ThinkPad P50 Long Term Re-review!
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2017
- My first-ever video on this channel was a review of my then brand new Lenovo ThinkPad P50. It's been a bit more than a year now, and people still ask me in the comments for that video how it's holding up. Not many reviewers go back and re-evaluate things they've already reviewed to see whether time has been kind to them, so I thought it'd be interesting to do that with this machine. It turned into a more in-depth video than I planned, with a full rundown of everything I like and dislike about the machine and a discussion of screen profiling and calibration - an important aspect to this high-end laptop with its 4K, wide gamut screen.
If you're interested in a P50, Amazon still has loads of 'em available: amzn.to/2esVL1q
Or the updated version, the P51: amzn.to/2vNtUvk
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Your voice is made for reading audiobooks. :D So soothing and awesome!
I have been having this solid machine since 2016-06-01 and it still works better than any of the new machines. All what I did is that I increased its memory to 24 Gb. Solid, Solid Solid performing machine.
I bought my P50 two years ago. I upgraded it quite a bit (64GB RAM, 2 TB SSD) and I am very happy with it. So happy, that I even replaced my main desktop computer by the thinkpad (+ docking station). Something I never thought I would do, because all previous notebooks were not even remotely powerful enough to do real work on them. The P50 is finally fast enough. When I need to replace it, I will definitely buy the successor!
How is it doing? Still holding up?
Interesting review, but I really must mention - you have the best intro ever - not 10 minutes of sweeping product shots or whatever, just clean and simple "da-nahhhhh!" and into the video.
Good job, sir!
Hello. I bought a P50 because of this video, some years ago. It has been a great investment. Thanks for the reviews.
With each new video you rapidly climb the rungs to becoming one of my favorite channels.
Thanks! I wasn't sure how many people would be interested in this one, but sometimes I like to do videos that commenters have basically asked me for.
I like videos based on computer tech or home electronics; I especially like teardowns, showing what's inside.
I'm another user of p50. I'm using it mostly for programming on every day basis. The real drawback of this PC is the keyboard layout. I would pay even more if this machine could have an old classic ThinkPad keyboard.
I am having a start-up problem in my P50. Whwnever I start my laptop, only the power light blinks, but the laptop does not start. I have to remove the battery every fucking time I start my laptop only after the only blinking case. Can you help me out?
@@uzolpudasaini1477 why are you asking some random person on youtube instead of posting it on a forum or subreddit?
Great re-review! I also have my P50 for almost a year. I echo most of the observations, except the loose "H" key and HDMI/USB-C port. This is perhaps I don't use it as extensively.
Separate thanks for pointing out the hard drive size in mm. I was trying to find the info whether 9mm hard drive is supported but could not find any. Thanks a lot!
Thank you for making this, thinking about buying a P51
since i got 3 years ago a refurbished thinkpad t400 i am really happy with it .this laptops are really well made.they are hard to die.
I'm getting real impatient for mine to arrive the more I research this laptop, it really seems to be an amazing device!
That is re-review many waited for! Good job. I am getting on mine P51 higher temps. - I will probably go with the difficulty of repaste + liquid metal. Mine had after 3-month dead 4K screen (same as yours LG) I am still trying to 'get' correct colors (also built in colorimeter, during change technician on site also coded in new screen into colorimeter) - I think that it is much more dark than my Retina MBPr15" 2017. It does behave "strange" - even with "smart fan" set to cool mode. I also have 4yrs On-Site warranty, but I will mod it myself.
Regarding upgrades: you can go 2x2TB NVMe + 4TB 7mm 2,5" SSD -> 8TB SSD storage. Additionally P51 I have is 7820HQ (not Xeon) so only non-ecc RAM (up to 64GB). P51 also have multiple updates to the Thunderbolt controller from Intel (5 or more but they stopped to pop-up now and since 9 months no updates april-2019-> today).
