Watch This Video Why Browning Buckmark is Better Than Ruger 22/45
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Please consider buying this pistol before buying a Ruger 22/45, its got a better trigger, grip, controls, and the take down procedure is loads easier.
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I have a late '80s model Buckmark and loved shooting it to this day. I have added a rail and a red dot in recent weeks. The trigger I left alone, its fantastic as is. A pleasure to shoot. Thanks for doing the review!
Me: I'm just going to watch the video I really don't need another gun.
Me:I'm going to buy one of these this weekend.
yes, it is better to buy a buck mark.
WHY O GREAT 1. RUGAR 22 45 IS HANDS DOWN #1 by sales and its not remotely close. 2 nd many government used the rugar, that a FACT as well. Browning is one of my 4 favorite brands. Iron sight stock on my colt 6" orange fiber op. 100 % aircraft STEEL. AT 50 YARDS A PAPER PLATE ALL DAY AND NIGHT. THEN WHERE IS MY 22 DIAMONDBACKS 6. BOTH BOUGHT IN 1 DAY IN 1990. O REMINTON 1100. ITHACA SLAYER.
I love the Browning Buckmarks. They arguably do have the best factory trigger of any rimfire pistol out there. But I got sold on the Ruger Mk IV .22/45 due to the ambidextrous safety. Someone actually started thinking about us left-handers. There is no way for left-handers to efficiently draw, release the safety without performing dexterity acrobatics before shooting which creates safety issues of their own. For this reason over the years, I've mostly used revolvers out of necessity.
I recently had the opportunity to target shoot a bone stock 22/45 side by side a bone stock Buck Mark 7-1/4" barreled Contour. In my hand, the Buck Mark was the superior shooter. It was all about right hand comfort and grip. The Browning just felt perfect and the Ruger didn't. Both were set up for competitive target shooting by a gun pro. My groupings were crazy tight with the Buck Mark. For anyone considering, it really helps to be able to compare side x side like that.
I'm sure glad I ran across you're review, and will definitely check out that Browning. Mahalo...
I have both pistols and overall I liked the Ruger Mark III a little better, although it took me longer to learn proper technique of disassembly for the mark III.
It's really a simple procedure once you get the hang of it.
I got better groups with the MKIII also.
Both OEM and aftermarket parts for the Ruger are extremely accessible and I found them to be a bit cheaper.
I have a bunch of 10 round magazines, mostly the Italian made OEM and after cleaning them and sanding/polishing them, they work flawless.
I found a good deal on some promag magazines and after I did a little sanding/polishing on them they work just as good as the OEM!
Another thing I like are the aftermarket kits you can get for the Ruger that can make that good gun into an incredible shooter.
Once I put a trigger kit in my MKIII I will come back and let y'all know if it's truly worth it like I have read and heard so many fellas say it is.
So again, it's a matter of personal preferance because they are both excellent pistols!
For me I like the Ruger a little better.
I enjoyed the video very much, Thank You for taking the time to make it. You have a really nice pistol there!
Good practical review without sniggly details. Enjoy your presentation style too. I'd like to see a similar review of the B'mark vs new SW Victory .22 semi auto.
Thanks
Good review. Because of you I am now looking at Browning. Had Ruger II made 60s or maybe before sold it darn now am looking for Ruger or Browning now. Am older so may just go with the Browning. When I was young if I could see the head of a nail I'd hit it. I'd shoot plates some times two at a time. Young I was great eyes steady hands. Tks.
Thanks for your review of the Browning Buck Mark. I picked on up about 3 months ago. It excels as a target pistol.
Winner for sure!
Good review. I like how you're forthright about which gun you like better and the reasons for it. I had a Buckmark UFX but sold it and kept the MK II (have 3 actually). Never shot the 22/45. I was more accurate with the Buckmark but the MK II was more comfortable in the hand, because the safety and slide release dug into my shooting grip. But to each his own.
+wordupmybrotha thank you for watching! Mahalo
Used to have a Ruger bullnose for shooting competion. Took the unit to a gunsmith to have an Aimpoint installed. The guy pointed to a jar on the shelf full of triggers. He told me that it was full of old Ruger triggers. He said enentully yours will be in there also. I had him do a trigger job on it. Made a positive difference. 2 to 3 lb pull. Have a Buckmark and an High Standard Military. Both fun to shoot and accurate.
