Cube Controls CSX3 | Long Term Review | Sim Racing F1 Wheel
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- The ultimate statement piece on a rig is your steering wheel and for many years, Cube Controls was the cream of the crop. However, the past 2 years were really hard on their previous flagship products. To regain their place on the podium, they've switched their screen suppliers and to the delight of most, they are now using Simhub.
I've had the steering wheel for the past few weeks for a long term review and in this video I deep dive into the CSX3 and compare it to the CSX2 and GT-X along the way. Please grab a cup of your favourite beverage and enjoy 18 minutes of eye candy.
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Start: 0:00
1. Introduction: 0:44
2. First Impressions: 1:57
3. Price: 3:24
4. Hardware: 4:19
5. Software: 5:07
6. Screen: 6:42
7. Buttons & Rotaries: 9:09
8. Shifters & Clutch: 12:49
9. Grips: 13:49
10. Final Thought: 14:45
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Great seeing another honest review! Props mate, love this format and the way you tackle these with the pros and cons. Keep it up!!
Thanks for the kind words
That's a gret review Laurence! Nice and detailed and for sure it's right to point out any negatives considering the price point. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the kind words
I really really like this the led are super quality and the led screen is one of the best ive seen.
Great honest revieuw, good job!
You're very welcome
Loving the shots at Darren's workshop👌🏻
Hahaha yeah they're deadly aren't they? :D Had to get that racing pedigree into the shots
Great review… as a former csx2 owner and gtx owner I can say the paddles alone make the upgrade worth it. The csx2 paddles felt very numb while the paddles on the gtx were by far the best I’ve ever felt. Happy to see they are using that new paddle system through the ecosystem.
The wheel has lost a lot of its sleekness due to the screen not being flush though. I’ve always felt the csx2 was the best looking wheel on the market and with the introduction of the csx3 it remains so in my opinion. Also having a smaller screen feels like a strange choice to make, possibly due to lack of screen availability on the market.
If I didn’t just buy the grid rsr wheel I’d absolutely buy this. The csx2 was one of my favorite wheels of all time and I love the guys are cube controls. They are super helpful and very nice people all together who deserve success.
Excellent comment, thanks for the effort! Great insight for potential buyers
Great review. Decided to keep mine after debating the return of it but after seeing a potential 15% restock fee decided it was worth it to keep
It's a lovely unit. I think they had to choose between releasing something or waiting and releasing nothing. I think they made the right choice because it's a nice piece. Not perfect, but I'm hopeful
Cube wheels have always had me intrigued. They have a different design language than most in a really cool way that is still grounded enough to pass as a racing wheel. My only issue is needing quiet shifters. Something they've never had :( Great video and a great overview of this wheel that looks amazing.
Thanks! yeah these wheels have a real racing feel about them. I know what you mean!
thats my only con in my F-Pro wheel, damn shifters are LOUD as hell. My favorite shifters have been the Sf1000 chronopaddles, they use the single piece similar to real F1 wheels and the sound and click was just amazing. Still the best value for a sim wheel. Too bad it didnt work with my simucube 2 pro otherwise it would have been the go to wheel
I've been looking at wheel rims a lot recently and from my research. I have found there are issues with every single one so far. No matter how expensive or not. Paddles, buttons, rotary encoders, screens, size, backlit or un-lit etc etc. There aren't any that are perfect. Theres always something to give you that buyers remorse. This hobby is tough when choosing hardware. Unless you have a huge budget and dont care too much on cost. Spending over £1k+ on a rim. It shouldnt leave you with any doubt in your purchase.
From looking at brands like Cube Controls, GSI, Grid and Ascher etc. If I was within that sort of price range. The wheels from Precision Sim Engineering. Beat them all imo. Their rims look near enough perfect and worth the high price tags.
