Differentiating 2nd and 3rd tone is definitely the hardest for me! I think it's specifically the 2nd tone - I almost never guess that something is a 2 when its a 3, but I constantly think 2 is a 3 😔
Yesss, that's my exact problem. I keep mistaking the 2nd for a 3rd when it's at the beginning of a word, but I distinguish them in isolation or when at the end
For people who are having trouble: I don't know how many people are taught this, but you could try doing exercises where you say all the tones for a sound, like ma1 ma2 ma3 ma4. If you try this with words/tones that you're unsure of, you can usually figure it out by hearing which one matches the word/tone you're trying to identify.
Of course, such exercise will not help, just like practicing the yoyo Chinese chart for hours. The only way to master tones is by listening to Chinese, podcasts, short stories, and watching movies. This is a very long process that may take even years. In the presented recording, the teacher reads slowly for the first time and then very slowly. How does this compare to a normal conversation where Chinese people speak at a natural speed and also quickly, where they speak full sentences and not single words in slow motion? The worst thing a person starting out can do is pay too much attention to the tones and try to master them as a separate branch, it doesn't work like that. Pronunciation, of course, is very important, as are tones, I'm not saying they can be ignored. You have to keep them at the back of your mind, but the most important thing is learning the characters, reading and listening, and being exposed to the Chinese language. Otherwise, frustration will increase and bad thoughts will arise: 'maybe I don't have the right hearing', 'maybe I'll never master the tones', 'maybe the Chinese language is too difficult for me'? Therefore, I highly recommend not to be too hard on yourself, and avoid testing your knowledge of tones, as it may have a negative effect. Trust the learning process and systematicity, and the results will come. I am writing this as a person who has been learning Chinese almost every day for over 2 years. I see a huge improvement in my pronunciation and tones, but I also remember my first steps and big problems in distinguishing tones. Lots of people have learned Chinese, and you can too. 加油！
@lunarSkys As a native English speaker, I think neutral tone acts a bit like the "'ve" in "would've" or "should've". It's quick, loose, and doesn't need a pitch. Take 哥哥 for instance, which sounds like gē guh, just a minimal puff of air. All neutral tones sound sort of like an echo of the immediately previous tone.
I got 3 wrong🙁or 3 half-wrong if it can count like that. They were #4, #9 and #19, which were all either 1,0 or 1,3. I think the 2,0 pair is easier to distinguish, but the neutral tones in the 1,0 and 1,3 pairs sound like a similar low pitch to me. I wasn’t sure which ones were short enough lol This was fun though. Since all my mistakes were similar tone pairs, it definitely showed me what I need to pay more attention to. Thanks always!
Ni hao Ni hao ma Grace! I’ve stared watching your videos about a week now and I have to say that your videos are good for me to learn Chinese. The way you explain it it’s very easy, simple and straight to the point. Best at teaching Chinese. And your English is good. Keep it up ✌🏽
I got 6 of them wrong and 4 of them were a 2nd tone that I thought was a 3rd. But after listening to it like this I realized that the 3rd tone is a lot lower, while the 2nd tone goes higher at the end. So I'll pay more attention to it in the future!
I got #3, 4, 8, 9, 15, & 19 half wrong. I was taught that 3rd tone falls then rises but I definitely didn't hear that here. It sounds much more like mid-falling and I picked that up quick after #3. If only I had continued to consistently apply that thought, I would have got #8 & #15 right. #4 sounded like 3rd tone because of what I had just learned, but it was no tone. Then guess I overcorrected for that, because the other 2 mistakes were in the opposite direction.
9 completely correct 8 one of two correct 3 both wrong Most problematic was the 24 pair for me as I always think 3 is the first one, so I should work on distinguishing 2 and 3 more
I found the 4th tone hard to distinguish, 20 phrases with two tones each is 40 tone in total to recognise out of which I did 36 with a breeze. Feeling proud of myself hahaha
No one seems to struggle between the 1st tone and 4th tone except me. For example, In "zaizang", when it is spoken quickly, it sounds like two 4th tones to me.
