Taeistoocute Yes, he is. Everything he does to change the events changes everything in their lifes ( butterfly effect, some are saying that that's what they were hinting when they put "butterfly" in their prologue).
This is the timeline before the highlight reel which actually make sense... thats why jungkook in wheelchair and at hospital during highlight reel love yourself:her which mean he still get hit by car like ending credit of this video euphoria. Jin is like a time traveller because its been hinted during at the end of highlight reels like everything is reversed. Omg... my mind exploding with the theory.
yeah, then... Wonder = Euphoria (a state of intense happiness) Her = Serendipity (a happy occurrence by chance; meeting the members) Answer = Epiphany (understanding/realization) Tear = Singularity (7 becomes 1; final state) are the next ones.
i don't think it's in line with the highlight reel timeline like that. i think they are 2 different timelines or universes depending on which theory (the time travel or parallel travel) you believe in. in the highlight reel at the end we could see jin going for changing shit again, with the changing clothes and all the other in the pile being hints that he's been doing this for some time now and will do it again. trying to change things in a way where everyone gets saved or a good ending. because even in the highlight reel -- while at first it seemed all were in some way moving forward, at the end things went wrong. so he went to change things again. i think there's the original timeline which is hyyh era where everything started and went wrong. and ever since jin has been trying to make a reality where the bads get avoided or changed. so that's why i don't see the highlight reel and euphoria timeline being connected linearly like that. or at least, that my opinion. :D
The basic, most common theory for Wonder is that Jin can rewind time, and he did just that to stop all the bad things that happened to the boys. However, he had to leave out one of the members (Jimin, who is still in the hospital) which draws parallels to Omelas (referenced in Spring Day MV). There's more to it but that's a basic summary.
in reference to V in the end, it's thought that he's having some sort of recollection of the original timeline hence the confused look. Some say that the next installment (Epiphany) will be where the members realise what Jin has done.
G.M. Magyes www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/8a0q7a/comeback_theory_for_love_yourselfwonder/?st=JFTMDFUX&sh=12893695 the bangtan subreddit is the best for theories in my opinion, twitter can be a bit messy lol
just to add on your theory. Maybe the life lesson here is sometimes we are not capable of saving everyone. In this case , Jin couldn't save Jimin maybe by the time he decided to save him (Jimin) after saving other members, it was too late for Jimin to be saved.
Jazmin Mireya I cant just enjoy a single video anymore" lol so relatable. Ofcourse I still love watching their MVs and listening to their new releases but also because the moment something related to the storyline drops, we tend to overanalyze everything which makes watching their videos even more fun 😄
Their videos are also one of plenty of reasons why they are so captivating. You have to watch the videos times and times again to understand a small part of the story.
Two words: time traveling... They have been continuing this for so long it's C R A Z Y, but we actually got so many answers here!! Finally haha (You can read the theory I believe in under my comment, credits to "tae's eyelash" on youtube!! 😊)
I'm 100% confident these are different timelines. I don't know why, but it's suits the dark theme better, knowing there are different timelines where the members literally died.
Yes you are right, Jungkook saved Suga, the one with RM is Jin and the one with V is Jhope... someone say Jin went back in time to put Jhope with V so that V won't end up murdering his own father... something like that? ANYWAYS YES THATS ME WHEN JUNGKOOK SUDDENLY SHOUTED 'EUPHORIA'. AND YES I AGREE ON 6:23 YESSS Edit: thanks for the likes! first time getting sooo many likes
yeah i've heard that as well, but he still wears bandages in the scene with hobi as well so i think he jjust came there to help with the aftermath and stuff..? maybe, idk
My theory is that this all links with the grandfather paradox; the idea that in order to change the current life, one must kill themselves in the past to erase their current timeline. Jin can time travel, he uses the camera to go back to different times in his life when his friends were happy (hence the actual part where Euphoria plays) and he sacrifices himself in place of the others in order to keep them alive.
Donna Gandhi but jimin is actually alone and suffering from hallucinations because he is the omelos boy like the one who has to suffer for the people to live in happiness and peace like an utopia but this still doesn't link to the wings era very well did Jin make a deal with the devil to rewind time ? And fix V mistake because I think he also made a deal with the devil or was the evil fallen angel? like does V killing his father has anything to do with the wings era? Like jhope reason for being in the mental hospital has something to do with his mother abandoning him like in mama, I can't even with these theories can big hit explain please already
From what I've read WONDER is set before HER. So WONDER shows what happened before HER, and with Jimin being shown running alone and with the yellow background connects with the Serendipity video. The scene with V sitting in front of another member is the room where he stabbed his dad, they said it was Hoseok and there was a scene where it seems Jimin doesn't want Hoseok to leave but he does. Thus leaving Jimin alone in the hospital.
I think the order is WONDER, HER, ANSWER, TEAR Because the first letter of each of those put in order spells WHAT. At the end of FIRE, there is text reading BOY MEETS WHAT. So I thought (at the time) is WHAT an acronym. This could explain the order and basic timeline before tear and answer come out, that may be the end of the storyline, then again BTS has had this going for 3 years so who knows if it will even end. It may become the most amazing and irritating cliff hanger ever...
