Do y'all like seeing the start of the benchmarks like this video, or would you rather see mid gameplay with the test already running? Hope y'all enjoy! :)
Thanks for your work! These tests prove once again how important VRR is for handheld gaming. Keeping a 48 fps compared to 60 helps tons for battery life.
Love my Ally.. I had a deck for a year and that was decent enough but the power of the ally is fantastic. Personally the “windows” experience is fine I’ve never had any issues treating the Ally like a gaming Pc/Laptop.. thanks for the video!
The Ally is a much better "PC" type machine with unlimited freedom. I also have the OLED Steam Deck, which I love, but it has it's limitations. I think the Ally is a fantastic machine, especially after running all these benchmarks. I can see where in docked mode, it's still awesome (the steam deck isn't at all haha). Thanks man, glad you enjoyed the video! :)
@@filt3rlesshi, tell me how to properly configure the cooler and the parameters, so I set it to 17 volts, and how much to set the other parameters. I play more from the socket and it gets very hot up to 95c. How to set the parameters correctly) thanks in advance
@@ninhosensei Open Armory Crate, Settings, Operating Mode, select Manual Mode, set all 3 sliders to 18W, adjust fan curves, save the profile by pressing on the checkbox.
so im new with ally, this month gonna have my own ally, what i see from this video the sweet spot TDP for the ally is like about 18W, thanks your video helping me to choose wich setting for my ally soon❤🔥
Great video! That jump to 30w with diminishing returns😅 Speaking of which if i can make a suggestion could you make a video with fan curves for 12,17/18 unplugged and 25/30 plugged for best noise/temp balance? I tend to overshoot one way or the other😂
Thanks! And yeah there isn't much gain for going to really high watts. For fan curves I like to use G-Helper since it runs the default profile fan curves from Armoury Crate. So 18W in Performance mode still sounds like if you were using 15W in Armoury Crate. Any custom fan curve, in G-Helper and AC I found too loud. So I prefer to not set custom fan curves.
Thank you for this great video! Seems like I’ll be going with 17W for everything as you mentioned ❤ Could you please make a video of your fan curves and your config like SPL, SPPT and FPPT?
Hi there guys. I just downloaded the AMD driver 24.1.1 and it works great. I’m playing Tarkov on my Ally with Fluid Motion Frames activated and it makes a huge difference. And to be honest I hardly feel the input lag.
Another great video, thank you! Once AMD releases the FMF drivers for Ally, it would be very interesting to test it with different wattages and see its real benefits (also considering latency). What do you think? Keep it up with the great work m8!
Thanks! I think the AFMF is probably going to have too much latency on the 7840U chips. I could be wrong, but I don't think there is enough overhead in the chip for it to be usable. And the Ally has VRR and LFC (Low Framerate Compensation) so it can go to 30FPS and still look smooth.
Honestly Id like to know what 25 w across the board would be like versus 30 w across the board. I dont know if battery life will be any better but itd be nice to see if there are diminishing returns with new update.
There is very little difference between 25 and 30 watts. Ive found 30W to be almost pointless to run. 25W is what I use for high power. Then 17W for mid and 12W for battery saving.
In almost all cases, the performance difference between 30 and 25 watts is only 5% at best. Might as well lower it for more battery life or a quieter fan.
@@filt3rless was hoping there would be a summary portion at the end of the video w/ this exact information, what you use for high power, mid, low power etc along with any observations you may have had. I love benchmarks as much as any person out there, but a video of benchmarks with no summary feels cold and sterile to me. Either way, love the vids man, you were the first channel I found when I bought my Ally and have found your content to be extremely helpful! Keep up the good work!
I never go over 15 Watt, the performance boost from 15 Watt to 30 Watt is negligible, especially if you see how mutch heat the 30Watt mode is generating in comparison to the 15Watt mode.
The rog ally is nice for being the most powerful gaming handheld but i just find it annoying how they can cram a rtx 4090 into a laptop but we cant even get a handheld on par to an rtx 3050, i hope in the near future theres an option to play most open world games at 1080p 60 high settings
Do you know rtx 4090 mobile is completely different than the desktop one right? Have you seen the lightest 1050 laptop? Do you think you want to lift that thing with your hand for hours?
