Piracy in the South China Sea
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- China's Coast Guard stopped a Philippine Coast Guard small boat near Second Thomas Shoal. Chinese sailors attempted to puncture the inflatable hull of the supply boat with diver knives. Chinese sailors attacked a crew member with a fire axe chopping off his right thumb. Chinese sailors stole supplies from the small boat as the crew was being attacked.
Piracy: (noun) the practice of attacking and robbing ships at sea.
U.S. - Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty requires the U.S. to inform the United Nations Security Counsel. It does not require or mention a military obligation or action.
Disaster Relief example: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/...
Axe attack: one person asked about the Fire Axe attack. The video is available on bilibili and is filmed from the Chinese perspective. They are bragging about it.
Read it: treaties.un.org/doc/Publicati...
it's 4 pages if you count the Title page. A 4 to 5 minute read.
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Mutual Defense Treaty update: Even after explaining each article with visual aids, there was still one knuckle head who doesn't get. Don't be like him.
June 25 Update: Philippine President has made an additional statement since recording declaring the Chinese Cost Guard action as an 'unlawful' use of force. This is much more defiant message than what he said at the hospital with the injured sailor.
Update: Some people don't read the description before commenting, maybe they will read this?
U.S. - Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty requires the U.S. to inform the United Nations Security Counsel. It does not require or mention a military obligation or action.
Disaster Relief example: obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/19/fact-sheet-us-response-typhoon-haiyan
Axe attack: one person asked about the Fire Axe attack. The video is available on bilibili and is filmed from the Chinese perspective. They are bragging about it.
Read it: treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%20177/volume-177-I-2315-English.pdf
law only matter for nation do not have a navy with above 1000+ missile VLS cell . and china have way more than that right now
U.S. - Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty requires the U.S. to inform the United Nations Security Counsel. It does not require or mention a military obligation or action.
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China clearly violated article 5 of the treaty by attacking the philippines, which constitutes an attack on the country, which triggers the treaty. Clearly the philippines president could call up Biden and ask for help but he wont cause he seems to live in the fantasy world that words will stop china.
If only we had not been requested to leave Subic back in the 90’s non of this nonsense would be happening now.
The word he used was "pagsang-ayon" which usually means "approval" but he said it as "consent, endorsement, acceptance". His statement was: "Ang ating kalmado at mapayapang disposisyon ay hindi dapat ipagkamali bilang pagsang-ayon".
While I understand our treaty and the terms of it thanks to your explanation. I disagree with allowing a hostile powerful nation bully a smaller nation into submission. This will not end without bloodshed its really simply. The harassment will continue the inaction of the UN the enforce the ruling they submitted will also continue and eventually China will go as far as sinking ships and killing those marines on the abandoned ship. The more you allow a bully to do. He will become more and more emboldened by your inaction. I hate to sound like a broken record but we have seen this play out in 39 with Germany. 🤔
Weakness will only invite more conflict.
Worst case, this is a rehearsal for what they're planning around Taiwan.
Nowadays, being Peaceful is a weakness.
All was well, mostly, until u overstated the "protest" at the capital by saying that "as long as you're not chucking fire extinguishers at capital hill police, you will simply be detained for your protest if it gets out of hand, and then released". Many CONSERVATIVE "non violent" attendees and journalists, are currently STILL in jail! Why? Not cool
I think the case is being made to the internation world.
I still think it's time for action!
Well since nobody is going to do anything about it, it's going to continue.
yep 😕
The big problem is the Philippines does not own properties in the South China Sea in the first place. If the predecessor, the U.S.A. owned the Spratly Islands, then it's easy for Philippines to claim ownership, BUT, the U.S.A. never claimed ownership. Claiming ownership out of nothing is difficult.
@@tibetanchineseofchina So? That does not allow the Chinese ownership of something that is internationally recognized as international waters. Just because the Philippines doesn't own ____ doesn't give China the rights to it automatically. That is not how it works. China will be met with military force eventually if they keep escalating this situation that they artificially started by harassing the Philippines by targeting them in their economic zone claiming it as their own territorial waters which it is not.
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China just making sure the Philippines doesn’t dump to much imported plastic waste beyond its shores
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle the Philippines claims ownership of the Philippine Archipelago based on Succession of States of the U.S.A. The Philippine Archipelago does not contain Spratly Islands. China claims ownership of Spratly Islands based on Succession of States of dash line of Republic of China. Dash line was published in 1947.
