Why would you want to defun an organization who's sole purpose is your safety? Do you want to be the next casualty on a Boeing? You can disagree with a decision without making stupid radical demands like a todler.
FAA to ban wing walking because it's dangerous...hum well ok, but allowed Boeing to auto certify their planes...C'mon... Back to wing walking, must have been a fun one !
For me personally, a sad loss. As I'm in the U.K. I had judged that with a nine year safety record and loads of videos, this was safe to get everything in place, i.e. the flights and accommodation, rental car and training. Then two months prior to my trip the F.A.A. put a stop to it, I am gutted.
Dude. First of all I’m so sorry that blows They had told us there that the only other place in the world that u can sign up to do this is in the UK. Only difference is you start and land on the wing, no movement during flight. U may look into if that is still an option!
@@Clinttoz thanks for that. Due to starting off strapped on the rig in the U.K. I felt that was more risky, hence the reason for booking at Sequim. Losing your business by a change in regulations sucks, never mind the public losing the chance to experience it.
@@michaelbigelow3255 here in the U.K. the companies make you do one flight, non-aerobatic, before being allowed another flight to include them. Certainly not the same as the Mason academy experience.
It was 9 years of flagrant disregard for the rules. Despite their claim that they were approved to operate, they don’t have a single document from the FAA to back up their claims. 9 years of operating under the radar while also abusing the rules of their property doesn’t have anything to do with establishing a “safety record”.
It’s been illegal to perform aerobatics (with a passenger) without parachutes for 15 years. Wing walking wasn’t made illegal. This particular operation’s flagrant disregard for the established rules was finally noticed.
@@SoloRenegade As it should be. Don't need some weak-minded bureaucrat who's scared of a Segway telling me I can't choose my own risk reward ratio. This is getting ridiculous.
@@EUC-lid you can perform aerobatics without a parachute, so long as only required crewmembers are aboard (basically have to be flying alone for light aircraft), it's a required maneuver for flight training such as spins for a flight test or with a CFI, or as required to meet an emergency. 91.307 (b) Except in an emergency, no pilot in command may allow, and no person may conduct, a parachute operation from an aircraft within the United States except in accordance with part 105 of this chapter. (c) Unless each occupant of the aircraft is wearing an approved parachute, no pilot of a civil aircraft carrying any person (other than a crewmember) may execute any intentional maneuver that exceeds- (1) A bank of 60 degrees relative to the horizon; or (2) A nose-up or nose-down attitude of 30 degrees relative to the horizon. (d) Paragraph (c) of this section does not apply to- (1) Flight tests for pilot certification or rating; or (2) Spins and other flight maneuvers required by the regulations for any certificate or rating when given by- (i) A certificated flight instructor; or (ii) An airline transport pilot instructing in accordance with § 61.67 of this chapter. In this case, he was carrying a passenger and so needed parachutes, as you point out.
The Constitution requires that all laws be passed by both houses and signed by the president. The Constitution does not grant congress the authority to override the Constitution. The Executive has no legislative authority. Any 'laws' they create are, by definition unconstitutional.
i don't think you understand what the FAA is... the FAA is an executive office, but it was created by congress. Congress has passed many bills that established a need for a regulatory agency for flight and related activities (which was originally an duty given to the Department of Commerce) congress literally made legislation telling the secretary of commerce to regulate aviation It's not like the president was just like "let's make some rules for aviation!" Also, making regulations is not the same as legislation. Only congress can pass legislation. One thing they can do through legislation is give another agency the authority to regulate certain things. If congress had to manage everything, then nothing would ever get done. Look into bureaucracy. The reason the government can function is because congress gives other agencies the authority to complete tasks using discretion. so your first sentence is mostly correct (barring executive orders which aren't technically legislation but are very similar and have been upheld in the supreme court) your second sentence is 100% false. Rules made by executive agencies apply to everyone within the U.S. because congress gave them the authority to do so.
@redpug5042 Exactly. The Executive has no legislative authority. Any law must be passed by both houses and signed by the president. This is defined by the Constitution. The legislature cannot override the Constitution. The Constitution does not give congress the authority to redefine the branches. I don't think you understand that the Constitution says that the government has no power that is not granted in and by the Constitution. The Constitution rules the government.
@@michaelpcoffee the president is explicitly given the task to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (article II, section 3) offices in the executive branch (i.e. the FAA) are used to assist in the faithful execution of the laws passed by congress. One such law assigned the authority to manage aviation to the Secretary of Commerce. Later bills were passed and created the FAA as a federal office with the authority to govern aviation. The FAA was given power by congress through laws. Congress has the ability to "make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." (Article I, section 8) Congress also has the power to "provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States"(Article I, section 8) In this case, the FAA was created as a necessary department to provide for "general welfare" by protecting citizens from aviation dangers (there were frequent crashes and miscommunications and other widespread issues with aviation) through regulations of the industry. Congress has every bit of authority to create the FAA to regulate aviation, and the FAA certainly has the ability to make regulations (as afforded by congress) because it is part of the executive branch, which is in charge of fulfilling laws that are worded intentionally to be vague to give discretion to the offices.
