I actually saw the Ultimate Edition 1st and thought “what’s everybody’s problem?” Then I saw the theatrical cut and understood. The UE is definitely a superior film.
I have lost count on people I have had discussions with these 4 years that cry and complain, and then its revealed they have not even seen the ultimate cut, but complains about things that is FIXED in it...
@@The80sWolf_ I mean you can't blame them, theatrical cut will always be the one that people remember it for. Just like Daredevil 2003, the director's cut was better but it was relatively known that Daredevil 2003 sucked because the theatrical was the version most people watched. And to be honest it is not our obligation to watch a director's cut of a film. Director's cut, like Jeremy said, are meant to be an extension of an already great film and not a damage control for whatever mess a director made by cutting parts that leaves the final film incoherent.
What are you talking about? It’s still trash. The UE, doesn’t erase that stupid Martha scene, doesn’t erase Lex Luthor acting like peewee Herman, that Lex belongs to Batman forever and Batman and Robin movie 😂. The ending was so dumb and anticlimactic, just so superman comes back from the dead the next movie, so died for nothing, just a stupid plot device. Also the fact that Lex Luthor releases a doomsday, not being able to control him, did he just assume that they will be killing each other 😂, what if doomsday killed Superman and he’s still alive, what is Lex gonna do? The movie is so dumb, they killed Jimmy Olsen in 10 seconds. Superman is a depressed emo, he cries about everything, he says he’s no hero and it’s just a dream, wow what a stupid movie misunderstanding all these iconic characters. Batman is nothing but a stone cold killer and yet let’s superman go cuz he has a mommy named Martha.
hewhoisthere I can easily. It makes no sense. Half of the movie is Batman saying superman is dangerous, he killed thousands of people, and that he needs to be stopped, blamed him for all the destructions, cuz all these were facts. Not only that, he then sees a future where Superman is the villain, and later on Flash saying he was right about Superman all along, and yet this dumb Batman forgets all about that cuz marthaaaaaaaaaaaa. He Kills people before and after that martha scene but let’s go of Superman and becomes bffs, Why? Because his mommy shares same mommy name, so he must be good 😂. Anyone that defends this dog shit movie is an idiot.
@@Jupiter.141 Well for one it connects and scenes makes sense more for people average person so would oh this dont make sense (not to bright ones). I MUCH BETTER NARRATIVE that even little minds might understand
The "Ultimate" edition just makes the stupid parts slightly less stupid and the pointless subplots less pointless. The movie overall is still filled with bad ideas that didn't need to be there. It's still fucking incompetent.
Don't like the term head and shoulder but you're right. It made the story more understandable, the motivation more clear. For people with amazing comprehension, it's a treat. Don't recommend this kind of movie for kids coz its story driven.
BVS was not the plan to begin with it was going to be Man of Steel 2 but because DC set the bar so high for how much money they wanted to make we got this. Then they wanted to move on from Snyder movies so they change Justice League too.
The shank scene orchestrated by Luthor to further drive the "bat brand death sentence" angle, the burning of the bodies in the desert incident, when the witness from the desert incident comes clean and her murder to cover it up, and so much more. I actually liked the theatrical cut but all the investigative pieces in the beginning of the UE really drove the story, it should not have been omitted
@kehef sherwani I think you can get it digitally if you have any prime devices that connect to your tv, or an gaming device, or you could try finding it in any store with a dvd section.
Dude I was actually very impressed with affleck as Batman. He looked the part. The suits he wore were awesome. He looked big like Batman should. Bat ears on his mask were short which made his neck look bigger which in turn made his traps look bigger and so on and so forth. Wore black around his eyes to make his eyes look intimidating and pop. So much better than the others. Multiple outfits including the trench coat and goggles, also robot suit. Voice simulator was way cooler than bales bat accent. The way he moved when he fought, and crawled around the ceiling. By far the best Batman interpretation yet in my opinion. But best Batman movie(s) still go to Nolan.
His batman is fine but look at G-force/ gatchaman. I think that's how batman should look. Lithe. Which is how every batman has looked like usually except DKR inspired ones and Bruce Timm inspired ones.
I agree whole heartedly with this comment review👌🏻 I said it from the first day Ben Affleck was cast that he would be the best Batman we have had yet and it just made sense. No one agreed with me at the time, but since then I have happily told all of my friends “I told you so” 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
R.A.s Reviews Keaton was the first time people got introduced to Batman in movie mainstream. Also that movie was comical and not meant to be a realistic take.
@@eanderson9599 That's fair, I've seen him on different RUclips channels with his full body. His sneaker game could use some work. I love em, but it's true
Gotta love Pre-2018 WB management. It was full of terrible decisions like removing 30 minutes from BvS making it choppy so that it could play more times in theaters than a 3 hour movie could
@@tae_.2644 Jesse is very , how do I put this . . . , bizarre. If looked at in a vacuum yes he’s ok I guess. Reminds me of some looney tunes characters at times though. Seeing lex in the animated series, comics, and a few t.v. Show appearances he can be both cunning, threatening, and oddly charming. This performance is barely that 😅
@@tae_.2644 the Martha scene was probably one of the most made fun of scenes since the film came onto theaters. I know what they were going for here but I just couldn’t buy that all it took for them to be instant friends was having shared the same mother’s name. Oh and then there’s the doomsday reveal which should have been it’s own movie for a later sequel. Also the fact they killed off Superman BEFORE the justice league was established (seriously he only had one movie) would have had the iconic funeral where all the heroes and some villains paying respect to an iconic heroes demise. Ok now I’m upset this film gets a 4/10 now.
@@camerapunk4109 The Martha scene wasn't based around Batman and Superman sharing the same mother's name, it was basically humanizing Superman for batman. He basically thinks Clark is an Alien who doesn't feel anything human, so he just sees him as an Alien threat. This is Batman's way of directly killing Clark. In BvS he indirectly kills, like Snyder said. It's also what Batman thinks "They shouldn't have been in the car when I blew it up.". "They shouldn't have been in the room where I threw the grenade". So this was a big deal for him. He made Clark seem like an Alien that had no feeling. But when he realizes he has a Mother, which is human and named Marth, his PTSD kicks in and he realizes that he's going to do the same thing he's been fighting against. And his senses kick in, he tries to make it right in the end of BvS. Its alright that you mistook the scene for just having the same name.
@@ManpreetKaur-tr6bz you can rent it on Google play store, Vudu, Microsoft Movies and TV, just search for "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (ultimate edition). It even may be on the new HBO Max streaming service but I'm not 100% sure.
Ive watched Irishman and the godfather movies same here but when it comes to supe movies it gets tiring not just ultimate edition of bvs even endgame felt long
Movie goers: "ooh I don't want to sit through a 3 hour movie. That's so long wtf?" Also movie goers: *Goes home and binge watches a whole season of a show on Netflix in a day*
WB thought people didn’t want to sit through 3 hours of this or even longer for JL. Then Marvel drops a couple of 3-hour Avengers flicks and rakes in the cash. This is why a whole bunch of people got canned and perhaps might be why AT&T is seemingly reforming the Snyderverse.
Gonna sound like a snobby asshole but I don't like most TV shows because they feel bloated with lots of filler on a smaller budget whereas movies get to the point with a higher production value. Also TV shows seem like a way for new actors to raise their profile but with that comes tons of overacting whereas big movie stars have already made it and performances seem less forced. Not saying TV shows can't be good but I really struggle to engage with them, I'd rather binge video games.
The "Ultimate" edition just makes the stupid parts slightly less stupid and the pointless subplots less pointless. The movie overall is still filled with bad ideas that didn't need to be there. It's still fucking incompetent.
I think thats a funny thought. Bryan Cranston played Walter White who went by the alias Heisenberg. His partner in crime was none other than someone named Jesse. Remove the H from Heisenberg and you are left with Eisenberg. Jesse Eisenberg. Cool coincidence, really
@@devanshtrivedi3905 It's on Amazon and it's on Netflix. I believe the Ultimate edition is the only edition you'll find anyway as it's the best version and most streaming sites wouldn't try to get the license for the worst version of a show.
The ultimate version actually feels a lot shorter. Even with the 30min extra, it's probably because the flow is better. It's also intense AF sometimes, the whole Africa scene was great on the ultimate.
@@davidvillainy8660 If anything it shows how much different Batman is in his later years. The Batman is much sloppier and more violent in terms how he beats the one guy. Batfleck retains the brutality but he does it faster and shows the way he moves he doesn't have time to deal with common thugs which makes since and shows the difference in the ages and universes.
3AM Beats to be honest, i have only put the theatrical cut disc in the ps4 to watch the bonus material. Because all the bonus features are on the theatrical cut disc. Whenever i watch the movie its always the ultimate edition.
Things like this frustrate me. It’s like why didn’t you do this in the first place. It proves these executives have no idea what their doing. I am 100% positive the Snyder cut of Justice league is going to be 1000x’s better
Absolutely! I remember watching this cut and, within the first 5 minutes yelled at the screen "why did they cut this out!?". Like Jeremy said, there's still issues, but so many of the plot holes are fixed with the Ultimate Edition that, like you, it just frustrates me when executives put their noses in creative endeavors like this only to make it a worse product than its original version.
yeah, I know right? Like did you read the Collin Trevorrow script for Episode IX? Duel of the Fates is infinitely better than Rise of Skywalker...but Bob Iger and the execs at Disney were too stupid and said it was too risky...now I doubt JJ Abrams will ever work for them again...if that's the case maybe we have a chance now of a JJ Abrams directed Superman movie...plus Henry Cavill's returning to the role so that'll make it a double win.