This is the most lenient stance on piracy committed against your people I've ever seen
Invoke the MDT. You must demonstrate ironclad MDT
You must go round with your eyes closed then, the USA is by far the world's biggest thug killing millions since WW2, the dollar system is nothing more than an extortion racket, and one that is collapsing.
Didn’t Philippine’s win in International Court in 2016 about the sovereignty of that island & other islands there?
The United States should join the international law of the sea as soon as possible. And lift sanctions against international courts. Deploy at least 500000 ground troops to the Philippines. Permanently stationed 3-5 aircraft carrier battle groups in the Philippines. Be determined to sacrifice 500000 soldiers to defend the Philippines. In the next year, allocate at least $200 billion in voluntary aid to the Philippines.
Yes but the Chinese ignored it and no one is willing to enforce it
@@jonahhekmatyarThe country that complains the most about it, the USA, doesn’t recognize UNCLOS, or most international organizations for that matter like the ICC so until America ponies up and joins these institutions then it and its moron populations should learn to STFU because the hypocrisy and idiocy is laughable.
Hey boss, who did the Philippines get their independence from? Oh yeah that’s right it was the U.S. who decided it couldn’t ignore being just like their European counterparts by colonizing brown people. What a wonderful history are nation has 😂
They did so the Chinese government changed their argument from legal claims to 'historical claims'. But even their historical claims are quite questionable because it was based on very old maps that ultimately references the Ming Dynasty's (1368-1644) claims of SCS islands, it would be like the Roman empire drawing a map of the Mediterranean sea and modern Italy using it as a claim to why they own all of that sea. Absurd CCP justification for expansionism to steal gas and oil.
Didn’t Tom Clancy write a book about this?
Yes , the title of the novel was “SSN” released around 96/97 … it’s a fun read but considering when it was released and how the PRC has since then completed a total 180 it’s kinda now dated in the good realism CLANCY novels usually entailed…
There was one book where he had planes like the F111's and they were not public yet. They eventually asked him about that and he guessed something like that existed.
@@brett76544 Yes , I think You mean the F-19 “Frisbee” from RED STORM STORM RISING , is the one that CLANCY basically envisioned a stealth fighter/fighter bomber aircraft would be like at the time.
@@brett76544 in fairness there were rumors about the f 117 for quite a while before it went public
@@user-cj2wz8sb1l I know two people with F-111 replacement project mugs. Both worked the the F-117 and both got call up in retirement for Desert Storm.
Make a comedy bit a Phone call between us and philippine “not yet let’s wait after the American elections “
Cool to see you posting often lately
Great video, thanks Jive!
I may be wrong, but if the Philippines wanted to put this to bed once and for all, they would come out in force to resupply their marines. Instead, they feast on the media coverage for the US military support.
That's a possibility, but they may also be cautious about coming out in force considering that China does have the capability of responding with force of their own.
the Philippines doesn’t want to lose Chinese capital investment.
The Philippines has an MDT with America. Invoke the MDT now. America can invoke the MDT without consent from the Philippines
That's just what China wants, to force PH into a conflict.
I know people in the military in the Philippines, and heres what they say. This is part of a calibrated action and response to what China is doing in response to them.
If they go out there and send military logistics vessels, China will go out and send its own naval escorts, then they will need to send their combat ships to the area, China will send more and simply has more to send.
Right now, they are still in the midst of a long term military upgrade program that has a total budget of around $35 billion, they can't act tough yet until they get the ships and cruise missiles they ordered, some of the projects include purchasing more Brahmos Antiship missiles (they already have 3 batteries) and 168 units (28 batteries) of MLRS launchers.
I think once they have fully modernized, China will need to commit too much resources in the South China sea that they may take negotiations more seriously.
War! What is it good for? Turns out lots if you want innocent people to not be terrorized and attacked by evil
LMFAO. What are you going to do about it?
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You mean to tell me the Philippines do not have access to helicopters. That would seem like the easiest way to avoid being attacked by boats and resupply the island in question.
Philippines does air drop supplies as well.
It wont stop them from being attacked. PLA Militia and Coast Guard have been known to use powerful lasers in an effort to blind the crew onboard the Philippine supply ships. The only difference is, rather than point them at people on boats, they point them at pilots who are flying aircraft.