I own two Buckmarks and love them. I also have a High Standard Supermatic Citation, but it's in a different class. The Buckmarks are my "go to" pistols to teach new shooters.
I own a Supermatic Citation also and just bought a buckmark. I have not shot the buckmark yet but have dryfired it (with snap caps) and can tell the buckmark trigger is heavier but still not bad. But yes, comparing the two would be like comparing a Toyota Camry with a supercar. The Camry is your daily driver and your High Standard is your hand fitted, performance gun and also collector gun. I also own a couple Match Target Woodsmans, a Smith K22, and a few winchester .22 rifles. They are all so well built. I bought the buckmark on a whim and it does not have the same fit and finish but does feel like a good quality gun with some modern features so it should be more of a "fun" gun that I won't cry if it gets scratched.
First gun I ever purchased. I don't shoot it much nowadays, but I'll never sell it. Love it!
I sold my first buckmark because i got bored with it. Worst mistake i ever made no bullshit. I missed it so much anytime i shot anything else of lessor quality. Recently bought another and its staying in the family till forever.
i pick up my buckmark in a few days. so excited. i started ordering some upgrades for it already
i grew up on ruger but we can no longer get em here in California.
thx for the video
congratz on the buy! bummer about those laws in Cali, its gonna get worse for Hawaii as well. Have fun out there and thanks for watching!
How did the buck mark hold up?
Hi! I just purchased the buck mark camper, what reflex sight are you using in the video? I noticed you switched from reflex to the bushnell trs 25.
I looked for a deal on a new or used Buckmark for 2-3 yrs and never found one for a decent price. Bought a new Mark 4 22/45 bullbarrel Target model for $340 and I love it. Put a Hogue rubber finger grip on it and Much better. I have stock sights and easily hit the 3”x3” target from 75 feet. Also, eats all .22LR ammo and no failures so far.
The buckmark is one of the .22lr pistols that realy fits good into my big hands
I love my old slab sided Buck mark mainly because of the great trigger action, out of the box.
Dude I just bought the buck mark micro with 4in bull barrel I love it
I recently bought the UDX version of the Browning Buck Mark. I like it a lot. I was a bit concerned that the universal grip had finger grooves but it seemed to be fitted very well for my hand and I've read other people say the same thing. Apparently they did a good job of making it fairly universal.
now that the mk4 lite is out has the consensus on the ruger changed. . I've always been a mk2 guy..never bought into the 3 or 2245 lite but almost got a pac sol upper for my trusted mk2. . I kinda like Buckmarks but at this point I have a couple mk2 s and tons of parts and accessories plus a dozen mags. . so I ordered a new mk4 2245 lite in black and it arrives in a couple days. I didn't even shop around because I have been looking for this lightweight version of the gun I already know and like.. since making the decision I have been looking at other 22 autos.. the smith n wesson stuff looks nice, browning has always made a great little 22.. so perhaps a second purchase is in order.
I'm getting a 22LR silencer, but don't yet have a pistol picked out for it. I am leaning towards the Browning Buckmark.
Trigger job on my Ruger 22/45 mk3 now 2.5 lb. Volquartsen trigger makes a big difference. Takedown is easy reassembly is challenging.
I've had a buckmark for about 20 years now. I bought a Ruger mk iv 22/45 lite a couple years ago for significantly more money. It has the worst trigger I've ever felt in a 22 pistol. No fiber optic front sight either so I had to buy one. I bought the volquerston trigger upgrade kit which helped but it's still not as good as a stock buckmark trigger. The mk iv is harder to rack the slide and the magazines are harder to load (but should get easier over time). I really like how easy it is to clean though. Definitely recommend a buckmark over a mk iv if anyone is considering getting one....
Great review! You did a good job clearly articulating your reasoning.
It's funny I've been in the market for the ruger mkiv lite for a while but had no luck finding one, I walked into the gun shop and ran into a browning buckmark vision blue so I just couldn't pass it up and I love it
I've had both & preferred the Browning. Just as accurate, just as reliable, better trigger & 10X easier to take apart & clean. Right after I got my MK 3 22/45 the MK 4 came out. I got an ultrasonic cleaner & highly recommend them for the MK 3. Saved a lot of my weekends.
