Heavy Metal and Classical: Do They Work Together?
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We talk about Heavy Metal, and how it works with Classical, focusing on Metallica, their Black Album, their S&M album with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra and Michael Kamen, and then Connor Gallagher, Shostakovich, and even Stravinsky and his Rite of Spring.
For the Kiss Thumbnail - I was drawing a completely blank, so I asked the public for Thumbnail ideas on my RUclips Community Page - this seemed like the funniest and most eye-drawing idea at the time. However I'm not very pleased with it. If any of you can think of a better idea for an eye-catching thumbnail with Classical/Metal crossover, then let me know! I love making videos, but sometimes really struggle with thumbnails, and thumbnail design.
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An image of Yngwie Malmsteem might be more, "appropriate," but honestly Paul Stanley as the Starchild is fine.
Edit: Meatloaf (Bat Out of Hell) would also be good.
there is litteraly a Crossover between Classical and Metal and it's called symphonic Metal, maybe something like that
Perhaps Blind Guardian ... Honestly their recent Twilight Symphony is a perfect blend to my ears. Not an instrumental blend but rather it translates the character, mannerisms, and vocabulary into an orchestral setting.
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Classical Music is Metal before Electricity
Metal is Classical Music but Edgy
@@rachelmoody1520 + Zo You're both correct.
Edgy? Nah, I’d say it’s more honest than edgy
Absolutely
@@skittlesphinninix8957 How do you figure? Yes, this is an honest question and not me being sarcastic.
I can't believe you talked about metal in this video and had kiss in the thumbnail
Marcello Madrazo what genre is Kiss? Is it rock?
@@draketurcotte4760 at the very least it could be considered glam rock up unti heavy rock but I don't see the comparison
They can be considered glam metal from most of the 80’s to early 90’s
See my pinned comment! Haha. Happy to edit it if anyone can come up with a better idea for an eye-catching thumbnail, with a relatively simple design, not to difficult to put together. I sometimes struggle with thumbnail design but it's an unfortunate necessity when doing RUclips
They were considered Heavy Metal in the 70's
Brah this dude gonna flip out when he discovers Malmsteen and Neo-Classical metal lol.
Yeah and bands like Rhapsody of Fire :D
Symphony X.
I hate to say it, but Dream Theater...
Leddy Gee I see why you hate to say it Fellow Rush fan.
Leddy Gee Why? Dream Theater is a fantastic band
>Heavy Metal and Classical: Do They Work Together?
*progressive rock* : Am I a joke to you?
Progressive Metal: Am I a joke joke to you?
Post-rock: Am I a joke to you? Cause I am influenced by minimalism and so on...
Symphonic metal :D
@@kosherkhan7091 Yeah boi.
Ritchie Blackmore: Absolutely
My mom: huge Beethoven fan
Daughter: heavy metal fan
Yes, it runs in the family.
Disclaimer to metal elitists:
KISS was considered heavy metal, in the 70s (so was Led Zeppelin -- matter of fact the person who coined the term heavy metal was referring to Led Zep, but I digress). Later on as the genre evolved, they would be re-classified as hard rock...
They were at times considered Metal but they are mostly a Hard rock/Glam Rock band.
@@casualcadaver true! Forgot about glam rock as a genre! Was never a fan, except for Kiss and RNR by Gary Glitter.
KISS simply evolved with the times - they did hard rock albums that at least straddled the border with heavy metal, and they also dabbled in disco... musicians and music fans really weren't so tied up with genres back then, and fads and fashions came and went back then in much the same way they do today, with bands developing new ideas or jumping on new bandwagons and adopting new ideas and sounds, sometimes successfully, sometimes less so. And anyway, i think that some people forget that heavy metal IS hard rock, and essentially carries on a rock tradition that can be traced back through blues rock, shock rock, psychedelic rock, rockabilly, and so on into the earlier roots of rock's harder/darker side in the blues, country/western, folk, and so on... it's a history full of grey areas and few clear, solid borders between subgenres.