I got the first one right, but then second guessed it :( The mistakes I made were: 1: 1-4, should be 2-4 (2→1) 6: 3-4, should be 2-4 (2→3) 9: 1-4, should be 1-3 (3→4) 19: 2-3, should be 1-3 (1→2) Well, there doesn't seem to be a lot of logic behind my mistakes. I guess there's no quick fix, I'll need to get better at hearing in general, lol. Thank you, this is a great way to practice :)
I got 15/20 but 5 false answers are only 1 of them :) For me, the difficult part is the 1 and 2 tone. I think it's because at the end I hear the same tone (high tone) so really have to hear from the beginning of the tone to the final tone in focus mode
Got 13 right which is definitely a lot more than I anticipated, but also, could never distinguish them in conversation, just when it's spoken really clearly... I have most problems with the 3rd tone, it always sounds like either the 2nd or 4th somehow to me
I got 12 right. It's weird , I have difficulty with the 2nd and 4th even though they are opposites. I can never tell which one is the neutral tone. The first is pretty easy usually and the 3rd can be easy too because the vocal fry, creaky voice gives it way. I have trouble producing creaky voice a lot of times, so I don't know how I'll be able to do that 3rd tone.
31/40 if your counting individual characters and 12/20 for the ones I got fully right. Trying to tell the difference between tones 2 and 3 is the hardest for me and where I messed up the most.
I didn’t count but it was about 50/50, maybe slightly above because I get 1st and neutral right at least. Otherwise I’m completely abysmal at this and pretty much always have been (I was also terrible in music class). 2&3 in particular are basically a toss up for me.
We really got hit with the "inflation" and "gas prices surge" at the end. Thanks for the video, I've been looking for some more practice on differentiating tones recently so this was just what I needed :)
Dear Grace, One quick question. If someone pronounces 不是 as bu4 shi4 instead of bu2 shi4 due to tone change, would a native speaker like yourself understand? Or, confusing. I am proficient in american english, Cantonese, and shanghainese. Mapping 九聲六調 to 四聲 has been somewhat tricky. Many thanks and keep up the excellent work. Enjoy your Midwest stay!!
The most important thing that I've noticed in the comments is that there are a lot of people, including me, who sometimes misrecognize the third tone as the second. I think that subject is worth a video. Thanks for making this video ❤️
Ok so ots my second day of learning (I have been learning tones for a few months though) and I got 15/20! I hope to are still learning chinese and having fun doing so! Good luck with learning!
Which tone do you find the hardest to distinguish? - The complete answers for today’s challenge (including Pinyin and Zhuyin): gracemandarinchinese.com/chinese-tone-challenge/
@@GraceMandarinChinese In the context of a sentence, I do struggle to hear the difference between 2 and 3. I mean, I sometimes mistake the 2nd tone for the 3rd tone, but not the other way around.
Second drives me nuts, it’s both hard to catch and hard to say properly. Or maybe I’m saying third too much like second… idk cause I can’t make my voice go that deep for third without it getting swallowed and then it’s just a mumble
OUCH! 3/20 or 20/40. I'll definitely be spending more time on this video and any others like it that I can find. I wonder if there is an Anki deck for this kind of practice. THANK YOU, Grace! I needed to know how much practice I needed. This showed me.
thank you so much for the test ! its very interesting, easy to follow and helpful ! for me is that i easily get 1st and 3rd tones but mess up 2nd and 4th tones often xD i think the 4th tone is the most hardest for me cause i make mistakes with it almsot everytime, but that makes me want to practice with it more ! thank you so much again !
I did very bad, but when listening to Chinese if they say some of the few words or phrases im quite familiar with I can understand it but for sure can't tell the tones even in those decreasingly rare moments.
20/20. but when the cases of 3 and 4, 2 and 4 were rapidly pronounced, it was the hardest to recognize for foreigner. I reckon in that cases, it is recommend to get familiar with context of dialogue.
I got 3/20 for getting both characters right and 15/40 for singles characters. I find this test fascinating for learning the tones. Thanks for making it!
