I'm inclined to believe that he really didn't use much early on in his career and is just a hyper responder. Coz you could be on tons of gear but your body wouldn't have the ability to put on as much muscle as Ronnie. Basically you have to win the genetic lottery first and foremost, then have to respond well to drugs, then be a hard-worker. Then have to have the appetite to eat a ton of food. Then have to be lucky to have a good enough system to withstand all the stresses and drugs you use.
@@theiceman7590 i dont believe he was natural but i believe he wasnt using as much early on. He was probably on the usual orals gym bros use back then.
@@mikebird5148 That size in 2003 Ronnie had with that kind of conditioning and being that shredded at that weight might never be seen again. It will be a very long time before it is, that's for sure.
@@billj4525 100% agreed brotha, I think the main difference with Ronnie is that he lifted and competed so long and built a solid foundation before he jumped on the heavy gear usage, ..that and the fact that he trained harder and heavier than anyone in history, then you have his genetics , with those ingredients I believe is why we will NEVER see another specimen like Ronnie Coleman.
@TheLusianPopa Iirc the mags at the time reported 238. I’ve also seen him say he was 235 prejudging. In reality when guys are that lean and dehydrated the weights can fluctuate within the hour so for the entire show he might’ve been at a mid 230s to low 240s range.
Man, I would like to thank you for your excellent work! But above all, for your sense of humor! You make me laugh every time😅 "peeeeled", "big man chest"... Thanks Marx Max! Eric, Québec.
great topic! I was around when dorian released the b&W pics in flex. It was literally shocking!! Ronnie went from natty to juiced which Is why he had such a pronounced change! Beastwood did something similar actually. Benazziza had a huge transformation in one yr as well. The first yr he turned heavywheight. Unfortunately he died shortly after..
2:05 - 1975 Arnold, although downsized, was still awesome, and probably his sharpest condition ever!! That pic showing his lats, chest and arms is amazing!! It's a pic I haven't seen before.
Arnold did it, ronnie did it, hell during the 2013 olympia they only made Phil pose down once they took him off stage it was a wrap no one was close they spent rest of the time comparing everyone else
wrestlers who had the craziest one yr improvement: beefcake to disciple (unrecognizable),The original rock muracco-went from fat to bodybuilder in one yr... Steiner to Big Poppa, Jinder Mahal prob the craziest of all time....Bulldog honorable mention. Did I miss anyone?
IMO Ronnie sacrificed his good genetics: small, tight, waist/ab section for mountains of mass & it was all downhill from there. Yeah, he won titles, the bodybuilding community hails those years, but I'll take RC in the early to mid-90's over any of his 300 lb Olympias. The bloated mass monster just isn't aesthetic by my likes.
Yates sized down in 1991/1992. Not all gains in 1993 were achieved after 92, but of course, a certain change in his PED protocol helped to initiate the mass monster era...
The thing with Ronnie is that he wasnt just big, he had insane muscle bellies and every bodypart was crazy good, he may have one of the best bicep peaks ever, maybe the best chest ever, IMO the best wheels ever, the greatest back ever, the greatest glutes ever, the best traps ever, .....Coleman was simply a genetic freak!
1995 Ronnie Coleman was aestetic. The 2000:s coleman was a bloated mass monster with exteded belly and extremely bad looking abdominals. Just upper abs and a very, very wide gap betwen them. Extremely blocky looking and the belly just went forward when relaxed. Just destroyed his physique from 95 till 2002.
im surprised with Rhoden for sure..Ronnie is just stupid LOL. Many can agree his physique wasnt pretty. BUT we can also agree he was exactly what the Olympia needed..A TOTAL FREAK ..
Arnold like Conor Mac Gregor revolutionized bodybuilding and UFC. Both are so overrated. Arnold had skinny legs but he had the same big mouth as Conor.
"Some --Chad Nichols-- aliens picked him (Ronnie) up, gave him some enhancements..." Yeah buddy, a whole lotta chemicals 😂 he did train like an animal but that body of his responded to every "enhancement" thrown at it.
Ronnie and Dorian are my favorite because of their mentality and where they come from but honestly would rather look like Flex,Kevin,or even shawn ray.
Ronnie’s a guy where it’s very easy to understand why someone wouldn’t be a fan of his physique but it’s also equally easy to understand why that physique won so much
The arm size discrepancy between ronnie's Olimpias has to be studied.
I'm inclined to believe that he really didn't use much early on in his career and is just a hyper responder. Coz you could be on tons of gear but your body wouldn't have the ability to put on as much muscle as Ronnie.
Basically you have to win the genetic lottery first and foremost, then have to respond well to drugs, then be a hard-worker. Then have to have the appetite to eat a ton of food. Then have to be lucky to have a good enough system to withstand all the stresses and drugs you use.
@@supercowgaminghe stopped training arms after they got too big
@@supercowgamingliterally genetic lottery
@@supercowgamingYou think this enhances the chance Ronnie was actually natty early in his career?
