Mojang Threatened to BAN my Minecraft Server...
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- The Minecraft EULA has been a major source of drama in the minecraft community for almost a decade now. Even to this day, it is unevenly enforced, and is leading to a lot of issues surrounding what servers can and can't do...
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0:00 - Intro
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2:59 - Why Do Servers ACTUALLY Get Blocked?
5:29 - The Big Problem With Mojang Enforcement
8:11 - Minecraft Gun Server Issues
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@@lpc9929 that’s so unfortunate…
@@lpc9929relatable
damn
What mojang could easily do instead is just require servers to have a “adult_content:true/false” setting for servers and warn players when they join. And boom, if some parent gets annoyed their child is playing with guns, mojang/Microsoft can easily say “hey, we gave a warning, and the server is set to true for adult content, so you can’t get mad at us.”
Thing is, many servers are still on 1.8 or 1.12, so it wouldnt affect them
@@plighting_engineerd Mojang can retroactively change how older versions work, they did that before
The thing is, it's not about the parents, mojang employees themselves are the ones larping as "protectors of the children"
@@lememz Why the hell do companies even do that? They're literally solving nothing and causing more trouble
@@lememzits called pg-13 not mg-13, Mojang literally have no legal responsibility to protect children
Fun fact the first thing you see when clicking on the multiplayer button on a new instance of minecraft is "Caution: Online play is offered by third-party servers that are not owned, operated, or supervised by Mojang Studios or Microsoft. During online play, you may be exposed to unmoderated chat messages or other types of user-generated content that may not be suitable for everyone."
contradicts chat reporting and the banning of guns in minecraft.
yes yes mojang i dont care about seeing swear words in the chat im not 3 like most of your directors seem to be
These either need to update the statement or remove it all together
@@_thresh_ *yes yes microsoft
@@_thresh_ the directors aren't 3, they're 40+, they're old fart boomers that are completely out of touch and delusional with modern society. They want money, and they will do anything to get it. They don't understand that little kids couldn't give a shit about swear words, they think Minecraft needs these triple A game features for absolutely no reason other than the old fart directors being so out of touch they think it's the best choice
Imagine the outrage if they started copyright claiming RUclips videos with Minecraft guns…
don't give them ideas bro
They would ignore it just like they did with the chat report feature.
@@Jamiemundy32 u cant rly ignore loss of ad revenue
nintendo moment
slowly turning to nitendo 💀
The crate keys being allowed is a major loophole in that your voting key has a
does voter fraud really count as gameplay tho?
Overall the biggest problem is that there is no stated set of rules, but only unclear suggestions. This makes some moderators either misinterprate at best, or distort the rules to make some servers fall into the category of "Breaking the EULA" because of their personal biases at worst.
In what was is a eula and/or tos not a stated set of rules?
Yes. For example, are the keys to the crates reasonably obtainable if they generate at 24-hour interval at the corner of the world border?
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 well how big is the world
@luke thomas bro when I say "don't do anything bad" to 50 people are they all gonna think if the exact same thing? No - it's too generic and allows for crazy misinterpretation. For example, I could tell a smoker and someone who stands against smoking to "not do anything bad" and the smoker is gonna smoke because from their perspective it isn't bad whereas the other person clearly aren't going to smoke a cigarette because, from their perspective, it's bad. Do I need to lay it out any more clearly?
Welp if all else fails and mc goes down this path we will just have to support hytale and hope that we can bring all are favorite mini games and ect there
Remember when Mojang was considered the good guys? Remember when everything wasn’t getting banned or at threat getting banned? I remember
Mojang was never considered the good guys more people are just becoming aware of how draconian they can selectively be about their Eula, things like this have popped up since the days Notch ran the company, infact he sold minecraft because of the backlash of one such Eula enforcement, history has shown time and time again that Mojang is like this, they are normally super lax about their Eula but suddenly out of nowhere they crack down hard alienating large portions of their community and then go back to being lax while they rebuild good will.
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Wow, that was a long time ago... I'm getting naustaglic just thinking about it.
@@The_Gardara A LOT of people considered mojang the good guys. I remember arguing with people who would always defend mojang, or pushing the blame onto microsoft entirely for minecraft's problems.
mojang doesnt exist anymore. its just part of microsoft with the label of mojang
The "nobody can tell you what you can or cannot do" line is aging poorly every time mojang or microsoft dose something like this
"With *no rules to follow*, this adventure is up to you.."
i cant even imagine how disappointed Notch is
@@Sawdust_ notch was the one that put these in place isn't he
@@ambientmanyt ????
@@ambientmanyt Wdym??? Markus "Notch" Persson left the Minecraft team a while ago as stated in the video.
The fact that they rejected furnitures because it limits the creativity of the players and now they're stopping fun minigames with guns is insane.
They banning guns are funny since there is a thing called gun powder 💀
What the fuck minecraft fix your FUCKING GAMES MOJANG CAN YOU FIX YOUR TEXTS OK MOTHERFUCKER MOJANG
Powdered gun
I always felt like it made better sense named sulpher
FR
Either its reverting to sulphur, or it becomes blast powder.
Mojang employee plays Terraria, has a heart attack (there are guns, sharks, and guns that are also sharks in the game)
But yeah it's really concerning that Mojang seems to care more about pixelated guns than, you know, literally exploiting children for money from gambling. Every year they just prove themselves to be the enemy of the Minecraft community more and more
Still thousands of servers scamming children out of thousands of dollars, completely fine according to Mojang
minishark hype
All about the money man it’s crazy because so many massive game franchises have a massive disconnect from their player base and fans it’s sad
@@SoupSnakeSal megashark hyper
And the SDMG
Damn, I sure do love when big companies make extremely vague rules, and change their opinion depending on who in that company you ask.
