Very good information. Programming the charge timer is essential to protect the health and prolong the life of the battery. Lithium batteries do not like to sit at full charge for long periods of time (they last the longest when they are kept between 40 and 60 percent most of the time), so it's best to schedule it to charge so it reaches full just before you will leave for work. On a side note, a lot of people who own these Prime vehicles think it's OK to never use the gas engine, but that is not true. You MUST use the gas engine in these vehicles on a regular basis to keep it in good working condition and to keep the fuel in the tank from getting stale, which can happen in less than 3 months. If the fuel in the tank begins to gel and that gets into your fuel injection system, it is NOT covered under warranty and will cost $1000s to repair. Toyota actually warns about this in the owners manual. Just because the Prime has good EV range doesn't mean you can never use the hybrid system.
Thanks for the feedback! I would have to disagree on the usage of the hybrid mode. It's totally fine to run the whole year in EV if you wish to do so but you have to take precautions. For example, I only put gas without ethanol so it doesn't go stale and lasts longer without humidity/water getting pulled in. Ethanol is also high corossive. Toyota engineered the vehicle in such way that if the engine hasn't run for a long time, it forces it to do so. Overall, the car was well designed for us not to think about these details but I agree with your reasoning for those who use gas with ethanol that it can become an issue on the long run.
I also use non ethanol fuel to avoid the hassles of stale 10% ethanol fuel going bad after 6+ months. If you are going for records you will probably want to also use a fuel stabilizer to be safe. The charging schedule is something that many overlook on keeping good battery health. I set a daily schedule so that it only starts charging so that it will be at 100% just before my departure time. When I went on a 2 week vacation I intentionally left the battery charged to around 50% as that is where the Lithium Ion batteries are the most stabile. I would look at setting a schedule for your charging so that if you are leaving the house at 7:30 am it will start charging at around 5:00 am and not leave the car at 100% for 10+ hours. You can always override the schedule and select "charge now" from the steering wheel controls if you need to do a fast charge outside of the normal schedule to run more errands after work if needed.
This was a helpful video. I love the fact your Prime is dirty! LOL so many things we see on RUclips is so polished not how actual life is. Your dialog was to the point as well love that.
Based off your video, I bought the Grizzl-E. I can attest the same. With the battery depleted, it will do a full charge in less than 2.5 hours. Mine has to be the XSE with 6.6kwh on-board system because that's the way it is in the U.S. Just the same, regardless of what the computer says for charge time, it will always charge full in less than 2.5hours.
Thanks for watching Erik, hope you like your charger. FYI, Grizzl-e will be offering upgrades for wifi if you bought a classic charger vs their smart one. They have an upgrade form on their website right now.
I just want to point out the 60 amp breaker should be reduced to match the maximum ratings of the receptacle & Grizzl-e wall charger....just check the charger's manual or nameplate will show maximum overcurrent protection.Your 240 volt receptacle is only rated for 50 amps max....Also you can always put the 60 amp breaker back in if you choose later to to install a larger fast charger for a different car.Another point I have is to install the 240 volt wiring in an approved conduit as the type of cable used can't be installed less than 1.5m from the floor...Sorry for the critique but I'm an electrical inspector on the west coast & felt an obligation to enlighten you on some do's & don't's in the trade.
Thanks for the feedback. 😁 It was done by a master electrician here in Québec so I'm surprised this is not up to code. Im going to put a conduit because that's what I would have done and I think it's safer to avoid the cable being damaged . As for the breaker, he didn't have a 50A so he ended up putting a 60A, I'm also looking into changing it. Once again, thanks for watching and for the feedback 🙏🏽👍🏽
@@EVDudeHe's got a point. Again, I'm surprised your Master Electrician didn't use conduit. It's pretty obvious he wasn't aware of the specifications for the charger/car/battery. Yes, thicker wires and high amps will flow more electricity but it's not recommended if your EV system is rated for that. Lithium Ion batteries don't like to be super charged if they're not designed for it since its life cycles will get reduced.
I like everything you have done and I thank you for the video. My only suggestion would be to enclose the #6 wire (from the main panel to the charger) in a plastic or metal conduit. It's easy to do, inexpensive and will protect the cable in future from the inadvertent or unsafe actions of all owners.
Thanks for watching and you're absolutely right, thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to look into securing that romex cable with some metal conduit 👍🏽😁
Thanks for posting this video. I ordered my Grizzl-e today. I am still miffed the same charger costs Canadians $60 (in Cdn $) more than Americans pay when the charger cost is converted to Canadian dollars. Glad you made the point about the level one charger not keeping up with the heater demand. I discovered that too.
Unfortunately yes, cheaper for US customers but still one of the cheapest, well built Canadian chargers out there. Did you get the Wi-Fi version or regular one?
