@@lurker6918 The producers and radio stations were straight up trying to make rock and roll more palatable to white people by having white people sing it. It was never NOT about race. You could say that it wasn't malicious, but it was definitely racist.
The worst ripoff of all time is Johnny B. Goode by Chuck Berry. It’s definitely a classic but it was completely 100% ripped off of Johnny Be Good by a lesser know artist called Marty McFly
And Brian Wilson copped the melody of Chuck Berry's Sweet Little 16 for the Beach Boys' "Surfin USA". After a lawsuit threat, the record label gave Chuck songwriting credit.
the question then becomes who did Marty McFly rip off , I've heard a guitar player for Hank Williams who play a live solo that sounded like a Chuck Berry solo but it was 5-6 years earlier .
And most of the time the lawsuits are by big production companies who didn't have anything to do with the writing of the song, and didn't give the original writers a say.
Sam Willee Music e x a c t l y. Or family estates of the original artists (looking at you Marvin Gaye’s relatives). What’s frustrating too is if Marvin Gaye were alive, he wouldn’t be even trying to sue other artists
I don't agree. Every one of these examples in this video were blatant obvious rip offs not just "inspired". Seems like most of the groups didn't pursue legal action because they in turn had also stolen their songs from even earlier works. Love how all of you people excusing the theft and blaming the "jewry" have all never had a real hit song stolen. Real easy to feel that way when you've never had an art of substance you've labored over stolen. (And no.. whatever BS example you're about to give of your worthless unknown art being expropriated and you not caring doesn't count.. because it's worthless. )
For me, Andrew Lloyd Webber "ripping off" Pink Floyd's Echoes for the iconic Phantom of the Opera theme stands out - the bassist said "It’s the same time signature, and it’s the same structure, and it’s the same notes, and it’s the same everything. Bastard." then moved on with his life. 😂
Listen to Petty's Breakdown and then listen to The Animals Cheatin'... sure sounds like Petty was "inspired" to me (it's even thematically similar songs) so he'd be a hypocrite about suing people who have ripped him off.
@@JuliusGalacki Oh fuck off Tom Petty is a musical genuis and comes up with his own brilliant music. The reason he doesn't sue people is because he's just a cool guy, which you would know if you actually cared to learn about him.
@@chadlurie9447 It was the record company not Tom Petty, and both Smith ad Petty say they have no hard feelings "things like that happen". If you did ay research you would know that, so next time you try calling someone out get your facts right
When we say "One Direction" or "enter band pop group here ______" what we really mean is their producers, who coincidentally have usually been in the music business for 20+ years
You've got to respect the musicians who made the decision themselves not to pursue any lawsuits, not only that but defending and supporting the artists accused of copying them. That is really heartwarming.
They allowed it because they knew their own lifting of other’s music wouldn’t stand the harsh light of scrutiny. If you created something truly original, you would resent it if someone stole it, profited on it, and didn’t credit you. And you would be right to resent it. There’s no “honor” in allowing someone to steal from you. That’s just a personal decision.
He does parodies of famous songs..so it would be the other way around...he gets permission though..if Wierd Al parody your song then you know u have definitely made it. He rocks..😆😎👍
True musicians know that they all just make their versions of the same old song. Just like novel authors tell essentially the same story differently all the time, because the motifs that drive us have been the same since the dawn of humanity. Also, if you wrote a classic and it has made you a wealthy person, you don't need to worry about a boyband making a cheap rehash of your classic. You can be confident that your version is more likely to be the one that's remembered in history. Just like already nobody talks about Midnight Memories without mentioning its similarities to Pour Some Sugar On Me, which will probably stay on air longer than the 80's kids will stay on this planet for.
@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 I know man, I can see from here the room full of suits, lawyers and corporates talking about what song to plagiate. I made the joke knowing full well the producers stole everything purposefully.
