UPDATE: Since we published this review, Cube Controls have now integrated Simhub control with this wheel, meaning you can now control the LED lighting via Telemetry data.
Loving your honest reviews of products that clearly aren't loaded with bias, Will. You're well informed and have clearly done plenty of research, which shows in your delivery. Awesome stuff, mate.
Good review, but I thoroughly disagree with the spring loaded pins being on the wheel. Theses pins are notoriously prone to damage from people accidentally brushing over them (especially on a formula wheel, nothing protecting your fingers grabbing them bottom of the wheel), dust buildup and wear, it would be so much cheaper to replace the cable rather than sending in your wheel for a repair. Keep up the good vids 👍
Fair enough. I just said that’s the way I’d do it. I’d still have some kind of recess so they don’t get knocked. Didn’t say it was the right way to do it. You’re absolutely right that it’s easier to replace a cable than a wheel.
For many or even most people that buy these types of wheels they don't have many wheels so swopping or removing is not a regular thing and for the few that swop out often are clearly aware of what it costs, they would treat it with respect, I feel this is unnecessary nit picking honestly
@@Kevin-vg5uw Most likely you would have an 80/20 rig or similar if using this wheel with some magnetic bracket you can easily just attach the connector to that when not in use to protect the pins if it's being used for charging only. Otherwise it's likely gonna be attached at all times anyway.
@@benjimc1 yes that was my point, to complain about that design seems like going out of your way to complain about something. I like the design its clean and simple, the only way something will go wrong with it is if someone does something stupid with it.
Will, just a note you can use the UGT software now to turn off the screen on your GTX when you close the software. It will come back on when you start the software again.
Hmm having heard enough woes about older Cube steering wheels I hope the improvements here make it a genuine contender in the more premium market - though I know a guy who'd probably beat me over the head for daring to look at something other than the Ascher F64 and say I like the ergonomics here better 😅 Anyways, thanks for the review Will, appreciate the continued dedication to checking out the new hardware coming to market and looking forward to what comes next!
Well done Will! As countless others have already mentioned, your reviews are honest and insightful! I was thinking about getting this wheel rim along with the Simucube 2 Pro once I upgrade to a DD system. I was initially concerned about the responsiveness (lag) of the bluetooth wireless aspect, but you allayed any fears and now I feel more comfortable with making this purchase. Keep up the awesome work man! The time and effort you put into these reviews are well worth it! Cheers!
@@kaijuh I love how you ask him how long it took for it to stop working and all he answers with is saying "it's a great wheel but the LED stopped working" lmao 🤣
This is the wheel I am looking for for VR. My #1 priority is to not have a screen. I don't want to pay for a screen if I can't see it. With the amount of button and knobs I think the price is fantastic for what you're getting. Thank you for reviewing ❤
The all black version looks amazing! I managed to only grab blue (more expensive too!) but it was literally the only one left for shipping in Europe, I guess I will get used to the blue but I love all black.
Overall, I like the wheel. The only thing I really don't like is how loud the shifters are. I agree with you, if you adjust the shifters you have to really tighten them down or they will move while in use. The software needs much work, but this can be addressed with update and firmware.
@@kaijuh I still own it. The wheel works and they do push out updates to make it batter. I would not buy it again as I think there are wheels out there that does the same thing but cost way less. I personally do not like the feel of the shifters.
@@raroxburgh what would you buy in place? are the thumb encoders and rotary encoders bad? I heard they werent great and sometimes sent extra clicks to the game. I was considering converting a fanatec 2.5 wheel but it would still come to around $600 total but I would be getting a proven popular wheel. For how much people rave about 'not being tied to an ecosystem' the simucube selection and getting actual value for your money is pretty garbage imo
@@kaijuh Hi , Fanatec, GSI, Asher all offer similar options. When it was first released the encoders did have some issues with extra click but they released both software and firmware to help fix that issue. So far, they have been good at pushing out update to the wheel. I had the Fanatec 2.5 with the duel clutch add-on and I really like that wheel. I made the move from Fanatec ecosystem(DD1) to Simucube and I cannot say that its a major difference. Moving to Simucube is for sure more expensive than Fanatec but doing so opens up your options to higher end wheels.
Thank you for talking about the thumb encoders! They are a huge reason I want to upgrade for my Formula 2.5. Glad to know the ones on the Cube have a very positive detente, that's huge for me as a glove wearer.
I use a similar connector on my ebike. It’s always best before you energize the usb lead to make sure the magnetic end doesn’t have any debris. If you put that on the wheel this would mean you have to remove the wheel to make sure the connector is clear of debris instead of just looking at the end of the lead before plugging it in.
Those Fanatec wheels have a cheap feel to the switches and rotary encoders. Lots of play and cheep feel. One I recently received had two of the knobs split down the middle such that they fell apart in my hands as soon as I turned them. Also, seeing as you are pushing Pagnian, I want people who go there to really check the prices. They add between 15 - 20 % or more to Fanatec stuff and just pass your order straight to Fanatec exactly as if you did it yourself. But, having said that, they are really good to deal with. Friendly and knowledgeable.
Yes pagnian add an excess to their fanatec range, however they don't charge for shipping. Also from what I've seen they don't take pre orders for fanatec, only when in stock at pagnian. Always had same/next day despatch.
