REVIEW - Cube Controls F-CORE "Entry-Level" Sim Racing Wheel
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- Cube Controls has been considered one of the more high end brands when it comes to Sim Racing hardware for quite some time now. We've been lucky enough to review quite a number of their wheels over the years including the GT-Pro and Formula Pro Wireless, the CSX3 with integrated dash and the F-PRO and while all of them have been great, the price point has placed them out of the question for the majority of sim racers.
So we were very excited when they reached out and asked if we would like to review the new F-CORE wheel. As the name suggests, this wheel takes what Cube Controls have identified as the core essential features from their more expensive wheels, and makes them available in a more affordable 290mm diameter formula style wheel.
So Let's check it out!
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TIME STAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - Important Information
1:18 - Compatibility &Pricing
3:19 - Hardware Overview
13:26 - Software Overview
20:22 - Driving Experience & Conclusions
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This channel is dangerous!! I popped in to watch the review of the F-Core and ended up buying a F pro... Man!!! How did that happen!!
Definitely a hole in the market in this segment. It’s starting to feel like wheels are costing more than they should. $1.5k wheels just keep getting released and if you want a half decent 3rd party formula style wheel you need to spend big.
A big reason for a price like 1,5k is the display which they often charge an extra 400-500€ for. Thankfully years ago I bought a DIY display to mount on my wheelbase for like 90€ and came to the conclusion that i dont need it cuz i never looked at it once. And thats why I would never buy a wheel with a display. All the information is already in the game, what would i need a display for besides immersion but 400-500€ for a bit more immersion? nah.
@@Xzibitfreek I’ve never used a display, but if I had one I’d doubt id use it. Even without a display wheels are being released for quite high prices like the F-pro, Grid MPX, VRS etc.
I have a t248 cost me £300 , I had problems with it but since have had it replaced and came back feeling like new software etc had been added into the wheel . I can honestly say the whole set up including pedals is very impressing for the money. Especially whilst you need to mortgage your house to buy anything better !
Liking before watching the entire video because we all know that it’s gonna filled with valid opinions, vital information and most importantly, i won’t feel like I’m being sold a product that might not be the best for me. Great work, Will! Keep it up!
Fackz... thought it was just me😅
This is where the VRS wheel should have been in terms of its market positioning.
Problem with wheels designed this way is imo:
If you like formula/open wheelers, then you want to have a display. With a display wheel you can race GT cars, LM cars, Indycars aswell. And one won't have thoughts like "LEDs, colour graded information on tyre temp etc would really be cool" no more.
About this review: Is immho an absolute top job from you. Without beeing rude you clearly named the cons by their names. Totally fair, and totally honest. If there is more good it's always easy/easier to address it. We have so much new simracing products that it is more important than ever to point to the unpleasant differences. I can clearly feel that you also heading towards this direction. Thanks for that. I watched the review knowing the wheel is nothing for me. It's absolutely worth watching. Total respect
Hey Will, I got this wheel last week and have been racing with it since then. While the grips are more tacky than the pro, I don't find that they collect a lot of dust or skin on them. They are pretty much clean after leaving it for a week in the rig. Also I appreciate that the grips are softer than the f pro, it feels nicer on bare hands in my opinion. I had an ascher wheel before with also soft grips that collected a lot of dust, this one actually didn't for me so far. Maybe that changes in the future with more use. Just wanted to throw that out in case other people wanted to hear a different opinion.
I love the looks of this wheel. And I don't need LEDs on a wheel, they are just distracting to me.
Thanks for the video as always! Interesting product indeed but man the illuminated buttons on the Pro are so sexy :)
Awesome review as usual! Would love for you to check out the Leoxz wheel one day.
Thanks for the review. Not sure if it has made my decision about going for the F-Core or pre-ordering the GSI X-29 any easier. Not fussed about the less buttons on the X-29 but could you comment on the button feel of a GSI wheel compared with the F-Core? I'm also thinking the grips on the X-29 look like they might be better and the paddle shifters should be better.
I still have a bug with the bitpoint mngmt. Once it is bound to a rotary and I am using it in any game, the other clutch paddle do not put the clutch at 100%.
Hi Will, just ordered that one because I like the CubeControl Wheels :) Do you know if this is the same they show for Mercedes AMG or will there come an additional one for Mercedes AMG? Great Review as usual :) Have a great day mate
I'm happy with my $379 Fanatec wheel. Wheels are starting to cost as much as GPUs lol.