My results are kinda chaotic 😅 But I learn Chinese only for a month now, so I guess it's not that bad? 1. 2 ,4 (I heard 2, 1) 2. 1,1 (I heard 1,1) 3. 3,4 (I heard 3,4) 4. 1,0 (I heard 1,3) 5. 2,4 (I heard 2,4) 6. 2,4 (I heard 3,4) 7. 3,2 (I heard 3,2) 8. 2,2 (I heard 1,1) 9. 1,3 (I heard 1,3) 10. 3,4 (I heard 3,2) 11. 2,2 (I heard 2,2) 12. 3,1 (I heard 3,1) 13. 1,2 (I heard 1,3) 14. 1,1 (I heard 2,1) 15. 4,2 (I heard 2,3) 16. 2,4 (I heard 3,4) 17. 2,4 (I heard 3,4) 18. 2,0 (I heard 2,0) 19. 1,3 (I heard 1,3) 20. 3,4 (I heard 3,4)
I really love these challenges to test myself. I think there are too few out there, so thank you very much :) I had two wrong and I already expected it but both were the third tone. I still struggle with this one 😔 But again thank you very much. Maybe you could make it harder and form sentences where we need to listen to the tone in order to get the correct translation or meaning? 🤔 So it’s not just listening but implementing at the same time. Like we’d have to do in real life situations? I don’t know if that would be too hard to do or not enough people would be interested in that but I think I’d be a good challenge 😅 Thanks again and have a nice day 😊
I got all of them right except for number 9, in which I mistook the 3rd for the 2nd tone. I think it helped my score that you repeated slowly afterwards lol
The importance of tones is rather exaggerated in mandarin Chinese. Any given street corner you will find dozens of people speaking the same words with different tones. Very few follow the standard tones taught in schools naturally unless you are some announcer on television. Even news reporters typically railroad through a news story quickly with little consistency in their tones. Mandarin heavily relies on context and disyllabic words. Taiwanese mandarin is especially soft and the tones difficult to hear.
If for every tone I had right, I'd get 0,5 points, then I would have 36,5/40 points. I had the first two completely wrong and three half wrong. I probably got the first two wrong because I didn't learn any Chinese today so I wasn't warmed up (Let me have this please, I need this for my ego). And the other mistakes are definitely the 2nd and 4th tone. There's no tone I'd say is especially hard for me to recognize. I have problems with all of them. Because sometimes the 2nd tone sounds like a 4th tone. Sometimes the 3rd tone soundsl ike the 2nd or 4th tone. The 1st tone is probably the easiest but today it even sounded like the 4th tone for me??? And the neutral tone is too rare to practice it well... *cries*
I like this kind of test. I did twice. first time I got 15/20. second time I got 17/20. I found three problems. 1. I had to listen twice each word to recognize tones correctly. 2. I identified second tone as the third tone. 3. first tone + third tone combination, I identified third tone as fourth tone.
12 correct, 6 half right, 2 completely wrong. Numbers 11 - 20 were nearly all correct, except for 2 half correct. So my ear got a bit better tuned as it went along. This was FUN and USEFUL! I hope you will do it again soon. Taiwan Forever!! VIRGO POWER! Thanks always!
Differentiating 2 and 3 tone is the hardest for me but I think I'm improving the first time(Dec 1st) I did the test I got 4/20 😢so i practiced more and today( Dec 04) got 12/20
I only got 5 of 20, if half credit doesn’t exist in this test, if half credit is a thing, then I got 8 of 20, which isn’t really that much better. Thanks for showing I need practice on the tones!
This was fun! I definitely got better as I went along. Got 4 wrong though. Apparently I mistake the second for the 3rd tone sometimes. Question 11 I said 33 and it was 22 😑
Yesssss that's the only mistake I kept making. I know the difference, but when the second tone is on the first character in a word, in my ears it sounds like the third sometimes.
hmmm I got 18/20, but some were from the second listen, so I don't think it counts. If you only did the first one, I probably would have been much lower. I got Q1 and Q13 wrong.
I’ve been studying Chinese on and off for years and got 20/20 so I feel pretty proud of myself. Similar to others the 2nd and 3rd tone were the ones to almost catch me up.
I missed 2, 4, 6, 15, 16, and 17 No idea how/why! 😅 2, I said 0,0 (It was 1,1.) 4, I said 1,3 (it was 1,0.) 6, I said 2,1 (It was 2,4.) 15, I said 2,4 (it was 4,2. That might’ be been straight-up dysgraphia 😂) 16, I said 3,4 (It was 2,4) 17, I said ,4 (It was 2,4) I haven’t studied in a while, so maybe I can get on track 😊
I really, really hate the tones. Not sure why I would ever even try. It's just that my futurr gf is supposed to be Chinese, so I thought that would be a great opportunity. But I just can't. - Adûnâi
OMG I KEPT GETTING IT WRONG BUT THEN I KEPT GETTING IT RIGHT IM SO HAPPY and now i get it 1 is not just flat its also soft, 2 and 4 are like pee pay sounds ...4 is almost always fast too and 3 has some raspy sound to it i needed this so much this is the first time i understand it
Hi Grace, it is said that when speaking Mandarin one should use the front of the throat, so can you do a video on how foreigners can do it? It's really hard to find some information about it.. The videos is useful as always, thank you!