Newer Windows builds 1909, have some 'tricks' that solve issues with scaling much, much better - especially when moving windows between monitors - and automatically changed DPI. It does work as it should as of end of 2019.
I am curious how you edit, I did have issues - I bought DJI Osmo Action (no H.265 codec) and 5 minutes of 4K is 5GB! So ... I tried to convert it with FFMPEG to 1080p, it takes 50 minutes for 5 minutes of 4K60 content to be converted - but the quality is very nice after FFMPEG. I do not plan now to fork out for Adobe (especially I avoid like a plague subscription-based apps). I am just interested .. did you do any conversions/edits of 4K60 on it and do apps use NVidia (I have Quadro M2000 in mine)?
Nice review. I have owned a T510 for many years and looking towards P50 or P51. My T510 is as good as new , even after 8 years!
Watching this on my P50 work laptop.
Mostly doing heavy enterprise development on it - so I've got 32GB RAM in mine, running several MS SQL instances + VS2015, VS2012, VS2017 ....
I love this machine, and I loved its "predecessor" W540 which is very similar to this in every aspect...
It's a powerhouse. I wouldn't want any other workstation laptop, besides perhaps the Dell XPS 15 (as it also comes in a 32GB configuration)....
I do only have the i7 in mine and not the Xeon processor, but it's still a beast!
By far the best work laptop I've had - ever - period.
Just picked one of these up for under $550 off lease (pretty much brand new in original box). I was shocked to see that the original retail 3 years ago was close to $3400!!!! and I thought luxury overpriced cars where the picture book definition of depreciation. And a quick look around and you will see thousands (not hundreds) and thousands of these 3 year old mint condition P50 Thinkpads for sale around the web. Probably the best deal in the history of tech!
Good review. I'm thinking about getting a P50 to run Linux on. I have a T460 at the moment - love the little beast, but I want something with more "oomf" now (and some CUDA cores).
Loved this video, and the pantone colorimeter I also think is fairly decent on my own xeon 4k model. I noticed we also got the same screen in the lottery and it is a nice one.
Are there different 4k screens for this model? Wondering because of some of the complaints I've seen that haven't matched my experience.
Thank you for sharing this information, I just purchased a used one for photography work and it is great. BTW, how about a review of that nice bass guitar in the back!
I have found one for 330€, will it be sufficient for college. I plan to use it for 4-5 more years. I am studyin electronic engineering
I also have one of this laptop, love it so much, even on lower left corner of the monitor start to get some flickering(little not much), I still love it, I simply can't find any laptop that have both performance and build quality like this bad boy P50 (except P51 of course) .
I have an L430 and yes, the materials are really really good, I bought it used. It stills runs smooth even with CAD and Solidworks
thanks for pulling the panels, thats what I wanted to see
Great review, thank you.
Interesting video and afterwards I found on my Windows 10 tower PC a Color calibration program in control panel for my dual screen monitors. Wouldn't have thought of that without your having mentioned it. Its a pretty rudimentary package but I'm not big into graphics or games.
Workstation laptops are the best. I just got a Zbook 15 G1 and it's just amazing how upgradable i is. Socketed CPU, MXM graphics card. Just a dream.
I have a P50 as well and overall im very happy with it, it shows very little wear and tear my TB3 is scratched to hell but thats the only noticable area. My battery however doesn't last very much at all but that might be due to the fact it lives on my desk attached to a eGPU.
Wow, I was first to see this video for once!
Man thank you a lot for the video
I use a AirBar with the machine and i get awesome Touch feature.Very precise & nice.
thinking about getting a p51. i here they are greeat :)
My W520 is still cruising along 6 years, 2 batteries, 3 keyboards, and a new screen later. I replaced those because they wore out! These things are fantastic. Mine has 3 SSDs and runs Windows 10 as the host on the main SSD, with CentOS and Windows XP as VMs running natively (raw disk access) on the other two SSDs. 20 Gb of RAM. I looked at a P72 upgrade but really don't need it at the moment.
