Actually "Go west" (originally by The Village People) was inspired by the National Hymn of the USSR. The melody of the hymn is almost the same but everything in double time.
These 4 more come to mind. Beethoven Sonata #13 (Pathetique), 2nd movement --- Billy Joel "This Night" Sibelius Symphony #5, 3rd movement --- First Class "Beach Baby" (long vers) Chopin Prelude in C minor --- Barry Manilow "Could It Be Magic" Brahms Symphony #3, 3rd movement --- Santana "Love of my Life"
At 75 now, I've heard SO many pop melodies that were based on classical pieces. It became 'a thing' for me to actively seek them out and collect them. I'll mention a few older favorites, from all over the map: Lesley Gore - "Just Let Me Cry" (Song of India - Rimsky Korsakov) Lou Christie - "Painter" (Un Bel Di - from Madama Butterfly) Various - "Stranger In Paradise" - (Polovtsian Dances - Borodin) Perry Como - "Til the End of Time" - (Polonaise in Abmi - Chopin) Jackie Wilson - "Night" - ("Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix" from Samson and Delilah by Camille Saint-Saëns) Della Reese - "Don't You Know" - (from Puccini's La bohème) Honorable mention: Georgia Gibbs + - "Kiss of Fire" - (not a classical piece, but a vintage tango, El Choclo) ...And so many more. Thanks for the opportunity to share some of the things my brain is crammed with - No one I've ever known was interested in this pop trivia.
If you were three years older you would remember this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Heart_Cries_for_You#References (See my comment above from 2 years ago.) Guy Mitchell was already my favorite singer for 'Truly Fair' the same year, and Her Nibs Miss Gibbs also sang 'Dance with Me Henry' a bit later.. (Now I will search for the Red Foley version!)
"Various - "Stranger In Paradise" - (Polovtsian Dances - Borodin)" That's got to be one of the most common ones played. Listening to Classic FM, I now think of it as Borodin's "Stranger in Paradise"....
You missed Sting’s “Russians” which uses music from Sergei Prokofiev’s “Lt. Kije” (both the solemn, Russian-sounding intro. and the light hearted sounding troika.😮Oops, Prokofiev died in 1953 and “Russians” came out in 1985.
Im a classically trained musician. I hate"Memories", it drives me insane when the melody doesn't continue. It's like listening to Let It Go but only the "let it go" phrase.
That's exactly what it is. There's no progression in it. It's an incredibly bad and lazy bit of song writing, especially considered it's an homage to their late manager. I mean...put some effort into it at least.
Unless your legal team, your estate, and your record label share a quarter of a brain cell and sue everyone using your track. And possibly if not probably win thousands of dollars.
By the way, it's not that Canon in D isn't in copyright anymore - it never was! When Johann Pachelbel wrote that song, Copyright wasn't even a thing yet. He just gifted a piece of music to Johann Sebastian Bach for his wedding. He didn't even expected to be paid for it, as his major job was that of a famous Organist who played in many churches in the HRR. The term copyright evolved in the classical period, when composers like Mozart, Händel or Beethoven began to write either for a specific customer who then earned the right to use it first or a music printing company, who got the right to sell copies of the sheets to pianists, orchestras etc. Copyright law was only established in the 20th century, when classical composers, who feared of losing income when radio stations could broadcast their music for free to everyone, wanted some of the revenue from the broadcasters. Before that broadcasters were allowed to play the music as they want, as long as they had bought the sheets/record legally. So the RIAA, AKM, GEMA etc. got established together with law that says that every creative work is under the copyright and the creative can decide what he wants to do with it. In the end that didn't happened, as many record companies just take away the copyright from the artist
The first song ever broadcast on public radio back in the early 1900's was George Frederick's Handel's aria "Ombra mai fu" from Handel's opera "Xerxes" -better known as an instrumental as Handel's "Largo". Actually Handel's beautiful melody was based on a rival Italian composer called Bononcini but Bononcini himself had based it on an ever earlier tune by the Venetian composer Cavalli. Musical copywright is a fairly recent thing.
I think it depends if Maroon 5 was able to copyright their version. Did they change it substantially and materially enough to allow for a copyright? I have no idea. I do know that nobody can use Maroon 5's recording without permission. Music has two copyrights. The first is the composition, anything that can be written down, lyrics, notes, etc. The second is each recording of the music. So don't use one of your albums on your video or you might owe the orchestra that made the album money.
@@Silence-Dogood sadly, i think they can copyright their version because they added lyrics and removed some of the melody from canon to make it sound like pop.
Chord progressions can’t be copyrighted, there’s a limited amount of chord progressions that sound nice and natural to our ears. Melodies on the other hand, are another story.
Badidea Bearcub lmao that’s exactly what I was thinking, you could sit at a piano and play a random chord progression and it would match at least one classical piece
I like classical music, and this is from someone who also likes rock music, most older cartoons like bugs bunny show used classical music, that's part of the reason I like it.
I mean, the chords and melodies might be similar and in some cases rip offs lol, but the feel of listening to violins, cellos, and flutes is kind of a lot different to listening to a beat with bass and guitar or a synth... they might be musicaly similar but how they feel to the listener, especially us, music illiterates, is VERY different
A moment of appreciation here, the effort and amount of labour that went into making this video is so nice for the receiving end. Watched it twice since I love references in (modern) music but this segment broadened that horizon quite a bit. Thank you.
Queen was straightforward about adapting classical music to rock. Even freddie said that he wanted to bring the ballet to the mases or something simmilar
@@bababooey6193 No, he made a statement in an interview that he wanted to bring ballet to the masses. Drunk Sid Vicious(Sex Pistols) annoyed him when they were recording in the same studio, asking: "So have you succeeded bringing ballet to the masses yet?". Freddie called him "Simon Ferocious" and threw him out of the studio. In the end he certainly brought opera to the masses when he worked on the Barcelona album with Montserrat Caballé.
I put together a Pachelbel Canon list a few years ago. There may be more. The Farm - All Together now Aerosmith - Cryin' Blues Traveller - Hook (which sort of sings about putting musical "hooks" like Pachelbel in songs) One Tin Soldier - There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the Judgement Day: Los Pop Tops - Oh Lord why Lord Delirium - Paris Village People - Go West (Though you can hear it better in the Pet Shop Boys version) Maroon 5 - Memories Vampire Weekend - Step Aphrodite's Child - Rain And Tears Green Day - Basket Case Procol Harum - Sunday morning Ralf McTell - Streets of London Brian Eno - Fullness of the Wind (er, though this one is a variation on Canon) First Class - Beach Baby Percy Sledge - When a man loves a woman Oasis - Don't look back in anger Coolio - C U When U Get There Vitamin C - Graduation 2 Pac - Life Goes on Expo - This Night Akon - Lonely
I used to do an open mike with friends in which we sang all the songs we could think of that used Pachelbel’s canon, included “She Will be Loved,” Maroon 5 “With or Without You” U2 “Shadows of the Day”… Linkin Park? I think? And, “Already Gone” Kelly Clarkson, “Halo” Beyoncé (both written by Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic), and, of course, “It’s Raining Tacos” by Perry Gripp
I would be really mad if i listen to Canon in D by Pachelbel and someone hears it and says: "omg is Memories (instrumental)" EDIT: Ooommmmgggg!! Thankkk you guysss!! I didnt notice i had 1k the most i ever had is like 40 likes xd
There are also many tunes by Tchaikovsky that were turned into songs: 1. "Night birds" by Shakatak.... Hamlet overture 2. "Vereda tropical" by Gonzalo Curiel.... Rose adagio of "The sleeping beauty" 3. "Fina estampa" by Chabuca Granda... Waltz of the flowers of "The nutcracker" 4. "Si la reina de España muriera" by Los embajadores criollos..... waltz of the String serenade. 5. "Starry night" by Glenn Miller..... First movement of the Sixth symphony Etc.
I was so confused at #5 thinking that the 1st mvmt of Beethoven's 6th doesn't sound like the Glenn Miller. Then I realized you were talking about Tchaikovsky's 6th. XD
Have you seen this arrangement of Memories? It actually morphs into Canon at the end, and is stunningly beautiful. ruclips.net/video/XB6yjGVuzVo/видео.html
I’m glad you included, ”All By Myself” by Eric Carmen in your list. It is my favorite example of classical music in a rock/pop song. My second favorite is “Could It Be Magic” by Barry Manilow.
They did way worse than that. But so long as the folk songs were of anonymous (lost) composition, I guess it's ok. It's actually a pretty good way of making sure said folk song does not disappear throughout the ages, as I'm sure were the case of many folk songs we'll never have the privilege of listening to.
@@skzion2 Why say worse? You may as well replace the word with better, and it would make little difference.The more accurate word would be more, they did more than just use folk melodies as a starting point. There is nothing better or worse about it.
The very late 18th and even more so through the 19th century, in Eastern Europe in particular, where you had intellectuals of the "Left" who were 'Nationalists' [Usually because they were fighting a class war with an old Aristocracy that was 'Foreign'] Not only were classical composers like R .Wagner and others around the same time frame, influenced by folk, they started to contrive freshly made scales for their respective Nations that were used by folk artists and classical composers alike. Django Reinhardt sounding scales, from Hungary and Romania for example, where you get that very Eastern flavour, a Romantic "Gypsie" sound like you here in Francis Ford Coppola's "Dracula" soundtrack. Imagine a Minor Aeolian scale but, with an augmented fourth note [Tritone], you get a cool sound playing the intervals very close together around the Fifth. I love it, sounds great.
May I add: You're the Love of My Life, by Santana, taken from Brahms Symphony #3, Movement 3, Paul Simon's American Tune from Bach's O Sacred Head Now Wounded, which Bach borrowed from Hans Leo Hassler and, finally, Dan Fogelberg's Same Old Lang Syne, which, if you listen closely takes part of the melody from the 1812 Overture (some people can't hear it, but it is obvious to me). As a musician ,and teacher, I really appreciate your videos.
It's like when you feed your dinner guests a cockroach burger and they're loving it right up till the moment you reveal the recipe. The main reason why people dislike classical music, is because they were taught it's not something they can like.
Billy Joel's 'This Night' is based on Beethoven Sonata Pathetique Second Movement and Barry Manilow's song "Could it Be Magic" is based on Chopin's Prelude in C minor, Opus 28, Number 20.
