Conditions in the Southern Ocean on Feb 3rd 2017 were at gale force. Having seen around 15 knots of boat speed down the sides of waves, it was time to deploy the series drogue.
Awesome! Love this! This video will save lives! Great to see the drogue in action. Looks like it did its job slowing down and stabilize the boat a fair bit
In hindsight, what can you do to prevent the windvane paddle getting caught in the drogue bridle? I have a Windpilot and with this windvane you can bring the paddle up out of the water and pointing upwards fairly simply, so I would expect doing this prior to deploying the drogue would prevent it getting fouled and the way to go ... not sure whether or not you can do this with the Fleming.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, that's exactly what I should have done...I have had a Windpiolot on another boat. They are similar. I should have lifted the Fleming paddle before deploying the drogue. It seems so obvious in hindsight and I kick myself on a daily basis for it not being so obvious at the time!!
Can you explain need for wind vane steering after drogue set. Isn't your steering fully controlled by drogue after it's deployed, that is, stern will be held square to the following seas?
Safe Sailing ...you are right. No need to have the windvane engaged. I had disconnected the control lines to the windvane but should have raised the paddle and got the whole thing out of the way:) you can do this with the Fleming vane...not really with the Aries or some of the other vanes.
Shane Freeman--After posting viewed more of your vids plus post on GGR. Devastated to read about need to abandon your vessel. Hoping that the spirit that propelled you to prepare for race propels you past this calamity and thru to the other side. Godspeed.
I was curious about the drogue, I'm only assuming you would shorten the sail to combat this, but as you sailing with the equivalent of a parking brake on, does this add stress to the mast? It's possibly a stupid question, but I've not actually ever sailed as yet, so I'm allowed to ask stupid questions.
I'd say there is more stress to the boat in general where the drogue bridle is attached than the mast. I've seen some bloody oversized bracket plates used just for the drogue attachment points.
Thanks for vid Shane. Which I’d seen it before I deployed my JSD singlehanded! I also did a video but didn’t record the actual deployment as it was in the darkness and all a bit frantic. Anyway here’s the video if your interested. You’ll notice a lanyard I put on to try and stop the bridle going under my hydrovane rudder. ruclips.net/video/hwb4dqB6a48/видео.html
agree with you, and the video shows all the risks of deploying 100m line and 12kg chain dragging the boat, new plaining hull can probably accelerate more and this become old fashion, however i think in that situation the skipper did a great job, and seems the situation with the drougue has improved a lot
One question. Can you not deploy the drogue from the bow. Thinking it would give you a better ride and away from your wind vane? Plus keep your stern from getting swamped. Or would it been unsafe?
Thanks Hugh for the interest. The drogue isnt really designed to be deployed as a sea anchor(off the bow). Probably could use it at a pinch if I had to, however I was wanting to continue to put miles under the keel (which the drogue enables...and brings control to a boat at risk of being pitch poled or rolled, because of excess speed down wave fronts). Really, I should have raised the windvane paddle before deploying the drogue...and got it out of harms way :)
did you ever really think ! Sahara dessert ! waves of sand , no muss no fuss , your on a boat in the ocean , away from all the contennents , expecting what exactly ? tidings of comfort an joy .but don't go near the water ! c ya
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Never sailed a day in my life but i like being alone. This looks very peaceful.
A very good practical video and no flashy stuff. Just plain hard sailing.
Awesome! Love this! This video will save lives! Great to see the drogue in action. Looks like it did its job slowing down and stabilize the boat a fair bit
Thankyou Shane. Keep up the great work. Very helpful.
Fabulous video... good audio as well! I was surprised considering the conditions!
15 days later he was knocked down, dismasted, had to scuttle the boat and was rescued at sea. Unbelievable
Thanks for uploading this.
Great footage given the circumstances. Retrieval of a JSD is why I am not sure if I want one yet. Thanks for sharing. Andy UK
Awesome Video!!!
