Can we talk about how underrated Hans Zimmer's score is for this movie? The theme for Superman was so powerful it gave me different emotions ranging from goosebumps, tears of sadness and joy. I vividly remember this theme playing during the credits and hearing a roar of applause in the theater. The theme is undoubtedly a theme of hope.
What makes Zod even more tragic is that he was literally bred to be in service to the preservation of Krypton. The guy was not born with the ability to choose where to put his loyalty to, or to reconsider actions that are horrific, because he was made with one true purpose that he cannot escape. He's not an individual shaped by trauma or experience; he's an individual molded from the start to only care about one thing. And it was only fitting that the person standing in his way was an individual of his own race who was born capable of choosing where his loyalty and destiny lied.
John Campea, this is a Excellent explanation of the movie "Man Of Steel". I personlly really Loved this movie "Man Of Steel". I loved how you went into detail on why Superman was the way he was & why he made the decions that he made & why. I also liked how you went into details on the making & decisions that Zack & Writer of the movie (his name escape me) they made in the making of the film. Also how you compared it to other films. No Batman in this movie that John Campea is talking about here in this video. This movie "Man Of Steel" is Henry Cavills movie.
@@baylinersimp787 see. People stop at only one sentence and they embark on the bandwagon of hatred towards him. Like are they sure if Bruce is sent to prison that wouldn't happen. They're so dumb
@@kingkiller5325 right, but the whole point of the book is that the whole thing is ironic and satirical. But the movie was not ironic or satirical in any way. So, it's like completely missing the point. The movie is built around delivering exciting sequences of badass superhero action. But that has nothing to do with the comic book. At all.
Man of Steel is a great movie, the reason why it didn't perform well is because people were comparing it to a Marvel movie, which you shouldn't do, it's like comparing oil to water, they are not the same.
DC stays true to the characters. You have characters like Batman and Superman on one side which have a more dark and serious tone to them with Wonder Woman somewhere in between and then on the other hand you have light hearted characters like Shazam and The Flash and to a certain extent Aquaman.
This exactly why I prefer DC. Because they actually make you think about how these heroes and villains have repercussions in the real world. The film was a complete package and an epic journey from start to finish. I love the graphic novels used, the properly executed punchlines, and the background of the characters introduced. This movie did a great job showing the sheer power and destructive capabilities of Kryptonians under a yellow sun. Bro I am insanely in love with this cinematography and combat sequence. Notice how Faora didn't bash Clark's masculinity or invoke any "girl power" nonsense? And still, she came off as a powerful female character in the movie. That's good writing by Goyer, the Nolan brothers, and Zack Snyder. Also brilliant acting by Crowe, Shanon, and Cavil.
What do you get when you throw an underrated director with a legendary character in front of immature cheap comedy audience You know what you get A fuckingly underrated masterpiece.
its not just underrated. Its rightly underrated. Man of Steel is a movie that fails to do justice to its lead character and provide any great thrill or entertainment. Positives- There is great spectacle. VFX, action, dazzling sequences. Cast - There is a big star cast. Henry Cavil even if he not the best of actors looks great as Super Man. I also thought the actor playing the villian did a good job of playing the character though he did not look very menacing. The rest of cast is also good though they really do not have very significant roles. Lois Lane's character is completely wasted. Only Russell Crowe seemed to have somewhat of an useful role. Negatives - I was not very enthused by the concept of the movie itself. I am not sure if this is origin story super man needed. It just does not fit the character. As a standalone concept its fine. But it just not fits Superman the superhero. In fact this movie at no point felt like a Super Man movie. It felt Superman and some of well known themes of his comics like his origin from Krypton, Lois Lane as reporter had been mashed into a story. Maybe with a different character and as original sci-fi action movie unrelated to super man this movie could have worked, somewhat better. But it fails as the origin story. The mood and tone of film is unnecessarily gloomy throughout. And the movie tries too hard to establish Super man as the hero when its not that hard. I mean Henry Cavil saves people. Then he is bullied. Then the young kid saves people. Then he is bullied. Then the family angle is strongly forced. I mean at every step Super Man has to show his greatness and strength of his character. This continues right till the end. As for the mood, the first 15 minutes or so are fine. It seems the movie would be sort of entertaining sci-fi action movie but the movie really adopts a very gloomy tone as it starts on earth. I am not sure if enhancing the value of Super Man's character by presenting his life as sad and tragic and giving the movie a sort of philosophical touch was the right idea. I mean what was the original punch line of Super Man. Its a bird, No its a plane. Its Super Man. Super Man is kind of a dashing character. To make him so philosophical and emotional was just not the right. The movie fails on all levels. I would give man of steel a 5-5.5.
I've never seen a movie broken down in such a manner. Your interpretation and dialogue actually changed my perspective of this movie and made it better than I originally thought. Bravo to you..!!
Preaching to the choir. MoS is a damned masterpiece. Saw it early due to a promotion through Wal Mart and left the theater in shock over what I had just witnessed. One of only 3 comic book movies I had given a 10 to (other two were Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight) at that point. And RIP Chadwick Boseman while I'm at it.
Another thing to consider, Zod wasn't even as much into killing humans as he was into provoking Clark to kill him. Pay attention how he doesn't even attack the people around, he only attacks Superman directly right until the culmination. He has the Warrior's Codex, so he can't really commit suicide hence he 'tricks' the Codex to force Superman kill him, and the only way his inner program enables this to happen is by a path of the warrior - in a battle to the death. It really bothered me at first when I saw it because I expected Zod to be bloodlusted, but the more you watch MoS the more layers you get. It really does age like a fine wine.
I feel like I wrote this editorial myself . Every point that you try to convey I have tried to convey to people. This movie will always have a special place in my heart for so many reasons . It is in my book the best superman movie . this movie was the first time In ten years that I was able to talk my dad into going to the theater and was the last ...
Is it wrong for me to actually like this version of Superman more than the classical perfect Superman? I cannot picture myself a Superman with no flaws, no inner conflicts. Only a child would see those powers as the coolest thing ever. A more mature person would see them as a burden indeed, because "with great power comes great RESPONSIBILITY", and "absolute power can corrupt absolutely". I would most likely be no hero with those powers. And i would probably never see it that way anyway. Which part of being responsible and incorruptible did the classical Superman movies get? None. He was responsible from the get-go. None of the struggles, of the character build. He was perfect. Except for when he kills Zod and his goons, where nobody says anything against it, but do so in MoS. I really loved this movie, of a more human Superman, because any kryptonian on Earth would be humanized, his morals would be our imperfect, grey morals. We are not perfect. Why would we or should we expect a perfect Superman? Critics and haters blame Zack for making Superman a Jesus-like figure. I think THEY see Superman as a Jesus-like figure, a perfect Messiah that saves everyone, ends wars, brings only hope and so on. A bit hypocritical imho.
Yeah. I respect Classic Superman just for how iconic he is, but I’m a much bigger fan of Man of Steel’s interpretation. The realism of it just has a lot more emotion, as to where the other is just, well, a cartoon.
@@CorbCorbin I loved Faora too lol she was such a bad arse antagonist...i hope she gets with Chris Meloni's character somehow in the Phantom zone through some mutual respect for this human military guy like her that even in the face of death was still ready to fight her then throws the line back at her just before his sacrifice....I'd like to think the reverse of what happens to Kryptonians here in our solar system happens to humans in their realm ... could be good for trying to get her back somehow for man of steel 2 ... oh, my only thought though John Campea on the killing of Zod by Kal El , he didn't technically just kill the last Krytonian as the others were sent back to the Phantom zone
How people didn't understand Johnathan Kent's love for his child is beyond me. I felt him Everytime he spoke. I would be scared of "humanity" finding out about my alien son too. Kevin Costner played him brilliantly.