Memories by Maroon 5 literally makes me want to vomit because I’m so traumatized by having to play Pachelbel for weddings ALL THE TIME I get so triggered when I hear it
@@oles9196 It wasn't dragged into pop, it was simply reused. It's all so not ripping off if it's very clear it wasn't you who actually composed the song
Im a violinist and Canon in D is such a beautiful piece. However, i understand how you feel: that song is so overused no one is creative anymore. Im utterly sick of being asked to play Titanic, myself. There are dozens of pieces of music in that movie...
Im a choir member, and one day on our freetime our pianist played canon in d and the altos started to sing memories and the pianist and I started laughing so hard And they were kinda pissed and then I said, Bruh, thats canon in d! And then one of the guys said oh I didnt realize how similar they were And the other one said oh yeah I recognize that, it was the song played on my uncles wedding
A newer example that plays on this premise is “Feel my Rhythm” by kpop group Red Velvet. Their song opens immediately with the baroque tuning of Air on the G String by Bach
Some musicians do that subconsciously. I know a musician, a friend of mine, that told me that he had stayed up all night composing some music only to find out that he had literally ripped it off a classical piece measure for measure, he said " I was so disappointed and just went to bed after realizing what I did"
I hd the same thing with fast car(the guitar melody and the chords) from tracy chapman, without knewing the song, a friend of mine told me after i played it to him
The same thing happened to George Harrison. He wrote and recorded "My Sweet Lord," and didn't realize until he got sued that it was note-for-note the Chiffons' "He's So Fine." He settled with them.
The fist time I heard memories I was like, wait that's Canon in D. I haven't heard anybody else talk about it (granted I've never looked) but I'm glad that I'm not the only one that noticed the correlation.
In concert, Dan Fogelberg introduced his song “Same Auld Lang Syne” by saying it was inspired by Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture. The melody is very close, and made me appreciate both works even more.
“Does this sound familiar?” Me being the musical intellectual I am: yes um... it’s... obviously um... the... beautiful piece... umm... by this guy a long time ago... yeah...
Which is ironic because: a) many of the big hit movies the studio was built on were adaptations of public domain stories: Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, etc. and b) two of their big films ripped off other animated works which actually were still in copyright ("Aladdin" ripped off "The Thief and the the Cobbler" and The Lion King ripped off "Kimba: The White Lion"), but Disney is rich enough to scare people from trying to fight them in court.
Deadmau5 sent a cease and desist to Disney for using one of his songs without permission. Disney honored it, probably because it wasn't in anything big just a small video.
Surprisingly that wasn't the case :O I was just chilling at work then someone played that song, and I immediately exclaimed "that's a Pachelbel tune!", everybody was staring blankly at me. I pulled it up from youtube and they were like "yeah it sounds like it" and continued to listed to Maroon 5. ... I can't even.
I think it is possible to copy a prior melody or chord progression without intentionally knowing, or even hearing the original at some point. After all, the choices in music are not always infinite. Just as important ideas sometimes occur to several people at the same time, it is certainly possible in music as well.
I had that in mind for a long time. Certainly someone has calculated the possible permutations of a useful melody. But over the years you hear so much different music. Musicians even more. So how can you tell you didn't hear something 20 years ago and it stuck in your mind ? And the other way around: how can you check you didn't pick up something existent ?
The melody of “Memories” isn’t identical to Canon so, if you literally released a song with the exact same melody as “Memories” then yes, you would be sued. However, if your melody copied the elements of “Memories” that we’re already borrowed from Canon then I think the court would let you get away with it as, those elements, were owned by everyone already (i.e. public domain)
@@fortunamajor7239 talentless hacks get all bent out of shape over this because they don't realize how easy it is for real people to come up with original music. I do it all the time ... It is literally the easiest thing in the world to do.
Canon in D is etched in everybody’s brain: it is the opposite of stealing, songwriters’ brain are invaded by Canon in D. It takes extra effort to write something other than Canon in D.
Leonard Bernstein's "Somewhere" from West Side Story is taken in parts from measures of Beethoven's Piano Concerto #5 (2nd Movement Theme), Richard Strauss's Burleske for Piano and Orchestra (2nd Theme), and Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake (Song of the Swan). Lesson: When you steal, steal from the best.
@@PointyTooth Actually, I was pointing out that this is a very common skill for any experienced musician. I think pretty much any teacher would be able to do this.
wrinkleneckbass it kinda already happened, the band Spirt sued Led Zeppelin for Stair way to heaven and their case lost due to both of them being “inspired by” a song from the 17th century.
Quite similar with that tiktok background deadman. The remixer just put some beat and into to the original song (little adiantum) and he already claimed copyright over it
1:00 I feel Pachelbel's Canon is possibly more present in popular music than any other classical composition. Other examples are "Together Again" Janet Jackson, "See You When You Get There" Coolio, "Graduation (Friends Forever)" Vitamin C, "All Together Now" The Farm, "Rain and Tears" Aphrodite's Child(early example), "Cloud 9" Nik Kershaw....oh yes and Sonic the Hedgehog (Master System) Bridge Zone by Yuzo Koshiro.
The Maroon five song rips the whole thing though, whereas many of the others changed them in some way, simply using the same chord progression doesn't mean a song has been stolen, however, ripping the melody, and the progression, definitely makes the defense of Maroon Five difficult.
Yeah was gonna say, that Maroon Five track sounds absolutely fuckin abysmal. Basically takes everything that's good about Pachelbel's Canon and makes it into an ungodly shit show
As much as I'm a fan of classical music (and would much rather listen to Pachelbel instead of Maroon Five), I would have to come to the defense of Maroon Five. It seems like a perfectly reasonable use of musical quotation, and for the purpose they were going for, I think it worked. One thing the video doesn't mention is that in these "rip offs", sometimes the point is for people to know what they're referring to. Maroon Five wasn't trying to be subtle about it because they were directly quoting Canon in D to illicit certain emotions. And you can't discount the addition of lyrics to a piece. I'd say that in and of itself is a significant change. tl;dr - seems like fair play to me
@@ryantjanzen I don't know, I feel like the integrity of Paschebel's piece has been taken away somewhat by its being used so blatantly in a pop song, maybe I'm just a music nerd, but I feel like Maroon V can't properly be given credit for effectively quoting it without taking into consideration the effect Canon in D has on an audience. By simplifying it, and melting it down to its bare bones, I feel like something has been taken away from it. Plus, Maroon V made money off that song, and didn't have to write half of it, which makes me feel as though it's unfair to simply call it a quotation, but, I do respect the attempt that was made.
I remember listening for the first time "Memories" by Maroon 5 with some friends and being like "Dudes, thats literally Canon in D" "Nah, I dont know what you talking 'bout" "wHatChA mEaN? It'S LiTtEraLlY CaNOn and ThEy aRe GeTtInG aWay with IT!!" Edit: typos
I wish more song writers would follow Joel’s examples. I think it’s great to rework old melodies, but it bothers me that modern song writers don’t credit the old masters explicitly.
Thanks for mentioning this Billy Joel song. It's one of my all time favorites and brings back wonderful memories for me of my teenage years in the mid eighties.
I wish people wouldn't refer to it as 'ripping off'. Art is built on, inspired by, and imitated by other art. We stand on the shoulders of giants. And sometimes even the slightest change makes a world of difference. I understand why the title was chosen, though, and the video is excellent. I like how he even suggests basing new songs off of the old ones. As for the songs, a couple of those are so obvious (incl. the first), I'd be ashamed if i hadn't immediately recognized them. The Green Day adaptation is less blatant though, and an excellent use of the progression.
The melody of "Over the Rainbow" from "The Wizard of Oz" can be found in a composition by Pietro Mascagni -in his Overture to the opera "Guglielmo Ratcliff" this was written decades before the popular song.
I just listened to it and you are right! My goodness I wouldn't have ever known that if you hadn't posted. And he was still alive when the movie was released. Thanks.
@@vaughanmacegan4012 Another 2 examples are (1)The Beatles' song "Hey Jude" -the melody occurs in English composer'sJohn Ireland 1907 setting of the "Te Deum" a choral piece and the tune of the French national anthem "The Marsellais" occurs about 20 years earlier than the Roget d'Lisle 1791 song in a composition by the eminent Italian violinist and composer Viotti who worked largely in France and the UK
That (Canon in D) is my absolute FAVORITE classical piece of all time. So many "artists" have ripped it off over the years but the original will ALWAYS be the best.
The kids made me listen to "Memories", and I could hum along with it immediaty. They were astounded, and then I made them listen to Canon in D. Then they realised this classical music wasn't maybe so boring.
But most people know them the other way round. That’s global success and what dreams are made of. Not as many people think of music as an art form, as in a geeky way. Musicians certainly don’t behave that way.
dimitreze Did not realize. I noticed it a couple of months back because I ad lib songs to my dogs when I play with them. I was making up a parody of “O Sole Mío” and realized I was accidentally singing “It’s Now or Never”, LOL.
ScrubKid I assure you using nouns and adjectives as verbs is often used a form of cheap humor to emit a more juvenile tone. It’s not even new, literature has done this for centuries. Why’re so pedantic?
What will be funny is that many of Mr. Hendrix's better tunes were 'remakes/ rehashes' of other artists - most notably Bob Dylan - and last I checked, he's still alive, so the PD won't hit until at least 2090, so many of those 'free real estate' artists will get screwed for said attempts... Brilliant!!
Freddie Mercury was a massive opera fan. In 1988 he made a whole album, “Barcelona”, with operatic diva Montserrat Caballé. She adored his personality, raved about his musicianship, and sang at his funeral. Look up the music video for “Barcelona”! 😊
Billy Joel used the second movement of Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata for the chorus of This Night. He was considerate enough to credit the composer on the jacket of his Innocent Man LP as "L.v. Beethoven."
If you think about it, it’s becoming harder and harder to write completely new, unused and unsampled melodies and tunes with how many songs have been created
Off the top of my head: "Don't You Know?" by Della Reese - “Musetta’s Waltz”) from Puccini’s La Bohème "Russians" by Sting - Romance theme from Prokofiev's Lieutenant Kijé Suite by Sergei "This Night" by Billy Joel - second movement of Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata.