@@EVDude Ordered the regular one. The upside is I am fairly confident this Canadian-made charger will meet Canadian safety standards. I was looking at the Mustart travel charger but the company confirmed in an email it doesn't have CSA approval.Given that the charger that comes with the RAV4 is capable of handling 240 volts are you conquering a video on making an adapter? Would an adapter affect Toyota's warranty? Would it meet Canadian electrical code? Would the wire and plug on the Toyota charging cable be able to handle 240 volts? As you noted in your video that end is replaced with a different end in countries with 240 volt current. There's a possibility the gauge of the wire and male plug on our chargers' can only handle 120 volts as that's the current it's meant to be plugged into. Lots to consider. When I saw a drawing of the Toyota charger before buying a Prime it looked like the end could be swapped out. I was hoping it would come with a 240 volt as well as a 120 holy, but no such luck.
Thank you, always very informative. I will probably get the Grizzle L2 charging cable too as it provides most value. Flo charger cables bit too expensive what they offer (or what I need == simple fast L2 charging).
It'll depend on where you live and the rates charged by your utility company but for myself (in Québec, Canada) my bill has gone up by approximately 25-30$ CAD/month.
@@rajsingh9156 level 2 chargers are usually 30, 32, 48 or 50A. The question you should be asking is, are you getting a level 2 charger just for your Rav4 Prime or do you want to future proof your installation for your future needs as running wire from the panel and hiring a electrician to do so could be expensive. My suggestion is to future proof your installation for an eventual EV usage with 48A and 6AWG wire.
@EVDude yes I'm getting it only for my Rav 4 plug in Hybrid. I will be selling my home in 2 years so will just have to eat that electrician cost twice. However I will keep you suggestion in mind when I move to my new home in 2 years. I got the Grizzl-E Classic, Level 2 240V/40A Electric Vehicle Charger and is the 14-50 model. Is this a good one? And I guess this 40 Amp should charge my RAV 4 PLUG IN in 2.5 hours, Right? And is it true that even if i get 50 or 60 Amp charger, since the Rav 4 plug in can only take max of 32 Amps, then it means that even with a higher Amp like 50 or 60, the charge time will still be 2.5 hours? Thanks once again for all your assistance. Your videos are simple and very real and your advice is very genuine. Regards
@rajsingh9156 In that case, you're making the right decision. Don't waste money if you're going to move. The Grizzle is a great charger and you don't need more than 40A. As you mentioned, the on-board charger for the car is 6.6kW but it can actually go till 7.2kW so that's 240V @32 A. Since voltage is pushed and amperage is pulled by the car, the car can only pull max 32A, so even if you get a 48A charger, it won't charger faster than 32A. Thanks for your feedback.
Thank you so much , however , you didn't mention the installation cost for (Grizzl ) and how much is the monthly average cost for Hydro Quebec? commuting let say 60Km/day , thanks!
question, can you please measure how much current kWh is needed to full charge an from 0 to 18kwh battery, it is about the current losses during charging
Can you setup Amers? to 10A or 16A? for example, are you at friends and you do not know what fuse they have on sockets and want only 10A for statutory safety? I speeking on 230v Europe.
Interesting and informative video... I have not purchase my level 2 charger yet but at the moment, this is my N#1 choice :-)... Also glad that you confirm that the R4P is compatible to 220V, could be an options with an adapter . I don't often need a fast charge often but nice to have when required. I plan my charges for when I need the car so I like the feature in the vehicle. Thanks again :-)
Thanks for watching and as usual, thanks for the great feedback. Yes the Level 1 charger is compatible with 220V as long as you have a 220V outlet. You'll need to get a proper adapter that's capable of withstanding the charger level like a NEMA 6-20 to NEMA 5-15.
I bought the some chrager for good price and no fancy stuff should be arrive next week.The dip swithces pre-set as 40A. do I need to reset as 32A for the prmie ? thx
You don't need to change the dip switches as the Prime will take what it needs. Mine is set at 40A. The only time you'll have to change it is if your wiring setup couldn't handle 40A. You'll need a minimum of 8 AWG cable with a 40A breaker for the Prime. If you want to future proof your installation to maximise the Grizzl-e's potential, I'd go with a 6 AWG wiring with 50A breaker.
@@EVDude Thanks for all the detials. yes I have 50A breaker for the nema 14-50 outlet. because I was think about juicebox. but after watching your video and I give up that fancy extra features one beside they out of stock.
How much was approximately cost for 2 nd level charger and how much cost approximately did you pay someone to change the breaker to and install necessary electric components in your house/garage
The charger I have is 700$ CAD but since I live in Québec we get a subsidy of 600$, so the actual cost is roughly 150$. The installation will depend on the length of the wiring needed to your breaker, it varies between 500-700$ CAD.
Great video! I also have a RAV4 Prime . I use a Mustart Travelmaster Level 2 charger. It has interchangeable plugs, so you can charge at 15/25/32A. It also works on standard 110 voltage if you can’t find 220v power. Will you be doing a video on the ChargeHold button? I find that it’s a waste of gasoline and not useful at all.