By the time "heavy metal" was introduced to describe the harder side of hard rock, it really wasn't intended as a way to say "these guys aren't rock, and they aren't even hard rock, it's something totally different" - it was simply a way of saying "this stuff's harder, darker, louder, and more aggressive than usual for rock" - and, if we're honest, bands like early KISS, Led Zeppelin, Steppenwulf, the Blue Oyster Cult, Rush, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, and so on are still pretty heavy compared to almost anything being considered mainstream popular music today (I doubt there are any mainstream pop music fans who could even name new hard rock or heavy metal band today, beyond maybe... what? Greta Van Fleet or Imagine Dragons or something? I just took a glance at the US top-40 chart for the first time since the '80s, and I don't recognize ANYTHING on there, and I'd venture to say that pretty much anything KISS did in their metal years - and maybe even in their disco years - will sound heavier than anything on that chart!)
Really, extreme metal skewed the standards a bit starting in the mid '80s, about the same time that critics really started digging up the whole "rock is dead" thing and sticking to it, except for whenever alternative, grunge, pop-punk, or whatever kept popping up to shut them up... guitar-driven rock isn't dead, they've simply kept giving it different names, and rock is alive as it's ever been in the form of metal and modern country music (if anything, it's traditional country/western that died by the 1990s, as the mainstream blue-collar white rock audience that didn't join the punk or metal audiences, or divert off into R&B/hip-hop/rap territory, migrated largely to country music, which by the '90s up to today has had more in common with '70s and '80s light/pop than it does with traditional country/western....)
So, sure, why not? I see no reason not to use KISS in a thumbnail for a video about metal music - KISS are pretty iconic and easy for non-metalheads to recognize at a glance, more so than just about anyone in extreme metal....
They aren't even hard rock lol they're incredibly tame
I would also add deep purple and of course the when heavy metal really became heavy metal the grandfather of heavy metal Black Sabbath
Black sabbath made heavy metal
A video entitled Heavy Metal that has KISS in the thumbnail.... That's gonna trigger a lot of people! That's some serious clickbait right there! LOL
David Quintanilla
KISS is basically the clickbait of metal.
I'm not well versed in the genre, but is there anything wrong or some controversy surrounding KISS?
@@hijonathan not at all. It's just that they've never been classified as a heavy Metal band. They were hard rock for the time (mid to late 70's) but to call them a heavy metal band? No. I'm just poking fun at the video creator for using their picture even though they're not actually spoken of in the video. All in good fun 😜
@@TruckDrivinGamer - Thank you, I didn't know that. David Bowie's Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders from Mars; AC/DC live album in Buenos Aires; and few Metallica singles are pretty much everything I know about Rock'n'roll. xD
@@hijonathan to use Rock'n'Roll as a catchall term like that is seriously oldschool in itself ;)
Orchestral Metal is an entire genre, of course the two go well together. Hope For The Dying, Ne Obliviscaris and Epica come to mind immediately.
Ne Obliviscaris goes so hard. Can't wait for them to eventually release a new album
Whenever I hear the 4th movement of the Shostakovitch String Quartet, I always hear the Mii Channel theme.
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@@patrickpan4437 EXACTLY THIS
In capitalist America, you make Miis on Wiis.
In Soviet Russia, we make Wiis on Wiis.
this may seem odd but thanks for spelling his name so i can look him up
Holy hell, it is sounds like it
I mean symphonic metal has been a subgenre for ages. My favourite one actually....
Mine too
"Symphonic Metal" and "Classical music" are still two very different worlds.
Most Symphonic Metal bands still uses chorus/verse/chorus/verse structures songs that last 5-6 minutes and you usually have one or two 10-12 minutes songs, considered a long musical journey, per album.
By classical standards 10-12 minutes is rather on the short side and classical composers have been much more creative with their song structures. The chorus/verse/chorus/verse structure does resemble some stuff by Mozart and Haydn but most composers after (Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann, Lizst, Chopin, Wagner, Bruckner, Mahler, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Franck, Debussy, Ravel) have gone far beyond.
And if we get into the complexity of chords, usually 10 bars into a Bach or Wagner piece and you've already had more harmonic depth than a full 70 minutes Nightwish, Epica album.
