In Pokémon Black & White’s defense They were in development as early as 2008 and released in 2010 in Japan. It only released that late everywhere else.
As for the sequel - considering they leveraged a lot of the same assets and engine, Locking it to the 3DS wouldn't really make any sense. It would take a lot more development effort and budget to create something that actually was taking advantage of the 3DS's improved hardware.
meh Game Freak is always lazy doing the bare minimum and still sell millions... they had 3DS dev kits yet their first 3DS game came out in 2013, they just didn't care
@@pokemonduckgame development takes time dude, they aren’t lazy the creators just had other stuff to do. You’re assuming developers are obligated immediately to make a game and release it when the console launches, but even still…. GAME DEVELOPMENT TAKES TIME MORON. You forget that X and Y had a tight development time going from 2D to 3D, with over 600 Pokemon that needed to be remodelled for that new game. Which is funny cuz the game began development in 2010, right after Pokemon black and white was released, while they also made Black2/White2 at the same time. So to say they’re lazy is ignorant.
The last 3+ years of each handheld's era basically made it's best content all the time. The launch year was always "look at what we did on a handheld!!" And then the following years were everyone actually figuring out what the heck they were doing with the hardware
I don't understand why anyone would be angry or even annoyed at a company releasing games on their old platform. Black and White must have been in development long before the 3ds had stable hardware and dev kits. Black and white 2 are just sequels to the original games on the same engine. Games take a long time to develop and it doesn't make sense to switch engines an scrap your work if the game you're working on is already deep into development.
Ya I'm much more surprised by how long it took them to bring pokemon to Switch, considering that thing was selling like hotcakes. I guess they didn't need a system seller though, and they could reuse the X and Y engine to keep costs down.
That’s because they don’t care. These people just consume and complain, never getting out of their ignorant headspace to realize game development happens early (and most of the times is long) and also that there are certain factors that cause these situations to happen. They say “game freak is lazy” but in truth black and white was in development since 2008, and even though the 3DS was announced before the game came out, they couldn’t just spend two years doing nothing and figuring out how the 3DS hardware worked, for us to wait with what would possibly be a lacklustre product :/
The final years of both the DS and the Wii from around 2010 - 2013 are incredibly nostalgic for me. I was just getting into gaming as a 5/6 year old in 2010/11 and despite both consoles being relatively old by that point, everyone I knew still adored them as if they were brand new. All my friends at school had DSis since they were still pretty popular around then and I even ended up getting a DS Lite for Christmas in 2011 after begging my mum for a 3DS but I was just happy to finally have my own console and be able to join in on the fun with my friends.
I find it so funny how scott the woz, mr I hate rpgs and pokemon especially, mentions pokemon conquest more than people who actually make pokemon content do. I love conquest its my favorite videogame of all time, but its so funny that scott mentions it more than every pokemon youtuber I watch.
@@rhodrage i mean…even people waho dont like a series can vibe with the soundtrack. I’m not a xenoblade guy but I’ll admit their soundtrack has some bangers in it
They're also usually pretty hesitant to flat out replace a predecessor until the successor has proven itself, so they have an escape set up. Their notorious "The DS is not replacing the GBA, it's a third pillar." claim. They also said the Switch wasn't replacing the 3DS, as Scott eluded to.
My favorite part is Scott at the beginning talking about how Nintendo supports its handheld consoles differently from its home consoles in the present tense
I find it a bit funny how all of Nintendo’s handhelds always end up overstaying their welcome (Also side note this is purely satire, I don’t actually think any of them overstayed in the market. Maybe the 3DS but hey, it’s a good console)
@@expendableindigo9639 TIL! I got a vita last year from a coworker. it was new in box, he had bought it for a project and never used it, just gave it to me! super nice. I haven't figured out what games to get for it yet 😅
Kirby Mass Attack went overboard on its minigames. There’s a whole pinball mini game with 4 boss fights in it. It’s like a way better sequel to Kirby’s Pinball Land, and it’s just a mini game within Mass Attack.
i played some of it (i think i completed two worlds?) about a year ago, pretty fun but gets repetitive and collectables felt pretty annoying. i loved the previous six kirby games i played so a bit dissappointing, might go back to it tho
Publishered by Nintendo themselves? They said 10 years and assuming switch 2 will be next year, at least 2 more. Though I think it will still be getting third party stuff though the end of the decade
Probably depends on whether or not the Switch 2 is backwards compatible. If it is, then we may get the occasional Switch game that can be played on both.
I have so many Game Boy Advance games that say 2005 on the copyright screen that I'm actually surprised when a game doesn't say 2005 on the copyright screen. Fun fact I never saw a DS back in the day only DS lights so i didnt even know it existed for a while after it came out. The first time I saw an original DS was that one of those demo kiosks and I literally just thought that it looks different from the DS Lite because it was a demo kiosk so it must have been using like pre-production hardware or something like that.
the gen 5 pokemon games would look killer with the 3d effect, but also if they were developed for the 3ds they'd probably look very aesthetically different, which would suck. the gen 5 pokemon games have some of my favorite graphics in any game
@@primemeowidk I think it could look good. I think it would be cool to have the 2D sprites but with stereoscopic 3D so they pop out of the screen. Also the resolution of the sprites looked a bit too low sometimes on DS, with the moving sprites.