Seoltang what if jimin was imagining that the members were with him because it kept showing jimin with the members and then him alone I’m guessing jimin felt lonley since hoseok left him and he never saw the other members that his mind played tricks on him that the members were with him
One of those rare times when the PD doesn't go "WOAH THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL SHOT" or "THAT'S SUCH A GOOD TRANSITION" when reacting to the video instead he tries decoding the theory 😂😂😂😂
My own, personal (and probably wrong) theory is this: In the Wings short films, RM spoke of Abraxas (considered by some as both a deity and a demon, depending on your interpretation). It's my belief that V made a deal with Abraxas, to help him overcome his abusive father. Unfortunately, making deals with demons never goes well, and V starts a whole chain of events that lead to the destruction of the members. Jin, being the eldest, feels a sense of protectiveness toward the others and, wanting to make things right, he finds Abraxas and makes a deal with him, sealed with a kiss (Blood, Sweat & Tears), to be given the chance to go back and change things, and hopefully save his brothers. I believe the price Jin has to pay is literally switching places with V. Is V dead? From the smile he gave at the end of the Blood, Sweat & Tears sequence, it can almost be assumed that Abraxas possessed his body and convinced Jin to offer himself in exchange for the others. If you listen carefully to the lyrics of Jin's solo song, Awake, with the above story in mind, it's entirely plausible that he's singing about being scared of what's about to happen, but that he knows it's what he has to do. "I want to stay, but the time for me to leave has come. It's my truth, I will be full of scars but it's my fate." Finally, I firmly believe that the story will end with one of two possible scenarios: Either the entire story, and the members, will be the figment of Jimin's imagination in the psychiatric hospital. OR, Jimin will be the only survivor, and he will be placed in a psychiatric hospital with "delusions". Anddddd that was the longest comment I've written in a while. I'm sorry! LOL
Interesting. Big hit been emphasize love yourself series is new series. I need u era , wings era n love yourself era time line theory somehow conflicting each other. Wings comes after I need u era, so ur theory saying v make a deal with evil possible leading to the misfortune of the boys. Time line is quite confusing. 😅over reacting n analysing in theory bit it's fun as well right? I think it ll be much more exciting to see much more diverse n creative theory among mv like parallel universe, evil counterpart and all those superpower ability like movie plot literally 😆
Just add on to my comment maybe ... I say maybe it's not really about the time line thing .. what if we take wings era as the flash back memory to reflect what each member feeling n happen to them before things happen in I need u HYYH era . Follow ur theory then it make sense. As we all acknowledge big hit not really follow time line person as u can see what they let love yourself 承her came out 1st instead of love yourself 起wonder. Where 起 wonder should be comes out 1st according to the arrangement. Wouldn't be the signal for us? Bcs in love yourself wonder big hit always emphasise it's new serial then it make sense right?plus I always wonder why the mini album call u never walk alone bcs we know it's part of wings era inspiration too . Did V met smth when he's walking alone, again over thinking from me maybe it's just vague concept to portray their good moment togather. Can't help to relate things even the title album for theory 😆good job everyone. Euphoria itself is a good ease n happy intro mv 😄
Cherry Shephard what a great theory! And it makes sense. I never understood how BST added in to the whole theory. But if Jin makes a deal with him to save everyone. Oh. My GOD.
The boys each represent parts of Jin Jungkook=Youth and helplessness V= Rebellion Jimin= Denial RM= Maturity J-Hope= Pain and not knowing where he stands anymore Suga= Anger The key thing to remember is that the boys are teenagers. They're not necessarily adults or children. Yet. RM is an adult and I think he's the only one excluding Jin. The rest of the boys are struggling between adulthood and childhood.
“I feel like I’m over-analyzing this too much. What has BTS done to me. I can’t just enjoy a simple music video anymore.” -P.D., 2018 Never heard a truer statement than this. 😅😂🤣
Most of the details to this narrative are actually in the notes that come along with the HYYH and LY series, they are so detailed it's wild connecting some of the dots to what they've filmed and it explains A LOT about their characters. It's written in the pov of each member, basically like dairy entries.
Oh my god finally someone mentions the notes...I feel like most people never realized what they were so didn't bother looking up translations for them. Its abit irritating honestly.
I have thought that Jin is doing a Butterfly Effect and that's the reason why they don't really realize what is going on and that's why things are changing. Especially in the pier scene at the end, he takes the video of the boys from below and you see that V's jump is changed. That's why the video camera and the photos are so important. Jin is changing things. If you haven't seen The Butterfly Effect, check it out. It will explain a lot for people that are confused.
"I feel like I'm over-analyzing way too much. What has BTS done to me? Like, I can't just enjoy a simple video anymore" -the whole fandom basically Another great reaction! I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on this. It's interesting to hear the opinion from a producer, so keep it up, man.
Its so immensely refreshing to see someone who manages to pick up these clues and tries to connect them to previous videos. It truly makes me appreciate you more when you put effort into sitting down, remembering and connecting things while explaining your meanings(Things that not that many people do). SO, thank you for being so honest and beyond true to yourself. You're hands down the reactor i have the most respect for. I truly hope you keep making these videos for a long time, I'm looking forward to all of them. Hope you have the most beautiful day, you beautiful person.
Each time I watch your videos, you always amaze me. Each time I say to myself “He is not just a regular reactor, he knows what is happening in this video” Like you catch things that most people don’t even pay attention. After watching you I’m like, “This guy is a video producer, for sureeeee. Look at em seeing through everything” Love your workkkkkk
i think jin has been going back in time and altering the timelines trying to save his friends (as shown in the highlight reels) but no matter how many times he tries, one always seems to die or get hurt anyway, like in this one where he saves taehyung from jumping off by replacing his father with jhope but by doing so, abandons jimin in the hospital (linking to Omelas in spring day, where one person has to suffer in order for everyone else to live happily). I think a possible reason as to why the series may be called Love Yourself is because they're trying to show us that no matter how hard you try or how many times you try, the only solution is to love yourself. The only was Jin can save them all is if they learn to love themselves despite their flaws and all the things they've done.