"Same Auld Lang Syne" was based off of "The 1812 Overture." "American Tune" from Paul Simon was based off the chorale from Bach's "St. Matthew's Compassion." This was also used as the tune for a Christian hymn, "Oh Sacred Head Now Wounded." Perry Como's "Catch a Falling Star" uses one of the themes from Brahm's, "Academic Festival Overture." Neil Diamond's "Song Sung Blue" is loosely based on the second movement of Mozart’s Piano Concerto #21. Toni Wine and Carol Bayer Sager borrowed from the Rondo movement of Clementi’s Sonatina in G major, op. 36 no. 5 to come up with this hit, “A Groovy Kind of Love.” My brother and I did a radio show for several years and once did a show called "Classical Classics" which featured these and other songs, including "Whiter Shade of Pale."
@@paulsmart5199 Hi Paul. You might want to re-read the first sentence. It's "SAME Auld Lang Syne," written by Dan Fogelberg in 1980, not "Auld Lang Syne." You thought you had me, but you were too quick to pull the trigger. 🙂
When I was growing up my dad listened to various music and a couple of his favorites were Mozart and Rachmaninoff. When I got a job of my own I went out and bought several classical albums and one was Piano Concerto #2 by Rachmaninoff. I was also listening to popular music and went out and bought Eric Carmen's self titled album. I was playing "All By Myself" when right in the middle in the piano solo I said I have heard this before. I jumped up and got my Rachmaninoff album and played it. Not only was it the same tune the piano solo of "All By Myself" was practically note for note. I felt great that I recognized it. I feel that popular musicians can influence the youth to listen to the classical composers and I have no problem with them using the great composers' music.
There's a Muse song called Space Dementia that uses one of Rachmaninoff's melodies (I believe it might be Piano Concerto #2 but don't quote me on that it could be a different piece) as the melody of the vocal part of the chorus!
Carmen (or perhaps it was his record company) was prosecuted by Rachmaninoff's heirs, as Rachmaninoff had not been dead for 7v years when "All by myself" was released. Disgraceful behaviour all around. Carmen for not crediting Rachmaninoff, and the copyright owners for going after him.
I had a similar experience but I heard the song that used an classical song as an inspiration before. I'm a huge football fan so I know the UEFA Champions League hymn. When my mother sang zadok the priest by Händl, I said I know this song. And after googling a bit I found that the hymn really used Zadok the priest. My mind was really blown.
I see no problem with that, but Maroon 5 should've at least provided attribution to the original, perhaps in the title, for those who think they were trying to get away with something (which I don't, they knew everyone would know what they were doing which is part of the reason they did it).
Wow, the amount of detail, and work into this is amazing. The clarity, the depth of understanding needed to put something like this is top notch. And then you have the video making ability to put it into a tutorial, just incredible. Subscribed!
The greatest irony is that the record companies’ attempt to control the copyright of their music in order to make music is stopping people like me telling others how great that music is and thus making them money!
Funny thing is, prior to 1973 in the USA you could only copyright the sheet music, not the sound recording... that’s why the Stairway to Heaven case jury never actually listened to the songs in question, just compared the sheet music!
@@DavidBennettPiano I have wondered if you would be able to contact the companies to put that case to them? Same with Rick Beato and his "What makes this song great... " series. You are selling the record for them, so they should pay you for advertising...
Billy Joel’s “This Night” is aka second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata.. but Billy Joel credited Beethoven as a songwriter for it...
And the second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata is taken from the secont motif in secone movement of Mozart piano sonata, I think it is K472.
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but - borrowing from classical music certainly existed in the Big Band era. The most famous is Benny Goodman's Let's Dance which the melody is adapted from Invitation to the Dance by Carl Maria von Weber. No copyright issues, as that piece was written in 1819.
@@Danmashinigamikuro "Piece" is a form of abuse. It means "we're classical musicians and we don't want to associate with people who call their music songs". Say you have "Yesterday" by the Beatles and you cover it without vocals. Does it stop being a song? No. Say you have a "choral piece" and people are singing. Are you calling it a song? No. A song is something with a good and strong melody. Songs are difficult to write. They are an important art form that classical musicians want to denigrate with the term, "piece". I prefer the term "track" or "work". "Ode to Joy" is a song embedded in a symphony. "Toccata and Fugue" is a song. "Piece" is nothing more than a hundreds year old bullshit branding exercise.
@@sieteocho "Piece" is the generic term for a musical composition. "Track" means a recorded piece (such as on an album). Songs are sung, hence their name. If there is no one singing, it isn't a song, it is an instrumental. If a piece is originally sung, then covering it without vocals doesn't stop it from being a song. The cover wouldn't be one, however (in which case it would be called an instrumental cover. That's actually the term people use when they do an instrumental cover of a song, lol). The only abuse (and bullshit) I see here comes from you, wanting to change the meaning of words you don't like because they hurt your fragile little feelings. I would strongly advise you read a dictionary.
@@Danmashinigamikuro No shit. I thought that composition is the generic term for a composition. Not all classical music is "songs". But the ones that pop music would want to rip off are all songs. By and large, there is a discipline about pop music, whereby if there isn't a melody that grabs your attention immediately, you're out. The CD player goes to another track. The spotify listener goes to the next one. Pop music is honest about this: the tracks that get skipped over is called "filler". Whereas for classical music, no such honesty exists. There's plenty of space between the recognisable themes. Some of it is good. A lot of it is "it ain't over till the fat lady sings". As in, you just have to sit there with a grin while the orchestra noodles on and pretend you appreciate it. It's true that pop music wants to emulate some of classical music, but let's be honest, it's a terribly small portion of it. The small part which deserves to be called "songs".
Glad its mentioned, didnt know it would sound good backwards. Piano though, or guitar, we all practice forwards and backwards. Maybe it was originally written backwards and now Yoko has corrected it....oooh lifes good
The Hook by Blues Traveler is Canon in D. It's intentionally like that, it seems, since the lyrics are based on the lack of perception of the modern music audience. it's essentially just Canon in D with him going "it doesn't matter what I say, as long I sing with inflection..." .... just explaining easy it easy to write a pop song. I love it!
SmashedB Yes - I wasn’t suggesting that Joel didn’t acknowledge that it was totally a Beethoven tune. Just pointing out that it IS totally a Beethoven tune.
@@TheRealPaulCaplin Of course. I was also suggesting that, unlike some artists, I believe Billy not only stated it on the album cover, I think over the years he's been pretty open about the fact that it was a direct "steal" on his part...that it was more or less a tribute to his favorite composer. :-)
Also, the entire album is in various older styles, of days when classical themes were often borrowed for pop songs. ("Hot Diggity" is just Chabrier's España re-done.)
There's a saying, "Music is an endless cycle; it never gets old" Now seeing this, I actually believe it now. Music evolves to what the public demands. But at the end of the day, its still the same.
You certainly have a great ear (intonation too, ha ) and a great repetoir with which to refer. Sometimes, those who were trained in classical standards, subconsciously come up with "copied " melodies. Most writers today take pride in their originality...but I, myself caught myself basing a love song on the same three notes, utilized by Willie Nelson. He had a song I'd never heard before, titled " She's Gone." Mine is titled " Don't Let me be Lonely Tonight" (as a solo as well as a duo with Fred Gold.) I found later that Willie, had "apparently" taken the same Dminor and first three chords from the classical also. SO, BOTH Willie and I are apparently to blame for "hearing and writing" those in our songs! BTW MY " Don't Let me be Lonely Tonight' is NOTHING like James Taylor's and was written two years prior to his. UNINTENTIONAL sometimes, INTENTIONAL...NOT me. I'd always admit if I "rearranged" something, and don't ever consider it "copying." Sincerely, LyndaFayeSmusic@Yahoo&Bandcamp "One Enchanted Evening, I Found an Old Friend." in French & Italian by Ana Marie Ceuca. Google doesn't have an ear, so they first zeroed in on the first three words, and never considered the rest of the title.) ORIGINAL
Nicholas Lawrence to be fair, the original isnt always best, but god these pop songs are so shit because they only simplify it without adding their own twist.
A whiter shade of pale is still a classic, even if it does have the poxiest lyrics. One of sixteen vestal virgins who were leaving for the coast. What?!!!
The one with „it’s a hard life“ actually doesn’t surprise me too much because Freddie loved opera and classic music so much (I mean you can already tell I guess lmao)
There's also a difference between a "rip off" and a short "citation" that is meant as a homage. Classical composers have been doing the latter for centuries.
Spiritualized’s song “Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space” is very clearly based on Canon in D, but it’s just used so absolutely beautifully. It’s my favorite love song ever. In the right hands you can do amazing things with some of these older classical pieces. It all depends on what you do with it, just like any of the classic chords for pop, rock, etc.
I think that they took one of the most powerful pieces of music and made it better, it's so beautiful and haunting. I remember the first time I had ever heard it, my wife and I were hot boxing her car and I was playing random music and all of a sudden Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space came on. It floored us both. That's how you recycle the music from the past tastefully.
📍CORRECTION: 3:34 the 2nd to last chord of "Go West" should be ii7 not IV. They are of course very similar chords though (IV is contained within ii7).
Good save. Here's one for you: 'Russians' by Sting. All Prokofiev.
Actually "Go west" (originally by The Village People) was inspired by the National Hymn of the USSR. The melody of the hymn is almost the same but everything in double time.
@@kwancomics the National Hymn of the USSR is itself based on the Canon in D! ruclips.net/video/qdSuzQKNmZg/видео.html
@@fabpc Conspiracy!
These 4 more come to mind.
Beethoven Sonata #13 (Pathetique), 2nd movement --- Billy Joel "This Night"
Sibelius Symphony #5, 3rd movement --- First Class "Beach Baby" (long vers)
Chopin Prelude in C minor --- Barry Manilow "Could It Be Magic"
Brahms Symphony #3, 3rd movement --- Santana "Love of my Life"
The moral:
Don't copy composers until after they sufficiently decompose.
"sufficiently decompose" is certainly an interesting way to put it 😂
LOL
Great band name "Composted Composers"
Best comment of the century
Bryan Hann underrated comment
I was playing cannon in D and my sister starts singing Maroon 5 and I'm like 0_o
I love your profile picture!!
she has a good ear
So, you're saying that your sister is a bro? Just kidding.
ew cannon in D, its overplayed go play something interesting.