Hi, what kind of Red dot have you mounted on tour Buckmark? Thanks
Ruger mark IV new takedown awesome big change hard to beat now🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫
I am a mark2 fan and sold mine 14 years ago. Then bought a mark 3 about 8 years ago. It was not the same gun as the mark 2! I re moved the magazine safety and the loaded chamber indicator because I hated them both. I bought a Buckmark about 5 years ago and even though it has a magazine safety it is much easier to undo than the Ruger. Now I see the problems people are having with the new Ruger MkV how the frames get loose and the way Ruger keeps tweekin them. Ruger should have stayed with the old mk2 it was the best design. But after experiencing the Buckmark and the fact that they never changed anything about it. I like my Buckmark better! The trigger especially!
Good video.. but I cringed when you dry fired it.. iv got one ( UDX) and from my own experience that firing pin will make contact with the 12 o clock position on the breech face and it will make a lil divot eventually.. mine did .. I stopped dry firing mine when I noticed the damage .. FYI
What brand of reflex optic do you have mounted?
I have a Browning Buckmark 22. It rocks, great gun.
Bought a new 22/45 Ruger lite. Piece of junk. Sold it, and bought a stainless buckmark UFX SS. What a great gun👍🏻
All good info but the better comparison would be a Camper to a Mark3. A lot of the negatives mentioned for the 22/45 are by design because they mimic the 1911. The controls on the Mark pistols mirror the Camper. I have both a Camper and a 22/45 mark2 and I always have to familiarize myself with the Browning by feel, whereas the 22/45 feels just like my 1911 (which is one of the most ergonomic designs of all time).
How did you find dry-firing the buckmark? I just purchased one and read a bunch of horror stories that make me afraid to dry-fire it at all.
I have my dads browning buckmark 22.I think its late 80s or early 90s?have to check it.anyway, I'm glad I didnt get rid of it.watching this video,its time to put a sight on this with that muzzle.Love it💯
I have both as well. My Buckmark Target is my go to.
What kind of grips are those?
Sincere Thank you for making this video. Loved it. What's the rear sight? Very nice!!!
Mahalos for watching. I think that sight was one of those cheap ones from amazon. Was like $20.
They are both equally good guns, I do have a ruger mk2 myself. Not because it’s better BUT because have had rugers for many years.
I bought the buckmark camper( cheapest model) on sale about$250or so. Good shooter. Well made!
Like my Ruger 22/45 frame but might have to get Browning ty
Mahalo fo da review Braddah!!!
22-45 trigger can be improved. What stock trigger couldn't be for the most part, but the take down is light years ahead on the 22-45. With a slight trigger adjustment the Ruger is tops.
I wish I saw this before I purchased my S&W Victory. I have a 22/45 Mark II and I have no problems with how it shoots or feels in my hand (with no mods, except a HIVIZ front sight). But the Victory just doesn't feel or shoot as good, not to mention how I keep hitting the safety with my grip. I truly only purchased it because I like the idea of the top picatinny rail and the several mods available. I went into it thinking I would mod it out , but if I can't find a way to stop hitting the safety every 30 rounds or so it will have to go. Now I will take a look at the Buckmark as well as the new 22/45 mk IV.
The Mark III 22/45 is as good as any stock 22 pistol out there in my opinion.
So what did you decide? A buckmark or a mark iv
ill still buy ruger mk4, one button takedown is reason enough for me and we all know that 22lr pistols and 22/45 are super dirty after shooting some rounds and need constant cleaning, besides ruger mk4 is like a pistol version of AR15 when u taking down the upper receiver, so cool right? all it's need is a butstock with buffer, longer barrel, some recoil grip and scope. and u have ur own 22 capacity rifle.
I'm glad this is available in California
I have an old Browning Nomad 6 3/4" barrel. It has a Great trigger! My brother-in-law has a Ruger 22/45 lite. Nice gun but I hate the trigger. I like the easy 1 button breakdown though but I'll take a Browning any day because of the trigger
The Buckmark keeps calling my name.
