@@whatthehellimbored no we tried using the 60V flexvolt battery on the jobsite and the router kept stalling out and got super hot and smoked The 36V Hikok/Metabo HPTi has more oomph than DeWalt and Milkwaukee and better protection cut off But if u want a real beast for with the 1/2" full size Hikoki/Metabo HPT Plunge router we have two if them and they can also be use with the AC adapter and in a router table
The little Shinwa rule is a nice touch. What a nice guy the ebay seller is. I have a number is Shinwa squares and rules. Super handy and nice in the hand. As far as the routers go, I will just wait until makita comes out with a 40v version. But, thanks for the video. Super fun!
I cant say for sure but i think the regulars(or at least me) watch ur vids for the experience and atmosphere u put out in every vids. I don't really know how to explain it, maybe it's like a conversation going on when watching ur vids or something else. That being said, I don't watch ur vids with expectations to get every bit of accurate information bout the tools, like you said many factors decide the outcome, I watch ur vids to get a general idea and feeling bout the tools, and ur thoughts on the tools(sometimes not just tools, ur insights, speculations, criticisms regarding tool companies or whatever). So yeah, I subscribed for your stuff, not for a particular brand's stuff tldr: I really like your style and chill personality(your vids just feel 'real' and down to earth), keep it up, even if you happen to change I will still stick around
Great review and I think all the questions anyone might have regarding Hikoki routers are answered. I really appreciate your final thoughts and recommendations. I think I'll go with the 36v trimmer since I already have a plunge corded one for bigger and more occasional tasks, the 36v trimmer seems to have the best balance between power and size. Even though I'm invested in the Hikoki/Metabo HPT platform I love your channel and ALL your reviews no matter what the tools' brand or country of origin they are. Looking forward to the multitool review too!! Keep up the good work!
You may find on the small stuff the difference between 18v & 36v is the runtime. Appreciate you said power was not noticeable on the roundovers, but maybe runtime is... You could run either 36v router with a mains power cord! Be interested to see the power results. Of course it would offer unlimited runtime over the 18v which can't have a cord The other benefit of 18v is the 'not top heavy' 3ah packs...
More Hikoki TTR please & all the other power tool brand's too. I'm VERY interested to know if Hikoki have a new "Power Stack" battery coming out soon. As Dewalt 20v max have just released it & apparently flex power tools have it already. It my not be as strong as others, but it gets the job done. I like it & your purple colored impact driver. Jim from Philly fixed just received his black & white Hikoki 36v impact dr, because of you. Lol Thanks bro, appreciate your time. 🙏🏾👍🏾🖤's🤙🏾🔥🔥🔥
The quiet impact by Hikoki looks interesting. From what I could make out in the pics on eBay🤣 it seems to use sort of a double 1/2 anvil to mitigate noise as opposed to oil and does something like 70db. Like to see how that tech stacks. Anyway thanks man!
That hikoki multitool is the best tool for blade changes short of the fein or festool. The fact with one twist more than starlock you can fit ANY style of blade is a winner in my book
I looked into it. Starlock can handle higher oscillation range and torque compared to the OIS system. Hence why makita went that eay with the dtm52. They use 80mm lomg blades and has a range of movement of 3.6°. Festool has 4° of movement and uses a similar starlock design as well.
I would argue that the rigid is the best with dewalt at a very close second when it comes to blade changes. Tool less changing is a winner for me. I had the metabo hpt multi tool and couldn’t get used to it.
Great video as always. I loved your comment 'i wish it was a little better than it is'. I really dislike the electronic switch with time out! Hoping they make a matching 40v router by makita so i can use my existing corded router bases (they are the best) and that it is alittle bit better than the hikoki 😉
I’ve heard that the makita plunge base with a little shaving of the guide pin will accept the 18v hikoki trimmer, So the 36v should also slide in. That would be a deadly combo, the 36v hikoki with all the bases from makita
I loved your review of this and the plunge so much that I went I imported one of the 36v trim routers to the states. I am also awaiting delivery of the plunge. Only thing is, where can I find the 1/4 inch collet? Only thing my lackluster google-ing could drum up was to just buy the 18v one and take that collet.