Jin is actually the one usually driving the truck. Also someone pointed out on twitter that some of the scenes of the members that looked like they were recorded with a camera were actually in the same room Jimin was in by himself. Also when they were taking the picture together on the rooftop, when Jin joined the frame the color grading changed and looked more desaturated(?) and more like the color grading in Prolouge/Run/I Need U
My theory (a trash one that covers like nothing) is that Jin went back in time to fix everything. After his death, he gets to see how it impacted the members and he felt guilty. So he tries to save everyone. But we never see Jimin get saved. We never see him burning his suicide note (from the bath seven in INU). Jimin ends up either hospitalized, or he ends up dying and takes Jin place (the abundance of white in his solo shots). Jin at the end jumps because of his guilt. He chose the greater good and saved five of his friends while sacrificing one (Jimin). He drowns himself, like how Jimin drowned himself. The concept of a greater good is rather prevalent in The Ones Who Walked Away From Omelas and Snowpiercer. But, BTS is confusing as heck so maybe this is just another fried chicken CF and we're all over thinking. BTW, Jin is the one that drives the truck
it's amazing how you got all those details at first watch, it literally took me loads of replays to notice the small stuff and i had to seek help from others' theories lmao
So the theory that I've come across that seems plausible. But it looks like Jin keeps going back in time to try and save each member but the one member he can't save is JK (getting hit by the car) but he sends the other members to try and save the others. Jhope stopping V from murdering his dad and JK saving Suga from the fire. But I definitely think you're on a really solid theory. I think this video is kind of a way to refresh the story but also bringing that storyline to the new album since they've said that this upcoming album will be a lot darker than LY:H
LMAO I was just watching FMVs of Euphoria because I'm obsessed with the song and I was surprised you uploaded a reaction! Thank you for checking out the video 🙏
"I feel like I'm overanalizing this way too much. What has BTS done to me? Like I can't just enjoy a simple music video anymore" ALL THE DAMN TIME when I'm watching BTS' MVs
The part at the end where it’s shows V going in and then it reverses shows that Jin has succeeded prevented V from jumping and possibly drowning, by sacrificing himself for the happiness of the others.
but did you notice jimin was the only one standing up on that ledge thing but later on when jin reveals himself taehyung AnD jimin are the ones standing
I love your reactions because they’re analytical and so informational; it’s not like some brain dead reactors who just repeat what is happening on the screen or just stare at it with 3 different facial expressions. You deserve more credit.
This is why I love to watch intelligent person react to BTS MV/trailer. I don't need too much reaction like jump from the chair or screaming, I enjoy my self watch this video bcs you give your own opinion and you're more prof about producering
I love how there are so many ways to interpret this story. I love when a storyteller allows me to come up with my own themes and ideas instead of telling me exactly what I should be thinking; I think that allows us as viewers to find what we need (if that makes sense). I definitely feel that the storyline deals with themes of mental illness; I also feel that it's exploring the themes provided in Omelas, the concept of a subset of people must suffer for everyone else to be happy and what might happen if they walk away? I'm really looking forward to this new cb. Everything they've done so far has been really personal and important to me, and I think this next chapter will continue that.
"Hyung is there something you are something from us? " It is the fact that Jin really went back to the time where V is gonna jump but Jin replaced it instead of him, the words epilhany was like"in the end of my journey is another new beginning " its like Jin wished that he have loved himself but ending sacrificing himself for their happiness.. Im litterally crying
I’m p sure this is kind of like a heaven for Jungkook and Yoongi. This is after they both died (jungkook from suicide and yoongi from the fire.) that’s why there are so many moments when it’s just yoongi and jungkook interacting in a lot of scenes and why they were waving to them in that one scene. They were basically waving good bye to them.
One thing I really have to say...you’re the first reactor I saw who was able to recognise the scenes of tae lying down from prologue, Jin opening the curtain from inu and yoongi’s bedroom from inu and it made me really happy :)
There’s actually such a crazy story behind it and the whole story reveals partly in every new video and it seems like every new video is connected (the wing series belongs to it) and we have to wait for each video to understand that whole thing like a puzzle your questions get answered step by step. It’s so genius! I watched a video called something like bts universe explained it’s helpful as I’m new in the army and didn’t know how to connect all these videos. Basically the question they want to answer (or not) in the whole series is something like „if you would have the ability to change your past, would you fall for the same faith again?“ There’s some great philosophy hidden in it. I just love the transition from darkness into beautiful euphoria. It was the most perfect way to emphasize the title of the video, as euphoria has not only one happy meaning, but euphoria means also the state of happiness that is harmful and dangerous, as it lifts up from reality. I would also like to appreciate the whole black hair natural concept. Being satisfied with your own natural looks is an important part of happiness (euphoria) as well. Let’s just all of us appreciate this great video and the genius behind all of this (whoever that might be)
if the 6 are various aspects of Jin as one theory I have seen, than the stories are about the different aspects changing, dying, surviving with Jin at the end finding a peace with them and even possibly finally integrating them as he looks down on them from a new vantage point and both rewriting their history and looking out into the future with optimism. This would make sense in the theme of Love Yourself. He has saved himself as we save ourselves when we go through traumas ..... as he saved Suga , he picked and handed the money to RM which had been thrown disrespectfully on the ground and as Jimin got the help he needed but couldn't leave the place of sanctuary until the other aspects of the personality were with him. What else are you hiding from us Hyung are the aspects asking for Jin to confront a truth Jin is trying to make peace with? This is my perspective as I watch these and wanted to share.
RM said that this come back would be darker than previous ones, so unless he was talking about their hair, I’m very curious to see the new title track. He also said that they wanted to talk about the struggle of coming to love yourself, which is really important and I’m just so excited for their next album
To me it seams like they are all "dead" and coming back from "another world" - when wearing white and everything else comes to them as memories from the past, they come back as "ghosts wearing white clothing" to the places they have been and experienced before and memories flashback to them - to Jin, also towards the end they are in white meeting and having smile on their faces ...