Just ordered one wheel 😃
What wheel bases can you use this with? Also, if you could start indicating pricing by calculating how many you could buy for one force feedback brake pedal, that would be great.
Also, want to see some race footage of you in iracing with the new force feedback pedals - hopefully getting some podiums!
Love your channel Will. Stay fast man.
My kids want a gaming pc what’s minimum should be looking at have you done video on start up gaming pc? Cheers
Could i mount a 6x50mm pcd qr on it? Simagic has one so I wouldn't need the hub.
I was always confused about 50mm and 50.8mm pcd.
Love this wheel. Nice video dear Will.
Is the acceleration better on the F1 games on fanetec pedals.
Great review again. Now, i've no technical knowledge whatsoever and i'm wondering: Could you do a review on how to connect a compatable wheel to a diffrent wheelbase. I think a lot of people have a Fanatec wheelbase for example and really like this wheel. I'm still a bit in the dark about how to connect this compatibable wheel to my DD2. What kind of hub do i need, where can i get them (Fanatec or Cube Control) and how do i connect them/set them up without braking stuff (yes i'm a moron). Would be nice to see a whole range of different compatable wheels and a range of different wheelbases for comparison. What do peeple need, what to take in on account. Pay no attention to my use of the English language please, i'm not a native spreaker. Keep up the good work, really enyoying this channel
Sorry if I missed this Will, but for Simucube owners can this connect directly to the base/TrueDrive, or is a bluetooth dongle and the Cube Controls software required?
The wheel is not using the simucube wireless protocol. You're going to setup the wheel with the cube control app and connect to your PC's Bluetooth functionality or using a Bluetooth dongle if your motherboard doesn't have Bluetooth.
Microcenter has a bundle of Simucube Sport 2 and the Fcore2. It cost 999$ dollars you think that it is a good deal?
So I have to buy the hub if I plan to use it on simucube sport?
looking for my first gt / f1 wheel for my vrs pro. i’m interested in this
With this wheel be able to connect to a Simucube? Great job as always.
i had some real quality problems with my F pro, the plastic surrounds for the buttons was loose in a couple of spots, would easily come away from the body with a brush of the thumb, one of the worst aspects of cube wheels for me... even contacted cube controls about it having only had it a few weeks and they wouldn't replace it they just said send it in and they would super glue it down lol no thanks cube controls, ill pass, luckily the shop i purchased it from agreed to exchange it and footed the bill to send it back to cube controls for their refurbishment process (apparently costly)... probably will skip cube controls moving forward aslong as they use that solution for the button surrounds. Currently using the Asetek forte wheel and honestly i think its just made better, the cube controls materials are higher end but the construction of the Asetek is smarter, everything feels more as one, no plastic you can move around its just all integrated so well making the wheel feel one piece. Pains me to say it because the cube wheels are so damn sexy but i think they really do stumble with the construction... in my experience ofcourse, had the same issues with the old formula pro and the F pro.
Thanks for sharing your experience. This kind of input is always extremely valuable to the community.
Is that wheels have leds in buttons
Thank you for the review. I think the content here actually turned me away just enough to put the F-Core in my pass list. I am curious there are plans to review the new Ascher Racing wheels, the F28 v2 and the F64 v3. Thanks again Boosted Media.
Yep we have the F64v3 here for review. Will get to it as soon as we can.
@@boostedmedia Awesome. Looking forward to the review when it's released.
I have the F64 V3 and it's a fantastic wheel. Also about double this price. I think Boosted Media reviewed one of the earlier revs (V2). It hasn't changed much other than the added 2 thumb encoders on the bottom half. I find them easy to flick with my thumb or ring finger. The two middle encoders can be cw/ccw pulse or position switches which account for the 24/64 inputs (somewhere around there). Shifters and clutches on the back are also excellent, but quite loud.
I think Ascher Racing also plans to release some more wheels but no eta as of now. Probably will be expensive...
My current wheel is the Sim Racing Bay button box with a sparco r330 rim and the shifters I would consider loud so it's not something I have an issue with since I'm in an isolated room. My thing is trying to minimize the amount of apps I need to run on my PC for sim racing. The Ascher has my attention because it communicates through the Simucube True Drive app and that is a positive for me. I do appreciate your experience with the wheel.
Love the video and all the info you give us. I have a question that you may be able to help me solve. With me being a machinist and having access to the right machines, and this wheel also being Bluetooth, do you think it would be possible to get this wheel to work with my G Pro system if I made an adapter? I want a formula style wheel because I mainly race F1 22. And as you know, there is no wheel like this for Logitech
Hi there, where to buy It in the USA?
