It probably never truly will for series X, least not in the way we’re used to. At this point that machine is just a cheap PC alternative. Which I do get some use out of, especially since CFB25 isn’t on PC. But it’s sad to see what’s become of Microsoft, and sadder still to watch them go through the motions knowing there’s no real future.
Same for me with the series X, I've always been a Nintendo gal and handled focused, haven't had a home console since the GameCube so I have a lot to catch up with
@@redspiderlilys6 as a ratchet and clank fan it was definitely worth it. However the Jak & Daxter fan side of me is still starving to death in the desert.
Scott's the only guy I know who'd make an hour analysis on a PlayStation and Xbox console while playing Mario music in the background, and I love him for it.
@@kenethernandez6246if you dont care about the very safe ps5 lineup and already have a ps4, you aint really missing out on much, i know the games can be good but its more or less the same of whats most of the time on ps4, but if you dont have a ps4, a ps5 is worth it. As Scott said: if they did something more ambigious it would be a lot more exciting im someone whos mainly played playstation my whole life and i just hope the ps5 has some good launches before it inevitably dies out, which i know is possible since sony has resources they just dont know how to use em
I really wanna be excited for the ps5 lineup but its just been meh so far and very safe (i could be wrong later who knows) also considering im just gonna mainly be playing the games i already play on my ps4 just maybe if im lucky, they load faster and possibly look a bit better too perhaps If anything ive been going back on my modded CFW ps3 any playing games i missed out on, and its been amazing and if you guys can i recommend you try something similar to that too!
I'm actually curious on what Scott's opinions on this generation is. Personally I hope they hold off on releasing a next gen console like a PS6, because I think console's life span needs to be longer, the usual 7 years is not going to cut it anymore. These consoles need like 10 years to get the most out of their system, especially as game development is getting longer.
Oh yes, absolutely; the generational gaps have to be a minimum of a decade now at this point, if not even a decade and a half! If I see a squeal console announced to be released before this decade is over?! OMG I can't even.....
Mannn the best point Scott makes here is the fact that companies are so adverse to just making a simple good game. No bullshit, no profit-chasing live service tactics, just a good game. I think the entire movie industry is dealing with this issue right now too... Movies are just rehashes of older ideas because everyone is too scared to either make something simple or fun, or try a new idea. I also love that indies have been getting more of a spotlight than ever, but there is still a part of me that misses that AA/mid-sized studio that we used to see a lot back in the day.
Wait, do you think big game companies make good games for the sake of good games instead of profit chasing? If a worse product makes more money, that's where the company is going to invest. This is basic capitalism
Exactly. I had my first PS4 back in 2015. Never touched bloodborne, the order 1886 or infamous, yet still was more than satisfied with cyber sleuth, MGS5, FF type-0, Disgaea 5, SF 5, Ratchet and Clank etc,
6:15 adendum. "These days if you are a console gamer you are a console gamer and you own a switch. If you are a pc gamer you're a pc gamer and you own a switch"
@@thechugg4372 that's jut not true. There are about 1 million steam decks in the wild, and 143.5 million Switch. Perhaps YOU have a deck as your second gaming choice, but do you seriously think that MOST people in the usa who have a second console it's the deck? Seriously? It's just a silly coment
@@KaitouKaiju Price being a big factor on that. Steamdeck is great to have a portable PC, but like, so is a laptop. If I'm spending anywhere from $350-$650 (and it'll be closer to that $650 figure, because storage of big PC games is invaluable), I'm just gonna buy a laptop that I already need and has multiple purposes besides gaming. Deck is a cool novelty, clearly inspired by Switch, but the price and exclusives of Switch kinda can't be beat. Steamdeck did release a cheaper model, but something about it has lost it's "cool, I need that" appeal over time.
I play my Series X way more than my PS5 just because of the greater backwards compatibility, honestly. Also it’s my Hitman machine. But that just shows how slow this generation has been if I’m largely playing old games…
Do not despair. Next years looks promising for XBox as many games were pushed to 2025-2026. However we are getting Indiana Jones in just a few weeks from now, which is something to consider looking forward to; I pre-ordered it last night.
Honestly my pc is not getting much use either. not much is coming out. my ps5 is mostly there just to play some of the back log of games i didn't play in the later half of the ps4's life cycle. I play poe and games like the first descendant but that's it. The main problem is companies are looking for money over making good games. BG3 which was made by a much smaller studio was a big slap in the face to most of the industry pushing live service and sequel trash.
"we dont need exclusives so we can now have consoles that are sold exclusively based on power" *we stop doing as many exclusives* "now consoles are useless because you can just play on PC"
I hate this so fucking much. "Exlysives are bad. Stop doing them" people will bitch, then when companies listen and make everything multi platform, people bitch that there's no reason to buy a specific platform. The more exclusives the better, give me a reason to buy into one consoles ecosystem. compete for my money
@@bt3743EXACTLY Competition breeds innovation, that’s been the cornerstone of the console ecosystem since the days of Nintendo vs Sega. If you can play every game on every console, only one can really support itself, which causes an assload of problems for the others. When companies sit on their laurels and are allowed to simply consolidate power, you get the same stagnant bullshit every single time because there’s no reason for games to stand out and break the mold.
@@bt3743You're mixing two different crowds. No one that I've seen complain about lack of exclusives is complaining about games going multiplatform and vice-versa.
@spencermaley4390 You are looking at this from an entirely wrong and illogical perspective. If every game came out on every console, then console manufacturers would actually have to seriously compete with each other to offer the most value and the better ecosystem to the end consumer. Not to mention how exclusivity just cannibalizes the sales of the actual game itself, this isn't viable in an industry where game development is a process that now takes 3-6 years and costs hundreds of millions of dollars for every title.
I don't think Xbox given up. It just seems like none of these companies care about competition anymore, they are just doing their own thing and they don't care about what competitors are doing.
Yeah I don’t think Xbox has given up. I agree with what everyone is saying that Xbox is trying to do, but I think they’re mistaking it for surrender. I think they’re just aiming to make it where Xbox is a service to make gaming accessible to everyone on a variety of platforms, and they just advertise Xbox consoles as the flagship way to play those games. I personally like the idea, and I’m not doodooing in my pants because some people on another platform get to play Halo or something. I like the idea, it feels innovative how you can play your Xbox games on your phone by streaming it, or if you don’t want the console, you can just get a fire stick or something. Are these really the most optimal ways to play? Not really. But I do find new tech innovations and ideas to be interesting, especially the way Xbox is expanding. I think the biggest issue is they just don’t have a lot of really groundbreaking first party games. Which I don’t care too much for, but it would be really great if they would just make a game that was decent for once in a while. I also like how Nintendo is doing its own thing as well which is just being the console for casuals or people who want to play with their friends and family. I like how games like Legend of Zelda and Mario are family friendly, but they still target everybody. Mainly the Mario in anyway, being advertised as a split screen game everybody plays at a party or something. And PlayStation is focused on story based games and such.
Feels like a fandom rivalry thing and they want the console wars to continue in perpetuity. Much like how people still think Marvel and DC are sworn enemies.
@ pretty much. I have a bunch of friends who are on PlayStation or PC or Nintendo but we get along. I don’t know why it matters to these people, maybe this is just a mutual understanding from both sides that they just want to keep this war going for the fun of it.
Hi-Fi Rush showed what is wrong with games right now by being an example of what could be right. It is a smaller game that looks great, plays well and appeals to a niche audience that was likely developed on a relatively smaller budget. It probably took 2 years to do from start to finish. That is great. And no, it isn't gonna be a 10 millio copy seller. It wasn't meant to be. And there we go. Other games are meant to be the 10 million+ copy sellers. So they pump 5 or more years into making them. They get the $400M budget's. And at that point... they are so expensive and such a time sink they are HAVE to succeed. And so they get focus grouped into utter blandness. And sure, they can be fun - but they are iterative on what is out there and not a leap in games. So we end up with a general feeling of "Yeah, it's okay but kinda boring." It's kinda like movies. Back in the 80's and even 90's there were loads of movies out there. All were medium budgets and so they just pumped them out and some were good and some were bad but they were able to just throw a lot out there to see what stuck. But by the 2000's every movie had to start being a $1B box office juggernaut and so releases dwindled to a tenth of what they were. And the ones coming out became expensive to make and so were made by committee. And sure - some are fun but nobody can claim that the feeling of a movie made by an assembly line has started to creep into them for a few years now. We need a company with deep pockets to enter the scene and just say "We are gonna spend $200M to make 15 games this year - have fun" and get back to seeing what sticks.