Maybe mojang should give everyone the freedom to set their own server rules instead of trying to have power over other peoples actions
i mean ... i dont want to be called slurs on every multiplayer server i join -- but if this is the alternative ...
its all a ploy for money
@@IWGamesYT Money??? By scaring people away????
@@LiEnby This is what the chat reporting system was supposed to be, but could never be.
@@LiEnby Don't the multiplayer screen show something like the servers being third party and mojang not controlling them? when you enter it for the first time.
Mojang has been on a steady decline since they were sold to Microsoft. The decline seems to be getting faster with the chat reporting and banning of guns.
But bows, swords, bombs, human trafficking, and mass genocide of mobs are all good in their book.
@@lieutenantgonads Yep. Makes total sense. Fireflies are still bad though.
Don't forget that "riding dolphins is cruel >:("
@@Mikustan39 two pixels are worse than literal TNT in a children's game. How sad.
Notch added suicide bombers into the game and he didn't care about it being cruel, and he even made an achievement about dropping a pig off a 50 block cliff with a carrot on a stick. Mojang now won't add any real life mobs that can deal damage because they think it will cause a bad influence. As if that will happen, it will probably make those kids be more careful
9:40
The ironic thing is, as said in PheonixSC's comment section, crossbows are legally considered firearms in several countries across the globe.
The server owners need to get some lawyers from both the EU and the US because this is bad.
But woke leftists think Firearms 'guns' are immoral and they have a social duty to ensure kids don't think they're cool. These tech companies, mojang and microsoft, are almost 100% composed of people with a shared political ideology. Think about it, from banning "hate speech", the vegan mob policies, to this virtual gun control! It's the iconic image of a gun that they consider.
lmao nerd
Oh and they broke eu law MULTIPLE TIMES
first with snooper settings,which were eventually removed,but literally added back in 1.18 and now this shit
@@Damian-cilr2 what do snooper settings actually do and why are they illegal?
@@jazzman7842Snoop for info without explicit consent iirc
And pretty sure the lack to see the info they snooped from you anymore is illegal in other countries too
2:47 I laughed out loud at that. W plug
Mojang: encouraging people to freely Express themselves. also Mojang: and any server that they deemed inappropriate with little to no consistency.
There's a Minecraft splash text that reads, "Also try Terraria!" Terraria has 37 different guns (20 of which are hardmode exclusive) in the vanilla game. Therefore, Mojang is advocating for a game with a similar target audience that includes firearms IN VANILLA GAMEPLAY. Just something to think about.
At this rate, I won’t be surprised if they change it to “Also try Terraria, but don’t use the guns, kids!”
*microsoft
Also, it's not like kids don't play games like fortnite and call of duty
At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if they were taking down mods they didn't approve of either.
@@TECHN01200 They will ban all and every third party content for Java eventually because it doesnt make them money. They will stop updating it too so java players have to move to Bedrock edition. And then they will just revoke all licences for Java
This wouldn't be the first time Mojang's been getting away with breaking European laws. I heard that Mojang's own telemetry is non-compliant with GDPR.
Mojang needs to be sued over this in the EU. As they have consumers in the EU, they have to comply with EU laws.
They also had to remove snooper due to EU, after which they added it back in 1.18 without warning and it's not opt in anymore.
Are there any mods to disable the snooper?
@@rohnekkdosi1979there's a no-telemetry mod for forge, it looks like it is working
No telemetry mod is saving my ass
Its funny how according to Microsoft itself the averrage minecraft player is 24 years old and theyre enforcing all kind of child protection
I like how mojang allowed and sometimes even advertised maps on the marketplace with guns and weapons. 😂
The gun thing is so dumb, fake virtual pixelated guns wont hurt anybody.
All of this reminds me of a good quote:
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it."
- Mark Twain
Twain was wise beyond his time...
Yep
Fr bro
sensorship is needed to stop evil nazis -- ron dezantis
That comment perfectly sums up this entire ordeal LoL
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Anyone noticed that lots of Minecraft’s issues could be traced back to the backlash of the EULA?
Fr it was not planned out good enough
I don't think my issue with post 1.12 dogwater optimization can be traced to EULA, but Good Lord I'd be rich if I have one dollar for every problem regarding EULA.
@@defaulted9485 >post 1.12.2
Try post 1.7.10 lol
1.7.10 is the best version, especially when it comes to modded
@@jondoe6608idk about a lot of 1.7.10 mods so I can't confirm if it has good mods but 1.12,2 is cool there's modpacks like RLcraft
I've just about had it with the lack of communication between levels of these companies, and what sucks is all it takes is one person in the middle to not care enough. It pisses me off
They literally shouldn't be able to do this. You paid for the software, you pay for the server.
They're degrading the decentralized nature of it all and are essentially slowly taking ownership of these servers.
They're in their right to shoot themselves in the knee and watch us create something else apart of their game and tell them to buy a giant ass server and host it for free like they want us to
And I tell you they would fucking not. They would market the everlasting shit out of it when they realise they gotta feed electricity and mainteinance to that massive lad
exactly, why are we not allowed to use guns and firearms in a pixelated SANDBOX GAME where ""you can do anything you want""!?!?
@@bonczy5990 cayz, timezs hae changed, its no old Mojang, now its Majiang, the tyrant.
What sucks is I don’t think mojang is gonna do anything about all this
Roblox, a kids lego game doesnt ban guns like the game arsenal or zombie attack
@@TheUnknownCatWarrior yep
@@TheUnknownCatWarriorlike 3/4 of the games are p2w with gambling
yeah FR
@@iprq7276 honestly p2w games are not that common on roblox its just that alot of the big ones happen to be p2w
Mojang banning these servers while still not banning P2W servers: We are doing the correct thing.