@@matta2738 Free shipping but you pay way more for the items, they are a huge ripoff, they were selling the CSW 2.5 for more then a CSL DD from fanatec.
. @@matta2738 Incorrect. They don't have Fanatec stock. They order for you from Fanatec and you will get it exactly as if you ordered it from Fanatec yourself. Also, shipping is a very small part of the actual markup figures. Example. CSL DD 8nm Boost bundle. Fanatec $829, Pagnian. $999. $170 more. Shipping is about 22 dollars. Clubsport Formula v2.5 wheel. Fanatec $559, Pagnian $649. $90 more. Again shipping is sfa. V3 Pedals. Fanatec $550. Pagnian, $630. Difference, $80. Shipping, 20 odd. and last but not least of what I bought, Brake performance kit, Fanatec $50. Pagnian, $79. $29 dollars more. nearly 60% markup. Yes shipping is a cost there, but claiming 'free' shipping is a lie. And, I know for a fact that they do not stock Fanatec stuff as I had a long conversation about it with a guy there who I won't name here. He actually apologized to me for not making such markups clear. And told me that they don't stock Fanatec. It was nearly all pre order. And, I ordered stuff directly from Fanatec after I found out and it was all shipped from the same place in Melbourne, at the same time by the same carrier. I ordered from them way back before Christmas and all the delays and the con regarding the boost kit bundle brought it to my attention. All the delays Fanatec had were exactly the same delays Pagnian had, because all they do is forward your order to Fanatec and charge hundreds more for the non privilege. So, you are very very wrong. However, as I said, they do communicate well and the guy I am talking to, including today is a good guy. He actually thought I should get a discount, but he isn't the boss. I paid over 300 dollars for items that came exactly the same as if I had ordered from Fanatec.
I can only speak from my experiences which have been positive, but to each their own. Also your pricing on the fanatec items you listed direct from fanatec are incorrect. They are all in fact more than what you have quoted.
Great video as usual. Also great to see so much issues fixed. Also I see people complains about the grip diameter to be too small on the previous version. Is it still the same diameter ? You said 14.5 right ?
Thank you for the review. 👍🏻👏🏻 I was wondering how to connect via Bluetooth. I somehow missed that I needed to hold in the button to activate it 🤦🏻♂️I though they sent me a faulty unit.
I just got a Cube Controls FPro wheel. During sudden changes of direction (with ffb quite high) , I can notice a slight creak sound in the rear part of the steering wheel. I have a Simucube 2 pro base with Simucube quick release, all the screws are very tight. Did you notice any creaking sound Will?
Hey Will, I want to recommand you to try a Simline 720s, they got amazing build quality and they are the only one who make and sell a mclaren 720s wheel by mass production. I got this wheel few days ago and I like it a lot! But seems like they are not very popular....Please take consideration on review one of that!
@@amigoz3201 Well, it might be cheaper for a litter bit but is 3d printed housing,that's already deal breaker for me, and quite frankly, the Polsimer's wheel look horrible🙃But I think it all comes down to personal preference, at least is cheaper
5:31 Likely on a lower end motherboard. However on some of the better ones they have OC protection built in. This wouldnt do anything but trigger a warning error message to pop up overtop of everything on screen displayed by the pc telling you Over Current protection was triggered ect ect. This comes into play when installing mother boards into cases often, people will accidentally catch one of the IO covers metal flaps and cause it to be down into the usb port, again triggering protections or possibly causing a boot loop on first post in the event its the "bios" labeled usb slot.
Then should have added a Rev light bar as future addon. And btw, what usb dongle can you use with this to be able to use the wireless function for non simucube bases?
Having to recharge the wheel seem s like a huge drawback, currently running DD1 wheel and debating weather or not to upgrade to simucube pro, or perhaps the simmagic alpha ultimate with that new FX pro wheel. if anyone has any feedback defff welcome !!
2 months later.... Good day sir Have you seen that with the F-Pro it is now possible to setup your clutch and L&R paddle threshold (what would your recommended setting be?), all through their new software: CubeControl Clubset? Also may I ask you to educate me on the following: Inputs-encoder pulse width. Thank you mate.
Hi Will can you issue a video as to how to connect the Fanatec Podium Hub to the cube control F-Pro steering wheel and to a Fanatec DD1 base and advise if there are any issues
Thanks for the review. How is the loudness of de shifters from the F-Pro vs a Ascher? I use the Ascher F28-SC-V2 and really love it, although the shifters are a bit loud with my daughter sleeping in the room next to me :)
Finally got my Fpro wheel in and it was completely Dean On Arrival. :( I paid 4 months ago and I can only send it in for repair as they can’t replace with a new one,….
Great review! My main complaint with my Cube Controls Formula Pro USB is that the wheel encoders sometimes double click but the game only registers a single click. I have no confidence in any of the encoders and I have to use buttons for brake bias. Will are you having issues with encoder accuracy? Thank you and keep up the awesome content!
I haven’t noticed that issue on any of my cube wheels, however I recall on my Ascher Racing F64 and the cube GTX there’s an adjustment in the software to change the delay between registered inputs Pc the encoders. This wheeland others that use the Simucube wireless module don’t have this adjustment so maybe you’re making two clicks too quickly?