@@theiceman7590 i dont believe he was natural but i believe he wasnt using as much early on. He was probably on the usual orals gym bros use back then.
Lunsford's 212 to open 2nd place finish is probably the most drastic.
Nahhh, he was purposely downsizing for the 212, Ronnie was already in the open division and made these huge gains, way more impressive
Lunstarm is a midget 5.2 never compeer him again to big Ronny
Big Ron 03 was the best and most muscular bodybuilder of all time
And I don't think his 03 will ever be matched again......
@@mikebird5148 💯 true buddy
@@mikebird5148 That size in 2003 Ronnie had with that kind of conditioning and being that shredded at that weight might never be seen again. It will be a very long time before it is, that's for sure.
@@billj4525 100% agreed brotha, I think the main difference with Ronnie is that he lifted and competed so long and built a solid foundation before he jumped on the heavy gear usage, ..that and the fact that he trained harder and heavier than anyone in history, then you have his genetics , with those ingredients I believe is why we will NEVER see another specimen like Ronnie Coleman.
Dorian was 242 at the 92 Olympia, 257 at the 93
Dorian was 238 in 92.
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@TheLusianPopa Iirc the mags at the time reported 238. I’ve also seen him say he was 235 prejudging. In reality when guys are that lean and dehydrated the weights can fluctuate within the hour so for the entire show he might’ve been at a mid 230s to low 240s range.
Are you crazy ??? How can he be 242 or 238? A man can't be that old ! You liars!!
@@doublem1975x In Muscle and Fitness it says 242, not sure about Flex
Tom Platz 1980 to 1981 - biggest transformation I’ve ever seen
because he finally listened to Mentzer’s diet plan instead of Schwarzanegger 😉
Man, I would like to thank you for your excellent work! But above all, for your sense of humor! You make me laugh every time😅 "peeeeled", "big man chest"... Thanks Marx Max! Eric, Québec.
Another honorable mention: Cbum from 2019 to 2020
Came in with a completely different back
Fascinating video. Enjoyed it.
Good Morning sir! Love when you do these "ol school/back in the day vids.
Good looking out
Phil Heath 2007 Arnold Classic - 2008 Ironman Pro. I remember when those 2008 prep pics from the gym came out. Dude put quality size on everywhere.
ramy 2021 to 2022 is a good mention
great topic! I was around when dorian released the b&W pics in flex. It was literally shocking!! Ronnie went from natty to juiced which Is why he had such a pronounced change! Beastwood did something similar actually. Benazziza had a huge transformation in one yr as well. The first yr he turned heavywheight. Unfortunately he died shortly after..
Levrone 93 - 94 is a huge difference in size
I liked how leverone looked in 92 though . Fucking peeled out of his mind and completely proportioned upped to lower body
2:05 - 1975 Arnold, although downsized, was still awesome, and probably his sharpest condition ever!!
That pic showing his lats, chest and arms is amazing!! It's a pic I haven't seen before.
His legs were non existent . Along with his triceps and delts
Man still to this day Dorian Yates proportions and size and symmetry is amazing..too bad he had to lose some of that muscle when on stage...
shawn rhoden created saying you won an competition before winning it
? Huh
Lol Arnold? Many more said it first.
@@johnnycampbell7691 exactly 👍🏻
Arnold did it, ronnie did it, hell during the 2013 olympia they only made Phil pose down once they took him off stage it was a wrap no one was close they spent rest of the time comparing everyone else
Derek Lundsford deserves a honorable mention too. He made massive improvements from last year to this year
No body wants to see his soft oil filled arms out be even softer and oilier a year later.
Frank Zane could also make this list, in 79 was 195 and had decent size. In 1980 he was probably only 180 due to that injury a couple month prior
Shawn Rhoden's legs are underrated!
21 years ago and I still agree it’s hard to wrap your head around 2003 Ronnie. Left the planet !
wrestlers who had the craziest one yr improvement: beefcake to disciple (unrecognizable),The original rock muracco-went from fat to bodybuilder in one yr... Steiner to Big Poppa, Jinder Mahal prob the craziest of all time....Bulldog honorable mention. Did I miss anyone?
Bro can you swing a link to the video of Shawn saying “peeled” please ..I’ve been looking all over for it lol
It's an RX muscle interview I believe shortly after he won in 18.
He sounds nothing like Marx impression trust me 😂
18 mro press conference
IMO Ronnie sacrificed his good genetics: small, tight, waist/ab section for mountains of mass & it was all downhill from there. Yeah, he won titles, the bodybuilding community hails those years, but I'll take RC in the early to mid-90's over any of his 300 lb Olympias. The bloated mass monster just isn't aesthetic by my likes.
He changed the game, plain and simple.
Ronnie Coleman 2003 is the undefeated physique in all of open bodybuilding.
Yates sized down in 1991/1992. Not all gains in 1993 were achieved after 92, but of course, a certain change in his PED protocol helped to initiate the mass monster era...