I agree, people say that his character wasn't handle very well, to which I could say it's something debatable because I don't necessarily agree with the bus accident myself, but I could definitely understand where he was coming from in his idea, not that he didn't wanted Clark to save them, but for Clark to protect himself from the people around him; I do really wonder how would people here in real-life would react if there was ever a real Superman, I doubt they would be in open arms to receive him
Yeah my 2 fave superhero movies too but if you had to choose between these 2? I say mos.last week it was dark knight purely because of the joker but the action in mos was epic and its the best cinema experience ive ever had(enhanced by weed lol)
As somebody who has spent now going the second decade of reading thousands if not tens of thousands of comic books, mostly from DC, I believe it was THE best Superman movie. Anyone who says that Snyder, Terrio, and Goyer got Superman wrong has not read any Superman comic book. I would advise reading a lot of Post-Crisis, Superman: Earth One, and especially Byrne's Superman. I could write a book on why Man of Steel was the most comic book accurate Superman and the best Superman movie.
The majority of the criticisms of this movie are people's expectations not being met. A lot of "Superman would do this" or "Superman wouldn't do this", but those aren't really criticisms of the film itself.
I've been sayin this since June 13, 2013 on Thursday 12:00am for the midnight showing...This the most masterful, bold, complex, brave, and down right beautiful comic book film I've ever seen.💯💪
Just in the first five seconds he speaks so much truth there's no need for the video to even go on. You could just end it right there. Back before Thursday showings were the norm and you still had to catch the midnight show to see the movie "early". I'll never forget purchasing my Walmart advanced screening ticket to see Man of Steel on Thursday instead of Friday. or maybe it was Wednesday it was 7 years ago 🤷♂️😂. I'll never forget within the first 10 minutes of the opening Krypton scene I looked over to my brother and told him this is better than every other Superman movie that's already out. The pure joy I felt when I saw first flight on screen was so magical to me. It's still the single greatest superhero moment I have ever witnessed in a movie theater to this day. On top of that this movie has one of the best scores ever Hans Zimmer FTW! Man Of Steel is the best superhero movie of the last decade for me easily.
I never thought much of this movie before. I always thought of it as "too sombre for Superman". I kept my nostalgia glasses on for Chris Reeve's Superman. After watching this video, I decided to go back to the movie with an open mind, the goggles removed ... And my stance has completely changed. I'm actually blown away by how wrong I was in dismissing it in the way I did, so flippantly and unfairly. It is brilliant, and I respect Snyder more for it now.
I've defended this movie from the start. No one was fighting to look cool. Zod was fighting to kill, Clark was fighting to save his own life and everyone else's.
I just watched it again. That’s what lead me here. It’s criminally underrated. In fact, I don’t even remember what I didn’t like about the movie. It’s like I’ve been conditioned to just think Man of Steel is just mheh. But, that’s far for the truth. I just set a reminder to watch it again in 3 months. It’s now in my heavy rotation.
Perfect explanation.... People who say otherwise never explain in detail what do they see flawed in the film and they never consider highlighting the best parts of the film - as if there were no good parts at all... I think it also comes down to perspectives as a comic book reader and a film-based fan... People who have not read most of the comics will not understand the character development implementation in this DCEU genre envisioned by Zack Snyder... Well yes, to each their own and I'm sorry that we all can't see from eye to eye. And that's why we're humans... I see the value in Zack Snyder's DCEU and I'm going to support him till the end... ♥️
John I gotta say I've been on the MOS campaign ever since I saw this movie. And that's how I discovered u on RUclips. It's great to see you've finally done an editorial to help state our case.
Man of Steel made me believe a man could fly. This movie was spectacular. It was a beautiful character piece, a wonderful alien invasion story, and a frighteningly realistic look at a superhero and villain. I love this movie!
Man of Steel and the director's cut ( released as the "ultimate" cut) of BVS are my favorite superhero movies ( outside of Nolan's Dark Knight) and I don't care what anybody says!
I don’t understand the hate for this film. This Superman version was still learning how to be the hero the earth needs. Not every comic book movie is sunshine and rainbows. The effects were incredible and I think Henry Cavil is in incredible choice as Superman. It’s one of my top three all time comic book movies
This movie made me love superman more Before this movie I used to thing why would people get inspired by a guy who was so perfect and not vulnerable at all Then mos came and made me realise how even a powerful guy who can do anything be vulnerable and learn about himself This movie is a masterpiece atleast for me
Great video. Needs to be shown to all the Disney fans who hate anything that isn't marvel. Movies are better when they are deep, thoughtful and nuanced over cheesy popcorn gags with bad action sequences.
EXCELLENT breakdown! Man of Steel in my opinion is easily the greatest Superman movie ever made and an absolute masterpiece especially for people who TRULY know the character.
I literally can’t see why people hate on this movie, you don’t have to love it but don’t spread hate on it smh m. One of my favorite movies in general. Great video
Before watching: Superman is the luckiest man in the universe. If you don't want Superman to be boring, you have to show that he ISN'T the luckiest man in the universe, and MoS does this perfectly.
Yes, Yes, Yes... This was a perfect video explanation. I'm so tired of people shaming others for liking this film when it is very enjoyable, well done and superbly crafted. I'm not the biggest fan of BvS, but this was spot on.
I never understood why this movie was not liked. So much deeper dives into the characters than the previous movies. Not just good vs evil but motives behind the conflict. The psyche behind these characters. This movie showed how these people may have really acted if they were real, their struggles and ideological differences. That guidance he received from the Kents showed why Superman was who he was and not Red Son superman. Nurture VS. Nature aspects. I guess it is about what the audience has patience for and expectations. Great analysis
I thought Man of Steel was brilliant. Having grown up with the original, I went into it with arms folded, and walked out completely impressed. Imo it's easily the best of the DC movie that came out post-Dark Knight. It's a completely unique take on story; the cinematography was awesome, the music, the action and fight scenes, and the whole flows well. Faora was an awesome sidekick to Zod (those eyes!). There are things we never thought of: the change of atmosphere so the needs for the breathers, their ship and the World Engine. I love even the little things like that scene when Zod communicates to the world in all languages. The entire movie is solid and I've never seen seen Snyder or DC be able to duplicate the character development and unique storytelling that works so well in Man of Steel.
This video expresses everything that I love about Man of Steel and why I'm so confused as to why there are so many people that are confused by supposedly controversial scenes. I mean, you explained to perfection the internal logic of all the 'controversial' scene and why it's more of a matter of misinterpreting and misunderstanding than those being objectively bad scenes
Watchmen: Director’s Cut, Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition were all underrated Snyder flicks. Looking forward to his Justice League.
MOS is how if found the old AMC movie talk and my first introduction to John Campea and his OG crew. I simply could not understand all the hate this movie was receiving. To this day, I will defend Man of Steel as one of the best comic book movies ever made.
Snyder's Man of Steel is like classic Star Trek: deep humanistic philisophy, moral driven, deepening backstory, characters and leave the audience thinking. Superman is good by doing good and believing in good, but also: good cannot exist without evil. That, plus being true to the comics, made Man of Steel a cult classic. It stands alone, but above everything else.
Haven't been a huge fan of your channel but always watched a video now and then. But THIS? Huge respect man..you break it down beautifully and perfectly. I agree 100% with everything you say in here.