Same dude. My first experience with "The Watchmen" was ALSO the Director's Cut, I'm happy to say haha. After seeing that, I knew I had to wait for the blu ray!
I actually appreciated Eisenberg's luthor after the Ultimate edition. Because I realized that his spastic persona is just an act. A way to make people see him as just an eccentric billionaire daddy's boy, and avert attention from his plan This becomes obvious if you listen to the tone of his voice. It's actually deeper when he is his "true" self And he even says it in the end "I'm crazy. I'm not even fit to stand to trial"
One thing I loved about the Ultimate Edition as well is that the whole Senate hearing, and witnesses were fleshed out more and it showed more about Lex's plan.
The theatrical didn’t really explain about Lex putting a bomb in Wally’s chair, did it? I know it didn’t explain Clark being unable to see through it even if he had tried.
@@michaelbuckelew It was, but it was really quick. The Extended Cut's more deliberate pacing draws more attention to it, letting you sit the information as the scene progresses. It is really hard for an audience to retain info when they aren't given enough time to digest it.
I think we've become more accepting of BVS is because we all had preconceived notions of what it should have been. Now that it's years later we're more accepting of it.
The extended edition of BvS is actually the first version of the movie I saw and when I saw the theatrical cut I couldn’t finish watching it because it felt off and like so much was missing. So I will say the extended edition was better.
To be honest, I watched both; but first the theatrical. And while some of the investigation threads were more fleshed out, the premise ends weakly. IE: The batman-superman fight that loses a lot of impact when you think about any of the motives there at that time; and of which HISHE poked many holes in. And the investigation wasn't even that interesting; making it 30 minutes of hoh-hum, added in with a lot of boredom already; and I am sleeping through that movie, until the two different finales. Which were brain-dead anyway; but at least the visuals were kinda cool. But not even in the same category as something like MoS, Wonder Woman, or Aquaman.
i think the point is ur first impression of it, no matter which version u watch 1st, u will never go back. i watched the 3 hours version 1st and felt naked when i watch the theatrical one when they show it on TV. For me this movie is 9/10
@@punchforpound2808 Why would they bother doing an extended edition or directors cut if they aren't going to make more money from it? If Netflix or Cable are the only way you get your movies then there is a lot of movies you'll never see.
There's a scene in the ultimate edition that gives me chills every time. After the wheel chair explosion, Alfred is seen chopping wood. He obviously isn't aware of what's happened, but the eerie score plays. He walks in and calls out to Bruce, only to see the news report on the TV covering the explosion and Superman's suspected involvement and the red taunt notes addressed to Bruce, he looks through the window knowing damn well what this has done to Bruce's already declining mental state. In most incarnations and comics, Alfred is present whenever Bruce suits up and leaves. This is the first time that Bruce is so enraged that he leaves without notifying Alfred. The rage has alienated Bruce from even Alfred.
This is exactly what I've been thinking since the ultimate cut released. And I think, as a whole, people wasn't really aware about Alfred. In the other side, WB really fucked BvS including Jeremy Iron's portrayal of Alfred.
@@Deadpool-yn9mg I enjoyed BvS for what it was...a superhero movie with iconic characters!!! Was it great? No, but it was fun. I feel it gets unfair criticism, and I feel the same with Justice League!
I too only saw the longer cut. When I found out the differences I thought, "yeah, that was terrible". Still wasn't a fan of the movie though and now I'm preparing to get called a "Marvel Fan Boy" when I probably won't like the Snyder Cut of JL.
I like it a lot. Granted, I don't think it's masterpiece", but it doesn't have to be. I enjoy it, and like Snyder's vision of these characters. Can't wait to see his JL on HBO Max.
Yeah everyone but lex is fine I just don't understand why Snyder wanted Jesse Eisenberg so bad for his movie like he's a good actor but he wanted him for Jimmy Olsen and turned him into Lex Luthor since Jesse didn't want a small role. But that's my only problem with the casting choice.
See Jesse is my favorite lex luthor ever but I know I’m in the minority but I’m in the extra minority because even people who like the movie like me usually say they didn’t like eisenberg
kudos to those snyder fanboys who refused to acknowledge the problems of this movie, and straight say it's a "masterpiece" Lol. like they don't even say "it's my opinion", they literally say it's a masterpiece and whoever don't agree with them, then by their logic, those people are stupid
Nope, a fan edit called "Batman v Superman: No Justice " is best, it's only about the conflict between Bats and Sups. Wonder Women, Doomsday and anything related to Justice League are cut.
Trisolaris I need to watch this version because WW, Doomsday and Lex are really the worst parts but now it just sounds like you are describing The Dark Knight Returns which gave a much better reason why Batman and Superman would fight in the first place. Synder just wanted a darker and older Batman instead of thinking how it would make sense plot wise.
I love the Ultimate Edition. That added footage makes a difference. I had some of the same problems with the film as you did. For example: Framing Superman didn't make much sense in the theatrical cut. Using the flamethrowers though makes more sense though because you could blame it on his heat vision, and it adds to the scene that happens later when Batman saves Martha by blowing up KGBeast's flamethrower. It's totally a more cohesive film. The only way the theatrical cut can be watched is with the help of Rifftrax.
Agreed, I didn't really mind it when I saw it in theaters but ever since the UE was released I refuse to ever watch the theatrical version again because it's not the full movie
I'm suddenly coming into this phase where I'm distant from any Marvel thing and going to back to DC and yeah this film looks like a breath of fresh air. :D
If you could post pictures on RUclips, it would be so scuffed. Would just be spam of cancer, terrible memes and loads of NSFW content. No doubt a 13 year old will post a dick pick on a teenage girls make up tutorial or something. Granted a gif feature would be much appreciated
The movie actually revealed much darker side of humanity (though Superman was not human, lol). It showed the world, how desperate men can be when the situation is against them. I really sometimes feel this for real. I'm from India, and it is no surprise that people here still believe in castism. There are several religious stereotype. What our government does, make different communities fight against one another, making big issues out of small things, media shows the same crap in the entire country, which in turn raises rage amongst other part of the country too. Govt. does all this shit just to deviate focus of the citizen from real issues like economy and hunger. PS: Corona virus pandemic was related with religion at first; yeah, it's true. Edit: Thank you guys for understanding what I'm trying to convey, and supporting me for the same. Love you guys and once again, thank you very much.
Spot on brother. Agree a 100%. About the movie and the state of our country right now. And it’s equally sad that we have people of different nationalities claiming it’s not so different for them as well. It’s like Zack Snyder knew...
Batman wearing a bat costume is a superhero trope not evidence that he is insane. Are you a psychologist?? Bruce Wayne didn’t decide to walk-or swoop-around the streets of Gotham in a bat costume because he actually thought he was a bat. Wayne started dressing as Batman because he had a specific purpose in mind: to disguise his identity when he fought criminals. Sounds like a good idea to me, and one that is used by military personnel when necessary (though not the bat part). Wayne also wanted his disguise to serve another function: to evoke fear in criminals.
@@Ukaran That's the genius of Snyder's arc for Batman. BvS was his redemption story. He projected his flaw of becoming the worst version of himself onto Superman, Lex making it easier for Batman to do that by framing Superman with crimes against humanity (Capitol explosion and African village massacre). At Superman's funeral, Bruce says to Diana, "I failed him in his life. i won't fail him in his death." The Batman in Justice League will be the pragmatic, patient, tactical genius from his earlier years :)
@@BabyYodie And that would be fine and dandy, if BvS wasn't only the SECOND movie in the franchise, and didn't INTRODUCE Batman into the story. You don't introduce an iconic and beloved character into a story, by making him/her act completely different from what people expect.
It's most likely Snyder's fault. If his contract mention how long the movie should be, then he should make it good in that duration. Other dceu movies can be good without extended edition. Lotr theatrical version is still good although extended version is better.
@@nazrey8910 A lot of directors don't think that long ahead, and just put their trust in those money hungry execs to not chop up their finished work just so it can have more screenings at the cinemas
It never will be, unfortinately. For whatever reason they NEVER have the "Director's Cut" version of films ie. The Abyss, Watchmen, Kingdom of Heaven, Aliens, etc. etc.
I LOVE the final interaction between Batman and Lex. Lex: “this is how it all CAVES in... civilization on the wane/WAYNE... manners/MANOR out the window..” and then Batman retorts by telling Lex he’s sending him to Arkham asylum 😳
I thought the interaction with the senator about gods falling from the sky and whatnot was also outstanding. Jessie's portrayal may have been all over the place, but when he hit, it was really good.
I’m one of the rare people who actually liked eisenberg, but after watching supergirl season four I think cryer would have been a huge upgrade ( especially if he played him the same way he did in supergirl)
One of the things I noticed is the fact that Snyder, whenever he makes a superhero flick, takes a lot of time establishing the story and the characters. Not that there's anything wrong with that but the studios think from a financial standpoint that no one would want to sit for more than 3 hrs. This case is different with justice league but if he hadn't left the project, the studio still wouldve cut down lots of stuff as now we know, his version is 4 hrs long .