Hey Nick thanks for watching. I am 100% certain it comes with a 6.6 kw onboard charger. We have many folks in our Quebec group who have the vehicle and you can check Toyota's website where they confirm it too in the specs 😉
@@EVDude Thanks for your videos! I wasn’t sure what size my onboard charger was but have checked the specs at Toyota.ca and now see that all of the Canadian Primes come with the 6.6kw onboard charger. The level 2 charger I bought is limited to 16Amps @ 240V so it takes 4.5 hours to charge my battery from Zero EV range to 100%. Not bad but 2.5 hours would be better. I’ll maybe upgrade to one like yours in the future. Anyway, keep the videos coming! They’re very informative!
You can charge the vehicle everyday at 100%, it has been designed for that. But if you prefer, you can schedule your charges to be closer to your departure times in order to keep the battery not fully charged all the time. Eg: come home with 10% battery left, plugin the charger with a charge scheduled for a departure time of 6 am. It'll maximise even more the life of the battery, not significantly though.
@@EVDude great... average 35 MPG, and fast acceleration, definitely not as good as Prime's MPG and 0-60 time. Paid $38K for a Limited, how much was yours?
Toyota uses the same charger and they swap the plug according to the country. Not only that, other Prius Prime and R4P owners have tried using an adapter (including myself) and it works.
I can't really answer that as that will depend on where you live and your cost of electricity. I live in Québec and it costs around 1.50$ for one full charge (roughly 15 kwh). As for public chargers, it will also depend where you live and the public charger providers, here in Québec there's 3 types of pricing for public chargers : Free, 1$/hour or 2.50$/session.
Thanks for watching. Yes it's totally fine to leave it plugged in but depending on your needs for charging, you can also schedule your R4P to finish charging at a certain time. For example : Departure for 6AM and it will only start charging by 4AM for example. In that case, the battery will finish charging right on time for your departure.
Hi today I got my Rav4 Prime. I am not into electrical world understanding the Amps, braker, conduit etc. I live in US, and I have this plug-in given by toyota, can I plug-in this to my wall socket and charge my car. Its 110v here. If so could you tell me is it safe and how long it would take to charge?
I think it's over 130km/h, which you will most probably never reach. Or else the gas kicks in when the weather is too cold and the heat pump cannot provide enough heat or when the battery temperature is too low due to the cold weather as well.
Great Videos! And Super handy location that breaker panel! I am curious, is the "level 1" charger that comes with it available to lug directly into a regular wall socket? Thanks!
Yes, the level 1 provided with the car plugs directly into the existing plug sockets. You would preferably have a dedicated 15A line for that socket. And yes, that panel is so handy being there. 😁
@@EVDude yes I already have a 240 volt outlet in the garage rated at 40A, I just need to buy the wall charger only, am I still eligible just for the product?
Question for you, finally getting around to getting an EV Charger. I want to get the same one as yours, a Grizzle 40 amp. I already have an unused 40 amp breaker in the panel in the garage which was suppose to be for a welder but no plug installed yet. Here is my question, should I upgrade the breaker to a 50 Amp? If so, what would be the reason for it? Thanks
I'm not an electrician but this is my understanding of how things work and from readings I've done. You always want your setup to be 80% of the maximum capacity. If you're only planning for your R4P, it doesn't need 40A, it'll use around 32A. So 40A breaker is enough with 8AWG wiring. (40 x 0.8 = 32A) But if you plan on eventually using the full capability of the Grizzl-e charger which is 40A, maybe for a new EV car, you will require a 50A breaker (50 x 0.8 = 40A). Your wiring should also be done to accomodate 50A with 6AWG wiring.
Do you think it's worth it to buy the car if we can't charge our car in a garage? I would most likely have to public charge at a station (I live in Vancouver, BC) that charges about 30 cents a minute. Thanks!
If you have the 6.6 kw onboard charger, I suggest at least 30A. As for the model, it depends where you live and if you'll be installing it indoor or outdoor.
These features on the app are only available on the XSE models where you have DCM connectivity. For preheating on the SE you can use the A/C button on the key fob.
My Grizzl-e charger is set for 40 amps but the car draws 32 amps. Do I need to change the charger to 32 amps or can I leave it at 40 amps? I presume I can leave it as the car won’t draw anymore than 32 amps.
Been watching a lot of your videos. In hindsight would say the base prime xse is still the better choice than a few thousands cheaper loaded 2021 limited rav4? Thanks
Hi thanks for watching my videos, hope you like them! As for the choice between the RAV4 Limited vs RAV4 Prime, it's not really a debate here in Quebec, here's why : RAV4 Limited costs 50,639$ vs RAV4 PRIME XSE at 49,315$ (taxes in for both). We get 13,000$ subsidy in Quebec for the purchase of the vehicle (8k from the province and 5k from federal), so I went with the R4P and also because our commute is 99% in the city so less than 70km per day. Being able to be EV all the time and using gas for long trips saves us a lot of money on the long run as well.