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Symphony X!
Pascal G.-Berardi but that's because symph metal is done by metal musicians trying to appeal to a metal audience. If there were a subgenre of neo-classical music that turns the formula around and it were called "metal symphony" (and maybe that does exist), neoclassical musicians trying to introduce metal to neoclassical fans, they'd probably take classical structures and add metal features.
"Can Classical Work with Metal?"
Tuomas Holopainen of Nightwish: Yes.
Yes!!!!
The Metal Mozart of our time.
Can they work together? Short answer: yes! long angswer: bloody hell, of course! :)
You might also want to check out Symphony X. Michael Romeo adopted lots of parts from classical pieces into the music.
Also Rhapsody of Fire, Ancient Bards, and Yngwie Malmsteen.
This question made me laugh so hard, especially because Metallica as example.
Like pop music can work with classical aswell, but the level require to compose one or the other is a complete other story. Classical music is all about harmony and movement, tension and release, ... The words might not be correct because I'm not a native english speaker, but heavy metal is a popular style of music, like folk music and many other style, classical and Jazz are both Savant music. Like something I see a lot in heavy metal music is the lack of thirds (which is the most important interval because it gives it's color to a chord), or the miss use of fifth or eight. It doesn't mean it is a bad music, I enjoy it, but I see a lot of people thinking that heavy metal music is the successor or classical music, while it has as many things in common with classical music as current pop or electronic music. Anyway this is just an overanalysis of the subject. ^^
Check out Dark Lunacy of you like stringed quartets.
@@RmDIrSudoSu Black Metal and, more specifically, Atmospheric Black Metal are almost all based on natural minor scales and diatonic thirds.
This already exists. It's called Symphonic Metal
Neoclassical Metal: Am I joke to you?
symphonic is horse shit metal
@@AyedRUclips said, the thrash fan...
@@adecentdelinquent8986 i refuse to be valued by only 1 genre of musics that i consume.
@@AyedRUclips and thus you became valued by only 1 aspect of your personality.... the smartass metal fan
I would recommend the “Angels Cry” album by the Brazilian band Angra. The singer at the time was an actual maestro and wanted to fuse metal and classical, and I believe this album is a great example.
Não importa onde, não importa quando, sempre haverá um br nos comentários
Thanks for the recommendation my Brazilian Metal brother \m/
Loved it❤
YES
The Sad but True riff is so heavy that it made me annoyed you cut it off lol
It's very easy to get flagged for copyright on RUclips. A shame when my channel really needs musical examples to make it work
Ayyy 69th like haha
@@InsidetheScore agreed. RUclips flagship algorithm is rubbish.
Been saying this myself for years, but it was hard to explain why... until now.
For these reasons, Symphonic Metal (e.g. Epica or Nightwish) is currently my favorite subgenre: it just works.
Vivaldi, summer is probably the most "metal" song I know
Except it's not a song, it's a PIECE
@@vetaniellecalya1662 Yes, I know, I said song because we're talling about metal songs
Jacopo Mazzei
Non, écoutez donc la folia de Vivaldi , où de Corelli d’ailleurs
For me it's def Stravinsky's Rites of spring.
Gilbert Valdez I mean that opened the worlds first mosh pit (they called it a riot at the time 😂)
*Symphonic metal enters chat (Epica, Dimmu Borgir, Fleshgod Apocalypse...)
NIGHTWISH
Therion
and also proto symphonic metal like X japan - Art of Life and Rose of Pain...Killer stuff man
Apocalyptica
Rhapsody of Fire
I've never heard of Shostakovich or his music but as soon as you played a clip of the original work, I immediately said, "that sounds like panic." Then you mentioned Shostakovich lived under the terror of Soviet rule; it all makes sense now.
He actually wrote AND PERFORMED an entire symphony during the Siege of Leningrad, it's one of the true legends of Soviet and WW2 (and music) history
A lot of what he said is based on speculation
Do metal and classical work together??
*Nightwish has entered the chat*
Actually that’s more, can opera and metal work together.
yngwie malmsteen, now that’s classical metal
@@sheldonmatthews4807 listen to the deep tracks
"Winds" from Norway is the best Neo classical I have ever heard.