Hi sir, you are making amazing videos and all are very detailed. I learn lots of things from you. I got my cube controls fpro wheel and I downloaded software v5 and Firmware Version 20-08-2022. My problem is; I am changing the colors of buttons by the rgb section and saving it. But when I turn the wheel off and on my rgp button configuration is disappears and it turns to factory colors. what am I doing wrong? thank you very much for your all videos
Something I was wondering about is the shifter paddles. There’s those large holes in them and I would think that would be annoying. If your putting your finger on the entire paddle or using multiple fingers will they go through the holes? Or is it not an issue
Someone help me decide between this F-PRO and the CSX3... I alway like to have a screen on my wheel but i also have separate dash screen (5inch) on my wheel base already....
@@lukebraddford3287 I sold it. Had quite a few issues, plastic cover popper off and stayed loose on buttons. Parts of shifters and charge connector loose, had to disassemble to tighten. The stickers are too big for the led plates so they don’t fit flat and edges pop up which doesn’t look neat. Clutch paddles can’t adjust to be close to the grip like you can with the shifters. And the absolute major issue - the rotaries don’t work properly yet, they don’t register every spin and sometimes they were even going backwards in game. I couldn’t use it.
That’s a real shame to hear but thanks for your honesty! Good to have real world customer feedback on these videos too. Can’t say I’ve had an issue with the rotaries operating strangely or parts becoming loose.
Excellent review Will. Can I ask if you could do a review on the thrustmaster t248 vs the t300? Seems like a lot of confusion as to which is the better buy these days.
Definitely t300. Don’t be sold on the fact the t248 is newer, the t300 is in a class of its own at that price point. The t300 is solely belt driven as opposed to the combination of geared and belt system of the t248, in a world of direct drive a belt driven wheel should probably be the bare minimum you should go for. Also, the t248 isn’t part of a modular system, you can’t swap rims like you can with the t300, I’ve owned a t300 with the TM Open Wheel add on and it was fantastic.
Reason why I ask is iv owned a TX , and now I own a tmx. The tx gave me years of issues and the tmx has been more reliable but still gives me trouble. But t248 is supposedly much better than the t150/ tmx it replaces and only slightly down on power to the t300/TX So I'd be interested in a video as to which wheel is more value for money today
@@robertcarr4172 If you’re gonna buy a t248 you may as well get the g923, you won’t sacrifice any quality and gain a lot more in reliability. I’ve used the t248, the rim is rather tacky, your best bet is getting the t300 from a retailer with good warranty
@@robertcarr4172 And power is relative to how well it can deliver it, a gear driven motor is always going to feel clunky and not simulate the track very well
Any chance for a short “3-months in” thoughts Will? The software seems to be just as same even though it had two updates since Feb ‘22, but about how it held up?
Thanks I had receive my wheel several days ago and had a chance to set it up. I’m a bit disappointed with two things. 1. Bite point setting is global. Whatever you set it to stays on all time, limiting one clutch paddle to whatever you set the bite point percentage to. This is the biggest let down unfortunately. 2. You cannot set the encoders to MPS function. Would have been really nice. And for bonus round. O.M.G. What dismal software! SMH.
thank you very much Will for the always excellent review. I am looking to buy this wheel to use with my Fanatec DD, quick question, using Fanatec Podium Hub do you loose FF because this is not a Fanatec Wheel? thanks in Advance
Just got this wheel and having a hard time due to the grips. They are non-plastic, yet feel plasticky. My hands don’t grip well and gloves slip. The are pointy on the back and the front creating pressure points. A true bummer.
@@kaijuh I decided to keep it. I found I was able to largely eliminate the problem by using a quality pair of karting gloves (picked Alpine Stars). The grip of the gloves allowed me to reduce how much I have to “squeeze” the wheel. It is a good wheel beyond that and I appreciate the lighted buttons and layout, as well as Bluetooth connection. It is noticably more solid than my Fanatec 2.5x and other similarly spec’d wheels seem to cost more (Gomez, Grid, sim Engineering). It is not the easiest thing to attach to the Fanatec podium hub.
@@designamk1160 mate why don't you mind your own business? I'm not spamming but I asking owners feedback. Anyways, I bought my F-Pro wheel. You are like the awkward dude that gets involved in other people's business. No one even cares what you think. Cheers
Anyone from AU who bought this and can advise how much it is after all the GST / Fees etc... please? Also, is it just me or if you want to use this Wheel primarily for Formula Cars, the Stickers do not have much options to cater for all different possible functions etc...?
Simucube have their own proprietary wireless protocol which limits the number of inputs to 28. This wheel goes a different route i.e. from wheel to PC via standard bluetooth. This also means this wheel is not wedded to Simucube, rather it can be used used with a wider range of wheel bases.
@@CarterLundy10 Yes (if I understood you correctly). Note this wheel has 50 inputs which, although that's plenty, won't be every input in a game because there are sooooo many possibilities. For me the big disadvantage of the Simucube wireless protocol isn't the limitation of 28 inputs but rather that you can't have a dual clutch. This is a deal breaker with regards to a formula wheel so it's great that Cube Controls have gone the normal bluetooth route.