36:18 Hi Fi Rush was my game of the year in 2023, IDC what people say i love that game to pieces, and after i heard that Tango Gameworks got shutdown my heart didnt sink, it plummeted to the bottom of hell
I just finished listening to the podcast Firelink from Second Wind on this exact subject and added my input while they were doing it live. I've been doing PC and Switch gaming for years and got both a series X and a PS5 for different reasons separately, but with an ultimate goal of being console agnostic for this generation. It feels like that the needle just has not moved. Like, at all. It feels like more of the same that we've been for years on the first party front, with some unique hits in the second party front. Meanwhile, the indie scene is getting over saturated.
I love my Series X so much because it's my entire 360 library from ten years ago (minus Sonic Racing with B-K) on there, through One, all the way to XS. It's got Rare Replay, so many good multiplatform games from PS4-PS5, and I just really love and prefer that controller. Xbox is capable of doing so much better, but for some reason they won't. (Halo Infinite multiplayer is fun too for a free game)
I play Halo infinite quite a bit, it's pretty good now, but it's also on Xbox one. The only True next-gen game I owned was Jedi Survivor...which is now on Xbox one. They haven't truly taken advantage of their hardware. I pray that the UE Halo game turns out well!
As a fellow Ohioan, I am amazed y'all Michiganders do not know the joy of shopping at a Meijer. Uncultured state I guess. No wonder our Buckeyes whoop y'all every year.
@@aegisleague4053- That would basically hold back the PS6 because developers would be tempted to make a game closer to the previous consoles technical specifications in order to get the most sales, rather than making an excellent PS6 showcase that they will struggle to adapt to the older consoles? Square basically didn’t get their projected profits off the latest Final Fantasy 7 game because it WAS a PS5 only exclusive game and that led to them breaking up with the Sony exclusive paradigm.
@@aegisleague4053 - Thanks for the condescension, but product development isn’t rocket science. You make the unit that suits the most needs for the least money. That means that it’s economically more viable to make the lowest specification game they can for the widest user base and then simply do a bit of upscaling or technical finessing and claim it as THE redesigned and rebooted top tier game product for the latest generation of console gaming machine like PS5 Pro for example? It’s much easier and more cost effective to do that than to build a game specifically for the PS5 Pro and it’s smaller user base and then try to shoe horn that high spec game into a lower tech console like basic PS5 or even PS4. This is exactly the problem that has held Xbox Series X games back because they have to be able to run on the lower specifications of the Xbox Series S as well and the end result is that developers simply make the most basic specification of game that will tick just enough boxes to get that Xbox Series X top tier gaming title while actually being low key designed for the Xbox Series S and all that entails. Almost half of the Sony PlayStation PSN user base is still rocking a PS4 console and it’s much easier to design a PS4 game and buff it up a little to call it a PS5 reboot than to make a top tier PS5 game and then make it work somehow on lower spec consoles. This was a problem that CD Projekt RED had when trying to get their Cyberpunk 2077 game to run well on the older consoles.
Halo is the only reason I've stuck with Xbox since 360. I really like it and I thought I'd be really upset about the franchise moving on without me but then we got 5 and Infinite. I play a lot of MCC though
At least you use it for gaming. I use mine to play online with my friends, but my PS5 is literally just a streaming device/ blu ray player at this point. It’s got good games, but once you beat the big single player experiences, there’s little reason to replay them so soon
I dont think it's sunk in for Scott yet that the PS5 is entering its FIFTH year on the market. All that stuff about the PS4 not hitting its stride until 2016? 2016 was only the PS4's THIRD year.
scott i cant believe you overlooked the incredible success that was the playstation portal!! such a momentous hardware release has surely shaken up the industry!!
Remember how the dreamcast felt like a half step between the ps1 generation and ps2 generation? Thats how the ps5 and XSX feel. It still feels like we're waiting for the "real" next gen to launch. I think that's why this gen is gonna be a short gen
@@WH250398 There is no reason it couldn't have been made to read CDs as Blu ray drive hardware is backward compatible with CDs and DVDs by design. Even less of an excuse because Sony developed the CD format in the first place. They could literally release a patch tomorrow that adds CD support but it's not profitable for them to do so.
the fact that the PS5 Pro does not come with a disc drive by default, and is sold for more than an actual game now is absolutely ridiculous . They're providing the option to use physical games, but they might as well be extorting you to use them, because they REALLY want to go full on digital only in the future. Don't be surprised if this becomes the norm for consoles moving forward.
While I understand the position of "Playstation games are safe/too expensive/boring", it does seem insane with 65 million units sold, and people always getting hyped for new games, that the reaction is still 'meh'.
Most people who bother to comment on a video are part of a minority. They're just the loudest (sometimes most passionate). New folks are also introduced to gaming every year. So whatever you deem "safe" will be completely fresh for them. I myself am in the younger crowd. To not experience fatigue, I stick to one Sony "cinematic" game. That was God of War for me because I was already a fan of the Greek games, so I was invested.
The lifespan of consoles is getting longer and Sony and Microsoft tried to ignore that. PS5 and Xbox Series could have been launched this year instead of 4 years ago.
We need more variety like in the PS3 and PSVita generation. In fact, we really need a PSVita successor that ISNT entirely pointless. Nintendo needs some competition.
I just really dont like how similar this feels to the previous one. The Series X literally could've been a new version of the Xbox One and it could've made total sense
No one gonna talk about scalpers keep buying the consoles instead of gamers then when Xbox and Playstation release a games not many people has the console to play with?
I feel like the reason why Sony lost sight of how great they used to be with their games is because they try so hard to be like the other guys with its live service games maybe the greed for money idk. But its true that they used to release alot of great games in the PS3/PS4 era. Nintendo of course just release great single player games and dont try to test the waters with live service games
I just think Sony has ZERO idea what they're doing as of right now. Both Xbox and PlayStation have been so focused on graphics (and a lot of the gamer population...) that they forgot what makes games good.
@@bkirk0510 yup, great point. So many, myself included, will never own a Wii u but thanks to the ports to the completely different architecture, tons of games are available from that console too in better form on Switch!!
@@staringcorgi6475 remakes are different, I mean depending on how different the game feels and is but if you are releasing the same game at the core from years ago it needs to be priced accordingly, not like it had a brand new AAA development process
@@staringcorgi6475make them 50 dollars at the end of the day its still the same slop everyone played theres no way in hell silent snooze 2 is worth 70 bucks
I think ps users are a little upset over the remasters because ps keeps remastering the wrong games… there’s one game that deserves a remaster on the ps and I don’t even have to say what it is
Literally the only thing that sold me on either console this generation was Sonic Unleashed getting a 60 FPS patch on Xbox Series X|S. Nothing else either console offered was interesting enough for me to consider them, especially with having decent (for the time) gaming computers.
@@norbertoiiitadeo3184and you know Nintendo is gonna push the Switch successor in and say "don't like the performance of the games on switch? spend a couple hundred dollars on the successor!" since it has backwards compatibility
But there were mostly ports which is worthless to me because I already played these games so not much to look forward too besides prime 4. I’m glad that prime 4 is coming it’ll be the blockbuster that Nintendo needs even though back than Nintendo made much more of them in the GameCube and Wii era like we had mkwii and brawl back to back now doesn’t happen as much. No new Mario kart and ultimate is pretty old
If any PlayStation game came out that had performance as bad as Echoes of Wisdom or the new Mario and Luigi, it would become the laughing stock of the industry
ps5 needs more variety. I hope they keep making stuff like astro bot, bring back gravity rush, make another infamous, do something with bloodborne. I like the cinematic experiences that they do rn, but it can't only be that
Sony's only unique title this generation is Returnal and Scott forgot about it, pretty much sums up why they keep regurgitating the same ideas and games over and over. Astro bot was great as well tbf and I enjoyed Helldivers.
Budgets for modern games have gotten so out of hand that companies don't dare to greenlight anything new or unexpected. Spider Man 2 on PS5 was great but with a budget of 300 million dollars is it better than thirty 10 million dollar games, or even three hundred 1 million dollar games. Sure none of those would have the visual spectacle of Spider-Man 2, but it would give room for new exciting ideas that could bring the industry forward instead of letting it stagnate, and let's face it some of those games would be just as good or better than the AAA-budget game.