Roblox who do jackshit about both:
@@BlueRGuy it make money for them, ofcourse they dont give a shit
P2W isn’t banned
@@game_time1633it is, the EULA doesn’t allow it. Have you even watched the video?
half the stuff he complained about is p2w
I've got a feeling there's something bigger, as the excuse 'it's to protect the children' or something along those lines is never just that, there's always something else going on
It's always money and brand image related stuff from what I can tell.
We should set up a server union that fights for server rights against mojang
and netren should unite et fight for their rights, the player rights
It would be the ultimate PVP war. Us against the devs.
1. Hire an alpha or early beta customer into your staff.
2. Send Mojang a legal notice for breach of contract.
@@HungryWarden If by devs you mean lawyers and corrupt executives, yes.
@@peppermintpig974 they are too cowardly to actually do a PVP battle, they’d probably send the devs instead.
the potential discrepancy you pointed out at the end between the people writing and enforcing the eula is one of the main problems i had with the chat reporting from the very start, because what would wind up happening is either people getting false banned by a faulty algorithm (because making a perfect system is impossible for a moderation task), or the sheer amount of people that would need to be hired to look over the reports would almost certainly have some personal bias one way or another and make decisions that may not entirely comply with the already-sketchy-and-overreaching guidelines much like what is shown here
Imma kill you
Imma burn down your house
Die lol
Etc
All sounds very bad but are things players would say about in-game stuff
If they going to do this, they might aswell remove bows, crossbows and any other item that is considered a weapon
It WAS mentioned in the video that they excepted their own weapons from their ban, and fantasy weapons like laser blasters.
But yeah, it's all soo retarded
GUNpowder
weapons are fine but fire arms are not. CROSSBOWS ARE DEFINED AS A FIRE ARM!!! MICROSOFT IS GOING TO HANG JEB_!!!!!
Rest in Peace, the concept of MC PVP and half the MC servers.
what. the. actual. dumbfoundedness is Microsoft and/or Mojang doing???
it's not about weapons. the employees are leftists and liberals, they're anti gun period, and think they have a moral duty to ensure kids do not think guns are cool.
2:55 that must have been the best "press subscribe" thing i have seen since 4 years of youtube experience lol
mojang seems to need to learn the phrase, "dont fix whats not broken"
Mojang trying to ban servers with guns in them is literally a 1984 moment.
For real
ingsoc moment
Ministry of love be gaslighting us that guns were never in Minecraft
I run a server with guns on bedrock and i got the message and i replaced the guns with redstone firearms and that somehow got around the gun rule
I literally just renamed the guns and added a few red pixels on the guns and that was a day
They ruined competitive servers. I understand some we're pay to win but they completely removed the possibility of winning money for being on the top of the leaderboard. That just makes less people wanting to play. Also them blocking servers for "p2w" even though its not, just shows that the employees at mojang don't actually play to see if its actually p2w or not
Honestly p2w should be allowed anyways. If you don't like it just join another server
@@Nuva_ mine doesn't involve gambling
And no small servers on bedrock can even sell cosmetics or that. They only can sell the features of the server itself.
So congrats you're anticompetition and frankly just don't go on the p2w servers if you don't like them, doesn't mean they should be banned
Hell i host servers off my Xbox for console edition. No one pays to join a server without trying it and we can't make skins and all to sell so what are our options. P2W and people being charitable. And the odds of getting a charitable person spending at least $10 every month are low
@@ML-sc3pt I never played bedrock, I only know java servers, so I'm talking about those
@@Nuva_ In my opinion it should be allowed, minecraft shouldn't enforce any rules as long as servers aren't doing anything illegal, and even that should go according to the laws of the country the server is hosted in.
im suprised they haven't gotten into a enormous lawsuit yet with all of this happening
It will happen.
That would be so damn satifying, if mojang breaks laws and the EU basically goes "If you continue like this we WILL block the game here" I can 100% guarantee those e-mails are comming from "mojang" in the US. Mojang in sweden seem to have compitent people working there
Its the classic saying "give them an inch, and they will take a mile." If Mojang does this then they could potentially remove things such as PVP
*Microsoft
They'll bring back the love and hugs update lol.
@@DamslettesSIMP What's the difference?
@@ineophobe one is the master while the other one is a slave
@@DamslettesSIMP That's a very black and white way of seeing their relationship
First, we got good ol' chat reporting.
Now, we've got gun control.
Next, how much you want to bet your skin will have to be approved.
Everything third party will be eventually banned, even for single player. Java players dont pay microtransactions to Mojang, so they want to get rid of them cutting all sources of new content. They will force them to move to bedrock or stop playing
i really, REALLY hope not
..but i wouldnt doubt it with how things are going
That wouldn't be such a bad idea. On public servers I see so many skins of naked people it's not even funny anymore. But Mojang would most definitely implement it wrong.
Don't give them any ideas.
I immagine q new directive.
Skins with any pixel of red on them will result in the account being deleted. Red is a symbol for negativity and its not nice to spread negativity.
It's...fair(...?) to allow cheaters to buy their way back in for the same account? That's mental. Imagine if Rust or CoD implemented that.
Ahh yes, the game where NO ONE can tell you what you can or cannot do. I understand making the base game itself kid friendly, but Minecraft has a very large adult player base and the no guns rule is basically a middle finger to all of them. Good job Mojang, you pissed off the people who have the wallets.
Remember when Minecraft used to belong to the community? Man I miss the old Minecraft...
If you miss it, help support the development of an alternative Yggdrasil authentication API. We have the means to not be censored by Mojang or Microsoft by forking away from their control ecosystem. This is at least true for legacy java clients with the potential of freeing more current versions of the game through modding.