Check out the Grid MPX ;) doesn't have a screen but it's incredible
@@LaurenceDusoswa I was eyeing up that two as it has great reviews. However, like every rim. It's not perfect. The funky switches are easily knocked in the heat of the moment. According to Dan Suzuki.
GREAT REVIEW!!
Thanks Adham
Thanks Laurence! 🙏
You’re very welcome! Keep making good products!
Another great review LD.
Always loved the look of Cube wheels, but I don't know if I could justify the cost against something like a Simagic or Moza wheel. The wireless power on both those wheels is very appealing as well, having a usb cord hanging around is feeling very old now
I get what you mean. From my experience any car with 540 degrees or less never poses any issues but even 800 degrees is manageable with this wheel.
I have always liked the look of their wheels, and am very happy with my old Formula pro, so i imagine you cant go wrong with the CSX3 as their wheels are very high quality.
Yeah the quality is amazing for sure
I think we all want the Review of the Meca EVO 1 hydraulic!
Hurry Up!
We are all hyped to see the Review.
Haha yeah sorry :( I have lots of reviews queued up
Hi there!! Loved the review, buying one NOW! What brand and model of this quick release? Thanks and keep up with the good job!
NRG 2.0 Carbon :D Thanks for the kind words
Thanks for the review, very helpful. How were the button backlights displaying other colours btw? Seem to only really seen them in pink and blue - esp if you say they can't do white, can they do yellows and greens for example? Informative vid, but also really helpful for being able to picture how the wheel looks lying in a Tesco's car park, appreciate the effort you went to for some of those shots.
Hahahaha thanks 😂 b-roll is fun. Other colours are really good too. I had many different colours but only took footage of it in action after I had gathered my thoughts for this review.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Yeah I can only imagine the looks you got taking some of those clips - thats good about other button colours
Thank you for the review brother. Im torn apart this one and the Hyper p1 from GSI. What would you recommend?
I haven't reviewed the hyper p1. check out the SOELPEC Spectra XR though... it's absolute heaven...
Hey! Good Video! Probably gonna buy this wheel.
One Question: What Monitors are you using? Can you link them? :)
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Ok I am fully prepared to Kick Fanatec to the curb!!! You are 1 of my most trusted reviewers. Do I go Simmagic alpha U, with Fx pro wheel. or Simucube pro 2, with fx pro or this wheel??? As the way I'm looking at it selling my DD1 used with Porche wheel podium shifters, and formula v3 it wont be all that big of a net loss? any feedback would be greatly appreciated. also The Cube control wheels do need charging up and the simucube does not right ? Thanks again great review as always
I don't have any experience with the simagic fx wheels. This has simhub compatibility which is very appealing. Any wheel with a screen wont be battery operated. I wont be able to answer your question properly before I review the Simagic wheel
GREAT good job any news for a review of meca simhardware sequential shifter ?
In the next week or two I will have first impressions
Nice review! Does the swipe work with gloves?
Only if the gloves work on a normal capacitive touch screen. So they need the little contact patch on the finger :D Thanks for the comment buddy
Thanks for the review. How big is the wheel and was it ok to use for GT racing or would the bigger wheel be better?
282mm and yes, perfect for GT driving
Hey Laurence, since this video is almost a year old now, have your thoughts changed about the magnetic cable connector, I’m looking into buying their QRX which has the same connector but I’m worried it’s not strong enough, thanks for your time.
The magnetic connector is AWESOME. I love it
Excellent, congratulations!
I loved NRG's Quick Release,
Did you buy a replica on Aliexpress or did you buy the genuine model? where did you buy it? thank you!!
reps can be hit or miss. worth the risk if the price is right. I'd just buy a simagic, moza or d1spec though. they're half the price of an NRG
I had the F-Pro for a WHILE and it is a great wheel, exact same shifters as these.... but something to keep in mind, the shifters are LOUD. They are nice and tactile but if your partner doesn't want to hear loud noises, then be prepared to invest in some headphones for them. I also had the same issue he had with the shifter traveling and I had to REALLY tightened the shifter. I was hoping that issue would be fixed but it looks like it is still there. Great wheel, would buy again but wish the paddles were quieter. My only feedback with the review is that the paddle sound is too low to what you will actually have in real life.