@@EVDude Thanks for the answer. Those limiteds are expensive there. Here it's like $38-39K for a Limited with all the packages vs the Prime XSE base is $43ish and $49 with the tech and weather packages. We get a tax credit of $7500 but that doesn't lower the purchase price (which hurts come car property tax time in Virginia). Do they just give you $13K or is it something you can apply to offset your income come tax filing season.
@@zippyeasy5808 you must in the states, ok I get it now. And yes! All these prices are in Canadian dollars. And we don't get a tax credit, the 13k subsidy is subtracted directly from the sales price, hence why it's a no brainer of a choice for us here.
They come standard set at 40A. You don't need to change it unless you're limited in your electrical panel. The car will charge at the highest speed, which is 32A for 6.6 kwh onboard chargers.
Thanks again for this informative video! Maybe a silly question - how do I know what the maximum amps my breaker box can handle? A 32A charger might be fine for the Prime but I was hoping to future-proof my purchase and get a 40A or 50A charger. Just want to be sure my breaker box can handle 50A. Thank you!
Either you have a 100 amp service or a 200 amp service in your home. I don't believe you can have two 50 amp outlets on the same line. For each 50 amp outlet, you will need a separate line from the electrical panel.
@@rashamrai8404 do you have the 3.3 or 6.6 onboard charger? So basically if an electrician comes and installs an outlet with 240V the regular charger will work with it?
My R4P barely fits on the sides hehe it's a well calculated manoeuvre when we park. I agree with you for the cable, you need to be strategic on where you will install your level 2 charger.
Great video and very informative. I searched on line and on RUclips extensively, and this was the best video, by far! Thank you.
Thank you for watching and for the feedback 😁
Very good information. Programming the charge timer is essential to protect the health and prolong the life of the battery. Lithium batteries do not like to sit at full charge for long periods of time (they last the longest when they are kept between 40 and 60 percent most of the time), so it's best to schedule it to charge so it reaches full just before you will leave for work.
On a side note, a lot of people who own these Prime vehicles think it's OK to never use the gas engine, but that is not true. You MUST use the gas engine in these vehicles on a regular basis to keep it in good working condition and to keep the fuel in the tank from getting stale, which can happen in less than 3 months. If the fuel in the tank begins to gel and that gets into your fuel injection system, it is NOT covered under warranty and will cost $1000s to repair. Toyota actually warns about this in the owners manual. Just because the Prime has good EV range doesn't mean you can never use the hybrid system.
Thanks for the feedback! I would have to disagree on the usage of the hybrid mode. It's totally fine to run the whole year in EV if you wish to do so but you have to take precautions. For example, I only put gas without ethanol so it doesn't go stale and lasts longer without humidity/water getting pulled in. Ethanol is also high corossive. Toyota engineered the vehicle in such way that if the engine hasn't run for a long time, it forces it to do so. Overall, the car was well designed for us not to think about these details but I agree with your reasoning for those who use gas with ethanol that it can become an issue on the long run.
See “Car Care Nut” channel on RUclips for a full explanation (type in both Prius & RAV 4 prime)
I also use non ethanol fuel to avoid the hassles of stale 10% ethanol fuel going bad after 6+ months. If you are going for records you will probably want to also use a fuel stabilizer to be safe. The charging schedule is something that many overlook on keeping good battery health. I set a daily schedule so that it only starts charging so that it will be at 100% just before my departure time. When I went on a 2 week vacation I intentionally left the battery charged to around 50% as that is where the Lithium Ion batteries are the most stabile. I would look at setting a schedule for your charging so that if you are leaving the house at 7:30 am it will start charging at around 5:00 am and not leave the car at 100% for 10+ hours. You can always override the schedule and select "charge now" from the steering wheel controls if you need to do a fast charge outside of the normal schedule to run more errands after work if needed.
This was a helpful video. I love the fact your Prime is dirty! LOL so many things we see on RUclips is so polished not how actual life is. Your dialog was to the point as well love that.
Thanks for watching and for your feedback, much appreciated! 😁
Based off your video, I bought the Grizzl-E. I can attest the same. With the battery depleted, it will do a full charge in less than 2.5 hours. Mine has to be the XSE with 6.6kwh on-board system because that's the way it is in the U.S. Just the same, regardless of what the computer says for charge time, it will always charge full in less than 2.5hours.
Thanks for watching Erik, hope you like your charger. FYI, Grizzl-e will be offering upgrades for wifi if you bought a classic charger vs their smart one. They have an upgrade form on their website right now.
Here in the U.S, the 2023 and newer base Se models now also come with the 6.6 kwh on board charger. :-)
I just want to point out the 60 amp breaker should be reduced to match the maximum ratings of the receptacle & Grizzl-e wall charger....just check the charger's manual or nameplate will show maximum overcurrent protection.Your 240 volt receptacle is only rated for 50 amps max....Also you can always put the 60 amp breaker back in if you choose later to to install a larger fast charger for a different car.Another point I have is to install the 240 volt wiring in an approved conduit as the type of cable used can't be installed less than 1.5m from the floor...Sorry for the critique but I'm an electrical inspector on the west coast & felt an obligation to enlighten you on some do's & don't's in the trade.