Mojang has royally screwed over alpha customers by imposing all these rules that are not contractually permitted under the terms of sale. Banning players for breaking "community guidelines" for example is not a thing that exists in my contract. Giving a third party the ability to report my account resulting in the potential of an automated ban is also not permitted. Banning blockchain technology? Mojang is not entitled to enforce that. Banning pay to win? Same. Bad language? Again, same. We don't have to like these things or play on servers that have them, but Mojang does not have the authority to impose censorship and conformity and has continued to operate in breach of their contracts with early adopters by ignoring their rights as customers.
@@peppermintpig974 Spot-on accurate. This is the equivalent of Netflix trying to dictate the required amount of lighting and speaker setup you have in order to watch their content. People simply saying "it's in the EULA" like this it is gospel. One can write whatever they want into an EULA, it doesn't automatically mean that is legally enforceable. Plenty of much more robust contracts and legal documents have been thrown out by courts and deemed nullified due to things just as this, there is an entire field of law practice devoted to it.
@@ForeverZer0 It is as you say. It's like Netflix dictating speakers and ambient conditions prior to watching a show through their service. They keep adding new restrictions without any regard for the agreement we entered into.
The EULA isn't gospel per se as it can be conditioned by state or national law. However typically the terms you agree to at the time of purchase have a more solid foundation, one way or the other.
When I purchased the game I was promised access to all versions of the game as well as add-ons. Mojang later on declared that it would not include versions of the game developed for other platforms. While I can be persuaded to purchase additional copies of the game to support such development, the four corners of the contract do not allow them to deny access and to weasel out of the terms because they are the ones that drafted the agreement and the other party (myself) is lawfully entitled to interpretation in the ambiguity of the agreement. And ultimately it was never my intention to take advantage of Mojang. Sadly they have taken advantage of me and we're in a situation where self-help seems like the only way we can attract their attention to the issue.
This has led to another infringement: Microsoft and Mojang are holding back content I am entitled to for free behind a paywall. They claim you are required to purchase minecoins, then you can purchase add-ons with said coins. No avenue has been provided for alpha customers to get that content.
Another policy that Mojang proffered at the time of purchase was that as long as they existed as a company that Mojang would provide authentication/server support for the game. This has been infringed through the forced migration.
Democracy
Glad to know everyone is starting to realize, this was all Mojang, never Microsoft
What is this statement based on? (i just want to know)
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 It clearly says _Mojang_ IP enforcement in the email author's name field. Microsoft is nowhere to be heard of.
@@iDontProgramInCppit's not simple enough to just say that. If Mojang is being zombie controlled by Microsoft or not, their departments are still going to be called "Mojang". It's just different now because instead of Notch, it's a megacorporation that is able to pull the strings.
And now that Microsoft is ABLE to pull the strings, and all of a sudden shit's starting to hit the fan, it's not a great leap that Microsoft is the one behind it. At least, partially.
If this was under Notch still, people would be getting pissed at Notch. And they'd have tons more right to do it.
I mean, for starters, before Microsoft acquired Mojang, I never heard of a "Mojang Ip Enforcement department"
But I am happy to be proven wrong here
@@jzburda True, but having "bigger company more bad" as your only argument is a fallacy. Not all of our inconveniences are caused by the big companies, some are caused by smaller entities.
Alot of these problems were beginning to form before the purchase. Microsoft didn't cause the problems, it just accelerated them.
4:03 I'd argue that selling unbans is a good idea on paper, but a bad idea in practice. On paper, like you said - if you cheat, you get banned, then you can pay to get another chance. In practice, though, this gives a monetary incentive to server owners to ban players, then just direct them to the store. Kids that don't really understand the value of money are more likely to take mom's credit card and punch in the funny numbers to get back on their favorite Minecraft server with all their friends. Plus, it means that cheaters with deep pockets can just pay again and again to get unbanned. Server owners can claim they're doing something about cheaters, showing bans, but that doesn't mean anything when the cheaters can just give the server owner some money and be back on the server to cheat some more.
As for the practice of Mojang banning Minecraft servers, honestly I think it was a bad idea that should never have been implemented, and should be disabled. It's the same problem with chat reporting and global bans, really, just from the perspective of players. Just like server owners should have the ultimate say in (and ultimate responsibility for) who is and isn't allowed to play on their server, players should have the ultimate say in (and ultimate responsibility for) what servers they connect to. It'd be one thing if this was being done on Realms servers, since those are owned and operated by Mojang and just rented out to players - it makes sense that Mojang should be able to decide who and what is and isn't acceptable. Community servers, though, aren't affiliated with Mojang outside of running their game - usually heavily modified at that. Even Valve (through VAC) only bans cheaters, and they allow server owners to opt-out of that banlist with the understanding that they'll be allowing cheaters onto their server. Yes, there are servers who will try and exploit kids for money since they don't know any better - but at the end of the day, it's not Mojang's responsibility to stop kids from being stupid. That's on the parents.
The biggest problem with it though, as you showed in the video, is the complete lack of consistent, defined rules on what is and isn't acceptable, which all but requires Mojang moderators to make on-the-fly decisions on what is and isn't allowed on a case-by-case basis, with no care for precedent. Assuming they're not going to completely stop blocking servers (which they should), at minimum they need to lay out *exactly* what is and isn't acceptable commercial usage of a Minecraft server. Letting their outsourced moderation decide on a case-by-case basis isn't fair to anyone, and giving preferential treatment to the biggest servers (like Hypixel) is morally bankrupt, if not outright criminal in some jurisdictions.
Thankfully, the issue of blocked servers is far less severe than the issue of global bans, since bypassing blocked servers just requires a Fabric mod (at least for now). Global bans are another issue entirely - Mojang has weaponized their authentication servers (which is how you're banned even on pre-1.19 versions). When you're banned, Mojang is essentially revoking your receipt to show you paid for Minecraft.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely
First of all, TYVM for covering the issue surrounding our gun servers!