Yeah I didn’t mention the volume. I have louder and clickier shifters but these are also quite loud. Thanks for your comment as it will really help people who are concerned about noise
The dual clutch on my F-Pro arrived loose. I had to open up the wheel to properly tighten it down. I have heard of CC issues with CubeControl and I experienced it. I went with the F-Pro over the GSI because of the shifter noise and turns out these are loud too lol. Other than having to open up my brand new $1k+ wheel its been great. The grips on the CSX3 look more like what I want though as the F-Pro's can be a bit too small.
Even if you tighten the shifters, they are still easy to move out of place if you are a heavy handed racer. My one gripe about this wheel.
I don't have an issue with grip on my F-Pro and it uses the same material as this. I run this wheel on high torque mode all the time at 50% and I have ZERO issues with these grips. I thought it would be an issue after hearing that complain quite a bit but I think people just need to work out more. Thanks to my Rogue fitness Rack for helping have the grip to be able to "handle" my sim wheel lol
Ok 😂 It’s not a question of fitness/strength though. I don’t have any problems with this grip as I got used to it but the older one was softer and grippier which is even nicer in my opinion.
@@LaurenceDusoswa I have the f pro, and find the grips not usable without really good gloves, in my case alpine stars karting gloves with silicone grip materials.
@@LaurenceDusoswa I don't have an issue with this grip and I prefer this over softer stuff since it will last longer. If you have above average grip strength, then this grip wouldn't be an issue. Especially for the people that won't run High Torque at 50%-wheel strength. Reviews made it sound worse than it is. If you regularly lift couple of hundred pounds on a barbell bar with no gloves, then this plastic grip won't be an issue at all.
Nice review ! Can I ask where do you go find and download those exquisite simHUB dashes ? And is there a function for you to swipe to another dash in simHUB?
Simhub dashes are difficult to find. I wish there was a good marketplace out there. Facebook is a good place to go. So is discord, in the various discords like GSI or cube controls. I don’t think there’s a way to do a swipe to switch dashes unfortunately
@@LaurenceDusoswathanks for your response, greatly appreciate it! But those dashes are they safe to download and use in general?
@@wangoh-uo1gn yes
@@LaurenceDusoswathank you: is it best to overwrite existing dashes or completely delete the dash to reinstall? Also for some dashes with minor upgrades or changes, would simHUB detect it automatically? I’m assuming for any updates to a dashboard the name changes and will be recognized as a separate dash?
Also have you ever encountered some dashes that have overlapping text or some weird text configurations? The best guess is the font file but seems fine:
Maybe it’s the file itself that may be the issue or that the dash design itself is suited for a specific size of screen on a wheel?
The reason why I’m asking is because the text configuration looks the same when running in windowed mode
Purchasing based on this review! - thank you. I would love to know which model the NRG quick release is though ..
That’s an NRG 2.5 carbon edition ;)
@@LaurenceDusoswa deffo 2.5? Looked like a 2.0 in some pictures :)
Nice review! I bought one of these and agree with almost everything you say. I think the screen is great but I would, as this the only wheel I have ever used/seen with a screen, so I have nothing to compare it to. I do love the wheel, I thinks its great but by no means, perfect. Also, I can't seem to get the dual clutch paddles working in iRacing. It's a total mess! i have manged to get it going now, to some extent but if I use a rotary knob to adjust the bite point, iRacing no longer recognises the paddles. I also need to have the Cube Controls software open for the paddles to work with iRacing. The Podium shifters from Fanatec are WAY better in this regard. Is it worth the £1400 i paid for it? Not a chance. Do I regret buying it? Not a chance!