Idk why people in the comments think BW being made for the 3ds means they would have to look like XY. There are a lot of 2d pixel games on 3ds with the 3d effect that look really good like the Sega Classics and the other Nintendo retro games. And this is ignoring the fact that BW already ARE 3d games. Just look at the part walking up Skyarrow Bridge, that would look great with the 3d effect and you wouldn't need to change the game's art style at all. If BW were widescreen with 3d EFFECTS (not graphics) it would look amazing. I hope someone makes a romhack for that one day.
Mass Attack was my first Kirby game, so I was a little surprised when I got into the other ones as a kid and literally none of them played like Mass Attack. Amazing game though, and the minigames included were also phenomenal. Strato Patrol EOS and Kirby Quest are probably my favorite Kirby sidegames/extras ever. The like 2010-2013 late Wii/DS Kirby era in general are probably some of the games I have the most nostalgia for. Mass Attack, dream collection, epic yarn, returns to dream land. Black 2 was also my first Pokemon game. I'm happy that Nintendo kept supporting the system for 6 year old me specifically before I got the 2DS lol.
Scott didn’t mention NSMB2 that’s tragic. That’s the game I remember seeing my friend playing on his 3DS and thinking “I need that.” In hindsight it’s nothing amazing but it was a cool early 3DS game.
The one thing I'll say in favor of black and white 2 is that they were sequels that reused a lot of the sprite assets. It's sort of like occarina and majora's mask they got use out of the core systems and asset reuse which meant they weren't starting from scratch.
I definitely feel like gen5 felt the most vibrant and colourful. With it having full pokemon animations in battles, and lots of side content… anyone ever used entralink btw?
I still have a DS phat... they feel so much better to hold versus the DS Lite (which I also have, I just need to put it in a new shell). I also don't like the GBA game sticking out the DS Lite, but the DS phat allows it to sit flush
Mind you, recebt leaks have revealed that Gamefreak had PLAYABLE BUILDS of XY dating back to BEFORE black and white actually launched outside of Japan. And, furthermore, it confirmed that most of the Pokèmon in Gen 6 were scrapped from Black and White 2, which was pushed out the door and then dumped immediately for Gen 7 because the "fans" complained about there being no Kanto pokemon before the post game. Let me repeat, not just "no pre-Gen 5 pokemon" not KANTO pokemon.
It does help having some new games on old hardware when a new console comes out because sometimes you can't afford the new one or have to wait for a sale to get it for christmas
I’ve actually been having a huge phase with my grandpa’s ds lite he gave me a few years back, I grew up on the Wii and original 3ds so I never really got into the ds lite plus I’m pretty sure I had the Switch at that point… but recently I have been watching a lot of content about the 3ds, ds and gba games and have been really missing the straightforward utility and charm of them. I really try to play on console over pc emulation as much as possible as I just enjoy the experience more, but unfortunately my original 3ds won’t charge and Nintendo won’t fix that. And so i picked up my Lite, definitely didn’t purchase a 208 game cartridge off of Amazon (not an r4 sry) and I have been loving it. Clocking in double digit hours on a load of games over the last 1-2 months. They’re is just something about that feels so right lol.
@@Hoodles321 FYI Nintendo still sells official batteries on their site. I checked the other day, looks like they're not really restocking them quick but I don't think they've entirely taken them down yet, so that's probably the best source. Would recommend since I replaced my PSP's battery with a supposedly reputable third-party replacement and I'm still not sure if the battery's good or not or if that's just the PSP battery life lol.
The 3DS is honestly my favourite console of all time. The gimmick is neat, but is completely unintrusive and they didn't focus on it too hard like the Switch. People who liked it could use it all they want, and people who didn't could pretend it didn't exist.
I remember getting Kirby Mass Attack in Christmas of 2012 for my 3DS, Daroach actually comments on how he wishes he had "one of those new 3DS systems" if you keep asking him for hints
The DS having a better lineup in 2011 than the 3DS is hilarious and kinda vindicating as a kid who kept playing their DS well into 2012. The 3DS launch really did not make that system look appealing back then.
Why do people have such a hate b*ner for anything 3DS and Wii U related? What's that? It's the 3DS? Well that means the launch lineup is the WORST EVUH! This is the start of the STINKEE BLAND ERA OF MARIO!!1! Let's just forget Pilotwings and Super Monkey Ball 3D Existed Let's also forget NSMB2, Sonic Generations and Lost World, Mario and Sonic Rio 2016, NFS The Run, etc. But guys, it's not what I grew up with and the consoles failed due to poor marketing so it's terrible, stinky and generic and these games killed their franchises!!1! Hate to break it to you but Yoshi Touch and Go is FAR worse than any of the games i mentioned
@@cakelayer I’m literally someone who thinks 3ds Mario and Pokemon are goat/overhated, and what you comment, is actually what you think of the system or what you assume why others give 3ds hate?
3DS launch year was so good: Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Sonic Generations, Tekken, Dead or Alive, Super Street Fighter 4, Ridge Racer and Shinobi
@@kingstarscream320well, both Marios came in the holidays, so for the longest time there were only N64 remakes of StarFox and Zelda, and some 3rd party stuff
I got an idea for an episode for you: when I was a kid my parents bought a Samsung 3D TV. It came with a DVD toystory game that worked with the special 3D glasses. Figured you'd like looking into that. Have fun Scott!
I appreciate Nintendo always giving reasons for you to own the previous and latest consoles, whether it’s the control scheme being different or purely aesthetic reasons
I was quite young, so I had no consciousness about when all these games released. I remember playing Pokemon Conquest on my DS lite but I thought it was before the 3DS, thats amazing.
