercising in a totally heavy-handed way.
I'd say nintendo has always been petty and authoritarian. Remember they threw a fit over blockbuster being courteous enough to include game manuals?
But yeah they're only gotten worse over the decades, frankly describing their increasingly hostile practices as 'you will play our games only the way we tell you'.
Since they're fighting so hard to prevent preservation how about we give them what they want and let them fall into obscurity, there's plenty of better games that deserve to be remembered and still be playable.
Nintendo has SUCKED for years.. but everyone idolizes the child that is mr genius miyamoto, and continues to pour their money into their products (often don't deserve it).
I'm just glad everyone has forcefully been reminded that they are a company first and foremost! And that they have NEVER cared about their fanbase.. just their money.
And that they have NEVER cared about their fanbase.. just their money.
lol sooooo delusional
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It's obvious that Someday Miyamoto will be exposed the same way Kyle Killrozza and R Kelly was exposed. I guarantee he's evil
Nintendo lost me with the wii. Was a big nintendo fan before that. But the wii was the wakeup call. And it's not just the wii. Once I changed my mindset I discovered so much more crap nintedo does. It's a strange feeling people are still worshipping nintedo. I honestly don't understand why. Nintedo just makes the same games over and over and they are getting worse and worse.
We, the gaming community, deserve better from Nintendo. Their restrictive practices and disregard for fan creativity, including legal emulation, must stop. If we stand united, we can show them that their loyal fans won’t be silenced. Together, we can push for a company that respects its community!
I once got a copyright strike due to a NES gun in my thumbnail
Well, nintendo just convinced me to stop paying NSO and mod my switch...
Thank you Mario, but your money is in another wallet from now on.
Dude, Nintendo sucks now. It has sucked for a while. And that hurts coming from an ex-huge Nintendo fan. I believe the Nintendo that I knew and love died with Satoru Iwata...And Reggie leaving was the final nail in their coffin. They have no more joy or creativity, all they have now is lawsuits.
Iwata started all this bad stuff in the first place.
Dude, you DO REALIZE that they’ve been doing this since Iwata and Reggie was still at the helm, right? Such an idiot you are.
@@cherubin7thcan you provide receipts?
@@cherubin7th Sure mate...He was behind the BS video takedowns, the watered down games, Nintendo Switch's crappy online service. He also killed my goldfish and unplugged my television, all from beyond the grave 🙄
@@VideoJamesNZit literally started under him smart. Fangames, tournaments and RUclips partner program all began in early 2010s wiith him as president. You just ignore this.
I stand with Retro Game Corps.
The most sensible and best explanation I have heard on this whole debacle.. Nice work
Nintendo gives 2 Fs about what fans think😂😂
Looks to me like Nintendo will destroy their business if they keep this up. Nobody will want to buy their stuff for fear of litigation b/c lawyers.
There will be always crazy people that will buy any Zelda/pokemon they made. They know that… I love nintendo, I have great memories playing their portable consoles like the game boy color, advance and ds/3ds but I must admit that they have always been like this, since the nes era. It hurts that the company where Satoru Iwata and Gumpei Yokoi made history is also the same company that attacks its own fans…
@@MARLONX61 , even if there are people that do so, then those numbers will be less and less and, the more and more desperate, and crazy, that Nintendo, and its allies, act, the worse that it will be for them, so just keep up the pressure and make things play out like a game of Texas Hold 'Em Poker, and they will either fold or be s
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I doubt it. Most people who consume Nintendo games (i.e. children and casual fans) don't know about this controversy at all. We only do because we consume this kind of content regularly. The numbers are in their favour
nintendo has hit the twin towers💀
If Nintendo is going to continue to act like this, then I'd like to remind everyone that it is ALWAYS morally correct to pirate Nintendo games. Don't give them a dime
Hes gotta wait 90 days before his strikes reset .. been there
I remember Nintendo making a statement in the past, something along the lines of taking the entire internet down if they could, since everything on the internet for nintendo is copyright infringement.
Don't know if this statement was real, but I believe it.
I think the statement was half of the modern gaming industry
We need Palworld to win to knock down Nintendo to show they have a weakness.
Nintendo has a 99% win rate in court. If they chose to sue, it’s because they know that have something against Palworld that they can definitely win with. I’d like to see Pocket Pair win too, but it’s unlikely.
@@TheSixthSLoT They know they have money.
it won't get to court, nintendo is looking for a settlement and make an example out of them so fools can say that "nintendo has a big win rate in court".
