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I recently watched a video for dealing with getting rid of swirls, scratches and imperfections in black paint(I have a black 07 Lexus GS450h) and in that video the guys used RUPES Coarse Compound for Polish & Swirl Remover...and then he used a polishing compound after that. You only use the polishing compound in your video. What's the difference? Great video! Thanks!
Just as you mentioned "coarse compound", he was attacking the paint in a very aggressive way. Normally the reason to get that aggressive would be if the paint is very hard in consistency. This paint was soft, so in didn't have to go in an aggressive route. If this was hard paint I would have increased the aggressiveness until I ran out of options or polish until said scratches were removed. If I ran out of options I may compound and polish. Hope this clears it up a bit, sometimes it's not really explained why people do that it's confusing to me 😊
Depends, you should try black pad and menzerna, 3 passes same speed as on this video to see if it works, usually a good combination. I had to correct myself! The first suggestion was wrong! Thanks for your support!
Great video and content! 2 Questions to you: When you finished the polishing with Black pad and 3800 wax, I still see some small scratches. Shouldn't we go further with another level of correction to remove deeper scratches? Just trying to understand if I need to go deeper. Also, is there any other way to check if the paint is hard or soft? Appreciate your dedication and loving your videos
Hey Cassio, there were still some scratches yes! If you'd like you can increase the aggressive ness in order to remove the scratches that are left behind or give it another pass with the same system. That's up to you, sometimes I leave some of those behind considering the cars already looking great. Depends on the depth of the paint. Checking the consistency of the paint the best way I know is with pads not sure if there's another way, I guess if it easily gets scratched would be a way to know. No worries 💪🏼
So work your way up in aggressiveness until you find the pad/polish combo that gives the results you want. That sounds like good advice. If you need to use a heavy cutting combo I'll assume you may want to do a 2 step process with a finer finishing pass. With that out of the way, how do you approach doing the whole job? Best direction to run the polisher? Run with body lines or cross them? Should you polish your glass? Paint correction prep? What if some sections have deep scratches? Finish with a sealer, ceramic, or wax? Sorry this doesn't seem like a how to do paint correction video, just how to choose a product.
Think you’ve got the gist of it. It’s all about trial and error for me; I’m learning as I go and sharing the journey. I’ll try to cover more of these details in future videos. Meanwhile, there are plenty of channels that dive deep into those specifics. Best of luck! 😊 Till next time :)
@@douglax7195 I use Rupes line up to go with their equipment just a personal choice, some others lake country manufacturing makes good pads as well at a more affordable rate
Do you think you should determine if you are working with a clear coat or not? First 30 seconds of any paint correction video should address this especially when talking about “what system” to use. My assumption here is that it is a clear coat car cause it appears to be a late model mustang. Not just you; most of you guys fall short in these videos.
This is a great question, thanks for asking. I like that you mention single stage as an option here because they're not very common and most people now days aren't even aware that's a thing! Now days most everyone or at least 98% of vehicles on the road have clear coat, and most people learning aren't expecting that discussion. Addressing a rare instance is rather irrelevant if they have questions about non clear coat vehicles they can search for that specific term, and inform themselves. But indeed this Shelby Cobra does have clear coat!
Agree most cars have clear coat but most muscle cars do not hence my comment. Regardless, when providing information one should be thorough. You could maybe mention that the system works for clear and non clear coat paint or does not work. Thank you for the reply.
Great Video. I have watched a lot lately trying to get comfortable with DIY. Yours is by far is the best for beginners like me, Thank You. I have a 1967 Camaro that was painted 30 years ago on a project car I am just now completing. It was painted with Tuxedo Black Dupont Paint with a ton of clear coat. Left dusty in the garage uncovered I gave it a quick soft wash years back and have been dusting with several different detailing Liquids with a micro towel and left a ton of tiny scratch's. My question is will polishing eat through that layer of the detail liquids and reduce tons of light scratch's or do I start with a rubbing compound? I am guessing to do what you just taught me and try an area? Or Have I created a problem? Thank You. UPDATE: Never mind I just kept watching your vids. AWESOME!!!