The "socially-aware" BTS from the Wings era and the eras before that is the BTS I kind of missed during most of the DNA stuff/songs, so this video was a game changer for me - reminded me of how much I used to love and appreciate BTS (and how much I actually missed them and their "deeper" side)♥ =)
the saturation of the M/V also changes between the time that Jin is apart and when he joins in the line. if you notice, no one looks at Jin really in the video but V in the last few seconds of the video in which V is reminiscing his alternate past
one thing i find interesting which many people miss is the piano piece playing in the video. it's the same as in prologue: clair de lune. clair the lune was based upon a poem with the same name, and heres a piece from that poem: "While singing in a minor key, Of victorious love and easy life, They don't seem to believe in their happiness". that seems to fit nicely in with the theme for their storyline as well..
I was confused with so many theories trying to piece the MVS together, but ever since i read the "Save Me" webtoon everything finally makes sense. I recommend u read it cuz it's actually so complicated and i had to read it over again to make sure everything was clear.
Jin is the guy showing up in every scene. He is undoing all of the bad things that happened, such as suga in the burning room, the stabbing, on the ledge above the water, etc.
I'm watching this now lol and after Webtoon released the Save Me webtoon what you are saying of Jin changing the future and trying to change these outcomes that his friends went through is true!!! You truly are so smart lol! I'm loving your videos! You have a new subscriber.
ohman, I laughed so hard when you point that out about what BTS have done to you, because I understand that so much hahaha I did think so too, that I've analyzed too hard but it just came in so naturally, and I'm impressed that you managed to point out about the parallel when Jimin running towards the exit. And how you can recall most of their past mvs.
I noticed that all of love yourself really likes primary colors and euphoria keeps mainly to blue and yellow with bit of red to not make it to obvious.
Jin swapped V’s uncle with Jhope so he didnt kill anyone however this takes away Jhope from Jimin so Jimin is now left with hallucinations of being with friends etc
"Jin is Jesus or something"
what a concept
Jimin's Bucket Hat in MIC Drop MV 😂😂👌
when was it?
AndrelouMoss 10:26
A whole concept that I can get behind 😂🙋
+doyoung's eyebrows hahahahahaha same thought hi5
"I feel like I'm over-analyzing this WAY too much. What has BTS done to me? Like I can't just ENJOY a simple video anymore."
Same, PD. Same... 😂
ME. IT'S ALWAYS LIKE THAT WITH BTS.
Rinku Seiker Such a MOOD
THAT'S ME ALL THE TIME Watching BTS VIDEOS :')
Me: oh maybe.... This and that
Like even if they breathe there's a theory behind it like seriouslyy
I can't enjoy it properly
Lol I'm weird I know
Constant mood
You noticed basically everything on the first viewing...on my first viewing my reaction was more like "THINGS ARE HAPPENING"
kris별 LOL also me
lmao same xD between hysterical laughter bc what-the-fuck-is-going-on and trying to force Taehyung back into his lane (to no avail), basically
me
kris별 I CAN RELATE. Also. HAKU.
SAME though!
6:23 "Suga looks good" a mood
Lara Conde me
Lara Conde i snorted
A FAT ASS MOOD
A HOLE FREACKING CONCEPT
Lara Conde me
pd be like "i can't enjoy anything now w/o overanalyzing, what has bts done to me" 😂
aliceramenhead it's just the same happened to us
Major mood
LOL when he said that I was like same.
same
aliceramenhead me tbh
Jin is the driver, Jin is always the one driving in all of their videos.
Yes, and i think someone once referred to him as the “driving force” of his friends’ actions
Taeistoocute Yes, he is. Everything he does to change the events changes everything in their lifes ( butterfly effect, some are saying that that's what they were hinting when they put "butterfly" in their prologue).
Yep, I love that they have the visual of him always driving, as he's the one changing things all the time.
same, and I think he was the one who hit Jungkook which caused Jungkook to end up in the hospital, right? My mind can't take this.
Juliana Mortera He probably is the one who hit Jungkook but we never know with Bighit 😋
This is the timeline before the highlight reel which actually make sense... thats why jungkook in wheelchair and at hospital during highlight reel love yourself:her which mean he still get hit by car like ending credit of this video euphoria. Jin is like a time traveller because its been hinted during at the end of highlight reels like everything is reversed. Omg... my mind exploding with the theory.
yeah, then...
Wonder = Euphoria (a state of intense happiness)
Her = Serendipity (a happy occurrence by chance; meeting the members)
Answer = Epiphany (understanding/realization)
Tear = Singularity (7 becomes 1; final state)
are the next ones.
Taetae is LOVE. BTS is LOVE. Timetraveler was also mentioned at the end of comeback home mv
It’s also because the album Her has the second Chinese character from the highlight reels.
i don't think it's in line with the highlight reel timeline like that. i think they are 2 different timelines or universes depending on which theory (the time travel or parallel travel) you believe in. in the highlight reel at the end we could see jin going for changing shit again, with the changing clothes and all the other in the pile being hints that he's been doing this for some time now and will do it again. trying to change things in a way where everyone gets saved or a good ending. because even in the highlight reel -- while at first it seemed all were in some way moving forward, at the end things went wrong. so he went to change things again. i think there's the original timeline which is hyyh era where everything started and went wrong. and ever since jin has been trying to make a reality where the bads get avoided or changed. so that's why i don't see the highlight reel and euphoria timeline being connected linearly like that. or at least, that my opinion. :D
there story is in webtoon
The basic, most common theory for Wonder is that Jin can rewind time, and he did just that to stop all the bad things that happened to the boys. However, he had to leave out one of the members (Jimin, who is still in the hospital) which draws parallels to Omelas (referenced in Spring Day MV). There's more to it but that's a basic summary.
in reference to V in the end, it's thought that he's having some sort of recollection of the original timeline hence the confused look. Some say that the next installment (Epiphany) will be where the members realise what Jin has done.
hello! can u link where you read this from? thank you!