When I looked for a wheel for a potential VRS wheelbase and I didnt want to spend more than 700€, especially for a dual clutch wheel, there barely was any choice. well, i mean, this wheel does cost 760€ in Germany rn but there are very few wheels on the market in that price segment. Most notably Polsimer and Simline. Want Dual Clutch in an Ascher wheel? 1100€. Want Dual Clutch in a GSI wheel? That would be 1160€. Cube Controls? That would be 1030€ (before this wheel), VRS wheel, 997€, GRID MPX 1180.
Even the new "more affordable" GSI X-29 will cost more than 900€ in the dual clutch version, so this wheel definitely sits in a league of its own.
Polsimer now offers dual clutches on their formula rim.
If i buy this wheel to use it on Forte Direct Drive Wheelbase 18Nm, do i need to purchase the hub or not please?
Not a bad price. I paid €658 for my ascher f28 SC V2. Looks pretty good aswell. Maybe like the looks more than the ascher.
Love your vids. Just wanted to let you know. Something sounds off with the sounds. I'm using headphones and I can hear it.
Yep there was an issue with the recording that we didn’t pick up until we shot the entire thing (sounded fine on live monitoring). Will be fixed for the next one.
When Are you doing the asetek la prima wheelbase review?
Likely late June or July
A cheap cube is something I really appreciate. Even though I mostly play Iracing and ACC. I still need PS support for the rare time I feel like playing an Arcade game like GT7 though 😅.
ok i just wanna know who uses all or most of the buttons on the wheel? i really wanna know i barely use more then three or four but i see wheels with so many buttons i just wonder do you really need all that
4 buttons and 4 encoders is usually enough for me. 5 buttons if I’m chatting over voice and need PTT
Someone needs to do a modern porsche gt3 r wheel. That fanatec is still a round wheel is crazy.
Did I miss comparison to Asetek Forte wheel?
Was mentioned briefly a few times. Not a lot of point in spending ages on it as it’s ecosystem specific.
Im left a little confused on what exactly is needed to run this wheel with a Fanatec CSL DD. Cube Controls website states a podium hub is needed, however if this wheel is running on its own software for button/rotary inputs then is that truly necessary? Could a guy just run the adapter with a QR-1 for example? Clarification would be awesome. Love the channel, my go to for reviews on products that I may actually be interested in.
Force feedback doesn’t work on fanatec bases unless a universal or podium hub is connected. So yeah that’s correct.
@@boostedmedia Thank you for the clarification!
@@boostedmedia one more question, is the Cube controls hub needed to also add the Podium hub from Fanatec?
I would swap my fanatec v2.5x out for this instantly, if the buttons would have backlight. Seems great
Can I ask why? I am perfectly happy with my V2. So many buttons and sliders which are all very useful. Much more than this one.
Forgive me for this somewhat silly question, but could this be used on a Thrustmaster Base that allows for wheel interchanging ? I am assuming that as it is USB/bluetooth then all that is needed is a suitable adaptor !, It is a great looking wheel that offers far more options than Thrustmasters current range of Ecosystem wheels, so would be a great upgrade for those wheelbases
no. thrustmaster uses plastic threads to hold the wheels whereas these are proper quick releases.
@@J03130 there are compatable QR's for thrustmaster which would allow such a wheel to be mounted ( check out Peter makes things on youtube) so that wouldn't be an issue I don't think. so may I adjust my question with the Caviate of " with a suitable QR" could you mount this wheel to a TM Base ?
@nemesismcc I would assume thrustmaster requires an electrical connection into the wheelbase itself for FFB to work. If that's the case, I would avoid this wheel as you would need to DIY the connection.
Besides, people buy thrustmaster usually for the price or ecosystem. It wouldn't make sense to buy this wheel before upgrading your wheelbase.
@@samuelye2860 The Thrustmaster wheel base is connected via USB to the PC, the connections within the wheel are for the buttons etc on said wheels and LED's if fitted, so the base would read the FFB from the PC, so that wouldn't be an issue. As for budget that is down to the individual, if they want to spend 600 or so on a wheel thats is for them to make that choice, but some of Thrustmasters Ecosystem wheels are pretty high up in the price range, but with less features than this particular wheel. The F1000 is over £350 and as I said has less features.
@nemesismcc I'm quite sure the sf1000 wheel has more features, not less. Not to mention, it's cheaper.