Thanks for the feedback. 😁 It was done by a master electrician here in Québec so I'm surprised this is not up to code. Im going to put a conduit because that's what I would have done and I think it's safer to avoid the cable being damaged . As for the breaker, he didn't have a 50A so he ended up putting a 60A, I'm also looking into changing it. Once again, thanks for watching and for the feedback 🙏🏽👍🏽
Why 1.5 meter from the floor?? In case of a flood??
@@EVDudeHe's got a point. Again, I'm surprised your Master Electrician didn't use conduit. It's pretty obvious he wasn't aware of the specifications for the charger/car/battery. Yes, thicker wires and high amps will flow more electricity but it's not recommended if your EV system is rated for that. Lithium Ion batteries don't like to be super charged if they're not designed for it since its life cycles will get reduced.
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I like everything you have done and I thank you for the video. My only suggestion would be to enclose the #6 wire (from the main panel to the charger) in a plastic or metal conduit. It's easy to do, inexpensive and will protect the cable in future from the inadvertent or unsafe actions of all owners.
Thanks for watching and you're absolutely right, thanks for the suggestion. I'm going to look into securing that romex cable with some metal conduit 👍🏽😁
Your videos are the best. Keep them coming!
Thank you Robert for your feedback, much appreciated!! Keeps me going with these videos 😁
Thanks for posting this video. I ordered my Grizzl-e today. I am still miffed the same charger costs Canadians $60 (in Cdn $) more than Americans pay when the charger cost is converted to Canadian dollars. Glad you made the point about the level one charger not keeping up with the heater demand. I discovered that too.
Unfortunately yes, cheaper for US customers but still one of the cheapest, well built Canadian chargers out there. Did you get the Wi-Fi version or regular one?
@@EVDude Ordered the regular one. The upside is I am fairly confident this Canadian-made charger will meet Canadian safety standards. I was looking at the Mustart travel charger but the company confirmed in an email it doesn't have CSA approval.Given that the charger that comes with the RAV4 is capable of handling 240 volts are you conquering a video on making an adapter? Would an adapter affect Toyota's warranty? Would it meet Canadian electrical code? Would the wire and plug on the Toyota charging cable be able to handle 240 volts? As you noted in your video that end is replaced with a different end in countries with 240 volt current. There's a possibility the gauge of the wire and male plug on our chargers' can only handle 120 volts as that's the current it's meant to be plugged into. Lots to consider. When I saw a drawing of the Toyota charger before buying a Prime it looked like the end could be swapped out. I was hoping it would come with a 240 volt as well as a 120 holy, but no such luck.
@@EVDude regular one.
@@allandawson2078 I wouldn't mess with this device unless the approval label states 120/240 volts.
Thank you, always very informative.
I will probably get the Grizzle L2 charging cable too as it provides most value.
Flo charger cables bit too expensive what they offer (or what I need == simple fast L2 charging).
Thanks for watching and for your feedback! Another video coming out today stay tuned 😉
That was really good. I learned some stuff
Thanks for watching
Thank you for posting this helpful video
Thanks for watching and for your feedback.
Not sure if it's a Canadian thing, but your electrician should've put those wires inside a conduit for protection. It looks neater too.
what is the effect on your electricity bill? is it a drastic or slight increase. thanks
It'll depend on where you live and the rates charged by your utility company but for myself (in Québec, Canada) my bill has gone up by approximately 25-30$ CAD/month.
What is the charge time for the OEM cable with adapter to a NEMA level 2 receptacle?
Hi great video. So should I get 40 Amp or 50 Amp level 2 charger? For my 2025 Rav 4 plug in
@@rajsingh9156 level 2 chargers are usually 30, 32, 48 or 50A. The question you should be asking is, are you getting a level 2 charger just for your Rav4 Prime or do you want to future proof your installation for your future needs as running wire from the panel and hiring a electrician to do so could be expensive. My suggestion is to future proof your installation for an eventual EV usage with 48A and 6AWG wire.
@EVDude yes I'm getting it only for my Rav 4 plug in Hybrid. I will be selling my home in 2 years so will just have to eat that electrician cost twice. However I will keep you suggestion in mind when I move to my new home in 2 years. I got the Grizzl-E Classic, Level 2 240V/40A Electric Vehicle Charger and is the 14-50 model. Is this a good one? And I guess this 40 Amp should charge my RAV 4 PLUG IN in 2.5 hours, Right?
And is it true that even if i get 50 or 60 Amp charger, since the Rav 4 plug in can only take max of 32 Amps, then it means that even with a higher Amp like 50 or 60, the charge time will still be 2.5 hours?