Aoibh Tomany same!
Memories doesn't sound like canon in d, it IS Canon in D.
Yeah. I think he [Adam Levine] admit that tune of "Memories" was based on that Pachelbel's piece.
yeah but saying like basket case, for example, is a bit of a stretch imo
I love maroon 5 but the first time I heard memories, I immediately hated it cause all I hear is canon
@@devastator1212 Why? It's because you hate Pachelbel's Canon?
Lmao yeah I've played the intro hundreds of times when I was learning the piano I'm so sick of it now
At 75 now, I've heard SO many pop melodies that were based on classical pieces. It became 'a thing' for me to actively seek them out and collect them. I'll mention a few older favorites, from all over the map:
Lesley Gore - "Just Let Me Cry" (Song of India - Rimsky Korsakov)
Lou Christie - "Painter" (Un Bel Di - from Madama Butterfly)
Various - "Stranger In Paradise" - (Polovtsian Dances - Borodin)
Perry Como - "Til the End of Time" - (Polonaise in Abmi - Chopin)
Jackie Wilson - "Night" - ("Mon cœur s'ouvre à ta voix" from Samson and Delilah by Camille Saint-Saëns)
Della Reese - "Don't You Know" - (from Puccini's La bohème)
Honorable mention: Georgia Gibbs + - "Kiss of Fire" - (not a classical piece, but a vintage tango, El Choclo)
...And so many more. Thanks for the opportunity to share some of the things my brain is crammed with - No one I've ever known was interested in this pop trivia.
If you were three years older you would remember this one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Heart_Cries_for_You#References
(See my comment above from 2 years ago.) Guy Mitchell was already my favorite singer for 'Truly Fair' the same year, and Her Nibs Miss Gibbs also sang 'Dance with Me Henry' a bit later.. (Now I will search for the Red Foley version!)
"Various - "Stranger In Paradise" - (Polovtsian Dances - Borodin)"
That's got to be one of the most common ones played. Listening to Classic FM, I now think of it as Borodin's "Stranger in Paradise"....
Malpractice by Faith No More quotes Shostakovich's 8th String quartet.
Fascinating! Please share any more that are ruminating in your head.
You missed Sting’s “Russians” which uses music from Sergei Prokofiev’s “Lt. Kije” (both the solemn, Russian-sounding intro. and the light hearted sounding troika.😮Oops, Prokofiev died in 1953 and “Russians” came out in 1985.
Im a classically trained musician. I hate"Memories", it drives me insane when the melody doesn't continue. It's like listening to Let It Go but only the "let it go" phrase.
Right? It sounds so unnatural and feels really blocky
That's exactly what it is. There's no progression in it. It's an incredibly bad and lazy bit of song writing, especially considered it's an homage to their late manager. I mean...put some effort into it at least.
@ELIANNA DOUGLAS frozen
@ELIANNA DOUGLAS ruclips.net/video/moSFlvxnbgk/видео.html
So am I, and this comment is so relatable, and it makes my fingers clench together and fall on a piano during someone's performance of a concerto
It’s nice that he actually goes in depth about the topic instead of making it a watchmojo style top 10 list
Indeed. I wouldn't watch him if it was from that channel.
Right!!!!!
Hate that channel
Can watchmojo make a simplified version of this video 70 years after this creator died?
I like that there's options.
Moral of the story: if u release a fire track people will sample it even hundreds of years later
those were the days
Unless your legal team, your estate, and your record label share a quarter of a brain cell and sue everyone using your track. And possibly if not probably win thousands of dollars.
@@arfansthename after 100 years it’s fair game unless ur Disney
@@marktheshark5733 Mickey mouse public domain in 2023 or sth
@@arfansthename This has been in public domain for more than 300 years, no one can sue you for using it.
By the way, it's not that Canon in D isn't in copyright anymore - it never was! When Johann Pachelbel wrote that song, Copyright wasn't even a thing yet. He just gifted a piece of music to Johann Sebastian Bach for his wedding. He didn't even expected to be paid for it, as his major job was that of a famous Organist who played in many churches in the HRR. The term copyright evolved in the classical period, when composers like Mozart, Händel or Beethoven began to write either for a specific customer who then earned the right to use it first or a music printing company, who got the right to sell copies of the sheets to pianists, orchestras etc. Copyright law was only established in the 20th century, when classical composers, who feared of losing income when radio stations could broadcast their music for free to everyone, wanted some of the revenue from the broadcasters. Before that broadcasters were allowed to play the music as they want, as long as they had bought the sheets/record legally. So the RIAA, AKM, GEMA etc. got established together with law that says that every creative work is under the copyright and the creative can decide what he wants to do with it. In the end that didn't happened, as many record companies just take away the copyright from the artist
Wow js Bach was getting married? Cool
The first song ever broadcast on public radio back in the early 1900's was George Frederick's Handel's aria "Ombra mai fu" from Handel's opera "Xerxes" -better known as an instrumental as Handel's "Largo". Actually Handel's beautiful melody was based on a rival Italian composer called Bononcini but Bononcini himself had based it on an ever earlier tune by the Venetian composer Cavalli. Musical copywright is a fairly recent thing.
@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv he had a lot of kids too
@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv with his sibling if im not wrong
The good thing is that Maroon 5 will never be able to sue someone who makes a similar song to Memories, or so I hope.
That's a good question... Will Maroon 5 be able to sue people if people also use this song.
As long as they say they based it from canon lol
I think it depends if Maroon 5 was able to copyright their version. Did they change it substantially and materially enough to allow for a copyright? I have no idea. I do know that nobody can use Maroon 5's recording without permission. Music has two copyrights. The first is the composition, anything that can be written down, lyrics, notes, etc. The second is each recording of the music. So don't use one of your albums on your video or you might owe the orchestra that made the album money.
I just hope no-one ever makes a similar song to Memories.
@@Silence-Dogood sadly, i think they can copyright their version because they added lyrics and removed some of the melody from canon to make it sound like pop.
Chord progressions can’t be copyrighted, there’s a limited amount of chord progressions that sound nice and natural to our ears. Melodies on the other hand, are another story.
Badidea Bearcub lmao that’s exactly what I was thinking, you could sit at a piano and play a random chord progression and it would match at least one classical piece
Truth
Miley Cyrus is getting sued for chord progression copyrights
raul valencia link?
We need another evolution in music theory, I think. A new treatise and style would freshen things up a bit but would sound off to our ears for a bit
So many people say they don't like classical music without ever knowing most music derives from classical.
Not really true. Traditional folk music (not that Dylan rubbish) precedes it.
I like classical music, and this is from someone who also likes rock music, most older cartoons like bugs bunny show used classical music, that's part of the reason I like it.
I mean, the chords and melodies might be similar and in some cases rip offs lol, but the feel of listening to violins, cellos, and flutes is kind of a lot different to listening to a beat with bass and guitar or a synth... they might be musicaly similar but how they feel to the listener, especially us, music illiterates, is VERY different
I’d say that you should replace the word “Classical” with “Blues”
@@man.i.literally.failed6772 me too some of its lile rock with different instruments because they didnt have the same guitars and stuff as us
Disney's Sleeping Beauty movie just effectively put lyrics to Tchaikovsky's Sleeping Beauty waltz and titled it "Once Upon a Dream".
A moment of appreciation here, the effort and amount of labour that went into making this video is so nice for the receiving end. Watched it twice since I love references in (modern) music but this segment broadened that horizon quite a bit. Thank you.
That really means a lot. These videos take AGEEEESSSS To finish so I'm very thankful for the appreciation!
Big love and God Bless Dave!
I just would like to add that it doesn't any ads yet. So....
Queen was straightforward about adapting classical music to rock. Even freddie said that he wanted to bring the ballet to the mases or something simmilar
Wasn't it opera to the masses?
@@bababooey6193 No, he made a statement in an interview that he wanted to bring ballet to the masses. Drunk Sid Vicious(Sex Pistols) annoyed him when they were recording in the same studio, asking: "So have you succeeded bringing ballet to the masses yet?". Freddie called him "Simon Ferocious" and threw him out of the studio.
In the end he certainly brought opera to the masses when he worked on the Barcelona album with Montserrat Caballé.
Freddie considered the second part of Bohemian Rhapsody-“I see a little silhouette of a man …”-to be the “opera part”.
@Bertram Winkle that's got nothing to do with Freddie's statement to Sid
I put together a Pachelbel Canon list a few years ago. There may be more.
The Farm - All Together now
Aerosmith - Cryin'
Blues Traveller - Hook (which sort of sings about putting musical "hooks" like Pachelbel in songs)
One Tin Soldier - There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the Judgement Day:
Los Pop Tops - Oh Lord why Lord
Delirium - Paris
Village People - Go West (Though you can hear it better in the Pet Shop Boys version)
Maroon 5 - Memories
Vampire Weekend - Step
Aphrodite's Child - Rain And Tears
Green Day - Basket Case
Procol Harum - Sunday morning
Ralf McTell - Streets of London
Brian Eno - Fullness of the Wind (er, though this one is a variation on Canon)
First Class - Beach Baby
Percy Sledge - When a man loves a woman
Oasis - Don't look back in anger
Coolio - C U When U Get There
Vitamin C - Graduation
2 Pac - Life Goes on
Expo - This Night
Akon - Lonely
I used to do an open mike with friends in which we sang all the songs we could think of that used Pachelbel’s canon, included “She Will be Loved,” Maroon 5 “With or Without You” U2 “Shadows of the Day”… Linkin Park? I think? And, “Already Gone” Kelly Clarkson, “Halo” Beyoncé (both written by Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic), and, of course, “It’s Raining Tacos” by Perry Gripp
and so many more...
Yeah that's how amazing that German piece is
When Coolio passed, I came across that song
And don't forget "Forever young" by Alphaville.
I would be really mad if i listen to Canon in D by Pachelbel and someone hears it and says: "omg is Memories (instrumental)"
EDIT: Ooommmmgggg!! Thankkk you guysss!! I didnt notice i had 1k the most i ever had is like 40 likes xd
@Paola Ramirez not hanging around, i'm surrounded by them
that is sacrilegious!