If the wheelbase works without a thrustmaster wheel connected, then it would be fine. Companies like fanatec lock the wheelbase if there isn't a wheel connected to the wheel base.
Just test it in-game without a wheel rim connected to your wheelbase. If FFB still works, then you have your answer.
I definitely want companies to start on the console journey..they forget about us people that would love pc simracing but unfortunately cannot afford it..strange as the money to be made In console racing is huge and getting bigger every year
I wanna see you drift with this
Still patiently awaiting the Thrustmaster T818 rewiev. :(
I had high hopes to add this to my other cube controls GT wheel but those shift paddles have turned me off
As much as I want a super fancy wheel, my $250 Thrustmaster T150 Pro force feedback gets the job done. Although, ive bever used an expensive wheel. So maybe i just dont know what im missing lol
Is that a volvo xc90 in the back?
Yep
Laughs in Fanatec Clubsport Esport wheel. Or if required, buy a conversion kit from simracingmachines.
I just would imagine that if i wanted to connect this to Fanatec DD1 that is a non starter. Which is a pity because Fanatec still doesnt have a "nice" GT wheel.
Yes you can. But you’d have to buy the podium hub module they sell or a 3rd party one. That’s what I do and it works just fine
@@scbaseball12 Doesnt that make the whole thing very heavy? I run the Fanatec McLaren wheel because its nice and light.
The F-PRO should cost what the base F-CORE goes for. No lights even though it would cost nothing just so you want the more expensive one. Nice.
I mean 600-800 I'd rather spend a little bit more and get the ultra baller pro model rather than the stripped down plain version. kinda sad that at either price point you dont get rev strip
@BosstedMedia I Don't know if the problem is on me, but your voice seems wierd, realy robotic, is it you ? your mic maybe ? or only my headset?
definitly not my headset, it's so anoying that a switched on my TV and same robotic voice with high pitch sometimes. really reall y anoying :/
Yeah there is an issue with the audio on this one unfortunately. It was only on the recording, not in our monitor so we didn’t realise until we’d shot the entire video. Will be fixed for the next one.
@@boostedmedia btw good review as usual !👍
Will nice video mate👍 I came across this pro drivers RUclips channel interesting guy.. here is a video about correct Fov for monitor ect..you may already know about this guy..
You should review the simagic pedals
Sorry. We don't review Simagic products at present after past experiences dealing with them.
Fwiw, I own a set of simagic P2000's and love them (Interested to know what happened between Simagic and Will). Better than my old Fanatec V3, Cheaper than Heusinkvelds, and works pretty much out of the box. I like the pedal plates, the adjustability, and how it looks and feels. I got all the extras, like heel plate and extended throttle pedal, which I think improves the experience even more. Plenty of reviews out there, with little negatives reported, which is why I chose it as my upgrade
I purchased a Simagic Alpha base and GT4-C wheel a few months ago from gamergeardirect and now they no longer sell Simagic. In fact, they now have a page on their site suggesting what the ‘better’ options are. Something is up with that too.
@@boostedmedia Will this change in the future? It'd be really helpful for consumers to get your channel's detailed reviews on their products.
@@maximilliank6339 Maybe when they accept the negative part of a review ?
50.8mm??? So different than the standard 50mm that is used for most irl as well as moza and simagic?
Pretty sure those are 50.8 as well
This is mid range and averaging $700 now. Anything thats 500 to 900 is mid range and high end is 900+
Just purchased this wheel, going for the GT Neo instead. The shifters are not great, they feel like toys.
GSI X-29
I would love to buy a fanatec wheel but there so dam expensive.
That logo mess' with my brain, there's something NQR about it!🤨
wow being this early to see a new video seem odd hahahaa
What time of day is it for Will!!! It's 5AM for us lol
@@elmalloc 10amish in the uk.
Sadly only small size formula wheels for consumers. The need to release their mercedes gt wheel for consumers, even if it has cheaper built.
500 Euro for a wheel is not entry level, what are these people smoking?
Totally agree...I don't understand how it costs so much.
It's definitely entry-level if you isolate the space to universal compatability wheels. There's stuff like polsimer, but the level of quality just doesn't compare.
It is entry level to high end wheels. It is not entry level like a Fanatec CSL or Clubsport wheel.