Thanks once again for all your assistance. Your videos are simple and very real and your advice is very genuine. Regards
@rajsingh9156 In that case, you're making the right decision. Don't waste money if you're going to move. The Grizzle is a great charger and you don't need more than 40A. As you mentioned, the on-board charger for the car is 6.6kW but it can actually go till 7.2kW so that's 240V @32 A. Since voltage is pushed and amperage is pulled by the car, the car can only pull max 32A, so even if you get a 48A charger, it won't charger faster than 32A. Thanks for your feedback.
Super nice video, thank you for your honesty
Thanks for watching! 😁
@@EVDude Hello from Maine! Bonjour🚒
Good video and have a good one from West Tennessee
Thank you for watching and taking the time to write, much appreciated!
Thank you so much , however , you didn't mention the installation cost for (Grizzl ) and how much is the monthly average cost for Hydro Quebec? commuting let say 60Km/day , thanks!
Hi thanks for watching. The installation was 600$ done by a master electrician and it costs around 40$/month for my hydro bill to charge the Prime.
@@EVDude thank you so much for your prompt response
how many kms you get with full charge?
question, can you please measure how much current kWh is needed to full charge an from 0 to 18kwh battery, it is about the current losses during charging
I've done it but didn't document through video, it's roughly 14.5 to 15 kwh.
On stock charger type1 on a label printed input 110v, but you say its same on us, Europe and other (220-240v)
Can you setup Amers? to 10A or 16A? for example, are you at friends and you do not know what fuse they have on sockets and want only 10A for statutory safety? I speeking on 230v Europe.
Yes you can, through the onboard settings.
@@TWARDOWSKY. I would estimate at around 4.5-6 hours
has ur electricity bill gone up as a part of charging, in our province bc hydro says u can have a separate meter to keep track of charging ur car
Interesting and informative video... I have not purchase my level 2 charger yet but at the moment, this is my N#1 choice :-)... Also glad that you confirm that the R4P is compatible to 220V, could be an options with an adapter . I don't often need a fast charge often but nice to have when required. I plan my charges for when I need the car so I like the feature in the vehicle. Thanks again :-)
Thanks for watching and as usual, thanks for the great feedback. Yes the Level 1 charger is compatible with 220V as long as you have a 220V outlet. You'll need to get a proper adapter that's capable of withstanding the charger level like a NEMA 6-20 to NEMA 5-15.
I bought the some chrager for good price and no fancy stuff should be arrive next week.The dip swithces pre-set as 40A. do I need to reset as 32A for the prmie ? thx
You don't need to change the dip switches as the Prime will take what it needs. Mine is set at 40A. The only time you'll have to change it is if your wiring setup couldn't handle 40A. You'll need a minimum of 8 AWG cable with a 40A breaker for the Prime. If you want to future proof your installation to maximise the Grizzl-e's potential, I'd go with a 6 AWG wiring with 50A breaker.
@@EVDude Thanks for all the detials. yes I have 50A breaker for the nema 14-50 outlet. because I was think about juicebox. but after watching your video and I give up that fancy extra features one beside they out of stock.
Wondering where you learned that the SE trim also has the 6.6 kW charger? Thanks for the info.
It's on Toyota.ca website and also through all the SE owners I talk to. Only on Canadian models.
*Can you add a 6.6kw charger to a new Rav 4/Prius at time of purchase???*
The 6.6 kwh on board charger is now available here in the U.S. on the 2023 and newer Rav4 Prime base Se models. :-)
How much was approximately cost for 2 nd level charger and how much cost approximately did you pay someone to change the breaker to and install necessary electric components in your house/garage
The charger I have is 700$ CAD but since I live in Québec we get a subsidy of 600$, so the actual cost is roughly 150$. The installation will depend on the length of the wiring needed to your breaker, it varies between 500-700$ CAD.
@@EVDude Nice!
Great video!
I also have a RAV4 Prime .
I use a Mustart Travelmaster Level 2 charger.
It has interchangeable plugs, so you can charge at 15/25/32A. It also works on standard 110 voltage if you can’t find 220v power.
Will you be doing a video on the ChargeHold button? I find that it’s a waste of gasoline and not useful at all.
Thanks for watching and yes, I'll be doing a video on all the different features of the car.
Pretty sure the Canadian SE model only has the 3.3, not the 6.6 charger @5:40. Wish it came with the 6.6 though!
Hey Nick thanks for watching. I am 100% certain it comes with a 6.6 kw onboard charger. We have many folks in our Quebec group who have the vehicle and you can check Toyota's website where they confirm it too in the specs 😉
@@EVDude Awesome news! I have been watching too many US reviews. Thanks for clarifying! I will be picking mine up on the 30th!
@@EVDude Thanks for your videos! I wasn’t sure what size my onboard charger was but have checked the specs at Toyota.ca and now see that all of the Canadian Primes come with the 6.6kw onboard charger. The level 2 charger I bought is limited to 16Amps @ 240V so it takes 4.5 hours to charge my battery from Zero EV range to 100%. Not bad but 2.5 hours would be better. I’ll maybe upgrade to one like yours in the future. Anyway, keep the videos coming! They’re very informative!