G.M. Magyes www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/8a0q7a/comeback_theory_for_love_yourselfwonder/?st=JFTMDFUX&sh=12893695
the bangtan subreddit is the best for theories in my opinion, twitter can be a bit messy lol
just to add on your theory. Maybe the life lesson here is sometimes we are not capable of saving everyone. In this case , Jin couldn't save Jimin maybe by the time he decided to save him (Jimin) after saving other members, it was too late for Jimin to be saved.
pearl prl ah that’s good, I didn’t think of that... Jin has to let go and learn to love himself
"suga looks good" i was thinking that too omg, i mean they always look good, but here yoongi is distractingly good-looking 😂
ikr that what I have been saying too
aliceramenhead hes been looking good these past comebacks like i was a taehyung stan before dna and look at me now lol
“I feel like I’m overanalysing this way too much” 😂😂😂 same
Jazmin Mireya I cant just enjoy a single video anymore" lol so relatable. Ofcourse I still love watching their MVs and listening to their new releases but also because the moment something related to the storyline drops, we tend to overanalyze everything which makes watching their videos even more fun 😄
So what about BTS stan twitter? Are they overreacting entirely? :D
nah
BTS puts storyline hints everywhere. Even in their ads. It's their thing.
Their videos are also one of plenty of reasons why they are so captivating. You have to watch the videos times and times again to understand a small part of the story.
"jin is jesus" thats the theory
Jesus? You mean *Jinsus* ?
I'll let myself out. I hope I did Jin proud.
Yuki lol! Unbelibubble!
he's my religion so i can call him jinsus
stAY
lol you did 🤣
This needs to become a new meme
Two words: time traveling...
They have been continuing this for so long it's C R A Z Y, but we actually got so many answers here!! Finally haha
(You can read the theory I believe in under my comment, credits to "tae's eyelash" on youtube!! 😊)
CAROHARMY xHello I love how it's just two simple words but there's soooooo much that it encompasses!
I'm 100% confident these are different timelines.
I don't know why, but it's suits the dark theme better, knowing there are different timelines where the members literally died.
It's NOT about time travelling! And has NEVER been!
Lightefilit Faylin can I hear your theory? I'm interested
Lightefilit Faylin Well it's not strictly about it but it has a big part in it. Of course the main idea is much more deeper! :)
Yes you are right, Jungkook saved Suga, the one with RM is Jin and the one with V is Jhope... someone say Jin went back in time to put Jhope with V so that V won't end up murdering his own father... something like that?
ANYWAYS YES THATS ME WHEN JUNGKOOK SUDDENLY SHOUTED 'EUPHORIA'.
AND YES I AGREE ON 6:23 YESSS
Edit: thanks for the likes! first time getting sooo many likes
yeah i've heard that as well, but he still wears bandages in the scene with hobi as well so i think he jjust came there to help with the aftermath and stuff..? maybe, idk
* tova * hmmmm u know bighit is so mysterious
so jin had to leave out jimin?because he put jhope with v instead of jimin?(like the comment above yours)
HENDRY JAN I'm not sure abt that tho? there are too many explanations for that 🤔
My theory is that this all links with the grandfather paradox; the idea that in order to change the current life, one must kill themselves in the past to erase their current timeline. Jin can time travel, he uses the camera to go back to different times in his life when his friends were happy (hence the actual part where Euphoria plays) and he sacrifices himself in place of the others in order to keep them alive.
That seems right. And with each petal used is a part of him gone. So once he uses them all he'll probably die.
Donna Gandhi but jimin is actually alone and suffering from hallucinations because he is the omelos boy like the one who has to suffer for the people to live in happiness and peace like an utopia but this still doesn't link to the wings era very well did Jin make a deal with the devil to rewind time ? And fix V mistake because I think he also made a deal with the devil or was the evil fallen angel? like does V killing his father has anything to do with the wings era? Like jhope reason for being in the mental hospital has something to do with his mother abandoning him like in mama, I can't even with these theories can big hit explain please already
From what I've read WONDER is set before HER. So WONDER shows what happened before HER, and with Jimin being shown running alone and with the yellow background connects with the Serendipity video.
The scene with V sitting in front of another member is the room where he stabbed his dad, they said it was Hoseok and there was a scene where it seems Jimin doesn't want Hoseok to leave but he does. Thus leaving Jimin alone in the hospital.
ohhh so that's why jungkook was on wheelchair in Her
I think the order is WONDER, HER, ANSWER, TEAR
Because the first letter of each of those put in order spells WHAT. At the end of FIRE, there is text reading BOY MEETS WHAT. So I thought (at the time) is WHAT an acronym. This could explain the order and basic timeline before tear and answer come out, that may be the end of the storyline, then again BTS has had this going for 3 years so who knows if it will even end. It may become the most amazing and irritating cliff hanger ever...
Seoltang what if jimin was imagining that the members were with him because it kept showing jimin with the members and then him alone I’m guessing jimin felt lonley since hoseok left him and he never saw the other members that his mind played tricks on him that the members were with him
One of those rare times when the PD doesn't go "WOAH THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL SHOT" or "THAT'S SUCH A GOOD TRANSITION" when reacting to the video instead he tries decoding the theory 😂😂😂😂
she*
also yeah 😂😂
My own, personal (and probably wrong) theory is this: In the Wings short films, RM spoke of Abraxas (considered by some as both a deity and a demon, depending on your interpretation). It's my belief that V made a deal with Abraxas, to help him overcome his abusive father. Unfortunately, making deals with demons never goes well, and V starts a whole chain of events that lead to the destruction of the members. Jin, being the eldest, feels a sense of protectiveness toward the others and, wanting to make things right, he finds Abraxas and makes a deal with him, sealed with a kiss (Blood, Sweat & Tears), to be given the chance to go back and change things, and hopefully save his brothers.