@@Rose.Of.Hizaki well, if they down a Phillipine flagged military helicopter by blinding the pilots, that would be a surefire way to trigger the UN defense contract they signed.
Sub Brief, I am a fan of your channel, but the Philippine Navy Seal operator who got his thumb cut off officially claimed that a Chinese Coast Guard boat rammed his RHIB, and that's what caused the removal of his thumb.
It was not because a CCG personnel cut his finger off with a fire axe.
www.bilibili.com/
@@SubBriefi didn’t know you are fan of Chinese RUclips
@@SubBrief you used a Chinese website as a source?
Great vid Capt 👌
Hey. Our neighbors to the north are building a new Destroyer based on the British type 26. The Canadians are calling them the River Class. How about doing a brief on these new RCN Warships ?
These are ACTS OF WAR, not piracy.
These are actions by a government,
thus CANNOT be termed piracy.
chinese only bring axe and knife, Philippine special forces armed with guns and rifles, and still managed to lose in this conflict is pretty funny.
A brain washed toad living under a coconut shell
I have a ? off the wall? Can or do you hear storms while submerged? Thunder?
looking healthy brother you can see the progress keep going 💪
When will they switch to using a helicopter to resupply? It's one thing to collide with a boat, aircraft are a completely different ball game where the stakes are much much higher.
CHINESE COAST GUARDS...
" THE MODERN DAY PIRATES OF THE ASIAN SEAS. "
你在说你妈呢，南海这个词是怎么写不知道？
@@Olivia-04th我喜欢中国建筑。好大的豆腐😋
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So chinese coast guard armed with an axe and some small knives was able to secure a team of Philippine special forces with guns and rifles? lol
@@FernandoLapulapu south China sea
I remember one of your videos talking about how great it was that we’ve been getting video of this to show the world. My question now is the same as it was then, to what point? China doesn’t give a rats ass what the world thinks.
So the Philippine president basically said speak softly and carry a big stick.
Economic sanctions and denying certain Chinese citizens entry to the Philippines would be in order. Trade In December 2022, the top exports of Philippines to China were Integrated Circuits ($220M), Refined Copper ($149M), Commodities not elsewhere specified ($87.2M), Coal Briquettes ($44.4M), and Nickel Ore ($42.6M). Source OEC world
LMFAO. China sanctions the Philippines, not the other way around. Ant vs elephant. LoL.
@@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane USA sanctioned China for years, won't make a difference if Philippine joined up.
这也好意思说
It should be noted that China legally declared in 1932 that its southernmost territory was limited to the Paracels (prior to this, their southernmost claimed territory was limited to Hainan island ONLY). 1932 was the year they first claimed any feature south of Hainan island and announced it to the international community. The Vietnamese were the first to claim the Paracels decades before 1932.
When France occupied six features in the Spratlys in 1933, China did NOT protest, as they have declared that their southernmost territory was limited to the Paracels a year earlier. In 1934, China again declared that their southernmost territory was the Paracels, specifically Triton Island. Meaning, by international law, they recognize that anything south of the Paracels are NOT Chinese territories. They only changed it in 1946, they created a modern map and started saying that Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly was their "historic territory" even though they admitted twice before that their southernmost territory was limited to the Paracels "specifically Triton Island".
It should also be noted that China itself re-published all its ancient maps in three volumes in 1990, 1994, and 1997. All of there "ancient and historical maps" showed that the southernmost territory was Hainan. They afterwards pulled back those books after they realizes that their actual ancient and historical maps were against the ridiculous claims! The re-publication of those maps literally doomed themselves in regards to their claims!
The ground for their claims is flimsy at best and can easily be defeated in court, which was seen during the Philippines v China case that effectively invalidated China's dashed claims in 2016. In should be magnified that during the court proceedings, China itself sent a legally-binding Note Verbale, where they reiterated their recognition of the 1900 Treaty of Washington and the 1930 US-UK Treaty, which recognizes Scarborough Shoal and the Spratly Islands as exclusive territories of the Philippines! They literally aided the Philippines' case with their own arguments!
It is the ChiComs that are the aggressors. In the 1930s and much of the 1940s, China had a Nationalist government.
I’m genuinely surprised the Philippines has not beached a more modern ship there.
With a more modern ship, they would have better facilities like water and electricity.
Also would help with diversification of their logistics.
They could use ships or helicopters for some resupply. 🤷♂️
Agreed, a giant cargo ship would be much better, the logistics problem would be solved because it can hold more supplies
So who is going to stop the Chinese if they decide to take the Second Thomas Shoals?