Dorian went in one year to a T- REX.and oh he said , i didnt take much… lol
Man 1993 dorian is one of the best physiques ever
Ronnie winning the 2001 Arnold Classic was probably his best form, huge and absolutely ripped.
This will be an interesting video
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The thing with Ronnie is that he wasnt just big, he had insane muscle bellies and every bodypart was crazy good, he may have one of the best bicep peaks ever, maybe the best chest ever, IMO the best wheels ever, the greatest back ever, the greatest glutes ever, the best traps ever, .....Coleman was simply a genetic freak!
That's your opinion.
Not a fact
1995 Ronnie Coleman was aestetic. The 2000:s coleman was a bloated mass monster with exteded belly and extremely bad looking abdominals. Just upper abs and a very, very wide gap betwen them. Extremely blocky looking and the belly just went forward when relaxed. Just destroyed his physique from 95 till 2002.
@@Magnus_Loov 98, 99 Coleman was INSANE! absolutely NO BELLY
Wow this was grrreat
I believe Wesley Vissers could make a case here jumping from 7th to 1st
Do a Best Skeleton video!
all the way big dude
oh no, not the testing 1 2 3
Usually pros measure their roid intake in mgs, but I'm 100% sure Coleman did that in grams. Lightweight baby!
Ronnie is the best. He could be 300lbs and still symmetrical.
Dorian Yates my favorite bodybuilder ever
Please do a vid on Breon (AC ohio) vs (ramon dink AC OHIO)
Just these 2 against each other
Brandon curry before Kuwait versus after
would have been cool to see wesley vissers in here.
im surprised with Rhoden for sure..Ronnie is just stupid LOL. Many can agree his physique wasnt pretty. BUT we can also agree he was exactly what the Olympia needed..A TOTAL FREAK ..
The welders made right bet on Ronnie - to this day we still rave about Ronnie! A great CEO knows what the people want.
Yet he also had an incredibly aesthetic physique pre 98.
The thing is he had a pretty physique before he put on all that mass
where's derek lunsford, from 212 jump to open bodybuilding?
Arnold was 245lbs in 74 and 232 in 75. He was 13lbs down, but pretty much all of it was in the legs
I've heard he was as low as 227 in 75.
Only Arnold knows what his weights were. It was reported that Arnold was 247 in 74 and 225 in 75.
@@jimking7020 Why was he so much smaller?
Cutlers right leg always threw me off.
Arnold like Conor Mac Gregor revolutionized bodybuilding and UFC. Both are so overrated. Arnold had skinny legs but he had the same big mouth as Conor.
I think everyone forgets Jay Cutler
If I am correct Arnold's heaviest weight was 237lb at the 74 olympia and 225lb in 75. This was after his role in the movie stay hungry
The 237 is a Mike Mentzer quote, not a reliable source IMO.
@jimking7020 it is a mentzer quote my friend.
I believe that it was a personal conversation that they had when they were both on good talking terms.
"Some --Chad Nichols-- aliens picked him (Ronnie) up, gave him some enhancements..." Yeah buddy, a whole lotta chemicals 😂 he did train like an animal but that body of his responded to every "enhancement" thrown at it.
No he was natty
@@bobmantheawesome - until 1997-ish, then he "leveled up."
Not taking anything away from him but probably started taking gh insulin big already
Dorian yates was natural as well !
And a vegan!
😂
The drugs improved over time
How about Brandon Curry 2016-2017
Haney but from ‘83 to ‘84
Note: in 2002 ronnie was about to die and hospitalized before the O..!!
Ronnie coleman 1996 vs 2002
Arnold never competed at over 238lbs..74 was his biggest...
I'm commenting at the start of this video guessing that Jay Cutler from 2008 to 2009 is in this video. Like this video if you were guessing the same.
where is kevin levrone??!!
Phil hearh 10-11
Not sure how I survived watching 4 minutes of this video with such awful commenting
50lbs on stage doesn't look anywhere near as much when compared to real-life
Ronnie Coleman was never skinny looking.
You have to stop lifting with your legs close together, you need guidance and a good serious coach 👍
Ronnie could absorb steroids better than anyone without dying
In my opinion there was always a better physic than Ronnie in every Olympia he won Kevin levrone Nasir
Arnold was 6” and 240!!
Medical documents say 6ft2
Ross Flanigan vs Hadi Choopan lower body only 🤓 #randomcommentwednesday
I never cared much for Ronnie Coleman's physique, honestly.
Ronnie and Dorian are my favorite because of their mentality and where they come from but honestly would rather look like Flex,Kevin,or even shawn ray.
@johnnycampbell7691 I understand. I prefer the aesthetics of classic physique. Bumstead, Dino & Urs.. old Arnold etc.
Ronnie’s a guy where it’s very easy to understand why someone wouldn’t be a fan of his physique but it’s also equally easy to understand why that physique won so much
@@johnnycampbell7691why "even"? Shawn ray was great
Rhoden never ever deserved the O.
second
I'm sure Arnold was more like 220 back then