Nice wheel, shame it's nearly £1000. I'll keep an eye for it on eBay lol. Buy all my rims from there. Apart from fanatec. That's always new. eBay not a good place to buy fanatec. Last I checked which was a year ago. Pedals new were only £50 more. Got a couple of expensive rims, I've got for little as £400 a pop cos no one that interested. My last was worth 900, paid 390. Practically brand new. 99.9% of people look after SIM racing gear. Just make sure rims are leather and you're good. Higher the value, the more they are looked after. SIM racing can be as cheap or expensive as you like, I like high rolling on a smaller budget. In UK, last few months, been loads of gear on sale.
Purchased the F-Pro after watching this and some other reviews and am thinking I made a mistake. I am not a fan of the wheel but it is solid and no problems with Bluetooth. They have taking a few of your suggestions on re software but its so lacking.....it would be great if you could save different settings for different cars and big problems with clutch and iRacing ... had to delete all the cfg files to get it working but still no bite point. The thumb encoders are horrible , hard to turn and basically too small and I would nether assign anything critical to these. And getting them into Oz ..well allow another $240 plus cost for Custom fees and GST. To be honest, I think the Fanny Formula wheels are better ... not as solid but on a $ for $ basis they are so far ahead. Just a pity about the DD1 and DD2 Bases. And why the so short USB cable? And I do think the shifters the nosiest I have had
@@kaijuh actually thinking seriously about selling it and getting the new Asher wheels that have the updated Simucube circuits board or whatever its called.....apparently its just coming out and will have dual clutch and more buttons
@@willsutton9954 after looking at the review again, and reading more about the wheels, I think ill probably get the F-Pro. -Like the fit and look -size of good for F1 and GT3 -Bluetooth connection -not having to take your hands of the wheel something that you would have to do with any ascher encoder I dont think you can wrong with the ascher but I think I will probaby be happier with the performance of the F-Pro. The Ascher design sort of feels "safe and a bit mundane" but I do appreciate the Cube Controls adapting things you see on actual cars and doing modern solutions like open bluetooth and magnetic cables with rgb lights. BTW im pretty sure the new v3 64 wheel is wired only. Looks great but for the reasons above, I think the F-Pro will be better for me Cheers
@@boostedmedia Yeah, I don't understand paying a "serious" piece of equipment and driving without gloves, they are designed to be driven with glove, like you said it use material used in IRL race cars. Anyway, I dont critics your review, but those people who want to use things in a way it's not designed for and then complain about it
UPDATE: Since we published this review, Cube Controls have now integrated Simhub control with this wheel, meaning you can now control the LED lighting via Telemetry data.
Loving your honest reviews of products that clearly aren't loaded with bias, Will. You're well informed and have clearly done plenty of research, which shows in your delivery. Awesome stuff, mate.
Thanks Justin.
Good review, but I thoroughly disagree with the spring loaded pins being on the wheel. Theses pins are notoriously prone to damage from people accidentally brushing over them (especially on a formula wheel, nothing protecting your fingers grabbing them bottom of the wheel), dust buildup and wear, it would be so much cheaper to replace the cable rather than sending in your wheel for a repair. Keep up the good vids 👍
Fair enough. I just said that’s the way I’d do it. I’d still have some kind of recess so they don’t get knocked. Didn’t say it was the right way to do it. You’re absolutely right that it’s easier to replace a cable than a wheel.
For many or even most people that buy these types of wheels they don't have many wheels so swopping or removing is not a regular thing and for the few that swop out often are clearly aware of what it costs, they would treat it with respect, I feel this is unnecessary nit picking honestly
@@Kevin-vg5uw Most likely you would have an 80/20 rig or similar if using this wheel with some magnetic bracket you can easily just attach the connector to that when not in use to protect the pins if it's being used for charging only. Otherwise it's likely gonna be attached at all times anyway.
@@benjimc1 yes that was my point, to complain about that design seems like going out of your way to complain about something. I like the design its clean and simple, the only way something will go wrong with it is if someone does something stupid with it.
🙏 Thank you so much Will, keep up the good work and RACE HARD!
Will, just a note you can use the UGT software now to turn off the screen on your GTX when you close the software. It will come back on when you start the software again.
Hmm having heard enough woes about older Cube steering wheels I hope the improvements here make it a genuine contender in the more premium market - though I know a guy who'd probably beat me over the head for daring to look at something other than the Ascher F64 and say I like the ergonomics here better 😅
Anyways, thanks for the review Will, appreciate the continued dedication to checking out the new hardware coming to market and looking forward to what comes next!
Well done Will! As countless others have already mentioned, your reviews are honest and insightful! I was thinking about getting this wheel rim along with the Simucube 2 Pro once I upgrade to a DD system. I was initially concerned about the responsiveness (lag) of the bluetooth wireless aspect, but you allayed any fears and now I feel more comfortable with making this purchase. Keep up the awesome work man! The time and effort you put into these reviews are well worth it! Cheers!
Absolutely love my F-Pro, so glad I managed to get it on pre release 😁
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
@@kaijuh Is a great wheel, however one of the led lights has stopped working.
@@SmokeyStoner how long did it take to break? but otherwise, do you feel the LED is worth it? Did Cube Controls try to make it right?
@@kaijuh It's a great wheel just one of the led stopped working. Cube have great custommer service. If you want one buy one.