You really like your Fenders, nice p-bass
Just added another 2 years of warranty with accidental coverage as my 3 year warranty expired. The P50 is still going strong. Worth every penny.
Consider surfing eBay as well. One of the big benefits of owning a ThinkPad is the large used market. I know you can get lots of parts from Lenovo but there are a lot of viable options on eBay.
I just found and bought a gently used p50 on eBay for a bargain. I’m not a fan of the look of Thinkpads, but I like their track record, build quality and power. After trying to use MacBooks and gaming laptops for CAD and rendering, I discovered that the P series Thinkpads are perfect for running Solidworks and the like. I’m planning on buying more ram and a new battery to have around once the original gives out. Long live Thinkpads!
i have the taskbar like yours, i love you
great video
Thanks for the informative review. I'm trying to decide between the P50S and T470P or T470S (I can get any of these for a similar price, I guess because the P50 is an older model). I'm a graphic designer using Adobe software and what I'm most concerned about is the colour accuracy of the screen. The P50S doesn't have the built-in pantone color calibrator, but that's not an issue for me as I use a Spyder for calibration. I don't do video editing, so I'm not sure if I really need a graphics card. I'd appreciate your advice.
Waiting for P53 I bought recently. I always wanted to have one someday but some other workstations came out and I wonder if the Thinkpads are still ahead regarding their durability and performane.
I really like the Thinkpads, personally I like the older ones before Lenovo bought it out. Recently I bought a ThinkPad T60P one of the last true IBM ThinkPads and I'm currently in the process of restoring it and upgrading it.
You made a great choice, I use a T60 (with t7600 cpu, ati x1400 gpu and an ssd) as my everyday computer, I can even do some CAD stuff on it. And the 4:3 screen aspect ratio is just amazing, something that you will not find on any newer machines sadly.
google's chromebook has em
Sgt Snazzy you know after Lenovo bought them they could still use the IBM name
You really have a good knowledge about colour calibration - could you do a whole episode about hardware and software you are using? I also use Spider 4 with its stock software and results have been not so good out of it lately. Time to get a new hardware or just change software?
Try switching to DisplayCal - it's free and it's much better than the included DataColor software. Setup is a little involved with a Spyder 4, but you only need to do it once. I followed this video and it worked great after that: ruclips.net/video/UMJnVmfChX4/видео.html
The menus in the current version of DisplayCal are slightly different, but mostly they've just nested stuff, so it's still pretty easy to find everything.
Colorimeters do supposedly age, though I don't know how quickly. But I've heard of people replacing them every 3 or 4 years since they may not be measuring accurately anymore. But try DisplayCal before replacing your Spyder.
Hello! I love your channel, and I love the ThinkPads! I personally had a T400 for about 5 Years and a T460p who is still in use by a frind. Those laptops are build to live.
Now my question: is the P50 still one of thos "Old School heros"? Is it worth to bye in 2020?? I saw the prices for the xenon droped to around 800bugs and would love to get one but there isn't anybody talking about it anymore!!! Pkeas help me with my decision!
Thx Dav
1:00 I love me some modern classic.
I really want a ThinkPad P52, but I think it's a little out of my price range, even if I wait until tax time. I guess I don't really need all that power though, so my rebuilt ThinkPad T440p should be good enough for a while.
very useful. I have a very stupid question, in your color calibration you mention brightness at or below 200nits. that level to me, sounds very low to be able to use it in a averagely lit (or sligthly above average) office setting. am I understanding correctly that to get best color reproduction you have to sacrifice brightness at below 200nits?
How it the sound? I'm much focused on the speakers quality and it's pretty interesting how this machine is doing
when i added my 2.5 i had to sand down that foam that holds it in place.
I have a P50 dual boot. I use ubuntu for programming and image analysis. (in parallel). It rocks. I used with the docking. The only down side is the weight. It is my desktop laptop.
That's so cool, have you had any problems whit the drivers in Linux??