Honestly not exactly upset they banned it. Insurance is already too expensive for aviation without needless risky flights taking place. Safety has taken the backseat when it really shouldn’t.
Not saying I would ever go against the FAA. Just like black Market anything, there will be a new black market for it, questions then is black market more or less dangerous, thin when alcohol was banned. Black market abortion or drugs. There are human beings out there, that dont care about safety, they wanted to die anyway. Just putting my opinion. Thanks for reading comment.
This is mental, in the UK wing walkers take off with the wing walker firmly strapped on before take off. There is a company near me and they fly hundreds of people every year strapped into the hot seat. Climbing up there with no parachute and being tied to the plane with a cable is totally and utterly insane. I feel that wing walking should be banned as even if the walker is strapped on before take off. If the plane had even a small problem on take off or landing a tail dragger with a heavy radial engine would nose over and go upside down very easily crushing the wing walker. You were just lucky that time. Just imagine for one second what might happen if your luck ran out.
They talked about this when we were getting trained. It’s actually much safer to be in the cockpit for takeoff and landing, as if the plane were to have any issues being strapped to the top of the plane would be the worst place you could be.
“I wish the FAA would *ban itself!”*
Although I would never try this, the government has no business telling me I can't if I want to! Defund the FAA!
Hahahahahahah
Why would you want to defun an organization who's sole purpose is your safety? Do you want to be the next casualty on a Boeing? You can disagree with a decision without making stupid radical demands like a todler.
@@astromos The faa has horrible rules which lets pilots have depression and force them to not be able to seek mental help without loosing their jobs
FAA to ban wing walking because it's dangerous...hum well ok, but allowed Boeing to auto certify their planes...C'mon...
Back to wing walking, must have been a fun one !
FAA major buzz killers. Same for RC model flying and FPV.
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For me personally, a sad loss. As I'm in the U.K. I had judged that with a nine year safety record and loads of videos, this was safe to get everything in place, i.e. the flights and accommodation, rental car and training. Then two months prior to my trip the F.A.A. put a stop to it, I am gutted.
Dude. First of all I’m so sorry that blows
They had told us there that the only other place in the world that u can sign up to do this is in the UK. Only difference is you start and land on the wing, no movement during flight. U may look into if that is still an option!
@@Clinttoz thanks for that. Due to starting off strapped on the rig in the U.K. I felt that was more risky, hence the reason for booking at Sequim. Losing your business by a change in regulations sucks, never mind the public losing the chance to experience it.
@@michaelbigelow3255 here in the U.K. the companies make you do one flight, non-aerobatic, before being allowed another flight to include them. Certainly not the same as the Mason academy experience.
It was 9 years of flagrant disregard for the rules. Despite their claim that they were approved to operate, they don’t have a single document from the FAA to back up their claims. 9 years of operating under the radar while also abusing the rules of their property doesn’t have anything to do with establishing a “safety record”.
The faa revoked a wing walking certification for that one company only. Wing walking has never banned outright.
The FAA is like Boss Hog of the sky.
Dumb that that's illegal now. Stupid over-protective FAA. Let people enjoy their recreations. It's not the gov'ts place to decide that.
yup, as long as you're not putting others in danger, you are allowed to put your own life at risk to your heart's content.
It’s been illegal to perform aerobatics (with a passenger) without parachutes for 15 years. Wing walking wasn’t made illegal. This particular operation’s flagrant disregard for the established rules was finally noticed.
@@SoloRenegade As it should be. Don't need some weak-minded bureaucrat who's scared of a Segway telling me I can't choose my own risk reward ratio. This is getting ridiculous.
@@EUC-lid Interesting. Good to know. So, this channel intentionally mis-led their audience for views is seems... I'm disappointed but not surprised.
@@EUC-lid you can perform aerobatics without a parachute, so long as only required crewmembers are aboard (basically have to be flying alone for light aircraft), it's a required maneuver for flight training such as spins for a flight test or with a CFI, or as required to meet an emergency.
91.307
(b) Except in an emergency, no pilot in command may allow, and no person may conduct, a parachute operation from an aircraft within the United States except in accordance with part 105 of this chapter.
(c) Unless each occupant of the aircraft is wearing an approved parachute, no pilot of a civil aircraft carrying any person (other than a crewmember) may execute any intentional maneuver that exceeds-
(1) A bank of 60 degrees relative to the horizon; or
(2) A nose-up or nose-down attitude of 30 degrees relative to the horizon.
(d) Paragraph (c) of this section does not apply to-
(1) Flight tests for pilot certification or rating; or
(2) Spins and other flight maneuvers required by the regulations for any certificate or rating when given by-
(i) A certificated flight instructor; or
(ii) An airline transport pilot instructing in accordance with § 61.67 of this chapter.