I remember when the 3DS came out and NOBODY wanted anything to do with it. All of my friends couldn’t care less. Boy were they wrong when games like Mario Kart 7 and Smash 3DS came out.
Pretty sure the ultimate setup for handheld emulation is a new 3/2DS XL w custom firmware and/or flash cart because it has the most power with the ds form factor and is backward compatible up to GBA. Dsi can’t play any 3ds native games either since its previous gen
I bought a DStwo back in 2015 and to this day, "ALEX RIDER STORMBREAKER" stands atop my most played games according to my 3DS activity log. First beat a bunch of GBA and DS games that way, the GBA emulation was pretty shoddy but good enough.
When the 3DS came out in Australia it was priced at AU$350. The Australian dollar was also at parity with the US dollar at the time. No wonder my parents bought me a DSi instead in March of 2011. Good thing my dumb kid brain hadn't realised that the 3DS existed yet.
Mass Attack got one of the best Kirby soundtracks, which is saying A LOT considering how every Kirby soundtrack is amazing, and that's coming from someone who didn't play this game when I was young, so no nostalgia involved. It's such an underrated soundtrack that more people should check out, composed entirely by the Mother 3 composer, Shogo Sakai.
I played pokemon rumble blast so much when I just got my 3ds. I remember I got it before the price cut. Not even a big pokemon fan, never have been but that game ruled.
Love my n3ds XL and have been loving it for years. Theres some quirk that always brings me back to it its gotta be the 3d affect. With the addition of isp screens makes games look so crisp and the graphics still hold their own. Shin Megami Tensai's soundtrack and atmosphere is just peak IMO too. I love it so so much. Mine is plain but some of the special editions go hard too
God that recap of the early months of the 3DS took me back. I have both Steel Diver and the Tom Clancy one, both games I would never have looked at otherwise.
I mean, tbh, new games on the old systems is normal for other companies too just not Nintendo's home consoles (after SNES at least). Every Playstation is somewhat alive long after the next one comes out, I think notable PS4 releases from big companies are STILL happening now.
3ds/ds isn't really a good comparison to ps4/ps5, because a game has to have a massive budget to even require using the ps5's specs compared to ps4. though the conundrum is similar because the 3ds's improvements are mostly shown thru 3d games so if you're making a 2d sprite based game it will just work on the ds anyway but, yeah. one thing scott seems to overlook in a lot of these videos is that nintendo is considering an entire market, not just people who keep up with the news. I didn't know about the DS till the DS lite, just like scott and I'm sure it was the same for the 3ds for a lot of people for awhile too
@@TheRenegade... that was just for the Just Dance games. Wii stopped receiving new major releases in summer 2012 which was nearly half a year before the Wii U launched.
One other late DS release was Okamiden, around the same time as Pokemon Black and White. The Okami sequel(?). I distinctly remember hating how it looked on 3DS and going back to my DSi to keep playing it, though the circle pad was kinda nice for it.
13:22 I got my original 3DS at the full retail price, and rolled the dice on when Nintendo's price cut would kick in. It did shortly afterwards so my Best Buy store did a price match, and I also got the free games from Nintendo and my Ambassador Certificate. It's still on my New 3DS, I transferred it over.
Nintendo's entire handheld lineup are my favorite consoles of all time. I'm glad they let them live on as long as they did. The switch is amazing, and I love it, but I miss having a "secondary system" that was tiny and had its entire own library
I still have my small light blue DSi and I found both of my sisters old DS Phats back in June along with their old games and I had been collecting primarily first party DS games for the last few months that I never got to actually play
I think Scott underestimates how many people hang on to the old hardware for as long as they can, for financial reasons or otherwise. For as long as I've been playing games, I've never been able to afford upgrades immediately. I welcome the releases for old hardware lol
The whole idea behind unifying handheld and home console was that this would allow Nintendo to unify their development teams and platforms and that we would get more games on Switch than on 3DS and Wii U combined. Well that never happened. In fact we’re getting even less games than on both of those older consoles combined and EVEN LESS when you don’t consider Wii U ports as new games 😂. We used to get like one 3DS and one Wii U game per month and now we get maaaaybe one Switch game per month 😂 when we should have gotten like 3 Switch games per month almost every month. And no I’m not saying that all those games need to be AA or AAA games or that I would buy each game. But the thing is with Switch Nintendo has just completely abandoned small handheld-style games. There was like a brief period where they did put out some smaller games during Covid but that didn’t last. Where’s my Tokyo Crash Mobs? Weapon Shop de Omase? Kersplosh? Where’s all the crazy WiiWare and DSiWare stuff they used to do? Where is 3D Flipnotes? Where is Nintendo Letterbox? I don’t know what happened at Nintendo but with the generational shift away from people like Iwata, Miyamoto, Tezuka, and others just so much creativity got lost. 😢
I went through a whole Pokémon rumble blast phase! 😭 I was crazy obsessed with it! Basically stalker level obsessed! Played it for over 500 hours in total
Pokemon black and white released in Japan Sept of 2010 So it wasn't ever planned as a potential 3DS game Same thing happened before with pokemon emerald that came on in japan 2004 but NA 2005 And black 2 and white 2 are more to not separate the sequels into different consoles They did it with ultra sun and ultra moon after
Right out of highschool in 2012 I got a purple 3ds and rumble blast it was mid, but 10 years later I got back into it and i can say I do enjoy rumble blast casually! Hahah
Man I always wanted that midnight purple 3ds but couldn’t afford it at the time. It’s such a nice color. Now they have the Galaxy new 3ds xl which is like a follow up to the midnight purple 3ds and I’ve been wanting that too even though I already have a N3ds
Unfortunately, I never had a 3DS. I had a Gameboy SP when I was 5, a DSi when I was 9, and a hand me down Gamecube when I was 11. So I never got have a 3DS or 2DS. I played a 3DS before snd thought it was very cool. Now Im 24 and it's like, man I wish I could have experience stuff like this growing up.