At what percentage will be ideal to charge the vehicle ?
You can charge the vehicle everyday at 100%, it has been designed for that. But if you prefer, you can schedule your charges to be closer to your departure times in order to keep the battery not fully charged all the time. Eg: come home with 10% battery left, plugin the charger with a charge scheduled for a departure time of 6 am. It'll maximise even more the life of the battery, not significantly though.
Very interesting and informative but we didn't buy a Prime, it's not available in our area so we bought a Hybrid instead...
That's great! How are you enjoying your hybrid so far?
@@EVDude great... average 35 MPG, and fast acceleration, definitely not as good as Prime's MPG and 0-60 time. Paid $38K for a Limited, how much was yours?
How do you know the regular charger can support 240V if it doesn’t say on the sticker?
Toyota uses the same charger and they swap the plug according to the country. Not only that, other Prius Prime and R4P owners have tried using an adapter (including myself) and it works.
How much do we need to pay for 1 time charge and how much we need to pay if we charge at the gas station
I can't really answer that as that will depend on where you live and your cost of electricity. I live in Québec and it costs around 1.50$ for one full charge (roughly 15 kwh). As for public chargers, it will also depend where you live and the public charger providers, here in Québec there's 3 types of pricing for public chargers : Free, 1$/hour or 2.50$/session.
Thanks for sharing. Would it be ok to leave the charger onto RAV4 Prime when the charging cycle completes? Sometimes I forget to pull out overnight.🙏
Thanks for watching. Yes it's totally fine to leave it plugged in but depending on your needs for charging, you can also schedule your R4P to finish charging at a certain time. For example : Departure for 6AM and it will only start charging by 4AM for example. In that case, the battery will finish charging right on time for your departure.
Thank you
Hi today I got my Rav4 Prime. I am not into electrical world understanding the Amps, braker, conduit etc. I live in US, and I have this plug-in given by toyota, can I plug-in this to my wall socket and charge my car. Its 110v here. If so could you tell me is it safe and how long it would take to charge?
120volt about 6.5 hours I think
Very informative.
Thanks for shring
Thanks for watching and for your feedback. 😁
Can this car be charged at a level 3 charging station
No it cannot, the RAV4 Prime doesn't have DC fast charging capabilities.
thinking about getting this, not 100% sure how the battery works, but if the car runs on battery at what km speed does the gas kick in ?
I think it's over 130km/h, which you will most probably never reach. Or else the gas kicks in when the weather is too cold and the heat pump cannot provide enough heat or when the battery temperature is too low due to the cold weather as well.
Great Videos! And Super handy location that breaker panel! I am curious, is the "level 1" charger that comes with it available to lug directly into a regular wall socket?
Thanks!
Yes, the level 1 provided with the car plugs directly into the existing plug sockets. You would preferably have a dedicated 15A line for that socket. And yes, that panel is so handy being there. 😁
@@EVDude Thanks!
Since u live in quebec like me, did u get ur 600$ rebate? Was this model included for rebate?
Yes, I did get my rebate for this model. It comes out to be very cheap with the rebate.
@@EVDude yes I already have a 240 volt outlet in the garage rated at 40A, I just need to buy the wall charger only, am I still eligible just for the product?
@@babyganga8786 You are, they simply ask for proof of installation which can be a photo of your charger installed on the wall.
Does the PRIME XSE with premium package provide a level 2 charger adapter/cable?
No it does not. It comes with a level 1 charger.
*Can you accidentally drive off, before you unplug the cable????*
There are fail safes in place to avoid this. The car doesn't turn on if you're plugged in, you'll only be able to go into "Room mode".
@@EVDude …thanks.? That’s what I would hope .
Question for you, finally getting around to getting an EV Charger. I want to get the same one as yours, a Grizzle 40 amp. I already have an unused 40 amp breaker in the panel in the garage which was suppose to be for a welder but no plug installed yet.
Here is my question, should I upgrade the breaker to a 50 Amp? If so, what would be the reason for it? Thanks
I'm not an electrician but this is my understanding of how things work and from readings I've done.
You always want your setup to be 80% of the maximum capacity.
If you're only planning for your R4P, it doesn't need 40A, it'll use around 32A. So 40A breaker is enough with 8AWG wiring. (40 x 0.8 = 32A)
But if you plan on eventually using the full capability of the Grizzl-e charger which is 40A, maybe for a new EV car, you will require a 50A breaker (50 x 0.8 = 40A). Your wiring should also be done to accomodate 50A with 6AWG wiring.
Do you think it's worth it to buy the car if we can't charge our car in a garage? I would most likely have to public charge at a station (I live in Vancouver, BC) that charges about 30 cents a minute. Thanks!
I don't understand why you had to buy to Grizzly charger. Why couldn't you simply plug the cord into a 240V outlet?