Great comment! I really like mine too but it’s not perfect
If I install my Simucube quick release on that back adapter do I just put the screw through the threaded holes or do I need a nut on the back side?
3 holes are threaded and 3 are not. And you only need 3 bolts installed. Hope that helps.
Good evening,
I wanted to ask for information
is this steering wheel compatible with PS5 ??
can simagic quick realease be mounted on this wheel? saw that in your video, which size are fiit?(50/70mm)
yes. The 70mm QR fits great!
Good job. Nice wheel. I do want it but the practicality of a screen just has me torn. 👍🏾
Yeah I know what you mean :)
Why doesn't youtube have a DM function. Anyway bro I am patiently waiting for the meca evo1 hydro review. Any idea on when we can expect the video?
First impressions should be next week some time I think
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thanx bro I'm really looking forward to it.
Great review. However the offerings from Rexxing, GSI, VPG and and so on make this a hard choice. Yes, you get the Formula Pro and a stand alone 5" Simhub compatible screen, but its not an all-in-one. Still though for 1500 quid, its a lot of money and for that, the wheel needs to be near perfect....and I feel this just isn't.
I’m not sure anything ever will be that perfect. I know what you mean though. It’s a huge purchase
If you were buying only one wheel, would you put you money to, Gsi, VPG or Cube Controls, been waiting for this wheel but feeling underwhelmed, now leaning towards Gsi.
Same. I used the GSI Formula before, it rocks. I am waiting though to see what their updated version consists of when the announce in the near future
I have only reviewed the cube controls and the vpg. I haven't gotten my hands on a GSI wheel yet. I need to speak with them at the expo :p
@@chuckystang I believe Dan Suzuki, streamed a race with a prototype!
@@LaurenceDusoswa Now that you're at SimExpo, how does your initial impressions of the GSI Hyper P1 compare to this?
Very nice wheel. I have a F-Pro and the only thing I don’t like is the grip material. There’s no grip. I prefer to use gloves and it’s not possible with this new material.
I use Minus 273 gloves on mine. Grips very nicely. They're pricey but they last.
My IMB Racewear gloves do a secs f job of gripping them too. I love the shape of the grips though because they allow me to really grab and hold on. A grippier material would be nice for sure but not a deal breaker for me
Try the amazing grips made in real professional rubber of the Esportsim FSW Series 2
I don't have an issue with grip on my F-Pro and it uses the same material as this. I run this wheel on high torque mode all the time at 50% strength and I have ZERO issues with these grips. I thought it would be an issue after hearing that complain quite a bit, but I think people just need to work out more. Thanks to my Rogue fitness Rack for helping have the grip to be able to "handle" my sim wheel lol
Grips are perfect for me....with gloves or without one;)
i mean i would love to hav this for LMP cars ! and use GSI for GT ....
Hahaha that would be awesome
I have a GSI formula pro elite & i have USB issues (i have Intel processor) where my usb disconnects & buttons stop working. Has anyone experienced something like this or data output issues with the CSX 3? thanks!
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Do you have this issue when you connect directly to the pc? Do you have a lot of usb devices connected?
Is the screen compatible with JRT?
Great question. I would guess that the screen can be made work but the LEDs and button backlights probably not. Good question though
Is the touch screen responsive to racing gloves?
Only if the gloves work with a smartphone already. Some do
This could have been us FANATEC.
😂😂😂
Can you use these wheels with any base?
yep they're USB
@@LaurenceDusoswa nice so the wheel has its own programs and the base for example a Fanatec you setup with fanalab and that's it? Never thought I could ever use these wheels. Thanks for the info
@@taxi615 You will need a podium hub or fanatec emulator to mount the wheel as otherwise you won't get any ffb
Is the size or shape of the grip the same as the csx2?
From my memory, yes
Pretty hard sell when u can get the fx pro for a little over half what this costs.