I never watched the theatrical version but when it came out on BluRay I watched this version straight away and was completely confused on why people hated it! Then years later I watched the theatrical cut I was like... okay, that’s why. This version of BVS is much much better
This movie is still a pile of shit trying to setup so many other movies at the cost of the movie itself. The ultimate edition doesn't really fix anything.
I loved this movie already but the Ultimate Edition is better. I recently watched the animated Dark Knight Returns and then this and was blown away even more by how much Snyder took from it.
What was cut out was the “S” of BvS. Which was an odd decision since this was to be a Man of Steel sequel with a side of Batman, not Batman’s reboot movie. The movie edit only begins to make some sense once the ratios resemble the 50/50 split advertised in the movie title.
They kept Lois though which made no sense, I think it would have made more sense if they clipped Lois and focused on Clark while still showing the bodies being burned by KGBeast and implying that Lois was doing a story on the cover up.
When BvS came out in 2016 I had mostly checked out of CBMs because I was tired of the more comedic direction they were taking. Heard the negative reviews and didn’t check it out in theaters. When the ultimate edition came out on home release I finally gave it a chance and absolutely loved it. Quite possibly my favourite CBM of all time. Never understood the negativity, but then again my first impression with the ultimate edition. Fantastic movie for adult CBM fans. Not necessarily the kind of thing you take little kids to, but there’s a market for adult oriented CBMs as well. Hopefully HBO max is the right place for that type of content to continue.
Warner Bros. was just so scared of releasing a 3 hour long movie, such a dumb move, everybody would've seen it anyway! as we all saw Endgame, regardless of its runtime.
Endgame could have been 4hr long and everyone would have watched it bvs nah...You have to consider an average movie goer...Not the nerds...They are not as interested or invested in the dceu ...Endgame was an end to long list of movies....
Yeah, Ultimate Edition was a hell of a lot better. Watching it just made me sad that the studio buried this. I love DC, all they needed to do was not butcher it for me to be happy. Sigh.
To be fair, I don't think they believed that audiences would want to sit through a 3 hour movie, seeing how lots weren't already on board with Man of Steel. It's like if they released Lord of the Rings director cut instead, would they have confident that the average movie goer would be willing to deviate nearly 3.5 hours in the theater. Long movies kinda have to be earned.
@@christiansanchez2088 That's true - but then the film has to be shot with that time budget in mind. It seems pretty clear this was supposed to fill the 3 hour slot until someone changed their mind. LotR was shot with their 3 hour limit in mind, and they had some extra scenes filmed to play with in editing. The Two Towers is the only one that seems to suffer a bit because of actual substantial cuts within sequences as opposed to self-contained scenes being withheld. Return of the King misses out on the conclusion of Sauruman's arc, but is otherwise fairly whole without the additional content. Batman v Superman ended up being a colossal mess because of how they had to butcher it in the editing room. It's a far worse film than it would have been if it was simply planned and shot around the right length. Hell, look at all the material Snyder had on top of that. It was definitely supposed to take the longer slot at movie theatres right up until they got to editing.
I was unphased. It is a better movie, but you still have a terrible mashup of comic book ideas that shouldn’t be together. Take out doomsday. That storyline should never have intersected with the stand-off between batman and Superman. Make it a little more cheesy and have them team up to arrest Lex Luthor to show each other that they can embrace the rule of law. Batman brings the gadgets, Superman brings the brawn. Or you could just kill two stories at once and fuck up Doomsday and the Superman v Batman standoff.
Box office greed from WB is what ruined the dc universe which stats wise was financialy more successful after 4 films than the mcu after 4 films and they didn't build on that they wanted to copy marvel and we saw the outcome of that
The theatrical cut literally made so little sense, i did not like it when i saw it. But years later, after being a little bit stubborn, i finally watched the ultimate edition, and it is now one of my favorite superhero films. I can n to wait for the Snyder cut!
@@y2kbrae yes u are right , captain america civil war was so bad that i literally cant remember what actually happened in the movie , all i can remember is spidey being tony's lil bitch
When Civil War was on Netflix I watched it one time. I own the ultimate edition of BvS and I even preferred the theatrical cut of the movie over Civil War. I don't remember anything that happened in that movie
I really enjoy the ultimate cut of BvS despite hating the theatrical cut for feeling incomplete, and I’m really looking forward to Zack Snyder’s Justice League... even if it’s just to get the Justice League film that I originally paid for. (By the way, loving the Road Warrior look, Jeremy!)
I love how when it comes to alot of superhero films the directors cut is usually better. both BVS ultimate edition (text looks like it belongs on an Injustice cover) The other was Watchmen.
I think the ultimate edition largely improves the first 2 acts of the film. The third act is still a mess with doomsday, but the film is still improved overall
I completely agree with this. I will always hate the ending. Hated them rushing Doomsday and prematurely killing Superman, but the film overall I enjoy.
I actually like the truncated story arc Snyder was going for. My biggest gripe with Marvel is that they release too many stand-alone films. 80% of them feel like complete filler to me. Also Infinity War > Endgame
@@sm4carnageihope The real doomsday is somewhere in the dcu universe. The one seen in the movie was a bargain version of the OG which is in space somewhere.
It’s not really Doomsday, though, is it? I’m no huge expert, but this creature is Lex taking Zod’s body and using the Kryptonian ship to turn it into a copy of Doomsday.
Sadly a lot of the people who criticized this movie don't read comic books and/or they don't know the different interpretations of these characters, and some are just not open to new interpretations of these characters either. I loved this movie when it first came out and I loved the Ultimate Edition even more! It's a movie that was ahead of it's time, and people are beginning to notice.
@ Diego Clark it’s really not.if Mark Waid was just an actor, or someone who wrote another comic, then I wouldn’t have cared.but he wrote Birthright Lex, which some people use to defend DCEU lex.and if he doesn’t see birthright Lex in Eisenbergs performance, then I got news for you; it isn’t based on birthright Lex. Just because some random people on the internet say “guys it’s based on Birthright Lex” doesn’t mean it is.
Them: Why are you Snyder fans so adamant about the Snyder cut for Justice League? Me: Have you seen his director’s cut of Batman v Superman? Or Watchman for that matter?
@@SuperFlawless2010 I guess the Snydertards are more than anyone else lmao, since they got a million hashtags and trended multiple times worldwide and they are getting the Snyder Cut
I love the martha scene, it moves me because when superman is about to dead, the only thing in the mind of this larger than life godlike person in his dying moment is the safety of his adoptive mother, that made him more human than human to me and that must be the reason why it changed Batman's opinion of him. I don't understand why people hate it so much, does it take a bit of leap of faith than such small act would change the mind of his nemesis so quickly and dramatically, yes, but overall i accepted it.
I watched the ultimate edition and was genuinely shocked at how much more everything made sense and how good it was. I went to look at people's reviews and they were giving it 6-7/10 but to me I thought the ultimate edition was at least 7.5/8. Glad you watched it. Also watching JLU as a kid, and seeing the atrocious portrayal of Lex Luthor in the movie made me not ever want to rewatch it. Honestly what a travesty.
This version of Lex, especially now that we’ve gotten Lex in Supergirl, is going to be ridiculed forever. That’s just the way it is now. It’s as if they didn’t really consult the source material. Lex in JLU, Lex in Smallville and now Lex in Supergirl were miles closer or were nearly identical to my idea of comic Lex it’s insane.
Agreed! Saw the theatrical and thought “yeah it’s okay I guess”, but the UE I honestly really enjoyed and makes me so much more excited for the Snyder Cut of Justice League
I really love this movie, I was confused when I saw the theatrical release but when I saw the ultimate edition it really made me love it. I enjoy zacks movies a lot.
While I got why many people didn't like BvS when it came out, I had a lot of respect for this movie, simply because in a time where a superhero film had to follow the marvel formula to be Releases apperantly, this movie tried to be something very different. In the ultimate edition BvS is a very good movie in my opinion that even though it was meant to be part of a bigger universe could stand on it's own and as a character study of two of the most famous yet very different comic book heroes, if you ignore the very messy conclusion with pseudo doomsday
I actually saw the Ultimate Edition 1st and thought “what’s everybody’s problem?” Then I saw the theatrical cut and understood. The UE is definitely a superior film.
I have lost count on people I have had discussions with these 4 years that cry and complain, and then its revealed they have not even seen the ultimate cut, but complains about things that is FIXED in it...
@@The80sWolf_ I mean you can't blame them, theatrical cut will always be the one that people remember it for. Just like Daredevil 2003, the director's cut was better but it was relatively known that Daredevil 2003 sucked because the theatrical was the version most people watched.
And to be honest it is not our obligation to watch a director's cut of a film. Director's cut, like Jeremy said, are meant to be an extension of an already great film and not a damage control for whatever mess a director made by cutting parts that leaves the final film incoherent.
