*The 3 speed is good **MyBest.Tools** trying to keep to a low speed for a long time with just the trigger is hard.The only negative is I keep bumping the on/off switch when changing blades, not dangerous but annoying.*
We are replacing the subfloor in our home ruclips.net/user/postUgkx0vyBwjtx9GGOuiqUVT2sRoYqmDoNT_RI and this tool has proved to be invaluable. So many different uses. Cutting away boards in tight places, cutting water pipes to name a few. We love Dewalt tools in general, but have really enjoyed the flexibility and durability of this multitool.
My first multi tool is about 7 years old and cost about £25! It's corded and cordless one would be fantastic but for a cheap guild from Argos it has done me well and always one of them tools that gets me out of a jam and the vibration isn't to bad. Great video
Based on your review I have purchased Fein corded tool.One of the best power tools that I ever had!Outstanding quality and value!Thank you Skillbuilder!
I have been working in the home remodeling industry for 34 years my very first multi-tool was the corded Fein tool. since then I have used many different battery-powered multi-tool snd for me i have to choose the bosch for cutting speed accuracy and battery life.
Had a topcon rhl3 for about 14 years, never missed a beat, never calibrated but tested against other new levels every few years. Had to take the batteries out or they would run themselves dead. Sold it for 1/2 what I paid for it. Now have a lieca 640, box is too big and receiver is slow to pick and sometimes say too low for a few seconds then go over to too high, will be back to topcon when I can get this one shifted to someone. My old topcon was worth every penny
All lithium Ion batteries like to remain at as close to half charge as possible, that leave the internals balanced, and they will last the longest this way, Which is why if you leave a battery for a long time, you want to leave it as you say, with 6-70% chaarge, and then as it drains over time it will spend its time around the 50% mark :)
I decided to purchase a metabo battery kit 6 years ago thinking German quality, how wrong could I have been, the 18 volt mid range drill lasted 3 years, the multi tool is just about had it, the batteries lost charge capacity after 2 years, replaced with Dewalt kit a18 volt lithium ion brushless drill 1 year ago and it is miles better constructed and performs faultlessly. I have a corded recipricating saw 5 years old and a corded tile saw, also a Bosch multi drill and double bevel mitre saw. Dewalt and Bosch all the way for me, I do not abuse tools but make them work hard, just my personal thoughts. Building trade for over 30 years.
I like what you said about fain. It has less vibration. As a carpenter I had Dewalt, most cases the battery it’s in the way and you cannot fill your fingers after 1min of use, too much vibration. Had a Bosch, after heavy use the head come out, screws snapped in the body, and bad vibrations.
Hi Rodger i have been using Fein for 23 years have 2 of the old type corded not much goes wrong with them just sometimes have to tighten wire connections inside and replace brushes every 3 years but these tools run most days doing regrouting showers etc in the market now to buy a new one it will be a fein .
I've got the Bosch, 18v, I have several other bosch 18v tools so I had batteries and could buy the bare tool. I like it a lot, the starlock system is great. I really like that you mentioned the whole corded vs cordless debate for DIYs. I've had this conversation with friends who are weekend warrior DIYers, I tell them to NOT buy the cheap cordless tools, the batteries are the weak link, buy a corded whatever it will last you a lifetime and no batteries to contend with. Great review. Cheers from Tokyo Stu
Yes, it would be good to know what is the best "cheap" mains cable multi tool for us DIY/occasional users. I'm sure some are complete crap, but I don't really need a battery, high end version.
@@raytrevor1 I don't think multi-tools (and sanders) need a battery like the way miter, circ, and table saws do, but having a corded Dremel multi-tool and a cordless Dewalt, the cordless is so much easier to use.
For the festool and fein Oslo tool company sell a adapter so using the cheaper blades is no problems. Having arthritis in my hands the festool is great and a massive improvement over the dewalt I had.
I used to do the windows for the London Underground Jubilee line trains. The front windscreens are about 50mm thick in a recessed bonded aperture, it was about 2 to 3 hours hard work, I used a Fein corded oscillating tool to cut them out, no matter how hard I pushed it that tool did not give up, it often got so hot I couldn't pick it up unless I had thick leather gloves on but it just did not stop. Fein definitely the King.
Excellent review of a guy who understands his job, has experience and perspective. Thank you. Even though most of my machines are Hitachi, I'm going to buy a Milwaukee along with their new battery operated ratchet. 🙂
Thanks Roger you helped me make my mind up on the new tool, I have moved away from 18v Dewalt tools to 12v Milwaukee tools and I have not been disappointed so another 12v Milwaukee will be welcomed aboard
Good review with lots of detail. To add to Rogers comment to DIY's, I would reccomend corded tools to them. Unless you go through work/charge cycles with the batteries they don't last.
Just bought the Milwaukee 18v Fuel - I am impressed generally with Milwaukee tools so I have a lot of batteries which obviously influenced my decision. The vibration is low compated to others I have used and so is the noise levels. One thing is the angle of reciprocation which is over 4 degrees and thus you can cut qucikly. Don't know how this compares with others but it was mentioned in another review on the Milwaukee I viewed. So for jobs requiring a lot of quick cuts this may be important.
I currently have a corded Stanley fatMax, does everything I need but my current battery platform is the Bosch 18V. Thinking about getting the Bosch, as a gardener I end up doing all sorts of jobs and I don't always have access to power outlets in the field so to speak!
As a window glazer I use a multi tool every day and lean all my weight on these for hours. The only ones that last longer theme a month or two are the Fein and the Mikita. That being said I have not used the festool.
Man I used to do that job! Would run that stinking fein (corded, it's been 15 years ago now) til it was hot enough it was hard to hold onto. That gray rubber sealant was a nightmare but never did stop, much less, kill one of those feins!