Wilson Henley> Yup, that's the music industry. Creativity and originality mean very little. it's all about what sells, sells sells. Just steal songs from the more successful and creative artists so your no-talent plastic fabrications can make a hit out of them. Does that sound like I'm bitter? I've been in several bands and believe me, if you're different and actually original sounding, you'll be told by the record execs to change into something more commercial or give up. They want clones of shit that made money before.
@@Ploulaf I agree, or even: "music is not so vast - only a couple of chords available for everybody. Let's not be complete assholes." or better: "we don't give a f**k," I could see also: "who is One Directwhat?!"
And people have been spiting him ever since. To the point he's not allowed to use the whiteist white or the blackest black (which outdoes his). Copyrighting colors is stupid. I find it particularly silly for the BBC who somehow copyrighted or trademarked the shade of blue they used for the TARDIS.
You know there's an app where it detects plagiarism? This is today's world. Stop being an unoriginal. When I found that out... 🤯 Whoa 😦. Good thing I don't steal. But that's hw
I am glad that you put Taxman with Start!! I actually love that bass riff. I had both of those songs the Beatles and the Jam. I knew that the Jam copied it but it still sounds great.
This guy actually understands what Green Day was doing.. Taking music that inspired them when they were younger and making something to honor those older melodies
The problem isn't that there are only so many notes/chords to play, but rather there are only a few that are chosen in pop music. It's so limited and formulaic that it's impossible not to create music that isn't substantially similar to something someone else wrote in that genre. It's hard to claim innocence if you copy prog rock, but it's hard to avoid infringement in pop rock. Moreover, the internet and technology allows everyone to publish everything they've ever done, meaning there's tons of material out there. I doubt, for example, that Katy Perry was even aware of the song she supposedly infringed, but because the copyright was registered, she's deemed to be on constructive notice of it. Copyright law needs serious reform.
This reminds me of a story about a conversation between Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie. Dylan was supposed to be a good singer (of that style) and wanted to be able to write songs. Guthrie advised him just to take some old songs that he liked and change the notes and the words.
That was certainly the tradition in folk music, to take old melodies and add new lyrics, or just record old songs that had no copywriter claim What gets me, though, is how stridently Bob Dylan goes after people who borrow from his songs. It's hypocritical, insofar as he did it all the time.
nonsense. In research you must display, which author you are refering to. If you dont do that and you get caught, you may loose your degree. Thats very different from music business, where you just pay money.
The worst I’ve seen is when the company that bought the rights to CCR’s music sued John Fogerty because his new music sounded similar to the stuff he wrote while in CCR.
I think it's more about the label than the artists themselves. I believe most of these are under universal music. Would be different though if a young aspiring artist would be sampling them.
Nina Paley gave a Ted talk in which she asserted that all of this ip was stopping everyone from being able to THINK freely while creating, so I had a musician friend of mine listen to it, and he admitted to staying away from working on songs if they had anything from anything else in them…but he was astounded to consider how much that *limited his thinking*
I miss Petty so much. I am a huge fan of live music. And I never got to see him live. I was sad when he died, he has some of the best chill music. I might be the grim reaper. If George Thorogood dies it’s my fault. I’ve never seen him live either. And he’s next on my list.
@@steliokontos8364 I miss him go. He's awesome. They need to clone him. I never seen Ozzy or Dylan and both are still somehow alive. I don't think it's your fault if people die without seeing them.
@@charlesbelville5090 No. He had to pay a settlement and has to continue to split profits with them 50/50 to this day. He lied about buying the rights just like he tried to lie about ripping them off in the first place.
Yeah Noel's a notorious magpie... he even ripped of t rex get it on which is maybe one of the most recognised rock riffs in history...he does it well though... cigarettes and alcohol is a great track but he wouldn't have a song without that riff that's for sure
I was dumbfounded myself with all the comments and no mention of Oasis - Imagine/Don't Look Back in Anger, How Sweet to Be an Idiot/Whatever (sued for that one by Neil Innes!) and many, many more.