Thanks! I have a video that covers just about all the settings for the Ally. On the timestamps the AMD stuff starts at "30": ruclips.net/video/XPKepg96XP8/видео.html
Hello, i suggest you to install bazziteOS running on rog ally and test wattages of games and you can compare it with steam deck too. In bazzite os (steam os) you can adjust low TDPs with some extensions, cap to 30fps or 40fps etc. so please try to make a video of it and test battery life, performance compared to windows and steamdeck..Thankyou
Amazing video, but what fan curve are you using? I've got an 18w profile and my temperatures are much lower than what it shows in your video... I'm wondering if my curve is too aggressive?
I'm using a program called G-Helper which mimics the Armoury Crate profile. So the 18W is still running off the Armoury Crate performance fan curve (so it's virtually silent).
Can you save custom power profiles for each game? because there doesn't seem to be a one size fits all for games. You really need to tune each game with how much juice you give it. From what I've seen it seems to be.. 12w : Emulation 15w: Older, less demanding games at high/ultra settings 18-25w: Older but still demanding games & newer less demanding games at low,medium,high settings 30w: New Triple A games which may or may not be playable at low settings only.
In Armoury Crate you can set a per game watt setting. The only thing I don't like about AC is I like to change the wattage on the fly. And AC will immediately override the settings if you've set any and minimize/re-open the window. So I prefer to use a program called G-Helper which allows me to switch pretty quickly, as well as set custom watts.
To me 15w would be the limit to save battery some of the tests your doubling the wattage and getting less then 10 frames extra play a game at 30fps at 15w or 39fps but at 30w just seems like madness
Honestly, Asus takes their time with drivers. I would say 2 months+ before we see the Asus driver. It was almost 3 months between the last drivers they released.
The 15W and 30W are manually set to keep the watts from boosting to 43+. In the default "Performance" mode, Asus will boost the watts from 15W to 20W for 2 minutes every time you start a game. And the "Turbo" mode will boost up to 43W for 2 minutes. This just causes unnecessary heat and battery drain.
Hey, I have a lot of previous experience with Intel chips and won't be getting the Claw. The wattage draw and driver compatibility are going to be huge issues IMO.
Waste of power is exaggeration. Some games it can be 10-15 fps going from 18-30w. Others it can be 30fps. And 30W is good for stabilizing the frame time. So even if you get 5 fps more, it will also have more consistent frame pacing. On the tests, the 30w line is always the most strait and therefore the smoothness will be a good lil bonus
@@fresco_dinero5155 Well, sure...there are exceptions but I've noticed the same pattern with my Legion Go. You get very little in exchange for that extra 12W of power in most games. I've been keeping to the 20W preset in most of my games. (Custom TDP is bugged on the Legion Go at the moment).
@@filt3rless awesome bro, installed the latest per instructions and immediately noticed fps boost. When the official one comes out through ASUS, do we need to do anything to get the driver installed?
Do y'all like seeing the start of the benchmarks like this video, or would you rather see mid gameplay with the test already running? Hope y'all enjoy! :)
I like this layout.
No real preference, both are good
Like this layout as well
this layout is fine, it's live and doesn't make it seem like the numbers are just made up.
Any thing you do we are OK with it 🤝🙌
This dude right here? This dude right here is unbelievable! Thanks for such a wonderful job, you definitely make the difference
Thanks man, this means a lot! 🙂
Thanks for your work!
These tests prove once again how important VRR is for handheld gaming.
Keeping a 48 fps compared to 60 helps tons for battery life.
100% VRR is huge. And the LFC (Low Framerate Compensation) which allows it to go to 30FPS is another big bonus at these power levels 🙂
Love my Ally.. I had a deck for a year and that was decent enough but the power of the ally is fantastic. Personally the “windows” experience is fine I’ve never had any issues treating the Ally like a gaming Pc/Laptop.. thanks for the video!
The Ally is a much better "PC" type machine with unlimited freedom. I also have the OLED Steam Deck, which I love, but it has it's limitations. I think the Ally is a fantastic machine, especially after running all these benchmarks. I can see where in docked mode, it's still awesome (the steam deck isn't at all haha). Thanks man, glad you enjoyed the video! :)
Thanks for all the efforts man! Really appreciate the hard work u do!