@@b26t4 rather InTerEstIng
same
You'll be surprised: some people will actually say that in all seriousness.
And now I'm humming Canon in D instead of sleeping...
Savage Words HAHAHA
Same
In D hahahaha
Minuet is stuck in my head now.
Same.
Me: *plays Canon in D on the stage*
Audience: *starts singing Memories*
Pachelbel: am i a joke to u?
EDIT: spelling
Pachelbel*
Ethereal Insight Pachebel*
@@Zerz0 pachelbel**
@@timmy4312 you're right I just realised the guy spelt the name wrong in the video GG
@@Zerz0 oh I didn't realise
There are also many tunes by Tchaikovsky that were turned into songs:
1. "Night birds" by Shakatak.... Hamlet overture
2. "Vereda tropical" by Gonzalo Curiel.... Rose adagio of "The sleeping beauty"
3. "Fina estampa" by Chabuca Granda... Waltz of the flowers of "The nutcracker"
4. "Si la reina de España muriera" by Los embajadores criollos..... waltz of the String serenade.
5. "Starry night" by Glenn Miller..... First movement of the Sixth symphony
Etc.
I was so confused at #5 thinking that the 1st mvmt of Beethoven's 6th doesn't sound like the Glenn Miller. Then I realized you were talking about Tchaikovsky's 6th. XD
Rhapsody in the Rain by Lou Christie…Love Theme from Romeo and Juliet
NIght BIrds ? From Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky Hamlet's ouverture Op.67 ?
It took me so long to convince people of the similarities of Memories/Canon. Had me feeling like I was insane 😂
Have you seen this arrangement of Memories? It actually morphs into Canon at the end, and is stunningly beautiful.
ruclips.net/video/XB6yjGVuzVo/видео.html
How? It's so obvious!
lmao how... it's the first thing i noticed when i listen to memories
@@davee6878 it’s enough to make a grown man cry
@@acbwest 🤣🤣🤣
When people say they don’t like classical music 😂
It's because they don't know it.
burn
maybe they don't like classical instrumentation or song structure and prefer more pop/rock instrumentation/song structures
It’s hardly music you can sing to is it. It’s not really feel good.
It's almost like the melody is only one part of music.
This is what music is all about. In the words of the unselfish Freddy M "do what you like with my music, just don't make me boring".
Memories is not innovative and more fun tho
You know except when they sued Vanilla Ice....
@@mattpfarr6129 Ooooh...snap!
@@mattpfarr6129 because initially he didn't credit them
@@damanbhashaphranglyngskor1102 Memories? Innovative? In the same sentence?
I’m glad you included, ”All By Myself” by Eric Carmen in your list. It is my favorite example of classical music in a rock/pop song. My second favorite is “Could It Be Magic” by Barry Manilow.
I once re-edited a 2 minute section of the Rachmaninoff into the instrumental break - and played it on my radio show - no-one noticd :)
"I wish I found some chords in an order that is new"
21 pilots, stressed out
Hahaha, i am thinking about that lyrics too haha
Never say “21 pilots” again
😭😭😭😭twenty one.....twenty one 😂but fr that song a whole mood
@@stalememes where did the 21 pilots learn how to fly?
Yeah it’s actually twentyønepiløts but ya know
“21 pilots” just really drives me crazy
Only 1600’s kids remember
Omg things were soooo much easier then... remember the nine years war? Queen liz was so much better than that scottish dude
Ugh those old bommerboomerboomerboomers
Also they had terrible food
ugh the good old days, when we could throw our feces out the window without being looked at like a freak.
#relatable
Probably 1400s
To be fair, classical composers often took folk melodies as a starting point.
They did way worse than that. But so long as the folk songs were of anonymous (lost) composition, I guess it's ok. It's actually a pretty good way of making sure said folk song does not disappear throughout the ages, as I'm sure were the case of many folk songs we'll never have the privilege of listening to.
You bet.
@@skzion2 Why say worse? You may as well replace the word with better, and it would make little difference.The more accurate word would be more, they did more than just use folk melodies as a starting point. There is nothing better or worse about it.
@@fordhouse8b yeah, it's not like carolan is going to arise from the dead to sue a romantic composer for copyright.
The very late 18th and even more so through the 19th century, in Eastern Europe in particular, where you had intellectuals of the "Left" who were 'Nationalists' [Usually because they were fighting a class war with an old Aristocracy that was 'Foreign'] Not only were classical composers like R .Wagner and others around the same time frame, influenced by folk, they started to contrive freshly made scales for their respective Nations that were used by folk artists and classical composers alike. Django Reinhardt sounding scales, from Hungary and Romania for example, where you get that very Eastern flavour, a Romantic "Gypsie" sound like you here in Francis Ford Coppola's "Dracula" soundtrack. Imagine a Minor Aeolian scale but, with an augmented fourth note [Tritone], you get a cool sound playing the intervals very close together around the Fifth. I love it, sounds great.
May I add: You're the Love of My Life, by Santana, taken from Brahms Symphony #3, Movement 3, Paul Simon's American Tune from Bach's O Sacred Head Now Wounded, which Bach borrowed from Hans Leo Hassler and, finally, Dan Fogelberg's Same Old Lang Syne, which, if you listen closely takes part of the melody from the 1812 Overture (some people can't hear it, but it is obvious to me). As a musician ,and teacher, I really appreciate your videos.
Same Old Lang Syne really takes the rhythm from the 1812. If people listen for the rhythm of the first line of each verse it's pretty obvious.
@@GrahamCLester 💯
Proof, everyone likes classical at least a little bit.
...as rightly they should.
It's like when you feed your dinner guests a cockroach burger and they're loving it right up till the moment you reveal the recipe. The main reason why people dislike classical music, is because they were taught it's not something they can like.
@@sallyhope2137 what do you MEAN by that?! =O
@@sallyhope2137 God, that's good! ;)
Billy Joel's 'This Night' is based on Beethoven Sonata Pathetique Second Movement and Barry Manilow's song "Could it Be Magic" is based on Chopin's Prelude in C minor, Opus 28, Number 20.
OK maybe I lack teh overall ear, but isn't it just the Chorus of "This Night" that is Beethoven?
@@le_bouvier Yes... at least I think so.
The intro is nearly exactly that.
Billy Joel actually credited Beethoven in the liner notes
"Midnight Blue", recorded by Louise Tucker in the early 80's, is another spin on the Pathétique :)
Memories by Maroon 5 literally makes me want to vomit because I’m so traumatized by having to play Pachelbel for weddings ALL THE TIME I get so triggered when I hear it
It makes me vomit cauz an old masterpiece was dragged into modern Pop that doesnt Last longer than a month cauz the World is so fast living right now
@@oles9196 It wasn't dragged into pop, it was simply reused. It's all so not ripping off if it's very clear it wasn't you who actually composed the song
Im a violinist and Canon in D is such a beautiful piece. However, i understand how you feel: that song is so overused no one is creative anymore. Im utterly sick of being asked to play Titanic, myself. There are dozens of pieces of music in that movie...
O yes!!!! Same here!
Violinist life can be hard
Im a choir member, and one day on our freetime our pianist played canon in d and the altos started to sing memories and the pianist and I started laughing so hard
And they were kinda pissed and then I said,
Bruh, thats canon in d!
And then one of the guys said oh I didnt realize how similar they were
And the other one said oh yeah I recognize that, it was the song played on my uncles wedding
A newer example that plays on this premise is “Feel my Rhythm” by kpop group Red Velvet. Their song opens immediately with the baroque tuning of Air on the G String by Bach
Some musicians do that subconsciously. I know a musician, a friend of mine, that told me that he had stayed up all night composing some music only to find out that he had literally ripped it off a classical piece measure for measure, he said " I was so disappointed and just went to bed after realizing what I did"
I hd the same thing with fast car(the guitar melody and the chords) from tracy chapman, without knewing the song, a friend of mine told me after i played it to him
Owww that is so sad
It happens. Every time I come up with something cool I just go "OK where did I steal this from?“
The same thing happened to George Harrison. He wrote and recorded "My Sweet Lord," and didn't realize until he got sued that it was note-for-note the Chiffons' "He's So Fine." He settled with them.
The fist time I heard memories I was like, wait that's Canon in D. I haven't heard anybody else talk about it (granted I've never looked) but I'm glad that I'm not the only one that noticed the correlation.
Actually it's been mentioned a lot. Anyone who knows anything about music can spot the similarities.
I noticed immediately, but wasn't offended. I always assumed it was intentional given what Canon in D is often used for and the context of the lyrics.
@@HeWhoOlives Yeah, canon has been used 100 times already or so...
that's what i thought too the first time I heard it!
It's still a shit song
Maroon 5: 'Hey Pachelbel, can I copy your homework?'
Pachelbel: 'Sure, just change it up a bit'
Maroon 5: Memories.
soo what is it realy tho, pachabel or pachelbel? coz ive known it to be the latter?
This copying was actually an accepted practice in Pachelbel's lifetime.
yeah except when you pasted this comment for likes thinking it was hilarious, you didnt actuslly change it a lityle
In concert, Dan Fogelberg introduced his song “Same Auld Lang Syne” by saying it was inspired by Tchaikovsky’s 1812 Overture. The melody is very close, and made me appreciate both works even more.
“Does this sound familiar?” Me being the musical intellectual I am: yes um... it’s... obviously um... the... beautiful piece... umm... by this guy a long time ago... yeah...
🤮🤮🤮🤮
Shutup, nerd
LMAOOOOOO HAHAHAHA
I second that lily
besides like 99% of music today is inspired by old music.
Copyright has expired..
Disney: hold my beer..
Which is ironic because: a) many of the big hit movies the studio was built on were adaptations of public domain stories: Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, etc. and b) two of their big films ripped off other animated works which actually were still in copyright ("Aladdin" ripped off "The Thief and the the Cobbler" and The Lion King ripped off "Kimba: The White Lion"), but Disney is rich enough to scare people from trying to fight them in court.
@Leandro Diaz Reyes good luck
Deadmau5 sent a cease and desist to Disney for using one of his songs without permission. Disney honored it, probably because it wasn't in anything big just a small video.