Rift apart was my system seller and it’s still my favorite game on the ps5 It does make me sad that many things are transitioning to digital only. I enjoy owning and collecting things
This generation is just so underwhelming. It feels like there’s absolutely nothing to get unless you’re looking at third parties. Every single game you could want to buy these consoles for is already coming to PC and even more of the games are just remasters of PS4 games. Hoping Sony and Microsoft can pick up the pace, because this generation only has a couple years left and I’m doubtful they can make a worthwhile lineup
A good reason for this is that game devolpment is taking so long these days. Square enix who delivered a lot of the masterpieces of the PlayStation are now taking a long time to make games like ff7 remake trilogy it took 4 years to make ffvii rebirth and for the final part it’ll take more time since it’ll include the rest of the game which is pretty huge and has a lot of plot if you played the original on ps1. By the time it releases the hardware of the ps5 will be outdated
Well a lot of the PS4's major hitters came after the 4 year mark. I recall a lot of people upgraded cause of GTA V online initially but really sunk their teeth into the PS4 exclusives during year 5. I think we need to wait to properly assess this gen
I think one big factor about this is that a bunch of big games suchs as GOW:R and Metaphor Re:Fantazio are also being released on the previous gen as well as current gen. It's also kinda sorta like a Wii U situation where tons of the games on Wii U were similar to what was on Wii or 3DS, which did not incentivize people to pick up the new machine. Also no price drops either. There also wasnt much of a graphical leap either, at least compared from something like PS1 to Ps2/PS2 to PS3 or N64 to GCN.
The amount of knowledge Scott have and research he does makes me respect him more with each video. Also his injection of personal experiences and witty humor, I could listen to him forever. Thanks for all the amazing content, Scott! Stay awesome!
As a console gamer since the NES 8 bit, this is probably the worst console generation for the lack of quality games! Even though I love the PS5 for being powerful, the Xbox Series X/S consoles are nothing more than a walled garden gaming PC! I feel like we’re in video game recession like in 1983-1985, we’re not getting single player AAA games like we did decades ago! Also F Xbox!
Nintendo figured this out back in the Wii: Pushing videogame graphics and visual fidelity any further is completrly pointless. The PS4 already looked stellar, and even if it didn't, we're pretty much at the limit of how pretty games can look without artistic direction. SOTC Remake, Trico, Ghost of Tsushima (even the PS4 ver.) look significantly better than any PS5 game just because they were made as art and not as playable tech demos. And even worse! With the PS5 Pro they're trying to sell you better AI Upscaling and framegen, which are the very definition of crutches. Meanwhile, Super Mario Wonder is significatly prettier than anything that came out this generation. Same goes for TotK -- Hell, even BotW. Since sloppy samey superhero games aren't as interesting for most peiple as sloppy samey superhero movies (both because they cost more and are longer) and graphics leaps aren't neraly as exciting anymore, the only viable solution i see is seeing videogames as art again. It's no wonder that aside from Nintendo games and one or other quirky first party from Sony and Xbox, every single actually interesting and innovative videogame has been an indie one. Funnily enough, casual gamers also have been more interested in indie games like stardew valley, terraria, etc. Because they are cheaper, more fun and because that demographic cares even less about pointless graphical advancement.
I'm left wondering why doesn't Sony or Xbox just make bite sized AA games? Like 'modernized' PS2 games in a way? They can experiment more without needing a crazy budget, they can give the games unique visuals without chasing after crazy high fidelity graphics, and they can most importantly just focus on making fun, good games. Do players really want more of the same AAA 3rd person open world games? Surely if these guys marketed and published these smaller, but great experiences people will give them a chance. If it's really true that "gamers are stupid and will eat anything they put out" why not maker smaller, cheaper games? 300+ million for a single game is fucking ridiculous and surely is hindering potential profits.
I love how this drops the same day Sony announced we will get at least one big in house single player game pr year... Wooooow Sony... One?? Are you sure you are not spoiling us? Remember when games had trilogies on the same console
@@spencermaley4390 Every PlayStation has been successful because it’s been the cheap option to play the widest variety of games. Sony’s failure this generation was not being affordable enough. More first party games would have helped a little, but when the majority of people buy your consoles for CoD and 2K, affordability is the most critical.
As an Xbox fan, I have to agree. The first party department has been lacking on Xbox. Scott described it perfectly too, modern Halo feels like a corporate entity that just exists, “appeals” to what’s popular in video games today but doesn’t really have much passion in it. I’m just sticking with Xbox cause it was my first major console, and I don’t want to lose all my progress, friends, and purchases. Plus Xbox still has some selling points for me, primarily backwards compatibility, quick resume, and I’m not the biggest fan of PlayStation exclusives to the point where I’ll buy a PS5 and take up space that could’ve been used for a Nintendo Switch or something. But I still enjoy Halo the Master Chief Collection, Halo Infinite is an occasional pleasure to play with my friends, and I actually enjoyed Starfield. People wanted something vastly different, I personally liked the way Bethesda did their RPGs in the past and didn’t want them to change too much. Plus, since games like Elder Scrolls 6 are coming to Xbox and PC only, yeah. But, even then Xbox could be doing better. I liked Starfield, but I’d still take Skyrim or Fallout in a heartbeat. Halo Infinite I’ll install for a few months, get bored, and don’t play it again for a year. It seems like there’s not much hope for Halo’s future right now. To be honest, once I get the money, I’m getting a PC. I’ll keep an Xbox or Nintendo console for casual play or split screen with my friends and family, but I’d prefer a PC. It gets both consoles’ games anyway these days, no online subscription fee, mod capabilities, indie and fan games not available on console, emulation, and I can always upgrade it to keep up with future games. But for now, I’m sticking with Xbox as my primary console, and Nintendo secondary. But both PlayStation and Xbox aren’t like they used to be in the 6th and 7th generation. Nintendo has been completely consistent at least.
The problem is everyone with a platform (influencers) are so fucking cynical about every single video game and spout bullshit drama over literal nothing, it sucks all the hype out.
I don’t think that’s true at all tbh, drama and hype go hand in hand. Like… I’ve not heard a damn thing about the PSVR2, good or bad. Compare that to something like Mario andLuigi Brothership, which is coming with a lot of hype *and* a lot of controversy.
I agree with the Gamepass value. I used to swear on gamepass, but I found myself mostly playing longer games like RPGs... and if you play one game at a time which'll take you a few months to beat, it's not worth it.... so I started collecting physical Xbox games, since they go DIRT CHEAP. From Persona, to Nier, to Final Fantasy, to Dragon Quest, to Kingdom Hearts, to Gears, to Forza, to Halo...lots of good stuff on there.
The only reason to get a PS5 was FFVII Rebirth. The (probably) 2 years of exclusivity was supposed to sell a lot of systems. Because Rebirth was made in Unreal, it could have been released on PC same day, but Sony knew they had nothing else
I’m a Nintendo gamer since 35 years. Last year I got an Xbox series X and I love it. You nailed it it when you said “for the person who doesn’t care”. I really don’t. Game pass is amazing, the controller is great, quick resume is great and the series S is great for less money.
Man, I want to thank you. You are so good at this. I know this looks just like another retrospective, but it is blueprint what information should be. Down to earth, unbiased, relaxed, knowledgeable. I enjoyed watching this and I will watch this again, because I am so tired of somebody on RUclips or news trying to sell me some product or lifestyle. This is just friendly talk from your side. Thank you.
BTW the median Opencritic score of an Xbox published game is 83.5. The median score of a PlayStation published game is 85. The quality of releases aren’t that far off in quality honestly it’s the genres they’re doing them in. Hifi rush, pentiment, and grounded are genuinely some of my favorite games of the decade but are those games going to have the same mass appeal of horizon? I personally think I’d much rather play any of those three of either horizon game but if I asked any casual gamer it’s going to be the opposite. Xbox doesn’t need to improve the quality of their games necessarily they need to improve their presence in the AAA story adventure space. I hope next year with Doom, Fable, and Avowed something actually hits and this generation can start to feel competitive. Literally all of my favorite PlayStation 5 games have been either cross play titles I didn’t need to upgrade for or stuff that was timed and has or will hit PC very soon. Just an overall disappointing generation.
25:20 Same happened with Toy Story 3, the PS3 version is a hidden gem but instead they farted out the PSP version on PS Plus, needless to say the reviews aren't great on it, there's also a few other games that had PS2 versions that randomly got the PSP versions rereleased for some reason.