Us. Eventually. Hitler invaded Poland in 1938. We didn't invade Europe for snother six years. Japan attacked us directly. We declared war the very next day.
Chief, didn't you get the memo? We only talk about the ASEAN Sea now.
Hey Aaron, great video. Can you make a special covering the new Boeing REVOLVER System enabling C-17 aircraft to launch TWELVE X-51A Waverider hypersonic missiles out the caboose to hit the Chinese Navy? This is to augment the Rapid Dragon program, you covered it a while back. I think this dwarfs Rapid Dragon in capability. LMK.
President Marcos's speech reminds me of one of my dad's favorite sayings. He was a very tough guy. "Don't mistake my kindness for weakness."
Do the Chinese have VTOL aircraft? I’m pretty sure they just have helicopters.
slight correction, the NAVSOG officer that lost his thumb lost it when his RHIB (rigid hull inflatable boat) was rammed by a Chinese boat, the collision caused the Chinese boat to partially skid over the top of his RHIB and run over his hand.
@4:40 That is Ray Epps, a known Federal Agent and "Jan 6th" instigator, throwing the fire extinguisher. It's interesting that you used that image in this video. Is there something you're trying to tell us?
yup
Yes, there is some mistranslation in pres. side.
If you look real close, you can see the tip of that Chinesium knife instantly blunt when it contacts the rubber on that boat.
if you look closely, you can see some chinese coast guard armed with an axe and knives was able to secure and arrest a team of Philippine Special forces with guns and rifles, is pretty funny to me.
@@Jonathan-jp4zz Sorry, but the idea of bringing a Made in China knife to a fight is funnier. 🫵🌈
You guys want to rent one of our frigates? Lmao 🤣 most country’s know not to touch our boats
The Chinese, after WW2, charted these islands riding American warships
Piracy is the correct word.
from Philippine side they are special force , and fingers were lost due to ship impact, fire axe,?hahaha
Every time I hear "United Nations" I think about Colin Powell and his photoshopped WOMD drawings and then I remember why nobody listens to us.
Morden version of the Privateering Commission，do you like it? 😅
lol coast? the chinese arent even gaurding the coast.
Well, sounds like Philly has a problem. What Duerte say?
Bastard is a Traitor, when it's US matter they're noisy but if its Chinese matter Their Silent as fck that even a pin dropped can be heard
What's his favorite song? It's not Panama by Van Halen right?
My bad, wrong Dictator.
..politician does cowardice not leadership..
Act of war
4:58 The reason why chinese are intercepting the delivery of food to Sierra Madre in ayuning because they dont have food on their boat. Pity chinese are hungry . That's why they resort on piracy.
Given that this is internationally recognized Philippine protected waters, I'd like to see an emergency broadcast message from the shoal about a "pirate" attack and a response by the US with the littoral class ships to see if they can execute a supply run as a simple productive mission of life time. Naturally, if the PLN would like to escalate during entry from international waters into internationally recognized Philippian waters, we can correct them on their GPS reading skills with the proper assets to show them the error via triangulation of their erroneous readings. It's a simple demonstration that as the Chinese ferry boats drift towards across the straight to Taiwan, that if we cut across their bow with US assets before the landing, FAFO. While diplomacy is a subtle art, being blatant and obvious about the intended message prevents any miscommunications.
The Philippines also lost a finger at sea
Isn't this an act of war?
Why do they keep allowing this? How long is China going to allow to run a muck?
bro, China only brought an AXE and a KNIFE, Philippine special forces has rifles and guns. Real question is, why the one with guns lost.
Can they take china to court for damages?
The Philippine president should ask the good people of Alderaan how well a passive, peaceful protest worked against the Empire! (Just to be clear, this is meant as a light-hearted joke, not serious commentary)
Praying that we won’t see our flag raised upside down🇵🇭
Again, West Philippines Sea.
Possibly Philippine is playing patience and good guy and seeing how far China will go.
You are being attacked by angry trolls in the comments. You must be telling the truth.
Police arrested special force and US navy ran away.
West Philippines Sea, not south china sea. so disgusting..