Many thanks for this informative review Roger. As a DIYer I'm pleased you mentioned the budget brands. Although I have a number of Makita tools I have a Parkside cordless multi tool. It must be worlds away from the pro names but it has impressed me with its capability and run time on a 1.5 Ah battery. One useful and surprisingly effective feature my machine has is through-pad dust extraction for the triangular sanding tool. It's a real cheapo clip on thing and requires a vacuum to be attached. Seems a bit mad hooking a cabled vac onto a cordless tool, but hey ho, it works well 😅. I didn't see you mention such a feature on these review units. I'd love to see a comparison of the various multi tool cutting blades and attachments. They range in price greatly.
I must say I agree about Fein. used to supply these to my workforce when they first turned up and have kept with them ever since. Try as they might sometimes, my guys could rarely break them. The same applies to drills especially, you do get what you pay for in this instance. We must all cut our cloth according to our budget however and these days one can really get a good selection of tools for very little expense if only occasional use is needed.
I've got an older Einhell one, with variable speed control an without the quick change. Einhell PXC Cordless Multifunctional Tool TC-MG 18 Li-Solo But, I converted it, by using open blades an attachments, an using a posi screwbolt instead of a socket screw. Takes seconds to change an replace blades. Works for me.
I bought the corded DeWalt because of that stored battery issue…as an occasional user, a battery version won’t get enough exercise. However, do note….Do NOT store Li-ion batts on full charge, it will shorten their life cycles (re-charges)…store between half and two thirds charge. Ultimately, and now I have a Dewalt 18v drill, I am torn as to whether I should have just gone full cordless regime. However, when the batt system changes, you might be left with obsolete tools huh!
I’m an electrician and I’m switching over to exclusively M12 for daily use. My company provides 18V tools whenever I need them, so I’m able to run lightweight tools every day.
I’ve got all makita tools but didn’t want to buy their multi-tool - not brushless, not star lock etc.. I’ve gone for the Bosch which I’m very happy with and which offers good value for the performance. Found the vibration data and noise data in the video useful. I run the Bosch on low speed when I can to minimise unnecessary noise and vibration and that helps. If we’re doing more of these then please do job site table saws. Keep up the good work - found this series very useful.
I've got the Makita and it lasts a fair while on a 5aH, doesn't vibrate your hand making it good for trying to get straight cuts, it is pretty heavy though. Bosch Curve Tec blades are the best(IMO).
Thanks for vid. Very nice to understand, you use a clear and unexcited pronunciation. Even it was not on purpose, nice to take care of non native speakers.
I have the Fein on 240v for 14 years but as soon dewalt bring battery powered multi tool I've never used the main powered one (I have it from 6-7 years and still use it) do the job for sure BUT .... from one and a half year have Festool as well it is from a different planet when I compare with Dewalt one cutting like crazy and all the attachments in the box staying in the same place every time make a huge difference Thanks
Erm by your numbers the Bosch is the best value. I had the brushless dewalt with out the speed selection switch liked the blade change, found it not too loud but hated the trigger for detail sanding so sold it, looked at the Makita as I have the battery platform as well but the blade change sucks so went with Bosch ticked all the boxes, find myself going for the Bosch grinder rather than the dewalt 54v because of the switch or the Makita grinder because the Bosch runs harder with better longer lasting batteries but then I use my Makita dtd170 impact driver every day and won’t use anything else. Then I find myself looking at the Milwaukee m12 stuff for working on cars and stop myself, it’s a sickness boys,best
I really appreciate your videos and the experience you have and the care you put into them shines through. When deciding on new tools, it is a considered choice and your reviews really helps inform and reassure so many thanks.
Unless I missed it, what you didn't point out is the Fein are multi voltage they will work with any Fein 12v 14v or 18v batteries. I've owned a Cordless MultiMaster for a few years now & the battery life is phenomenal on the 18v 5ah batteries. I've used the Dewalt, Bosch, Makita & Milwaukee on site & none come close to the Fein. Mates scoffed at the price I paid for the Fein but then when they use it they are like wow got to admit it's in a different league.
Glad this video is on today. Brilliant review for a brilliant tool. A multitool is genuinely one of those tools that makes you wonder why you didn't get it sooner. Thanks Roger
Like you said Roger, for the pro it's more about what battery platform you're on. I'm on the DeWalt platform because I got a great deal on a drill at college and built my kit from there. I have been tempted by Milwaukee a few times but I don't want two sets of batteries and chargers and replacing everything in one hit is just too expensive. So I'm sticking with DeWalt, for now.
Love my old mains fien but I recently purchased a set of metabo 18v tools and been a very happy camper with them the multi tool has seen a lot of work cutting bugle head screws out of concrete forms. I use my tools everyday as I am a bridge builder and farmer as well as doing Abit of wood working for fun.
I bought this Fein a few years ago to replace the corded one I had, as I needed to use it where I couldnt plug in etc. If I lost it tomorrow I`d buy another one the next day. Great review !
Fein is my chosen brand . The older I get - the more of a tool snob I become. Some lucky dog is going to inherit my collection one of these days ; if my Wife doesn't force a sale in the meantime
Milwaukee 12v blew me away lads had the old version of the dewalt but it gave up on me time for a upgraded decided to take a stab at the Milwaukee completely on the dewalt platform but took a plunge on this absolute animal of a machine literally takes using a multitool to a new height no weight or size problems here and power is on point with anything I've used on any 18v platform here's to the milwaukee 👍
Perfect video again . ..looks like the DeWalt for me then thanks Rog ..in about 4 weeks I will need a table saw 👍. Off to Screwfix now . Have a great weekend.