Galneryus
@@khrimul2757 FINALLY somebody mentions them!
Inside the Score: Heavy Metal and Classical: Do They Work Together?
Me: Why yes they do, has this man never heard of ...
Inside the Score: **Holds up S&M**
Me: Aha! I see you are a man of culture as well.
Seriously, I would like to introduce you to the Icelandic metal band "Skálmöld" & the Iceland Symphony Orchestra: ruclips.net/video/nwoRmHQU4n8/видео.html
You can watch the whole concert here on RUclips. If you like it, please support the artists and buy their album.
Seen that concert at least 30 times... they are perfect
TLDR: intense emotions can be expressed through music. Regardless of genre.
I know right?
What a pointless video.
Metal = classical
because emotions
Vivaldi's winter is the classical ancestor of metal
There's an entire genre, and probably even subgenres, of music based on the answer to this question being yes.
Most people already know they go together because of video games and/or bands like Alestorm, Nightwish, even Evanescence and Metallica.
Lol how about Symphony X, Rhapsody (of fire), Dark Moor, Dimmu Borgir, Warman, TSO, Epica, Wintersun, or Therion
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I was obviously not trying to make a long list.
Dont forget november rain
Blind Guardian too, altough it's symphonic power metal I guess...
I honestly still think of video games first. Final Fantasy, Mega Man, etc.
there are genres of music that specifically mix orchestra with heavy riffs, or create operatic sounds, not to mention that metal had roots in calssical music from the start, so of course they mix very well
fleshgod apocalypse gives me some serious shostakovich vibes
for me, Be'Lakor gives me the same shivers and shortness of breath as Tchaikovsky's symphony 6.
i mean, FUCK dude, An Ember's Arc and Symphony 6 are on the same level of powerful
I just love the start of Embodied Deception! And the rest of it too, but it takes real skill to shred on a grand piano!
Myself, not being a fan of either Metal or Classical, I need to thank you for introducing me to the S&M concert!! It's Amazing!! I can't even believe that was done 20 years ago!!
Check out S&M² as well bro
Check out Rage's Lingua Mortis. IMO a far better album than S&M.
Deep Purple combine classic music whit rock in 1969.
S&M was good, but for a much better example of how metal and classical work together, check out the Retrospect show by symphonic metal band Epica. Epica's songs are written to fit with orchestra. In this show, they perform with a 30 piece choir and 70 piece orchestra. In addition to their own songs, they play metal versions of the "presto" section from Vivaldi's Four Seasons and "The Imperial March" from Star Wars. It's on RUclips here: ruclips.net/video/hEi6ANdCcxI/видео.html
Classical music definitely needs more love nowadays. It melds so good with most metal genres, and gives it a whole new power. And yet, metal is nothing but a subdivision of classical music !
Metal and classical both let the melody mature throughout the song and this is why metal will live forever! ❤
...and that's why we now have Symphonic Metal. And it's great.
When the Black album was released in 1991, the heavy metal world changed forever. This album opened up doors that metalheads could only dream about! Back in the 70's and 80's, radio only played "safe" and melodic rock music. It was rare to hear a heavy metal song. Because the Black album appealed to a much wider audience, it opened a door that caused a permanent ripple effect which allowed radio stations to gradually play heavier and heavier music. It was awesome! Suddenly, we were hearing other metal bands and songs that normally would never get air play. There's no denying the significance it brought to metal and its fans.
King Crimson and Emerson Lake and Palmer were mixing rock and classical 50 years ago. The two genres definitely belong together.
As a classically trained violinist turned crossover performer/composer, this truly puts a smile on my face.
Thanks for making this! Classical music is metal, and metal music is classical. That's what our dream is as crossover artists, for people to see that!
Q: Can metal and classical go together?
A: Caution! Wet Floor!
And by Floor you mean Floor Jansen, right?
@@AlexanderWeixelbaumer
The one and only!
Floorgasim
Yes.
Proof: Necrophagist.
Some of the greatest guitar solos from them, classically influenced.
Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement is straight up heavy metal before electricity.
Exmortus - Moonlight Sonata Act 3
so is Chopin's Fantasie Impromptu
Mars is one of the most metal non-metal songs ever made.
@@215dagby Yes because it's Black Sabbaths - Black Sabbath
lobezno223 Chopin is The musical god
I've always felt that metal and classical are spiritually related. Ever since I was a young kid I had an affinity for metal and movie/videogame soundtracks. The expressive melodies shine in both metal and classical, and there is also a degree of "epicness" in both genre's. The song "Orion" that you mentioned is a great example of metal sounding like classical music.
Shostakovich composed with an emphasis on rythm, sometimes if not always more than melody. In that he worked with a lot of syncopation. This and the emphasis on the rhythmic development is also found in some of the most inventive heavy metal. This is why I love both
Can Classical and Heavy Metal work together? Absolutely. Proof: Haggard, SepticFlesh, Malmsteen's Concerto Suite,..
Seriously, listen to Haggard's "Eppur si Muove", you'll be blown away.
Exactly, that album is probably the best example of symphonic metal!
Yes that one is awesome, Odious' second album ( The Egyptian symphonic death metal band) is also nice.
I own that shit on vinyl. Of a might divine is a hell of a piece of music.
I was going to mention Haggard, but you beat me to it!
Huh, I always thought metal was just the natural evolution of classical music.
it is
There's epic music too...
Yeah, but no!! It's a completely different thing. Metal is most of the time as repetitive as pop songs (I'm not saying is bad) but classical music even though it has it's repetitiveness it not even close from what it happens with the modern music.
Well it kind of is
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If Shostakovich is metal, then Holst's Jupiter is classic rock...
What about Mars the Bringer of War?
@@mitsvanmitsvanio6106 Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath?
Stravinsky being Extreme Metal lol
@@pratyushbzr Xenakis being whatever comes after that
@@pratyushbzr Stravinsky would be a bit more like black metal
Here's another interesting piece of trivia:
Arguably the first metal album would be the Black Sabbath debut album, and here is something about the title track:
"The riff was created when bassist Geezer Butler began playing a fragment of "Mars" from Gustav Holst's The Planets suite. Inspired, guitarist Tony Iommi returned the next day with the famously dark tritone."
So from the very beginning metal drew from classical (as well as blues/hard rock of course).
Yet more trivia:
The first use of the term "heavy metal" was in the song "Born to be Wild" by Steppennwolf. 1969
I like smoke and lightning
Heavy metal thunder
Power metal in particular works excellently with classical orchestra. Symphonic power metal is a strong standalone genre. Turisas, Gloryhammer and some Orden Ogan and Powerwolf songs fit into this category
That metal rendition of string quartet no. 8 is EPIC.
I've always listened to both, and I was so glad when symphonic and operatic metal really started to become a thing.
Also, any Nightwish album. Start with Ghost Love Score live at Wacken.
Exactly, then one can move on to The Poet & The Pendulum and Tuomas' latest masterpiece The Greatest Show on Earth.
Tuomas is one of the greatest modern composers
Or phantom of the Opera
Thank you for widening my music scope again, I never thought that I would fall in love with this classical "boring"music!!!
Nightwish's albums like Dark Passion Play and Imaginareum had an orchestra backing the band. They were fantastic
Inside the Score: "Heavy metal has something to say."
Metallica: "I KILLED YOUR BABY TODAYEEEE-AH"
Jaybird Wedbetter perfect!
Good luck having many people understands it xD
Doesn’t matter much to me
That´s a Misfits cover though.
@@evillano Actually ... the Misfits covered that song. It was originally a Louis Armstring song.
That explains why they're both my favourite genres
Same
Have you listened to fight fire with fire? The song would blow your mind.
I once read about a study that examined the average characteristics of people listening to different genres of music (education, demographics, etc.) and they found out that the groups listening to classical music and metal are essentially the same, except the one listening to metal was younger. So fascinating!