@@kaijuh I love how you ask him how long it took for it to stop working and all he answers with is saying "it's a great wheel but the LED stopped working" lmao 🤣
How could one ever get bored with this
This is the wheel I am looking for for VR. My #1 priority is to not have a screen. I don't want to pay for a screen if I can't see it. With the amount of button and knobs I think the price is fantastic for what you're getting. Thank you for reviewing ❤
The all black version looks amazing! I managed to only grab blue (more expensive too!) but it was literally the only one left for shipping in Europe, I guess I will get used to the blue but I love all black.
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
Wonder what the battery life is like with rgb on and off, would be nice to see a battery status in the software be added
Overall, I like the wheel. The only thing I really don't like is how loud the shifters are. I agree with you, if you adjust the shifters you have to really tighten them down or they will move while in use. The software needs much work, but this can be addressed with update and firmware.
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
@@kaijuh I still own it. The wheel works and they do push out updates to make it batter. I would not buy it again as I think there are wheels out there that does the same thing but cost way less. I personally do not like the feel of the shifters.
@@raroxburgh what would you buy in place? are the thumb encoders and rotary encoders bad? I heard they werent great and sometimes sent extra clicks to the game.
I was considering converting a fanatec 2.5 wheel but it would still come to around $600 total but I would be getting a proven popular wheel. For how much people rave about 'not being tied to an ecosystem' the simucube selection and getting actual value for your money is pretty garbage imo
@@kaijuh Hi , Fanatec, GSI, Asher all offer similar options. When it was first released the encoders did have some issues with extra click but they released both software and firmware to help fix that issue. So far, they have been good at pushing out update to the wheel. I had the Fanatec 2.5 with the duel clutch add-on and I really like that wheel. I made the move from Fanatec ecosystem(DD1) to Simucube and I cannot say that its a major difference. Moving to Simucube is for sure more expensive than Fanatec but doing so opens up your options to higher end wheels.
Thank you for talking about the thumb encoders! They are a huge reason I want to upgrade for my Formula 2.5. Glad to know the ones on the Cube have a very positive detente, that's huge for me as a glove wearer.
I use a similar connector on my ebike. It’s always best before you energize the usb lead to make sure the magnetic end doesn’t have any debris. If you put that on the wheel this would mean you have to remove the wheel to make sure the connector is clear of debris instead of just looking at the end of the lead before plugging it in.
Those Fanatec wheels have a cheap feel to the switches and rotary encoders. Lots of play and cheep feel. One I recently received had two of the knobs split down the middle such that they fell apart in my hands as soon as I turned them.
Also, seeing as you are pushing Pagnian, I want people who go there to really check the prices. They add between 15 - 20 % or more to Fanatec stuff and just pass your order straight to Fanatec exactly as if you did it yourself. But, having said that, they are really good to deal with. Friendly and knowledgeable.
Yes pagnian add an excess to their fanatec range, however they don't charge for shipping. Also from what I've seen they don't take pre orders for fanatec, only when in stock at pagnian. Always had same/next day despatch.
@@matta2738 Free shipping but you pay way more for the items, they are a huge ripoff, they were selling the CSW 2.5 for more then a CSL DD from fanatec.
. @@matta2738 Incorrect. They don't have Fanatec stock. They order for you from Fanatec and you will get it exactly as if you ordered it from Fanatec yourself.
Also, shipping is a very small part of the actual markup figures.
Example. CSL DD 8nm Boost bundle.
Fanatec $829, Pagnian. $999. $170 more. Shipping is about 22 dollars.
Clubsport Formula v2.5 wheel.
Fanatec $559, Pagnian $649. $90 more. Again shipping is sfa.
V3 Pedals.
Fanatec $550. Pagnian, $630. Difference, $80. Shipping, 20 odd.
and last but not least of what I bought,
Brake performance kit,
Fanatec $50. Pagnian, $79. $29 dollars more. nearly 60% markup. Yes shipping is a cost there, but claiming 'free' shipping is a lie.
And, I know for a fact that they do not stock Fanatec stuff as I had a long conversation about it with a guy there who I won't name here. He actually apologized to me for not making such markups clear. And told me that they don't stock Fanatec. It was nearly all pre order.
And, I ordered stuff directly from Fanatec after I found out and it was all shipped from the same place in Melbourne, at the same time by the same carrier.
I ordered from them way back before Christmas and all the delays and the con regarding the boost kit bundle brought it to my attention. All the delays Fanatec had were exactly the same delays Pagnian had, because all they do is forward your order to Fanatec and charge hundreds more for the non privilege.
So, you are very very wrong. However, as I said, they do communicate well and the guy I am talking to, including today is a good guy. He actually thought I should get a discount, but he isn't the boss.
I paid over 300 dollars for items that came exactly the same as if I had ordered from Fanatec.
@@DriftNick
Yes. I found out the hard way.
"Free' shipping. Funny sort of free.
I can only speak from my experiences which have been positive, but to each their own. Also your pricing on the fanatec items you listed direct from fanatec are incorrect. They are all in fact more than what you have quoted.
Congratulations and well done with your new studio. I hope the new space helps to give you more creative challenges 🍀
Great video as usual. Also great to see so much issues fixed.
Also I see people complains about the grip diameter to be too small on the previous version. Is it still the same diameter ? You said 14.5 right ?