My brother and I own 2 Buck Marks.. His is the 2012 Stainless model! Right out of the box both had the most wonderful triggers ever.. Broke clean with great feel for last little bit of pressure needed to touch the shot off.. I put a set trigger from Midway on mine and did the Heggis flip on the trigger spring( turn it upside down) That dropped the trigger weight about half.. Accuracy?? It will out shoot your skills any day of the week. Feels great in the hand and points naturally.. Sorry.. for you tinkerers, not many aftermarket accessories available.. Why.. THEY DON['T NEED ANY...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unlike the Ruger that you have to spend big bucks to make them shoot right. Dave from South Georgia..
I bought and Tandemized an mk3 22/45 lite for less than what you'll pay for that buckmark off the shelf. And my ruger will fire bulk ammo, good luck doing that reliably with a browning
Rented one in CT. With a wood handle. Awesome precision gun!
+CHEECHMUN i really miss that pistol
No way, I'll keep my ruger 22/45 over any other competitors.
The browning buckmark is a nice pistol, however, as a lefty, the safety is too small, and not ambidextrous, so it’s difficult for me to use. The 22/45 is MUCH better for left handed shooters.
Can't decide, don't like the tear down on the Browning... that is important to me...
I had a chance to fire a Ruger 22/45 lite Followed by a browning, buck mark
The only thing the Ruger had above the bookmark is the fact you can take the upper receiver and barrel off a lot easier
Anyways, it’s comparing apples and oranges because the light does not have the heavier barrel and assembly so you really really have to do your work and follow through breathe and squeeze in order to get a reasonable group
I think the mk iv With the aluminum frame is a much better option than the 45/22 Frame
The 45/22 Frame is a polymer frame that’s molded overtime. It’s gonna crack and it’s going to weaken and it really doesn’t give you that much in the way of stability. The hold onto it is a manufacturing convenience for ruger
The browning buck Mark I did have issues with the lever working reliably that might be the fact that it’s a rental gun that needs to be cleaned
When looking for a .22 I saw some great reviews on guns like the Ruger and S&W victory but I found both of them felt terrible in my hand because the grip is too short. The Browning however felt awesome OK so there small calibre pistols but people with normal size hands want to shoot them people
My BuckMark arrived yesterday, and frankly, I couldn't be more disappointed. The slide is stuck and that safety seems to be frozen in the off position. There was no spent shell enclosed which means they may not have tested it. Can't get a hold of Customer Service because it's the weekend. I own a Ruger 22/45 Mark III which has never given me a problem. Also was able to recently pick up Ruger 22/45 Mark III magazines at CDNN for $12.95. The BuckMark magazines look to be significantly more expensive.This post is not meant to be a rebuttal of this video. Just be forewarned. There are a lot of people out there complaining about the safety. These guns are not perfect.
Aren't those aftermarket CDNN mags junk?
Take the magazine out and it will cycle!
I bought the s&w victory, the Beretta nexus, Roger iv and the browning buck mark.i like all .I don't found who is better so I keep all of them.
did the buckmark have any preference for different ammunition type for accurate shooting or cycling
+dan walters it ate everything from the federal white box to the cci mini mags, i got better results with the mini mags, groups got a lot tighter
Thanks I love my Browning has never jammed
Michael Schantzen you’ve not shot enough
Browning Buckmark's always were the pistols waiting in the background. Until you shoot one, you'll wonder where it's been all your life. It's always had the 45-style grip & never said anything about it. They just made them.
They are the better 22 pistol a lot more accurate & dependable. Ruger still has issues with the 22-45 feeding rds.
Just one thing to say, don't ever move away from Hawaii. I did, it really sucks! Oh ya, just bought a Browning Buck Mark this morning, love them. It's superior quality makes it one of those guns You can pass down to your Grandkids! The optic rail for the top is only $37. Stay living Aloha Cuz!
Just waiting for my buckmark now. The Ruger bummed me out. SW Victory did not feel good in the hand....
Why not update this by comparing the Buckmark to one of the Ruger Mark IV pistols?
Are you shooting at the public range down past Diamond Head? I used to go down there years ago. Good video on the Buckmark, man!
That's the one!
I shot my S&W revolvers there a few times when I was stationed at Kaneohe. Good to see. Keep up the 2a fight! Aloha!
The slide on the Buckmark makes me leery. It looks a lot like the slide on my Beretta Neos. I have to be careful about that one because if I barely get a thumb on the edge of it she aint gonna cycle.