18W sure looks like the sweet spot 😊
Thanks man, it’s definitely the way to go. I even use 17W and it’s great 😊
@@filt3rlesshi, tell me how to properly configure the cooler and the parameters, so I set it to 17 volts, and how much to set the other parameters. I play more from the socket and it gets very hot up to 95c. How to set the parameters correctly) thanks in advance
Looks like 18w is sweet spot with 5g vram thanks for all the work
I was surprised out how close 18W and 30W is. Asus has done a great job optimizing the mid watt range.
How can I set 18w?
exactly what I run
@@ninhosensei Open Armory Crate, Settings, Operating Mode, select Manual Mode, set all 3 sliders to 18W, adjust fan curves, save the profile by pressing on the checkbox.
@@samserious1337 can I have 2 manual configs?
so im new with ally, this month gonna have my own ally, what i see from this video the sweet spot TDP for the ally is like about 18W, thanks your video helping me to choose wich setting for my ally soon❤🔥
Great video! That jump to 30w with diminishing returns😅 Speaking of which if i can make a suggestion could you make a video with fan curves for 12,17/18 unplugged and 25/30 plugged for best noise/temp balance? I tend to overshoot one way or the other😂
Thanks! And yeah there isn't much gain for going to really high watts. For fan curves I like to use G-Helper since it runs the default profile fan curves from Armoury Crate. So 18W in Performance mode still sounds like if you were using 15W in Armoury Crate.
Any custom fan curve, in G-Helper and AC I found too loud. So I prefer to not set custom fan curves.
Great Effort, I know how much work this is 🙈🙈
Thank you for this great video! Seems like I’ll be going with 17W for everything as you mentioned ❤
Could you please make a video of your fan curves and your config like SPL, SPPT and FPPT?
Hi there guys. I just downloaded the AMD driver 24.1.1 and it works great. I’m playing Tarkov on my Ally with Fluid Motion Frames activated and it makes a huge difference. And to be honest I hardly feel the input lag.
Another great video, thank you! Once AMD releases the FMF drivers for Ally, it would be very interesting to test it with different wattages and see its real benefits (also considering latency). What do you think? Keep it up with the great work m8!
Thanks! I think the AFMF is probably going to have too much latency on the 7840U chips. I could be wrong, but I don't think there is enough overhead in the chip for it to be usable. And the Ally has VRR and LFC (Low Framerate Compensation) so it can go to 30FPS and still look smooth.
@@filt3rless LFC is a feature of the panel, right? I mean, there's no toggle or setup to make it work
Lovely work as usual! Any chance you could show us how to get enshrouded optimized? I'm only getting around 20fps
Honestly Id like to know what 25 w across the board would be like versus 30 w across the board. I dont know if battery life will be any better but itd be nice to see if there are diminishing returns with new update.
There is very little difference between 25 and 30 watts. Ive found 30W to be almost pointless to run. 25W is what I use for high power. Then 17W for mid and 12W for battery saving.
In almost all cases, the performance difference between 30 and 25 watts is only 5% at best.
Might as well lower it for more battery life or a quieter fan.
@@filt3rless was hoping there would be a summary portion at the end of the video w/ this exact information, what you use for high power, mid, low power etc along with any observations you may have had. I love benchmarks as much as any person out there, but a video of benchmarks with no summary feels cold and sterile to me. Either way, love the vids man, you were the first channel I found when I bought my Ally and have found your content to be extremely helpful! Keep up the good work!
I never go over 15 Watt, the performance boost from 15 Watt to 30 Watt is negligible, especially if you see how mutch heat the 30Watt mode is generating in comparison to the 15Watt mode.
The rog ally is nice for being the most powerful gaming handheld but i just find it annoying how they can cram a rtx 4090 into a laptop but we cant even get a handheld on par to an rtx 3050, i hope in the near future theres an option to play most open world games at 1080p 60 high settings
Do you know rtx 4090 mobile is completely different than the desktop one right? Have you seen the lightest 1050 laptop? Do you think you want to lift that thing with your hand for hours?
Welcome💙 🔥🔥🔥
Great job!! Can you do a video of Radeon app explaining all settings and best settings for best quality and best battery life if you can?
Thanks! I have a video that covers just about all the settings for the Ally. On the timestamps the AMD stuff starts at "30": ruclips.net/video/XPKepg96XP8/видео.html
The frame time seems to be more stable now, do you notice any stuttering?