A friend of mine was going to see him at Bottle Rock and invited me along. I had some stuff going on in my life and decided to put it off until the next year. Then we lost Petty... I regret that to this day. I've loved his music for decades.
Some people here must remember George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" sounding a bit too much like "He's So Fine," recorded by the Chiffons. George lost that lawsuit.
Yup, I always thought this was the most egregious rip off I’d ever heard. Harrison essentially stole the whole song, progression and melody, even back up singers.
I listened to it and the one similarity I heard was the chord progression, I guess David Bowie’s estate should sue the hollies because Space Oddity used the chord progression first
I hate to say this but one of queen's songs sounded like a song from billy joel. from what i heard, he seeked legal action against the band, but couldn't prove they plagiarized. same thing with led zeppelin. spirit could not prove they plagiarized stairway, and that's why they won their case. Led zeppelin created and originated all their own music, just like queen did. because led zeppelin was the biggest band in the world, other artists were so jealous of them and their success, they would say just about anything to try and wreck them. Pete Townsend from the who said he couldn't stand led zeppelin because he said "they were bigger than the Who". is that a reason to punch Jimmy in the face for it? absolutely not! that's childish. I like both zeppelin and queen, but I can't stand zeppelin being picked on just for taking influence from others. they did not plagiarize anything. queen is a good band as well, but they were not saintly or perfect anymore than zeppelin was. both were original and talented in their own ways. Nirvana however, was notorious for plagiarism. no wonder kirk killed himself. he was in such hot water legally from all the lawsuits
It is not about the chords, because it is the same 3 chords that make up 70% of the songs. It is more about composition as a whole. One Direction - Midnight Memories is 100% plagiarism. Starting a song with E D G or the blues progression is influence, taking a melody and chords note by note and changing words is plagiarism.
@@93ChristopherC he originally won and Katy Perry had the decision rightfully overturned. Completely speculating but I’m willing to bet the judge who issued the first verdict was religious. The precedent that he nearly set with that first verdict would’ve been a huge problem for basically any musician who had ever published music. So yeah, people cared a lot. Don’t be so willfully ignorant.
@@redeadhead4 Your comment is irrelevant and ineffective. Especially when you start your statement by admitting that you are completely speculating. Yet, it remains, who cares that he is still being refered to as the "Christian rapper", it doesn't matter. In fact, the op referred to him as the "Christian rapper" in his comment. Read it again. The comment is towards his reference of name not the actions of his person. Even further, the op not only refers to him as "the Christian rapper" but he also goes on to speculate that he did it for attention. I'll say it again, and for the last time. Who cares? If you do, at least learn the name so you can take all your speculations and attempt to properly bash somebody.
Such a petty attempt to scrutinize one who lives their life by a particular compass of moral. Its any Americans right to make a statement on the light of justice, if he or she truly does believe.
As soon as I heard Dodgy I said "Yo, Don't Fear the Reaper." Let's face it, the one suing is poor; the one sued made a crapload of cash. Petty didn't need the money. I also believe him about hating lawsuits.
You realize that Petty also knows what it’s like to get sued, right? Look up the history of Tom Petty battling MCA Records. That is why Petty didn’t go after the RHCP’s.
@@fractalez letting it be known people claim these bands to be the best rock bands of all time but they rip everyone off for me its pink Floyd or the eagles
It's pretty much impossible not to step on someone else's toes these days. Music variations are finite, especially in the same genre, and as time rolls on the more crowded it all becomes.
That true, but what record companies are doing these days is that there are like ten people who write all these songs and they take the popular songs of the past mash them together and there you go. It's not they they are inspired, they are stealing and rearranging to avoid lawsuits. When the rock artists use the same chord progressions that's one thing, when there are multiple songs choruses mashed together it's an intentional act of stealing and trying not to get caught.
When you say finite, are you talking permutations? Because there’s 6 ways to write 1,2,3 in any order. Considering there are so many notes with so many octaves and so many instruments with so many strings, how many permutations or combinations of melodies with varying instruments could we possibly have?