In this case, he was carrying a passenger and so needed parachutes, as you point out.
Good to see another post. Hope everything is going well.
thanks man, had a bit of a concussion but just getting back into the normal swing of things
The Constitution requires that all laws be passed by both houses and signed by the president.
The Constitution does not grant congress the authority to override the Constitution.
The Executive has no legislative authority.
Any 'laws' they create are, by definition unconstitutional.
Now only if they FAA can DEI
They banned this???? WTF!!! Now I really want to do it and cant. Cool bro.
Ah I wish u could. It was like nothing else
Hellll yeah
I'm a pilot and also jumped from planes for 13 years but THIS.......NO...it's not for me.
Hahaha to each their own
sick viddd! editing is getting way better dude.
Ty bro :)
The Executive has no legislative authority. Any rules they create apply only to agents of the Executive office.
i don't think you understand what the FAA is...
the FAA is an executive office, but it was created by congress. Congress has passed many bills that established a need for a regulatory agency for flight and related activities (which was originally an duty given to the Department of Commerce)
congress literally made legislation telling the secretary of commerce to regulate aviation
It's not like the president was just like "let's make some rules for aviation!"
Also, making regulations is not the same as legislation.
Only congress can pass legislation.
One thing they can do through legislation is give another agency the authority to regulate certain things.
If congress had to manage everything, then nothing would ever get done. Look into bureaucracy.
The reason the government can function is because congress gives other agencies the authority to complete tasks using discretion.
so your first sentence is mostly correct (barring executive orders which aren't technically legislation but are very similar and have been upheld in the supreme court)
your second sentence is 100% false.
Rules made by executive agencies apply to everyone within the U.S. because congress gave them the authority to do so.
@redpug5042
Exactly. The Executive has no legislative authority.
Any law must be passed by both houses and signed by the president.
This is defined by the Constitution.
The legislature cannot override the Constitution.
The Constitution does not give congress the authority to redefine the branches.
I don't think you understand that the Constitution says that the government has no power that is not granted in and by the Constitution. The Constitution rules the government.
@@michaelpcoffee the president is explicitly given the task to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed" (article II, section 3)
offices in the executive branch (i.e. the FAA) are used to assist in the faithful execution of the laws passed by congress. One such law assigned the authority to manage aviation to the Secretary of Commerce.
Later bills were passed and created the FAA as a federal office with the authority to govern aviation.
The FAA was given power by congress through laws.
Congress has the ability to "make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof." (Article I, section 8)
Congress also has the power to
"provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States"(Article I, section 8)
In this case, the FAA was created as a necessary department to provide for "general welfare" by protecting citizens from aviation dangers (there were frequent crashes and miscommunications and other widespread issues with aviation) through regulations of the industry.
Congress has every bit of authority to create the FAA to regulate aviation, and the FAA certainly has the ability to make regulations (as afforded by congress) because it is part of the executive branch, which is in charge of fulfilling laws that are worded intentionally to be vague to give discretion to the offices.
Rad af what happens if you slip and the blades …
the put a lot of emphasis on not slipping
@@Clinttoz I hope they did cuz what if the plain was flying over some town 💀
that much wind force, there is no way you are falling forward
100% chance will definitely fall into the blades.
The length of the wire is less than the distance to the prop, it's measured.
The FAA did not ban this for safety reasons, it was because there was some stupid FAR/AIM rule he was breaking
Bro whaaatt
What was the plane? Looks like a Stearman to me.
that was so sick! was kinda giving me Sickos vibes
Ty bro
i feel like there’s still a way to make it happen lol
Honestly not exactly upset they banned it. Insurance is already too expensive for aviation without needless risky flights taking place. Safety has taken the backseat when it really shouldn’t.
Banning it for the insurance industry would not be banning it for safety.
He was already operating uninsured because it was never a legal operation.
Not saying I would ever go against the FAA. Just like black Market anything, there will be a new black market for it, questions then is black market more or less dangerous, thin when alcohol was banned. Black market abortion or drugs. There are human beings out there, that dont care about safety, they wanted to die anyway. Just putting my opinion. Thanks for reading comment.
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This is mental, in the UK wing walkers take off with the wing walker firmly strapped on before take off. There is a company near me and they fly hundreds of people every year strapped into the hot seat.
Climbing up there with no parachute and being tied to the plane with a cable is totally and utterly insane.
I feel that wing walking should be banned as even if the walker is strapped on before take off. If the plane had even a small problem on take off or landing a tail dragger with a heavy radial engine would nose over and go upside down very easily crushing the wing walker.
You were just lucky that time. Just imagine for one second what might happen if your luck ran out.
They talked about this when we were getting trained. It’s actually much safer to be in the cockpit for takeoff and landing, as if the plane were to have any issues being strapped to the top of the plane would be the worst place you could be.