Kirby Mass Attack is such a good game, very happy seeing it get some form of recognition, even if it's in the sense of "oh my god they released _another_ Kirby game for the DS after the 3DS launched"
I got my Gameboy Color, Advance, Advance SP, Nintendo DS, and New Nintendo 3DS at pawn shops throughout my life. And the great thing is, I still have all of them.
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GBA: Kill me.
Fan community: Screw you, we're running super mario 64 on you.
wait what
@@lolmonke.Yep, it's by Joshua Baretto if you're interested in vids on it
It's suchhh a cool project
yeah but that guy is using 64ds textures, so it's ugly (and also the gba library blows ass)
@@SuperM789how about you make Mario 64 on the GBA and then you have the right to complain about it.
@@SuperM789 the GBA library is absolutely unmatched. You wont find a better selection among 32bit consoles/handhelds. Keep trolling!
In Pokémon Black & White’s defense
They were in development as early as 2008 and released in 2010 in Japan. It only released that late everywhere else.
As for the sequel - considering they leveraged a lot of the same assets and engine, Locking it to the 3DS wouldn't really make any sense. It would take a lot more development effort and budget to create something that actually was taking advantage of the 3DS's improved hardware.
meh Game Freak is always lazy doing the bare minimum and still sell millions... they had 3DS dev kits yet their first 3DS game came out in 2013, they just didn't care
@@pokemonduck I hate the ideology of Pokemon from the bottom of my heart, but how was B&W in any way the bare minimum??
lol two years for that game 💀 no wonder it lacks things the previous games have, and it’s a damn circle.
@@pokemonduckgame development takes time dude, they aren’t lazy the creators just had other stuff to do. You’re assuming developers are obligated immediately to make a game and release it when the console launches, but even still…. GAME DEVELOPMENT TAKES TIME MORON.
You forget that X and Y had a tight development time going from 2D to 3D, with over 600 Pokemon that needed to be remodelled for that new game. Which is funny cuz the game began development in 2010, right after Pokemon black and white was released, while they also made Black2/White2 at the same time. So to say they’re lazy is ignorant.
The last 3+ years of each handheld's era basically made it's best content all the time. The launch year was always "look at what we did on a handheld!!" And then the following years were everyone actually figuring out what the heck they were doing with the hardware
GBA was different though, it had amazing games in the first year like Wario Land 4
Don't mess with us Pokémon Rumble fans. There's like 5 of us.
Don’t mess with us Pokémon Rumble U fans. We’re all deceased. :)
Pokémon Rumble World is one of my most-played 3DS games.
@@wesreleases6346That was a good enough free to play game, never paid a cent and got 20 hours out of it
Rumble weekend be like
@@wesreleases6346Same here!
I don't understand why anyone would be angry or even annoyed at a company releasing games on their old platform. Black and White must have been in development long before the 3ds had stable hardware and dev kits. Black and white 2 are just sequels to the original games on the same engine.
Games take a long time to develop and it doesn't make sense to switch engines an scrap your work if the game you're working on is already deep into development.
Because gamers are idiots 😂
Except that's happened quite a lot over the years. For Nintendo and other companies games.
Ya I'm much more surprised by how long it took them to bring pokemon to Switch, considering that thing was selling like hotcakes. I guess they didn't need a system seller though, and they could reuse the X and Y engine to keep costs down.
People are getting angry on the switch and no announcement on the next console. Lol.
That’s because they don’t care. These people just consume and complain, never getting out of their ignorant headspace to realize game development happens early (and most of the times is long) and also that there are certain factors that cause these situations to happen.
They say “game freak is lazy” but in truth black and white was in development since 2008, and even though the 3DS was announced before the game came out, they couldn’t just spend two years doing nothing and figuring out how the 3DS hardware worked, for us to wait with what would possibly be a lacklustre product :/
scott finally realized pokemon black and white 2 exists and I can die happy now
Holy fu-- bw background music
My people 😂
Peak enjoyers!
Best Pokémon game!
@@josukemcjoestar9856 worst pokemon games lol
The final years of both the DS and the Wii from around 2010 - 2013 are incredibly nostalgic for me. I was just getting into gaming as a 5/6 year old in 2010/11 and despite both consoles being relatively old by that point, everyone I knew still adored them as if they were brand new. All my friends at school had DSis since they were still pretty popular around then and I even ended up getting a DS Lite for Christmas in 2011 after begging my mum for a 3DS but I was just happy to finally have my own console and be able to join in on the fun with my friends.
Ok kid
**Scott Go 1 Month Without Mentioning the 3DS Ambassador Program: LEVEL IMPOSSIBLE**
He missed it by one day. That's something you don't forget
@@LHColliderX lol true
I find it so funny how scott the woz, mr I hate rpgs and pokemon especially, mentions pokemon conquest more than people who actually make pokemon content do. I love conquest its my favorite videogame of all time, but its so funny that scott mentions it more than every pokemon youtuber I watch.
There's pokemon music throughout the video too.