@@Toasty283 there's only twelve notes with over 70 million songs on Amazon Music alone and don't forget that the ways you can arrange these twelve notes is heavily limited by what we hear as coherent and pleasent. The theory behind which has been discovered and written down centuries ago. It's like a language, except much more limited (English has 26 letters, more than double the amount of basic characters and no limit to how big of a word you can create out of them. The size of a Chord, however is limited by the instrument and/or the range of human hearing), yet I've never heard of authors suing each other over using the same concept&structure of their story or using the same idioms, syntax or even just the same words...
and you only have so many chords and notes to use another song that sounds like another at the end of it Brown Eyed Handsome Man by Buddy Holly, and the instrumental Tequila
That's true, but Ice ice crappy follows the Under Pressure's baseline note for note. Oh wait, except that one beat at the end that makes it totally different. Riiiight....Smh
@@MyNutcake MC Hammer cleared the Super Freak sample appropriately, and was even spoken highly of by Rick James himself; Vanilla Ice, on the other hand, did not purchase the rights and was sued by Queen. It's all cleared up now, but it ruined Ice's career.
Almost 40 years ago when I was 18, I wrote the coolest melody for guitar. I played it for my friends who were amazed at my talent, even my Parents loved it. Everyone who heard it thought it was great. Then I played it for my Sister who told me it was the Aerosmith song "No more no more". Damn, she was right! I didn't mean to do it. I only heard that song a couple times and here I was about to take credit for it. I thought I was great, but I was just a copycat. We all learn from the guitarists that came before us, but I nailed this almost note for note and had no clue.
When my older brother was at school in the 70's ,him and a schoolmate made a cassette demo of 5 songs he had written. When he played it to me 10 years later when I was collecting old records , I pointed out his "Endless Night" was "Death of a Clown" by Dave Davies from 1966 !
@@NomNomBlankey I would like to hear it again too. In the late 80's I made another 2 copies but unfortunately due to divorces , house moves and wotnot since then , neither of can find a copy! Funny , we can both still remember the songs well enough to perform them 😊
I think when music just comes into someone's mind it could be them just remembering it. At that point they may or may not make the association. However, much like dreams are often inspired by recent and past memories sometimes I think music is an amalgam of past memories of music. I believe dreams are to save space and / or make retrieving memory and experiences more efficient. If music can be created this way it would mean "Yesterday" famously dreamt by McCartney is just some music more efficiently stored in his mind...
@@74Jupiter I suspected this, i.e. memory is a set of rules for reconstructing past experiences, a kind of "lossy file" with codecs. I've heard and read neuroscientists say eye witness accounts are the worst form of evidence in a trial for that reason.
@@anthonynorton666 I would guess senses being processed efficiently = evolution advantage. Visual probably most complex i.e. not getting eaten by Leopard. Therefore probably lots of short cuts and filling in the gaps. Exact face recreation not that important. No point us remembering whether a leopard has or has not changed its spots.
Exactly, I feel like I'd spend days making something up, publish it, then get shat on by the public for having something similar to a song I'd never heard before
That happened to me once. I'm by no means a songwriter, I just dabble for my own amusement. One time I was in a daze as I had found this really cool chord combination. It lasted two days, then I started singing the lyrics to another song (forgotten which one) and I was like "damn, scratch that one then".
Pretty stupid for a kiddy boy band to copy such geniuses considering they don't even write the songs. They were too young to know the originals or had any say in it anyway. Obviously their little kiddie bopper fans were clueless too.
Thank you for the spot-on assessment of what copyright is SUPPOSED to be used for! For those of you who want to re-hear what I am referring to, begin at 13:44. The exact relevant statement is at 14:12 or so.
Same here. There were enough differences that it was clearly not ripping off anything. Basic pop chords don't belong to anyone, and multiple of then have admitted to loving classic rock, so influence is going to happen.