My personal favourite comic book movie, and in my top 20 movies of all time, maybe even top 10. So much depth and emotion involved. (Also one of few movies that gets better after each re-watch due to the huge amount of detail involved)
I guess people don't like MoS because its so dark. We'll for me its a trademark of Zack. And i love it. It's well grounded and more realistic. And it's different from Marvel. I don't want DCUE copying the tone of marvel movies to be honest.
It's not even all that dark. Moody would be a more proper description IMO. Critics call it bleak, but it was simply an artistic choice to build a colder tone and add shades of gray literal and not. Zack Snyder's 'typical' way lol
I actually discovered you along with the other AMC Movie Talk crew in your Man of Steel analysis back in 2013. Man of Steel will always hold a special place in my heart as being one of the greatest comic book movies of all time. Ill never get tired of hearing you rave about it because I’m raving along with you. Thank you for always recognizing it for what it is.
I've fought with people about the dopeness of this film for years. There's a section of the fandom that hates Superman and would never fully give MOS a legitimate chance. Then there are people who see Superman in such a narrow scope they didn't want to see a Clark Kent experience doubt, confusion or isolation. This take was the perfect modern update of the character. People just won't ask themselves valid questions. If you were the only one of your kind, powers and all, would you not feel like the ultimate outsider? Even the killing of Zod. "Superman doesn't kill. There were other options." What do you do with a Zod? As you said, determined, military trained with all Superman's powers. Superman didn't have a choice. Even if there was something he could have done in the moment, what jail would hold Zod? Killing him would have become necessary in the future. For me, we'd always merely accepted that Superman doesn't kill. Now we see why. He was deviated by his choice. The only choice he could have made.
Look at this, we could have built a new Krypton in this squalor, but you chose the humans over us. I exist only to protect Krypton, for that is the sole purpose for which I was born, and every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my people, and now I have no people. MY SOUL,THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TAKEN FROM ME!!! I'M GOING TO MAKE THEM SUFFER KAL,THESE HUMANS YOU'VE ADOPTED, I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM ALL FROM YOU, ONE BY ONE!!
Hey All, and quoting Zod above, as Spirit of JJ did, truly highlights how perfectly the writers, and actor Michael Shannon portraying Zod, perfectly captured this Superman origin story! It was a perfect film! Yes, perfect! I say this because my Brother Robert (yes my brother who had zero interest in all the comics his Big Brother collected each week) said to me not long after seeing this film, “Wow, I finally understand why you read comics while we were growing up! Man of Steel was fantastic! Guess I should start checking out these Superhero movies!” He has since gone on to see Wonder Woman, Batman vs Superman, a bunch of the X-Men movies...
I reject the idea that superman caused too much damage. Or that it was out of his character to kill zod too. This is Superman's origin story. Klark doesn't even know what it is/means to be superman yet! Not to mention that he is completely overwhelmed by everything going on . reunited with his people. But they want to destroy humanity for their own agenda. Understanding their agenda because they are his people too and being torn up about it. Being threatened himself, his mother and lois being threatened. He is completely justified in also being very angry with zod. This was the best superman to this day. I love it so much! Henry Cavil is so phenomenal in the role. Im so excited for the Snyder cut of the justice league. And really hope they do a man of steel 2. And another justice league movie at the very least. Glad to see other people who see what i see. ☺🤘
I've said for years that people obsession with how "dark" this movie was or one or two decisions in it has completely blinded them to how brilliant a character study it is. Yes, Marvel films are a hell of a lot of fun, but it took them years yo get even close to this depth.
The only movie, that I can watch every single day without skipping a single scene.... Infact, everytime I feel like watching a good movie, I turn to Man of Steel ( And sometimes Interstellar)
I have always struggled to admit publicly, that i love Man of Steel because of the amount of hate it got, it makes me very happy to see so many people in the comments section who love this movie.
Man of steel is one of my fav comic book movies of all time. It is fantastic, amazing morals, great characters, great story just, wow. How do people dislike this film? Its one of those movies that confuses me to this day why people think this is bad. Why? Other than some dialogue choices..Im honestly shocked. Can someone explain?
One Line everyone forgot is when Jor-El tell Kal-El : Keep testing your limits. Now killing when there is no other choices is one limit he now knows he is not willing to cross anymore
What a brilliant, insightful analysis of Man of Steel. I grew up in the 60s reading Superman comics and loved this rendition of Superman as well as Henry Cavill's superb interpretation of a man struggling to find his place in the world!
Jonathan Kent was giving Clark his final lesson.... Resisting temptation to use his power while he is not yet mature. Once Jonathan is gone....Clark was given the freedom to decide his path....either to be a hero or be tyrant.
PREACH JOHN PREACH. I’ve been saying his for years. Sure the MCU and dark knight trilogy are all fantastic in their own rights, but I find myself coming back to MOS over and over again, more than any other film or series in the genre. There are so many Snyder moments and they are all visually and thematically brilliant. Not to mention it has one of Zimmers best scores and often gets me pumped with adrenaline and goosebumps at the same time. This movie will always be one of my favorites and I will never get tired of it!
I noticed from the comments of why they didn't like Superman, is that they don't really understand the hero and story, and in that way they can never relate no matter who writes the script. That is the truth. A lot of people always say superman is boring character because everything is so easy for him, but this movie shows the tough moral decisions that would be hard for anyone regardless of power and the will to see it through.
@@Lone432345 Did you watch the Christopher Reeves Superman movie? In the first movie he had to choose between two missiles that Lex had launched. In the second movie he had to choose between living a mortal life to live a normal life with Lois or be Superman to keep people safe... (e.g. to fight zod and the phantom zone villains).
Zach Snyder is amazing. Let the man do the films his way, not the compromised way. The man knows what he's doing. We need all the films done as a Snyder Cut or original viosn released on HBO Max
I usually just tell people to look up the video "a thesis on man of steel", great watch and definitely opens you to an interesting take on the film. Made me appreciate it even more and I already loved MOS beforehand.
It’s clear that Snyder was going for a more grounded and realistic version of the Superman mythos, and I think he did a great job at doing that. Superman has never been more relatable
@Ryan Irwin- Diehl No you do. He is ridiculously one dimensional with no depth at all in most of them apart from The Death of Superman, Birthright, Brainiac, The Man of Tomorrow and For the Man who has Everything. Ironically it's the elseworld stories such as Red Son, Kingdom Come, Injustice, All Star Superman and Earth One that are by far the best written and most interesting.
John this is completely on point. Everything I’ve felt & love about this movie you hammered home. One thing I think you may have missed is how Superman is a beacon of Hope for humanity. That was key for me in Man of Steel. I’d love to see your take on Batman V Superman. Well done & I love your channel. Thanks.
I really hope that people will always watch the UE because the theatrical version does it no justice! Like with Watchmen i only saw the theatrical cut once and that was my first viewing in theatres but since then i've only watched the directors cut and I've done that with BvS. People seem to forget that the theatrical version was what the studio heads wanted and the director’s cut is the film the director set out to make from the beginning so i kind of wish people would give BvS a chance with the UE because if that was the version we saw in theatres then i think people would have appreciated it ALOT more......hopefully when ZSJL hits HBO max everyone will watch that version and be blown away!
Agree with 99.9% of what you said. Only thing I disagree on is he’s never “Superman” I’m this moving, he’s just a man with superpowers. This movie is the beginning of CLARK’S journey to eventually become SUPERMAN. I don’t think he fully becomes Superman until he sacrifices himself to save the world in BvS. And going forward, after his resurrection, he becomes the Superman everyone knows and loves. The Superman people complained he wasn’t in the first two films. I think they missed that he didn’t quite become Superman yet. This is Clark with superpowers.