Can you test the makita plunge base on the hikoki 36V please. I’ve heard you can slightly modify the guide pin so that it accepts the hikoki trimmer. Thanks
There is a Japanese video review of the 36v hikoki trimmer where they test the Makita plunge base with it and it seems to fit and work without any problem.
Thanks man just checked it out! I recon I’ll buy the makita router with all the bases, then give it afew months and either buy hikoki 36v from Japan or fingers crossed 40v if it comes out. That’s when the wife allows me to haha
That sounds positive.. I’m also in NZ and I’m mainly on the Hikoki platform (18v mostly, gradually acquiring multivolt tools). But I did get the corded Makita trim router kit with all their four bases.. it’d be great if those bases worked on cordless Hikoki tool.
They do, I have one. They just call it by a different brand name here. Look up Metabo HPT Trim Router. I've owned one since they came out and it's a freaking beast. I've since switched all my power tools over to Metabo. They're incredible
They did the same with the die grinder, 36v model for japan and 18v for the rest of the world. The 36v router and die is only for the Japanese domestic market. They decided 18v was the best option for them 2 tools for the rest of the world.
No idea, I spent a bit of time trying find out why. Some hikoki tools in japan they have 14.4v, 18v and 36v of the same tool. The 125mm metal saw is one example, come in 3 voltages
@@Andrew-xd9fg They also have 36v batteries in Japan that don't work with 18v tools, like the bsl3660, so I could see why they might want to have a 36v version of most of their tools available there.
I tried to tear it down but no way too tight 🤣 If you could please do a teardown review to compare 18volt and 36volt's motor winding. I want to know if 36volt' wire is smaller in dimeter.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Wow, I haven't been over for a fair while but have spent a few weeks up there at Centennial Hut in winter. Seems to have really receded a lot. I did recognise the take off point but the glacier surprises me. Lots of happy memories in Franz & NZ - friendliest country in the world. Hope to get my kids over once the crazy settles down. Longtime regular viewer. Really enjoy your stuff. Been wondering how Makita lawn mowers stack up. Cheers PP
HiKOKI 36v Trim Router VS Makita, Milwaukee and more ruclips.net/video/nto4xr6y2fM/видео.html
Wait..does the DeWalt compact router have more power than the hikoki full size?!?!?
@@whatthehellimbored no we tried using the 60V flexvolt battery on the jobsite and the router kept stalling out and got super hot and smoked
The 36V Hikok/Metabo HPTi has more oomph than DeWalt and Milkwaukee and better protection cut off
But if u want a real beast for with the 1/2" full size Hikoki/Metabo HPT Plunge router we have two if them and they can also be use with the AC adapter and in a router table
Came for the router, stayed for the mountains, cheers.
The little Shinwa rule is a nice touch. What a nice guy the ebay seller is. I have a number is Shinwa squares and rules. Super handy and nice in the hand.
As far as the routers go, I will just wait until makita comes out with a 40v version. But, thanks for the video. Super fun!
I cant say for sure but i think the regulars(or at least me) watch ur vids for the experience and atmosphere u put out in every vids. I don't really know how to explain it, maybe it's like a conversation going on when watching ur vids or something else. That being said, I don't watch ur vids with expectations to get every bit of accurate information bout the tools, like you said many factors decide the outcome, I watch ur vids to get a general idea and feeling bout the tools, and ur thoughts on the tools(sometimes not just tools, ur insights, speculations, criticisms regarding tool companies or whatever). So yeah, I subscribed for your stuff, not for a particular brand's stuff
tldr: I really like your style and chill personality(your vids just feel 'real' and down to earth), keep it up, even if you happen to change I will still stick around
Cheers man
Great review and I think all the questions anyone might have regarding Hikoki routers are answered. I really appreciate your final thoughts and recommendations. I think I'll go with the 36v trimmer since I already have a plunge corded one for bigger and more occasional tasks, the 36v trimmer seems to have the best balance between power and size. Even though I'm invested in the Hikoki/Metabo HPT platform I love your channel and ALL your reviews no matter what the tools' brand or country of origin they are. Looking forward to the multitool review too!! Keep up the good work!