@@axeanimation2417 That's your opinion. I honestly doubt you've heard more than 5 one direction songs to know whether you like some of their music or not.
Aguest That last remark is a rather flawed argument: you’re saying you can’t have an opinion on a band or performer unless you know all their work? With 5 songs Grace can form a well-based opinion if she likes the style in which onedirection ‘tributes’ other people’s actual creative work And I think it’s rather obvious onedir. is simply another boyband: fabricated in a marketing lab, members picked to appeal to different groups of girls, not much time and money wasted on actual creative work: just rip some classics and turn them into catchy tunes using a standard formula (not even done by the ‘band’ itself) - songs’ popularity only needs to last a few months (you just systematically poop a new one out at given intervals to keep ticket and merchandise sales going) and it leaves the budget for the marketing, which is the real popularity driver
The actual members of the band didn’t have a lot of say in the first three albums they made. It wasn’t until the last two that the boys were really involved in the writing process. Which is why their last two albums are arguably the best.
There’s a reason why Beyoncé’s “Lemonade” has over 40 writers credits. Every single influence that she has and uses, she credits the person. From a beat to a tweet, she credits.
Radiohead borrowed that same exact chord progression from a Hollies song, and they credited them for it. So for them to sue Lana for using something that they stole from another song wouldn’t make sense
One "rip-off" I've always found pretty funny was the way the Beach Boys put out Surfin' USA as essentially a cover of Chuck Berry's Sweet Little Sixteen, but with different lyrics and a different feel (i.e. giving Berry a writing credit). I just love that Brian Wilson must have been like: Oh this melody slaps. I can absolutely do better on the lyrics tho
Not really. Music is dynamic and it's the expression that matters. Theoretically music is endless. You don't look at a painting and think "I've this seen shade of red and blue before, jeez art is getting stale". We only have so many colours, we only have so many sounds, but the results are endless
During my time at Bath College, I wrote a little piano tune and worked it into one of my songs. About five years later, I heard that piano bit in a hip hop tune on the radio. I never made any money out of my music, so I just smiled and said to a friend who was there: "Hey I wrote that. Nice to hear it's out there now." :)
You mean that the main chorus sounds similar, every other part of the song is completely different, the instrumental is completely different, the tempo is different and it's played on a different instruments? Striking!
True Story ; Many years ago I was talking to Tony Mcauley who at that time had a chart hit with "Blame it on the Pony Express' (1970) and I suggested to him (politely) that surely it was a rip-off from "Simple Simon Says" (1968). To my surprise he said quite candidly that, yes, it was a tried and test way of making money, i.e., copy a hit, get a new hit, when the lawyers ring say either you can pull the song and no one makes any money, or let it roll and they would split the profits. And they usually accept the 50%.
They were unabashedly highly processed canned commercial music. They took classic songs, knocked them off with a group of young guys with fresh faces, and thus pandered to the teens they wanted to make their money off of. This isn't to say the band members don't have talent, they just didn't work with originality. Take a look at the old 'boy bands' of the 90s, and you can figure maybe 20% of the band will move on to make a real music career, and start to make anything like original music.
Chaz Martin no, i meant you have no clue of music at all. Of course they have similarities, because they both played by instruments. And the music of the 50s is the most simple music ever. I could not name one unique riff or solo from a 50s song, because they were plain. Rock music has memorable riffs, but it has the basics, which are relatable to the 50s music.
@@Matolcsibenedek I’ve been a musician for 40 years. I’ve been an engineer/producer since 1988. I’ve played classical, Funk, and Jazz and R&B. I’ve played on nationally released songs and I’ve worked in Detroit, Nashville, NYC, and London. I have more than a clue.
@@nathanrocks2562 considering they were sued over it by a band named Spirit over their song Taurus...so there is that. Besides Jimmy Page has been notoriously pointed out for "borrowing" more that his share of other peoples music...look it up, its not hard to find.