Great video
Never deploy any drogue weight first (power mode). Always bridle first to flake out safely.
Hi. Did you set some sheet to tiller selfsteering after WV failed?
Thanks for the very useful video.
Fair winds and
Good luck!
great video
Very brave 💪
good video and glad to see camera on boat and seas instead of helmsman
Man, if you get caught on that line when you are feeding it out, you are going swimming and with a tether.
TroyaE117 yup..requires a lot of care and is a hazardous activity even with care!!
In hindsight, what can you do to prevent the windvane paddle getting caught in the drogue bridle? I have a Windpilot and with this windvane you can bring the paddle up out of the water and pointing upwards fairly simply, so I would expect doing this prior to deploying the drogue would prevent it getting fouled and the way to go ... not sure whether or not you can do this with the Fleming.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, that's exactly what I should have done...I have had a Windpiolot on another boat. They are similar. I should have lifted the Fleming paddle before deploying the drogue. It seems so obvious in hindsight and I kick myself on a daily basis for it not being so obvious at the time!!
Just watching your Part 2 and I see you address this in the second vid. Excellent vids btw.
thank you for sharing this real at sea test video was extremely educational and useful. god bless u man
Hi. Do you do some sort of sail training?
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Can you explain need for wind vane steering after drogue set. Isn't your steering fully controlled by drogue after it's deployed, that is, stern will be held square to the following seas?
Safe Sailing ...you are right. No need to have the windvane engaged. I had disconnected the control lines to the windvane but should have raised the paddle and got the whole thing out of the way:) you can do this with the Fleming vane...not really with the Aries or some of the other vanes.
Shane Freeman--After posting viewed more of your vids plus post on GGR. Devastated to read about need to abandon your vessel. Hoping that the spirit that propelled you to prepare for race propels you past this calamity and thru to the other side. Godspeed.
Safe Sailing what happened to his boat mate?
@@shanefreeman8036 No 5 aries you can but it is very clunky when you go about doing it.
I was curious about the drogue,
I'm only assuming you would shorten the sail to combat this, but as you sailing with the equivalent of a parking brake on, does this add stress to the mast? It's possibly a stupid question, but I've not actually ever sailed as yet, so I'm allowed to ask stupid questions.
I'd say there is more stress to the boat in general where the drogue bridle is attached than the mast. I've seen some bloody oversized bracket plates used just for the drogue attachment points.
Thanks for vid Shane. Which I’d seen it before I deployed my JSD singlehanded! I also did a video but didn’t record the actual deployment as it was in the darkness and all a bit frantic. Anyway here’s the video if your interested. You’ll notice a lanyard I put on to try and stop the bridle going under my hydrovane rudder.
ruclips.net/video/hwb4dqB6a48/видео.html
1k sub nice:)
I knew that drogue was gonna be a problem. Way too complicated
agree with you, and the video shows all the risks of deploying 100m line and 12kg chain dragging the boat, new plaining hull can probably accelerate more and this become old fashion, however i think in that situation the skipper did a great job, and seems the situation with the drougue has improved a lot
One question. Can you not deploy the drogue from the bow. Thinking it would give you a better ride and away from your wind vane? Plus keep your stern from getting swamped. Or would it been unsafe?
Thanks Hugh for the interest. The drogue isnt really designed to be deployed as a sea anchor(off the bow). Probably could use it at a pinch if I had to, however I was wanting to continue to put miles under the keel (which the drogue enables...and brings control to a boat at risk of being pitch poled or rolled, because of excess speed down wave fronts). Really, I should have raised the windvane paddle before deploying the drogue...and got it out of harms way :)
Don’t get me wrong here, but your opening frame on this RUclips makes you look a little like Kermit the frog😅
did you ever really think ! Sahara dessert ! waves of sand , no muss no fuss , your on a boat in the ocean , away from all the contennents , expecting what exactly ? tidings of comfort an joy .but don't go near the water ! c ya