Agree. Chopsaw could do. Also if at all possible, some DIY level mitre saws would be nice to be reviewed by you. I have a 18v Ryobi compact sliding mitre saw and it is brilhante for the price you pay when you compare with big brands.
I use a Ridgid Jobmax which has interchangeable heads like a jigsaw, a right angle drill, a sheet metal nibbler, a sander & an oscillator. It is surprisingly good. Uses the standard batteries, oscillator has a great tool change...best of all it is cheap!
Makita has just released their DTM52Z in japan, it uses starlock max, has a more powerful brushless motor and has much lower vibration than the previous model. It is a shame it wasn't available when you did this review as i'd love to see how it compares to the fein. Maybe you could do a fein vs makita rematch video using the upcoming model?
Everybody says Fein invented it, but I am not so sure. I recall a BBC Tomorrow's World back in the 1960s with Raymond Baxter when he looked at a new surgical tool. It was what we know as the DIY multitool except that it used a sharp blade, not a serrated saw-type blade, and it vibrated a minuscule distance very, very fast. The purpose was to cut bones during surgery and when it bumped into muscle it simply vibrated the muscle without cutting it. OK, I expect that it the surgeon pressed really hard for a 'long' time then the muscle would be damaged, but that wasn't the object, which was to prevent damage during accidental encounters. So was the Fein made and sold in the mid 1960's? Incidentally, I have a Bosch corded tool and I am monumentally chuffed with it, in fact I reckon that I would be thus chuffed at any of them; it has made so many jobs such a breeze, a brilliant tool (and it does everything that our builder's Fein does at a fraction of the cost).
I have a dewalt setup, the quick change is superior and is a bigger plus than millwauke's better grip profile. Just get the multitool that matches your setup, they all do the job.
I own the Bosch and have also used the Makita. Both work well but I much prefer the Bosch. The battery orientation on the Makita is a bit awkward and I feel the Bosch runs a little bit smoother (very subjective!). The blade changing mechanism on the Bosch is also much better. The Bosch is cheap compared to the Festool but you really get your money's worth I think. I don't find that the Starlock blades are too expensive. I use Bosch blades currently and they hold up well to abuse. I only buy them in bulk or on sale, that way the price comes down. I use tools professionally so I realize that approach not be viable for home gamers.
Great video! Fein's are incredible. I have 2 old style corded models. I don't care for the Starlock due to blade expense and will not buy. They need to bring back a model that takes universal blades and call it the "Fein Classic". Thanks again,
p.p.s. despite my last very sarcastic comment, I do actually think a very un-sexy but quite useful showdown in the future might be a comparison of high end dust masks, lots of stuff to cover like the difference between P and N ratings, how to use properly, built-in vs replaceable filters, comfort for long periods etc. Not really a brand comparison but I would certainly be very interested. We need to strip off some old lead paint from railings for example, and it's hard working out what we actually need. (Probably way too un-sexy for a Skill Builder video though I suppose?)
I run Dewalt but I bought Bosch, had the 18v bosch sds before it and had heard a lot of good things about the multitool, I've used the dewalt multitool but I feel as though it lacks in power control due to most multitools having more than 3 speed settings and I prefer the battery position on the bosch. If only bosch decided to make a more ergonomic handle or dewalt decided to make a "laying down" 6 speed multitool
I have quite a few multi tools Bosch DeWalt, yet I keep going back to the Ryobi R18MT-0 18V may not have fancy brushless motors but the swivel head is brilliant for getting angled access plus it has a simple lever to change blades, yes, I know most will say it DIY only. Each to their own. Happy New Year.
Brill review. Since you ask... Orbital sanders. I use a mains driven Draper and I am very heppy with it. I use it a lot so should I go battery,that is the question.
Just about covered every aspect I was looking for when shopping for one of these. Brilliant video and big thanks. The best lesson for me is battery driven tools will spoil batteries if not used for long periods. Up a ladder to cut, size and join two mismatched plastic profiles for a joiner insert to fit separate gutter systems using mains cable not a good idea! Buy a new but rarely used battery multi-tool also not a good idea! Hire a battery multi-tool for the day probably the right idea! And for very occasional DIY housework, go for a mains driven multi-tool because it will still work 3 years later:) Any potential multi-tool purchaser should read this video. I'm assuming each battery machine comes in mains option. Will soon find out.
@@SkillBuilder I'm aiming towards a 240v Fein (anti-vibration) or Bosch so that offers me either a Starlock Plus or (in the case Bosch a Starlock system but what is GOP). Question: If Starlock Plus isn't backwards compatible, why is it that a Starlock Plus cutting tool says it can be used in a Bosch GOP type machine? I recognise some machine can use adaptors but I will take your advice on this matter for a rounded opinion. The other thing I've noticed so far is that Fein colour-coded tools mention multi-material with carbide and tile cutting work but don't diamond cutters which are ofter recommended for cutting tiles. Example: A cut-away tile in-situ where a new sink might encrouch onto existing tile. This begs the question as to whether Fein or Starlock Plus tools are a limiting factor but excluding the oft used price per cutting tool as a for or against argument.
Roger, I am glad you asked what tool next!! Let say that I found this Channel when looking for track saw reviews and you and Robin did the best one I could find and were fun as well. I subscribed. I would love a nice in depth review on routers/trim routers!! When to use each, which is best for what and what models are best in those uses. Thanks mate and Happy New Year!!
Thanks Daniel. We will try and look at those tools in 2021. It is expensive to do these tests, particularly when we buy the tools, but being free of the manufacturers interference is worth it
@@SkillBuilder oh for sure, then you have to round up a bunch of work to justify having 14 routers! JK! No, I'm sure its pricey and hopefully the channel helps that cost.I like the onsite content but these reviews are useful too and probably easier to do these days with covid restrictions.