@@GraceMandarinChinese Thank you so much! It is a concept that when foreigners speak they sound really deep or heavy, while people from China speak in a lighter way. It seems it has some kind of connection to using the throat.
谢谢! 本月的我学习中国语. 已经我知一些的日本语和我读一些汉字, 但我不好知tones; 我想不久学习. 我看这video和我的tones在不好(4/20), 但我来这在未来我看, 和score⬆⬆🤞 Tones 2 and 3 are very hard!!! I get them confused often.
I think differentiating the neutral tone and the dipping tone is the hardest, because the dipping tone sounds like a "low falling tone" and so does the neutral tone (even though i pronounce the neutral tone as an low/medium tone).
This was super fun, need to include this in my routine. I got 16/20, and it seems I'm very comfortable detecting 2 followed by 4, but have a bit of trouble when distinguishing between neutral tone and third (in non-isolated contexts).
Differentiating 2nd and 3rd tone is definitely the hardest for me! I think it's specifically the 2nd tone - I almost never guess that something is a 2 when its a 3, but I constantly think 2 is a 3 😔
Something that helped me is paying attention to how high the tone rises. A 2nd tone will go high, but a 3rd tone won't.
Yesss, that's my exact problem. I keep mistaking the 2nd for a 3rd when it's at the beginning of a word, but I distinguish them in isolation or when at the end
yep, same here: 60% of my mistakes were misidentifying the 2nd tone as the 3rd, and 0% the other way around.
I do the opposite, I confuse 4 and 3 tones
You can compare it because 3rd tone is usually longer
For people who are having trouble: I don't know how many people are taught this, but you could try doing exercises where you say all the tones for a sound, like ma1 ma2 ma3 ma4. If you try this with words/tones that you're unsure of, you can usually figure it out by hearing which one matches the word/tone you're trying to identify.
Of course, such exercise will not help, just like practicing the yoyo Chinese chart for hours. The only way to master tones is by listening to Chinese, podcasts, short stories, and watching movies. This is a very long process that may take even years. In the presented recording, the teacher reads slowly for the first time and then very slowly. How does this compare to a normal conversation where Chinese people speak at a natural speed and also quickly, where they speak full sentences and not single words in slow motion? The worst thing a person starting out can do is pay too much attention to the tones and try to master them as a separate branch, it doesn't work like that. Pronunciation, of course, is very important, as are tones, I'm not saying they can be ignored. You have to keep them at the back of your mind, but the most important thing is learning the characters, reading and listening, and being exposed to the Chinese language. Otherwise, frustration will increase and bad thoughts will arise: 'maybe I don't have the right hearing', 'maybe I'll never master the tones', 'maybe the Chinese language is too difficult for me'? Therefore, I highly recommend not to be too hard on yourself, and avoid testing your knowledge of tones, as it may have a negative effect. Trust the learning process and systematicity, and the results will come. I am writing this as a person who has been learning Chinese almost every day for over 2 years. I see a huge improvement in my pronunciation and tones, but I also remember my first steps and big problems in distinguishing tones. Lots of people have learned Chinese, and you can too. 加油！
@@Soreto23 The characters do not need to be learned. Just go with pin yin will do. The most important is learning conversational Mandarin.
I nailed nearly all of the ones without the neutral tone. The neutral tone is definitely the hardest for me
To me it sounds like the low tone, but difference is that the neutral tone is shorter
@lunarSkys As a native English speaker, I think neutral tone acts a bit like the "'ve" in "would've" or "should've". It's quick, loose, and doesn't need a pitch. Take 哥哥 for instance, which sounds like gē guh, just a minimal puff of air. All neutral tones sound sort of like an echo of the immediately previous tone.