I have the same 22/45 Mark III and did the grip mod and put a Hogue wrap around finger grip on it. Like it much better.
My Mark III Hunter is my favorite by far tho. That stainless frame and fluted barrel is a thing of beauty. Yeah, the trigger has pretty excessive take up, but broke at 3 pounds out of the box. After some polishing it breaks at 2 1/2 pounds and is far more accurate than me lol
Do you think the new mark 4s have a better trigger? I'm on the fence between the new mark 4 and the Buckmark. Great review. Thanks..
Which did you buy - Ruger Mark IV or Buckmark? Why? I'm trying to decide now. Thanks!
Neither yet, Relocating to a town with a sportsmans warehouse next month, will compare them then...
@Jeff Rasberry Neither, I bought a Ruger stainless GP100 22lr 10 round double action revolver. Which I love!!
@Jeff Rasberry Wow, Congrats!!! You sound like me, I should have just opened a gun store. But then I wouldn't have any profits, it's an addiction. A healthy one in my opinion, and great investment...
Can't go wrong with a Buck Mark. It is great out of the box but there are plenty of upgrade options also. I'm not saying there aren't other great .22 pistols, but I can't think of one better than the Buck Mark. If you really want to go crazy, upgrade the barrel to a Tactical Solutions threaded barrel. Add as suppressor. Slap a red dot sight on top. And as always, like any .22, you gotta clean your gun regularly.
I have both the Ruger 22/45 and the Buckmark both good guns...
Which one would you suggest for plinking, small game and reliability?
@@francostacy7675 both. Literary both are top class
I have a buckmark and a MK3 22/45 . Bought them both at the same time a few years ago. I find the 22/45 better to shoot. For me. All a matter of what feels best in a person's hand. Both nice pistols though.
Maintenance break down comparison is another story.
I'm in love with the Buckmark series, I got my Field Target back in 2009 for $750 and don't think I'll ever buy a different brand or model of .22LR, it is just hands down the best shooting pistol I own (at least until my CZ Shadow 2 comes in). Super light clean breaking trigger, accurate as they come, reliable, good looking, the whole package. I did have a guy almost shoot a hole in his foot with mine, I offered to let him shoot it at a gravel pit range and told him before he even had it in his hands that it has a super light trigger (2-3 pounds), first thing he does is scoff at me and fingerfucks the trigger guard and pops a round off between his feet, he listened to me after that lol. Not that I offered to let him shoot anymore after that first magazine, fricken dumbass...
Flash suppressor not compensator (edit: even though marketing calls it compensator, does nothing, mostly for looks only). I found buckmarks have heavy trigger. It is likely he did the spring flip on it... out the box it is 8 lbs... flip it is about 2-3 lbs. I have both Ruger and Buckmark. Both are great 22LR's.
gmcjetpilot nope, it's called a forward-blow compensator. Notice how it redirects the muzzle blast in his opening shots at the range. Volquartsen and Tactical Solutions make them.
gmcjetpilo
@@12799MaDeuce Yea I know what it is "called". I was not clear. It is marketing. It does NOT compensate at all with ports 360. I have shot with one on and off. No difference. The MAIN reason is per the marketing..." with 360 degree ports ..... adds a little pizazz to your existing platform." If you have threaded barrel and don't have a suppressor this is sparkle for your gun. It is NOT practical, for show. It does more to suppress flash, which is nil like recoil and flip is with 22LR. It is a do-dad. It is NOT needed. It is for looks.
You haven’t considered dissembling the browning vs the mark iv.
I shoot this on the team I am on I love it. 100% recommend it
NICE REVIEW WHAT IS THE TRIGGER METAL OR PLASTIC?
David Greener .. beautiful plastic.. I have one
The Buckmark is a nice gun. No argument. The Ruger MKIV fixed almost all the negatives you mention (I can't say for sure the trigger is better than the Buckmark) The takedown procedure for the MKIV is now far superior to the Buckmark, admittedly, it was not on the previous models. The controls are all much better and for magazine loading ANY .22, get one of those little plastic "thumb savers" that slips over the magazine to easily depress the follower.