I love the DeWalt blade change system but I must admit that I have a couple of Multitools. I have the Original Fein with all the extra accessories (corded) and I had bought the Ridgid 12v battery operated tool and also some different heads like right angle drill and the impact head and last but not least the hammer head (for nails). Then realizing that I had many heads I bought a second unit, because at that time my daughter (12 or 13 yrs old) was helping me and always wanted to do what I was doing. Later on I bought the Ridgid corded unit because I had found the hammer unit was very useful in tight spaces like between joists and did not want to loose this useful tool if and when the Ridgid batteries go dead or taken of the market. Now being invested in many m12 and m18 tools, I am thinking of buying the m18 multitool because the arc of oscillation is greater therefore cutting faster.
Ooh I don't know... so long as my corded Bosch batters on, I'll stick with it. Different trades will have different needs, but I get more bang for my buck by plugging in.
If you are storing your cordless tool for any length of time you should take the battery off so the tool doesnt vampire the charge away. Sometimes its a little inconvenient but your batteries will last longer.
Next showdown? You mentioned lasers, chop saws. I'm thinking something a bit more glam, something for the motorheads. What do you think about comparison of white spirit brands? Tesco vs. Lidl vs. No Nonsense. I mean that would have me on the edge of my seat. (Seriously though, really enjoyed this video. I still use the old single speed Dewalt. Upgraded my impact driver to the three-speed one and really makes a difference, I wonder if it's worth upgrading the multitool... I do use it a *lot*)
I have always dabbled in DIY and am always prepared to admit that I try hard but leave much room for improvement. Now I’m retired I do lots more . I would really like to see your opinion on table saws. I bought a Scheppach HS120 and regret it. I now know what I really need in a table saw and the Scheppach isn’t it. A portable table saw, I think, is for me. Any ideas please? I am a compulsive listener 😀
i would like you to review guitar valve amps because you are honest and don’t favour any manufacturer,i started playing again after 20 year,i see a review then try one [disapiontment]
Loved this, thanks Dylan and Roger. Santa brought me the dewalt and it’s fantastic value and runs so well off 2amp batteries (2 included). Great review of these tools. Cordless angle grinders next maybe? 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Good suggestion I have a couple of cordless angle grinders. The Brushless Makita is fantastic vs my Cheapo Parkside.. but my 35 year old Black and Decker Pro that I bought for £15 when Halfords closed thier Buchanan St store in Glasgow, is one of THE best buys i ever made.. its still going strong... while others have been and gone🤣👍
@@G-Cam1 there’s a tiler on Build with A&E (Chanel I’d recommend if you love skill builder) and he’s got the brushless makita and it looks useful. I’ve got quite a few de Walt kit now though so you start to get stuck
first of all Roger,a happy and healthy newyear m8,could you make a video on how and for what all the different utilities are used,it blows my mind the different addons you have for this machine
*The 3 speed is good **MyBest.Tools** trying to keep to a low speed for a long time with just the trigger is hard.The only negative is I keep bumping the on/off switch when changing blades, not dangerous but annoying.*
I've the Fein (corded) add is simply outstanding...
We are replacing the subfloor in our home ruclips.net/user/postUgkx0vyBwjtx9GGOuiqUVT2sRoYqmDoNT_RI and this tool has proved to be invaluable. So many different uses. Cutting away boards in tight places, cutting water pipes to name a few. We love Dewalt tools in general, but have really enjoyed the flexibility and durability of this multitool.
My first multi tool is about 7 years old and cost about £25! It's corded and cordless one would be fantastic but for a cheap guild from Argos it has done me well and always one of them tools that gets me out of a jam and the vibration isn't to bad. Great video
I use the Milwaukee M12 on a daily basis. As an electrician it’s perfect, totally compact and totally ready to rock.
Based on your review I have purchased Fein corded tool.One of the best power tools that I ever had!Outstanding quality and value!Thank you Skillbuilder!
I’ve owned the Fein corded multi tool since 2009 and it’s still working perfectly. They sure make quality tools.
I have been working in the home remodeling industry for 34 years my very first multi-tool was the corded Fein tool. since then I have used many different battery-powered multi-tool snd for me i have to choose the bosch for cutting speed accuracy and battery life.
Definitely Laser levels. thinking of getting one not sure where to start or or whether you can get away with a cheap one.
Yeah, good shout
Had a topcon rhl3 for about 14 years, never missed a beat, never calibrated but tested against other new levels every few years. Had to take the batteries out or they would run themselves dead. Sold it for 1/2 what I paid for it. Now have a lieca 640, box is too big and receiver is slow to pick and sometimes say too low for a few seconds then go over to too high, will be back to topcon when I can get this one shifted to someone. My old topcon was worth every penny
Agreed. I wanted one then heard you need to get them calibrated every so often.
Agreed, I've a budget one and so far can't fault it when compared to a mates premiumum model.
Whatever one you get, make sure its a green light one
18650 and 21700 lithium cells actually like to be stored in the 60-80% charge range and not full charge. They last a LOT longer this way. Great vid
All lithium Ion batteries like to remain at as close to half charge as possible, that leave the internals balanced, and they will last the longest this way, Which is why if you leave a battery for a long time, you want to leave it as you say, with 6-70% chaarge, and then as it drains over time it will spend its time around the 50% mark :)
I decided to purchase a metabo battery kit 6 years ago thinking German quality, how wrong could I have been, the 18 volt mid range drill lasted 3 years, the multi tool is just about had it, the batteries lost charge capacity after 2 years, replaced with Dewalt kit a18 volt lithium ion brushless drill 1 year ago and it is miles better constructed and performs faultlessly.