To me it's kinda easy to hear the neutral tone but I sometimes mistake the second tone for the third
The good thing is that most of the neutral characters are either final particles, repetitions or, 着/子
I am really struggling with tones but this video is so helpful for me. Thanks
Thanks for this video! I'm so happy I got them all right
👍🏼
I got 20 numbers all wrong 😂
I got 2/20 😢
I got 3 wrong🙁or 3 half-wrong if it can count like that. They were #4, #9 and #19, which were all either 1,0 or 1,3. I think the 2,0 pair is easier to distinguish, but the neutral tones in the 1,0 and 1,3 pairs sound like a similar low pitch to me. I wasn’t sure which ones were short enough lol
This was fun though. Since all my mistakes were similar tone pairs, it definitely showed me what I need to pay more attention to. Thanks always!
Ni hao Ni hao ma Grace! I’ve stared watching your videos about a week now and I have to say that your videos are good for me to learn Chinese. The way you explain it it’s very easy, simple and straight to the point. Best at teaching Chinese. And your English is good. Keep it up ✌🏽
I always get confused between second and third tone. But when you were speaking in fast manner I don't have problem recognising them.
I got 6 of them wrong and 4 of them were a 2nd tone that I thought was a 3rd. But after listening to it like this I realized that the 3rd tone is a lot lower, while the 2nd tone goes higher at the end. So I'll pay more attention to it in the future!
I got #3, 4, 8, 9, 15, & 19 half wrong.
I was taught that 3rd tone falls then rises but I definitely didn't hear that here. It sounds much more like mid-falling and I picked that up quick after #3. If only I had continued to consistently apply that thought, I would have got #8 & #15 right.
#4 sounded like 3rd tone because of what I had just learned, but it was no tone. Then guess I overcorrected for that, because the other 2 mistakes were in the opposite direction.
I got 20, and because you pronounce them twice and slowly,
in my ear 1st tone and 4th tone are similar and a little tricky to distinguish
9 completely correct
8 one of two correct
3 both wrong
Most problematic was the 24 pair for me as I always think 3 is the first one, so I should work on distinguishing 2 and 3 more
I found the 4th tone hard to distinguish, 20 phrases with two tones each is 40 tone in total to recognise out of which I did 36 with a breeze. Feeling proud of myself hahaha
2 and 4 are the hardest for me to distinguish! 16/20
got 12 out of 20. The 4th tone is the hardest for me. I can't distinguish it from the 3rd tone sometimes.
I got 14/20. Very attractive challenge
No one seems to struggle between the 1st tone and 4th tone except me. For example, In "zaizang", when it is spoken quickly, it sounds like two 4th tones to me.
8/20. Oh, I shall practice for another two hours.
Update I’m getting 17/20 now. I’ve put a lot of work in the last 2 weeks. My friend said “I can’t believe you actually can do it”
¿Y desde hace cuánto hace que estás estudiando los tonos?
19/20❤🎉🎉 I got a bit difficult in one....
For some reason I had a hard time guessing the neutral tone and confused it with pretty much every other tone
For me the tones aren't that difficult but the slight differences between sounds like q,j,zh.
I got the first one right, but then second guessed it :(
The mistakes I made were:
1: 1-4, should be 2-4 (2→1)
6: 3-4, should be 2-4 (2→3)
9: 1-4, should be 1-3 (3→4)
19: 2-3, should be 1-3 (1→2)
Well, there doesn't seem to be a lot of logic behind my mistakes. I guess there's no quick fix, I'll need to get better at hearing in general, lol.
Thank you, this is a great way to practice :)
I've been practicing the tones a lot. I got 19/20
I got 15/20 but 5 false answers are only 1 of them :) For me, the difficult part is the 1 and 2 tone. I think it's because at the end I hear the same tone (high tone) so really have to hear from the beginning of the tone to the final tone in focus mode
13 correct, 7 half-correct
Don't feel bad about your score.. you'll get better if you'll keep practicing.
I got 30 btw
Got 13 right which is definitely a lot more than I anticipated, but also, could never distinguish them in conversation, just when it's spoken really clearly...
I have most problems with the 3rd tone, it always sounds like either the 2nd or 4th somehow to me
I got 12 right. It's weird , I have difficulty with the 2nd and 4th even though they are opposites. I can never tell which one is the neutral tone. The first is pretty easy usually and the 3rd can be easy too because the vocal fry, creaky voice gives it way. I have trouble producing creaky voice a lot of times, so I don't know how I'll be able to do that 3rd tone.
I got 14 correct. 4th tone was harder
Edit: I gave it again and got 15
Got 15/20, I'm mainly having issues with identifying the falling tone
got 4.5/9
31/40 if your counting individual characters and 12/20 for the ones I got fully right. Trying to tell the difference between tones 2 and 3 is the hardest for me and where I messed up the most.