I got my series x from launch and it was an upgrade from the xbox one s.a.d(one S all digital), and yet i haven't felt like there's this pinnacle moment of next generation, there's alot from the lost of creativity and shock factor. I should probably get a pc.
I think the series s is a phenomenal budget console and a great console to get if you can't afford a higher end console or a pc. But the series x? Just save up for a pc at that point, it's essentially a pc in a box but much more limited with what you can do with it.
I'm still chilling in the 8th generation, I will upgrade when the time is right and my backlog is complete 😎 or someone comes out with something crazy, then I'll be swayed lol.
I feel like Microsoft made a bad move halting their free backwards compatibility updates. It was awesome for me playing older games at 60 or even 120 fps with updated resolutions and HDR. It made most games feel like new and saved so much money compared to Sony's remaster approach
I have a 360 , ps3 and the switch. I love my 360 because of backwards compatibility. Found ultimate Spider-Man on original Xbox but you’re right them abandoning updates has stopped me from even buying some older games
Exactly! My kids got Game Pass with their Xbox Series S for Christmas and it was awesome because they had so many older games that I fell in love with games I played years ago. Someone could literally play the entire history of Xbox with free updates compared to Nintendo re-releasing (for the 200th time) Super Mario Bros on the Switches predecessor for $20
It feels like this generation still hasn't even started for PS5 and Xbox Series X
Because they're like just now putting out next gen exclusives lol.
It probably never truly will for series X, least not in the way we’re used to. At this point that machine is just a cheap PC alternative. Which I do get some use out of, especially since CFB25 isn’t on PC. But it’s sad to see what’s become of Microsoft, and sadder still to watch them go through the motions knowing there’s no real future.
My 8th gen started when everyone else’s 9th gen started, I got an Xbox one in 2021
and it probably won't. next thing before you even know it leaks and rumors of next gen consoles come out spiraling and ps6 is out.
Ps2 had more relevant titles in 4 years. Three grand theft autos, final fantasy X, kingdom hearts, two grand turismos yeah you get it
As someone who didn’t have a PS4 when it was relevant, my PS5 is currently just a PS4 Pro. I barely have any PS5 games, but tons of PS4 stuff.
I only have four games. Two are PS5, two are PS4.
I have a ps4. The only reason I would buy a ps5 is for spiderman 2, and that’s coming to pc anyway so now I have no reason to buy a ps5
Sameeee I’ve never had a PlayStation console before the ps5 and my collection right now is like 90% ps4 games.
Same for me with the series X, I've always been a Nintendo gal and handled focused, haven't had a home console since the GameCube so I have a lot to catch up with
@@redspiderlilys6 as a ratchet and clank fan it was definitely worth it. However the Jak & Daxter fan side of me is still starving to death in the desert.
HES IN ENEMY TERRITORY, HES IN ENEMY TERRITORY!!!!
I always appreciate him giving attention to non-Nintendo stuff. He plays and enjoys a lot more than just that.
@ Maybe it’s the reason Scott barely plays his Nintendo games and only buys them
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HE'S COURTING THE DEVILS
@@muovikallo Ooooooo you’re getting frightened by shooters/social infrastructure/online gameplay Ooooooo
Scott's the only guy I know who'd make an hour analysis on a PlayStation and Xbox console while playing Mario music in the background, and I love him for it.
Do any of the Sony/Microsoft exclusives have OST's that make for really good background music like Nintendo does?
@shehzadyousaf7918 very recent, but Astrobot
@@shehzadyousaf7918lbp or ape escape ost
Eyyy, bro. I like your profile pic!
What background music can you take from Sony or Microsoft?
The ps5 is for the person that never bought a ps4.
Literally me. I never had a PS4 and I really wanted a PS5, I got one 2 days ago
I had a ps4 but only used it for Spider-Man and fortnite, bought a ps5 for Spider-Man 2 but I am now actually exploring the ps4's library
I don't see Returnal, Stellar blade, Rift Apart, Spider-man 2, Astrobot, ROTR and Helldivers on ps4.
@@kenethernandez6246if you dont care about the very safe ps5 lineup and already have a ps4, you aint really missing out on much, i know the games can be good but its more or less the same of whats most of the time on ps4, but if you dont have a ps4, a ps5 is worth it. As Scott said: if they did something more ambigious it would be a lot more exciting
im someone whos mainly played playstation my whole life and i just hope the ps5 has some good launches before it inevitably dies out, which i know is possible since sony has resources they just dont know how to use em
I really wanna be excited for the ps5 lineup but its just been meh so far and very safe (i could be wrong later who knows) also considering im just gonna mainly be playing the games i already play on my ps4 just maybe if im lucky, they load faster and possibly look a bit better too perhaps
If anything ive been going back on my modded CFW ps3 any playing games i missed out on, and its been amazing and if you guys can i recommend you try something similar to that too!
I'm actually curious on what Scott's opinions on this generation is. Personally I hope they hold off on releasing a next gen console like a PS6, because I think console's life span needs to be longer, the usual 7 years is not going to cut it anymore. These consoles need like 10 years to get the most out of their system, especially as game development is getting longer.
Oh yes, absolutely; the generational gaps have to be a minimum of a decade now at this point, if not even a decade and a half! If I see a squeal console announced to be released before this decade is over?! OMG I can't even.....
I haven't even moved on from the ps4. I mean, we're still getting great games from third parties, so I feel no urgency.
Leave it to Scott to have a nuanced take on PS5 and not just say it has no games lmao
"I'm actually curious on what Scott's opinions on this generation is."
Have you tried watching the video or...
@@DiscordedHaru You know the video is like an hour long, and my comment was posted an hour ago. Guess what I've been doing for the past hour 🙄
Mannn the best point Scott makes here is the fact that companies are so adverse to just making a simple good game. No bullshit, no profit-chasing live service tactics, just a good game. I think the entire movie industry is dealing with this issue right now too... Movies are just rehashes of older ideas because everyone is too scared to either make something simple or fun, or try a new idea. I also love that indies have been getting more of a spotlight than ever, but there is still a part of me that misses that AA/mid-sized studio that we used to see a lot back in the day.
I think HD development costs have made AA projects simply unfeasible. You're better off looking for higher end indies.
It's why the smash hits lately have come from smaller studios and big studios willing to make a 15 million dollar movie or a smaller scale game.
Wait, do you think big game companies make good games for the sake of good games instead of profit chasing?
If a worse product makes more money, that's where the company is going to invest. This is basic capitalism
We're 4 years into the generation and most people still call it "next-gen"
This generation has to last longer than any before, there is no point for a PS6 or Xbox (insert X name here). Like not for 5+ years at least
Because XB1 and PS4 only stopped getting first party games last year and PS4 is still getting third party games because the install base is huge
Probably because last-gen is still getting tons of games.
Maybe because, like me, they haven't bought into it yet.
@@KaitouKaiju Black Ops 6 just came out for both gens.
I think I’ve beaten more 360 games on my series X than I did on my 360 in the 00s
Not Scott showing Bloodborne footage but pretending there was nothing but Infamous and Order 1886 in the PS4's first few years 💀
Right? 😂
I mean he’s right, there was barely any games out the first 4 years the ps4 had games only from like 2018-2020
Bloodborne was the only game people cared about on PS4
Exactly. I had my first PS4 back in 2015. Never touched bloodborne, the order 1886 or infamous, yet still was more than satisfied with cyber sleuth, MGS5, FF type-0, Disgaea 5, SF 5, Ratchet and Clank etc,
Yeah when he said that comment about “nothing until 2016” my very first thought was “wait wtf wasn’t Bloodborne 2015??”
6:15 adendum. "These days if you are a console gamer you are a console gamer and you own a switch. If you are a pc gamer you're a pc gamer and you own a switch"
Replace switch with steam deck if you are in america
@@thechugg4372 that's jut not true. There are about 1 million steam decks in the wild, and 143.5 million Switch. Perhaps YOU have a deck as your second gaming choice, but do you seriously think that MOST people in the usa who have a second console it's the deck? Seriously? It's just a silly coment
@@thechugg4372Idk man, i only own a steam deck and a switch.