I am still in disbelief of how Mojang can classify pixelated guns as adult content. Roblox gun games (Phantom Forces) can get an age 9+ rating just by removing blood. Why isn't Mojang letting us do the same? Since Minecraft is rated 10+ there's be no issues, right?
My POV on things like this and the chat report feature:
It's all about politics. It's not about good business practices, but control - control of pretty much everything not worth trying to control that will sooner or later come back to haunt them.
I’m pretty sure that they are just catering to Karens who are upset their child is using pixelated guns
@@catrybou123 I'm pretty sure it's not just those people.
It's true that this is the kind of behavior I'd expect from the folks who futilely think they can prevent people from killing one another by canceling the distribution of weaponry and portrayals of violence, but there are people who get punished by moderation for words they disagree with.
They seem to typically avoid trying to control the bad actors, but instead try to control the easier, law-abiding targets... just like some other folks I know.
It's all about control.
@@catrybou123But they don't care about slavery and mass murder of monsters.
@@komiks42 they finna ban making cow farms cuz it's "too violent"
@@komiks42 The literal mechanics of the game benefit from playing eugenics with villagers and animals. It's hilariously hypocritical and I hope they suck a big fat one.
PSA: the commercial usage guidelines *only apply to monetized servers*, guns are not outright banned for servers or mods
You do have a point, we're being quite blinded, ignoring the singleplayer and multiplayer with friends experiences.
Not true, Jenny got banned lil bro
it’s still dumb because any reason they’d have for not allowing it in a monetized server can also apply to a free server, and it’s not like Mojang is losing anything from allowing these servers to exist, besides maybe potential entitled parents as customers.
@@othlas proof? i believe you entirely but for others.
So what? If people let this shit slide this time how long do you think it will be before they add this to the normal EULA and ban them for everyone?
I am most disturbed by the "kid-only content" part.
My server has a deep lore that is not just the typical and boring "good guys X bad guys" with a good ending, sunshine and rainbows. It's more like a Game of Thrones story. With history spanning over 1300 years, conflicts, murders, intrigues and more... There is moral dilemma, arguments, shady decisions and even if you have a "good guy", he still might be a murderer.
And now I should be scared that based on this, I might be forced to close my server. Just because it's not kid-friendly, because it was never ment to be.
There is literally a story in the lore about a mage that forced a baby into a girl's womb by magic. A story with a brutal massacre where a few assassins ambushed a group of soldiers, they literally cut each other into pieces and only one, that betrayed all, was left. All this is not literally present on the server, but it is mentioned and you can find it in the history or talk about it with characters and NPCs.
It might seem sick to some people, but it's art and history. Nothing was always nice in our own past...
So fuq you, Mojang...
The issue some communities in other games and minecraft try to use the term "donation" to make the item 'unable to be refunded" it breaks the law in the US at least and other places.
My worry is that this is going to affect the modding scene, and not just the gun mods. Yes, they could go after Crayfish's, and Timeless and Classics, but when do we stop? Will they go after something like Ice and Fire? Mods that are based off of real IPs made by fans? Things like, (in my experience) New Tardis Mod, and Dalek Mod? And what about tech mods, I mean, some of the stuff that is kinda referenced in mods like Mekanism, or Create is not "safe" for children. When does Mojang finally realize that they, #1, cannot moderate everything, and #2, if they want the game to thrive need to allow freedom of expression and/or creativity within the game. Yes, its their game at the end of the day, but how far do they take this?
They already took down Jenny mod (not that I regret it)
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 YO FR????
Microsoft AND mojang employee culture is that they all have the same liberal ideology. There is zero real conservatism. Thus, they are having freedom without restraint to foist their beliefs on the players "for the greater good". Just like they made gun emojis into squirt guns when leftists got hysterical. Every community needs a balance of ideologies. mono-ideologies result in this kind of behavior. And yes, it is political. I am not simply bringing politics into the discussion. From banning hate speech to banning gun references, this has all been liberal politics.
We can cry about conservatives when games begin banning blasphemy.
@@BlueRGuy sadly but there's hopefully a way to get it...
Yo I'm about to download all the gun mods at least the good ones like tech guns and Vic's modern warfare and I am going to hide them in a folder. And if I miss one I'm just going to use the way back machine
I feel like letting your child (5-9 probably) go gambling in minecraft is a worse influence then letting them play doom instead. Guns in video games usually aren't very harmful to children, and letting them use guns in video games will probably teach them that guns are dangerous (with a bit of guidance)
agreed
RIP AND TEAR! KAR EN TUK!
@@SomeCowguy fus ro dah
Notch selling Minecraft to Microsoft was the biggest tragedy for this game
And once again mojang power trips like crazy, further killing off what little goodwill the community still has. If only minecraft had a competitor with more decency...
Mojang really wants to repeat the 1.19 update era again
*microsoft
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 The developers aren’t the ones in charge and Microsoft lets Mojang handle themselves, it’s okay to criticize Mojang (just don’t be like the “Mojang devs after working for 2 hours” dudes). They aren’t a small indie group anymore, they have their own higherups who are specifically the Mojang company’s leaders/executives and not Microsoft’s.
I guess it never really ended. 1.16 and 1.18 were the last great updates. 1.20 seems nice, but these decisions are gonna ruin its reputation.
@@TheCJBrine if thas, thenn why bann guns who are only threatening in jiunajted sztejtsz of amerika and not in Sweden??