Today I will practice on my Black Van : ). My Plan for the Camaro is to start light and slow Keeping DA flat and not stopping on the paint with the Black pad and test an area hoping to not have to use a rubbing compound. I of course would appreciate any suggestions. Thank You. @@streetready
So funny really, you can still see the orange peel ,why not get rid of the orange peel that way its a mirror finish or is the paint / clear coat way to little as far as micro or way to little of it and thus not worth it? Its only a matter of time and the owner depending on how he washes the car and if he does it right ,will produce swirls and marks anyway, not even a SIO2 Sealant will stop swirl marks and water spots etc etc, why because your touching the surface and thus will produce marks, if you use a PPF film or warp, that might protect the painted surface ,but even a wrap will get water spots on it and swirl marks, so its all about making sure when you wash the car after the panels are checked remove the marks and protect it every single time if you value your car if not then forget everything i have mentioned and drive the car to the ground if you like? 👌✌🦘👍
Orange peel is a tricky thing, it is actually used by the manufacturers in order to hide paint defects. Think about it if the paint was perfectly flat and glass like, you'd be able to see every single scratch and every single knick so easily due to the fact that a minor irregularity would disrupt the glass look. Swirl marks will come back, it's inevitable, either by the individual washing the vehicle "improperly" or by the wind sending dust and dirt over your hood and car as you drive down the road or park in open spaces. Sio2 won't stop marring or scratching, the barrier built isn't that great such as that of PPF or Vinyl. Water Spots are tricky, you will be able to prevent them with sio2 products, the slickness created by the sio2 will give you more time to react to them, preventing them from etching. The way I see it, personally and I tell my clients too. Bring it by every year or two, I'll control the swirls by performing superficial polishing steps that prevent the swirls from showing so easily and yet don't remove as much paint and be happy the way it comes out. ( Everyone has been okay with this, nobody has disputed this yet ) Don't expect perfection, perfection cost paint, and money, and I'm more worried about paint than the money I'd charge you. And drive it like you stole it! Most every driver / client that comes to me are true drivers. These cars don't sleep.
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47MIfKC
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I recently watched a video for dealing with getting rid of swirls, scratches and imperfections in black paint(I have a black 07 Lexus GS450h) and in that video the guys used RUPES Coarse Compound for Polish & Swirl Remover...and then he used a polishing compound after that. You only use the polishing compound in your video. What's the difference? Great video! Thanks!
Just as you mentioned "coarse compound", he was attacking the paint in a very aggressive way.
Normally the reason to get that aggressive would be if the paint is very hard in consistency. This paint was soft, so in didn't have to go in an aggressive route.
If this was hard paint I would have increased the aggressiveness until I ran out of options or polish until said scratches were removed. If I ran out of options I may compound and polish.
Hope this clears it up a bit, sometimes it's not really explained why people do that it's confusing to me 😊
Excellent tutorial, what combination would you suggest on an Audi , as it has hard paint, but only minor swirls , keep up the great work!
Depends, you should try black pad and menzerna, 3 passes same speed as on this video to see if it works, usually a good combination. I had to correct myself! The first suggestion was wrong!
Thanks for your support!
Common mistakes POLISHING BLACK CAR PAINT!
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Great video and content!
2 Questions to you:
When you finished the polishing with Black pad and 3800 wax, I still see some small scratches. Shouldn't we go further with another level of correction to remove deeper scratches? Just trying to understand if I need to go deeper.
Also, is there any other way to check if the paint is hard or soft?
Appreciate your dedication and loving your videos
Hey Cassio, there were still some scratches yes! If you'd like you can increase the aggressive ness in order to remove the scratches that are left behind or give it another pass with the same system.
That's up to you, sometimes I leave some of those behind considering the cars already looking great. Depends on the depth of the paint.
Checking the consistency of the paint the best way I know is with pads not sure if there's another way, I guess if it easily gets scratched would be a way to know.
No worries 💪🏼
Cassio, I got you man!
Common mistakes POLISHING BLACK CAR PAINT!
ruclips.net/video/kGEk-i--45k/видео.html
So work your way up in aggressiveness until you find the pad/polish combo that gives the results you want. That sounds like good advice. If you need to use a heavy cutting combo I'll assume you may want to do a 2 step process with a finer finishing pass. With that out of the way, how do you approach doing the whole job? Best direction to run the polisher? Run with body lines or cross them? Should you polish your glass? Paint correction prep? What if some sections have deep scratches? Finish with a sealer, ceramic, or wax? Sorry this doesn't seem like a how to do paint correction video, just how to choose a product.
Think you’ve got the gist of it. It’s all about trial and error for me; I’m learning as I go and sharing the journey. I’ll try to cover more of these details in future videos. Meanwhile, there are plenty of channels that dive deep into those specifics.
Best of luck! 😊 Till next time :)
I learned more from this comment than the video, thanks Dr Pepper.
@@ElipticVisuals thanks for watching 😊
@streetready I found your video helpful. Dr P should've just made his own video apparently.
Great video!! Can you pls explain how you get swirls, how to look for them, and how to get rid of them if you encounter them. Thanks brotha
Hey Ricardo, check this video out:
Paint Polishing in 2024- Swirls, Paint Problems & More!
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Common mistakes POLISHING BLACK CAR PAINT!
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what is your lighting setup in your garage
I use 12 8 ft leds from Amazon, I'll link you amzn.to/3X8wMBu
I use them on 3 walls, top, right and left 4 each wall to cover most of the wall --
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sheeshh i just had this issue today ! used yellow pad rupes with rupes fine polish, all over the place hazing.. didnt now what to do hahahaha
Oh man! Hope this helped out clarify the issue, happens to the best of us
What brand of pads do you use?