I still angry at them about lion king being a rip-off after the creator died
*deer
I mean, taking from canon in D isn't really being sneaky or anything as EVERYONE on planet earth will hear it's taken from canon d.
But the only thing most people will hear is Canon in D, not really the song itself.
Surprisingly that wasn't the case :O
I was just chilling at work then someone played that song, and I immediately exclaimed "that's a Pachelbel tune!", everybody was staring blankly at me. I pulled it up from youtube and they were like "yeah it sounds like it" and continued to listed to Maroon 5.
... I can't even.
@@HassanSelim0 Right! People nowadays are so uncultured, it hurts.
@@bossgamer6332 there not uncultured, rather they have a different culture.
Ethan Harris well said
I think it is possible to copy a prior melody or chord progression without intentionally knowing, or even hearing the original at some point. After all, the choices in music are not always infinite. Just as important ideas sometimes occur to several people at the same time, it is certainly possible in music as well.
I had that in mind for a long time. Certainly someone has calculated the possible permutations of a useful melody. But over the years you hear so much different music. Musicians even more. So how can you tell you didn't hear something 20 years ago and it stuck in your mind ? And the other way around: how can you check you didn't pick up something existent ?
i think its called relative phenomena
Legitimate question: if I, in 2020, now copy Canon In D Major's melody too, can I be sued by Maroon 5?
wow....i need the answer for this too
Good question...
The melody of “Memories” isn’t identical to Canon so, if you literally released a song with the exact same melody as “Memories” then yes, you would be sued.
However, if your melody copied the elements of “Memories” that we’re already borrowed from Canon then I think the court would let you get away with it as, those elements, were owned by everyone already (i.e. public domain)
@@DavidBennettPiano don't give legal advice if you're not a lawyer.
@Kefla I haven't dumbass.
4:07 “for example, what does this piece remind you of?”
Me immediately: that scene from Spongebob where handsome Squidward gets whacked back to normal
Ahhhh thank you! Was trying to remember where I heard it
I was literally going to comment that!
The episode is "The Two Faces of Squidward"
cmon bro one of the best episodes
*Me too!!!*
We can't forget the Big Ugly Clowno
moral:
classical musicians were the first rockstars
i honestly don’t get why this comment got so many likes😅
Actually, moral:
Rockstars are mostly untalented.
Actually, moral:
Liszt wrote everything before people realised it
Only in your twisted modern notion of what is good music would you compare classical composers to rock stars.
Herrick Inman I compare rockstars to degenerate versions of classical composers
Moral:
Rock/Pop stars have no talent.
Brazilian pianist Antônio Carlos Jobim has a beautiful “version” of Chopin’s prelude! It’s called “insensatez”. I love your videos!👏👏👏👏👏
Dull-Detail: Ariana Grande’s “7 Rings” is based off of “My Favorite Things”.
Fun-Fact: She had to give up 90% of publishing in order to sample it.
Yeah that was a big thing but it probably wasn't included in the video because it's a Broadway showtune not a classical piece
@Rachel Fourie calm downnnn
@@fortunamajor7239 talentless hacks get all bent out of shape over this because they don't realize how easy it is for real people to come up with original music. I do it all the time ... It is literally the easiest thing in the world to do.
Yep sound of music is amazing
Madeline Harper I AM CALM. DONT GET MAD BECAUSE I THINK SHE SUCKS-
I loved when you played Canon over Memories. It was like the instrumental was continuing; it sounded really cool.
Tchaikovsky played canon over dinner
Ikr! I actually thought it was super beautiful. I would have enjoyed the song much more with instrumentation like that.
Would make a good remake...if not done so already?
Canon in D is etched in everybody’s brain: it is the opposite of stealing, songwriters’ brain are invaded by Canon in D. It takes extra effort to write something other than Canon in D.
I dare say that the "rip off" was pretty intentional. Hard to feel it was unconscious.
In this case it was clearly intentional though.
What??? No it doesn’t, there are plenty of ways for a musician to diverge from their ear, and all of them are very fun.
@@ryanguerra2024 I agree, it's not hard to write something other than Canon in D or any song or piece stuck in your head for that matter.
Unless you’re a cellist, then you don’t want anything to do with it.
Leonard Bernstein's "Somewhere" from West Side Story is taken in parts from measures of Beethoven's Piano Concerto #5 (2nd Movement Theme), Richard Strauss's Burleske for Piano and Orchestra (2nd Theme), and Tchaikovsky's Swan Lake (Song of the Swan). Lesson: When you steal, steal from the best.
The beginning I am sure is based on a new melody introduced in the coda of Romeo and Juliet. Very appropriate since the WSS plot is based on R&J.
Haha yep.
I have a ukulele student who is learning "Memories".
Blew her mind when I started playing along with the song two bars in on first listen ;)
@@hecticbeatzz5628 Wait so you have perfect pitch and it took you 8 times longer than me?
What a weird thing to brag about lol
@@nuberiffic that's not what perfect pitch is, that's just recognizing a chord progression/melody and transposing it
@@cringeproof100 Sorry, I'm confused by your comment.
What's not perfect pitch?
r/iamverysmart
@@PointyTooth Actually, I was pointing out that this is a very common skill for any experienced musician.
I think pretty much any teacher would be able to do this.
Wait until someone sues an artist claiming they ripped off "their" rip off of a public domain song.
Disney does that all the time
wrinkleneckbass it kinda already happened, the band Spirt sued Led Zeppelin for Stair way to heaven and their case lost due to both of them being “inspired by” a song from the 17th century.
RUclips basically
Quite similar with that tiktok background deadman. The remixer just put some beat and into to the original song (little adiantum) and he already claimed copyright over it
That’s what I was thinking about 😂
Modern Music : Can I copy your homework?
Classical Music : Sure, Just change a few things so it's not obvious.
Best comment.
its strange how accurate this is
Daisy Illicit so what, I call it a piece of art.
Except they didn’t say “sure”
No Hate Here, my reply to ur reply is the opposite of ur user.
1:00 I feel Pachelbel's Canon is possibly more present in popular music than any other classical composition. Other examples are "Together Again" Janet Jackson, "See You When You Get There" Coolio, "Graduation (Friends Forever)" Vitamin C, "All Together Now" The Farm, "Rain and Tears" Aphrodite's Child(early example), "Cloud 9" Nik Kershaw....oh yes and Sonic the Hedgehog (Master System) Bridge Zone by Yuzo Koshiro.
The Maroon five song rips the whole thing though, whereas many of the others changed them in some way, simply using the same chord progression doesn't mean a song has been stolen, however, ripping the melody, and the progression, definitely makes the defense of Maroon Five difficult.
and having as result a silly bad song, converting gold in to 💩💩 makes it even more difficult
Yeah was gonna say, that Maroon Five track sounds absolutely fuckin abysmal. Basically takes everything that's good about Pachelbel's Canon and makes it into an ungodly shit show
As much as I'm a fan of classical music (and would much rather listen to Pachelbel instead of Maroon Five), I would have to come to the defense of Maroon Five. It seems like a perfectly reasonable use of musical quotation, and for the purpose they were going for, I think it worked. One thing the video doesn't mention is that in these "rip offs", sometimes the point is for people to know what they're referring to. Maroon Five wasn't trying to be subtle about it because they were directly quoting Canon in D to illicit certain emotions. And you can't discount the addition of lyrics to a piece. I'd say that in and of itself is a significant change.
tl;dr - seems like fair play to me
yes but they died so nothing legally can hapen here
@@ryantjanzen I don't know, I feel like the integrity of Paschebel's piece has been taken away somewhat by its being used so blatantly in a pop song, maybe I'm just a music nerd, but I feel like Maroon V can't properly be given credit for effectively quoting it without taking into consideration the effect Canon in D has on an audience. By simplifying it, and melting it down to its bare bones, I feel like something has been taken away from it. Plus, Maroon V made money off that song, and didn't have to write half of it, which makes me feel as though it's unfair to simply call it a quotation, but, I do respect the attempt that was made.
Pop: Hey, Classical! Can I copy your homework?
Classical: Sure! Just change it a little.
u53mn
LOL!
I remember listening for the first time "Memories" by Maroon 5 with some friends and being like
"Dudes, thats literally Canon in D"
"Nah, I dont know what you talking 'bout"
"wHatChA mEaN? It'S LiTtEraLlY CaNOn and ThEy aRe GeTtInG aWay with IT!!"
Edit: typos
'The Hook' by Blues Traveller is a super clever Canon in D refference, they did it on purpose haha
Canon.
*canon* not cannon
And I'm like froggy dude, there are literally dozens and dozens (yeh like literally literally) of songs based on exactly pach's canon.
A number one hit in the seventies here in the Netherlands was: if I had words by Scott Fitzgerald and Yvonne Keeley. (Saint Saens)
Great song. Never hear these songs on the radio
Same Scott Fitzgerald that came 2nd in Eurovision (by 1 point!) with "Go" on 1988.
Based on Saint-Saens' Organ symphony no.3 - a fantastic piece of music.
14:00 - How ironic to call a song that's basically ripping off another piece of music "All By Myself"
Tell me about it
@@sergeirachmaninoff3209 LOl
Bruh😂
All By Myself (And the Estate of Rachmaninoff)
All byyyy myyyyselllf
I wrote this song
All byyyyy myyyyseeeeeeelf.
Billy Joel’s “This Night” uses the melody of Beethoven’s Pathetique Sonata. Joel even credits Beethoven as one of the songwriters.
I thought for sure he was going to mention This Night. One of my favorite songs. Maybe there'll be a Songs inspired by Beethoven video soon
I wish more song writers would follow Joel’s examples. I think it’s great to rework old melodies, but it bothers me that modern song writers don’t credit the old masters explicitly.
Thanks for mentioning this Billy Joel song. It's one of my all time favorites and brings back wonderful memories for me of my teenage years in the mid eighties.
Midnight blue Louise tucker....prettybstraightbforward
Thanks! Was just trying to remember which song was based on Pathetique!
"Music cannot be created nor can it be destroyed , rather it changes from one form to another"
Law of conservation
Reminds me of law of conservation
law of conservation of music
ATOM...
Just like energy.