这个方式真的很棒啊
多谢
The most difficult to distinguish is 1st and 4th tone.
16/20 🥰
14 out of 20. Thank you
13这个“谘询”，现在“谘”这个字已经基本废弃，这个词直接写作“咨询”
20题里居然没有第三声连读？比如“女子”(nv3, zi3)，读时前3变2，读作(nv2, zi3)，这个恐怕能搞懵不少人
I didn’t count but it was about 50/50, maybe slightly above because I get 1st and neutral right at least. Otherwise I’m completely abysmal at this and pretty much always have been (I was also terrible in music class). 2&3 in particular are basically a toss up for me.
9/20 the 3rd tone sounds more like the 2nd tone and vice-versa
16/20
I kept thinking there were tones for the neutral tone parts and thought the 2nd tone was the 3rd tone for some of them.
I'm purposely using the wrong tone. You don't want to know what I said. I'm happy enough just knowing some Chinese at all. duo xie.
We really got hit with the "inflation" and "gas prices surge" at the end.
Thanks for the video, I've been looking for some more practice on differentiating tones recently so this was just what I needed :)
i got 5 wrong. i have trouble distinguishing between the 3rd and 4th tones at some points
20/20
很有用，谢谢老师🥰
Dear Grace,
One quick question. If someone pronounces 不是 as bu4 shi4 instead of bu2 shi4 due to tone change, would a native speaker like yourself understand? Or, confusing.
I am proficient in american english, Cantonese, and shanghainese. Mapping 九聲六調 to 四聲 has been somewhat tricky.
Many thanks and keep up the excellent work. Enjoy your Midwest stay!!
@@ms-st8ub it's my comment not Grace's😅😅
@@向日葵-g8k sorry, pressed the wrong key...just hope Grace would see it nevertheless..many thanks for letting me know...
@@ms-st8ub I hope too
13/20
想不到我猜测的很好40个字我我只错了三个字的声调！真突然
Weirdly enough, I can hear the third and first, but second fourth and natural impossible.
15/20, all 5 I missed involved 3rd tone. :/
How do i differentia 0 and 3 damn!!!!! Im biting my lips!!
9/20
2024.September.24: 3/20
Second tone js very hard
The most important thing that I've noticed in the comments is that there are a lot of people, including me, who sometimes misrecognize the third tone as the second. I think that subject is worth a video.
Thanks for making this video ❤️
16/20 🥰
On March 10th I got 9/20 a month later I got 16/20!!! I think it’s a good signal. I’m really loving the process of learning this language!!
Ok so ots my second day of learning (I have been learning tones for a few months though) and I got 15/20! I hope to are still learning chinese and having fun doing so! Good luck with learning!
Nice! You probably can get 20/20 now!!
Which tone do you find the hardest to distinguish?
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The complete answers for today’s challenge (including Pinyin and Zhuyin):
gracemandarinchinese.com/chinese-tone-challenge/
The second tone stays tricky for me 🥺
@@LiQiuNL Yeah the second tone is a hard one! Many people mix up the second tone and the third tone because they both start with a low pitch
@@GraceMandarinChinese In the context of a sentence, I do struggle to hear the difference between 2 and 3.
I mean, I sometimes mistake the 2nd tone for the 3rd tone, but not the other way around.
Second drives me nuts, it’s both hard to catch and hard to say properly. Or maybe I’m saying third too much like second… idk cause I can’t make my voice go that deep for third without it getting swallowed and then it’s just a mumble
The second tone is the most difficult one for me as well
OUCH! 3/20 or 20/40. I'll definitely be spending more time on this video and any others like it that I can find. I wonder if there is an Anki deck for this kind of practice. THANK YOU, Grace! I needed to know how much practice I needed. This showed me.
thank you so much for the test ! its very interesting, easy to follow and helpful ! for me is that i easily get 1st and 3rd tones but mess up 2nd and 4th tones often xD i think the 4th tone is the most hardest for me cause i make mistakes with it almsot everytime, but that makes me want to practice with it more ! thank you so much again !
I did very bad, but when listening to Chinese if they say some of the few words or phrases im quite familiar with I can understand it but for sure can't tell the tones even in those decreasingly rare moments.