I have a corded recipricating saw 5 years old and a corded tile saw, also a Bosch multi drill and double bevel mitre saw.
Dewalt and Bosch all the way for me, I do not abuse tools but make them work hard, just my personal thoughts.
Building trade for over 30 years.
Reviews on laser levels would be brilliant
You got your wish! There’s one on the channel now.
@@cabourn81 talking about holding true to your word lol
I like what you said about fain. It has less vibration. As a carpenter I had Dewalt, most cases the battery it’s in the way and you cannot fill your fingers after 1min of use, too much vibration. Had a Bosch, after heavy use the head come out, screws snapped in the body, and bad vibrations.
Hi Rodger i have been using Fein for 23 years have 2 of the old type corded not much goes wrong with them just sometimes have to tighten wire connections inside and replace brushes every 3 years but these tools run most days doing regrouting showers etc in the market now to buy a new one it will be a fein .
I've got the Bosch, 18v, I have several other bosch 18v tools so I had batteries and could buy the bare tool. I like it a lot, the starlock system is great.
I really like that you mentioned the whole corded vs cordless debate for DIYs. I've had this conversation with friends who are weekend warrior DIYers, I tell them to NOT buy the cheap cordless tools, the batteries are the weak link, buy a corded whatever it will last you a lifetime and no batteries to contend with.
Great review.
Cheers from Tokyo
Stu
Thanks for keeping DIY/occasional users in mind and pointing up the downsides of batteries.
Yes, it would be good to know what is the best "cheap" mains cable multi tool for us DIY/occasional users. I'm sure some are complete crap, but I don't really need a battery, high end version.
@@raytrevor1 I don't think multi-tools (and sanders) need a battery like the way miter, circ, and table saws do, but having a corded Dremel multi-tool and a cordless Dewalt, the cordless is so much easier to use.
For the festool and fein Oslo tool company sell a adapter so using the cheaper blades is no problems. Having arthritis in my hands the festool is great and a massive improvement over the dewalt I had.
I used to do the windows for the London Underground Jubilee line trains. The front windscreens are about 50mm thick in a recessed bonded aperture, it was about 2 to 3 hours hard work, I used a Fein corded oscillating tool to cut them out, no matter how hard I pushed it that tool did not give up, it often got so hot I couldn't pick it up unless I had thick leather gloves on but it just did not stop. Fein definitely the King.
Excellent review of a guy who understands his job, has experience and perspective. Thank you. Even though most of my machines are Hitachi, I'm going to buy a Milwaukee along with their new battery operated ratchet. 🙂
Thanks Roger you helped me make my mind up on the new tool, I have moved away from 18v Dewalt tools to 12v Milwaukee tools and I have not been disappointed so another 12v Milwaukee will be welcomed aboard
Good review with lots of detail. To add to Rogers comment to DIY's, I would reccomend corded tools to them. Unless you go through work/charge cycles with the batteries they don't last.
Just bought the Milwaukee 18v Fuel - I am impressed generally with Milwaukee tools so I have a lot of batteries which obviously influenced my decision. The vibration is low compated to others I have used and so is the noise levels. One thing is the angle of reciprocation which is over 4 degrees and thus you can cut qucikly. Don't know how this compares with others but it was mentioned in another review on the Milwaukee I viewed. So for jobs requiring a lot of quick cuts this may be important.
I currently have a corded Stanley fatMax, does everything I need but my current battery platform is the Bosch 18V. Thinking about getting the Bosch, as a gardener I end up doing all sorts of jobs and I don't always have access to power outlets in the field so to speak!
Thank you! You convinced me I don't need a cordless multi tool. Your review is very comprehensive and clear, and thus quite helpful.
As a window glazer I use a multi tool every day and lean all my weight on these for hours. The only ones that last longer theme a month or two are the Fein and the Mikita. That being said I have not used the festool.
Man I used to do that job! Would run that stinking fein (corded, it's been 15 years ago now) til it was hot enough it was hard to hold onto. That gray rubber sealant was a nightmare but never did stop, much less, kill one of those feins!
Do use the multi tool to get putty out?
Many thanks for this informative review Roger. As a DIYer I'm pleased you mentioned the budget brands. Although I have a number of Makita tools I have a Parkside cordless multi tool. It must be worlds away from the pro names but it has impressed me with its capability and run time on a 1.5 Ah battery. One useful and surprisingly effective feature my machine has is through-pad dust extraction for the triangular sanding tool. It's a real cheapo clip on thing and requires a vacuum to be attached. Seems a bit mad hooking a cabled vac onto a cordless tool, but hey ho, it works well 😅. I didn't see you mention such a feature on these review units.
I'd love to see a comparison of the various multi tool cutting blades and attachments. They range in price greatly.
I must say I agree about Fein. used to supply these to my workforce when they first turned up and have kept with them ever since. Try as they might sometimes, my guys could rarely break them. The same applies to drills especially, you do get what you pay for in this instance. We must all cut our cloth according to our budget however and these days one can really get a good selection of tools for very little expense if only occasional use is needed.
I have the Fein 12v multi tool and its about as powerful as the milwaukee, does everything I've ever needed it to!
I've got an older Einhell one, with variable speed control an without the quick change.
Einhell PXC Cordless Multifunctional Tool TC-MG 18 Li-Solo
But, I converted it, by using open blades an attachments, an using a posi screwbolt instead of a socket screw.
Takes seconds to change an replace blades.
Works for me.