I think he was Superman briefly at the end of MOS. But I feel he quickly lost hope in that in BVS. He even said that Superman was never real in BVS. So he just needed to find his hope/motivation again because he felt like no one fully appreciated him. So perhaps that was his full character arc at the end of bvs where he finds that saving people is worth it even though people will always complain or there will be collateral damage.
Thank You so much for making this video, I love this film and have exactly like you been singing its praises since the moment I walked out of that cinema in 2013. Zod is also one of the most underrated villains ever. As he kneels in the ash and rubble of the birthing pods I can't help but feel sympathy for him every time even though I know what terrible actions he would have taken against humanity, the idea of saving your people is a universal one.
People complain about not only this film but DC in general being very Dark but can I say that I prefer DC being Dark over the lighthearted and joking matter of the MCU which I am honestly getting a little tired of. Henry Cavill was the reason I started liking Superman and why I actually really like Superman now where for the longest time I hated him because Henry Cavill's Superman I saw that he wasn't Mr. Perfect and what made me like this superman and superman in general. This was a really great movie and I will say Dark DC is better than being jokingly and lighthearted and I have seen myself become more of DC fan instead of a Marvel fan personally
It is very curious how this movie has great values behind it and the only thing people talk about is the "holes" it has then marvel puts out the same movie three times and everyone applauds
I think that partially has to do with the differing tones that the movies set. Man of Steel is a pretty somber film that takes itself pretty seriously, while Marvel movies tend to go with a pretty light-hearted tone. When a movie takes itself seriously, it's inviting the audience to also take it seriously. When films have a more light hearted and often comedic tone, they don't invite the same level of criticism. Captain America Civil War has some massive "holes" when you consider some of the timing and logistics of the movie. But audiences didn't really care because it's more fun to watch Spider-Man making quips than it is to watch Vision immediately incapacitate everyone on the opposing side. Man of Steel doesn't have the same veneer of playful fun, and so audiences aren't as willing to just write off their issues with the movie.
The movie had a great correlation to the Earth One comic story line. I am huge Superman fan and absolutely love MoS. The cast is superb. I believe that Kevin Costner and Diane Lane are absolutely stunning as Jonathan and Martha Kent. The beliefs and fears that Jonathan Kent has regarding the Earth's reactions to Clark/Superman are true and realistically grounded. The conversation with the Kents and the child's mother after the bus incident drive this point home. Then again the reactions of the priest later during his conversation with Clark. You can see the emotion on the priest and how he is reacting knowing that he is talking to an alien. Thanks John for the video. I couldn't agree more
Man of steel in my eyes is just as good as infinity war, General Zod was one of the most righteous & menacing villains we have ever seen on the big screen, he is up Their with Thanos, Joker & Darth Vader!
That's what I hear most from supporters of Man of Steel. "I never really liked the character until seeing this movie". Well, yeah. There is a reason for that. It was made by someone who didn't like the character. Someone who wrote it to be more along the lines of what he would enjoy instead of staying true to what he is supposed to be. Its like saying I wasn't an Abe Lincoln fan until seeing the movie were he fought vampires. John often says the decisions made in the movie were right for the story.. But when the person making the movie goes into it saying "if I'm going to make a Superman movie, I want a fight that leaves thousands dead and has Superman kill", then yeah, he's going to write ways for that to happen. But its completely missing the point. Thousands of Superhero stories get to a point where it looks like the hero is going to have to go against his beliefs or fail or lose. The finding a way not to is what makes them better. "Clark HAD to let Jonathan die", "It was Superman's first day".. Well, Goliath would of course beat David. But the good storyteller shows how David does the impossible. If this movie didn't make it clear Snyder would rather progress the story than have Clark be the hero that every other hero that comes after looks up to because he ALWAYS finds a way, BvS hammers it home. Scenes like him walking out of the burning courthouse moping instead of springing into action putting out the fire or looking for people to help shows he doesn't get the character.
I totally agree that this is one of the most underrated superhero movies I have seen. Every time I watch it I enjoy it more. The music is incredible, the tone is appropriate, the acting is above average, the effects and action are entertaining. Great points in the video.
Man, I remember seeing Man of Steel, opening night at the Lincoln Square IMAX in NY and having a “holy shit” moment when seeing Krypton for the very first time....the movie blew me away (for so many different reasons) and is definitely one of my favorite superhero movies of all time :D
M.O.S. is great. I thank Zack Snyder for bringing us his vision of a more modern, realistic Superman. Maybe it was TOO modern and cynical for some, but I appreciated this interpretation. Henry Cavill, under a lot of pressure to live up to the character and Christopher Reeve's iconic portrayal, did a great job. An amazing score by Hans Zimmer puts the icing on the cake.
You are right, the movie was a masterpiece, some people this day lack of emotional empathy they wanna see only punches and action on the entire duration of the movie but going deep inside the emotions and human side of this heroes makes the movies 10 times greater.
Can we talk about how underrated Hans Zimmer's score is for this movie? The theme for Superman was so powerful it gave me different emotions ranging from goosebumps, tears of sadness and joy. I vividly remember this theme playing during the credits and hearing a roar of applause in the theater. The theme is undoubtedly a theme of hope.
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I will say this: Even people that doesn't like the movie enjoy the score... Hans Zimmer outdone himself this time. Amazing score.
Best score for DCEU. Think on equal footing to the Wonder woman theme
I've got it on my playlist ... Good pump up just before senior managers accounting meetings at work lol
Amen to that, I remember when it was presented in the trailer, it gave me chills
What makes Zod even more tragic is that he was literally bred to be in service to the preservation of Krypton. The guy was not born with the ability to choose where to put his loyalty to, or to reconsider actions that are horrific, because he was made with one true purpose that he cannot escape. He's not an individual shaped by trauma or experience; he's an individual molded from the start to only care about one thing. And it was only fitting that the person standing in his way was an individual of his own race who was born capable of choosing where his loyalty and destiny lied.
Exactly. He was a sad genetic monster
Absolute phenomenal film. And just heard news that Henry cavil is in talks to reprise his role. As superman.
John Campea, this is a Excellent explanation of the movie "Man Of Steel". I personlly really Loved this movie "Man Of Steel". I loved how you went into detail on why Superman was the way he was & why he made the decions that he made & why. I also liked how you went into details on the making & decisions that Zack & Writer of the movie (his name escape me) they made in the making of the film. Also how you compared it to other films. No Batman in this movie that John Campea is talking about here in this video. This movie "Man Of Steel" is Henry Cavills movie.
Zack Snyder is a way more nuanced storyteller than anyone gives him credit for.
His comment about Batman really darkened his image for people
@@baylinersimp787 see. People stop at only one sentence and they embark on the bandwagon of hatred towards him. Like are they sure if Bruce is sent to prison that wouldn't happen. They're so dumb
Sadly he pretty much deleted all the nuance from Watchmen when he adapted that.
@@kingkiller5325 right, but the whole point of the book is that the whole thing is ironic and satirical. But the movie was not ironic or satirical in any way. So, it's like completely missing the point.
The movie is built around delivering exciting sequences of badass superhero action. But that has nothing to do with the comic book. At all.
Man of Steel is a great movie, the reason why it didn't perform well is because people were comparing it to a Marvel movie, which you shouldn't do, it's like comparing oil to water, they are not the same.
Exactly man. DC & Marvel have completely different tones entirely. Yet some same but more differently.
DC stays true to the characters. You have characters like Batman and Superman on one side which have a more dark and serious tone to them with Wonder Woman somewhere in between and then on the other hand you have light hearted characters like Shazam and The Flash and to a certain extent Aquaman.