I am actually more concerned about conflict with China kicking off because of something related to the Philippines than related to Taiwan. We have 'strategic ambiguity' for Taiwan, but rarely do we talk about the US-Philippines defense agreement, which could easily be invoked by The Philippines if a sailor or citizen is killed either with intent or accidentally. When bladed weapons start coming out, all bets are off. Let us not forget the hand to hand fights between Indian and Chinese soldiers. It can happen and frankly is more or less a only matter of time if this continues.
The war have started and it's getting worse. Peace
any news on the Houthies and future plans
I learned my lesson not to touch that topic on YT. Let other channels deal with that nonsense.
gangster behavior
The United States should join the international law of the sea as soon as possible. And lift sanctions against international courts. Deploy at least 500000 ground troops to the Philippines. Permanently stationed 3-5 aircraft carrier battle groups in the Philippines. Be determined to sacrifice 500000 soldiers to defend the Philippines. In the next year, allocate at least $200 billion in voluntary aid to the Philippines.
Dapat Lahat ng sea vessel ay may Mga CCTV at armas tig is a buhay he pag angers di na u so bayani
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What if we pay a visit to the schoal ?
Well, to me it sounds like the Philippines has accepted Chinese overlordship
The US Navy *does* have an obligation to allow for free shipping to *all* countries in international waters, imo. That's the whole foundation of our Navy.
中国爱好和平，不希望和俄罗斯一样挑起战争，但是也不会害怕战争。如果你非要一意孤行，那就要承担后果
Sandokan!! 😂
Does China have VTOL jets?
Not yet, but it won’t be long until they want one
no.
nope.
@@benbo4394 Actually I believe that to be false china will not get one soon. although China is good at copying American designs one thing they are definitely not good at is building engines the Chinese are so bad at building engines I would actually trust a dirt farmer in Africa to rebuild an engine
Where were the Americans during the china-Philippine conflict?😂🤣😅
sitting in the Starbucks，drinking coffee ，watching and laughing
Pirates of the South China Sea starting Jonny Depp and Xi Jinping, and John Cena
Meanwhile... can we get a diaper change on the south lawn and where are those cheese burgers for miss alabama?
It said i watched this but im pretty sure i didnt.
yt is weird like that.
Just a bunch of cried babies
This guy Keeps deleting comments that don’t reinforce the CIA and and NSA imposed talking points!
If you don’t want a public discourse contradicting your narrative, maybe you shouldn’t be making public videos!
I had my comment deleted but I think you'll find it's RUclips not Sub Brief
Tell that to RUclips, as RUclips is strict about this event on the Asian conflict that they're censoring it to the max
They certainly have a bias towards China@@fritzmordred4874
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Piracy 🤣👌
The Philippines sent military forces to participate in the operation, driving high-speed assault boats to ram Chinese coast guard ships several times; the Philippines threw heavy metal objects and other heavy objects at Chinese personnel, and also splashed unknown liquids, "which constituted a malicious attack." The Chinese coast guard only carried normal law enforcement tools to participate in law enforcement, and did not carry offensive weapons like the Philippines. In the process of law enforcement, it was "reasonable, beneficial, and restrained, and the handling was reasonable, legal, and standardized."
The nonsense on this channel lets people know that this world is dark.
This the kind of propaganda I expect. Well thought out, good grammar and replies to self. Bravo sir.
I think a lot of the rest of the world disagrees about the legality of Chinese actions but let's assume your claim is true for arguments sake, then why is the PLAN so close to Phillipine evolutions/vessels in the first place. Just don't come close to Phillipine vessels and they can't throw heavy objects at PLAN vessels.
Also it is not like the PLAN has undertaken similar operations before with water canon etc. Just keep out of Phillipine operations and there is no issue.
I'm surprisee the PLA can't afford better bots or hire better propagandists.
@@1337flite This is the Chinese Coast Guard, not the PLA. I am an ordinary Chinese, not a robot, not a government worker, and certainly not a party member. You will think that those who speak for China are bought when you read the comments here. You don't understand the Chinese people's love for China and their support for the Communist Party of China. There are 1.4 billion people in China, and if one in 100,000 people are dissatisfied with China, it will be magnified by the West.
@@1337flite This is the Chinese Coast Guard, not the People's Liberation Army. I am an ordinary Chinese, not a robot, not a government worker, and certainly not a party member.
Except J6 protesters have not been released
J6 wasn't a protest. The people who stormed the Capital building attempted to interfere with the certification of the Electoral College results. That's a Felony, not a Protest.