I believe the price Jin has to pay is literally switching places with V. Is V dead? From the smile he gave at the end of the Blood, Sweat & Tears sequence, it can almost be assumed that Abraxas possessed his body and convinced Jin to offer himself in exchange for the others.
If you listen carefully to the lyrics of Jin's solo song, Awake, with the above story in mind, it's entirely plausible that he's singing about being scared of what's about to happen, but that he knows it's what he has to do. "I want to stay, but the time for me to leave has come. It's my truth, I will be full of scars but it's my fate."
Finally, I firmly believe that the story will end with one of two possible scenarios: Either the entire story, and the members, will be the figment of Jimin's imagination in the psychiatric hospital. OR, Jimin will be the only survivor, and he will be placed in a psychiatric hospital with "delusions".
Anddddd that was the longest comment I've written in a while. I'm sorry! LOL
Interesting. Big hit been emphasize love yourself series is new series. I need u era , wings era n love yourself era time line theory somehow conflicting each other. Wings comes after I need u era, so ur theory saying v make a deal with evil possible leading to the misfortune of the boys. Time line is quite confusing. 😅over reacting n analysing in theory bit it's fun as well right? I think it ll be much more exciting to see much more diverse n creative theory among mv like parallel universe, evil counterpart and all those superpower ability like movie plot literally 😆
I’ve always wondered why V smiled like that in the Blood Sweat and Tears MV
Just add on to my comment maybe ... I say maybe it's not really about the time line thing .. what if we take wings era as the flash back memory to reflect what each member feeling n happen to them before things happen in I need u HYYH era . Follow ur theory then it make sense. As we all acknowledge big hit not really follow time line person as u can see what they let love yourself 承her came out 1st instead of love yourself 起wonder. Where 起 wonder should be comes out 1st according to the arrangement. Wouldn't be the signal for us? Bcs in love yourself wonder big hit always emphasise it's new serial then it make sense right?plus I always wonder why the mini album call u never walk alone bcs we know it's part of wings era inspiration too . Did V met smth when he's walking alone, again over thinking from me maybe it's just vague concept to portray their good moment togather. Can't help to relate things even the title album for theory 😆good job everyone. Euphoria itself is a good ease n happy intro mv 😄
that actually makes alot of sense
Cherry Shephard what a great theory! And it makes sense. I never understood how BST added in to the whole theory. But if Jin makes a deal with him to save everyone. Oh. My GOD.
The boys each represent parts of Jin
Jungkook=Youth and helplessness
V= Rebellion
Jimin= Denial
RM= Maturity
J-Hope= Pain and not knowing where he stands anymore
Suga= Anger
The key thing to remember is that the boys are teenagers. They're not necessarily adults or children.
Yet. RM is an adult and I think he's the only one excluding Jin. The rest of the boys are struggling between adulthood and childhood.
“I feel like I’m over-analyzing this too much. What has BTS done to me. I can’t just enjoy a simple music video anymore.” -P.D., 2018
Never heard a truer statement than this. 😅😂🤣
"iiIIIIIiinnteresting!"
*me*
You can never overanalyse bts short films and mv’s EVERY LITTLE DETAIL COUNTS
*”I can’t just enjoy a simple video anymore”*
*_honestly though wtf bighit_*
Most of the details to this narrative are actually in the notes that come along with the HYYH and LY series, they are so detailed it's wild connecting some of the dots to what they've filmed and it explains A LOT about their characters. It's written in the pov of each member, basically like dairy entries.
Naps Gold do you have the link?
ruclips.net/video/PCvpC84kPDM/видео.html
Toffeefox Oo ktaebwi.tumblr.com/post/165984376652
Oh my god finally someone mentions the notes...I feel like most people never realized what they were so didn't bother looking up translations for them. Its abit irritating honestly.
Right! Especially when people ask certain questions and I'm like "the note!! check the notes!!"
OKAY WOW. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I DIDNT THINK THAT YOU’D REACT TO THIS.
* *INSTERTS JK'S VOICE* *
FINAALLLYYYYYYYYY
I have thought that Jin is doing a Butterfly Effect and that's the reason why they don't really realize what is going on and that's why things are changing. Especially in the pier scene at the end, he takes the video of the boys from below and you see that V's jump is changed. That's why the video camera and the photos are so important. Jin is changing things. If you haven't seen The Butterfly Effect, check it out. It will explain a lot for people that are confused.
I felt the song and music itself captured the emotion of euphoria so well. I could feel it growing inside just listening to it.
"I feel like I'm over-analyzing way too much. What has BTS done to me? Like, I can't just enjoy a simple video anymore" -the whole fandom basically
Another great reaction! I've been waiting to hear your thoughts on this. It's interesting to hear the opinion from a producer, so keep it up, man.
they all look so young and innocent with black hair
Its so immensely refreshing to see someone who manages to pick up these clues and tries to connect them to previous videos. It truly makes me appreciate you more when you put effort into sitting down, remembering and connecting things while explaining your meanings(Things that not that many people do). SO, thank you for being so honest and beyond true to yourself. You're hands down the reactor i have the most respect for. I truly hope you keep making these videos for a long time, I'm looking forward to all of them. Hope you have the most beautiful day, you beautiful person.
I'm just happy they're not whitewashed anymore...
and I'm also hella scared with what they're doing because my heart's not ready
Each time I watch your videos, you always amaze me. Each time I say to myself “He is not just a regular reactor, he knows what is happening in this video”
Like you catch things that most people don’t even pay attention.