What are you talking about? It’s still trash. The UE, doesn’t erase that stupid Martha scene, doesn’t erase Lex Luthor acting like peewee Herman, that Lex belongs to Batman forever and Batman and Robin movie 😂. The ending was so dumb and anticlimactic, just so superman comes back from the dead the next movie, so died for nothing, just a stupid plot device. Also the fact that Lex Luthor releases a doomsday, not being able to control him, did he just assume that they will be killing each other 😂, what if doomsday killed Superman and he’s still alive, what is Lex gonna do? The movie is so dumb, they killed Jimmy Olsen in 10 seconds. Superman is a depressed emo, he cries about everything, he says he’s no hero and it’s just a dream, wow what a stupid movie misunderstanding all these iconic characters. Batman is nothing but a stone cold killer and yet let’s superman go cuz he has a mommy named Martha.
Give me link to downlaod UE
Qthetar you’re right but your logic sucks
Warner Bros did Zack Snyder dirty with the theatrical release
LOL honestly
Why it’s still trash. If didn’t erase that stupid martha scene, the ending and all the garbage that was Pee-wee Herman, oops I mean lex Luthor.
@@Qthetar strongly disagree
@@Qthetar The Martha scene is one of the best scenes in the movie. You cannot defend the position that it is bad.
hewhoisthere I can easily. It makes no sense. Half of the movie is Batman saying superman is dangerous, he killed thousands of people, and that he needs to be stopped, blamed him for all the destructions, cuz all these were facts. Not only that, he then sees a future where Superman is the villain, and later on Flash saying he was right about Superman all along, and yet this dumb Batman forgets all about that cuz marthaaaaaaaaaaaa. He Kills people before and after that martha scene but let’s go of Superman and becomes bffs, Why? Because his mommy shares same mommy name, so he must be good 😂. Anyone that defends this dog shit movie is an idiot.
The Ultimate Edition is the only version people should watch
I bought it and that's the only one I watch.
Facts!
What's the difference between the extended version and the ultimate edition?
I still haven't seen the theatrical cut
@@Jupiter.141 Well for one it connects and scenes makes sense more for people average person so would oh this dont make sense (not to bright ones). I MUCH BETTER NARRATIVE that even little minds might understand
The Ultimate Edition was head and shoulders above the theatrical release. Everything made so much more sense with the extra 30 minutes of footage.
Nah
The "Ultimate" edition just makes the stupid parts slightly less stupid and the pointless subplots less pointless. The movie overall is still filled with bad ideas that didn't need to be there. It's still fucking incompetent.
Brad Harrell Yeah I changed my view of Batman v. Superman after I watched the Ultimate Edition and it made way more sense.
Don't like the term head and shoulder but you're right. It made the story more understandable, the motivation more clear. For people with amazing comprehension, it's a treat. Don't recommend this kind of movie for kids coz its story driven.
@@VVVY777 straight up facts
This should have been the version released in theaters. Yes, it’s long, but it’s sooooo much better.
It just flows so much better. It actually feels shorter.
But obviously people actually want a worse movie thats shorter 🙄
Wouldn’t have made a difference.
BVS was not the plan to begin with it was going to be Man of Steel 2 but because DC set the bar so high for how much money they wanted to make we got this. Then they wanted to move on from Snyder movies so they change Justice League too.
Tom Simmons I noticed that back when I watched it
I enjoyed the theatrical cut but when I saw the ultimate cut my reaction was "why would you cut any of this out?!"
The shank scene orchestrated by Luthor to further drive the "bat brand death sentence" angle, the burning of the bodies in the desert incident, when the witness from the desert incident comes clean and her murder to cover it up, and so much more. I actually liked the theatrical cut but all the investigative pieces in the beginning of the UE really drove the story, it should not have been omitted
Blame WB
@kehef sherwani I think you can get it digitally if you have any prime devices that connect to your tv, or an gaming device, or you could try finding it in any store with a dvd section.
@kehef sherwani any version of the blu ray. You can rent it on basically any platform as well like RUclips, Google play, Amazon prime.
@kehef sherwani if you want to watch for free you can download from 1337x site
Your hair is nearing its ultimate edition Jeremy
Like Jon Wick's?
Why is Phillip Solo reviewing movies?
Future generations will call it the "Jahns Cut"
This was hilarious! 😅
Funny how he doesn't really like the Luthor in the film yet watching Jahns is similar to watching Eisenberg spazzing around lol
Dude I was actually very impressed with affleck as Batman. He looked the part. The suits he wore were awesome. He looked big like Batman should. Bat ears on his mask were short which made his neck look bigger which in turn made his traps look bigger and so on and so forth. Wore black around his eyes to make his eyes look intimidating and pop. So much better than the others. Multiple outfits including the trench coat and goggles, also robot suit. Voice simulator was way cooler than bales bat accent. The way he moved when he fought, and crawled around the ceiling. By far the best Batman interpretation yet in my opinion. But best Batman movie(s) still go to Nolan.
People hate him cuz he kills.
Moon Truther i find that ridiculous considering they love keaton and he was slitting peoples throats
His batman is fine but look at G-force/ gatchaman. I think that's how batman should look. Lithe. Which is how every batman has looked like usually except DKR inspired ones and Bruce Timm inspired ones.
I agree whole heartedly with this comment review👌🏻 I said it from the first day Ben Affleck was cast that he would be the best Batman we have had yet and it just made sense. No one agreed with me at the time, but since then I have happily told all of my friends “I told you so” 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
R.A.s Reviews Keaton was the first time people got introduced to Batman in movie mainstream. Also that movie was comical and not meant to be a realistic take.
Hands down, Jeremy has won the contest on best quarantine style. From the hair to the beard to the leather. Head to toe it's a masterpiece.
How can you say head to toe when you only see him from the chest up?
I call this look...The Keanu lol
agreed XD
Ha! That’s what I said! Looks great
@@eanderson9599 That's fair, I've seen him on different RUclips channels with his full body. His sneaker game could use some work. I love em, but it's true
More than breaking him, 2020 turned regular old jeremy into wise old man jeremy. Worn and weatherd... i'm a fan, anyone else?
He’s like Obi-Wan now
Yep!
Old Man Jeremy Comic?
I’d read it
I just realized the new hairstyle is because you can't get a haircut
Jeremy Johns Wick
It’s frustrating that this was not the movie that we got.
Rather have a 3 hour movie that's enjoyable than a 2 hour movie that's forgettable and feels like a 4 hour movie
Gotta love Pre-2018 WB management. It was full of terrible decisions like removing 30 minutes from BvS making it choppy so that it could play more times in theaters than a 3 hour movie could
No im pretty ok with the theatrical cut being mercifully shorter. Another half hour of that shit would of killed me.
Doesn't add much though. Most of its flaws are still there, but it replaces the choppy flaw with it being too long
@@sheadoherty7434 Exactly. And some of what was added was trivial.
"I saw Ben Affleck's ass! I guess Batman v Superman is a great movie now!"
Theatrical is a 6/10
Ultimate edition is a 9/10
Crazy how much context they really cut out
7/10 due to Jesse Eisenburg and Martha scene 😆
@@camerapunk4109 I don't see anything wrong with them. Can you explain to me why you don't like them?
@@tae_.2644 Jesse is very , how do I put this . . . , bizarre. If looked at in a vacuum yes he’s ok I guess. Reminds me of some looney tunes characters at times though. Seeing lex in the animated series, comics, and a few t.v. Show appearances he can be both cunning, threatening, and oddly charming. This performance is barely that 😅
@@tae_.2644 the Martha scene was probably one of the most made fun of scenes since the film came onto theaters. I know what they were going for here but I just couldn’t buy that all it took for them to be instant friends was having shared the same mother’s name. Oh and then there’s the doomsday reveal which should have been it’s own movie for a later sequel. Also the fact they killed off Superman BEFORE the justice league was established (seriously he only had one movie) would have had the iconic funeral where all the heroes and some villains paying respect to an iconic heroes demise. Ok now I’m upset this film gets a 4/10 now.
@@camerapunk4109 The Martha scene wasn't based around Batman and Superman sharing the same mother's name, it was basically humanizing Superman for batman. He basically thinks Clark is an Alien who doesn't feel anything human, so he just sees him as an Alien threat. This is Batman's way of directly killing Clark. In BvS he indirectly kills, like Snyder said. It's also what Batman thinks "They shouldn't have been in the car when I blew it up.". "They shouldn't have been in the room where I threw the grenade". So this was a big deal for him. He made Clark seem like an Alien that had no feeling. But when he realizes he has a Mother, which is human and named Marth, his PTSD kicks in and he realizes that he's going to do the same thing he's been fighting against. And his senses kick in, he tries to make it right in the end of BvS. Its alright that you mistook the scene for just having the same name.
Jeremy 4 years ago looks like 2000s Keanu, now he's John Wick Keanu
Bruh
More like Seneca Crane
Or better yet, Jeremy Jahns Wick.
Calm down
Jeremy's hair ACTUALLY looks like a bike helmet from certain angles.
It’s in the awkward phase man. I was there two years ago and looking back at my old pics and at Jeremy’s hair now...
You right 😂😂😂
I saw the thumbnail and thought "why is he wearing a fedora, is this one of his weird alternate universe reviews?"
Mr. Ferny yep, and no matter how much my hair grows I feel like it’s always in the awkward phase
I think he’s keeping it in a hair net.
It's gonna look gorgeous if he let's it grow out all the way.
The Ultimate edition definitely made it a better movie. I wish this is what we had when it was in theaters.
Fo sho
Where can i watch or download it? Pls help.