@@douglax7195 I use Rupes line up to go with their equipment just a personal choice, some others lake country manufacturing makes good pads as well at a more affordable rate
Why do have music loader than your talking 😂🎉
Loader a.... loader..... 🤣
@@streetready I’m from Russia, that’s how we see it. Don’t make me send Putin on you
@@tk4835 no you right bro, you right. That's how we say it to. 🫡
@@streetready 🔥👍❤️
Do you think you should determine if you are working with a clear coat or not? First 30 seconds of any paint correction video should address this especially when talking about “what system” to use. My assumption here is that it is a clear coat car cause it appears to be a late model mustang. Not just you; most of you guys fall short in these videos.
This is a great question, thanks for asking.
I like that you mention single stage as an option here because they're not very common and most people now days aren't even aware that's a thing!
Now days most everyone or at least 98% of vehicles on the road have clear coat, and most people learning aren't expecting that discussion. Addressing a rare instance is rather irrelevant if they have questions about non clear coat vehicles they can search for that specific term, and inform themselves.
But indeed this Shelby Cobra does have clear coat!
Agree most cars have clear coat but most muscle cars do not hence my comment. Regardless, when providing information one should be thorough. You could maybe mention that the system works for clear and non clear coat paint or does not work. Thank you for the reply.
@@anomalous9448 you got it man!
As a detailer myself I clicked off when he brought out foam pads for cutting....
@@Reaperrr53 you should check out the Rupes classes out in Denver, you'll learn a lot. There's always room for growth!😊
Great Video. I have watched a lot lately trying to get comfortable with DIY. Yours is by far is the best for beginners like me, Thank You. I have a 1967 Camaro that was painted 30 years ago on a project car I am just now completing. It was painted with Tuxedo Black Dupont Paint with a ton of clear coat. Left dusty in the garage uncovered I gave it a quick soft wash years back and have been dusting with several different detailing Liquids with a micro towel and left a ton of tiny scratch's. My question is will polishing eat through that layer of the detail liquids and reduce tons of light scratch's or do I start with a rubbing compound? I am guessing to do what you just taught me and try an area? Or Have I created a problem? Thank You. UPDATE: Never mind I just kept watching your vids. AWESOME!!!
Thanks so much Mike! I really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment on my video. What ended up being your conclusion?
Today I will practice on my Black Van : ). My Plan for the Camaro is to start light and slow Keeping DA flat and not stopping on the paint with the Black pad and test an area hoping to not have to use a rubbing compound. I of course would appreciate any suggestions. Thank You. @@streetready
please lower background music volume or raise your voice. otherwise nice content!
Thanks for your input will be noted! 😊 I appreciate that!
Great video mate what's a alternative to menzerna 3800 don't seem to have it in Australia 🇦🇺🪃
@@mstackem meguiars m210, or Sonax Perfect Finish, carpro reflect, or griots has a polish as well complete polish
@streetready thanks for the reply, legend subscribed 👍🏻
So funny really, you can still see the orange peel ,why not get rid of the orange peel that way its a mirror finish or is the paint / clear coat way to little as far as micro or way to little of it and thus not worth it?
Its only a matter of time and the owner depending on how he washes the car and if he does it right ,will produce swirls and marks anyway, not even a SIO2 Sealant will stop swirl marks and water spots etc etc, why because your touching the surface and thus will produce marks, if you use a PPF film or warp, that might protect the painted surface ,but even a wrap will get water spots on it and swirl marks, so its all about making sure when you wash the car after the panels are checked remove the marks and protect it every single time if you value your car if not then forget everything i have mentioned and drive the car to the ground if you like? 👌✌🦘👍
Orange peel is a tricky thing, it is actually used by the manufacturers in order to hide paint defects. Think about it if the paint was perfectly flat and glass like, you'd be able to see every single scratch and every single knick so easily due to the fact that a minor irregularity would disrupt the glass look.
Swirl marks will come back, it's inevitable, either by the individual washing the vehicle "improperly" or by the wind sending dust and dirt over your hood and car as you drive down the road or park in open spaces.
Sio2 won't stop marring or scratching, the barrier built isn't that great such as that of PPF or Vinyl.
Water Spots are tricky, you will be able to prevent them with sio2 products, the slickness created by the sio2 will give you more time to react to them, preventing them from etching.
The way I see it, personally and I tell my clients too. Bring it by every year or two, I'll control the swirls by performing superficial polishing steps that prevent the swirls from showing so easily and yet don't remove as much paint and be happy the way it comes out.
( Everyone has been okay with this, nobody has disputed this yet )
Don't expect perfection, perfection cost paint, and money, and I'm more worried about paint than the money I'd charge you. And drive it like you stole it! Most every driver / client that comes to me are true drivers. These cars don't sleep.