After watching you I’m like, “This guy is a video producer, for sureeeee. Look at em seeing through everything”
Love your workkkkkk
i think jin has been going back in time and altering the timelines trying to save his friends (as shown in the highlight reels) but no matter how many times he tries, one always seems to die or get hurt anyway, like in this one where he saves taehyung from jumping off by replacing his father with jhope but by doing so, abandons jimin in the hospital (linking to Omelas in spring day, where one person has to suffer in order for everyone else to live happily). I think a possible reason as to why the series may be called Love Yourself is because they're trying to show us that no matter how hard you try or how many times you try, the only solution is to love yourself. The only was Jin can save them all is if they learn to love themselves despite their flaws and all the things they've done.
BTS are so amazing! So many masterpieces! And despite singing and dacing they are amazing actors!
"what has bts done to me?" pd is always a whole mood
Jin is actually the one usually driving the truck. Also someone pointed out on twitter that some of the scenes of the members that looked like they were recorded with a camera were actually in the same room Jimin was in by himself. Also when they were taking the picture together on the rooftop, when Jin joined the frame the color grading changed and looked more desaturated(?) and more like the color grading in Prolouge/Run/I Need U
My theory (a trash one that covers like nothing) is that Jin went back in time to fix everything. After his death, he gets to see how it impacted the members and he felt guilty. So he tries to save everyone. But we never see Jimin get saved. We never see him burning his suicide note (from the bath seven in INU). Jimin ends up either hospitalized, or he ends up dying and takes Jin place (the abundance of white in his solo shots). Jin at the end jumps because of his guilt. He chose the greater good and saved five of his friends while sacrificing one (Jimin). He drowns himself, like how Jimin drowned himself. The concept of a greater good is rather prevalent in The Ones Who Walked Away From Omelas and Snowpiercer. But, BTS is confusing as heck so maybe this is just another fried chicken CF and we're all over thinking.
BTW, Jin is the one that drives the truck
those last korean words, now that i know what it means, change my understanding completely AHAHH
Angelika Sauveur right???
Jungkook’s voice is Korean’s pride!!!!
I really love how BTS has changed your way of looking at their MVs by analyzing what's happening and making connections.
this song is so good, it's so well produced, you really feel euphoric when you listen to it. the pace, the pitch, the production, wOW
the entire bts universe is all about time traveling, and is actually really interesting. i reccomend you read the hyyh notes!
it's amazing how you got all those details at first watch, it literally took me loads of replays to notice the small stuff and i had to seek help from others' theories lmao
Brittney Fosgate me too my mind was literally just blank the first time i watched it dhdjkd
pd after every breath bts takes:
"INTERESTING"
So the theory that I've come across that seems plausible. But it looks like Jin keeps going back in time to try and save each member but the one member he can't save is JK (getting hit by the car) but he sends the other members to try and save the others. Jhope stopping V from murdering his dad and JK saving Suga from the fire.
But I definitely think you're on a really solid theory.
I think this video is kind of a way to refresh the story but also bringing that storyline to the new album since they've said that this upcoming album will be a lot darker than LY:H
LMAO I was just watching FMVs of Euphoria because I'm obsessed with the song and I was surprised you uploaded a reaction! Thank you for checking out the video 🙏
now that there's this webtoon where they explain everything I noticed you predicted a lot of things right. what an intellectual
"I feel like I'm overanalizing this way too much. What has BTS done to me? Like I can't just enjoy a simple music video anymore" ALL THE DAMN TIME when I'm watching BTS' MVs
The part at the end where it’s shows V going in and then it reverses shows that Jin has succeeded prevented V from jumping and possibly drowning, by sacrificing himself for the happiness of the others.
but did you notice jimin was the only one standing up on that ledge thing but later on when jin reveals himself taehyung AnD jimin are the ones standing
I love your reactions because they’re analytical and so informational; it’s not like some brain dead reactors who just repeat what is happening on the screen or just stare at it with 3 different facial expressions. You deserve more credit.
This is why I love to watch intelligent person react to BTS MV/trailer. I don't need too much reaction like jump from the chair or screaming, I enjoy my self watch this video bcs you give your own opinion and you're more prof about producering
you analyzed it to the perfect amount!!! your reaction was incredible! you remembered everything from the other videos! I loved this reaction!!
It's so satisfying watching someone react to euphoria with knowledge of the hyyh storyline/mvs.
I was waiting for this one! Man was I fast to click it
cant help but keep on nodding, the way you said JIN is JESUS got me crackeddd! ILY
"I can't just enjoy a simple video anymore"
There have never been word more relatable then this
I love how there are so many ways to interpret this story. I love when a storyteller allows me to come up with my own themes and ideas instead of telling me exactly what I should be thinking; I think that allows us as viewers to find what we need (if that makes sense). I definitely feel that the storyline deals with themes of mental illness; I also feel that it's exploring the themes provided in Omelas, the concept of a subset of people must suffer for everyone else to be happy and what might happen if they walk away? I'm really looking forward to this new cb. Everything they've done so far has been really personal and important to me, and I think this next chapter will continue that.
"Hyung is there something you are something from us? "
It is the fact that Jin really went back to the time where V is gonna jump but Jin replaced it instead of him, the words epilhany was like"in the end of my journey is another new beginning " its like Jin wished that he have loved himself but ending sacrificing himself for their happiness..
Im litterally crying
It's so satisfying as an ARMY to see someone react to Euphoria and have prior knowledge of the whole storyline
are they all dead? are they all in heaven? do they just like wearing white? is jin a guardian angel? is it a febreeze commercial? who knows dude
BTS are Timelords. No other way to explain it. lol XD Their music videos always make me question everything.
They make me question life
I love how BTS is giving us puzzle pieces one at a time. And how people are figuring it all out like the musical story book it is.
I’m p sure this is kind of like a heaven for Jungkook and Yoongi. This is after they both died (jungkook from suicide and yoongi from the fire.) that’s why there are so many moments when it’s just yoongi and jungkook interacting in a lot of scenes and why they were waving to them in that one scene. They were basically waving good bye to them.
i appreciate your reactions so much. you’re honest and you have a really good point of view that i’m always interested to hear.