@@rhodrage i mean…even people waho dont like a series can vibe with the soundtrack. I’m not a xenoblade guy but I’ll admit their soundtrack has some bangers in it
objectivity
Conquest should have been a 3ds game
Gotta respect Nintendo, keeping some of their old consoles on life support so the owners of them don’t get left behind.
True but it was mostly because the install base was so large that they could still make a good chunk of money by keeping it around, same with the Wii
*consoles
They're also usually pretty hesitant to flat out replace a predecessor until the successor has proven itself, so they have an escape set up.
Their notorious "The DS is not replacing the GBA, it's a third pillar." claim. They also said the Switch wasn't replacing the 3DS, as Scott eluded to.
@@Jlaps941yeah nintendo isn’t doing it out of the goodness of their heart lol
Ps4s current situation
My favorite part is Scott at the beginning talking about how Nintendo supports its handheld consoles differently from its home consoles in the present tense
Just like my 1985 Toyota Camry
“Let me tell you a story about my Toyota Camry. One day it started making a loud noise, I ignored it and it went away, the end”
I find it a bit funny how all of Nintendo’s handhelds always end up overstaying their welcome
(Also side note this is purely satire, I don’t actually think any of them overstayed in the market. Maybe the 3DS but hey, it’s a good console)
It's because they're awesome.
I'm planning on buying a Switch Lite at the end of the year. This is my first 9th gen console :v.
I’m just baffled that the Playatation Vita was still getting tons of indie games in 2021. Even got one in 2023 called Jetset Knights.
@@expendableindigo9639 TIL! I got a vita last year from a coworker. it was new in box, he had bought it for a project and never used it, just gave it to me! super nice. I haven't figured out what games to get for it yet 😅
Except the GBA
"I wish I could get my hands on one of those Nintendo 3DS systems. Seems like they're worth their weight in gold."
-Daroach, Kirby Mass Attack, 2011
Bro's a prophet.
It's funny because that's barely any gold. The console is not heavy.
@SophisticatedGoat222 but quite a lot of money due to how expensive pure gold is. (probably around $20 700/€19 200)
Kirby Mass Attack is SO GOOD and NO ONE talks about it anymore
Facts
Kirby Mass Attack went overboard on its minigames. There’s a whole pinball mini game with 4 boss fights in it. It’s like a way better sequel to Kirby’s Pinball Land, and it’s just a mini game within Mass Attack.
i played some of it (i think i completed two worlds?) about a year ago, pretty fun but gets repetitive and collectables felt pretty annoying. i loved the previous six kirby games i played so a bit dissappointing, might go back to it tho
A golden cockroach, basically.
Now I'm wondering how long the og switch will keep getting games once the next system comes out
Just remember that by the time when the next system comes out the Switch will be 8 years old.
March 3rd 2025 is when the Switch turns 8 years old.
Publishered by Nintendo themselves? They said 10 years and assuming switch 2 will be next year, at least 2 more. Though I think it will still be getting third party stuff though the end of the decade
For like a year or two probably lol. I expect the Switch 2 will be able to play Switch games anyways
Probably depends on whether or not the Switch 2 is backwards compatible. If it is, then we may get the occasional Switch game that can be played on both.
Nintendolife posted earlier, that third party ports will be the bulk of Switch 1 content. I am completely okay with that.
I have so many Game Boy Advance games that say 2005 on the copyright screen that I'm actually surprised when a game doesn't say 2005 on the copyright screen.
Fun fact I never saw a DS back in the day only DS lights so i didnt even know it existed for a while after it came out. The first time I saw an original DS was that one of those demo kiosks and I literally just thought that it looks different from the DS Lite because it was a demo kiosk so it must have been using like pre-production hardware or something like that.
Same for me. I only knew of the DS lite and DSI. It wasn't until 2013-ish that I saw a kid at school playing the 2005 DS that I first saw one.
Kirby Mass Attack had some POTENTIAL though.
Better than Canvas Curse by far, and I will die on this hill.
Canvas Curse thoroughly set the series in its eldritch-horror-for-kids direction, but Mass Attack absolutely had the better gameplay
@jacobsiron6929
yeah. crap was already pretty crazy with characters like zero and marx, but drawcia was truly something else
@@jacobsiron6929 dream land 3? crystal shards?
i love all of them
Being given the choice of pokemon bw2 or Kirby Mass attack as a child is a financial choice I will never recover from but I still do love Mass attack
bw2 is mid, its only use is being sold to make quick cash
@@SuperM789and they’re going for hundreds of dollars on eBay 💀
@@SuperM789 Bro really just called one of the greatest Pokemon games mid
@@LARAUJO_0 it's definitely not mid but Mass Attack is definitely better
@SuperM789 I didn't ask I was just talking about something I enjoy
another gem to spend 25 minutes of my life on with no regrets
the gen 5 pokemon games would look killer with the 3d effect, but also if they were developed for the 3ds they'd probably look very aesthetically different, which would suck. the gen 5 pokemon games have some of my favorite graphics in any game
It would of look better on 3ds
@@3dsfan2002No it wouldn’t, the limited 3D they used in that game is so charming
@@primemeowidk I think it could look good. I think it would be cool to have the 2D sprites but with stereoscopic 3D so they pop out of the screen. Also the resolution of the sprites looked a bit too low sometimes on DS, with the moving sprites.