@@ManpreetKaur-tr6bz you can rent it on Google play store, Vudu, Microsoft Movies and TV, just search for "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice (ultimate edition). It even may be on the new HBO Max streaming service but I'm not 100% sure.
@@ericpalmer3664 ok! Thanks!
Eric Palmer made it from a dog shit, to a t-1 day!
I’ve rewatched Lord of the Rings multiple times. 3 hours is nothing.
Same effect, only I watched Avengers: Endgame and it felt like half its running time.
Same hahaha the extended cuts !!
Ive watched Irishman and the godfather movies same here but when it comes to supe movies it gets tiring not just ultimate edition of bvs even endgame felt long
@TMTK1348 lol
@TMTK 1348 you cut deep
I felt attacked
Movie goers: "ooh I don't want to sit through a 3 hour movie. That's so long wtf?"
Also movie goers: *Goes home and binge watches a whole season of a show on Netflix in a day*
WB thought people didn’t want to sit through 3 hours of this or even longer for JL. Then Marvel drops a couple of 3-hour Avengers flicks and rakes in the cash.
This is why a whole bunch of people got canned and perhaps might be why AT&T is seemingly reforming the Snyderverse.
InshalMusic Tell that to Endgame lol
Gonna sound like a snobby asshole but I don't like most TV shows because they feel bloated with lots of filler on a smaller budget whereas movies get to the point with a higher production value. Also TV shows seem like a way for new actors to raise their profile but with that comes tons of overacting whereas big movie stars have already made it and performances seem less forced. Not saying TV shows can't be good but I really struggle to engage with them, I'd rather binge video games.
I mean, watching a show at home on your couch in pjs isn't the same as sitting at a theater
@@inshalmusic this is the major contributing factor, rest is hogwash
The extra 30 minutes help set up the movie's conflicts better.
Where can i watch or download it? Pls help.
@@ManpreetKaur-tr6bz go buy it you bum
BlueFacondor some apps or websites don’t let you download it. That’s why he asked where to download it
FrightzFriez I think he’s saying to just buy it like the DVD, Blu Ray, or 4K disc
The "Ultimate" edition just makes the stupid parts slightly less stupid and the pointless subplots less pointless. The movie overall is still filled with bad ideas that didn't need to be there. It's still fucking incompetent.
If you’re a movie reviewer, you should never neglect director’s cut of any movie
Amen
Hells yeah!
Kingdom of Heaven taught me that.
That’s an ignorant comment
Directors cuts don’t make any movies better
Loooooool this video killed me because I always imagine Bryan Cranston saying Eisenberg’s lines 🤣🤣🤣 great review
Heavy Spoilers love your content
But actually, Eisenberg's cast is appropriate within the world that Snyder creates and the story he tells.
FilmPalace
And that's exactly why we keep telling you people, again and again, that Snyder doesn't understand these characters!!!
Bryan Cranston as Lex Luthor would have been a dream casting
I think thats a funny thought. Bryan Cranston played Walter White who went by the alias Heisenberg. His partner in crime was none other than someone named Jesse. Remove the H from Heisenberg and you are left with Eisenberg. Jesse Eisenberg. Cool coincidence, really
The Ultimate edition is the version I watch anytime I rewatch the movie, I think that extra footage makes it so much better
Where are u finding it brother?...is it on Netflix or amazon?...can you please tell?
Yeah true
@@devanshtrivedi3905 It's on Amazon and it's on Netflix. I believe the Ultimate edition is the only edition you'll find anyway as it's the best version and most streaming sites wouldn't try to get the license for the worst version of a show.
Devansh Trivedi Blu-ray Copy
The ultimate version actually feels a lot shorter. Even with the 30min extra, it's probably because the flow is better. It's also intense AF sometimes, the whole Africa scene was great on the ultimate.
So true.
Yup. True. It keeps us interest to stay n follow the story
Shit, I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Glad I'm not, this is too true!!!
Is their extra wonder woman footage? Thats all i care about
flipk not really. Pretty much everything for her was in the theatrical version since most of it is action.
That batman warehouse fight is the most badass scene ever filmed for a batman movie 💯
Totally agree. Just rewatched my owned copy. Underrated movie and better than Justice League.
Man, watch how Batman beats a guy in the new teaser
Torika Gomutsutchi you’re saying that a year before the new movie comes out. You don’t know shit yet, so let’s sit back and see
Except for the fact that he murders people with no regard at all.
@@davidvillainy8660 If anything it shows how much different Batman is in his later years. The Batman is much sloppier and more violent in terms how he beats the one guy. Batfleck retains the brutality but he does it faster and shows the way he moves he doesn't have time to deal with common thugs which makes since and shows the difference in the ages and universes.
Ultimate edition was legendary this movie is underrated 😍
Underrated 💔*
🔥
It was just as shitty as the theatrical release
@@JudeMarchisio found the mcutard
I personally think the movie was still garbage. Better, not a lot better though
"they will stumble, they will fall, but in time, they will join you in the sun"
Sums up Zack Snyder perfectly
💯🙌💙
Exactly 👌💙
love it
🙏
The Ultimate Edition is the actual movie, I'm glad you realize that.
Yup everyone threw their wb theatre cuts in garbage years ago
3AM Beats to be honest, i have only put the theatrical cut disc in the ps4 to watch the bonus material. Because all the bonus features are on the theatrical cut disc. Whenever i watch the movie its always the ultimate edition.
Agreed
Didn’t really change how shit the story is tho
Rhakesh G what? BvS was attacked for his plot holes, but not for the story itself
The old hair from that clip that he showed and the new hair from this new videos is both a Keanu Reeves like hair.
THANK YOU
Yeah he has that John Wick vibe going on right now lol
What if this IS Keanu Reeves and he's putting on a different voice 👀
@@jkjezzer It's...Keanu Conspiracy!
He looks like Keanu Reaves simple little brother
Tbh for me, the Ultimate Edition of BVS is one of the best comic book movies ever made.
No.
@@jyotiskoghosh8529 He said for him. Doesn't have to be for you.
@@mattboy2313 I'm speaking for myself.
@@jyotiskoghosh8529 Then phrase it better next time.
Definitely. It's gonna age like wine. Just so unfortunate how it was released in the peak of Marvel's fame. WB fucked up on so many levels. Lol.
Things like this frustrate me. It’s like why didn’t you do this in the first place. It proves these executives have no idea what their doing. I am 100% positive the Snyder cut of Justice league is going to be 1000x’s better
Absolutely! I remember watching this cut and, within the first 5 minutes yelled at the screen "why did they cut this out!?". Like Jeremy said, there's still issues, but so many of the plot holes are fixed with the Ultimate Edition that, like you, it just frustrates me when executives put their noses in creative endeavors like this only to make it a worse product than its original version.
yeah, I know right? Like did you read the Collin Trevorrow script for Episode IX? Duel of the Fates is infinitely better than Rise of Skywalker...but Bob Iger and the execs at Disney were too stupid and said it was too risky...now I doubt JJ Abrams will ever work for them again...if that's the case maybe we have a chance now of a JJ Abrams directed Superman movie...plus Henry Cavill's returning to the role so that'll make it a double win.
Justice League was sabotaged.
It’ll be 1,000 times better but still shit
What a original comment
We're nearing "PEAK JEREMY" if he keeps his hair long
Keanu Jahns
He hasn’t even begun to peak.
No
Keep it going !
Looking good mate
You've got this Jeremy !
@@Scubasteveguy Somebody hide the pencils.
My first time watching BvS was actually this version, I'm glad I waited.
Good for you for positively waiting
for a director cut. My only wish is that WB should have use this cut in theaters i dont care if its 3 hours long.
Lucky
Same dude. My first experience with "The Watchmen" was ALSO the Director's Cut, I'm happy to say haha. After seeing that, I knew I had to wait for the blu ray!
Me too. My friend showed me the director's cut without telling me that it was, and at the end, I wondered why the film got all the hate that it got.
Only saw this version aswell :)
I actually appreciated Eisenberg's luthor after the Ultimate edition.
Because I realized that his spastic persona is just an act. A way to make people see him as just an eccentric billionaire daddy's boy, and avert attention from his plan
This becomes obvious if you listen to the tone of his voice. It's actually deeper when he is his "true" self
And he even says it in the end "I'm crazy. I'm not even fit to stand to trial"
As years have passed, he's a better villain than most of MCU
@@KalomikaArts Yeah only MCU one I'd put above him is Nathaniel Richards
@@thecabbageman1 who is nathaniel richards?
@@minerpvpgaming2160 He who remains.
@@thecabbageman1 he was just introduced so idk if u can really count him yet
That hair is getting more and more majestic everyday
😂👏🏽
Lol, true
Jeremy is slowly completing his transformation into John Wick
Bronson Pinchot.
One thing I loved about the Ultimate Edition as well is that the whole Senate hearing, and witnesses were fleshed out more and it showed more about Lex's plan.
Exactly. Which was extremely crucial for the prime story. Which is BATMAN fighting SUPERMAN lol
The theatrical didn’t really explain about Lex putting a bomb in Wally’s chair, did it? I know it didn’t explain Clark being unable to see through it even if he had tried.
@@michaelbuckelew the smoke bomb batsy uses also has lead based smoke so supes wasn't able to see through it.