Thank you for the review. 👍🏻👏🏻
I was wondering how to connect via Bluetooth. I somehow missed that I needed to hold in the button to activate it 🤦🏻♂️I though they sent me a faulty unit.
I just got a Cube Controls FPro wheel. During sudden changes of direction (with ffb quite high) , I can notice a slight creak sound in the rear part of the steering wheel. I have a Simucube 2 pro base with Simucube quick release, all the screws are very tight. Did you notice any creaking sound Will?
Hey Will, I want to recommand you to try a Simline 720s, they got amazing build quality and they are the only one who make and sell a mclaren 720s wheel by mass production. I got this wheel few days ago and I like it a lot! But seems like they are not very popular....Please take consideration on review one of that!
If it's the one I'm thinking of it looks like a toy.
@@amigoz3201 Well, it might be cheaper for a litter bit but is 3d printed housing,that's already deal breaker for me, and quite frankly, the Polsimer's wheel look horrible🙃But I think it all comes down to personal preference, at least is cheaper
have one and absolutely agree with your review, this wheel is just marvelous........
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
@@kaijuh yes, Still have it, Just amazing. I only put strap on wrist to be more confortable, tennis strap
@@kaijuh i would still buy it if i have money, new wheel from simmagic seem similar, but price is really less....look at it before
5:31 Likely on a lower end motherboard. However on some of the better ones they have OC protection built in. This wouldnt do anything but trigger a warning error message to pop up overtop of everything on screen displayed by the pc telling you Over Current protection was triggered ect ect. This comes into play when installing mother boards into cases often, people will accidentally catch one of the IO covers metal flaps and cause it to be down into the usb port, again triggering protections or possibly causing a boot loop on first post in the event its the "bios" labeled usb slot.
Thank you Will for such a well-put-together immersive analysis. Enjoyed every bit of it.
Then should have added a Rev light bar as future addon. And btw, what usb dongle can you use with this to be able to use the wireless function for non simucube bases?
Would be awesome if there would be a Q-Conn Connector Upgrade Set for the "old wheels" like my CSX2 ...
Like the same.
@@NTSH443 but it will be very expensive i think ... like the colored aluminium knobs kit for 140€
@@Renirode everything cube is expensive
Having to recharge the wheel seem s like a huge drawback, currently running DD1 wheel and debating weather or not to upgrade to simucube pro, or perhaps the simmagic alpha ultimate with that new FX pro wheel. if anyone has any feedback defff welcome !!
2 months later....
Good day sir
Have you seen that with the F-Pro it is now possible to setup your clutch and L&R paddle threshold (what would your recommended setting be?), all through their new software: CubeControl Clubset?
Also may I ask you to educate me on the following: Inputs-encoder pulse width.
Thank you mate.
Great video, just got mine! Any chance you could share your button and light mappings preferences?
How this compare to Ascher F64 V2? I have read that the quality control from CC are not at the highest level compared to Ascher. Is it still true ?
and a DnB head aka junglist, im proud that your music choice is as such
Looks like now it’s possible to have analog data with simucube, the new f64 v3 is wireless
What would you reccomend f64 or f pro?
i own the cube controls formula wheel and now with this review time to save for this one
Hi Will can you issue a video as to how to connect the Fanatec Podium Hub to the cube control F-Pro steering wheel and to a Fanatec DD1 base and advise if there are any issues
I’m having an issue connecting the wheel to ACC or F1 22 through steam. Can you possibly give me any idea on how to make it work please?…
Thanks for the review. How is the loudness of de shifters from the F-Pro vs a Ascher? I use the Ascher F28-SC-V2 and really love it, although the shifters are a bit loud with my daughter sleeping in the room next to me :)
Finally got my Fpro wheel in and it was completely Dean On Arrival. :( I paid 4 months ago and I can only send it in for repair as they can’t replace with a new one,….
do you still own it? or did you get your money back? I am guessing you woukdnt buy it again...
Ping. Would like to know this as well
Great review! My main complaint with my Cube Controls Formula Pro USB is that the wheel encoders sometimes double click but the game only registers a single click. I have no confidence in any of the encoders and I have to use buttons for brake bias. Will are you having issues with encoder accuracy? Thank you and keep up the awesome content!
I haven’t noticed that issue on any of my cube wheels, however I recall on my Ascher Racing F64 and the cube GTX there’s an adjustment in the software to change the delay between registered inputs Pc the encoders. This wheeland others that use the Simucube wireless module don’t have this adjustment so maybe you’re making two clicks too quickly?
@@boostedmedia Thank you for the response. I will reach out to Cube Controls about my issue. Cheers!
how can you add the fpro with fanatec dd2 i have the podium hub an quick release any other suggestions
Hi sir, you are making amazing videos and all are very detailed. I learn lots of things from you. I got my cube controls fpro wheel and I downloaded software v5 and Firmware Version 20-08-2022. My problem is; I am changing the colors of buttons by the rgb section and saving it. But when I turn the wheel off and on my rgp button configuration is disappears and it turns to factory colors. what am I doing wrong? thank you very much for your all videos
Something I was wondering about is the shifter paddles. There’s those large holes in them and I would think that would be annoying. If your putting your finger on the entire paddle or using multiple fingers will they go through the holes? Or is it not an issue
It’s never been an issue for me on any of Cubes wheels. May be for others though.
hello what is your quick release please ?