@@equilibrum999 Mojang has a USA office, too.
hey thank you for showing footage of Guncolony, as a staff member for the past 4 years it saddens me that I might be seeing the end of it. We've put so much work into making a product that is free for anyone to play with no PTW features and to know that we could simply removed off MC as a whole for unclear EULA changes has been a shock to our whole community--I end this with thanks as you are putting light on an issue that will affect several servers and the future of Minecraft. (ps hold shift to aim down sights on GC--makes you more accurate and also can't wait to see you in play again in the future)
Hey! What happens of you move to no-premium? Couldnt you avoid the rules? Is it even possible? I know nothing at all about servers
Nice to see you here Mantis 😂
@@sekinnnnn1121we are planning to do exactly that and remove our donation store if/when Mojang goes after the server. We can't even take donations that give nothing in return because Mojang still counts that as commercial.
Just know that Minecraft servers cost thousands of dollars a year to cost and we are extremely lucky to be able to afford that without direct support from players.
Are any of the members of your staff alpha customers or early beta?
“You can’t have guns on a server, but feel free to end your friend with a sword or bow!”
- Mojang 2023
These arbitrary rules our Mojang and Microsoft overlords have and are setting in place are absolutely ruining Minecraft. So many things now I can't do in my own spawn world (that no one will see) that I don't want to play my favorite game anymore! 😭😔
He’s so sneaky with his subscribe plugs.
Ikr I barely noticed it
I fast-forwarded it a minute when it started 😂
@@SusieBlup you deserve a like
We truly live in the age of open ended rules that enforcers can interpret however they want to punish anyone they want.
Same things happens when a f*scist regime is getting into power.
I mean, Minecraft EULA isn't as important as laws of a country, but the pattern is similar.
Countless servers have had to shut down purely because of the EULA, designed to make servers impossible to make money, just so Mojang can force players to use their realms.
Shame on them.
Good. It SHOULD be impossible for servers to make money other than hosting costs. Modders too.
7:40 Lootboxes that comply still being gambling isn't quite true and mostly depends on local definitions of the law. In many places the definition of gambling requires a potential reward with value in the real world (so either money or can be sold for money), the presence of gambling mechanics without the chance to win more monetary value then the initial play costs is not gambling.
If mojang decided to decide what my server can and can't do, then they better pay for our hosting.
yes this is what ive been saying
Yeah, they dont own any of the features, items, sounds, anything you have coded in yourself. They only own the base code of minecraft, yet they act like they own everything, including the players.
HOA moment tbh. We buy the house, then have to follow a bunch of needlessly nitpicky rules like having a fixed number of yard trees.
They're more likely in the future to just stop allowing private server hosting. Everything will be Realms.
@@QuasarEE the community will likely still find a way though, and honestly private hosting might get even BIGGER
The strangest thing is Mojang trying to make Minecraft entirely for kids, Minecraft has just as large of a player of adults as kids. It'll be hard and I dont know it'll be done but maybe some kid of age gating for servers can be done? This of couse will be quite bad as adult servers can rise but Mojang should really think of better ways than just banning servers.
Sadly almost nobody realises that E means it's for everyone, not for kids only
*microsoft
This isn't the first time that mojang broke eu laws.Snooper settings,and bringing it back in 1.18 but not optional that time around.
I think the main intention of Microsoft is to kill off the Java version by pointing out one or the other reasons while not explicitly terminating java version , until we all be subject to their Minecoin sick Bedrock, because why would we buy marketplace maps or skin , when we can get them for free in Java. I don’t like where this is going.
After much study on this subject, I believe this is their plan. They want to get more mod developers working on bedrock plugins, but they still have problems encouraging users to use bedrock because of the bugs. Once they iron that out java will be killed off I believe. That way they fence off and gatekeep who can create mods. Banning firearm mods was a foreshadowing of their goals via policy.
I will be contacting the FTC over their blatant fraud, so watch for my future comments on the subject since I need help promoting the issue and getting other customers, particularly early adopters, to file legit reports on their violations.
Mojang can’t stop making L decisions.
Your pfp and username is how we feel
you meant microsoft right?
@@handlesbelike Mojangs the one doing all this shit. Microsoft is just either encouraging, faciliting, or ordering them to. Maybe all the above
@@handlesbelike Stop coping. Mojang doesnt give an absolute shit about you
@@handlesbelike No, it's always been Mojang changing the EULA to reduce the freedoms of what you can do with their game.
Honestly, I think that someone powerful at Microsoft is hiring a team of server "finders" that need to find and block a number of Minecraft servers per week/month that supposedly "violate" Minecraft's EULA (probably the same person that forced chat reporting to be added lol). That would explain why some servers get blocked and some don't.
If you're an alpha customer, reply with your sales contract and let them know there will be serious consequences for violating your first amendment and contractual rights.
Remember when you could do anything you wanted with Minecraft? I miss those times, and desperately want to go back.
It sounds like someone or somebody in Microsoft is powertripping and attacking servers they personally don't like.
About the entire gun thing, wouldn't It technically make It fantasy enough If the servers did something like valorant, where even though the guns are realistic, they have fictional names
Guns that are fictional yet work like real guns.
The issue we have is that the enforcement team doesn't even seem to know what they are enforcing, vagely following what the irrationally added rule may or may not mean.
The solution is to scrap the entire thing.
Makes sense, yeah. Fantasy game, fantasy items.
I feel like Mojang/Microsoft needs to do a full rewrite of the EULA in order to make it easier for players and server admins to understand what is and is not allowed, as the current situation just causes more headaches for clientele
Hate to break it to you, but practically every EULA for everything is exactly like Mojang's.
In theory, the vagueness gives them wiggle room to quickly deal with things not explicitly stated but very much in breach of the spirit of the rules. Especially important if people find a way around the EULA that breaks laws.
These days, it's used to arbitrarily ban whoever does something that annoys insufferable & inconsistent self-appointed moral arbiters.
I think videogames rating associations such as PEGI (most of EU and other countries worldwide) and ESRB (United States and other countries) might send alerts to Mojang implying they might change the recommended age which will be leading to parents not buying the game for their childs, making less money for Microsoft.