Exactly. Most held without a fair and speedy trial for essentially a tour, with many being invited in. It was a trap by the deep state, initiated by the FBI. I've heard the stories directly from the families of those involved.
It's hard for our Banana Republic to say much about China at this point.
@@SubBrief -- Which happens by other political groups routinely, eg the attack on the White House by Democrat rioters which required evacuating the president or when Democrats routinely disrupt official proceedings of Congress by seizing portions of the building. The FBI concluded there was no attempt to overthrow or permanently disrupt the government -- so your claim they attempted to "interfere with the certification" is misinformation contradicted by the FBI themselves.
The only difference with J6 from *numerous* Democrat riots is that they didn't murder anyone (as Democrats did at BLM riots) and they didn't attack citizens (as Democrats did at BLM riots) and they were heavily prosecuted (as didn't happen to Democrats for murders, attacks on citizens, or their own disruptions of Congress).
You'd make a great CCP commissar, Chief -- out here talking about how Reichstag Fire 2.0 was a major attack on the nation.
@@SubBrief I take it you haven't seen the footage of people being let in by security, but yeah "rioters" and "attempted interference".
Phillipine president looks scuffed. lets be honest here
shush wumao
west taiwan pirates
CCP - Chinese Communist Pirates
PLA - Pirates Liberation Army
Philippine Special forces has rifles and guns, and still manage to get arrested by Chinese with an AXE and a KNIFE.
“Disaster relief”
Propaganda in this guy is strong!
vagueness equals propaganda?
@@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle ignore him, he's obviously a wumao
@@admiralrng6506 I'm bad at spotting things like that
@@admiralrng6506 If you believe the US will go across a vast ocean, spend tremendous resources, surrounding another country with military bases for "disaster relief" you must be either the biggest chump or the most boomer person ever!
Whats up with the Jan 6 propaganda reference? I'm a long time sub and enjoy your channel being non political, please don't go down that route.
Do we need to pretend it didn't happen? Is that where we are?
@@SubBrief If it had just remained a peaceful protest it would have been forgotten already. It was a rioting mob.
@@SubBrief I think the fact that protest vs felony is extremely polarizing and will cost you viewers if you take a side.
@@BasedF-15Pilot -- Let's be honest: he didn't do basic research about J6 before commenting.
He's, ironically, repeating propaganda.
Philippino breached the agreement of not sending construction material to the ship now there is no supply mission
i used to be all YAAAAA GO USA! ever since the psyop in 2001 i was kind like: hmmmmm. and the confirmation have just been piling on.
I'm gonna touch you
your comment history shows youre a troll at most
You are a Russian troll account. Your cover is blown, time to make a new account.
u mean piracy in the west philippine sea
無足強電戰能力 不要挑動菲國鬧事
Whats up with the Jan 6 propaganda reference? I'm a long time sub and enjoy your channel being non political, please don't go down that route.
That is an example of a protest that become a crime in a nation with free speech laws. It is the most widely recognized example out there.
@@SubBrief Protest that became a riot, that became a mob looking to lynch people.
@@SubBrief -- That's a bad example, because many believe the reason it's a "crime" compared to other events in the US is the particular politics.
Eg, 6 months before Democrats in Seattle declared an insurrection, handed out guns to children, drove off police, and then murdered a 16 year old live on Twitch for joyriding on their turf. They executed him to the chilling words "Oh, you're still alive?" after magazine dumping his vehicle and with a single pistol round to end his young life -- footage as chilling as an ISIS execution. There was barely an investigation and no prosecution. Entirely by local police, no FBI involvement.
Pretending that J6's harsh crackdown represents a classic example of law enforcement while ignoring that outright insurrection and murder from the other political party isn't prosecuted speaks to a deep political bias in your coverage.
You are, ironically, repeating propaganda.
@@zmgehlke Your point about Seattle seems alarming but also doesn't have anything to do with the very plain comment you are replying to. How does a wrong nullify another wrong? Also, association of simple crimes with political parties/presidents/governors has escalated to such a ridiculous degree that I think we are losing the ability to distinguish between right and wrong.
@@buckwheat2356 -- I was replying to a comment which said that J6th was an example of protest becoming illegal in a nation with "free speech".
I was pointing out that this is a poor example, because it's a political prosecution -- ie not an example of the limits of free speech: events much worse than these purported "crimes" routinely aren't prosecuted, such as the "mostly peaceful" beatings of Asians and murders of kids in parks.