@@doomsdaymachiene91 No. Only the finger print scanner does not work but I do not use it. Now the P50 runs on debian 10.
@@mmorage Cool, I want it to run on Arch. I didn't know that the new P Thinkpads come whit Linux, like the p53, which comes whit Red Hat or Ubuntu, so may be there is a driver for the fingerprint.
I'm a musician who's think about getting of of these P50 laptops used for my bands stage performence. I own a P1, super stable performance, no lagging, while running several VST plug-ins for a 45 minutes live set. Do you also make music with the P50? I see so many guitar and basses :D
Hey you should do a P50 in 2020 video that would be cool
I love everything about this apart from the numpad. Just not something I personally need. I'd love the power of this in a smaller form factor. T4xxp series?
Also. Try the soft rim trackpoint cap. It's by far the best in my opinion.
This is my second Thinkpad (had an X200 that went on and on and on...passed on to a family member). Mine is a refurb unit from a UK company who refurbishes ex-business laptops. I like their robustness :)
After around 18 months I'm finding this is overheating - had to reseat the RAM one year in when it started giving me a single beep at boot up. Under light load with lots of tabs, it's fine..but if I try to load a game (a very "light" one, eg, Ubisoft Monopoly), it overheats and switches off.
Fine, I think, these laptops are known for being easy to maintain. I start looking into cleaning the internals and you have to basically disassemble the machine to get to the fans?!?!
Are there any tutorials out there dealing with P50 fan cleaning?
Hinges getting stiffer after time is actually a bad thing, it means they are starting to seize , that's why you can see a lot of laptops from MSI, and Asus from early years with broken or spliced casings with even completely separated screens from laptops cause of hinges seizing up at some point and you basically brake your laptop non intentionally .
If they become even stiffer try lubing them up, or if you don't see any difference after exchange them !
not on thinkpads
$1000 USD for the pantone + m1000m model with touchscreen good idea?
Bought my P50 in 2015 and still using it, looked around to buy something new few times, but nothing worth money with similar 4k display. Running Debian unstable all the time.
What failed during that 7 years:
power supply failed 2 times.
immediately as I bought it I added Samsung 950 ssd. works very well.
I have 4k screen, matrix itself is amazing, and everything looks perfect in 4k. But I ended up setting up a key to switch 4k/1080p and 99% of time using 1080p - either software was not ready or i simply get annoyed too much as it heats up more in 4k.
Typically thing is not even turning on fans in Linux - no need which is best thing about this laptop.
I also had to disassemble it two and change thermal past - not really easy procedure, but helps a lot with overheating (which happens a lot if you decide to play some game).
I also bought egpu and it work well in Linux, but not in windows - something horrible is indeed happening with thunderbolt in windows =) However, not using it much, I have it more because I have old DVI monitor.
no mechanical or keyboard problems at all.
i think year ago rubber thingy around display started to tear apart in 2 bottom ends and i am too lazy to find proper glue to fix it, not 5cm is teared.
other than that it looks like new.
battery is 64% of original capacity
power on hours: 21199
power cycle count: 4619
Macbook. Same era as yours 2015. Zero issues, and I didn't have to load linux to keep it functional over the past seven years. I also never had to do a clean install... just kept upgrading the OS over the years.
I see you have a LG V20! Excellent choice, using a V10 myself.
I do, yes, and love it :) Recently replaced a Galaxy Note 4 that died with it. Got a good deal on a refurb.
Are you still using the P50? Still love it?
Finally. One of the few Techies reviewing PCs, notably ThinkPads--a line I have always adored--and not stupid M**Books...
Hello, I need your help on the upgradability on the laptop since I wish to buy this laptop.
1. Did you manage to install an NVME M.2 and are any versions unsupported?
2. Is your processor version supported with TPM 2.0 for the sake of installing Windows 11?
3. Have you ever dual booted the laptop?
I would really appreciate your reply.