Marve movies are watered down for kids
This exactly why I prefer DC. Because they actually make you think about how these heroes and villains have repercussions in the real world. The film was a complete package and an epic journey from start to finish. I love the graphic novels used, the properly executed punchlines, and the background of the characters introduced. This movie did a great job showing the sheer power and destructive capabilities of Kryptonians under a yellow sun. Bro I am insanely in love with this cinematography and combat sequence. Notice how Faora didn't bash Clark's masculinity or invoke any "girl power" nonsense? And still, she came off as a powerful female character in the movie. That's good writing by Goyer, the Nolan brothers, and Zack Snyder. Also brilliant acting by Crowe, Shanon, and Cavil.
What do you get when you throw an underrated director with a legendary character in front of immature cheap comedy audience
You know what you get
A fuckingly underrated masterpiece.
It really captures the character perfectly in a world like ours where there’s consequences for every action. He just wants to do the right thing
I understood that reference.
Remember people, that's life.
Marvel: movies
DC : cinema
Omg fax bro
its not just underrated. Its rightly underrated. Man of Steel is a movie that fails to do justice to its lead character and provide any great thrill or entertainment.
Positives- There is great spectacle. VFX, action, dazzling sequences.
Cast - There is a big star cast. Henry Cavil even if he not the best of actors looks great as Super Man. I also thought the actor playing the villian did a good job of playing the character though he did not look very menacing. The rest of cast is also good though they really do not have very significant roles. Lois Lane's character is completely wasted. Only Russell Crowe seemed to have somewhat of an useful role.
Negatives - I was not very enthused by the concept of the movie itself. I am not sure if this is origin story super man needed. It just does not fit the character. As a standalone concept its fine. But it just not fits Superman the superhero. In fact this movie at no point felt like a Super Man movie. It felt Superman and some of well known themes of his comics like his origin from Krypton, Lois Lane as reporter had been mashed into a story. Maybe with a different character and as original sci-fi action movie unrelated to super man this movie could have worked, somewhat better. But it fails as the origin story.
The mood and tone of film is unnecessarily gloomy throughout. And the movie tries too hard to establish Super man as the hero when its not that hard. I mean Henry Cavil saves people. Then he is bullied. Then the young kid saves people. Then he is bullied. Then the family angle is strongly forced. I mean at every step Super Man has to show his greatness and strength of his character. This continues right till the end. As for the mood, the first 15 minutes or so are fine. It seems the movie would be sort of entertaining sci-fi action movie but the movie really adopts a very gloomy tone as it starts on earth. I am not sure if enhancing the value of Super Man's character by presenting his life as sad and tragic and giving the movie a sort of philosophical touch was the right idea. I mean what was the original punch line of Super Man.
Its a bird, No its a plane. Its Super Man. Super Man is kind of a dashing character. To make him so philosophical and emotional was just not the right. The movie fails on all levels.
I would give man of steel a 5-5.5.
I've never seen a movie broken down in such a manner. Your interpretation and dialogue actually changed my perspective of this movie and made it better than I originally thought. Bravo to you..!!
Preaching to the choir. MoS is a damned masterpiece. Saw it early due to a promotion through Wal Mart and left the theater in shock over what I had just witnessed. One of only 3 comic book movies I had given a 10 to (other two were Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight) at that point.
And RIP Chadwick Boseman while I'm at it.
Another thing to consider, Zod wasn't even as much into killing humans as he was into provoking Clark to kill him. Pay attention how he doesn't even attack the people around, he only attacks Superman directly right until the culmination. He has the Warrior's Codex, so he can't really commit suicide hence he 'tricks' the Codex to force Superman kill him, and the only way his inner program enables this to happen is by a path of the warrior - in a battle to the death.
It really bothered me at first when I saw it because I expected Zod to be bloodlusted, but the more you watch MoS the more layers you get. It really does age like a fine wine.
I feel like I wrote this editorial myself . Every point that you try to convey I have tried to convey to people. This movie will always have a special place in my heart for so many reasons . It is in my book the best superman movie . this movie was the first time In ten years that I was able to talk my dad into going to the theater and was the last ...
I don't agree with John on everything but I do agree with John's take on Man of Steel. It's a true masterpiece of the genre.
Ikr?? This is the same guy who said snyder cut is the same movie as the theatrical cut
@@MistaJ28 the weird part is im sure he is going to love the Snydercut but he was so against its existence for whatever reason.
I never understood why people disliked this film. I can watch this 1000 times and still not be bored.
this movie is beautifully paced man
Is it wrong for me to actually like this version of Superman more than the classical perfect Superman? I cannot picture myself a Superman with no flaws, no inner conflicts. Only a child would see those powers as the coolest thing ever. A more mature person would see them as a burden indeed, because "with great power comes great RESPONSIBILITY", and "absolute power can corrupt absolutely". I would most likely be no hero with those powers. And i would probably never see it that way anyway. Which part of being responsible and incorruptible did the classical Superman movies get? None. He was responsible from the get-go. None of the struggles, of the character build. He was perfect. Except for when he kills Zod and his goons, where nobody says anything against it, but do so in MoS. I really loved this movie, of a more human Superman, because any kryptonian on Earth would be humanized, his morals would be our imperfect, grey morals. We are not perfect. Why would we or should we expect a perfect Superman? Critics and haters blame Zack for making Superman a Jesus-like figure. I think THEY see Superman as a Jesus-like figure, a perfect Messiah that saves everyone, ends wars, brings only hope and so on. A bit hypocritical imho.
Absolutely, especially considering the comics explore A LOT of those inner conflicts.
Yeah. I respect Classic Superman just for how iconic he is, but I’m a much bigger fan of Man of Steel’s interpretation. The realism of it just has a lot more emotion, as to where the other is just, well, a cartoon.
really good thoughts
This film was ahead of its time
I 100% agree with your analysis .... I LOVED THE FILM ... it was the most human portrayal of Superman retold in our time .... Thanks .
Well...Superman 2...when he’s actually human in the diner scene. 😝 Then he goes back and scares the dude half to death.
@@CorbCorbin I loved Faora too lol she was such a bad arse antagonist...i hope she gets with Chris Meloni's character somehow in the Phantom zone through some mutual respect for this human military guy like her that even in the face of death was still ready to fight her then throws the line back at her just before his sacrifice....I'd like to think the reverse of what happens to Kryptonians here in our solar system happens to humans in their realm ... could be good for trying to get her back somehow for man of steel 2 ... oh, my only thought though John Campea on the killing of Zod by Kal El , he didn't technically just kill the last Krytonian as the others were sent back to the Phantom zone
How people didn't understand Johnathan Kent's love for his child is beyond me. I felt him Everytime he spoke. I would be scared of "humanity" finding out about my alien son too. Kevin Costner played him brilliantly.
I agree, people say that his character wasn't handle very well, to which I could say it's something debatable because I don't necessarily agree with the bus accident myself, but I could definitely understand where he was coming from in his idea, not that he didn't wanted Clark to save them, but for Clark to protect himself from the people around him; I do really wonder how would people here in real-life would react if there was ever a real Superman, I doubt they would be in open arms to receive him
My all time favorite super hero movies:
1) The Dark Knight
2) Man of Steel
Yeah my 2 fave superhero movies too but if you had to choose between these 2? I say mos.last week it was dark knight purely because of the joker but the action in mos was epic and its the best cinema experience ive ever had(enhanced by weed lol)
And Logan
As somebody who has spent now going the second decade of reading thousands if not tens of thousands of comic books, mostly from DC, I believe it was THE best Superman movie.
Anyone who says that Snyder, Terrio, and Goyer got Superman wrong has not read any Superman comic book.