I wish makita do something similar with 40v. And if they do something like fixed base router it would be awesome.
Great review!
Makita do have a 40v max version of their 18v trim router out in Japan now.
You may find on the small stuff the difference between 18v & 36v is the runtime. Appreciate you said power was not noticeable on the roundovers, but maybe runtime is...
You could run either 36v router with a mains power cord! Be interested to see the power results. Of course it would offer unlimited runtime over the 18v which can't have a cord
The other benefit of 18v is the 'not top heavy' 3ah packs...
More Hikoki TTR please & all the other power tool brand's too. I'm VERY interested to know if Hikoki have a new "Power Stack" battery coming out soon. As Dewalt 20v max have just released it & apparently flex power tools have it already. It my not be as strong as others, but it gets the job done. I like it & your purple colored impact driver. Jim from Philly fixed just received his black & white Hikoki 36v impact dr, because of you. Lol
Thanks bro, appreciate your time. 🙏🏾👍🏾🖤's🤙🏾🔥🔥🔥
They already have an 18v 5ah battery with 5 21700 cells that’s has a similar footprint as the dewalt power stack battery. Part number BSL 1850C
Ah the good old safety footwear good to see
i really enjoy the actual unboxing because it is very rare to see everything included on yputube
Now I'm waiting for the helicopter review.🚁😉
The quiet impact by Hikoki looks interesting. From what I could make out in the pics on eBay🤣 it seems to use sort of a double 1/2 anvil to mitigate noise as opposed to oil and does something like 70db. Like to see how that tech stacks. Anyway thanks man!
Never heard of it until your post. Sounds interesting, I'll go do some research.
@@ToolHombre awesome, yeah check it out it looks pretty cool. 👍
That hikoki multitool is the best tool for blade changes short of the fein or festool. The fact with one twist more than starlock you can fit ANY style of blade is a winner in my book
I looked into it. Starlock can handle higher oscillation range and torque compared to the OIS system. Hence why makita went that eay with the dtm52. They use 80mm lomg blades and has a range of movement of 3.6°. Festool has 4° of movement and uses a similar starlock design as well.
I would argue that the rigid is the best with dewalt at a very close second when it comes to blade changes. Tool less changing is a winner for me. I had the metabo hpt multi tool and couldn’t get used to it.
That helicopter ride was flipping awesome.
Great video as always. I loved your comment 'i wish it was a little better than it is'. I really dislike the electronic switch with time out! Hoping they make a matching 40v router by makita so i can use my existing corded router bases (they are the best) and that it is alittle bit better than the hikoki 😉
I’ve heard that the makita plunge base with a little shaving of the guide pin will accept the 18v hikoki trimmer,
So the 36v should also slide in.
That would be a deadly combo, the 36v hikoki with all the bases from makita
I loved your review of this and the plunge so much that I went I imported one of the 36v trim routers to the states. I am also awaiting delivery of the plunge. Only thing is, where can I find the 1/4 inch collet? Only thing my lackluster google-ing could drum up was to just buy the 18v one and take that collet.
Can you test the makita plunge base on the hikoki 36V please.
I’ve heard you can slightly modify the guide pin so that it accepts the hikoki trimmer.
Thanks
There is a Japanese video review of the 36v hikoki trimmer where they test the Makita plunge base with it and it seems to fit and work without any problem.
Would you be able to link it if possible man? I can’t find it
ThNks heaps
If not try the first result of this search:
【工具】HIKOKIがトリマ出したって聞いたので使ってみたよ M3608DA マルチボルト(36ｖ)
The plunge base appears at min 15:20
Thanks man just checked it out!