Yeah, that is a possibility
Wait but they don't rate online interractions, right?
@@insertafunnynam3 In most adult-oriented games, yeah, there is a disclamer that online gameplay is unrated
glad to see microsoft has their priorities straight
in 2040 mojang will ban their game for having "gunpowder"
They will just rename it to “Explosive Powder” or “Boom Powder” or something lame like that.
*microsoft
0 IQ noob gamer move
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast explosives are bad. they harm people.
in older versions it was named as sulphur
The trouble is that server owners, even as a group, couldn't afford to out-lawyer Microsoft into getting a clear determination on these things. So even if Microsoft/Mojang doesn't have a leg to stand on, well, they'll just ban you and there's no way you can afford to take them to court.
IMO, the solution is two prong: Constant social media protest, and filing legitimate FTC reports against both Microsoft and Mojang. I'm almost done drafting a letter but I am waiting on feedback before I send it.
And if all else fails, the non litigation route is based on developing alternate authentication solutions so that wrongfully disabled access or deleted accounts from customers in good standing can resume enjoyment of the game and break free from Microsoft's obsession over controlling it all (valid for all early adopters without a revision clause to create these tools), and get to pushing back when frivolous lawsuits arise.
6:52 the determined guy that didn't even saw his inventory while he was determined to open crates
Minecraft was good because the rules were decentralized and it depended on the server you played on.
emphasis on "was"
This is so stupid, Mojang why?
I hope you can get out of this, hoping for a miracle to happen
Edit: I did not watch the video and I panic what happen before watching the content.
you didn't watch the video huh
@@nilsgameking I panicked and curious what happen?
@@AniArtistMe ??????
4:57
*microsoft why
One thing also truly bothers me. And that is their blanket "every server has to be child friendly" policy, continously invading more and more spaces. I mean age verification is hard, but straight up not even considering the possibility that a public server might enforce age restrictions and therefore is adult only. I mean they could even help server owners out by adding an age restriction parameter to accounts, so that a server could say 16+ and anyone under that age (or with no age on their profile) can't join these servers. And then lighten up the rules on what content is allowed on these servers.
I truly don't understand their obsession with child friendlyness for a game that's so universally playable...
But then a new problem arises... People online aren't always the age it says they are.
A parent might choose to share an account with their kid, to save money. That kid can then get into the adult world even by accident.
Even worse, a kid could make an account and lie about their age. Who's going to be able to tell if it's a kid mimicking an adult, an actual kid, or just a troll screwing around with people? What are they going to do, ban anyone who displays "childlike" behavior? How do you even define that??
The only solution would be to force an account creator to provide official documentation of their identity (like a birth certificate, a government-issue ID or whatever) which is still massively flawed:
*1.* Adults are going to find this extremely sketchy and just refuse to buy the thing, which hurts the company's income greatly.
*2.* Simply due to it's purpose, that means EVERY company using it will need to have top-of-the-line security, because if that data gets hacked or sold, LAWSUITS BABY.
*3.* I don't know that much about law, especially all over the world, but that sounds like it could potentially cause legal issues by itself.
So no company will ever take the risk of implementing something like this.
In the end there's no way for a company to solve this problem themselves... they can only put the usual content warnings and simplistic age restrictions. All that's left is for the parents to actually pay attention... Do research, monitor the kid's games and behaviors, and punish them if they get into things they shouldn't be.
Remember when GUNpowder was called sulphur. They should rename it to said sulphur, give it a yellow-ish tint and make it an end or nether ore to make getting it a bit more enjoyable
Yeah. In Minecraft Legends, it’s even stated that the structures in the creepers’ homeland are made of sulfur.
I love the features that have been added to Minecraft since the Microsoft purchase but I think the game probably would have been better off if Notch never sold it.
I'm honestly not sure about that. Notch isn't exactly the pinnacle of modesty, morality, and good practices. Also, it would've been ruled over by one crappy person instead of several crappy people with a few good ones sprinkled in to somewhat balance out the idiocy. I'd say having several people is better than one person if most of them are going to be piss-poor at their jobs, or as people.
@@ElysetheEevee Notch did nothing wrong. Had some mistakes in his personal life choices, but thats on him. He is an excelent game developer, and he has a way better morale and love for his players than anyone who keeps working at mojang
@@sekinnnnn1121 Idk about that. I don't think Notch was an outstanding person. But I agree that current Mojang is fucking up though
@@sekinnnnn1121 The change of the EULA to "ban p2w servers" killed many servers and stunted the growth of the server community because almost everyone's servers became unprofitable to run and they could no longer invest resources into improving them.
@@sekinnnnn1121 It was due to stress and pressure that he had to sell it. In his words "Getting hate for trying to do the right thing is not my gig."
Server: *Has several pay-2-win aspects scamming kids out of hundreds of dollars*
Mojang: I sleep
Other server: *Has the word gun somewhere in it*
Mojang: R E A L S H I T
*microsoft
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 It's literally Mojang job to moderate, not Microsoft.
@@BlueRGuy i feel like the fact that everything seemed to go downhill after microsoft bought the game isnt as much of a coincidence as you think
They do know
Roblox has guns too ( and has an tool to make money from everything allowed )
just think if Roblox site took all their players to play their version of PVP
which was blocked by mojang to be loved by roblox users
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meaning every server will get 14/200 players per Day and
roblox player earn real money from roblox who has an devex account will earn
To be fair, the list of complaints you received is a perfectly valid one when you have a commercial business. The fact that so many companies do not follow these guidelines, and that the minecraft team seems to be so selectively enforcing them, are the real issues.
Honestly, this seems like random people on the Minecraft team woke up one day and decided to go on a ban spree without contacting anyone else.