I would advise reading a lot of Post-Crisis, Superman: Earth One, and especially Byrne's Superman.
I could write a book on why Man of Steel was the most comic book accurate Superman and the best Superman movie.
Actually the story was written by Christopher nolan and D. S. Goyer .
Exactly man oglf steel is the best
The majority of the criticisms of this movie are people's expectations not being met. A lot of "Superman would do this" or "Superman wouldn't do this", but those aren't really criticisms of the film itself.
And biased marvel fans
I've been sayin this since June 13, 2013 on Thursday 12:00am for the midnight showing...This the most masterful, bold, complex, brave, and down right beautiful comic book film I've ever seen.💯💪
Facts 🔥
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Just in the first five seconds he speaks so much truth there's no need for the video to even go on. You could just end it right there.
Back before Thursday showings were the norm and you still had to catch the midnight show to see the movie "early". I'll never forget purchasing my Walmart advanced screening ticket to see Man of Steel on Thursday instead of Friday. or maybe it was Wednesday it was 7 years ago 🤷♂️😂.
I'll never forget within the first 10 minutes of the opening Krypton scene I looked over to my brother and told him this is better than every other Superman movie that's already out. The pure joy I felt when I saw first flight on screen was so magical to me. It's still the single greatest superhero moment I have ever witnessed in a movie theater to this day. On top of that this movie has one of the best scores ever Hans Zimmer FTW!
Man Of Steel is the best superhero movie of the last decade for me easily.
I never thought much of this movie before. I always thought of it as "too sombre for Superman". I kept my nostalgia glasses on for Chris Reeve's Superman.
After watching this video, I decided to go back to the movie with an open mind, the goggles removed ... And my stance has completely changed. I'm actually blown away by how wrong I was in dismissing it in the way I did, so flippantly and unfairly. It is brilliant, and I respect Snyder more for it now.
I've seen it 8 times. Maybe in a decade the movie will receive it's due.
Like the star wars prequels, "you may not like it, but your kids will love it"
I've defended this movie from the start. No one was fighting to look cool. Zod was fighting to kill, Clark was fighting to save his own life and everyone else's.
@@dcforever3537 --- Totally agree with you.....
Bijoy Keisham yup
Man of Steel is my favorite movie of all time!
Man, finally someone that understands me.
I just watched it again. That’s what lead me here. It’s criminally underrated. In fact, I don’t even remember what I didn’t like about the movie. It’s like I’ve been conditioned to just think Man of Steel is just mheh. But, that’s far for the truth. I just set a reminder to watch it again in 3 months. It’s now in my heavy rotation.
Perfect explanation.... People who say otherwise never explain in detail what do they see flawed in the film and they never consider highlighting the best parts of the film - as if there were no good parts at all... I think it also comes down to perspectives as a comic book reader and a film-based fan... People who have not read most of the comics will not understand the character development implementation in this DCEU genre envisioned by Zack Snyder... Well yes, to each their own and I'm sorry that we all can't see from eye to eye. And that's why we're humans... I see the value in Zack Snyder's DCEU and I'm going to support him till the end... ♥️
Every bit of statement is what i feel deep down in my bones. Man of steel is a masterpiece
John I gotta say I've been on the MOS campaign ever since I saw this movie. And that's how I discovered u on RUclips. It's great to see you've finally done an editorial to help state our case.
Man of Steel made me believe a man could fly. This movie was spectacular. It was a beautiful character piece, a wonderful alien invasion story, and a frighteningly realistic look at a superhero and villain. I love this movie!
This movie was ahead of Its time
@@WL1264 name a movie that had these anime like fights in 2013. Now we can see these in godzilla vs kong.
@@WL1264 i understand youre the type of guy who enjoys watching scenes like rat bringing antman back.
Zack Snyder's Superman is the best because unlike other versions, his Superman is motivated by self-interest.
Man of Steel should be on TOP 5 Best Super Hero of all Time.
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Man of Steel is one of those movies I watched many times and I rarely watch a movie twice, lol. Warner needs to trust Zack Snyder's vision.
Man of Steel and the director's cut ( released as the "ultimate" cut) of BVS are my favorite superhero movies ( outside of Nolan's Dark Knight) and I don't care what anybody says!
Zack synder is underrated as a director
I don’t understand the hate for this film. This Superman version was still learning how to be the hero the earth needs. Not every comic book movie is sunshine and rainbows. The effects were incredible and I think Henry Cavil is in incredible choice as Superman. It’s one of my top three all time comic book movies
Or maybe it’s just sort of a lousy movie, whether or not the actual character was dark or “rainbows”.
This movie made me love superman more
Before this movie I used to thing why would people get inspired by a guy who was so perfect and not vulnerable at all
Then mos came and made me realise how even a powerful guy who can do anything be vulnerable and learn about himself
This movie is a masterpiece atleast for me
There's no problem with it being dark and gritty as long as it's well-written, which Man of Steel is not.
Great video. Needs to be shown to all the Disney fans who hate anything that isn't marvel. Movies are better when they are deep, thoughtful and nuanced over cheesy popcorn gags with bad action sequences.
EXCELLENT breakdown! Man of Steel in my opinion is easily the greatest Superman movie ever made and an absolute masterpiece especially for people who TRULY know the character.
I literally can’t see why people hate on this movie, you don’t have to love it but don’t spread hate on it smh m. One of my favorite movies in general. Great video
Before watching: Superman is the luckiest man in the universe. If you don't want Superman to be boring, you have to show that he ISN'T the luckiest man in the universe, and MoS does this perfectly.
Yes, Yes, Yes... This was a perfect video explanation. I'm so tired of people shaming others for liking this film when it is very enjoyable, well done and superbly crafted.
I'm not the biggest fan of BvS, but this was spot on.
I never understood why this movie was not liked. So much deeper dives into the characters than the previous movies. Not just good vs evil but motives behind the conflict. The psyche behind these characters. This movie showed how these people may have really acted if they were real, their struggles and ideological differences. That guidance he received from the Kents showed why Superman was who he was and not Red Son superman. Nurture VS. Nature aspects. I guess it is about what the audience has patience for and expectations. Great analysis
I thought Man of Steel was brilliant. Having grown up with the original, I went into it with arms folded, and walked out completely impressed. Imo it's easily the best of the DC movie that came out post-Dark Knight. It's a completely unique take on story; the cinematography was awesome, the music, the action and fight scenes, and the whole flows well. Faora was an awesome sidekick to Zod (those eyes!). There are things we never thought of: the change of atmosphere so the needs for the breathers, their ship and the World Engine. I love even the little things like that scene when Zod communicates to the world in all languages. The entire movie is solid and I've never seen seen Snyder or DC be able to duplicate the character development and unique storytelling that works so well in Man of Steel.
This video expresses everything that I love about Man of Steel and why I'm so confused as to why there are so many people that are confused by supposedly controversial scenes. I mean, you explained to perfection the internal logic of all the 'controversial' scene and why it's more of a matter of misinterpreting and misunderstanding than those being objectively bad scenes
THANK YOU!! Jesus I never understood the hate. I felt like I was the only person who even liked it.
You just have to ignore the crying jealous Marvel kids.
Absolutely agree, Man of Steel was ahead of its time. Brillant movie.
Watchmen: Director’s Cut, Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition were all underrated Snyder flicks.
Looking forward to his Justice League.
@Ryan Irwin- Diehl Lovely comment, you want a cookie?
MOS is how if found the old AMC movie talk and my first introduction to John Campea and his OG crew. I simply could not understand all the hate this movie was receiving. To this day, I will defend Man of Steel as one of the best comic book movies ever made.