@@thechugg4372 Nah, steam deck is definitely not a replacement for Switch as a casual gaming machine
@@KaitouKaiju Price being a big factor on that. Steamdeck is great to have a portable PC, but like, so is a laptop. If I'm spending anywhere from $350-$650 (and it'll be closer to that $650 figure, because storage of big PC games is invaluable), I'm just gonna buy a laptop that I already need and has multiple purposes besides gaming. Deck is a cool novelty, clearly inspired by Switch, but the price and exclusives of Switch kinda can't be beat. Steamdeck did release a cheaper model, but something about it has lost it's "cool, I need that" appeal over time.
I play my Series X way more than my PS5 just because of the greater backwards compatibility, honestly. Also it’s my Hitman machine. But that just shows how slow this generation has been if I’m largely playing old games…
Agreed. The only next gen game I played on Xbox was Jedi Survivor, which just came out on Xbox one.
Do not despair. Next years looks promising for XBox as many games were pushed to 2025-2026. However we are getting Indiana Jones in just a few weeks from now, which is something to consider looking forward to; I pre-ordered it last night.
Honestly my pc is not getting much use either. not much is coming out. my ps5 is mostly there just to play some of the back log of games i didn't play in the later half of the ps4's life cycle. I play poe and games like the first descendant but that's it. The main problem is companies are looking for money over making good games. BG3 which was made by a much smaller studio was a big slap in the face to most of the industry pushing live service and sequel trash.
im in the same boat to be honest. I just bought sonic unleashed because apparently it's 60fps.
@@Kaiber132 let me tell you, I do not have a PS5 nor a Xbox, but I'm honestly inclined to buy a Series S just to play Unleashed in a smooth 60fps
PS5: No Games
XBOX Series X: Even Less Games
Xbox: "you guys are getting games?"
How can there be less than 0??
@@chrisnguyen2316ever heard of negative numbers
@@MisterHand76 whats that
but you can play the games on your pc :)
"we dont need exclusives so we can now have consoles that are sold exclusively based on power"
*we stop doing as many exclusives*
"now consoles are useless because you can just play on PC"
I hate this so fucking much. "Exlysives are bad. Stop doing them" people will bitch, then when companies listen and make everything multi platform, people bitch that there's no reason to buy a specific platform. The more exclusives the better, give me a reason to buy into one consoles ecosystem. compete for my money
@@bt3743EXACTLY
Competition breeds innovation, that’s been the cornerstone of the console ecosystem since the days of Nintendo vs Sega. If you can play every game on every console, only one can really support itself, which causes an assload of problems for the others. When companies sit on their laurels and are allowed to simply consolidate power, you get the same stagnant bullshit every single time because there’s no reason for games to stand out and break the mold.
@@bt3743You're mixing two different crowds. No one that I've seen complain about lack of exclusives is complaining about games going multiplatform and vice-versa.
@spencermaley4390 You are looking at this from an entirely wrong and illogical perspective. If every game came out on every console, then console manufacturers would actually have to seriously compete with each other to offer the most value and the better ecosystem to the end consumer. Not to mention how exclusivity just cannibalizes the sales of the actual game itself, this isn't viable in an industry where game development is a process that now takes 3-6 years and costs hundreds of millions of dollars for every title.
and good. there is no point unless you can own your games and no one really likes the clutter and hoarding to do that.
I don't think Xbox given up. It just seems like none of these companies care about competition anymore, they are just doing their own thing and they don't care about what competitors are doing.
Yeah I don’t think Xbox has given up. I agree with what everyone is saying that Xbox is trying to do, but I think they’re mistaking it for surrender. I think they’re just aiming to make it where Xbox is a service to make gaming accessible to everyone on a variety of platforms, and they just advertise Xbox consoles as the flagship way to play those games. I personally like the idea, and I’m not doodooing in my pants because some people on another platform get to play Halo or something. I like the idea, it feels innovative how you can play your Xbox games on your phone by streaming it, or if you don’t want the console, you can just get a fire stick or something. Are these really the most optimal ways to play? Not really. But I do find new tech innovations and ideas to be interesting, especially the way Xbox is expanding.
I think the biggest issue is they just don’t have a lot of really groundbreaking first party games. Which I don’t care too much for, but it would be really great if they would just make a game that was decent for once in a while. I also like how Nintendo is doing its own thing as well which is just being the console for casuals or people who want to play with their friends and family. I like how games like Legend of Zelda and Mario are family friendly, but they still target everybody. Mainly the Mario in anyway, being advertised as a split screen game everybody plays at a party or something. And PlayStation is focused on story based games and such.
Feels like a fandom rivalry thing and they want the console wars to continue in perpetuity. Much like how people still think Marvel and DC are sworn enemies.
@ pretty much. I have a bunch of friends who are on PlayStation or PC or Nintendo but we get along. I don’t know why it matters to these people, maybe this is just a mutual understanding from both sides that they just want to keep this war going for the fun of it.
Hi-Fi Rush showed what is wrong with games right now by being an example of what could be right. It is a smaller game that looks great, plays well and appeals to a niche audience that was likely developed on a relatively smaller budget. It probably took 2 years to do from start to finish. That is great. And no, it isn't gonna be a 10 millio copy seller. It wasn't meant to be. And there we go.
Other games are meant to be the 10 million+ copy sellers. So they pump 5 or more years into making them. They get the $400M budget's. And at that point... they are so expensive and such a time sink they are HAVE to succeed. And so they get focus grouped into utter blandness. And sure, they can be fun - but they are iterative on what is out there and not a leap in games. So we end up with a general feeling of "Yeah, it's okay but kinda boring."
It's kinda like movies. Back in the 80's and even 90's there were loads of movies out there. All were medium budgets and so they just pumped them out and some were good and some were bad but they were able to just throw a lot out there to see what stuck. But by the 2000's every movie had to start being a $1B box office juggernaut and so releases dwindled to a tenth of what they were. And the ones coming out became expensive to make and so were made by committee. And sure - some are fun but nobody can claim that the feeling of a movie made by an assembly line has started to creep into them for a few years now.
We need a company with deep pockets to enter the scene and just say "We are gonna spend $200M to make 15 games this year - have fun" and get back to seeing what sticks.
That's honestly such a good idea. Like get a bunch of AA studios to make a UFO 50
it actually took 5 years to develop, but i wouldn't expect scott the woz commenters to know what they're talking about
36:18 Hi Fi Rush was my game of the year in 2023, IDC what people say i love that game to pieces, and after i heard that Tango Gameworks got shutdown my heart didnt sink, it plummeted to the bottom of hell
Don’t worry, Krafton brought it back.
I just finished listening to the podcast Firelink from Second Wind on this exact subject and added my input while they were doing it live.
I've been doing PC and Switch gaming for years and got both a series X and a PS5 for different reasons separately, but with an ultimate goal of being console agnostic for this generation.
It feels like that the needle just has not moved. Like, at all. It feels like more of the same that we've been for years on the first party front, with some unique hits in the second party front.
Meanwhile, the indie scene is getting over saturated.
Two Scott videos on two separate channels, what a deal .
Gluck gluck gluck.
It was a yootooz giveaway video champ
@ Still a Scott video, dude
@ Gluck Gluck sucky sucky
I love my Series X so much because it's my entire 360 library from ten years ago (minus Sonic Racing with B-K) on there, through One, all the way to XS. It's got Rare Replay, so many good multiplatform games from PS4-PS5, and I just really love and prefer that controller.
Xbox is capable of doing so much better, but for some reason they won't. (Halo Infinite multiplayer is fun too for a free game)
I play Halo infinite quite a bit, it's pretty good now, but it's also on Xbox one. The only True next-gen game I owned was Jedi Survivor...which is now on Xbox one. They haven't truly taken advantage of their hardware. I pray that the UE Halo game turns out well!
Too bad the dpad sucks because it’s clicky and not mushy which severely hurts the durability. Thank goodness for third party controllers
Yeah I prefer 360 games anyway at least now some of them have FPS and resolution boosts
twisted metal not being active right now is fucking bonkers
What about Destruction All-Stars? Seriously, what about it?
Notice how there’s no Xbox games in the thumbnail. This is a nod towards the fact that Xbox has no games. Bravo Scott!
Well it's the only modern console that lets me play cars 2 the videogame legally
Ps5 literally has negative games with Concord in the thumbnail.
@ We got Astro-Bot. Checkmate.
@@spangyboi congratulations you now have 0 games instead of -1
@@JacqueBibblequip At least our first party games are actually good lol unlike that vampire slop, dead game halo, starshit and Senua’s Mid
As a Michigander, hearing Scott say he walked into a Meijer caught my attention, and then I remembered...