Thanks for this review. Do you have any plans to review any of the Gomez wheels?
Yep. Coming soon.
@@boostedmedia any chance of a Gomez wheel review in 2023?
Someone help me decide between this F-PRO and the CSX3... I alway like to have a screen on my wheel but i also have separate dash screen (5inch) on my wheel base already....
the four encoders on the front. they are push buttons as well?
Nope
Mine finally cleared customs and it's here tomorrow!
How much did it cost with all the custom fees etc... if I may ask please?
@@jachan208 £927 GBP after customs (blue version)
How do you like the wheel?
@@lukebraddford3287 I sold it. Had quite a few issues, plastic cover popper off and stayed loose on buttons. Parts of shifters and charge connector loose, had to disassemble to tighten. The stickers are too big for the led plates so they don’t fit flat and edges pop up which doesn’t look neat. Clutch paddles can’t adjust to be close to the grip like you can with the shifters. And the absolute major issue - the rotaries don’t work properly yet, they don’t register every spin and sometimes they were even going backwards in game. I couldn’t use it.
That’s a real shame to hear but thanks for your honesty! Good to have real world customer feedback on these videos too.
Can’t say I’ve had an issue with the rotaries operating strangely or parts becoming loose.
Can you test the input latency of using the Bluetooth connection versus wired/physical connection?
There was no noticeable difference.
GSI FPE or Cube Controls CSX2 ?
Thanks for the review. Mine is on the way as well. I have a feeling Boosted Media isn't happy with the software 😆
Plenty of improvements to me made on the software front.
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
@@kaijuh yes I would buy it again. The software side could use an upgrade. I would love to be able to save different profiles
Excellent review Will. Can I ask if you could do a review on the thrustmaster t248 vs the t300? Seems like a lot of confusion as to which is the better buy these days.
Agreed good idea
Definitely t300.
Don’t be sold on the fact the t248 is newer, the t300 is in a class of its own at that price point.
The t300 is solely belt driven as opposed to the combination of geared and belt system of the t248, in a world of direct drive a belt driven wheel should probably be the bare minimum you should go for.
Also, the t248 isn’t part of a modular system, you can’t swap rims like you can with the t300, I’ve owned a t300 with the TM Open Wheel add on and it was fantastic.
Reason why I ask is iv owned a TX , and now I own a tmx. The tx gave me years of issues and the tmx has been more reliable but still gives me trouble. But t248 is supposedly much better than the t150/ tmx it replaces and only slightly down on power to the t300/TX
So I'd be interested in a video as to which wheel is more value for money today
@@robertcarr4172 If you’re gonna buy a t248 you may as well get the g923, you won’t sacrifice any quality and gain a lot more in reliability.
I’ve used the t248, the rim is rather tacky, your best bet is getting the t300 from a retailer with good warranty
@@robertcarr4172 And power is relative to how well it can deliver it, a gear driven motor is always going to feel clunky and not simulate the track very well
where do i extract the bin file to?
Any chance for a short “3-months in” thoughts Will? The software seems to be just as same even though it had two updates since Feb ‘22, but about how it held up?
Still enjoying it. No issues at all for us.
Thanks
I had receive my wheel several days ago and had a chance to set it up. I’m a bit disappointed with two things.
1. Bite point setting is global. Whatever you set it to stays on all time, limiting one clutch paddle to whatever you set the bite point percentage to. This is the biggest let down unfortunately.
2. You cannot set the encoders to MPS function. Would have been really nice.
And for bonus round. O.M.G. What dismal software! SMH.
@@ihsangin5816 do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
thank you very much Will for the always excellent review. I am looking to buy this wheel to use with my Fanatec DD, quick question, using Fanatec Podium Hub do you loose FF because this is not a Fanatec Wheel? thanks in Advance
Not if you use the podium hub. Will work fine. The hub enables FFB.
@@boostedmedia thanks Will
Just got this wheel and having a hard time due to the grips. They are non-plastic, yet feel plasticky. My hands don’t grip well and gloves slip. The are pointy on the back and the front creating pressure points. A true bummer.
do you still own it? any other issues? would you buy it again? I saw someone added Tennis raquet grips
@@kaijuh I decided to keep it. I found I was able to largely eliminate the problem by using a quality pair of karting gloves (picked Alpine Stars). The grip of the gloves allowed me to reduce how much I have to “squeeze” the wheel. It is a good wheel beyond that and I appreciate the lighted buttons and layout, as well as Bluetooth connection. It is noticably more solid than my Fanatec 2.5x and other similarly spec’d wheels seem to cost more (Gomez, Grid, sim Engineering). It is not the easiest thing to attach to the Fanatec podium hub.
@@netlawman2001 are you encoders working well? I heard from a number of people they woukd sometimes dont register clicks or register too many of them
Hey Will,
Do you plan on reviewing the new Ascher F64-USB V3? It is supposedly still coming out Q1 2022.
No plans currently. We reviewed the V2 shortly before the V3 was announced and the only real difference is the new rotary encoders
@@boostedmedia that makes sense. I’m VR only so I don’t really need light up buttons. Ascher seems like the best bet for VR only.
I ordered mines itll be shipping mid April!