@@michaelbuckelew It was, but it was really quick. The Extended Cut's more deliberate pacing draws more attention to it, letting you sit the information as the scene progresses. It is really hard for an audience to retain info when they aren't given enough time to digest it.
I can't ruin the 69 here either lol
I think we've become more accepting of BVS is because we all had preconceived notions of what it should have been. Now that it's years later we're more accepting of it.
Also the theatrical version was edited really weirdly and that turned a lot of people off.
The extended edition of BvS is actually the first version of the movie I saw and when I saw the theatrical cut I couldn’t finish watching it because it felt off and like so much was missing. So I will say the extended edition was better.
To be honest, I watched both; but first the theatrical. And while some of the investigation threads were more fleshed out, the premise ends weakly. IE: The batman-superman fight that loses a lot of impact when you think about any of the motives there at that time; and of which HISHE poked many holes in. And the investigation wasn't even that interesting; making it 30 minutes of hoh-hum, added in with a lot of boredom already; and I am sleeping through that movie, until the two different finales. Which were brain-dead anyway; but at least the visuals were kinda cool. But not even in the same category as something like MoS, Wonder Woman, or Aquaman.
i think the point is ur first impression of it, no matter which version u watch 1st, u will never go back. i watched the 3 hours version 1st and felt naked when i watch the theatrical one when they show it on TV. For me this movie is 9/10
@@TheMinhthe Imo
Theatrical Cut:5.1
Ultimate Edition:5.2
@@punchforpound2808 Why would they bother doing an extended edition or directors cut if they aren't going to make more money from it? If Netflix or Cable are the only way you get your movies then there is a lot of movies you'll never see.
@@dex4463 They did make money of it. It even ended up on top 50 most sold bluray movies of all time.
There's a scene in the ultimate edition that gives me chills every time. After the wheel chair explosion, Alfred is seen chopping wood. He obviously isn't aware of what's happened, but the eerie score plays. He walks in and calls out to Bruce, only to see the news report on the TV covering the explosion and Superman's suspected involvement and the red taunt notes addressed to Bruce, he looks through the window knowing damn well what this has done to Bruce's already declining mental state. In most incarnations and comics, Alfred is present whenever Bruce suits up and leaves. This is the first time that Bruce is so enraged that he leaves without notifying Alfred. The rage has alienated Bruce from even Alfred.
Agree the ultimate edition should get more love.
@@abhishekpandey3696 yeah it's great
@The Deadid 1 To each their own. I loved almost everything about it.
@@Marvin-lu3hj yes we can disagree but the only thing important is love for movies.
This is exactly what I've been thinking since the ultimate cut released. And I think, as a whole, people wasn't really aware about Alfred. In the other side, WB really fucked BvS including Jeremy Iron's portrayal of Alfred.
I only ever saw the ultimate cut after everyone said the movie sucked and i thought it was pretty decent.
Joe PPG NW yeah same I thought it was pretty good instead of it just being a mess
@@Deadpool-yn9mg I enjoyed BvS for what it was...a superhero movie with iconic characters!!! Was it great? No, but it was fun. I feel it gets unfair criticism, and I feel the same with Justice League!
I too only saw the longer cut. When I found out the differences I thought, "yeah, that was terrible". Still wasn't a fan of the movie though and now I'm preparing to get called a "Marvel Fan Boy" when I probably won't like the Snyder Cut of JL.
Bvs ultimate edition is really cool movie especially the trinity part.
yeah that was the main plot that improved enormously
I like it a lot. Granted, I don't think it's masterpiece", but it doesn't have to be. I enjoy it, and like Snyder's vision of these characters. Can't wait to see his JL on HBO Max.
Nice profile pic
Yeah everyone but lex is fine I just don't understand why Snyder wanted Jesse Eisenberg so bad for his movie like he's a good actor but he wanted him for Jimmy Olsen and turned him into Lex Luthor since Jesse didn't want a small role. But that's my only problem with the casting choice.
See Jesse is my favorite lex luthor ever but I know I’m in the minority but I’m in the extra minority because even people who like the movie like me usually say they didn’t like eisenberg
Austin Reed out of curiosity why is Jesse your favorite Luthor
kudos to those snyder fanboys who refused to acknowledge the problems of this movie, and straight say it's a "masterpiece" Lol. like they don't even say "it's my opinion", they literally say it's a masterpiece and whoever don't agree with them, then by their logic, those people are stupid
100% agree. The Ultimate Edition is the only version worth watching.
Yeah! Cause yhe flows better and scenes taking out for what ever reason made somethings make better sense🤔
Nope, a fan edit called "Batman v Superman: No Justice " is best, it's only about the conflict between Bats and Sups. Wonder Women, Doomsday and anything related to Justice League are cut.
Trisolaris I need to watch this version because WW, Doomsday and Lex are really the worst parts but now it just sounds like you are describing The Dark Knight Returns which gave a much better reason why Batman and Superman would fight in the first place.
Synder just wanted a darker and older Batman instead of thinking how it would make sense plot wise.
Jeremy's hair is going full John Wick.
He's the result of what happens when Wolverine and John Wick have sex.
Crisdean Mackinnon I think the science might be slightly off on that one :-)
Stay away from his dogs.
Samething I was thinking myself. Lol
LOGAN
This movie is like good wine. Gets better with time.
It does the fight scenes makes me hyped all the time
ahm.. no.
@@BhaArsiyes
still not great tho. Hard to watch Batman planning to kill people, and superman's character still kinda weird.
@@rahulb7368 I mean, Keaton killed like 5x as much and we didn't care...
I love the Ultimate Edition.
That added footage makes a difference.
I had some of the same problems with the film as you did. For example: Framing Superman didn't make much sense in the theatrical cut. Using the flamethrowers though makes more sense though because you could blame it on his heat vision, and it adds to the scene that happens later when Batman saves Martha by blowing up KGBeast's flamethrower.
It's totally a more cohesive film.
The only way the theatrical cut can be watched is with the help of Rifftrax.
I remember watching the director’s cut and saying “oh that makes more sense now” quite a few times.
Same with me, except "That makes actual* sense now"
nope
*puts on Morpheus glasses*
"He's beginning to believe..."
I see 69 likes... and I just dont want to be number 70... so ill say like like this and move on XD
lol same dude
😅🤣😂
I’m really glad to see BvS UE finally getting the love it deserves.
It's Blade Runner of this century. Hated upon release, directors cut is now a cult classic.
It’s nice to see more people coming around to this movie.
Agreed, I didn't really mind it when I saw it in theaters but ever since the UE was released I refuse to ever watch the theatrical version again because it's not the full movie
@@tristanmohr112 Amen brother!!
It's because so many skipped the extended edition. It IS the movie the fans enjoy. The theatrical cut was nonsense. Of course people hate it
I'm suddenly coming into this phase where I'm distant from any Marvel thing and going to back to DC and yeah this film looks like a breath of fresh air. :D
It was trash simple no cut will save it
Sucks you can’t post pictures in the comments because this would be the perfect time for the “A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one” meme.
Wouldn't hurt to share us the link lol
If you could post pictures on RUclips, it would be so scuffed. Would just be spam of cancer, terrible memes and loads of NSFW content. No doubt a 13 year old will post a dick pick on a teenage girls make up tutorial or something. Granted a gif feature would be much appreciated
Lawrence Stevens Very true
@@chriswyatt9869 better than having the no one meme all over RUclips
I'd say the gif from stepbrothers "YEP"
The movie actually revealed much darker side of humanity (though Superman was not human, lol). It showed the world, how desperate men can be when the situation is against them. I really sometimes feel this for real. I'm from India, and it is no surprise that people here still believe in castism. There are several religious stereotype. What our government does, make different communities fight against one another, making big issues out of small things, media shows the same crap in the entire country, which in turn raises rage amongst other part of the country too. Govt. does all this shit just to deviate focus of the citizen from real issues like economy and hunger.
PS: Corona virus pandemic was related with religion at first; yeah, it's true.
Edit: Thank you guys for understanding what I'm trying to convey, and supporting me for the same. Love you guys and once again, thank you very much.
It's sad that your explanation can also be said about my country Indonesia
I can feel you mate!
✌
I'm in the US and what you said sounds awfully familiar. Just take out "religious" and substitute "political party."
Then go out and talk to people. Stop watching the news.
Spot on brother. Agree a 100%. About the movie and the state of our country right now. And it’s equally sad that we have people of different nationalities claiming it’s not so different for them as well. It’s like Zack Snyder knew...
WB : 3 hours is too longer.
Zack Snyder : oh yeah hold my 4 hour JL 😎
“everybody keeps asking me if I’m back....and I haven’t had the time to answer...But yeah...I’m thinkin I’m back”
John wick , my man
Back to looting.
Evomre lmaoooo
It wasn’t perfect but the narrative makes much more sense in the extended cut
It still sucks though
Like Christian Bale said in Batman Begins, A guy who dresses up like a bat clearly has issues.
And like Aquaman once said, Dressed like a bat. I dig it.
Batman wearing a bat costume is a superhero trope not evidence that he is insane. Are you a psychologist??