I've always said that if J S Bach were alive today... He'd be lead guitarist/song writer in a Metal band.
and Mozart? He would be shredding those strings aggresively
I actually think he'd simply be a contemporary classical composer, likely with Baroque-influenced style, though I do believe he'd like metal quite a bit. All of this depends on whether he'd simply be a man born now or if we actually brought him back from the dead, with his memories from the 1700s still intact.
All them could be heavily fuxing with shoegaze imo
If he was alive today he would be Jari Maenpa
Tchaikovsky would probably do some slipknot, nu metal experimental thing. The guy usually made some terrific heavy, agressive music in ways people didn't expected lol. And other times really beautiful apotheosis.
I don't think there has ever been any doubt that metal and classical music are related. I have personally loved both since I was very young.
YT is literally recommending me a Therion song on the right of this video lol. Symphonic metal has existed since the 90s, listen to it and be happy :D
Actually since the late sixtees/early seventies,- back then it was just called hard rock: Deep Puple, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Scorpions etc.
@@ulfdanielsen6009 Those aren't symphonic metal bands. lmao
1969 Deep Purple: Concerto for group and orchestra.
1969 Deep Purple (eponymous album): Song "April"
1971 Uriah Heep (Salisbury album): Song "Salisbury"
Yes, Nightwish, case closed
I was going through the comments hoping someone would bring up NIGHTWISH. 🤘
@@Nemo66577 or just the entire track. And Song Of Myself, Poet and the Pendulum, etc.
Me:
Seeing title - "Heavy Metal and Classical: Do They Work Together?"
Also me:
Immediatly thinking this: Have you heard the story of Yngwie Malmsteen, the wise?
"I thought not. It's not a story the donuts would tell you."
Good one
Best guitar player for subject
thought the same lmao
Please, listen to Symphony X and Jason Becker. Best examples of the relation between Metal and Classical music.
Why? Which "classical elements" do you find among Symphony X or Becker? Excluding, of course, clichés and borrowed Paganini stuff without the right lyricism.
@@kenhimurabr please, for giving a few examples, listen "The Odyssey" from Symphony X, and "Air" , "Higher" and "Fantasy weaver" or "Once Upon a Melody" from Jason Becker.
Can metal and classical music go together , that's like asking does God go with the Bible ...
Well... Most peoples definition of the abrahamic god is not supported by the bible nor found within it
yes, symphonic metal
If god does exists I really hope he's not like the Biblical god.
So, no?
It's not a question. It's a statement. Many classical musicians, and their fans, have a love of of training in classical music.
Discovering progressive rock made me also discover the beauty of classical music.
Metallica and Beethoven are my favorite! If you didn’t know the late bassist, Cliff Burton, was classically trained. You can hear his influence in mostly the Ride The Lightning album and Master Of Puppets. Can you do a breakdown of “Orion”? It’s a metal of symphony.
Heavy metal and classical: do they work together?
Ritchie Blackmore: Allow me to introduce myself...
EDIT: Before you tell me that prog metal is a thing, Ritchie Blackmore’s second band Rainbow was the first band to combine heavy metal with classical sounds, thus paving the way for prog metal.
Bach already made metal solos and music. Listen to his massive organ works. Pure metal
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When I listened to the first few seconds of nightwish 's song 'wanderlust' I immediately knew that metal and classical music go hand in hand. Or basically any rhapsody (in fire) album. Or apocalyptica, which did this before s&m, or any other symphonic metal band? You're kinda late to the show here ;)
And Black Diamond from Stratovarius. But relation with symphonic metal is quite obvious.
You may see the relation in many other metal subgenres, not just symphonic. Many Iron Maiden Songs have a clear classical influence. Phantom of the Opera is a clear example.
To be fair, everything sounds great with metal arrangements: Classical, pop, jazz, polka, tango, 8 bit music, even kids music, there are tons of videos of the least metal piece of music you can imagine arranged for metal band and it will sound great.