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
@@designamk1160 mate why don't you mind your own business? I'm not spamming but I asking owners feedback. Anyways, I bought my F-Pro wheel. You are like the awkward dude that gets involved in other people's business. No one even cares what you think. Cheers
Can this work on PS5 if it's connected to a fanatec DD Pro Wheel base?
No
rim alone 860 bucks more than my whole thrustmaster setup o_O
Would it work on a Fanatec DD Base?
Yea but you’ll need a Fanatec podium or universal hub or an aftermarket emulator or you’ll have no force feedback.
Anyone from AU who bought this and can advise how much it is after all the GST / Fees etc... please?
Also, is it just me or if you want to use this Wheel primarily for Formula Cars, the Stickers do not have much options to cater for all different possible functions etc...?
I don’t understand what you mean about only 28 digital inputs?
Simucube have their own proprietary wireless protocol which limits the number of inputs to 28.
This wheel goes a different route i.e. from wheel to PC via standard bluetooth.
This also means this wheel is not wedded to Simucube, rather it can be used used with a wider range of wheel bases.
@@sloth_energy So basically you can map every input in a game and have all the buttons in use rather than having to pick only 28 inputs while you play
@@CarterLundy10 Yes (if I understood you correctly).
Note this wheel has 50 inputs which, although that's plenty, won't be every input in a game because there are sooooo many possibilities.
For me the big disadvantage of the Simucube wireless protocol isn't the limitation of 28 inputs but rather that you can't have a dual clutch.
This is a deal breaker with regards to a formula wheel so it's great that Cube Controls have gone the normal bluetooth route.
The new version Simucube wireless 2 chipset supports clutches and many more digital inputs. No wheel manufacturer has used it yet.
@@sloth_energy what I meant is that you can use all of the buttons rather than picking only 28
Is it compatible with Fanatec csl dd? TL:DW question.
Yes it is. I have one with a DD
@@orinerlich2414 thank you so much for the response.
im assuming i just need a podium hub and wallah .... magic?
whats sup Boosted
Can this be put on a fanatec csl base?
yes you can but you need a fanatec podium hub for that
@@TheMicAailes Or the SRM Emulator
Nice wheel but no light for gears … that’s a bummer for me
Loved everything, except hated seeing the F1 car with no display.
Nice wheel, shame it's nearly £1000. I'll keep an eye for it on eBay lol. Buy all my rims from there. Apart from fanatec. That's always new. eBay not a good place to buy fanatec. Last I checked which was a year ago. Pedals new were only £50 more. Got a couple of expensive rims, I've got for little as £400 a pop cos no one that interested. My last was worth 900, paid 390. Practically brand new. 99.9% of people look after SIM racing gear. Just make sure rims are leather and you're good. Higher the value, the more they are looked after. SIM racing can be as cheap or expensive as you like, I like high rolling on a smaller budget. In UK, last few months, been loads of gear on sale.
Purchased the F-Pro after watching this and some other reviews and am thinking I made a mistake. I am not a fan of the wheel but it is solid and no problems with Bluetooth. They have taking a few of your suggestions on re software but its so lacking.....it would be great if you could save different settings for different cars and big problems with clutch and iRacing ... had to delete all the cfg files to get it working but still no bite point. The thumb encoders are horrible , hard to turn and basically too small and I would nether assign anything critical to these. And getting them into Oz ..well allow another $240 plus cost for Custom fees and GST. To be honest, I think the Fanny Formula wheels are better ... not as solid but on a $ for $ basis they are so far ahead. Just a pity about the DD1 and DD2 Bases. And why the so short USB cable? And I do think the shifters the nosiest I have had
do you still own it? any issues? would you buy it again?
@@kaijuh actually thinking seriously about selling it and getting the new Asher wheels that have the updated Simucube circuits board or whatever its called.....apparently its just coming out and will have dual clutch and more buttons
@@willsutton9954 after looking at the review again, and reading more about the wheels, I think ill probably get the F-Pro.
-Like the fit and look
-size of good for F1 and GT3
-Bluetooth connection
-not having to take your hands of the wheel something that you would have to do with any ascher encoder
I dont think you can wrong with the ascher but I think I will probaby be happier with the performance of the F-Pro. The Ascher design sort of feels "safe and a bit mundane" but I do appreciate the Cube Controls adapting things you see on actual cars and doing modern solutions like open bluetooth and magnetic cables with rgb lights.
BTW im pretty sure the new v3 64 wheel is wired only. Looks great but for the reasons above, I think the F-Pro will be better for me
Cheers
@@kaijuh in the end it comes down to what will make you happy ......
este video e muy weno gracia
GOMEZ wheel are amazing
No CD with the software? Disappointing.
So over 1000 euros with shipping & taxes! Just for a wheel, base & pedals extra.
Guess there are some rich racers here.
You are supposed to use gloves.
Not everyone does so we test with and without.
@@boostedmedia Yeah, I don't understand paying a "serious" piece of equipment and driving without gloves, they are designed to be driven with glove, like you said it use material used in IRL race cars.
Anyway, I dont critics your review, but those people who want to use things in a way it's not designed for and then complain about it
the ugliest wheel ive ever seen
What do I need to use this with a CSL DD? Do I need podium hub?
Podium hub or emulator
Thanks what do you mean by emulator?
He actually just did video on the company “SRM” who makes a Fanatec wheel emulator but it’s around the same price as podium hub