Yep but the extra features are enough to justify it for those who want it
@@LaurenceDusoswa correct me if I’m wrong but the only real extra features that I’m aware of vs the fx pro is simhub integration. Other than that they seem pretty evenly matched.
To be clear I’m referring to the simagic fx pro
How wide is the rim?
I mention it in the video. 282mm
@@LaurenceDusoswa Ah, I missed it, thanks.
How to download software
Go to the cube controls website
If you don't Laurence naming the dashboards featured in this video.
Sure:
1. PRINCIPAL
2. Control centre by Wotever
3. Leaderboard by Goby
4. Dallara P217 LMP2 by Dan Suzuki and S1KRR
5. PSE DDU Dashboard
@@LaurenceDusoswa thanks
@@LaurenceDusoswa Hey Laurence - great review, just ordered this after watching your video. Do have any other dashes you’ve come to enjoy over the last month? I’m never used sim hub so any recommendations help….trying to prevent getting to overwhelmed at the start haha Thanks
Weight? Did I miss how it compares to others in the weight department. Overall, for the price, underwhelmed, sorry.
1143 gr. I didn't mention it :D It's not very heavy
Ascher F64-v3 + any 5" Vocore DDU is better than this wheel, and cheaper. Cube wheels looking nice, but it is only the look. I hate it's grips, buttons, and funky switches. Funky switches are let down on this wheels because it doesn't click and go left right like Ascher does. Funky on Cube feels like a sponge, and if you click in either direction after passing that direction point it clicks, when it clicks, it is perceived as middle click function. So I hated that in my Cube wheels honestly. If you want to use that to any direction, you shouldn't click the funky just point that direction and not fully to engage direction functions. Shifters are ok, but the loosening screw is a thing. It loosens after sometime and gets an angle in time.
Thanks for the amazing review Laurance. Imho 4" screen kinda looks ridiculous on this wheel, it is too small and there is no point paying that extra instead of F-PRO. Everyone must consider getting an F-PRO and a static screen like 5" Grid DDU
Hi! Funky switches have been updated with the introduction of the F-PRO. Now their feedback is neat and works exactly as you wish!
@@CubeControls I don't think so Cube, Will (Boosted Media) also said this issue for F-PRO, and that was the let down again. You have lost me
@@chiefzski if you are referring to his review, please can you point to this very specific feedback? For us it's important to understand. Thank you in advance.
@@CubeControls Will said in his review that, after some usage, funky buttons lost its clickiness and softened. Now only works silently, if you hit the very end of the directions, it clicks but functions as push button. Are you using Alps Alpine switches?
I personally find the LED's a little childish. The design is very "gamey" and remind me of brands like Razor. Along with the indented screen (I sit a little higher than most) and the rotaries not being turnable from the back, I cant justify the price anymore. Too many cons for that much money.
I hear what you’re saying. It’s a tough one
I'm not a fan of Cube Controls to be honest, at least not their wireless wheels. Their use of non user replaceable rechargeable LiPo batteries in wireless wheels has left me with a dead GT Pro Zero. Even though it's under guarantee it's not worth the 3 to 400 euros shipping, import duty and tax and inspection fees (by customs), not to mention the hassle to get it repaired.
I hope their USB wheels are less encumbered with stupid design decisions.
No need to send it back! We can send to you a battery and replace it very easily! Please contact us and our customer support team will take care of it! :)
@@CubeControls That's good to know, and I'll be in touch in a few days. It's not urgent as I've already transferred the actual rim to another button box.
Many thanks for replying.
I have never owned their wireless wheels so I cannot comment. This is my third wired wheel from them
@@LaurenceDusoswa Well they've reached out to me, and offered to send me a replacement battery, so you can't say fairer than that.
Bitching about it then Cube control offering an easy solution to this small problem then says I'll be in touch in a couple days feels like trolling by someone that probably doesn't even own their wheels or you would have wrote them and knew about how easy changing the battery is.
It's cube controls. So don't buy this crap
Feel free to elaborate on this