Death metal : we've been combining classical with metal forever
Excellent analysis. What you probably don't realize yet is that the connection between metal and 20th Century classical isn't at all merely a similarity of tone and expression Metal is indeed a child of classical as much as it is rock. I have been searching for years for evidence of that connection, which I intuited back in the 70s. I kept bringing the two sides closer and closer. But I still needed to find the smoking gun, the actual evidence. I finally found it. And I've never seen any other research that approaches the case like this. I'll be writing about it and making a video about it in the first quarter of this year. I'll let you know when it's available. I think it'll open up lot's of musical doors for you. Thanks for this one though. You reminded me to get on the ball. Thanks.
Nightwish: “hold my beer.”
Theo Pinson Especially the new album. 😂😂
I discovered them like last week, they are truely epic
I love nightwish they do have a very classical feel in the the imaginerium album
Therion is the best band I can think of when it comes to metal and classic fusing together. You get this wonderful interplay between driving guitar riffs and Symphonic elements with this huge wall of voices propelling the songs.
Particularly their late 90's albums like Vovin, Deggial, Secret of The Runes etc. Have some absolutely sublime moments. "Schwarzalbenheim" for example has this basoon note that opens it low and drawn out and menacing, sounds like the world is coming to an end. Then you get this really delicate string and wind section and bam guitars hit and the wall of voices kick in it's absolutely stunning.
10:56 Oh, my God, this is my favorite moment in Tchaikovsky's Symphony No. 6 Pathétique! 😍
In my mind Carach Angren is among the greatest examples of symphonic metal. I highly recommend checking them out.
Turisas is a good example of orchestral instruments being used with heavy metal. Their song Venetoi Prasinoi is a really good example.
Besides Prog, Neo-Classical, and other such subgenres, there have been several songs that incorporate bits from classical. The whole opening riff for Am I Evil is just Mars, Bringer of War
Just listen to Epica, Symphony X, Blind Guardian, Rhapsody of Fire and other symphonic-, neoclassical-, progressive- or power- metal. It works wonders.
i have always loved the mixture of metal and classical music. one of my favorite subgenres of metal is symphonic metal. it's so sophisticated, yet brutal, dark, yet beautiful, it's dynamic and dramatic, it's amazing. on paper, you think it wouldn't work. heavy guitar riffs, crazy drums and screaming vocals mixed with soft strings, subtle drums, and angelic vocals shouldn't work. but they mix so beautifully.
This reminds me of how "what's up danger" in the spiderverse film sounded better than the actual song
Fun personality fact:
Statistically people with the Myre Briggs NT personality traits are most likely to enjoy classical and or metal when compared to people with differing traits. So they appeal the most to the same type of person.
Whoa. That explains my peculiar sensations while listening to classical and metal music. :D Edit: oh, now I saw it's NT, but I'm NF. loool
There is so much heavy metal in the classical music of the 20th century...of course it works together! 😉
Ik especially stanvisky
metallica s&m is the answer to the question if heavy metal and classical music work together.
i had the honor of attending both s&m² shows last september and it was easily the most unique and awesome show i have ever seen.
Some of my favourite metal albums incorporate classical/symphonic elements. Some of those albums are as follows...
Blind Guardian - Beyond the Red Mirror
Therion - Secret of the Runes
Therion - Gothic Kabbalah
Tanagra - Meridiem
Amorphis - Queen of Time
Cor Scorpii - Ruin
Fjoergyn - Lucifer Es
Vesperian Sorrow - Stormwinds of Ages
It's worrying that it took me this long to scroll and find Therion, they created symphonic metal, after all.
Secret of the Runes and Gothic Kaballah are their best work imo.
I love both metal and classical, both of them together for me, is nothing but an eargasm.
I'll say one to this: *Apocalyptica* 🤘
Nightwish
Stratovarius
I will forever say that "Danse Macabre" is one of the most metal classical songs ever.
You should look up Apocalyptica buddy! Four Cellos covering Metallica!
Also, welcome to Symphonic Metal!
I already saw people mentioning Nightwish and symphonic metal overall, but... Have you heard of melodic death metal? The band called Children Of Bodom was known to incorporate riffs from Mozart and Bach, for example. The composer, vocalist, and guitarist Alexi Laiho passed away recently, to the dismay of many fans worldwide. He is known as a virtuoso, and he was classically trained on violin from a very young age. There's also a video of him covering Vivaldi's Four Seasons Summer Theme on guitar.