I bought the corded DeWalt because of that stored battery issue…as an occasional user, a battery version won’t get enough exercise. However, do note….Do NOT store Li-ion batts on full charge, it will shorten their life cycles (re-charges)…store between half and two thirds charge. Ultimately, and now I have a Dewalt 18v drill, I am torn as to whether I should have just gone full cordless regime. However, when the batt system changes, you might be left with obsolete tools huh!
Cracking video to start off the new year. Would love a job site table saw review series.
Every video you do is much appreciated.
Happy new year guys
M12 compatibles are fantastic and cheap as chips, plus 18v chargers have a slot for the 12v already. My M12V stuff is awesome.
whenever im doing stuff in work ( in a museum) ive started using my fathers m12 back up drill love the things 😂
I’m an electrician and I’m switching over to exclusively M12 for daily use. My company provides 18V tools whenever I need them, so I’m able to run lightweight tools every day.
I’ve got all makita tools but didn’t want to buy their multi-tool - not brushless, not star lock etc.. I’ve gone for the Bosch which I’m very happy with and which offers good value for the performance. Found the vibration data and noise data in the video useful. I run the Bosch on low speed when I can to minimise unnecessary noise and vibration and that helps.
If we’re doing more of these then please do job site table saws. Keep up the good work - found this series very useful.
I've got the Makita and it lasts a fair while on a 5aH, doesn't vibrate your hand making it good for trying to get straight cuts, it is pretty heavy though. Bosch Curve Tec blades are the best(IMO).
Thanks for the video....
Just missing the Parkside... The one everyone has in the toolkit... But never admits to owning👍😂
Lol
Got a 12 and 18v AEG both brilliant and have interchangeable heads so can be multitool jigsaw angle drill and even a hammer
I bought the fein 240v about 20 years ago I'm a tiler so use it to cut bottoms of architrave and it works
Thanks for vid. Very nice to understand, you use a clear and unexcited pronunciation. Even it was not on purpose, nice to take care of non native speakers.
I have the Fein on 240v for 14 years but as soon dewalt bring battery powered multi tool I've never used the main powered one (I have it from 6-7 years and still use it) do the job for sure
BUT .... from one and a half year have Festool as well it is from a different planet when I compare with Dewalt one cutting like crazy and all the attachments in the box staying in the same place every time make a huge difference
Thanks
Erm by your numbers the Bosch is the best value. I had the brushless dewalt with out the speed selection switch liked the blade change, found it not too loud but hated the trigger for detail sanding so sold it, looked at the Makita as I have the battery platform as well but the blade change sucks so went with Bosch ticked all the boxes, find myself going for the Bosch grinder rather than the dewalt 54v because of the switch or the Makita grinder because the Bosch runs harder with better longer lasting batteries but then I use my Makita dtd170 impact driver every day and won’t use anything else. Then I find myself looking at the Milwaukee m12 stuff for working on cars and stop myself, it’s a sickness boys,best
Been waiting for this and didn’t disappoint, thanks Roger
I really appreciate your videos and the experience you have and the care you put into them shines through. When deciding on new tools, it is a considered choice and your reviews really helps inform and reassure so many thanks.
I appreciate that!
Unless I missed it, what you didn't point out is the Fein are multi voltage they will work with any Fein 12v 14v or 18v batteries.
I've owned a Cordless MultiMaster for a few years now & the battery life is phenomenal on the 18v 5ah batteries.
I've used the Dewalt, Bosch, Makita & Milwaukee on site & none come close to the Fein. Mates scoffed at the price I paid for the Fein but then when they use it they are like wow got to admit it's in a different league.
Glad this video is on today. Brilliant review for a brilliant tool. A multitool is genuinely one of those tools that makes you wonder why you didn't get it sooner. Thanks Roger
Glad you enjoyed it Hard to imagine how we managed without them
Like you said Roger, for the pro it's more about what battery platform you're on. I'm on the DeWalt platform because I got a great deal on a drill at college and built my kit from there. I have been tempted by Milwaukee a few times but I don't want two sets of batteries and chargers and replacing everything in one hit is just too expensive. So I'm sticking with DeWalt, for now.
This. Exactly.
Love my old mains fien but I recently purchased a set of metabo 18v tools and been a very happy camper with them the multi tool has seen a lot of work cutting bugle head screws out of concrete forms. I use my tools everyday as I am a bridge builder and farmer as well as doing Abit of wood working for fun.
I bought this Fein a few years ago to replace the corded one I had, as I needed to use it where I couldnt plug in etc. If I lost it tomorrow I`d buy another one the next day. Great review !
Fien were the originators of the multitool.. great piece of kit
Thank you, this helps as I am upgrading my multi tool. I have facts to help me decide
Fein is my chosen brand . The older I get - the more of a tool snob I become.
Some lucky dog is going to inherit my collection one of these days ; if my Wife doesn't force a sale in the meantime
Milwaukee 12v blew me away lads had the old version of the dewalt but it gave up on me time for a upgraded decided to take a stab at the Milwaukee completely on the dewalt platform but took a plunge on this absolute animal of a machine literally takes using a multitool to a new height no weight or size problems here and power is on point with anything I've used on any 18v platform here's to the milwaukee 👍
Perfect video again . ..looks like the DeWalt for me then thanks Rog ..in about 4 weeks I will need a table saw 👍. Off to Screwfix now . Have a great weekend.
Chopsaw next please!! Cordless in particular.
Thanks Rog. Keep up the good work and Happy New Year to you and yours.
Nathan (Builder in Newcastle)
Agree. Chopsaw could do. Also if at all possible, some DIY level mitre saws would be nice to be reviewed by you. I have a 18v Ryobi compact sliding mitre saw and it is brilhante for the price you pay when you compare with big brands.