Thank you.
thinkpad is life :)
You got SEVEN hours on that battery? My i7 P50 20EN got maybe 3 when it was brand new, now it gets less than that. Good thing I almost always have it docked. Yes, I know it's 2021. I still use my P50 and will continue to use it until it dies.
Great review. Is this still worth purchasing now in 2022 ? Was getting a used one at a reasonable price and thinking of using it as primary work laptop?
Definitely, this thing can hold up good even in 2024 based on hardware it have.
Yay, another Resolve user! How does Resolve 14 run on it?
I tried 14 when it was first released and it was an absolute mess. It took me quite a while to restore back to 12.5, because of the changes 14 makes to the database. But it was absolutely unusable; just crashed constantly. Maybe (hopefully) they've improved it by now, but I've got no real reason to take another chance on it since 12.5's working fine.
is this laptop worth $1000 today? with i7-6820HQ 32GB Ram. someone in my area is selling and i am interested but the price. thank you.
It has been a good machine for me so far. Few problems. Win 10 crashes from time to time (what else is new?) but I've been able to minimize the crash problems if I don't simply put the machine to sleep all the time. I've read that sleep mode tends to make Windows want to crash. Don't know if that's true, but if I sleep less and reboot more, I do get fewer BSOD problems.
One thing I'd change if I were to get another machine like it: I'd skip buying the on-board color profiling setup. That money would be better spent on dedicated profiling hardware/software. I found that all of the links (for, say, help) within the profiling app don't work. It wasn't that they worked at first and then broke later. They never worked to start with. This appears to be by design! I contacted Pantone about it and while they didn't comment on the non-working link problem, they did say that Lenovo prefers to handle support for those tools - they passed the buck. Wish I'd known it at the outset. Lenovo is not a color-management specialty company. Yeah, next time I'll get a product dedicated to that kind of adjustment.
You mention possibly doing a video about monitor profiling. I hope you'll have a chance to do that. It'll be worth watching, I'm sure.
Mike Arst windows 10 seems to be weird with sleep tbh
I remember this also being discussed in forums w.r.t. Win 7.
I haven't had any problems with sleep mode. Might depend on the specific hardware that came with your machine and the associated drivers. There have been some isolated periods of a week or two when I've had lots of unexplained crashes in a bunch, but they go away once whatever driver's the culprit gets updated. Those periods have been few and far between too; it's maybe been a couple of times over my length of ownership.
I can't say for sure if sleep mode is the culprit. I get fewer crashes if I reboot semi-often...and of course it might not have to do with sleep mode.
Do you have any recommendations just now on colorimeters and associated software? There's ColorMunki. And the X-Rite products. Once thing I noticed - too late - about the P50's built-in hardware/software is that I don't have any idea where it stores the updated monitor profile. Once in a while an application wants to know what your current monitor profile is. Haven't a clue! With the third-party stuff, I'd know exactly where it is and what it's called.
I use a non-Microsoft command processor that has its own "reboot" command. Two switches are used for "sleep". I use its "/w" switch. I assume the other ("/h") switch is equivalent to "hibernate":
/w - Turn off monitor and hard drives. On restarting, desktop is restored to the original state. (Not a complete shutdown.)
/h - Save everything in memory to hard drive. Shut down. Desktop is restored to the original state on restarting.
Sounds like the keyboard/trackpoint is an issue. I have 2 w520 and they still works very well. I do not use the trackpoint at or the pad if I can avoid it. But I do use the keyboards and wear is a minimum.
That said, when possible I use an old SUN external keyboard, close to 15 years old? Still running great. The IBM can't beat that! Soft, firm and not noisy!
Which sun one, the purple USB one, or the newer grey USB one? I think the purple one (with the palm rest) might be my favorite keyboard!
Not Bad at All!!! I would clean all surfaces with Isopropyl alcohol and then wipe down with some "303 Aerospace Protectant", a waterbased protectant made by "Gold Eagle Co."....expensive but well worth it!!!