"What has BTS done to me! I cannot enjoy a simple video anymore." - Damn relatable!
One thing I really have to say...you’re the first reactor I saw who was able to recognise the scenes of tae lying down from prologue, Jin opening the curtain from inu and yoongi’s bedroom from inu
and it made me really happy :)
There’s actually such a crazy story behind it and the whole story reveals partly in every new video and it seems like every new video is connected (the wing series belongs to it) and we have to wait for each video to understand that whole thing like a puzzle your questions get answered step by step. It’s so genius! I watched a video called something like bts universe explained it’s helpful as I’m new in the army and didn’t know how to connect all these videos. Basically the question they want to answer (or not) in the whole series is something like „if you would have the ability to change your past, would you fall for the same faith again?“ There’s some great philosophy hidden in it. I just love the transition from darkness into beautiful euphoria. It was the most perfect way to emphasize the title of the video, as euphoria has not only one happy meaning, but euphoria means also the state of happiness that is harmful and dangerous, as it lifts up from reality. I would also like to appreciate the whole black hair natural concept. Being satisfied with your own natural looks is an important part of happiness (euphoria) as well. Let’s just all of us appreciate this great video and the genius behind all of this (whoever that might be)
I’ve been waiting for this! Thank you so much for reacting to this, it made my day!! 🔥🔥
if the 6 are various aspects of Jin as one theory I have seen, than the stories are about the different aspects changing, dying, surviving with Jin at the end finding a peace with them and even possibly finally integrating them as he looks down on them from a new vantage point and both rewriting their history and looking out into the future with optimism. This would make sense in the theme of Love Yourself. He has saved himself as we save ourselves when we go through traumas ..... as he saved Suga , he picked and handed the money to RM which had been thrown disrespectfully on the ground and as Jimin got the help he needed but couldn't leave the place of sanctuary until the other aspects of the personality were with him. What else are you hiding from us Hyung are the aspects asking for Jin to confront a truth Jin is trying to make peace with? This is my perspective as I watch these and wanted to share.
RM said that this come back would be darker than previous ones, so unless he was talking about their hair, I’m very curious to see the new title track. He also said that they wanted to talk about the struggle of coming to love yourself, which is really important and I’m just so excited for their next album
"So unless he was talking about their hair" lol you should be a comedian
i was waiting for this video ;) thank you ^^
To me it seams like they are all "dead" and coming back from "another world" - when wearing white and everything else comes to them as memories from the past, they come back as "ghosts wearing white clothing" to the places they have been and experienced before and memories flashback to them - to Jin, also towards the end they are in white meeting and having smile on their faces ...
I’ve been WAITING
btw can you appreciate Jungkook’s vocals more>
I love watching you figure it all out
The "socially-aware" BTS from the Wings era and the eras before that is the BTS I kind of missed during most of the DNA stuff/songs, so this video was a game changer for me - reminded me of how much I used to love and appreciate BTS (and how much I actually missed them and their "deeper" side)♥ =)
the saturation of the M/V also changes between the time that Jin is apart and when he joins in the line. if you notice, no one looks at Jin really in the video but V in the last few seconds of the video in which V is reminiscing his alternate past
FINALLY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO
The entire video was so HEALING !!
“ i cant just watch a video what has BTS done to me” thats such a mood my god
one thing i find interesting which many people miss is the piano piece playing in the video. it's the same as in prologue: clair de lune. clair the lune was based upon a poem with the same name, and heres a piece from that poem: "While singing in a minor key, Of victorious love and easy life, They don't seem to believe in their happiness". that seems to fit nicely in with the theme for their storyline as well..
I was confused with so many theories trying to piece the MVS together, but ever since i read the "Save Me" webtoon everything finally makes sense. I recommend u read it cuz it's actually so complicated and i had to read it over again to make sure everything was clear.
I really liked your explanation. How you broke it down logically. Awesome video
Jin is the guy showing up in every scene. He is undoing all of the bad things that happened, such as suga in the burning room, the stabbing, on the ledge above the water, etc.
" What has BTS done to me "
BIGGEST. MOOD. EVER.
euphoria's supposed to sound all happy and whatever but whenever i listen to it i feel happy and sad. it's bittersweet to me.
Goosebumps at the commentary.
"I feel like I'm overanalyzing this way too much. What has BTS done to me? I can't just enjoy a simple video anymore."
I feel this down to my soul lol
I'm watching this now lol and after Webtoon released the Save Me webtoon what you are saying of Jin changing the future and trying to change these outcomes that his friends went through is true!!! You truly are so smart lol! I'm loving your videos! You have a new subscriber.
You make a lot of sense. Actually better than lot of theories
a very feasible analysis made PD!! i loved the reactions, both funny and thought evoking :)
BTS: breathes
PD: IntErEsTiNgGgGg
ohman, I laughed so hard when you point that out about what BTS have done to you, because I understand that so much hahaha I did think so too, that I've analyzed too hard but it just came in so naturally, and I'm impressed that you managed to point out about the parallel when Jimin running towards the exit. And how you can recall most of their past mvs.
i really feel like the last few seconds of Jin smiling hints to his enlistment of the military. he is saving his friends (BTS) before he has to go.
I noticed that all of love yourself really likes primary colors and euphoria keeps mainly to blue and yellow with bit of red to not make it to obvious.
you’re so into bts’ storyline and I love how bts can do this with people hehehe
Your BTS reaction videos are my favorites.
Your reaction is literally the entire fandom watching this
Jin swapped V’s uncle with Jhope so he didnt kill anyone however this takes away Jhope from Jimin so Jimin is now left with hallucinations of being with friends etc
ejleoz21 it was his dad actually,not his uncle 💝😶