Laser levels please! Thank you Skill Builder it was a great series, and just bought my Milwaukee Multitool :)
I chose dewalt, and I’m very happy with it 4 years later
Anti vibration gloves helps for prolonged use
Fein make superb powertools & have done so for decades... 😉
Good comparison. Thumbs up. I‘d love to see jigsaws next.
That would be a good one yeah!!!!!
I use a Ridgid Jobmax which has interchangeable heads like a jigsaw, a right angle drill, a sheet metal nibbler, a sander & an oscillator. It is surprisingly good. Uses the standard batteries, oscillator has a great tool change...best of all it is cheap!
Makita has just released their DTM52Z in japan, it uses starlock max, has a more powerful brushless motor and has much lower vibration than the previous model. It is a shame it wasn't available when you did this review as i'd love to see how it compares to the fein. Maybe you could do a fein vs makita rematch video using the upcoming model?
Yeah please
Blade change on the Makita is still a deal breaker…
Everybody says Fein invented it, but I am not so sure. I recall a BBC Tomorrow's World back in the 1960s with Raymond Baxter when he looked at a new surgical tool. It was what we know as the DIY multitool except that it used a sharp blade, not a serrated saw-type blade, and it vibrated a minuscule distance very, very fast. The purpose was to cut bones during surgery and when it bumped into muscle it simply vibrated the muscle without cutting it. OK, I expect that it the surgeon pressed really hard for a 'long' time then the muscle would be damaged, but that wasn't the object, which was to prevent damage during accidental encounters. So was the Fein made and sold in the mid 1960's? Incidentally, I have a Bosch corded tool and I am monumentally chuffed with it, in fact I reckon that I would be thus chuffed at any of them; it has made so many jobs such a breeze, a brilliant tool (and it does everything that our builder's Fein does at a fraction of the cost).
They also used them back then to cut casts off when a broken bone was finally healed. I know because that’s what they used on me in 1970.
Would love to see framing nailers! Compere battery vs gas vs pneumatic ones.
Fein all day long. me and my colleagues had to move away from the Dewalt as too much vibration was giving us White Finger.
Battered one of the DeWalt ones for 3 years.had multiple soakings outside in rain,dropped 3 lifts,drainage, drywall,absolutely unbreakable
Good vid. Comprehensive, straight to the point, and covers all the considerations.
I have a dewalt setup, the quick change is superior and is a bigger plus than millwauke's better grip profile. Just get the multitool that matches your setup, they all do the job.
I own the Bosch and have also used the Makita. Both work well but I much prefer the Bosch. The battery orientation on the Makita is a bit awkward and I feel the Bosch runs a little bit smoother (very subjective!).
The blade changing mechanism on the Bosch is also much better. The Bosch is cheap compared to the Festool but you really get your money's worth I think.
I don't find that the Starlock blades are too expensive. I use Bosch blades currently and they hold up well to abuse. I only buy them in bulk or on sale, that way the price comes down. I use tools professionally so I realize that approach not be viable for home gamers.
Great video! Fein's are incredible. I have 2 old style corded models. I don't care for the Starlock due to blade expense and will not buy. They need to bring back a model that takes universal blades and call it the "Fein Classic". Thanks again,
I thought that was the rigid.....
not a good sign but so far they been working awesome
My Fein one died recently after many many years of hard work. Going for the DeWalt next
so is festool the only one that has a dust collection attachment you can buy?
p.p.s. despite my last very sarcastic comment, I do actually think a very un-sexy but quite useful showdown in the future might be a comparison of high end dust masks, lots of stuff to cover like the difference between P and N ratings, how to use properly, built-in vs replaceable filters, comfort for long periods etc. Not really a brand comparison but I would certainly be very interested. We need to strip off some old lead paint from railings for example, and it's hard working out what we actually need. (Probably way too un-sexy for a Skill Builder video though I suppose?)
Ikz
Thanks Roger for another great review. Always clear information and so professional and helpful.
I run Dewalt but I bought Bosch, had the 18v bosch sds before it and had heard a lot of good things about the multitool, I've used the dewalt multitool but I feel as though it lacks in power control due to most multitools having more than 3 speed settings and I prefer the battery position on the bosch. If only bosch decided to make a more ergonomic handle or dewalt decided to make a "laying down" 6 speed multitool
I have quite a few multi tools Bosch DeWalt, yet I keep going back to the Ryobi R18MT-0 18V may not have fancy brushless motors but the swivel head is brilliant for getting angled access plus it has a simple lever to change blades, yes, I know most will say it DIY only. Each to their own. Happy New Year.
Brill review. Since you ask... Orbital sanders. I use a mains driven Draper and I am very heppy with it. I use it a lot so should I go battery,that is the question.
Siroflex mighty grip & grab adhesive is the best you can get, thick bead as nozzle is about 1cm already
Great review,which one is best for sanding..less vibration,quiet etc
No ridgid? In a milwaukee/ makita guy through and through but I will admit that ridgid makes a very good cordless multi tool
Just about covered every aspect I was looking for when shopping for one of these. Brilliant video and big thanks. The best lesson for me is battery driven tools will spoil batteries if not used for long periods. Up a ladder to cut, size and join two mismatched plastic profiles for a joiner insert to fit separate gutter systems using mains cable not a good idea! Buy a new but rarely used battery multi-tool also not a good idea! Hire a battery multi-tool for the day probably the right idea! And for very occasional DIY housework, go for a mains driven multi-tool because it will still work 3 years later:) Any potential multi-tool purchaser should read this video. I'm assuming each battery machine comes in mains option. Will soon find out.
Yes Robin you can get nearly every one of those tools in a 240 volt version. I don't think Milwaukee has one.