Idk why people in the comments think BW being made for the 3ds means they would have to look like XY. There are a lot of 2d pixel games on 3ds with the 3d effect that look really good like the Sega Classics and the other Nintendo retro games. And this is ignoring the fact that BW already ARE 3d games. Just look at the part walking up Skyarrow Bridge, that would look great with the 3d effect and you wouldn't need to change the game's art style at all. If BW were widescreen with 3d EFFECTS (not graphics) it would look amazing. I hope someone makes a romhack for that one day.
@@3dsfan2002 *would've
Mass Attack was my first Kirby game, so I was a little surprised when I got into the other ones as a kid and literally none of them played like Mass Attack. Amazing game though, and the minigames included were also phenomenal. Strato Patrol EOS and Kirby Quest are probably my favorite Kirby sidegames/extras ever.
The like 2010-2013 late Wii/DS Kirby era in general are probably some of the games I have the most nostalgia for. Mass Attack, dream collection, epic yarn, returns to dream land.
Black 2 was also my first Pokemon game. I'm happy that Nintendo kept supporting the system for 6 year old me specifically before I got the 2DS lol.
Watching the fall 2018 nintendo direct for the 3ds was like watching someone be buried at their funeral.
The Accumula Town OST coming in at 7:20 is so good - never fails to make me smile!
in like ten years i expect a video about how the PS4 wouldn't die
Great vid. This is exactly what is about to happen with SuperSwiich2UltraNew.
It stills baffles me the 3DS was 240p. And yet games still looked good.
Scott didn’t mention NSMB2 that’s tragic. That’s the game I remember seeing my friend playing on his 3DS and thinking “I need that.” In hindsight it’s nothing amazing but it was a cool early 3DS game.
The one thing I'll say in favor of black and white 2 is that they were sequels that reused a lot of the sprite assets. It's sort of like occarina and majora's mask they got use out of the core systems and asset reuse which meant they weren't starting from scratch.
That’s why it took a year or 2 to make it
This is a funny conversation to have. We still see new videogames for the Atari 2600. I like the idea of consoles and handhelds that never go away.
was listening to this like a podcast so was taken aback when i heard a NDS game called "Cooking Meth"
Nintendo loves keeping it’s systems on Life Support until it’s already had it’s funeral service
Thank GOD BnW werent 3ds games... so beautiful, so much style. the last pokemon games to ever push a system to its limits...
Are you trying to insult the 3ds?!
No 3dsfan2002, I’m insulting the Pokémon company and their inability to care to catch up to modern systems
@@3dsfan2002 u say that as if u own the nintendo company😭
@@3dsfan2002the name checks out
I definitely feel like gen5 felt the most vibrant and colourful. With it having full pokemon animations in battles, and lots of side content… anyone ever used entralink btw?
"150 million install base, who's still playing their DS at this point" Well, going by B2/W2 sales numbers, about 8.52 million people. Give or take.
I still have a DS phat... they feel so much better to hold versus the DS Lite (which I also have, I just need to put it in a new shell). I also don't like the GBA game sticking out the DS Lite, but the DS phat allows it to sit flush
I kinda like the bluish tint and scanlines on the screen too.
R.I.P Rex: He had 9 days left to live...
Don't worry, he'll be back in three days
@@CanaanMoment I forgot, He is Overjoyed
MASS ATTACK HAD THE BEST SUBGAMES IN THE SERIES!!
Driftveil City is such a bop
Your channel is literally the 3ds channel love it
Mind you, recebt leaks have revealed that Gamefreak had PLAYABLE BUILDS of XY dating back to BEFORE black and white actually launched outside of Japan. And, furthermore, it confirmed that most of the Pokèmon in Gen 6 were scrapped from Black and White 2, which was pushed out the door and then dumped immediately for Gen 7 because the "fans" complained about there being no Kanto pokemon before the post game. Let me repeat, not just "no pre-Gen 5 pokemon" not KANTO pokemon.
As a Pokemon fan who’s first game was Blue Version, I’m so damn tired of Gen 1 pandering
The Gen 6 Pokemon lineup being intended for B2/W2 was quickly proven to be one of the false leaks that got mixed in with the real ones
It does help having some new games on old hardware when a new console comes out because sometimes you can't afford the new one or have to wait for a sale to get it for christmas
I’ve actually been having a huge phase with my grandpa’s ds lite he gave me a few years back, I grew up on the Wii and original 3ds so I never really got into the ds lite plus I’m pretty sure I had the Switch at that point… but recently I have been watching a lot of content about the 3ds, ds and gba games and have been really missing the straightforward utility and charm of them. I really try to play on console over pc emulation as much as possible as I just enjoy the experience more, but unfortunately my original 3ds won’t charge and Nintendo won’t fix that. And so i picked up my Lite, definitely didn’t purchase a 208 game cartridge off of Amazon (not an r4 sry) and I have been loving it. Clocking in double digit hours on a load of games over the last 1-2 months. They’re is just something about that feels so right lol.
Does you 3ds refuse to charge because the battery is dead? If yes, replacement are pretty cheap.
@@emperormegaman3856 really? Thanks, maybe that’s it, I’ll look into it 🙂
@@Hoodles321 FYI Nintendo still sells official batteries on their site. I checked the other day, looks like they're not really restocking them quick but I don't think they've entirely taken them down yet, so that's probably the best source. Would recommend since I replaced my PSP's battery with a supposedly reputable third-party replacement and I'm still not sure if the battery's good or not or if that's just the PSP battery life lol.
The 3DS is honestly my favourite console of all time. The gimmick is neat, but is completely unintrusive and they didn't focus on it too hard like the Switch. People who liked it could use it all they want, and people who didn't could pretend it didn't exist.