The Buckmark has a lot going for it. My wife is currently looking for a new .22 pistol to replace her old S&W 422 (1987 vintage). Mostly because she is looking to mount optics and that is not really an option on the 422. She is torn between the Buckmark and the Ruger MKIV. Lots of models and options. So she is still contemplating. FWIW, price is not a big consideration for her, BUT the Buckmark in many of it's versions seems to be a little less expensive. Again, not by a big margin and maybe it is only because the demand for the MKIVs right now seems to be very high. They both have a confusing variety of models to choose from, so there will be something for everyone.
So you are comparing a Browning with extensive modifications to a stock Ruger? Lightening the sear spring can result in accidental discharge if the gun is dropped.
The standard, out of the box setting is 3-5 pounds. I worked in the factory!
Great Job
Camper is a very very accurate pistol, one inch at 25 yards all day.
browning buck mark was my very first .22 pistol, everything i have ever bought after that has been nothing but junk or lower quality.
Ive got the Buckmark with a TacSol barrel. Great little gun. That's not stopping me from buying a Mark IV 22/45 as well!
Shoot one before you buy it. At minimum, you will have to upgrade the horrible trigger on the mk iv 22/45. I much prefer my 20 year old buckmark over my mk iv lite 22/45.
Hey, what ammo will cycle best thru the Buckmark 22 ?
I have used several different kinds in mine and none have failed. They really are good quality pistols.
Brent anything! mine eats anything
cci, standard velocity, 40grain, lead round nose
Charles: The BPR Ammo is actually made by Remington and it shows.
CCI Pistol Match 22 LR.......... that's all I shoot through mine.
My uncle has one of these and I have the 22/45. In my opinion the only real difference is the factory sights and trigger.
Good video!!!!
Can anyone tell me what that optic is?
Husk it's one of those cheap ones from amazon or ebay
Looking at your grouping on the targets, even the one handed one, they're all within the size of a human head aka head shots. There's perfect and then there's good enough.
I selected the Browning over the Ruger and I'm so pleased with my purchase
Funny I almost bought both lmao when shopping for a fun to teach my mom and sisters how to shoot
Love my 22/45 but the triggers but the trigger is indeed sloshy they can be made to be nice but $$$$
You ARE aware, I hope, that the 22/45's design concept was to create a low cost firearm that mimicked the grip, controls, and trigger characteristics of a Colt 1911 for purposes of providing a .22 cal. practice alternative to the more expensive to shoot .45 ACP. You are panning it for doing EXACTLY what it was designed to do!
i watched the video and bought the ruger mk4. great shooter
I bought this gun today.Problems from the get go. Failed to extract, failed to fire, and a bent ejector . Browning offered nothing but excuses. I tried all their recommended fixes to no avail. They don't even want you to field strip it for cleaning. Btw i am not a newbie shooter. After three times on the phone with Browning i said the hell with it. My dealer gave me a full refund. i'm not saying the Ruger is better but the Buckmark you buy today is not of the quality it should be.
Heggis flip = bad idea. Buy a tandem cross gearbox sear spring = good idea.
ganda ng baril mo lakay......
Wait a minute. So this Browning 22 had some trigger work done and the Ruger is stock?
Well no wonder you prefer the Browning. You should compare two stock unaltered guns to be fair.
The spring flip is hardly trigger work. And in some, like mine, made it not reliable.
You can buy thousands of different aftermarket products for the ruger and it's better quality for longer life.
Sorry. Buckmark is much better quality.
@@jungleno. that is your opinion.
Both are well made and that little MarkIII can be tweeked into a really fine shooter, and parts and mags are cheaper.
Both are quality made firearms.
I have both so I know what I'm talking about.
There's certain things I like about the Browning and certain things I like about the Ruger.
I think if a fella can go shoot both pistols before buying he should. They're both good.
I have MkII and MKIII.
I haven't shot the Mark IV yet so I don't know much about them. I use CCI in all 3 of my pistols..., 👌
Buckmark all day long, great trigger right out of the box. Ruger Mark 4 trigger stinks!
Doesn't Hawai'i have some of the most oppressive gun laws in the country? I would like to learn a little more about this. Thanks.
dojmike thanks for watching making a video on that one
Thank you. Looking forward to it!
The Ruger mark series will always be the most popular in the world. There are other good guns out there in 22 semi autos.