I forgot to add that's I'm running Windows 11 Enterprise on it as I'm typing this review now.
My p70 4k rocks. Hey, I saw Picasa on ur desktop. How about a suggested tools / programs list?
I might do that at some point, thanks!
Do you still use this computer? If not, how long did it last (usewise or reliability) for you?
Just a side note I'm surprised that the replacement FRU backlit keyboard for the P5x/P7x series are quite expensive to replace ($150 new/$100 used) and hard to find. And yeah as a longtime Thinkpad owner anyone owning a Thinkpad for more than 5 years will eventually want or have to replace the keyboard. In the past FRU keyboards were like $50 to $70 new and $20 to $30 used. I'm not even gonna tell you what the pantone/fingerprint palmrest cost for this P50.
I did have to have my keyboard replaced under warranty. At that time, it was something like $50. I didn't pay it but it was on the invoice. They've probably gone up because the computer's out of production. I know the battery has gone way up in price too, which is annoying because I've been thinking of buying a second one basically ever since getting the computer, and never did because I never really *needed* one. But now I can't financially justify it.
Modern Classic Hey Modern. You actually have some great Thinkpad content on your channel! Subbed. When I saw your P50 video I thought it was your first Thinkpad. I now get that your approach to the review was to project the perspective of someone new to Thinkpads so your audience would relate and understand better. Very good concept. Thanks
I'm considering buying a refurbished P50 with 4K display now (4 years old). Is it a good idea? How is the display aging? How is the 4K display after 4 years of use?
Still great. Mine works perfectly and I've really had no desire to replace it with a new machine. The display is somewhat less bright than it was originally, but I don't take it out in bright sunlight - I use it at home (and before that, at my business), where I control the lighting. It's been fine.
nice fender jazzmaster
Is the off-center keyboard and trackpad annoying in real life use? I don't really need the numpad and it looks like it throws everything off.
It takes some getting used to if you're not already used to it. It's the main reason why I put my Windows menu on the right side, which actually helps a lot.
The screen is floppy because modern panels are lighter and smaller in overall volume than old ones. The hinges didn't change much over time, so they're still made to hold the heavy panels of the old models.
How's the battery life on it? Some claim 5 hours, others 10, some 2. I don't want a T480, too small. Either T580 or P51 for me. Thanks Modern Classic :).
It depends on what you're doing. You could get 5 or even 3, or you could get 10. I got around 7 with light usage when I first bought mine. At this point it would be less, because my battery's at about 80% of its original design capacity.
I just bought one in 2020 x)
Planning to buy one for my brother. I7 6th gen, Quadro m2000m model. What do u think ?
@@ShamzeerMajeed Was it worth getting it (if you did get it)?
Hi,
I am heading towards purchasing a Lenovo P53 for upgradability and dedicated graphics. I have been on the fence between a t14 and P53.
If alright to ask, is the P50 still your daily computer and if so, is it still holding up?
Thank you
Yep, still using it daily. It's pretty much good as new. I also have a desktop and it's much faster through all the upgrades I'm constantly doing, so I don't use the P50 for "workstation" tasks as much anymore, but I do still use it for all my couch computing.
Modern Classic Thank you for your reply.
I appreciate it
Can the Sata drive space accomodate a "WD2 Black Dual(128GB SSD+1TB HDD) Drive"?.That drive is around 9.5mm tall/thick.Will it fit?.Thanks
Not comfortably, no. It should be a 7mm drive. I tried a 9mm drive and it fit but it was very tight and bulged out a bit.
@@ModernClassic Thanks.
Exellent review , i would like to know more infos for people thinking about it for PRo audio use : noise emmisions and some LatencyMon results if possible ?!! if you ca make one on the new 51 it woumd be great ..
Thks again.
I don't have a P51, but on the P50, all LatencyMon stats are in the green. Noise emissions are a little beyond my ability to measure properly, unfortunately.
Thks ... are you on windows 10 for latency mon ?