Holy moly
I remember getting Kirby Mass Attack in Christmas of 2012 for my 3DS, Daroach actually comments on how he wishes he had "one of those new 3DS systems" if you keep asking him for hints
The DS having a better lineup in 2011 than the 3DS is hilarious and kinda vindicating as a kid who kept playing their DS well into 2012. The 3DS launch really did not make that system look appealing back then.
3ds now is better than the ds
Why do people have such a hate b*ner for anything 3DS and Wii U related? What's that? It's the 3DS? Well that means the launch lineup is the WORST EVUH! This is the start of the STINKEE BLAND ERA OF MARIO!!1!
Let's just forget Pilotwings and Super Monkey Ball 3D Existed
Let's also forget NSMB2, Sonic Generations and Lost World, Mario and Sonic Rio 2016, NFS The Run, etc.
But guys, it's not what I grew up with and the consoles failed due to poor marketing so it's terrible, stinky and generic and these games killed their franchises!!1!
Hate to break it to you but Yoshi Touch and Go is FAR worse than any of the games i mentioned
@@cakelayer I’m literally someone who thinks 3ds Mario and Pokemon are goat/overhated, and what you comment, is actually what you think of the system or what you assume why others give 3ds hate?
3DS launch year was so good: Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Sonic Generations, Tekken, Dead or Alive, Super Street Fighter 4, Ridge Racer and Shinobi
@@kingstarscream320well, both Marios came in the holidays, so for the longest time there were only N64 remakes of StarFox and Zelda, and some 3rd party stuff
I got an idea for an episode for you: when I was a kid my parents bought a Samsung 3D TV. It came with a DVD toystory game that worked with the special 3D glasses. Figured you'd like looking into that. Have fun Scott!
SCOTT TALKED ABOUT MASS ATTACK LESGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
3:24 Cooking what?
I appreciate Nintendo always giving reasons for you to own the previous and latest consoles, whether it’s the control scheme being different or purely aesthetic reasons
I was quite young, so I had no consciousness about when all these games released. I remember playing Pokemon Conquest on my DS lite but I thought it was before the 3DS, thats amazing.
15:56 DUDE FOSSIL FIGHTERS 1 and 2 IS SO GOOD YOU HAVE TO MAKE VIDEOS ON THEM
I remember when the 3DS came out and NOBODY wanted anything to do with it. All of my friends couldn’t care less. Boy were they wrong when games like Mario Kart 7 and Smash 3DS came out.
ds + flash cart = infinite entertainment
DSi Xl with custom firmware is the way to go these days. No need for a flash cart at all.
no?
Pretty sure the ultimate setup for handheld emulation is a new 3/2DS XL w custom firmware and/or flash cart because it has the most power with the ds form factor and is backward compatible up to GBA. Dsi can’t play any 3ds native games either since its previous gen
I bought a DStwo back in 2015 and to this day, "ALEX RIDER STORMBREAKER" stands atop my most played games according to my 3DS activity log. First beat a bunch of GBA and DS games that way, the GBA emulation was pretty shoddy but good enough.
@@xMaGuSx888 nice, I should learn more about modding stuff
When the 3DS came out in Australia it was priced at AU$350. The Australian dollar was also at parity with the US dollar at the time. No wonder my parents bought me a DSi instead in March of 2011. Good thing my dumb kid brain hadn't realised that the 3DS existed yet.
Mass Attack got one of the best Kirby soundtracks, which is saying A LOT considering how every Kirby soundtrack is amazing, and that's coming from someone who didn't play this game when I was young, so no nostalgia involved. It's such an underrated soundtrack that more people should check out, composed entirely by the Mother 3 composer, Shogo Sakai.
I played pokemon rumble blast so much when I just got my 3ds. I remember I got it before the price cut. Not even a big pokemon fan, never have been but that game ruled.
17:38 can we just talk about that throw
Love my n3ds XL and have been loving it for years. Theres some quirk that always brings me back to it its gotta be the 3d affect. With the addition of isp screens makes games look so crisp and the graphics still hold their own. Shin Megami Tensai's soundtrack and atmosphere is just peak IMO too. I love it so so much. Mine is plain but some of the special editions go hard too
3:00 2004 never existed… *disintegrates*
I appreciate your videos Scott’s Stash
God that recap of the early months of the 3DS took me back. I have both Steel Diver and the Tom Clancy one, both games I would never have looked at otherwise.
FOSSIL FIGHTERS MENTION! You gotta play Fossil Fighters
i always love when scott rightfully shits on the bad pokemon games and his comments become hell
I’m looking into making my own DS games I hope the modding community can keep it alive for years to come
I remember that Golden Sun 3 was released during the end of the DS.
Eu declaro apoio total ao scott the woz
eu também
I mean, tbh, new games on the old systems is normal for other companies too just not Nintendo's home consoles (after SNES at least). Every Playstation is somewhat alive long after the next one comes out, I think notable PS4 releases from big companies are STILL happening now.
The Wii also took forever to truly die
3ds/ds isn't really a good comparison to ps4/ps5, because a game has to have a massive budget to even require using the ps5's specs compared to ps4. though the conundrum is similar because the 3ds's improvements are mostly shown thru 3d games so if you're making a 2d sprite based game it will just work on the ds anyway
but, yeah. one thing scott seems to overlook in a lot of these videos is that nintendo is considering an entire market, not just people who keep up with the news. I didn't know about the DS till the DS lite, just like scott and I'm sure it was the same for the 3ds for a lot of people for awhile too
@@TheRenegade... that was just for the Just Dance games. Wii stopped receiving new major releases in summer 2012 which was nearly half a year before the Wii U launched.