20/20. but when the cases of 3 and 4, 2 and 4 were rapidly pronounced, it was the hardest to recognize for foreigner. I reckon in that cases, it is recommend to get familiar with context of dialogue.
3 in front of 4 is pronounced as 2
I have difficulty with hearing the tones. I scored 6/20 on the test. I find the 2nd tone hardest.
I got 3/20 for getting both characters right and 15/40 for singles characters. I find this test fascinating for learning the tones. Thanks for making it!
My results are kinda chaotic 😅
But I learn Chinese only for a month now, so I guess it's not that bad?
1. 2 ,4 (I heard 2, 1)
2. 1,1 (I heard 1,1)
3. 3,4 (I heard 3,4)
4. 1,0 (I heard 1,3)
5. 2,4 (I heard 2,4)
6. 2,4 (I heard 3,4)
7. 3,2 (I heard 3,2)
8. 2,2 (I heard 1,1)
9. 1,3 (I heard 1,3)
10. 3,4 (I heard 3,2)
11. 2,2 (I heard 2,2)
12. 3,1 (I heard 3,1)
13. 1,2 (I heard 1,3)
14. 1,1 (I heard 2,1)
15. 4,2 (I heard 2,3)
16. 2,4 (I heard 3,4)
17. 2,4 (I heard 3,4)
18. 2,0 (I heard 2,0)
19. 1,3 (I heard 1,3)
20. 3,4 (I heard 3,4)
I really love these challenges to test myself. I think there are too few out there, so thank you very much :)
I had two wrong and I already expected it but both were the third tone. I still struggle with this one 😔
But again thank you very much. Maybe you could make it harder and form sentences where we need to listen to the tone in order to get the correct translation or meaning? 🤔
So it’s not just listening but implementing at the same time. Like we’d have to do in real life situations?
I don’t know if that would be too hard to do or not enough people would be interested in that but I think I’d be a good challenge 😅
Thanks again and have a nice day 😊
This was so useful, thank you so much ! I did a score of 14/20 : I still need to work on the 5th tone, the 2nd and the 3rd.
I got all of them right except for number 9, in which I mistook the 3rd for the 2nd tone. I think it helped my score that you repeated slowly afterwards lol
Strangely I'm having most trouble differentiating 2 from 4
The importance of tones is rather exaggerated in mandarin Chinese. Any given street corner you will find dozens of people speaking the same words with different tones. Very few follow the standard tones taught in schools naturally unless you are some announcer on television. Even news reporters typically railroad through a news story quickly with little consistency in their tones. Mandarin heavily relies on context and disyllabic words. Taiwanese mandarin is especially soft and the tones difficult to hear.
always seems odd and bad to have so much reliance on context, but perhaps that's just my English brain thinking.
If for every tone I had right, I'd get 0,5 points, then I would have 36,5/40 points. I had the first two completely wrong and three half wrong. I probably got the first two wrong because I didn't learn any Chinese today so I wasn't warmed up (Let me have this please, I need this for my ego). And the other mistakes are definitely the 2nd and 4th tone. There's no tone I'd say is especially hard for me to recognize. I have problems with all of them. Because sometimes the 2nd tone sounds like a 4th tone. Sometimes the 3rd tone soundsl ike the 2nd or 4th tone. The 1st tone is probably the easiest but today it even sounded like the 4th tone for me??? And the neutral tone is too rare to practice it well... *cries*
I like this kind of test. I did twice. first time I got 15/20. second time I got 17/20. I found three problems. 1. I had to listen twice each word to recognize tones correctly. 2. I identified second tone as the third tone. 3. first tone + third tone combination, I identified third tone as fourth tone.
I only got 7/20 ☹️ for real I need to work on the 2nd/3rd tones asap. I always think it's one, but it's the other one. 😞
19/20. I struggle with distinguishing the 4th and 3rd tones, but only when they appear in the middle of a sentence
12 correct, 6 half right, 2 completely wrong.
Numbers 11 - 20 were nearly all correct, except for 2 half correct. So my ear got a bit better tuned as it went along.
This was FUN and USEFUL! I hope you will do it again soon.
Taiwan Forever!! VIRGO POWER!
Thanks always!