For the noise , is it noisy compared to the eell for exemple (i own an xps also ;))
Yes, Windows 10. As for your second question, I assume you meant Dell... it's about the same as my old XPS 15. Usually it's silent. Occasionally the fans spin up for a minute or so and then die back down. You can definitely hear them when they do that. Obviously they do it more under load, so if you're doing something CPU- or GPU-intensive for a while, you're going to have fan noise. There are thermal profiles you can set in the Lenovo software to allow for more silent or alternately cooler running. By default I think it's set to run as quiet as possible (minimal fans) on battery, but you can also set that for when it's connected to power too. I might not recommend that, though.
Maximum *voltage?*
I know why the laptop is stable on the table and no longer wobbles. If you haven't figured it out yet, ask me here and I'll let you know.
For anyone hesitating over the 4K screen, the 4K screen in the P51 is MUCH better. I know from personal experience. Apart from this, the P50 and P51 is really quite similar.
How is the color uniformity and motion blue of the 4k screen on the P51?
On my XPS 15 which I'm likely to return has green on the left and pink in the middle. It also suffers from motion blur where black text turns green when scrolling.
I'm very sensitive to uniformity and blurring especially when scrolling through text on web pages.
Are you still using it?
Neat
I am surprised to see that the monitor does not latch on to the main body when closed. T510 did not have this issue. Is this going to be a problem? Can this cause any physical damage?
It hasn't caused any damage in the 18 months or so that I've owned it. It is annoying, though. I'd rather have a latch or even a magnet to keep it closed.
@@ModernClassic on the back of the P50 at each corner is a sticker covering the hinge screws. With a hair dryer and a new razor blade, carefully peel off the stickers to reveal the screws. With the lid open, loosen the screws without removing them, close the lid and tighten the screws. See if that realigned the hinges. If not, the other hinge mounting screws under the screen bezel might have to be loosened, the lid opened and closed several times and retightened to realign the hinges. If that doesn't work, try a ratchet strap! LOL
Recently my Lenovo P50 Laptop suddenly won't turn on. It turns on for only 1second, with the green power button and keyboard lighting up for 1 second, then it immediately shuts down. When I plug in the power supply, the green light on the back of the computer lights up when I have the battery installed. So it doesn't seem to be a power supply issue. I searched all over the web for solutions & tried doing power drains, unplugging/ plugging in the battery & power supply, running with just the power supply, running it with just the battery, & both battery & power supply. I did the CMOS battery resets, removing HD & ram then trying to powering it on, but I get the same result.
Have u ever dealt with anything like this with any Lenovo laptops you've worked on? Do u have any possible solutions? Please let me know. Thanks & have a nice day.
You can put a Xeon in a laptop without any catches to battery life or performance?
Yes, there's nothing special about mobile Xeons other than ECC support.
Even now a quick glance on ebay, the P50's are in the $900+ price range with many over the $1200 price point. They're great computers, over-built, certainly, but they'll still be working in 20 years most likely LOL.
What else would people use a 2TB harddrive for if not storage? Paper weight? (10:15)
Scratch disk for video editing, second OS partition, etc. There are many different uses for a big hard drive.
I wish they brought the classic keyboard back and added a bit of depth to the machine so there would be room for better cooling and improved audio. Was considering getting a P70 or P71 until learning about the white list for the mxm and the speakers being like two coke cans and a piece of string. I despise ultra thin laptops anyway and casual users dominating the market ruined it for everyone else. As a collector I like serviceable machines and generally need better cooling due to the climate where I live. Even had two Thinkpad Transnotes until a month ago.
Watch for the ThinkPad Retro next month.
Did you ever upgrade the memory and/or SSD? I am about to upgrade my P50 and hoping it goes well. My P50 is over 4 years old but still going strong!