Bruce Wayne didn’t decide to walk-or swoop-around the streets of Gotham in a bat costume because he actually thought he was a bat. Wayne started dressing as Batman because he had a specific purpose in mind: to disguise his identity when he fought criminals. Sounds like a good idea to me, and one that is used by military personnel when necessary (though not the bat part). Wayne also wanted his disguise to serve another function: to evoke fear in criminals.
@@brucew565 It was a quote and presented as a joke.
@@brucew565 He was literally quoting what Bruce Wayne said in Batman Begins. Chill lol.
@@brucew565 Just saying but as a Psychologist, Batman has so many issues I don't even know where to begin
"There's a new kind of mean in him.....He is angry and he is Hunting" - The Batman i always wanted.
100%
"That's how it starts, sir.
The fever....A rage....
Feeling of powerlessness....
That turns Good Men....
CRUEL."
Instead of the pragmatic, patient, and tactical genius, that Batman has always been.
@@Ukaran That's the genius of Snyder's arc for Batman. BvS was his redemption story. He projected his flaw of becoming the worst version of himself onto Superman, Lex making it easier for Batman to do that by framing Superman with crimes against humanity (Capitol explosion and African village massacre). At Superman's funeral, Bruce says to Diana, "I failed him in his life. i won't fail him in his death." The Batman in Justice League will be the pragmatic, patient, tactical genius from his earlier years :)
@@BabyYodie
And that would be fine and dandy, if BvS wasn't only the SECOND movie in the franchise, and didn't INTRODUCE Batman into the story.
You don't introduce an iconic and beloved character into a story, by making him/her act completely different from what people expect.
It’s all the WB executives’ fault , they handle EVERY.SINGLE.PROBLEM in such a terribly stupid way it’s phenomenal.
This. Snyder took the blame for so much of what was bad decision making from the uppers of the studio.
so surprised that they can dish out so coherent and great animated movies, but the live action department is a complete mess.
@@myslead It's amazing what you can do when your overheads are low enough that the studio doesn't bother you.
It's most likely Snyder's fault. If his contract mention how long the movie should be, then he should make it good in that duration. Other dceu movies can be good without extended edition. Lotr theatrical version is still good although extended version is better.
@@nazrey8910 A lot of directors don't think that long ahead, and just put their trust in those money hungry execs to not chop up their finished work just so it can have more screenings at the cinemas
Know what sucks? That extended version is not on HBO MAX as of this writing.
Really? That sucks. Hbo max has had a very weak launch. Also wish they had man of steel on hbo max
@Luis Martinez Shit?😂..your life seems sucks enough for not enjoying the movie. lol
I read itll be there in july.
It's also $15 I know there can be a lot of content in the future. But right now $15 is way to much
It never will be, unfortinately. For whatever reason they NEVER have the "Director's Cut" version of films ie. The Abyss, Watchmen, Kingdom of Heaven, Aliens, etc. etc.
I LOVE the final interaction between Batman and Lex. Lex: “this is how it all CAVES in... civilization on the wane/WAYNE... manners/MANOR out the window..” and then Batman retorts by telling Lex he’s sending him to Arkham asylum 😳
Yeah, I always wondered what the hell he was talking about until I seen it with subtitles lol it’s great
craig o'donnell
Just a clever way for Lex to reveal that he knows who’s underneath the cowl
The movie had layers under layers.. One really needed to unravel alot..
I thought the interaction with the senator about gods falling from the sky and whatnot was also outstanding. Jessie's portrayal may have been all over the place, but when he hit, it was really good.
I’m one of the rare people who actually liked eisenberg, but after watching supergirl season four I think cryer would have been a huge upgrade ( especially if he played him the same way he did in supergirl)
One of the things I noticed is the fact that Snyder, whenever he makes a superhero flick, takes a lot of time establishing the story and the characters. Not that there's anything wrong with that but the studios think from a financial standpoint that no one would want to sit for more than 3 hrs. This case is different with justice league but if he hadn't left the project, the studio still wouldve cut down lots of stuff as now we know, his version is 4 hrs long .
I never watched the theatrical version but when it came out on BluRay I watched this version straight away and was completely confused on why people hated it! Then years later I watched the theatrical cut I was like... okay, that’s why. This version of BVS is much much better
This movie is still a pile of shit trying to setup so many other movies at the cost of the movie itself. The ultimate edition doesn't really fix anything.
@@okagron Incorrect, movie is that good, truly underrated
@@okagron Wrong
It's insane that WB removed so much critical content from BvS to maximise the number of showings. Ultimate Cut is amazing and so rewarding to rewatch.
okagron disagree
2:03 Neo Keanu Reeves
2:13 John Wick Keanu Reeves
lol
Hahahahahah 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Holy shit you're right!
This cut is even darker. The weight and tone of this is superb. I just rewatched it and I loved it!
I loved this movie already but the Ultimate Edition is better. I recently watched the animated Dark Knight Returns and then this and was blown away even more by how much Snyder took from it.
I swear once when Jeremy cuts his hair we are all gonna have a freakout.
His hair loss is gonna be a shock to us just like how Chris Hemsworth cut his hair in Thor: Ragnorak😭
@@I-speak-U-shut-it his hair line is receding quite fast.
Watch his old videos than
My man looking like John Wick when he has a cousin or somethin
He should keep the John Wick look
What was cut out was the “S” of BvS. Which was an odd decision since this was to be a Man of Steel sequel with a side of Batman, not Batman’s reboot movie. The movie edit only begins to make some sense once the ratios resemble the 50/50 split advertised in the movie title.
Yeah they cut Clark Kent out of the Movie and Clark is Superman's Heart.
They kept Lois though which made no sense, I think it would have made more sense if they clipped Lois and focused on Clark while still showing the bodies being burned by KGBeast and implying that Lois was doing a story on the cover up.
When BvS came out in 2016 I had mostly checked out of CBMs because I was tired of the more comedic direction they were taking. Heard the negative reviews and didn’t check it out in theaters. When the ultimate edition came out on home release I finally gave it a chance and absolutely loved it. Quite possibly my favourite CBM of all time. Never understood the negativity, but then again my first impression with the ultimate edition. Fantastic movie for adult CBM fans. Not necessarily the kind of thing you take little kids to, but there’s a market for adult oriented CBMs as well. Hopefully HBO max is the right place for that type of content to continue.
endgame wasnt exactly a short film, imagine that being cut up in the same way...
Never thought Jeremy would review the Ultimate Edition of this movie. I low-key wanna cry
Same dude. I was commenting on his instagram for weeks to review this movie.
Prateek Pandey wth get a life LOL
@@Lightningkuriboh So commenting on someone's post means I have no life? It takes like 5 seconds to comment dude.
If things don’t go back to normal, Jeremy Jahns is going to start is going to start reviewing toys. Watch out, Ryan!!
Robert Myer Burnett does owe him a hot toy
I vote for a Furby review.
LOL LOL, agreed agreed!! 😂😂
The review we all secretly wanted from too long
4 years and a pandemic to make this happen.
I’ve only seen this edition. Always liked it.
Same. I watched the UE 6 times in a month
Exactly. This was the only version I saw and I didn't get the absolute hate for this movie. I do agree it's not great but it's not dogshit.
Dantoo it’s dogshit cuz it shits to all characters.
@@Qthetar You again
I watched it 3 times in one night before
His hair is turning into John Wick and I'm loving it!
3:28 “Billionaire Jeremy, millionaires are so last year”
Arkham City intro reference. Noice.
Multi billionaire
I get that reference.
You think I’m taking advice from someone who has never even been in a fight?
I've restarted that game enough to remember
Warner Bros. was just so scared of releasing a 3 hour long movie, such a dumb move, everybody would've seen it anyway! as we all saw Endgame, regardless of its runtime.
To add to your point, people wanted to see more of Endgame
Tbf Endgame was the biggest movie ever released with 10 years of film to hype it up.
Endgame could have been 4hr long and everyone would have watched it bvs nah...You have to consider an average movie goer...Not the nerds...They are not as interested or invested in the dceu ...Endgame was an end to long list of movies....
BIG FACTS!!!
I mean everyone saw Avatar and Titanic and those were pretty long
This deluxe version has turned me. I really wished they released this instead of the theatrical version.
Yea it really is a hidden gem of a good film. flawed, but ambitious noir cinema
Long haired Jeremy is a blessing upon these lands.
Looks like neo after taking the blue pill
I look away for a second and he cuts to younger him. We went from John Wick Keanu to Neo Keanu.
He looks like tom cruise in mi2
I will mourn the loss of Jeremy's curls when he gets a haircut.
@@Darek_B52 I THOUGHT THE SAME THING!
Yeah, Ultimate Edition was a hell of a lot better. Watching it just made me sad that the studio buried this.
I love DC, all they needed to do was not butcher it for me to be happy. Sigh.
To be fair, I don't think they believed that audiences would want to sit through a 3 hour movie, seeing how lots weren't already on board with Man of Steel. It's like if they released Lord of the Rings director cut instead, would they have confident that the average movie goer would be willing to deviate nearly 3.5 hours in the theater. Long movies kinda have to be earned.