He's an Ohioan.
As a fellow Ohioan, I am amazed y'all Michiganders do not know the joy of shopping at a Meijer. Uncultured state I guess. No wonder our Buckeyes whoop y'all every year.
Of the two I’d say I care more for PS5, but I do wonder what the heck they could even do afterwards, especially when the PS5 pro requires a mortgage.
Make a PS6 and keep selling games for 4 and 5 at lower specs like how phones and computers work
@@aegisleague4053- That would basically hold back the PS6 because developers would be tempted to make a game closer to the previous consoles technical specifications in order to get the most sales, rather than making an excellent PS6 showcase that they will struggle to adapt to the older consoles?
Square basically didn’t get their projected profits off the latest Final Fantasy 7 game because it WAS a PS5 only exclusive game and that led to them breaking up with the Sony exclusive paradigm.
@@PaulusAlone you don’t really know how development works, do you?
@@aegisleague4053 - Thanks for the condescension, but product development isn’t rocket science.
You make the unit that suits the most needs for the least money.
That means that it’s economically more viable to make the lowest specification game they can for the widest user base and then simply do a bit of upscaling or technical finessing and claim it as THE redesigned and rebooted top tier game product for the latest generation of console gaming machine like PS5 Pro for example?
It’s much easier and more cost effective to do that than to build a game specifically for the PS5 Pro and it’s smaller user base and then try to shoe horn that high spec game into a lower tech console like basic PS5 or even PS4.
This is exactly the problem that has held Xbox Series X games back because they have to be able to run on the lower specifications of the Xbox Series S as well and the end result is that developers simply make the most basic specification of game that will tick just enough boxes to get that Xbox Series X top tier gaming title while actually being low key designed for the Xbox Series S and all that entails. Almost half of the Sony PlayStation PSN user base is still rocking a PS4 console and it’s much easier to design a PS4 game and buff it up a little to call it a PS5 reboot than to make a top tier PS5 game and then make it work somehow on lower spec consoles. This was a problem that CD Projekt RED had when trying to get their Cyberpunk 2077 game to run well on the older consoles.
My Series X is literally just a Halo, Rare, and Forza machine at this point.
Halo hasn't been good since Halo Reach.
Halo is the only reason I've stuck with Xbox since 360. I really like it and I thought I'd be really upset about the franchise moving on without me but then we got 5 and Infinite. I play a lot of MCC though
At least you use it for gaming. I use mine to play online with my friends, but my PS5 is literally just a streaming device/ blu ray player at this point. It’s got good games, but once you beat the big single player experiences, there’s little reason to replay them so soon
Same here, it’s literally a halo and gears of war machine and playing old Xbox 360 titles I never got to play
@@wachinimagaming4898 sounds like a you problem so many good ps5 ganes that aren't on Xbox
As someone who skipped the ps3/ps4 generation, the ps5 is awesome
I skipped the PS4 generation, and PS5 was so underwhelming for me that I got a PC instead, lol
Though it's amazing that you are enjoying the console.
You know saying "ive never eaten in a restaurant so mc donalds is awesome" isnt the best defense
same, loving my ps5 cuz of all the games I missed
This console wont play ps3. So its worst than advertised.
@@PedroSavioo it was never advertised to play PS3 games?
I dont think it's sunk in for Scott yet that the PS5 is entering its FIFTH year on the market. All that stuff about the PS4 not hitting its stride until 2016? 2016 was only the PS4's THIRD year.
scott i cant believe you overlooked the incredible success that was the playstation portal!! such a momentous hardware release has surely shaken up the industry!!
Remember how the dreamcast felt like a half step between the ps1 generation and ps2 generation? Thats how the ps5 and XSX feel. It still feels like we're waiting for the "real" next gen to launch. I think that's why this gen is gonna be a short gen
Should call this channel “Scott’s Hands”
Sony not letting us use there official ps1 or ps2 emulators to play older games we have on disk pisses me off.
Ps1 makes sense though, the ps5 drive can't read cd's. But ps2 should have been done.
Their loss. Alternative methods are the only choice thanks to them
@@WH250398 There is no reason it couldn't have been made to read CDs as Blu ray drive hardware is backward compatible with CDs and DVDs by design. Even less of an excuse because Sony developed the CD format in the first place. They could literally release a patch tomorrow that adds CD support but it's not profitable for them to do so.
@@WH250398even the damn xbox series x can read CDs, there's no excuse to not include it on PS4 and PS5
the fact that the PS5 Pro does not come with a disc drive by default, and is sold for more than an actual game now is absolutely ridiculous . They're providing the option to use physical games, but they might as well be extorting you to use them, because they REALLY want to go full on digital only in the future. Don't be surprised if this becomes the norm for consoles moving forward.
I know it's multiplad, but Robocop Rogue City is a fantastic game on both PS5 and Series S/X!
i like to think scott films these on laying on his tummy, kicking his feet and twirling his hair lol
Shout out to when Xbox announced Silksong would come out within a year of that one showcase and it's been two years since that announcement...
Every other Playstation generation: Hits half way mark, console gets cheaper.
This Playstation generation: Hits half way mark...price increase
PS3 was a lot more expensive than PS2
@@hammerboycb PS3 launched at 599 US DOLLARS and halfway through the gen you could get the Pro at launch for $399
That’s how you know Sony knows they are market dominant
While I understand the position of "Playstation games are safe/too expensive/boring", it does seem insane with 65 million units sold, and people always getting hyped for new games, that the reaction is still 'meh'.
Eh, vocal minority I guess. At the end of the day it’s the die-hards that watch stuff like this and partake in gaming-era talk.
Most people who bother to comment on a video are part of a minority. They're just the loudest (sometimes most passionate).
New folks are also introduced to gaming every year. So whatever you deem "safe" will be completely fresh for them. I myself am in the younger crowd. To not experience fatigue, I stick to one Sony "cinematic" game. That was God of War for me because I was already a fan of the Greek games, so I was invested.
Most people are happy that it plays the newest cod and fifa
The lifespan of consoles is getting longer and Sony and Microsoft tried to ignore that. PS5 and Xbox Series could have been launched this year instead of 4 years ago.
We need more variety like in the PS3 and PSVita generation.
In fact, we really need a PSVita successor that ISNT entirely pointless. Nintendo needs some competition.
It’s not a sucessor with the vita with that logic the Wii U gamepad is the successor to the DS or GBA
what isnt a sucessor to the vita?
Honestly, the Switch feels like the Ps Vita if it had proper support.
@@WH250398yeah but Nintendo has no gta or anything like that
I just really dont like how similar this feels to the previous one. The Series X literally could've been a new version of the Xbox One and it could've made total sense
No one gonna talk about scalpers keep buying the consoles instead of gamers then when Xbox and Playstation release a games not many people has the console to play with?
Scalping is dead pretty much. People scalped the ps5 pro and they’re losing.
@staringcorgi6475 good
@@staringcorgi6475hopefully they can pay off all that credit card debt
That only happen during Ps5 release.
Bring back Ape Escape! DO NOT FORGET SLY COOPER!
Sony has a lot they should bring back. For me, it's Twisted Metal, Forbidden Siren, InFamous & Gravity Rush.
🎵 SHOT THROUGH THE HEART, AND YOU'RE TO BLAME, DARLIN', PS5... HAS NO GAMES 🎵
Xbox has no games
@@KevinFoughtor a better fit 🎵xbox one has no games🎵
🎵 ONE GAME, I DON’T KNOW WHY 🎵
🎵 I BOUGHT A PS5 WITH NO GAMES TO BUY 🎵
what song is that? Like, the actual song- I can't for the love of hell think of the name
@@Spectre77X”you give love a bad name” bon jovi
im in the middle of ripping my giant DVD collection and keeping the files on my plex server.
Plex is for scrubs
Who the f*ck cares
I feel like the reason why Sony lost sight of how great they used to be with their games is because they try so hard to be like the other guys with its live service games maybe the greed for money idk. But its true that they used to release alot of great games in the PS3/PS4 era. Nintendo of course just release great single player games and dont try to test the waters with live service games
I just think Sony has ZERO idea what they're doing as of right now.
Both Xbox and PlayStation have been so focused on graphics (and a lot of the gamer population...) that they forgot what makes games good.
@dizzykitteh nintendo does not and cannot have graphically intensive games. It has been this way for decades.