I am am adding 500GB SSD $60 (Crucial P2 500GB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD Up to 2400MB/s - CT500P2SSD8) and 16GB memory (2x8GB) and Lenovo 4XB0K59917 ThinkPad M.2 SSD Tray Storage Bay Adapter for $15. Will also add an additional 16GB memory $60 (G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 260-Pin DDR4 SO-DIMM DDR4 2133 (PC4 17000) Laptop Memory Model F4-2133C15D-16GRS).
I upgraded both the memory and storage. I have a 500 GB NVMe SSD, a 500GB SATA SSD and a 2TB HDD. For memory I upgraded the original 8GB of ECC RAM to 16GB... I'd love to go to 32GB but ECC RAM has gotten expensive.
Coming from a PC builder and Crypto miner, These are Amazing the expansion capabilities alone makes these the only option when buying a laptop. 4 slots for ram and 3 SSD spots cant go wrong with these puppies, Not sure if the gfx card is interchangeable but if it is these are really the only option I've seen for buying laptops. Rest are locked to one ssd and 2 ram spots... just not appealing to an enthusiast. Also it was only 500 bucks in 2022 and works great still.
When (if at all) did you get rid of it?
and how is/was it doing (at time of disposition if it's no longer yours)?
Hey ModernClassic my dell laptop running windows 10 is constantly running 100% from my disk drive. Ive tried a lot and nothing seems to change. You you could help that would be amazing. If you need my spec and the model just say so. Any help would be appreciated.
How much RAM? And how long has it been doing this? Windows 10 indexes your drive and it can take a while, so if it's a new install, that's probably all it is. Bring up task manager (right click the taskbar and select task manager) and sort tasks by disk access. See what's actually doing it.
Modern Classic i will check this out tomorrow as it is very late here. Thanks for the reply
Try primocache
Modern Classic this has been happing for about 2 weeks now and this laptop is 6 months old and came shipped with windows 10. I have 6 gb of ram installed running a 64 bit operating system and a x64 based processor. Its is a Dell Insprion 3558z. I only have about 20 things running at .1mb a second.
Turn off the Dell Backup and Recovery tool
Still looking for a review of the ThinkPad P71
Just waiting for Lenovo to send me one ;)
HP is better?
Is there a battery with higher capacity than the regular battery?.
Not that I know of.
@@ModernClassic Thank You.
Is it still worth for editing in 2021?
For editing? Eh, probably not. It's slow by 2021 standards. But I still have and use mine for general computing on the couch. I mostly edit on my desktop at this point. You *can* still edit on the P50, it's just not always pleasant or easy.
Could you do another review. A follow up for 2 years after. I have been thinking about buying this than the P51 because people have complained about thermals and throtling. Thanks. :)
Well, nothing's really changed after this re-review. I don't think I'll be doing a third video on it because by the time it makes sense to do one, the computer will really be too old for the video to be of interest to most people. But I can just tell you that everything I say in this re-review still holds true today. Keep in mind, though, that a lot of people complain about a lot of things in forums. People complained about the P50 a lot at the time too. But for me it's just been a great laptop, and I haven't experienced any issues outside of that weird thing with the "h" key popping off while it was still under warranty.
How about now? Haha, anyway I have the X1 Extreme now and enjoying my first thinkpad. Your re review was the final push I had before pulling the trigger. Cheers
But what about low frequency PWM dimming for the screen? All IBM and Lenovo Thinkpads since 2007 with LED backlight are affected. What about P50?
No idea, I've never noticed it.
Could you try swiftly waving your hand in front of the screen when the brightness is set to 50%? If there is LF PWM dimming in operation, you should see flickering effect on the blur your hand produce.
I don't know, it looks pretty normal to me. Same as if I was doing that in front of any other light. (Though it's not something I'd normally do in any case.)
I have T450s with the IPS screen and I've never seen it. I lowered the brightness and tried the trick but still can't see it. I keep the screen at 100% most of the time. It has little impact on battery. With a 10 hour battery life I loose maybe 30 minutes at most? CPU and hdd have a much larger impact.