It takes much more time with 240V at 12A. A level 2 charger charges at 240V at 30A. My charge is done in 2.5 hours.
hi can you suggest which model n how Manny amp should I buy for raw 4 prime
If you have the 6.6 kw onboard charger, I suggest at least 30A. As for the model, it depends where you live and if you'll be installing it indoor or outdoor.
Level 2 charger : 6.6 kw, 2-1/2 Hours
Level 1 charger: 3.3 kw.
i dont see in the toyota app where to preheat or my battery life it is a SE (smaller on board charger) in north america. Is that just the toyota app?
These features on the app are only available on the XSE models where you have DCM connectivity. For preheating on the SE you can use the A/C button on the key fob.
@@EVDude A few of your videos already helped a lot! Thanks and keep up the good work!
@@jakeshirley764 Thank you 🙏🏽
My Grizzl-e charger is set for 40 amps but the car draws 32 amps. Do I need to change the charger to 32 amps or can I leave it at 40 amps? I presume I can leave it as the car won’t draw anymore than 32 amps.
You can leave it at 40A like I did. It's the car's onboard charger that decides how much to draw in so it's safe.
@@EVDude thanks for your reply. The Grizzl-e FAQ also says the same I discovered after posting my question.
Been watching a lot of your videos. In hindsight would say the base prime xse is still the better choice than a few thousands cheaper loaded 2021 limited rav4? Thanks
Hi thanks for watching my videos, hope you like them! As for the choice between the RAV4 Limited vs RAV4 Prime, it's not really a debate here in Quebec, here's why : RAV4 Limited costs 50,639$ vs RAV4 PRIME XSE at 49,315$ (taxes in for both). We get 13,000$ subsidy in Quebec for the purchase of the vehicle (8k from the province and 5k from federal), so I went with the R4P and also because our commute is 99% in the city so less than 70km per day. Being able to be EV all the time and using gas for long trips saves us a lot of money on the long run as well.
@@EVDude Thanks for the answer. Those limiteds are expensive there. Here it's like $38-39K for a Limited with all the packages vs the Prime XSE base is $43ish and $49 with the tech and weather packages. We get a tax credit of $7500 but that doesn't
lower the purchase price (which hurts come car property tax time in Virginia). Do they just give you $13K or is it something you can apply to offset your income come tax filing season.
@@zippyeasy5808 you must in the states, ok I get it now. And yes! All these prices are in Canadian dollars. And we don't get a tax credit, the 13k subsidy is subtracted directly from the sales price, hence why it's a no brainer of a choice for us here.
@@EVDude yeah really. Nice perk. But must balance out with some steeper taxes on other things. Thank you.
What amp did you choose when ordering Grizzle e?
They come standard set at 40A. You don't need to change it unless you're limited in your electrical panel. The car will charge at the highest speed, which is 32A for 6.6 kwh onboard chargers.
Thanks again for this informative video! Maybe a silly question - how do I know what the maximum amps my breaker box can handle? A 32A charger might be fine for the Prime but I was hoping to future-proof my purchase and get a 40A or 50A charger. Just want to be sure my breaker box can handle 50A. Thank you!
I brought in an electrician to make that assessment, I wasn't ready to play with my electric panel hehe.
That could be an issue with some of the fast chargers...extra load
Either you have a 100 amp service or a 200 amp service in your home. I don't believe you can have two 50 amp outlets on the same line. For each 50 amp outlet, you will need a separate line from the electrical panel.
What is the cost for a full charge from 10% or less? I am in Montreal area as well?
It depends where you live and your cost of electricity but for myself it's roughly 1.60$ per charge (in canadian dollars) I live in Montreal, Quebec.
@@EVDude I live on the south shore of Montreal... so probably the same as you I imagine 😁
@@EVDude thanks
@@EVDude O am waiting for the SE... ETA is next year...
Hang in there.. Sometimes there are cancellations and you might get it faster. 😉
Has anyone used the stock 120v charger on 220v, any issues?
I’m wondering the same thing
@@Torenado11 I made an adapter and it seems to work fine, charging time down to about 6 hours
@@rashamrai8404 do you have the 3.3 or 6.6 onboard charger? So basically if an electrician comes and installs an outlet with 240V the regular charger will work with it?
I think i need a bigger garage for this car and to set up the cable in a sensible manner. Lol
My R4P barely fits on the sides hehe it's a well calculated manoeuvre when we park. I agree with you for the cable, you need to be strategic on where you will install your level 2 charger.
Just a question. So for the XSE trim, you can choose a non-black roof?
I believe not. At least not in Canada. It always comes with a dual color.
My roof is black, probably with the lighting and all the dirt, it doesn't look black in the video. It really needs a good wash hehe.
@@EVDude Hi, OK thanks for the info.
That installation of the 240v is not professional done. Not up to code... no electrician would do that
Way to make me regret renting my house 😭
selfie stick please
Exposed Romex is not legal exposed and a 60 amp rated breaker with 50 amp rated wire is also illegal.