That is not a budget wheel rim 😂. Actually slightly offensive that it's advertised to be 😂
470 euros for an entry level wheel 🙄
Ascher > Cube Controls
gonna have to start a youtube channel just to afford a wheel also this is no where near entry level when you can get an entire r5 setup for this price
Truoble is the cheaper wheels look boring.
u forgot to say 200€ for shipping ( like usual in sim racing ) so even budget sim things is not even budget BECUSE OF THE SHIPPING.... and there is noone else to blame then the manufacture themself like moza or simcube but moza is even worse...
no moza dealers etc in your country? wasn't much more from dealer for my HBP and the r9 wasn;t badly priced shipped. Much less than my csl dd was.
I said to check local resellers.
I just ordered this in the Netherlands. 39 EUR shipping from Italy.
i just order in italy has no say in anything man, it just means u SPECIFUCALLY got a good price ( prolly cuse of tax ), in scandinavia ur not gonna get anything under 200€ shipping from moza and u have to also wait FUCKING MONTHS for just 1 product... so u end up waiting almost half a year for some fucking gaming gear GREAT makes sim racing so cool. i guess there really isnt away unless you are super rich or a youtuber who get express shipping next day with 500€ cash and brand new gaming gear
@@diszturr7009 Im Australian. We have to pay tax on anything even if bought overseas. Then we have to wait for slow shipping. Quicker to get moza than it is to get fanatec.
Tacky grip material. Probably that stuff that disintegrates over time. No thanks, pass.
We have quite a few other wheels that use the same material and deterioration hasn’t been a problem on any of those.
@@boostedmedia Racing these with gloves or bare hands? Could make a difference.
Consumerism is so rife with this hobby its laughable. I'm familiar with other "computer gadget" hobbies like mechanical keyboards and high end AV gear, and while it can be hard to understand why those people spend hundreds-up to thousands on something as basic as a mechanical keyboard or pair of headphones, they are likely to actually use that equipment multiple times a week, possibly daily.
People will happily spend thousands on sim racing gear, and then maybe use their rig maybe once a week.
I have a couple of mates that have 80/20 rigs and simucubes, fancy DD rigs and even VR. They play iRacing maybe once a fortnight or week.
While I'm here with a cockpit frame I built myself out of timber with a 5 yro Thrustmaster wheel and pedals. It's been busy at work recently but I try to play a few times a week and get on the GT world series cup or LFM lobbies on the weekends.
Needless to say it's not hard to guess who is actually faster and racing or when we go to the rental karts irl...
Not necessarily, I know a lot of people hop on the sim every night.
If someone really feels the need or want to get some “high end” gear then so be it.
No need to impose your views on others with completely different financial and life situations and priorities.
@@KayJblue 100% this. Let people do what they want with their money. If someone wants to blow $5k for a rig and race once in a while, cool. As long as you have fun.
Also the self-fellating attitude of “I spent so much less and I’m faster!” Is just cringe.
@@KayJblue Sure, cope and tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
If people want spend money and as long as they get enjoyment by larping as a race car driver I can't stop them. Just remember there is a saying, a fool and his money are soon parted.
Buying high end hardware isnt about becoming a faster driver and climbing the ranks. You buy high end hardware for a more enjoyable experience and better immersion. If your lap times improve with that, thats just an added bonus.
Funny you mention GT cars because GT3 is a class developed with a high priority on being as easy to drive as possible because its a class with a lot of amateur drivers who arent necessarily the most skilled drivers but simply have a lot of money and just want to race for fun. in case you havent noticed it, those kind of drivers are MOST drivers in motorsports. People who drive for the sake of driving and the enjoyment that comes with it, not winning. Winning is just a bonus.
Those few thousands for a high end simrig are peanuts compared to somebody spending millions to drive a GT3 season in whatever championship.
You sound like youre just jealous of your mates having high end setups while you dont.
Most people dont approach simracing with the mindset that they want to be the best driver in the world, they approach simracing with the intent to have an enjoyable racing experience. If I wanted as much iRating as I could possibly have, I would have to do things that simply wouldnt be any fun, such as spamming a car/track combination and exclusively driving one class to perfect my skills in that class. But that is not fun for me, I like to swap cars frequently, last sunday I drive the Toyota GR86 on the Nordschleife for 4 hours with a friend and it was an absolute blast. The following weekend im feeling like driving a GTE on Spa. Is it good for my iRating? no. Am I having a blast? Absolutely and thats what its all about.
@@AKK5I just remember "jealousy is a curse".... Cope harder champ.. 👍🏻
So many reviews and hardly any racing, tbh a bit disappointed as I have been following you for awhile