I feel like the only way to have this option is if you only play on the switch lol
The PS4 Pro Plus and the Xbox One X Plus Generation.
13:50 People in places that don’t have Playstation network are pretty pissed about this
This generation has been the best for people with a PC and switch lmfao
The Switch is the absolute king of re-releases.
@@bkirk0510 yup, great point. So many, myself included, will never own a Wii u but thanks to the ports to the completely different architecture, tons of games are available from that console too in better form on Switch!!
Remasters are fine they just need to be cheaper, $40 max
But what about remakes like ff7 that are very different and play differently than the originals
@@staringcorgi6475companies would just call everything a remake
@@staringcorgi6475that's why he said remasters and not remake
@@staringcorgi6475 remakes are different, I mean depending on how different the game feels and is but if you are releasing the same game at the core from years ago it needs to be priced accordingly, not like it had a brand new AAA development process
@@staringcorgi6475make them 50 dollars at the end of the day its still the same slop everyone played theres no way in hell silent snooze 2 is worth 70 bucks
I think ps users are a little upset over the remasters because ps keeps remastering the wrong games… there’s one game that deserves a remaster on the ps and I don’t even have to say what it is
17:42 HEAVENLY SWORD'S FIRST MENTION SINCE 2012 LETS GOOOOOOO
Literally the only thing that sold me on either console this generation was Sonic Unleashed getting a 60 FPS patch on Xbox Series X|S. Nothing else either console offered was interesting enough for me to consider them, especially with having decent (for the time) gaming computers.
Of all the games, really? That one?
I literally left the PS5 and the Xbox Series X for the Steam Deck OLED, and I couldn’t be happier
Give the Nintendo Switch this, it always has new exclusive games coming out that are mostly of good quality.
Bias aside, a lot of their new exclusives have been suffering in performance
@@norbertoiiitadeo3184and you know Nintendo is gonna push the Switch successor in and say "don't like the performance of the games on switch? spend a couple hundred dollars on the successor!" since it has backwards compatibility
But there were mostly ports which is worthless to me because I already played these games so not much to look forward too besides prime 4. I’m glad that prime 4 is coming it’ll be the blockbuster that Nintendo needs even though back than Nintendo made much more of them in the GameCube and Wii era like we had mkwii and brawl back to back now doesn’t happen as much. No new Mario kart and ultimate is pretty old
If any PlayStation game came out that had performance as bad as Echoes of Wisdom or the new Mario and Luigi, it would become the laughing stock of the industry
@@ericbaker8781 Performance isn't everything, as Nintendo has repeatedly demonstrated. Having said that, I'm still waiting for the Switch 2...
ps5 needs more variety. I hope they keep making stuff like astro bot, bring back gravity rush, make another infamous, do something with bloodborne. I like the cinematic experiences that they do rn, but it can't only be that
Sony's only unique title this generation is Returnal and Scott forgot about it, pretty much sums up why they keep regurgitating the same ideas and games over and over. Astro bot was great as well tbf and I enjoyed Helldivers.
Good job with the editing, Sam!
Budgets for modern games have gotten so out of hand that companies don't dare to greenlight anything new or unexpected. Spider Man 2 on PS5 was great but with a budget of 300 million dollars is it better than thirty 10 million dollar games, or even three hundred 1 million dollar games. Sure none of those would have the visual spectacle of Spider-Man 2, but it would give room for new exciting ideas that could bring the industry forward instead of letting it stagnate, and let's face it some of those games would be just as good or better than the AAA-budget game.
Rift apart was my system seller and it’s still my favorite game on the ps5
It does make me sad that many things are transitioning to digital only. I enjoy owning and collecting things
This generation is just so underwhelming. It feels like there’s absolutely nothing to get unless you’re looking at third parties. Every single game you could want to buy these consoles for is already coming to PC and even more of the games are just remasters of PS4 games. Hoping Sony and Microsoft can pick up the pace, because this generation only has a couple years left and I’m doubtful they can make a worthwhile lineup
A good reason for this is that game devolpment is taking so long these days. Square enix who delivered a lot of the masterpieces of the PlayStation are now taking a long time to make games like ff7 remake trilogy it took 4 years to make ffvii rebirth and for the final part it’ll take more time since it’ll include the rest of the game which is pretty huge and has a lot of plot if you played the original on ps1. By the time it releases the hardware of the ps5 will be outdated
then take a break from gaming that simple or play older games on pc like I dont know what to tell u dude its the reality of things lol
Well a lot of the PS4's major hitters came after the 4 year mark. I recall a lot of people upgraded cause of GTA V online initially but really sunk their teeth into the PS4 exclusives during year 5. I think we need to wait to properly assess this gen
Final fantasy 7 remake and rebirth were enough to make me love my ps5 lol, but if you haven't touched them it makes sense
Those games look awesome!! I’m kinda hoping for a Switch 2 port at some point but if not I’ll have to pick em up when they go on sale eventually lol
I’m just waiting for a trilogy pack to come out once the final game is released. I’d rather experience the whole saga at once.
I doubt rebirth would be on the switch 2 tbh, remake I can see atleast@@jonathanwilson7949
@@fujinshuthey already are long ass games. Are you really gonna play like 500 hours? I would burn out quick
I actually went backwards and bought a ps2 and am now playing ps1 ff7.
Finally. My opinion has arrived.
Bro thinks he's watching Fantano
I think one big factor about this is that a bunch of big games suchs as GOW:R and Metaphor Re:Fantazio are also being released on the previous gen as well as current gen. It's also kinda sorta like a Wii U situation where tons of the games on Wii U were similar to what was on Wii or 3DS, which did not incentivize people to pick up the new machine. Also no price drops either. There also wasnt much of a graphical leap either, at least compared from something like PS1 to Ps2/PS2 to PS3 or N64 to GCN.
Dying Light 1 and Bloodborne carried the PS4 generation for me. Both of those were my favorite new IP's of the generation.
Scott uploads always leave me ROCK SOLID!!!!!
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@@muffin8460 ayo.
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You should see a doctor about that!
I'm fully convinced that the PS4 hype and success was only because Microsoft dropped the ball with the One so hard
is "The last of us, Horizon, God of War" the new "Halo, Gears of War, Forza"?
HINT: Always be a generation behind to get a massive library of completed games for 20$. It’s the best way to game.
The amount of knowledge Scott have and research he does makes me respect him more with each video.
Also his injection of personal experiences and witty humor, I could listen to him forever.
Thanks for all the amazing content, Scott! Stay awesome!
As a console gamer since the NES 8 bit, this is probably the worst console generation for the lack of quality games! Even though I love the PS5 for being powerful, the Xbox Series X/S consoles are nothing more than a walled garden gaming PC! I feel like we’re in video game recession like in 1983-1985, we’re not getting single player AAA games like we did decades ago! Also F Xbox!
38:14 I love the Brothership music here. People are sleeping on that soundtrack so hard.
Nintendo figured this out back in the Wii: Pushing videogame graphics and visual fidelity any further is completrly pointless. The PS4 already looked stellar, and even if it didn't, we're pretty much at the limit of how pretty games can look without artistic direction.
SOTC Remake, Trico, Ghost of Tsushima (even the PS4 ver.) look significantly better than any PS5 game just because they were made as art and not as playable tech demos.
And even worse! With the PS5 Pro they're trying to sell you better AI Upscaling and framegen, which are the very definition of crutches.
Meanwhile, Super Mario Wonder is significatly prettier than anything that came out this generation. Same goes for TotK -- Hell, even BotW.
Since sloppy samey superhero games aren't as interesting for most peiple as sloppy samey superhero movies (both because they cost more and are longer) and graphics leaps aren't neraly as exciting anymore, the only viable solution i see is seeing videogames as art again. It's no wonder that aside from Nintendo games and one or other quirky first party from Sony and Xbox, every single actually interesting and innovative videogame has been an indie one. Funnily enough, casual gamers also have been more interested in indie games like stardew valley, terraria, etc. Because they are cheaper, more fun and because that demographic cares even less about pointless graphical advancement.
I'm left wondering why doesn't Sony or Xbox just make bite sized AA games? Like 'modernized' PS2 games in a way? They can experiment more without needing a crazy budget, they can give the games unique visuals without chasing after crazy high fidelity graphics, and they can most importantly just focus on making fun, good games. Do players really want more of the same AAA 3rd person open world games? Surely if these guys marketed and published these smaller, but great experiences people will give them a chance. If it's really true that "gamers are stupid and will eat anything they put out" why not maker smaller, cheaper games? 300+ million for a single game is fucking ridiculous and surely is hindering potential profits.