I think this is the most I've ever seen Scott talk about pokemon, say zip-lash if you're being held hostage.
thanks scott
One other late DS release was Okamiden, around the same time as Pokemon Black and White. The Okami sequel(?). I distinctly remember hating how it looked on 3DS and going back to my DSi to keep playing it, though the circle pad was kinda nice for it.
So happy I subbed to all your channels it helps me recognize the childhood I lost
13:22 I got my original 3DS at the full retail price, and rolled the dice on when Nintendo's price cut would kick in. It did shortly afterwards so my Best Buy store did a price match, and I also got the free games from Nintendo and my Ambassador Certificate. It's still on my New 3DS, I transferred it over.
Nintendo's entire handheld lineup are my favorite consoles of all time. I'm glad they let them live on as long as they did. The switch is amazing, and I love it, but I miss having a "secondary system" that was tiny and had its entire own library
I loved kirby mass attack so much. You have no idea how much that game means to me.
Hot take: Nintendo supporting their old consoles at the same time as their recently released consoles was a good thing actually.
"What about that video description? Doesn't it say 'Die, DS, Die'?"
"No, that's German....for 'The DS, the'."
0:33 "Many of them are seen as starter video game consoles for Jungians out there."
The starter video game console for Freudians? The Dreamcast
ayyy
help scott you just killed me with the soundtrack i died of memory overload
I love the DS Lite.
I still have my small light blue DSi and I found both of my sisters old DS Phats back in June along with their old games and I had been collecting primarily first party DS games for the last few months that I never got to actually play
Tbf pokemon black and white originally came out in September 2010 but only in japan, they came to everywhere else in march 2011
I love hearing Scott acknowledge Fossil Fighters. We dont talk about Frontiers, but the first two on DS are criminally underrated.
Makes y’ll want to apologize to 3ds Mario and 3ds Pokemon
I think Scott underestimates how many people hang on to the old hardware for as long as they can, for financial reasons or otherwise. For as long as I've been playing games, I've never been able to afford upgrades immediately. I welcome the releases for old hardware lol
The whole idea behind unifying handheld and home console was that this would allow Nintendo to unify their development teams and platforms and that we would get more games on Switch than on 3DS and Wii U combined. Well that never happened. In fact we’re getting even less games than on both of those older consoles combined and EVEN LESS when you don’t consider Wii U ports as new games 😂. We used to get like one 3DS and one Wii U game per month and now we get maaaaybe one Switch game per month 😂 when we should have gotten like 3 Switch games per month almost every month. And no I’m not saying that all those games need to be AA or AAA games or that I would buy each game. But the thing is with Switch Nintendo has just completely abandoned small handheld-style games. There was like a brief period where they did put out some smaller games during Covid but that didn’t last. Where’s my Tokyo Crash Mobs? Weapon Shop de Omase? Kersplosh? Where’s all the crazy WiiWare and DSiWare stuff they used to do? Where is 3D Flipnotes? Where is Nintendo Letterbox? I don’t know what happened at Nintendo but with the generational shift away from people like Iwata, Miyamoto, Tezuka, and others just so much creativity got lost. 😢
i remember this, i spent the whole time trying to load 3ds games on my flashcart to no avail. i was too young to get how it worked
I went through a whole Pokémon rumble blast phase! 😭 I was crazy obsessed with it! Basically stalker level obsessed! Played it for over 500 hours in total
Next “the Nintendo switch just wouldn’t die”
Pokemon black and white released in Japan Sept of 2010
So it wasn't ever planned as a potential 3DS game
Same thing happened before with pokemon emerald that came on in japan 2004 but NA 2005
And black 2 and white 2 are more to not separate the sequels into different consoles
They did it with ultra sun and ultra moon after
ohhh my goodness the game Ive become obsessed with recently was Kirby Mass Attack and then bam, the game on the thumbnail.
thats why Nintendo handhelds are brimming with power (of longevity)
Right out of highschool in 2012 I got a purple 3ds and rumble blast it was mid, but 10 years later I got back into it and i can say I do enjoy rumble blast casually! Hahah
Man I always wanted that midnight purple 3ds but couldn’t afford it at the time. It’s such a nice color. Now they have the Galaxy new 3ds xl which is like a follow up to the midnight purple 3ds and I’ve been wanting that too even though I already have a N3ds
Unfortunately, I never had a 3DS. I had a Gameboy SP when I was 5, a DSi when I was 9, and a hand me down Gamecube when I was 11. So I never got have a 3DS or 2DS. I played a 3DS before snd thought it was very cool. Now Im 24 and it's like, man I wish I could have experience stuff like this growing up.
Gen 3 games on the DS and Gen 5 games on the 3DS are cool ideas for videos.
Okamiden it’s one of the best games on the DS.
Came out in 2010 in Japan and in 2011 elsewhere.
15:22 I love pokémon Rumble
Kirby Mass Attack is such a good game, very happy seeing it get some form of recognition, even if it's in the sense of "oh my god they released _another_ Kirby game for the DS after the 3DS launched"
Kirby Mass Attack is peak btw
I got my Gameboy Color, Advance, Advance SP, Nintendo DS, and New Nintendo 3DS at pawn shops throughout my life. And the great thing is, I still have all of them.