Snyder's Man of Steel is like classic Star Trek: deep humanistic philisophy, moral driven, deepening backstory, characters and leave the audience thinking. Superman is good by doing good and believing in good, but also: good cannot exist without evil. That, plus being true to the comics, made Man of Steel a cult classic. It stands alone, but above everything else.
Haven't been a huge fan of your channel but always watched a video now and then. But THIS? Huge respect man..you break it down beautifully and perfectly. I agree 100% with everything you say in here.
If Snyder is a bad director then why many directors appreciate and praise his work?
I'm with John C on this one and believe Man of Steel is a masterpiece.
This is a brilliant film, Love it and it never gets old
My personal favourite comic book movie, and in my top 20 movies of all time, maybe even top 10. So much depth and emotion involved.
(Also one of few movies that gets better after each re-watch due to the huge amount of detail involved)
keim73 And the Hans Zimmer Superman theme......Oh. My. God!
I guess people don't like MoS because its so dark. We'll for me its a trademark of Zack. And i love it. It's well grounded and more realistic. And it's different from Marvel. I don't want DCUE copying the tone of marvel movies to be honest.
It's not even all that dark. Moody would be a more proper description IMO. Critics call it bleak, but it was simply an artistic choice to build a colder tone and add shades of gray literal and not.
Zack Snyder's 'typical' way lol
I actually discovered you along with the other AMC Movie Talk crew in your Man of Steel analysis back in 2013. Man of Steel will always hold a special place in my heart as being one of the greatest comic book movies of all time. Ill never get tired of hearing you rave about it because I’m raving along with you. Thank you for always recognizing it for what it is.
I've fought with people about the dopeness of this film for years. There's a section of the fandom that hates Superman and would never fully give MOS a legitimate chance. Then there are people who see Superman in such a narrow scope they didn't want to see a Clark Kent experience doubt, confusion or isolation. This take was the perfect modern update of the character. People just won't ask themselves valid questions. If you were the only one of your kind, powers and all, would you not feel like the ultimate outsider? Even the killing of Zod. "Superman doesn't kill. There were other options." What do you do with a Zod? As you said, determined, military trained with all Superman's powers. Superman didn't have a choice. Even if there was something he could have done in the moment, what jail would hold Zod? Killing him would have become necessary in the future. For me, we'd always merely accepted that Superman doesn't kill. Now we see why. He was deviated by his choice. The only choice he could have made.
"You are my son." Kevin Costner hasn't delivered a line with that much emotional power since "Do not forget your dying king..." in JFK.
Look at this, we could have built a new Krypton in this squalor, but you chose the humans over us. I exist only to protect Krypton, for that is the sole purpose for which I was born, and every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my people, and now I have no people.
MY SOUL,THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TAKEN FROM ME!!!
I'M GOING TO MAKE THEM SUFFER KAL,THESE HUMANS YOU'VE ADOPTED, I'M GOING TO TAKE THEM ALL FROM YOU, ONE BY ONE!!
Best villain in any DC movie. Zod is at the same level as the Joker.
Hey All, and quoting Zod above, as Spirit of JJ did, truly highlights how perfectly the writers, and actor Michael Shannon portraying Zod, perfectly captured this Superman origin story! It was a perfect film! Yes, perfect! I say this because my Brother Robert (yes my brother who had zero interest in all the comics his Big Brother collected each week) said to me not long after seeing this film, “Wow, I finally understand why you read comics while we were growing up! Man of Steel was fantastic! Guess I should start checking out these Superhero movies!” He has since gone on to see Wonder Woman, Batman vs Superman, a bunch of the X-Men movies...
I reject the idea that superman caused too much damage. Or that it was out of his character to kill zod too. This is Superman's origin story. Klark doesn't even know what it is/means to be superman yet! Not to mention that he is completely overwhelmed by everything going on . reunited with his people. But they want to destroy humanity for their own agenda. Understanding their agenda because they are his people too and being torn up about it. Being threatened himself, his mother and lois being threatened. He is completely justified in also being very angry with zod.
This was the best superman to this day. I love it so much! Henry Cavil is so phenomenal in the role. Im so excited for the Snyder cut of the justice league. And really hope they do a man of steel 2. And another justice league movie at the very least. Glad to see other people who see what i see. ☺🤘
I've said for years that people obsession with how "dark" this movie was or one or two decisions in it has completely blinded them to how brilliant a character study it is.
Yes, Marvel films are a hell of a lot of fun, but it took them years yo get even close to this depth.
The only movie, that I can watch every single day without skipping a single scene.... Infact, everytime I feel like watching a good movie, I turn to Man of Steel ( And sometimes Interstellar)
I have always struggled to admit publicly, that i love Man of Steel because of the amount of hate it got, it makes me very happy to see so many people in the comments section who love this movie.
Man of steel, BvS, justice league snyder cut these are the best ever
Man of steel is one of my fav comic book movies of all time. It is fantastic, amazing morals, great characters, great story just, wow. How do people dislike this film? Its one of those movies that confuses me to this day why people think this is bad. Why? Other than some dialogue choices..Im honestly shocked. Can someone explain?
One Line everyone forgot is when Jor-El tell Kal-El : Keep testing your limits. Now killing when there is no other choices is one limit he now knows he is not willing to cross anymore
What a brilliant, insightful analysis of Man of Steel. I grew up in the 60s reading Superman comics and loved this rendition of Superman as well as Henry Cavill's superb interpretation of a man struggling to find his place in the world!
Do you think it's better than the originals?
Jonathan Kent was giving Clark his final lesson.... Resisting temptation to use his power while he is not yet mature. Once Jonathan is gone....Clark was given the freedom to decide his path....either to be a hero or be tyrant.
This movie was AWESOME!!! Loved it!!! I cried at the end when he struggled with killing Zod.
PREACH JOHN PREACH. I’ve been saying his for years. Sure the MCU and dark knight trilogy are all fantastic in their own rights, but I find myself coming back to MOS over and over again, more than any other film or series in the genre. There are so many Snyder moments and they are all visually and thematically brilliant. Not to mention it has one of Zimmers best scores and often gets me pumped with adrenaline and goosebumps at the same time. This movie will always be one of my favorites and I will never get tired of it!
I noticed from the comments of why they didn't like Superman, is that they don't really understand the hero and story, and in that way they can never relate no matter who writes the script. That is the truth.
A lot of people always say superman is boring character because everything is so easy for him, but this movie shows the tough moral decisions that would be hard for anyone regardless of power and the will to see it through.
Because Superman never dealt with tough moral decisions before MOS.
@@Lone432345 Did you watch the Christopher Reeves Superman movie? In the first movie he had to choose between two missiles that Lex had launched. In the second movie he had to choose between living a mortal life to live a normal life with Lois or be Superman to keep people safe... (e.g. to fight zod and the phantom zone villains).
Zach Snyder is amazing. Let the man do the films his way, not the compromised way. The man knows what he's doing. We need all the films done as a Snyder Cut or original viosn released on HBO Max
Don't forget there was a lot of Nolan in Man Of Steel too. That can't be overlooked.
the you are my son scene truly underated amazing acting
I usually just tell people to look up the video "a thesis on man of steel", great watch and definitely opens you to an interesting take on the film. Made me appreciate it even more and I already loved MOS beforehand.
It’s the movie which got me to like Superman and find his powers awesome, now years down the line he’s in my top 5 favourite superheroes of all time.
Man of Steel is the most underrated masterpiece of our time. Nobody can change my mind.
'Nobody' here.
Absolutely on point!
I love that scene where Superman has no choice but to kill Zod. He cries out and is consoled byLois.