Btw. Your channel is such a gem. It even enabled me to get deeper into a lingering interest of mine, which is the study of music, and I haven't felt that good diving into an interest for a long time. Thank you! :)
Have you ever tried Symphonic Black Metal? :D
Wintersun maybe?
@@atlantis315 my favorite band :D
@Van Daygo i know it doesn't. But Wintersun fits the parameters of the OP perfectly. And just to say Symphonic metal is currently my favourite thing in the world, I cannot wait to find out what Tuomas Holopainen came up with for the new NIGHTWISH album.
Try Vesperian Sorrow's album Stormwind of Ages for some great symphonic black metal
@Live Action Sonic ofc not but it can and goes really well together
Well put.
I've been a Metalhead most of my life, coming from a small town with only two country radio stations and from a family with no real musical inclination. I made it through severe abuse and ended up in the foster system at 11 yrs old. Started playing guitar at 9 yrs old and was somewhat forced to learn how to sing in private Catholic school in kindergarten. The first authentic rock music I ever heard (after expanding my ear to Motown, r&b, journey and a couple of Southern rock groups) grabbed me by the shirt. It was my language and was the noise I heard in my head everyday. After listening to 'High n Dry' from a little band called Def Leppard, I was sold. I've experienced the music scene as a musician/ composer in the Thrash Metal scene and always had my personal roots connected to sorrow melodic and aggressive expression. Basically I understood the unspoken stories behind the works of Bach or Beethoven etc.. and for a long time, I kept that to myself only to be pleasantly surprised that most of my network circle of friends and fans appreciated classical music also. No one was trying to reproduce anything from classical but I do believe, through experience, metal and classical are very disciplining and intricate styles of music, maybe this has alot to do with a connection. Also, not out of conceit or judgment, but there were a few well educated and higher IQ types involved in metal music then other genres. I had fun. I still write and record original scores for my own pleasure, I just hope this genre holds on a little longer then it seems it will.
one question: how did you go through this whole video without so much as mentioning Symphonic Metal as a genre as it carries equal elements of both?
Because he doesn't know it exists
I suggest examining Power Metal for a genre which still focuses heavily on melody, expression, and emotion. Something like Sabaton who have a very dynamic sound with a wide range.
I've been saying for years that metal is the new classical
yeah but no
9:24 YES! Good music is good in any genre!!
System of a down: Hold my tablecloth
No.
no
@@creamyanddreamy4017 gtfo stop replying to old comments
Haggard (/ˈhæɡərd/) is a German symphonic metal musical group founded in 1989.[2] The group combines classical music and early music with death doom metal.
Heavy metal vs classical music: **Exists**
Trans Siberian Orchestra: Am I a joke to you?
They were better when they were called Savatage
hyperguyver2 debatable. I wasn’t around during that time, but TSO does have good music and really great concerts.
note to self: look them up later
When I was a teenager and into metal I discovered Yngwie Malmsteen and I was amazed at how classical and metal were perfectly matched.
I'd love to hear a massive orchestra an choir power through the entirety of Iron Maiden's "Seventh Son of a Seventh Son", complete with 3 or 4 lead singers.
Classical Music and Metal do they work together?
Symphonic Metal: Am I a joke to you?
The S&M Metallica album may have sounded alright back in 1999, but after the deluge of proper symphonic metal bands in the 2000s onwards, mixing symphony backing with...and this is the important part...thrash metal doesn't really work that well. If you wanna hear what proper backing symphony with metal sounds like like, listen to Nightwish or Dimmu Borgir's 2017 symphony album "Forces of the Northern Light". The latter is a seamless blend of black metal and a classical symphony orchestra.
S&M is far better orchestrated than those two others.
S&M sounds fine, especially for a live album.
Symphonic Metal started with Savatage in the 80s.
I dont know many times i have listened to classical music and thought this part would work really well in metal. Or i have this part before but played in a metal track.
Also there is something interesting both genres (classical and metal) share as well:
Both genres help the brain to concentrate and are calming as well. So both have the same psychological effects despite the huge difference you might think they have.