@@ericmccoy5038 yes I have heard and read about it. I was referring to the line specifically about all that glitters is gold. It's a classic pun, but not stolen from another band
This is actually a fun exercise to do if you’re trying to get into writing music. You take a song you like and use all of the same notes and change a little bit of the rhythm and switch up the progressions to create a new song that generally sounds decent.
Ooooo I am trying to get into music, I would do this… but I came here trying to get over the panic of accidentally creating a melody in an F# minor song that sounds a whole lot like the beginning of Carrie Underwood’s Before He Cheats. I want to sort that out before intentionally copying something else ahahaha
@@infor99 Yeah, I bet someone could find a similar short section of music in even older classical, country, blues, etc. Killing Joke and Nirvana are such creative bands that it's hard to imagine them needing to copy anyone.
Nirvana stole the riff From Killing Joke Killing Joke stole the riff From garden of delight Garden of delight stole the riff From The damned That's what happens when you eat too much beans.
I enjoy David's analyses of music more than almost any other commentator's: he gives just the right amount of info and detail, without going on and on and on as so many others do.
As gay as a daffodil that was insane added an extra note and now it's a totally different song smh.... rock music Bowie and mercury wrote that together Queen rocks now Queen+ Adam Lambert that's a different story
oh my god! I remember when a load of these one direction songs came out and I was convinced that their writers were trying to catch kids by giving the songs a kind of 'I've heard this before but I don't know where' factor, and then they would associate those songs with one direction. CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!!!1!!
@@verucasalt9182 Not true at all. In every case I've seen, the actual artist has claimed to write these songs. Usually, when the songs are written for them, the songwriting credits reflect that. These artists are simply trying to copy a song's elements and pass them off as their own.
Evan Fiend one direction is a. Manufactured boy band that came out of a tv program . Don’t give them so much credit . Many of them rich kids with very little talent of their own but somehow they hit the rest of their lives sorted because they were “ chosen”.
Samples don't count, as they are literally snippets of the original track - so by definition they cannot fall into influence or plagiarism categories. See MC Hammer/Rick James.
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❗ PLEASE NOTE: I've had to remove two of the Green Day examples in from this video due to copyright strikes (I know... ironic)
This is a really well made video. Very informative! You definitely deserve more subs!
@@ShadowLinkX37 Thank you!
Which Green Day songs?
@@balecbird7641 21 guns and boulevard of broken dreams
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Don't forget about how twinkle twinkle little star clearly ripped off ABC
Daniel M But the original melody is from W.A.Mozart so...
and Baa Baa Black Sheep
And Somebody That I Used To Know
fatgirlballet just about to say that!
Am in the only one who is saying these songs in melody? Like baa baa black sheep, twinkle twinkle, abcd 😅😅
one direction is reeeeal lucky most classic rock artists are such cool people
Yep that shit is pretty shameless and I LIKE songs that are inspired or use samples/interpolation
@@SobrietyandSolace Absolutely. Those are all horrible rip offs IMO, taking an already proven song and changing little bits
Tbf, those cool classic rock artists all stole from the black artists before them, so...
@@lurker6918 a lot, read up on music history, then we'll talk.
@@lurker6918 The producers and radio stations were straight up trying to make rock and roll more palatable to white people by having white people sing it. It was never NOT about race. You could say that it wasn't malicious, but it was definitely racist.
The worst ripoff of all time is Johnny B. Goode by Chuck Berry. It’s definitely a classic but it was completely 100% ripped off of Johnny Be Good by a lesser know artist called Marty McFly
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And Brian Wilson copped the melody of Chuck Berry's Sweet Little 16 for the Beach Boys' "Surfin USA". After a lawsuit threat, the record label gave Chuck songwriting credit.
the question then becomes who did Marty McFly rip off , I've heard a guitar player for Hank Williams who play a live solo that sounded like a Chuck Berry solo but it was 5-6 years earlier .