@@SkillBuilder I'm aiming towards a 240v Fein (anti-vibration) or Bosch so that offers me either a Starlock Plus or (in the case Bosch a Starlock system but what is GOP). Question: If Starlock Plus isn't backwards compatible, why is it that a Starlock Plus cutting tool says it can be used in a Bosch GOP type machine? I recognise some machine can use adaptors but I will take your advice on this matter for a rounded opinion. The other thing I've noticed so far is that Fein colour-coded tools mention multi-material with carbide and tile cutting work but don't diamond cutters which are ofter recommended for cutting tiles. Example: A cut-away tile in-situ where a new sink might encrouch onto existing tile. This begs the question as to whether Fein or Starlock Plus tools are a limiting factor but excluding the oft used price per cutting tool as a for or against argument.
Roger, I am glad you asked what tool next!! Let say that I found this Channel when looking for track saw reviews and you and Robin did the best one I could find and were fun as well. I subscribed. I would love a nice in depth review on routers/trim routers!! When to use each, which is best for what and what models are best in those uses.
Thanks mate and Happy New Year!!
Thanks Daniel. We will try and look at those tools in 2021. It is expensive to do these tests, particularly when we buy the tools, but being free of the manufacturers interference is worth it
@@SkillBuilder oh for sure, then you have to round up a bunch of work to justify having 14 routers! JK! No, I'm sure its pricey and hopefully the channel helps that cost.I like the onsite content but these reviews are useful too and probably easier to do these days with covid restrictions.
I love the DeWalt blade change system but I must admit that I have a couple of Multitools. I have the Original Fein with all the extra accessories (corded) and I had bought the Ridgid 12v battery operated tool and also some different heads like right angle drill and the impact head and last but not least the hammer head (for nails). Then realizing that I had many heads I bought a second unit, because at that time my daughter (12 or 13 yrs old) was helping me and always wanted to do what I was doing. Later on I bought the Ridgid corded unit because I had found the hammer unit was very useful in tight spaces like between joists and did not want to loose this useful tool if and when the Ridgid batteries go dead or taken of the market. Now being invested in many m12 and m18 tools, I am thinking of buying the m18 multitool because the arc of oscillation is greater therefore cutting faster.
Great work thanks, I like how your real world practical hands on experience comes through in your presentation.
I am going for Dewalt thanks for such a comprehensive review.
Fein the original and best .
Fein made it for Festool.
Had bosch twice both burned out . Used dewalt too much vibration . Makita seems solid lasted years now . Ryobi do one which the head can pivot .
If your looking for a great sanding multi tool the Metabo HPT/Hikoki really shines as a triangle sandereven though it's average as a multi cutter
Ooh I don't know... so long as my corded Bosch batters on, I'll stick with it. Different trades will have different needs, but I get more bang for my buck by plugging in.
What about if you're working on a site not connected to power.
@@manganiphiri4331 Ha ha, those were the days. That's building St Paul's you're thinking of. I Bought a genny 10 years ago...never needed it yet.
You forgat al the festool assoraires That make the machine grate en better than the rest
Very good. I'd like to see cartridge actuated nailers.
If you are storing your cordless tool for any length of time you should take the battery off so the tool doesnt vampire the charge away. Sometimes its a little inconvenient but your batteries will last longer.
Good and accurate information. Dewalt multi tool with Diablo blades and cut drywall like butter
Next showdown? You mentioned lasers, chop saws. I'm thinking something a bit more glam, something for the motorheads. What do you think about comparison of white spirit brands? Tesco vs. Lidl vs. No Nonsense. I mean that would have me on the edge of my seat. (Seriously though, really enjoyed this video. I still use the old single speed Dewalt. Upgraded my impact driver to the three-speed one and really makes a difference, I wonder if it's worth upgrading the multitool... I do use it a *lot*)
worth it. variable speed trigger
@@wittlebean1259 My cordless dewalt multitool already has variable speed trigger, does that mean I have the upgraded one already?
Which one of these share the same battery 🔋??
I have a corded dewalt and it’s great. I’d like to get the m12 fuel version for its portability though.
Circular saw definitely there is some tough competition out there now
I have always dabbled in DIY and am always prepared to admit that I try hard but leave much room for improvement. Now I’m retired I do lots more . I would really like to see your opinion on table saws. I bought a Scheppach HS120 and regret it. I now know what I really need in a table saw and the Scheppach isn’t it. A portable table saw, I think, is for me. Any ideas please? I am a compulsive listener 😀
i would like you to review guitar valve amps because you are honest and don’t favour any manufacturer,i started playing again after 20 year,i see a review then try one [disapiontment]
I've been waiting for this video for ages hehe happy new year
Vert well explained for a novice like myself! and saved me a lot of time having to search for other reviews, excellent!
Glad it was helpful!
Loved this, thanks Dylan and Roger. Santa brought me the dewalt and it’s fantastic value and runs so well off 2amp batteries (2 included). Great review of these tools. Cordless angle grinders next maybe? 👌🏼🏴👍🏼
Good suggestion
I have a couple of cordless angle grinders. The Brushless Makita is fantastic vs my Cheapo Parkside.. but my 35 year old Black and Decker Pro that I bought for £15 when Halfords closed thier Buchanan St store in Glasgow, is one of THE best buys i ever made.. its still going strong... while others have been and gone🤣👍
@@G-Cam1 there’s a tiler on Build with A&E (Chanel I’d recommend if you love skill builder) and he’s got the brushless makita and it looks useful. I’ve got quite a few de Walt kit now though so you start to get stuck
first of all Roger,a happy and healthy newyear m8,could you make a video on how and for what all the different utilities are used,it blows my mind the different addons you have for this machine