I’m glad you liked it!! 🥳
@@GraceMandarinChinese 😸👍
Differentiating 2 and 3 tone is the hardest for me but I think I'm improving the first time(Dec 1st) I did the test I got 4/20 😢so i practiced more and today( Dec 04) got 12/20
I got 8 😢 I have a listening exam very soon
I consistently mix up my second and fourth tone
你教的很详细，形式也很好，加油！
I only got 5 of 20, if half credit doesn’t exist in this test, if half credit is a thing, then I got 8 of 20, which isn’t really that much better. Thanks for showing I need practice on the tones!
This was fun! I definitely got better as I went along. Got 4 wrong though. Apparently I mistake the second for the 3rd tone sometimes. Question 11 I said 33 and it was 22 😑
Is it cheating if you consider that before a 3rd tone, you can't have another? So 3-3 would actually sound like 2-3 (by the tone sandhi rules).
@@frechjo oh I didn't even think of that! I guess it's not cheating, it's just playing smart 🤣
I got 18 out of 20 correct (technically 38 out of 40). I mistook the 2nd tone for the 3rd tone twice.
Easy I’m already Chinese bruh
Score 18/20. I get confused between 2nd and 3rd tone, sometimes I can't even hear the low pitch from the 3rd tone.
Yesssss that's the only mistake I kept making. I know the difference, but when the second tone is on the first character in a word, in my ears it sounds like the third sometimes.
I sucessfully got 2 right :)
Scored 20/20 as an HSK5 student :)
很有用 ! 谢谢老师 !
My only mistake was the third tone in the 7th word
Thanks for letting me know!
hmmm I got 18/20, but some were from the second listen, so I don't think it counts. If you only did the first one, I probably would have been much lower.
I got Q1 and Q13 wrong.
I’ve been studying Chinese on and off for years and got 20/20 so I feel pretty proud of myself. Similar to others the 2nd and 3rd tone were the ones to almost catch me up.
I knew that my Chinese tones were bad but if I only count complete words as correct then I had only 4 correct answers. It's beyond hopeless.
I missed 2, 4, 6, 15, 16, and 17
No idea how/why! 😅
2, I said 0,0 (It was 1,1.)
4, I said 1,3 (it was 1,0.)
6, I said 2,1 (It was 2,4.)
15, I said 2,4 (it was 4,2. That might’ be been straight-up dysgraphia 😂)
16, I said 3,4 (It was 2,4)
17, I said ,4 (It was 2,4)
I haven’t studied in a while, so maybe I can get on track 😊
7/20 with 16/20 half correct.
As others have mentioned, i have difficulty with 2nd and 3rd
Such an awesome video for improving tone pronunciation and comprehension!!
I really, really hate the tones. Not sure why I would ever even try. It's just that my futurr gf is supposed to be Chinese, so I thought that would be a great opportunity. But I just can't.
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OMG I KEPT GETTING IT WRONG BUT THEN I KEPT GETTING IT RIGHT IM SO HAPPY
and now i get it 1 is not just flat its also soft, 2 and 4 are like pee pay sounds ...4 is almost always fast too and 3 has some raspy sound to it
i needed this so much this is the first time i understand it
Hi Grace, it is said that when speaking Mandarin one should use the front of the throat, so can you do a video on how foreigners can do it? It's really hard to find some information about it..
The videos is useful as always, thank you!
I’m not exactly sure what they mean by using the front of the throat, but I’ll look into it:) Thanks for the suggestion!
@@GraceMandarinChinese Thank you so much!
It is a concept that when foreigners speak they sound really deep or heavy, while people from China speak in a lighter way. It seems it has some kind of connection to using the throat.
谢谢! 本月的我学习中国语. 已经我知一些的日本语和我读一些汉字, 但我不好知tones; 我想不久学习. 我看这video和我的tones在不好(4/20), 但我来这在未来我看, 和score⬆⬆🤞
Tones 2 and 3 are very hard!!! I get them confused often.
I think differentiating the neutral tone and the dipping tone is the hardest, because the dipping tone sounds like a "low falling tone" and so does the neutral tone (even though i pronounce the neutral tone as an low/medium tone).
Do not listen to this kind of tonal video. She did not pronounce accurately too. This will just make beginners frustrated.
This was super fun, need to include this in my routine. I got 16/20, and it seems I'm very comfortable detecting 2 followed by 4, but have a bit of trouble when distinguishing between neutral tone and third (in non-isolated contexts).
I got 17/20 and mostly made a mistake differentiating 3rd with 0 lol I had fun ~