Hello, i suggest you to install bazziteOS running on rog ally and test wattages of games and you can compare it with steam deck too. In bazzite os (steam os) you can adjust low TDPs with some extensions, cap to 30fps or 40fps etc. so please try to make a video of it and test battery life, performance compared to windows and steamdeck..Thankyou
Amazing video, but what fan curve are you using?
I've got an 18w profile and my temperatures are much lower than what it shows in your video... I'm wondering if my curve is too aggressive?
I'm using a program called G-Helper which mimics the Armoury Crate profile. So the 18W is still running off the Armoury Crate performance fan curve (so it's virtually silent).
I'm testing 22W myself then xD
Do you have your screen set up to 1080p and use integer scaling?
Optimum is 20-25W.Try it.
Can you save custom power profiles for each game? because there doesn't seem to be a one size fits all for games. You really need to tune each game with how much juice you give it. From what I've seen it seems to be..
12w : Emulation
15w: Older, less demanding games at high/ultra settings
18-25w: Older but still demanding games & newer less demanding games at low,medium,high settings
30w: New Triple A games which may or may not be playable at low settings only.
In Armoury Crate you can set a per game watt setting. The only thing I don't like about AC is I like to change the wattage on the fly. And AC will immediately override the settings if you've set any and minimize/re-open the window. So I prefer to use a program called G-Helper which allows me to switch pretty quickly, as well as set custom watts.
BTW it so smooth on ally 30+ fps
IDK why and also i use 1080p most on 900p i have some graphics issue on some game
So you just set all the parameters to 18w?
hi filter less can you make video performance versus with msi claw on low watt to high
To me 15w would be the limit to save battery some of the tests your doubling the wattage and getting less then 10 frames extra play a game at 30fps at 15w or 39fps but at 30w just seems like madness
30 watt you only can get plugged in lol the highest on battery is 25😭😭
When do you think the official release will drop?
Honestly, Asus takes their time with drivers. I would say 2 months+ before we see the Asus driver. It was almost 3 months between the last drivers they released.
Hi filterless awesome video can i know which bios version are u on
Thank you! It's on bios 336 for these tests :)
The power setting for 15W dan 30W are stock asus or manually adjusted?
The 15W and 30W are manually set to keep the watts from boosting to 43+. In the default "Performance" mode, Asus will boost the watts from 15W to 20W for 2 minutes every time you start a game. And the "Turbo" mode will boost up to 43W for 2 minutes. This just causes unnecessary heat and battery drain.
15 watt or 18 watt is sweet spot for game no need much power
i faild to find out if this was at 720 or 1080p??
900p
what are you using for overlay? afterburner?
Hey, it's MSI Afterburner but it's a custom overlay I spent way too much time building.
Looking forward similar testing with MSI Claw. It will be hilarious.
Hey, I have a lot of previous experience with Intel chips and won't be getting the Claw. The wattage draw and driver compatibility are going to be huge issues IMO.
What about the OneXPlayer X1? That thing looks like a BEAST!
@@filt3rless Have you had any meteor lake chip yet?
Does ally has bypass charging?
Yes.
Shocking how little you get for pushing up to 30W. It's just a waste of power.
Waste of power is exaggeration. Some games it can be 10-15 fps going from 18-30w. Others it can be 30fps. And 30W is good for stabilizing the frame time. So even if you get 5 fps more, it will also have more consistent frame pacing.
On the tests, the 30w line is always the most strait and therefore the smoothness will be a good lil bonus
@@fresco_dinero5155 Well, sure...there are exceptions but I've noticed the same pattern with my Legion Go. You get very little in exchange for that extra 12W of power in most games.
I've been keeping to the 20W preset in most of my games. (Custom TDP is bugged on the Legion Go at the moment).
Sadly thew 6400MT/s RAM limits the device at a higher wattage.
How to get the new driver?
Installing AMD Graphics Drivers | ROG Ally
ruclips.net/video/lT7NdZRMQe4/видео.html
@@filt3rless awesome bro, installed the latest per instructions and immediately noticed fps boost. When the official one comes out through ASUS, do we need to do anything to get the driver installed?
My rog ally stay at 14 tdp u will thank me later 😅
No thanks. Theal ally official drivers have better performance and better graphics settings
How?
Did you set Ally to 900p or 1080p with RSR on ?