I recon I’ll buy the makita router with all the bases, then give it afew months and either buy hikoki 36v from Japan or fingers crossed 40v if it comes out.
That’s when the wife allows me to haha
That sounds positive.. I’m also in NZ and I’m mainly on the Hikoki platform (18v mostly, gradually acquiring multivolt tools). But I did get the corded Makita trim router kit with all their four bases.. it’d be great if those bases worked on cordless Hikoki tool.
I wish they would bring this out in the US. Ive been drooling over it for years.
They do, I have one. They just call it by a different brand name here. Look up Metabo HPT Trim Router.
I've owned one since they came out and it's a freaking beast. I've since switched all my power tools over to Metabo. They're incredible
Yes 36v in 🇺🇸
Just check the shop, a bit over priced, but there are some interesting tools. I saw a 40V XGT Makita router, that thing will be a beast.
7 months ago ruclips.net/video/qClPSyaW_cM/видео.html
Great vid thanks mate. Your vids have got me sorta frothing for that 36v plunge router, why do I do this to myself
They did the same with the die grinder, 36v model for japan and 18v for the rest of the world. The 36v router and die is only for the Japanese domestic market. They decided 18v was the best option for them 2 tools for the rest of the world.
I noticed that too! Why is that ? Is japan willing to spend more ? Cant think of anything else!
No idea, I spent a bit of time trying find out why. Some hikoki tools in japan they have 14.4v, 18v and 36v of the same tool. The 125mm metal saw is one example, come in 3 voltages
@@Andrew-xd9fg They also have 36v batteries in Japan that don't work with 18v tools, like the bsl3660, so I could see why they might want to have a 36v version of most of their tools available there.
Present is good! I use only these japanese ruler . Brand is Shinwa.
Milford Sound? Gotta be somewhere on the South Island.
Good review, as always!
I just watched this and noticed the opening is completely wrong. OOPS!
love ya reviews. Im kiwi in Japan.
Why do you screw it to the wall?? I don't know...
Just ordered one 👍🏻
I tried to tear it down but no way too tight 🤣 If you could please do a teardown review to compare 18volt and 36volt's motor winding. I want to know if 36volt' wire is smaller in dimeter.
"Wife wants a padded head board screwed to the wall"
......nothing sus
Is it made in Japan ?
Waiting for the portable bandsaw review 🙄
I have liked this video before I have seen it ???
I liked your comment before liking or watching the video!
I like to work in just jandels aswell haha good shit
maybe some metabo in the future
Yes... maybe.
Would love to see vs the Makita. Milwaukee? Meh
Been super busy, haven't got the video edited yet.
Any chance of a review of the new dewalt atomic impact driver?
Possible... but don't hold your breath.
Jesus, that waterfall.
How many 36v batteries took to fly that chopper?
It ran on good old fashioned AvGas
Why?
Whats vibration like?
Almost non existent. Seriously, this router is amazing
i have a feeling the 36v trimmer runs at 18v
Why?
Does the 1/4 collect from the 18v fit the 36v? If no, can you get a 1/4 from Japan for it?
Yes they are interchangeable. I used the same collet for both in the video tests.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL cool thank you. Can you confirm if the makita bases can be used?
I just filmed a video about it. Up in a couple of days.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL looking forward to it
it looks like Makita DRT50 :)
Some glacier run off viewed from your choppe,r bought from the procceds of pumping Hikoki.😂
Just kidding. Really like all your videos.
Fox? Always good to see some Kiwi scenery, anyway! Great channel. Keep 'em coming. Cheers PP
Franz
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Wow, I haven't been over for a fair while but have spent a few weeks up there at Centennial Hut in winter. Seems to have really receded a lot. I did recognise the take off point but the glacier surprises me. Lots of happy memories in Franz & NZ - friendliest country in the world. Hope to get my kids over once the crazy settles down. Longtime regular viewer. Really enjoy your stuff. Been wondering how Makita lawn mowers stack up. Cheers PP
I've only used a makita mower once. Might do a review once the 40v ones drop.