I wish people wouldn't refer to it as 'ripping off'. Art is built on, inspired by, and imitated by other art. We stand on the shoulders of giants. And sometimes even the slightest change makes a world of difference. I understand why the title was chosen, though, and the video is excellent. I like how he even suggests basing new songs off of the old ones.
As for the songs, a couple of those are so obvious (incl. the first), I'd be ashamed if i hadn't immediately recognized them. The Green Day adaptation is less blatant though, and an excellent use of the progression.
Moral of the story: Listen classical music; it's great! :-)
No
Rock forever!!
@@edoardomonzali2682 no u
Boring
@@mrepix8287 Why is it boring?
When Memories and Cannon in D were playing in sync, it sounded awesome.
True
Better than either one. Although this might be skewed a bit by the fact that the canon is so overplayed, it doesn't seem as good as it is.
I want that version ngl
Need a full version
Check out One Voice Children Choir's version!
The melody of "Over the Rainbow" from "The Wizard of Oz" can be found in a composition by Pietro Mascagni -in his Overture to the opera "Guglielmo Ratcliff" this was written decades before the popular song.
I just listened to it and you are right! My goodness I wouldn't have ever known that if you hadn't posted. And he was still alive when the movie was released. Thanks.
@@vaughanmacegan4012 Another 2 examples are (1)The Beatles' song "Hey Jude" -the melody occurs in English composer'sJohn Ireland 1907 setting of the "Te Deum" a choral piece and the tune of the French national anthem "The Marsellais" occurs about 20 years earlier than the Roget d'Lisle 1791 song in a composition by the eminent Italian violinist and composer Viotti who worked largely in France and the UK
That (Canon in D) is my absolute FAVORITE classical piece of all time. So many "artists" have ripped it off over the years but the original will ALWAYS be the best.
The kids made me listen to "Memories", and I could hum along with it immediaty. They were astounded, and then I made them listen to Canon in D. Then they realised this classical music wasn't maybe so boring.
That's awesome, that's real education on music there!! Love that!!
But most people know them the other way round. That’s global success and what dreams are made of. Not as many people think of music as an art form, as in a geeky way. Musicians certainly don’t behave that way.
XD that’s amazing
That's awesome! Are you a music teacher? I am and the exact same thing hapend to me with my students.
Memories is boring
There’s a more obvious Elvis one- listen to “O Sole Mío” and “It’s Now or Never” back to back.
but it's a new version
the original songwriters are credited
dimitreze Did not realize. I noticed it a couple of months back because I ad lib songs to my dogs when I play with them. I was making up a parody of “O Sole Mío” and realized I was accidentally singing “It’s Now or Never”, LOL.
That’s from way more recent than 70 years ago
Do you know the 50's exercise show the Jack La Lanne Show? He sang off at the end of each show a note for note rip off of the O Sole Mio song.
A lot of Muse songs seem to have used classic bits, but I can't put my finger on it
Ever since Memories came out, I would tell my friends that it sounds like Canon in D & no one would hear it 😭
Same, I remember when electric guitar Canon in D was on the front-page of RUclips.
Tanisha Cruz SAME IT ANNOYS ME SO MUCH
Muggles, man 🤦🏻♀️
I LOOVEE Canon in D so naturally I fell in love with Memories immediately
Your friends are stupid. Get new ones.
"United States of Eurasia" by "Muse" has a piano solo that is clearly "Nocturne in Eb major" by Chopin.
So basically Phoebe Buffay can still go after Ariana Grande's 7 Rings.
😂
That's if Guns and Roses don't claim it as the riff from Paradise city.
Abdulrahman Alamoudi her production team most likely paid some sort of fee to writer before the song was aired
She also doesn’t use enough of it I think - you are allowed to use a small section as a sample
Wut? Can you elaborate a bit in which parts if each song you mean?
Pop musicians when they classical music: *•It’s free real estate•*
I too classical my music
ScrubKid
That...that’s essentially the joke.
ScrubKid
I assure you using nouns and adjectives as verbs is often used a form of cheap humor to emit a more juvenile tone. It’s not even new, literature has done this for centuries. Why’re so pedantic?
ScrubKid
I respect your interpretation, but I reckon there’s enough real estate to say otherwise ( ✧≖ ͜ʖ≖)
ScrubKid
Is a high school vocabulary really perplexing?
Hendrix's music in 2040: *enters public domain*
Hip-hop artists: "it's free real estate!"
Hendrix samples will be very interesting
damn hendrix samples in song would be intriguing. return of psychedelic rock?
@@larlluiz5902 Hahahahaha, they're gonna make generic beats for fake rappers to vomit nonsense on the mic on, and you know it damn well.
What will be funny is that many of Mr. Hendrix's better tunes were 'remakes/ rehashes' of other artists - most notably Bob Dylan - and last I checked, he's still alive, so the PD won't hit until at least 2090, so many of those 'free real estate' artists will get screwed for said attempts... Brilliant!!
Some guy mashed up Wu tang and Hendrix sounds dope: soundcloud.com/oliver-nielsen-2/02-wu-tang-jimi-hendrix-house
Freddie Mercury was a massive opera fan. In 1988 he made a whole album, “Barcelona”, with operatic diva Montserrat Caballé. She adored his personality, raved about his musicianship, and sang at his funeral. Look up the music video for “Barcelona”! 😊
Billy Joel used the second movement of Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata for the chorus of This Night. He was considerate enough to credit the composer on the jacket of his Innocent Man LP as "L.v. Beethoven."
To be expected. Billy Joel is a proper musician.
Louise Tucker’s “Midnight Blue” is completely based on that second movement of Sonata Pathetique by Beethoven as well.
It's not the best Billy Joel song, but probably the tune that runs through my head most often because of this fact.
Joel's a BIG Beethoven fan.
Ok, so basically I've been listening to classical music all these years, without realising.
you were if you watched cartoons.
Not a bad thing. I think it's quite fun.
Ok, so basically I've been listening to pop all these years, without realising.
@@jackoneill8654 Kill da wabbit, kill da wabbit! Or Woody Woodpecker playing Hungarian Rhapsody while going around a curve at 90 mph or. . . .
So the MoBo’s should be renamed MoBo,oCCo’s!?
Elvis' "Now Or Ever" is "O sole mio". Also some bandleader in the Swing Era had a hit, "My Reverie" which used Debussy's "Reverie" as its foundation.
I make better songs lol
Frank Frank dubussy
If you think about it, it’s becoming harder and harder to write completely new, unused and unsampled melodies and tunes with how many songs have been created
Train’s “play that song” is a rip off of “heart and soul”
Heart and soul is not classical
@@aetheriality5680 It's still an old song that was ripped off. Technically not legally, since the composer, Hoagy Carmichael, died in 1981.
@@collectionmaster I understand but this is specifically about classical music, and it didn't seem @darude90 knew that
pretty sure it's more of an homage
The writer of "play that song" recieved permission to use the infamous "heart and soul" melody.
I felt like I've heard 'memories' before maybe it was a 2000's song turns out randomly listening to classical music helped me
Sounds like forever young
@@CloudDustProductions absolutely
It kinda sounds like freaks
Spice girls
Off the top of my head:
"Don't You Know?" by Della Reese - “Musetta’s Waltz”) from Puccini’s La Bohème
"Russians" by Sting - Romance theme from Prokofiev's Lieutenant Kijé Suite by Sergei
"This Night" by Billy Joel - second movement of Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata.
David Perkins Night of Fear by the Move (1967) uses War of 1812 Overture
Yeah, the Billy Joel song simply sets words to the Beethoven Pathetique.
"Carmen" by Stromae - "Habanera" from Carmen
Well, I would rather call the song a dedication to Bizet... The song title is.. kinda.. obvious? ^^
Except Prokofiev didn’t die until the 1950s so Sting most likely had to pay
"Same Auld Lang Syne" was based off of "The 1812 Overture." "American Tune" from Paul Simon was based off the chorale from Bach's "St. Matthew's Compassion." This was also used as the tune for a Christian hymn, "Oh Sacred Head Now Wounded." Perry Como's "Catch a Falling Star" uses one of the themes from Brahm's, "Academic Festival Overture." Neil Diamond's "Song Sung Blue" is loosely based on the second movement of Mozart’s Piano Concerto #21. Toni Wine and Carol Bayer Sager borrowed from the Rondo movement of Clementi’s Sonatina in G major, op. 36 no. 5 to come up with this hit, “A Groovy Kind of Love.” My brother and I did a radio show for several years and once did a show called "Classical Classics" which featured these and other songs, including "Whiter Shade of Pale."
St. Matthew's Passion
@@GinaWrightHawkins Ah, autocorrect.. and incomplete proofreading.
Burns wrote auld lang syne around the 1780's . Tchaikovsky wrote the 1812 about 100 years later
@@paulsmart5199 Hi Paul. You might want to re-read the first sentence. It's "SAME Auld Lang Syne," written by Dan Fogelberg in 1980, not "Auld Lang Syne." You thought you had me, but you were too quick to pull the trigger. 🙂
@@normanwhite6677 it's all good, I wasnt sure if it was a typo is all
When I was growing up my dad listened to various music and a couple of his favorites were Mozart and Rachmaninoff. When I got a job of my own I went out and bought several classical albums and one was Piano Concerto #2 by Rachmaninoff. I was also listening to popular music and went out and bought Eric Carmen's self titled album. I was playing "All By Myself" when right in the middle in the piano solo I said I have heard this before. I jumped up and got my Rachmaninoff album and played it. Not only was it the same tune the piano solo of "All By Myself" was practically note for note. I felt great that I recognized it. I feel that popular musicians can influence the youth to listen to the classical composers and I have no problem with them using the great composers' music.
I think my dad and your dad sound very similar!! (but he also loved the beatles etc.)
There's a Muse song called Space Dementia that uses one of Rachmaninoff's melodies (I believe it might be Piano Concerto #2 but don't quote me on that it could be a different piece) as the melody of the vocal part of the chorus!
Carmen (or perhaps it was his record company) was prosecuted by Rachmaninoff's heirs, as Rachmaninoff had not been dead for 7v years when "All by myself" was released. Disgraceful behaviour all around. Carmen for not crediting Rachmaninoff, and the copyright owners for going after him.
When I saw Eric Carme's sheet music it bothered me that there was no mention of Rachmaninoff.