It’s clear that Snyder was going for a more grounded and realistic version of the Superman mythos, and I think he did a great job at doing that. Superman has never been more relatable
@Ryan Irwin- Diehl No you do. He is ridiculously one dimensional with no depth at all in most of them apart from The Death of Superman, Birthright, Brainiac, The Man of Tomorrow and For the Man who has Everything. Ironically it's the elseworld stories such as Red Son, Kingdom Come, Injustice, All Star Superman and Earth One that are by far the best written and most interesting.
MoS made me feel alive, Zach Snyder perhaps touched too many aspects but it was inevitable. Well done, Henry!
Nothing wrong with feeling alive.
John this is completely on point. Everything I’ve felt & love about this movie you hammered home. One thing I think you may have missed is how Superman is a beacon of Hope for humanity. That was key for me in Man of Steel. I’d love to see your take on Batman V Superman. Well done & I love your channel. Thanks.
I really hope that people will always watch the UE because the theatrical version does it no justice! Like with Watchmen i only saw the theatrical cut once and that was my first viewing in theatres but since then i've only watched the directors cut and I've done that with BvS. People seem to forget that the theatrical version was what the studio heads wanted and the director’s cut is the film the director set out to make from the beginning so i kind of wish people would give BvS a chance with the UE because if that was the version we saw in theatres then i think people would have appreciated it ALOT more......hopefully when ZSJL hits HBO max everyone will watch that version and be blown away!
Agree with 99.9% of what you said. Only thing I disagree on is he’s never “Superman” I’m this moving, he’s just a man with superpowers. This movie is the beginning of CLARK’S journey to eventually become SUPERMAN.
I don’t think he fully becomes Superman until he sacrifices himself to save the world in BvS. And going forward, after his resurrection, he becomes the Superman everyone knows and loves. The Superman people complained he wasn’t in the first two films. I think they missed that he didn’t quite become Superman yet. This is Clark with superpowers.
I think he was Superman briefly at the end of MOS. But I feel he quickly lost hope in that in BVS. He even said that Superman was never real in BVS. So he just needed to find his hope/motivation again because he felt like no one fully appreciated him. So perhaps that was his full character arc at the end of bvs where he finds that saving people is worth it even though people will always complain or there will be collateral damage.
Thank You so much for making this video, I love this film and have exactly like you been singing its praises since the moment I walked out of that cinema in 2013.
Zod is also one of the most underrated villains ever. As he kneels in the ash and rubble of the birthing pods I can't help but feel sympathy for him every time even though I know what terrible actions he would have taken against humanity, the idea of saving your people is a universal one.
Could not agree more with this. The more I watch it, the better it gets to me.
People complain about not only this film but DC in general being very Dark but can I say that I prefer DC being Dark over the lighthearted and joking matter of the MCU which I am honestly getting a little tired of. Henry Cavill was the reason I started liking Superman and why I actually really like Superman now where for the longest time I hated him because Henry Cavill's Superman I saw that he wasn't Mr. Perfect and what made me like this superman and superman in general.
This was a really great movie and I will say Dark DC is better than being jokingly and lighthearted and I have seen myself become more of DC fan instead of a Marvel fan personally
Yes dark is better
It is very curious how this movie has great values behind it and the only thing people talk about is the "holes" it has
then marvel puts out the same movie three times and everyone applauds
I think that partially has to do with the differing tones that the movies set. Man of Steel is a pretty somber film that takes itself pretty seriously, while Marvel movies tend to go with a pretty light-hearted tone. When a movie takes itself seriously, it's inviting the audience to also take it seriously. When films have a more light hearted and often comedic tone, they don't invite the same level of criticism.
Captain America Civil War has some massive "holes" when you consider some of the timing and logistics of the movie. But audiences didn't really care because it's more fun to watch Spider-Man making quips than it is to watch Vision immediately incapacitate everyone on the opposing side. Man of Steel doesn't have the same veneer of playful fun, and so audiences aren't as willing to just write off their issues with the movie.
@@talllankywhiteboy thats actually very good analysis. It makes sense. But still quality wise man of steel >>> any mcu film for me.
100% the most underrated superhero movie ever. Such a shame there was no true sequel.
The movie had a great correlation to the Earth One comic story line. I am huge Superman fan and absolutely love MoS. The cast is superb. I believe that Kevin Costner and Diane Lane are absolutely stunning as Jonathan and Martha Kent. The beliefs and fears that Jonathan Kent has regarding the Earth's reactions to Clark/Superman are true and realistically grounded. The conversation with the Kents and the child's mother after the bus incident drive this point home. Then again the reactions of the priest later during his conversation with Clark. You can see the emotion on the priest and how he is reacting knowing that he is talking to an alien. Thanks John for the video. I couldn't agree more
Man of steel in my eyes is just as good as infinity war, General Zod was one of the most righteous & menacing villains we have ever seen on the big screen, he is up Their with Thanos, Joker & Darth Vader!
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Man of steel was the film that totally changed my opinion on Superman, I absolutely love this film & have become a superman fan ever since 👊
That's what I hear most from supporters of Man of Steel. "I never really liked the character until seeing this movie".
Well, yeah. There is a reason for that. It was made by someone who didn't like the character. Someone who wrote it to be more along the lines of what he would enjoy instead of staying true to what he is supposed to be. Its like saying I wasn't an Abe Lincoln fan until seeing the movie were he fought vampires.
John often says the decisions made in the movie were right for the story.. But when the person making the movie goes into it saying "if I'm going to make a Superman movie, I want a fight that leaves thousands dead and has Superman kill", then yeah, he's going to write ways for that to happen. But its completely missing the point. Thousands of Superhero stories get to a point where it looks like the hero is going to have to go against his beliefs or fail or lose. The finding a way not to is what makes them better. "Clark HAD to let Jonathan die", "It was Superman's first day".. Well, Goliath would of course beat David. But the good storyteller shows how David does the impossible. If this movie didn't make it clear Snyder would rather progress the story than have Clark be the hero that every other hero that comes after looks up to because he ALWAYS finds a way, BvS hammers it home. Scenes like him walking out of the burning courthouse moping instead of springing into action putting out the fire or looking for people to help shows he doesn't get the character.
Thanks for saying this .
The movie was ahead its time
I totally agree that this is one of the most underrated superhero movies I have seen. Every time I watch it I enjoy it more. The music is incredible, the tone is appropriate, the acting is above average, the effects and action are entertaining. Great points in the video.
Man, I remember seeing Man of Steel, opening night at the Lincoln Square IMAX in NY and having a “holy shit” moment when seeing Krypton for the very first time....the movie blew me away (for so many different reasons) and is definitely one of my favorite superhero movies of all time :D
Man of steel is a masterpiece! love the movie
The most underrated comic book movie ever. I cant watch this movie over and over and i still find it amazing.
This movie just came out at the wrong time.
M.O.S. is great. I thank Zack Snyder for bringing us his vision of a more modern, realistic Superman. Maybe it was TOO modern and cynical for some, but I appreciated this interpretation. Henry Cavill, under a lot of pressure to live up to the character and Christopher Reeve's iconic portrayal, did a great job. An amazing score by Hans Zimmer puts the icing on the cake.
Michael Shannon is one of the best villains in a comic book movie
"I WILL FIND HIM!!" Gooooood...gives me chills every time, yo!
@@pyrricloser4203 And he did find him!
And most underrated.
You are right, the movie was a masterpiece, some people this day lack of emotional empathy they wanna see only punches and action on the entire duration of the movie but going deep inside the emotions and human side of this heroes makes the movies 10 times greater.