Not valid if your contract was created prior to May of 2011. That EULA permits you to do anything you want with video.
8:27 felt like he was rapping 🔥
Can you imagine the backlash they would get if they actually blocked Hypixel?
Mojang will sadly get backlash in that case, not Microsoft. But either way, it will probably be unbanned after a couple days/hours in that case
Mojang and Microsoft clearly doesn't care about backlash from like 100k people, as shown by the addition of chat reporting
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 its mojang making these decisions, stop apologizing for them
They wouldn't care about the backlash at all, because it doesn't affect their revenue stream, and that's all Mojang and Microsoft care about. Why keep a community happy if it doesn't give you more profits?
They would be happy cuz some people may quit java and go to bedrock where rhey can make some money
Mojang 1.21 update:
1. Removed axes since kids can kill people with them.
2. Made villagers and pillagers unkillable since killing them is murder.
3. Made all blocks unbreakable as breaking blocks may entice kids to harm the environment.
4. Disabled pvp entirely.
5. Made all mobs unkillable since killing them is damaging nature.
6. Removed swords and bows.
7. Added 'loot block' that allows you to get a random block by paying with emeralds.
8. Since blocks are unbreakable emeralds now must be bought with minecoins.
9. Added minecoin shop that allows you get a random amount of minecoins per spin with each spin costing 1$
On number 2…
Kid: Why I can’t kill Pillagers?! They are hurting me!!
Mojang: Why not trap him?
Kid: Trap? What trap?
@@chargeminecraft booby traps are illegal
DO NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS
Yeah. I think the guidelines should be more clear. Mainly by listing scenarios that would result in a ban.
I really think this is someone from Microsoft that's pulling one over on us. I think that Mojang already know that the game, in and of itself is child friendly.
mojang is destroying itself 💀
*microsoft is destroying mojang
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 My brother in craft, Mojang does all of this shit
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 Mojang doesnt give an absolute fuck about you. Community management is atrocius and that is on mojang. Development is an absolute chaos and that is on mojang. Mojang would be the same without microsoft
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 no, it’s Mojang. They have near full control over Minecraft, they’re making all these decisions themselves.
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 Even if you really want to believe that, would you also argue that Microsoft sold MC/Mojang to itself?
Unbans could be compared to paying to get out jail, Which some people debate should not be the case.
Servers are not public organizations. It is comparable to breaking an internal rule of an arcade (but not something illegal) and paying to get unbanned
@@sekinnnnn1121 wait. You could do that?
yeah paying to get unbanned has always seemed fair imo because you can pay to bail out of prison depending on your crime in some places
@@fituuu agreed. But some people still dislike it because it means the rich is freed from crime.
@@sekinnnnn1121 No it's neither. It clearly breaks the conditions for charging for access to a server, i.e. everyone must be charged the same for access. A ban list is maintained by a server, and people can be banned for arbitrary reasons. Therefore paying for an unban is actually a form of paying for access, which is not allowed if the same barrier is not there for everyone.
And don't come with an argument like "yeah but everyone has to pay to get unbanned". That's the problem. Getting banned can be arbitrary, and it would allow the admins to blackmail players into getting unbanned - and Mojang would likely be held liable for allowing it.
If you wanna run a real-world business in Minecraft, you have to respect the real-world rules. The opportunity to make money off a private server is a *very* unique privilege, not some right.
It's insane the amount of comparisons and analogies that can be drawn with RUclips itself when it comes to these issues. It's just déjà vu
4:00 I agree that conceptually paying for unbans makes sense, but... The only server I've EVER been banned from intentionally bans over the smallest possible things and sold stupidly expensive unbans. I was banned by a moderator for "rude behaviour" when I was talking to them normally, and they didn't even have a moderator tag! I thought they were just a regular player.
Permanently banned because I "had the wrong tone". $50 to be unbanned. I never played that server again, but I'm sure they got rewarded for each ban they issued.
IMO, Microsoft and Mojang should have NO HAND in which servers are banned or not. This is just as bad as chat reporting IMO, just a different audience for the terms.
Who does Mojang think they are?
Seriously, I'm concerned for this games future.
At this rate, I’m convinced that Mojang is just a soulless husk (no pun intended) whose body is being used as a puppet by Microsoft to use the Minecraft name for easy money.
*microsoft
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiast you make it sound like Microsoft is the big bad of everything, tho Nintendo and Blizzard are the complete monsters which is why Microsoft was trying to buy Blizzard until Sony threw a sissy fit.
@@rainbowdash3419 How does it change the fact that Microsoft is a corporate monster?
@@svetlananikolaeva8039 Microsoft isn’t they make money and if Microsoft was to go away or burn just like everyone says, we would be screwed and we would have to find an alternative, sure it sucks but like we can’t get rid of Microsoft.
The gun thing reminds me of a laser tag place I went to some years ago where someone tried to name themselves “sharpshooter” was refused but changed it to “sniper” and was totally fine because “there was no reference to shooting or guns
"Guns and WEAPONS are not allowed"
Swords, bows, crossbows. axes: *Hello*
Mojang really competing for the title of worst game company 2023.
Thankyou for continuing to make amazing content.♥
Feels like a growing trend of companies nowadays cracking down on their customers and their user base and taking away features and aspects that made their games, services, and products popular to begin with. Cannon, Nikon, Microsoft, Amazon, Uber, Adobe, RUclips (lowering monetization and now swapping to promotions to gain monetization).
Soon one day soon everything will be taken away.
Paying for unbans is definitely not fair, it basically means rich people get to cheat to their hearts' contempt.
Depends if you limit it. If you let them pay for an unban once, but never again, then it's pretty fair still.
@@thrackerzod6097 Limited to one I agree, but no more than that
and idiots like you whining because you got no job get banned L