I had a similar experience but I heard the song that used an classical song as an inspiration before. I'm a huge football fan so I know the UEFA Champions League hymn. When my mother sang zadok the priest by Händl, I said I know this song. And after googling a bit I found that the hymn really used Zadok the priest. My mind was really blown.
There’s taking the chords, then there’s taking the whole melody and getting rid of a few notes.
I see no problem with that, but Maroon 5 should've at least provided attribution to the original, perhaps in the title, for those who think they were trying to get away with something (which I don't, they knew everyone would know what they were doing which is part of the reason they did it).
Who cares? Just you fools who act like the classics are yours
@@vb8428 that is not what I'm saying lol. It's the lack of creativity in modern music
Jimmy Alderson the perfect comment
@@emperorjimmu9941 I agree 100%.
Wow, the amount of detail, and work into this is amazing. The clarity, the depth of understanding needed to put something like this is top notch. And then you have the video making ability to put it into a tutorial, just incredible. Subscribed!
Ironic that a video about 'repurposing' music has to use a cover to avoid a copyright strike.
The greatest irony is that the record companies’ attempt to control the copyright of their music in order to make music is stopping people like me telling others how great that music is and thus making them money!
Funny thing is, prior to 1973 in the USA you could only copyright the sheet music, not the sound recording... that’s why the Stairway to Heaven case jury never actually listened to the songs in question, just compared the sheet music!
@@DavidBennettPiano And they want to extend the copyrights as long as possible. If they get their way copyright would never expire.
@@DavidBennettPiano I have wondered if you would be able to contact the companies to put that case to them? Same with Rick Beato and his "What makes this song great... " series. You are selling the record for them, so they should pay you for advertising...
@gljm99 So, true.
Good artists copy, great artists steal. - Pablo Picasso.
Ok but these artists suck balls and Picasso doesn't listen to maroon 5
when the hell did he say this? lmao
This is a somewhat known quote in the art community
Spongebob Man SS I shouldn’t have laughed so hard at this
@@namanjames4 Lol, thanks
Billy Joel’s “This Night” is aka second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata.. but Billy Joel credited Beethoven as a songwriter for it...
And the second movement of Ludwig van Beethoven's Pathétique Sonata is taken from the secont motif in secone movement of Mozart piano sonata, I think it is K472.
Also Kiss used it on "Great Expectations" form Destroyer
BUT, to his credit, Billy Joel actually credited Beethoven on the album cover!
That is respect. An acclaimed artist is accredited to a maestro
Beat me to it
ruclips.net/video/2Uz7KMVUEH4/видео.html
Don't know if anyone has mentioned this but - borrowing from classical music certainly existed in the Big Band era. The most famous is Benny Goodman's Let's Dance which the melody is adapted from Invitation to the Dance by Carl Maria von Weber. No copyright issues, as that piece was written in 1819.
Lots of people call classical works "songs," when they're "pieces." It warms my heart to see someone not getting it confused.
The ones that are ripped off are actually songs.
Piece is the generic term. It's a song when someone is singing, an instrumental otherwise.
@@Danmashinigamikuro "Piece" is a form of abuse. It means "we're classical musicians and we don't want to associate with people who call their music songs".
Say you have "Yesterday" by the Beatles and you cover it without vocals. Does it stop being a song? No. Say you have a "choral piece" and people are singing. Are you calling it a song? No.
A song is something with a good and strong melody. Songs are difficult to write. They are an important art form that classical musicians want to denigrate with the term, "piece". I prefer the term "track" or "work". "Ode to Joy" is a song embedded in a symphony. "Toccata and Fugue" is a song. "Piece" is nothing more than a hundreds year old bullshit branding exercise.
@@sieteocho "Piece" is the generic term for a musical composition. "Track" means a recorded piece (such as on an album).
Songs are sung, hence their name. If there is no one singing, it isn't a song, it is an instrumental.
If a piece is originally sung, then covering it without vocals doesn't stop it from being a song. The cover wouldn't be one, however (in which case it would be called an instrumental cover. That's actually the term people use when they do an instrumental cover of a song, lol).
The only abuse (and bullshit) I see here comes from you, wanting to change the meaning of words you don't like because they hurt your fragile little feelings.
I would strongly advise you read a dictionary.
@@Danmashinigamikuro No shit. I thought that composition is the generic term for a composition.
Not all classical music is "songs". But the ones that pop music would want to rip off are all songs. By and large, there is a discipline about pop music, whereby if there isn't a melody that grabs your attention immediately, you're out. The CD player goes to another track. The spotify listener goes to the next one. Pop music is honest about this: the tracks that get skipped over is called "filler".
Whereas for classical music, no such honesty exists. There's plenty of space between the recognisable themes. Some of it is good. A lot of it is "it ain't over till the fat lady sings". As in, you just have to sit there with a grin while the orchestra noodles on and pretend you appreciate it.
It's true that pop music wants to emulate some of classical music, but let's be honest, it's a terribly small portion of it. The small part which deserves to be called "songs".
Yoko Ono: *plays moonlight sonata*
John Lennon: Good, now play it backwards
Yoko: Doesn't play it backwards
John: That's great!
Yoko to Self: He so dumb.
John to Self: She's not too bright, isn't it? Ha ha! Got me a new song!
@@alukuhito Because why?
@@alukuhito lol
Because beatles
Glad its mentioned, didnt know it would sound good backwards. Piano though, or guitar, we all practice forwards and backwards. Maybe it was originally written backwards and now Yoko has corrected it....oooh lifes good
What I’m hearing is... in the year 2040 we’re gonna have a lot of bangers 👍🏼
This is the only comment that matters
Disney won’t allow it.
The Hook by Blues Traveler is Canon in D. It's intentionally like that, it seems, since the lyrics are based on the lack of perception of the modern music audience.
it's essentially just Canon in D with him going "it doesn't matter what I say, as long I sing with inflection..." .... just explaining easy it easy to write a pop song.
I love it!
But what about Billy Joel’s “This Night”?? The chorus is EXACTLY the the same as the slow movement of Beethoven’s Pathétique sonata. Note for note.
And he credits Beethoven in the liner notes.
SmashedB Yes - I wasn’t suggesting that Joel didn’t acknowledge that it was totally a Beethoven tune. Just pointing out that it IS totally a Beethoven tune.
@@TheRealPaulCaplin Of course. I was also suggesting that, unlike some artists, I believe Billy not only stated it on the album cover, I think over the years he's been pretty open about the fact that it was a direct "steal" on his part...that it was more or less a tribute to his favorite composer. :-)
Also, the entire album is in various older styles, of days when classical themes were often borrowed for pop songs. ("Hot Diggity" is just Chabrier's España re-done.)
There's a saying, "Music is an endless cycle; it never gets old"
Now seeing this, I actually believe it now. Music evolves to what the public demands. But at the end of the day, its still the same.
Spoiler alert: everyone rips off Pachelbel's Canon.
Just ask Rob Paravonian
@@Tensen01 Beat me to it.
Perfect by Ed Sheeran used it. I like it though.
there is a Christmas song that does a pachabel in D version . I forget which song it is right now. if you asked 2 months ago I would remember
@@Johnadams20760 Probably Christmas Canon by Trans-Siberian orchestra.
You certainly have a great ear (intonation too, ha ) and a great repetoir with which to refer. Sometimes, those who were trained in classical standards, subconsciously come up with "copied " melodies. Most writers today take pride in their originality...but I, myself caught myself basing a love song on the same three notes, utilized by Willie Nelson. He had a song I'd never heard before, titled " She's Gone." Mine is titled " Don't Let me be Lonely Tonight" (as a solo as well as a duo with Fred Gold.) I found later that Willie, had "apparently" taken the same Dminor and first three chords from the classical also. SO, BOTH Willie and I are apparently to blame for "hearing and writing" those in our songs! BTW MY " Don't Let me be Lonely Tonight' is NOTHING like James Taylor's and was written two years prior to his.
UNINTENTIONAL sometimes, INTENTIONAL...NOT me. I'd always admit if I "rearranged" something, and don't ever consider it "copying."
Sincerely,
LyndaFayeSmusic@Yahoo&Bandcamp
"One Enchanted Evening, I Found an Old Friend." in French & Italian by Ana Marie Ceuca.
Google doesn't have an ear, so they first zeroed in on the first three words, and never considered the rest of the title.) ORIGINAL
You forgot about Ariana Grande's "7 rings", wich is almost a direct copy of "my favourite things" from The sound of Music
LuluNat it’s credited to the original writers, Rodgers and Hammerstein so there is no copyright infringement there.
@@Merche74 Oh, I didn't know. Thank you :)
LuluNat also my favourite things isn’t classical music...
@Ceci hi
@Ceci looooooong hows urs?
Literally every song in this video sound better when the classical song is played together in the sane key.
I fully agree!!
The original is always the best!
Nicholas Lawrence to be fair, the original isnt always best, but god these pop songs are so shit because they only simplify it without adding their own twist.
A whiter shade of pale is still a classic, even if it does have the poxiest lyrics. One of sixteen vestal virgins who were leaving for the coast. What?!!!
Great point. The original adds more emotion and depth.
The one with „it’s a hard life“ actually doesn’t surprise me too much because Freddie loved opera and classic music so much (I mean you can already tell I guess lmao)
And it was credited like that.
Jeez lo weez
There's also a difference between a "rip off" and a short "citation" that is meant as a homage. Classical composers have been doing the latter for centuries.
yeah and fred actually knew he was using the opera, not ripping it off without knowing akshsjak
R.I.P. Eric Carmen today 12-03-24. Hope he and Rach can settle their pending issues amicably in the beyond. 😢
Spiritualized’s song “Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space” is very clearly based on Canon in D, but it’s just used so absolutely beautifully. It’s my favorite love song ever. In the right hands you can do amazing things with some of these older classical pieces. It all depends on what you do with it, just like any of the classic chords for pop, rock, etc.
I think that they took one of the most powerful pieces of music and made it better, it's so beautiful and haunting. I remember the first time I had ever heard it, my wife and I were hot boxing her car and I was playing random music and all of a sudden Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space came on. It floored us both. That's how you recycle the music from the past tastefully.
i LOVE that song ugh
And let's not forget the piano break from "In My Life" by the Beatles, also based on Canon in D.