@@christiansanchez2088 That's true - but then the film has to be shot with that time budget in mind. It seems pretty clear this was supposed to fill the 3 hour slot until someone changed their mind. LotR was shot with their 3 hour limit in mind, and they had some extra scenes filmed to play with in editing. The Two Towers is the only one that seems to suffer a bit because of actual substantial cuts within sequences as opposed to self-contained scenes being withheld. Return of the King misses out on the conclusion of Sauruman's arc, but is otherwise fairly whole without the additional content. Batman v Superman ended up being a colossal mess because of how they had to butcher it in the editing room. It's a far worse film than it would have been if it was simply planned and shot around the right length. Hell, look at all the material Snyder had on top of that. It was definitely supposed to take the longer slot at movie theatres right up until they got to editing.
I was unphased.
It is a better movie, but you still have a terrible mashup of comic book ideas that shouldn’t be together.
Take out doomsday. That storyline should never have intersected with the stand-off between batman and Superman.
Make it a little more cheesy and have them team up to arrest Lex Luthor to show each other that they can embrace the rule of law.
Batman brings the gadgets, Superman brings the brawn.
Or you could just kill two stories at once and fuck up Doomsday and the Superman v Batman standoff.
Box office greed from WB is what ruined the dc universe which stats wise was financialy more successful after 4 films than the mcu after 4 films and they didn't build on that they wanted to copy marvel and we saw the outcome of that
@@christiansanchez2088 I hated BVS and I really really enjoyed the Ultimate cut
"Right off the bat."
I see what you did there.
The theatrical cut literally made so little sense, i did not like it when i saw it. But years later, after being a little bit stubborn, i finally watched the ultimate edition, and it is now one of my favorite superhero films. I can n to wait for the Snyder cut!
This film will age really well and be a cult favorite one day.
You’re right. I remember BvS way more than I remember Capt. America Civil War.
Dom Dom probably bc of how significantly bad it was in comparison lmao
@@y2kbrae yes u are right , captain america civil war was so bad that i literally cant remember what actually happened in the movie , all i can remember is spidey being tony's lil bitch
@@nazreplicas7930 I only remember spiderman scenes
When Civil War was on Netflix I watched it one time. I own the ultimate edition of BvS and I even preferred the theatrical cut of the movie over Civil War. I don't remember anything that happened in that movie
I really enjoy the ultimate cut of BvS despite hating the theatrical cut for feeling incomplete, and I’m really looking forward to Zack Snyder’s Justice League... even if it’s just to get the Justice League film that I originally paid for. (By the way, loving the Road Warrior look, Jeremy!)
Yeah I'm in the same boat with BvS. I absolutely despised the theatrical cut. I thought the the Ultimate Edition was a decent movie.
When fans refer to BvS, it's assumed they're talking about this version. It's the definitive version and the only one worth watching.
I love how when it comes to alot of superhero films the directors cut is usually better. both BVS ultimate edition (text looks like it belongs on an Injustice cover) The other was Watchmen.
none of them worth wathcing.
@@Darek_B52 both by Snyder
It’s still garbage, it’s not worth watching
@@МаксимКулешов-о5п thankfully there are many others movies for you to watch and enjoy
The Ultimate Edition was the only version I’ve seen, thankfully.
And it still sucks.
Qthetar just like you
@@Qthetar lol, here comes the 14yr old mcu fanboy 😂
Achinta Chakraborty nah I don’t need to be an MCU fanboy to hate hack Snyder shit movie.
@@Qthetar lol, bvs is better than most of mcu movies
"It's amazing the difference that half an hour can make."
That's what she said :)
It was literally way ahead as far as a film than the theatrical cut. The whole time I was like oh that makes sense now
I think the ultimate edition largely improves the first 2 acts of the film. The third act is still a mess with doomsday, but the film is still improved overall
I completely agree with this. I will always hate the ending. Hated them rushing Doomsday and prematurely killing Superman, but the film overall I enjoy.
I actually like the truncated story arc Snyder was going for. My biggest gripe with Marvel is that they release too many stand-alone films. 80% of them feel like complete filler to me. Also Infinity War > Endgame
@@sm4carnageihope The real doomsday is somewhere in the dcu universe. The one seen in the movie was a bargain version of the OG which is in space somewhere.
The doomsday part still sucks terribly. But the ultimate definitely makes up for the beginning.
It’s not really Doomsday, though, is it? I’m no huge expert, but this creature is Lex taking Zod’s body and using the Kryptonian ship to turn it into a copy of Doomsday.
Read Superman: Birthright, that Lex was almost identical in many ways
Sadly a lot of the people who criticized this movie don't read comic books and/or they don't know the different interpretations of these characters, and some are just not open to new interpretations of these characters either. I loved this movie when it first came out and I loved the Ultimate Edition even more! It's a movie that was ahead of it's time, and people are beginning to notice.
No he wasn’t! The only thing similar about them is that he had long hair in a flashback when he was a teenager
Funny enough, Mark Waid, the writer of Superman Birthright has stated that he doesn’t actually see Birthright Lex in Eisenbergs performance at all.
@@colonelstarsandstripes5379 that's his problem
@ Diego Clark it’s really not.if Mark Waid was just an actor, or someone who wrote another comic, then I wouldn’t have cared.but he wrote Birthright Lex, which some people use to defend DCEU lex.and if he doesn’t see birthright Lex in Eisenbergs performance, then I got news for you; it isn’t based on birthright Lex. Just because some random people on the internet say “guys it’s based on Birthright Lex” doesn’t mean it is.
Them: Why are you Snyder fans so adamant about the Snyder cut for Justice League?
Me: Have you seen his director’s cut of Batman v Superman? Or Watchman for that matter?
Yes. Still waiting for an answer.
You forgot the greatest of them all : Man Of Steel
Watchmen extended cut is fucking great, IDC what anyone says lol it's a great adaptation
@@brandon17760 it felt like the the comic book frame for frame
I enjoy most of those movies
But 300 is fucking Master Piece
I love how Jeremy looks more and more like keanu reeves every video😂😂
Quarantine Haircut. At least we know Jeremy is still social distancing. 🤣
Penguiz0 wins this contest
I hope he doesn't get a copyright strike for looking like a celebrity 😂
That’s racist
If he lets it grow REALLY long he can be Jesus!
The ultimate edition is so much better. It’s like they cut out all of the characterization and the strings that pulled the plot together.
Lol it’s still trash, it just made it a little less trash. It doesn’t improve on the already bad parts.
@@Qthetar Why are you mad that people think it's good😂
@@prod.franchise Slowly realising just how many Snytertards out there in the wild. Scary thought.
@@SuperFlawless2010 I guess the Snydertards are more than anyone else lmao, since they got a million hashtags and trended multiple times worldwide and they are getting the Snyder Cut
@@Qthetar
I love the martha scene, it moves me because when superman is about to dead, the only thing in the mind of this larger than life godlike person in his dying moment is the safety of his adoptive mother, that made him more human than human to me and that must be the reason why it changed Batman's opinion of him. I don't understand why people hate it so much, does it take a bit of leap of faith than such small act would change the mind of his nemesis so quickly and dramatically, yes, but overall i accepted it.
Jeremy's aged well during quarantine.
Yep turning into a keanu reevs clone
Looking like John Wick from a 2nd tier Multiverse 😂. Love me some Jahns!
"quarantine" for a cold virus that is no more deadly than the flu and where you can build *immunity* to it
anyone back after seeing the meme of him being John Wick if he had chosen a cat?
Yes
Yes
Yes
PTBEN lmaoo
I got here as soon as I can
I watched the ultimate edition and was genuinely shocked at how much more everything made sense and how good it was. I went to look at people's reviews and they were giving it 6-7/10 but to me I thought the ultimate edition was at least 7.5/8. Glad you watched it. Also watching JLU as a kid, and seeing the atrocious portrayal of Lex Luthor in the movie made me not ever want to rewatch it. Honestly what a travesty.
It's OK, it's cherry :P
This version of Lex, especially now that we’ve gotten Lex in Supergirl, is going to be ridiculed forever. That’s just the way it is now. It’s as if they didn’t really consult the source material. Lex in JLU, Lex in Smallville and now Lex in Supergirl were miles closer or were nearly identical to my idea of comic Lex it’s insane.
Agreed! Saw the theatrical and thought “yeah it’s okay I guess”, but the UE I honestly really enjoyed and makes me so much more excited for the Snyder Cut of Justice League
*In Bruce Wayne voice*
“That’s, uh. Billionaire”
"...Millionaire's so last year."
In Batman voice.
Jeremy actually listened to my direct message? Thanks dude!
No. He heard mines. He spammed yours 😠
I really love this movie, I was confused when I saw the theatrical release but when I saw the ultimate edition it really made me love it. I enjoy zacks movies a lot.
In other words you have bad taste 😂 300 is cool I guess
@@lucapachee9863 That's his opinion....
Isaiah Luc Apachee-Kriz Not has taste. Having bad taste is loving every Mcu movie
Zack movies are trash. All style and flashy slow motion shots with pseudo intellectual symbolism, no substance.
@@kreamdkorn5515 There's no such thing as bad taste.
While I got why many people didn't like BvS when it came out, I had a lot of respect for this movie, simply because in a time where a superhero film had to follow the marvel formula to be Releases apperantly, this movie tried to be something very different. In the ultimate edition BvS is a very good movie in my opinion that even though it was meant to be part of a bigger universe could stand on it's own and as a character study of two of the most famous yet very different comic book heroes, if you ignore the very messy conclusion with pseudo doomsday