@@RaAaAwrsyourEye You can be more direct with me. I know you read my comment and that you’re indirectly calling me a fool. It doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is when people decide to insult me in an ineffectual manner by not having the spine to @ me in the comments. But anyway, the facts are the facts. Nintendo does have a near perfect win rate in court, and they don’t pick court battles unless they’re positive they’re winning them. That’s exactly why they didn’t sue Palworld for copyright infringement. Even though Palworlds monsters look illegally similar to Nintendo’s monsters, they’re just different enough to be outside of Nintendo’s reach. Nintendo does their homework to know these things, so patent infringement it is. Whether or not it will be settled rather than fully fought is really up to Pocket Pair, however, I don’t see Nintendo settling for anything less than a severe penalty of some kind. History dictates that they never settle small.
Nintendo has never lost in Japan, period. They are old money and power, the peoples favorite and the governments darling.
Nintendo cant let Palworld exist, especially now that theyve signed on with Sony.
Holy shit dude. Time to buy my second switch for pirating!!!
people like you always did. Hope you'll one day pay the bill.
@@busterdoggy5389 Like the bill people pay for licking the dirt off of billion dollar corporations' boots? Nah, i don't think so
That’s it. I’m done supporting Nintendo. There are so many games to play made by companies who don’t hate their fans. They’ve lost a paying customer and gained nothing- the folks who are pirating were never going to pay for games in the first place.
Not really. Almost every company has done something about as bad as this, and you'll most likely never find one that hasn't. Sony, Microsoft, Capcom, Apple, and just about every company has made at least one questionable move in recent years.
I'm surprised that Nintendo hasn't gone after Analogue
Nintendo needs to be stopped.
Sacrifices to the church of Nintendo.
Been a follower of the Ryu jinx and yuzu emulator for a long while, and while i can see how yuzu was targeted, Ryu jinx also falling out is a major loss on some really cool emulations and tools
You can easily find the latest version for ryujinx. And to my knowledge ryujinx can play roughly 85% of current switch games or around 3500 switch games more or less 😅…i think most of the people will be happy with that many games. There wont be any updates so new games of switch wont work unless someone else make new updates for ryujinx 🤔 or on a new name...
Anyway..i dont think that will stop people for pirating new switch games specifically new mario games or zelda games…its just a matter of time. And The reason why nintendo goes hard on switch emulators is most likely because Switch 2 or the next generation is coming soon. (If you think its the end for switch emulator…you’d be surprised in the next few years. Hackers/modders will take this as a challenge)
I also think that Nintendo might make something like a monthly sub plan and allow you to have acess to all or “ some “ switch 1 games to the new console for something like 15.99$/month 😅 so they dont want any switch emulators 🤯
@@pokiblue5870It may still play new games. Echoes of Wisdom works with the final version of Yuzu, at least it does on my PC (5900x and RTX3080). That version is 7 months old which basically means Nintendo didn't bother changing things up to throw off emulators. The only game that's a Nintendo exclusive I'm looking forward to though is the new Mario and Luigi RPG. I'm a PC gamer first and foremost and basically every 3rd party developer now releases their games on PC.
I actually only first got a switch in like 2021. My last console before that was a PS3 I bought in 2008.
Being fair with you, both emulators are flawed and kinda bad. Online play is basically non existant and they were playing with fire with the Patreon accounts with other issues. Far way from Dolphin, Duckstation or the PS2 emulator.
@@Zmonea I don’t get it. Did Ryujinx get scared and opt to take down their emulator themselves? The emulator is 100% legal, so what’s the issue?
@@TheSixthSLoT It doesn't matter if its legal, Nintendo sues you, then you need legal representation costing 100K+. Then you need a fundraiser or to put your house on the line. Nintendo then get to go through your communications devices and servers during discovery, if your OP sec hasn't been perfect they find roms used to test the emulator used by you or a team member.
Now they have grounds to sue you for distribution of copyrighted material and complaints violating the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA, each case can net thousands to hundreds of thousands per count. All the while you are going bankrupt and your life is on hold before serious court proceedings start.
All of this can happen while your open source emulator is 100% original code.
So you can follow a cease and desist and get an agreement from Nintendo to waive any future litigation relating to the Ryujinx project or you can spend years of your time in eye watering debt fighting scum of the earth coporate lawyers.
I wanted to buy a switch, I just saved up money, and I wasn't going to use mig flash because I'm Ukrainian and the company that manufactures this product has ties to russia, but this attitude of nintendo towards its fans repels me.
You know when Nintendo was peak gaming?
Back in NES, SNES, GBC, N64, and GBA days?
Yeah, that's long gone. They've fallen from grace rather quick.
The Switch is a piece of trash.
There are no "dark corners " of the Internet and there never were
There's only one simple answer:
Japan has no fair use laws in their copyright laws, and Nintendo, like all Japanese companies, will use that to their advantage to take down what they don't like.
@DuwangKaizer, actually, they DO have copyright laws, and I also explained just a FEW of the Japanese laws that Nintendo has violated.
Even if they were American, what Retro Game Corps did was not fair use. Showcasing an emulator / device by showing a game is not transformative on the content of the game.
Never underestimate Nintendo’s ability to come up with bullshit