I love how this drops the same day Sony announced we will get at least one big in house single player game pr year... Wooooow Sony... One?? Are you sure you are not spoiling us? Remember when games had trilogies on the same console
That would be back when development was cheap and quick. They’re doing what they can.
Clearly, they haven’t ACTUALLY learned anything from the PS3’s failures.
@@spencermaley4390 Every PlayStation has been successful because it’s been the cheap option to play the widest variety of games. Sony’s failure this generation was not being affordable enough. More first party games would have helped a little, but when the majority of people buy your consoles for CoD and 2K, affordability is the most critical.
Also the same day as strikes are happening across the industry with one of the major negative points being Microsoft's outsourcing.
One AAA per year is pretty realistic given how complex game development is now
As an Xbox fan, I have to agree. The first party department has been lacking on Xbox. Scott described it perfectly too, modern Halo feels like a corporate entity that just exists, “appeals” to what’s popular in video games today but doesn’t really have much passion in it.
I’m just sticking with Xbox cause it was my first major console, and I don’t want to lose all my progress, friends, and purchases. Plus Xbox still has some selling points for me, primarily backwards compatibility, quick resume, and I’m not the biggest fan of PlayStation exclusives to the point where I’ll buy a PS5 and take up space that could’ve been used for a Nintendo Switch or something. But I still enjoy Halo the Master Chief Collection, Halo Infinite is an occasional pleasure to play with my friends, and I actually enjoyed Starfield. People wanted something vastly different, I personally liked the way Bethesda did their RPGs in the past and didn’t want them to change too much. Plus, since games like Elder Scrolls 6 are coming to Xbox and PC only, yeah.
But, even then Xbox could be doing better. I liked Starfield, but I’d still take Skyrim or Fallout in a heartbeat. Halo Infinite I’ll install for a few months, get bored, and don’t play it again for a year. It seems like there’s not much hope for Halo’s future right now. To be honest, once I get the money, I’m getting a PC. I’ll keep an Xbox or Nintendo console for casual play or split screen with my friends and family, but I’d prefer a PC. It gets both consoles’ games anyway these days, no online subscription fee, mod capabilities, indie and fan games not available on console, emulation, and I can always upgrade it to keep up with future games. But for now, I’m sticking with Xbox as my primary console, and Nintendo secondary. But both PlayStation and Xbox aren’t like they used to be in the 6th and 7th generation. Nintendo has been completely consistent at least.
The problem is everyone with a platform (influencers) are so fucking cynical about every single video game and spout bullshit drama over literal nothing, it sucks all the hype out.
Facts
I don’t think that’s true at all tbh, drama and hype go hand in hand.
Like… I’ve not heard a damn thing about the PSVR2, good or bad.
Compare that to something like Mario andLuigi Brothership, which is coming with a lot of hype *and* a lot of controversy.
I agree with the Gamepass value. I used to swear on gamepass, but I found myself mostly playing longer games like RPGs... and if you play one game at a time which'll take you a few months to beat, it's not worth it.... so I started collecting physical Xbox games, since they go DIRT CHEAP. From Persona, to Nier, to Final Fantasy, to Dragon Quest, to Kingdom Hearts, to Gears, to Forza, to Halo...lots of good stuff on there.
The only reason to get a PS5 was FFVII Rebirth. The (probably) 2 years of exclusivity was supposed to sell a lot of systems. Because Rebirth was made in Unreal, it could have been released on PC same day, but Sony knew they had nothing else
And xvi to a lesser extent it’s better than XV but not in the level of vi,Vii,Viii,IX, and X
@@staringcorgi6475 agreed. It's such a slimy tactic
“I don’t see a lot of people caring about marathon from bungie!”
Marathon fan here! Yeah, we aren’t thrilled, haha
scott has breached containment
I’m a Nintendo gamer since 35 years. Last year I got an Xbox series X and I love it. You nailed it it when you said “for the person who doesn’t care”. I really don’t. Game pass is amazing, the controller is great, quick resume is great and the series S is great for less money.
Ps5 should’ve been the Ps4 pro.
Man, I want to thank you. You are so good at this. I know this looks just like another retrospective, but it is blueprint what information should be. Down to earth, unbiased, relaxed, knowledgeable. I enjoyed watching this and I will watch this again, because I am so tired of somebody on RUclips or news trying to sell me some product or lifestyle. This is just friendly talk from your side. Thank you.
BTW the median Opencritic score of an Xbox published game is 83.5. The median score of a PlayStation published game is 85. The quality of releases aren’t that far off in quality honestly it’s the genres they’re doing them in. Hifi rush, pentiment, and grounded are genuinely some of my favorite games of the decade but are those games going to have the same mass appeal of horizon? I personally think I’d much rather play any of those three of either horizon game but if I asked any casual gamer it’s going to be the opposite. Xbox doesn’t need to improve the quality of their games necessarily they need to improve their presence in the AAA story adventure space. I hope next year with Doom, Fable, and Avowed something actually hits and this generation can start to feel competitive. Literally all of my favorite PlayStation 5 games have been either cross play titles I didn’t need to upgrade for or stuff that was timed and has or will hit PC very soon. Just an overall disappointing generation.
Exactly
Please come into the present and realize that console generations won't be hugh improvements anymore
I remember going to a theater to watch the PSX and it was so much fun
I think you put too much emphasis on exclusives for the ps5 given most of the playerbase aren’t playing them.
11:09 Each Ratchet and Clank game had a lot more individual personality in the PS2 and a bit in the PS3 eras
Sony is chasing the live service dream which will lead them to crash and burn. While Xbox is still recovering from their stroke in 2013.
Returnal was the main reason I bought a PS5 and still feel it's the best reason to own one.
25:20 Same happened with Toy Story 3, the PS3 version is a hidden gem but instead they farted out the PSP version on PS Plus, needless to say the reviews aren't great on it, there's also a few other games that had PS2 versions that randomly got the PSP versions rereleased for some reason.
Probably bc the psp versions are easier to run than the ps3 and ps2 since ps3 games are a no go and ps2 games take effort
It would actually require effort and money to port or emulate ps3 games.
Yes 1 hour of pure gold!
SCOTT PLAYS GAMES!?!?!?!?!
I got my series x from launch and it was an upgrade from the xbox one s.a.d(one S all digital), and yet i haven't felt like there's this pinnacle moment of next generation, there's alot from the lost of creativity and shock factor. I should probably get a pc.
You got starfield with thousands of mods already, you just need to add two coolers to your box, top and bottom.
I think the series s is a phenomenal budget console and a great console to get if you can't afford a higher end console or a pc. But the series x? Just save up for a pc at that point, it's essentially a pc in a box but much more limited with what you can do with it.
using a pc with a tv sucks though
Astro Bot is amazing. I really hope we get more gems like this.
I'm still chilling in the 8th generation, I will upgrade when the time is right and my backlog is complete 😎 or someone comes out with something crazy, then I'll be swayed lol.
Upgrade to PS Extra and try Final Fantasy 7 remake, it's sequel is like 10x better than an already 9/10 game
@@chrism-br8hh that is on my radar, it looks genuinely cool
Or, buy the game used for less than the scam subscription and play it that way.
Just wait for gta 6…none of these garage games are worth playing
There hasn’t been THAT MUST HAVE game yet. Imagine if the switch didn’t have botw?
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I feel like Microsoft made a bad move halting their free backwards compatibility updates. It was awesome for me playing older games at 60 or even 120 fps with updated resolutions and HDR. It made most games feel like new and saved so much money compared to Sony's remaster approach
I have a 360 , ps3 and the switch. I love my 360 because of backwards compatibility. Found ultimate Spider-Man on original Xbox but you’re right them abandoning updates has stopped me from even buying some older games
Exactly! My kids got Game Pass with their Xbox Series S for Christmas and it was awesome because they had so many older games that I fell in love with games I played years ago. Someone could literally play the entire history of Xbox with free updates compared to Nintendo re-releasing (for the 200th time) Super Mario Bros on the Switches predecessor for $20
I think you're forgetting day one games launching on Game Pass. Your severe criticisms on Xbox seemed like overkill.
Scott is too much of a Nintendo fanboy to realise that
get a pc then