The first guy to play a 1-4-5 chord progression is owed 100 squintillion dollars
must have been in the 15th or 16th century - way out of copyright ... ;-)
Luckily, I am a microtonalist...
@@mp-dd7pn I was taught that the basic 12 bar blues goes back to being the foundation of rock.
So maybe it’s not quite that far back 😀
Yes, but the harmonies of Blues go centuries back ...
The guy that invented 12 Bar Blues ought to own the universe.😅
What I've learned from this: rock artists are cool people
Yes, we're cool people 😎
In their heydays their label would have sued.
Also in my opinion, have great vocals...they could sing rock and ballad...
@@fruitcake9579 fun fact: David Draiman from Disturbed was classically trained as a cantor.
@@recklessrex, hell I didn't know that and I'm a real big Disturbed fan. I know you weren't replying to me, but I'm just saying.
Props to the musicians who are not money grubbing lawsuit hungry jerks but respect the influence.
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And most of the time the lawsuits are by big production companies who didn't have anything to do with the writing of the song, and didn't give the original writers a say.
Sam Willee Music e x a c t l y. Or family estates of the original artists (looking at you Marvin Gaye’s relatives). What’s frustrating too is if Marvin Gaye were alive, he wouldn’t be even trying to sue other artists
@@aocplusme5676 Aight bro let's not go there
I don't agree. Every one of these examples in this video were blatant obvious rip offs not just "inspired". Seems like most of the groups didn't pursue legal action because they in turn had also stolen their songs from even earlier works.
Love how all of you people excusing the theft and blaming the "jewry" have all never had a real hit song stolen. Real easy to feel that way when you've never had an art of substance you've labored over stolen.
(And no.. whatever BS example you're about to give of your worthless unknown art being expropriated and you not caring doesn't count.. because it's worthless. )
Don't forget about Billie Eilish "Bad Guy" just being the Plants vs Zombies melody played at 1.25x the speed.
For real thats what i thought when i first listened to it 🙂
In a just society, this comment would be top of the list under this upload
So wizards of Waverly place is a work?
Sht, fr?..
I mean they’re pretty open about drawing inspiration from it. It’s a pretty brilliant musical interpretation.
For me, Andrew Lloyd Webber "ripping off" Pink Floyd's Echoes for the iconic Phantom of the Opera theme stands out - the bassist said "It’s the same time signature, and it’s the same structure, and it’s the same notes, and it’s the same everything. Bastard." then moved on with his life. 😂
Plus his Memores being little more than a timing change on Ravel's Bolero
Spitting Image has a great skit of him going through classical composers and stealing this and that
@@JeddorianJalapeno Yeah that's not even close mate
Andrew Lloyd?
Pink Floyd?
Hmmmmmmm
I’ve never heard someone call Roger Waters just “the bassist” lol He was the co-lead singer and principal songwriter.
12 notes, rearranged over and over, some of them are bound to sound similar.
Yup.
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Dave E there’s 12: C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#, A, A#, and B
@@cashewpistachio1826 lmao fair enough
Hey@@pantranwhostansdan38 I can't talk right now as I am wanking.
bruh every book is just a remixed dictionary
fauxmountain LMAO
So, true!
Hahahahah
Yep, and every video another compilation of pixels
For real. But you dont see dictionary guy suing everybody for it
“Ice Ice Baby” and “Under Pressure”? Remember when Vanilla Ice said he’d never heard of Under Pressure or Queen? Yeah right.
you can't even call that inspiration, it's literally the same track
That feeling when youre in the music industry but never heard of queen
And somehow Queen and David Bowie didn't sue... they at least could've asked for a bit of credits...
Charles Poitras they sued and won
They are so similar in the begining that i have a hard time telling them apart during the opening chords
"Culture doesn't exist in a vacuum. Culture is an ongoing conversation"
Best thing I've heard all year!
Ironically Tom Petty is the least petty musician when it comes to people ripping him off
Listen to Petty's Breakdown and then listen to The Animals Cheatin'... sure sounds like Petty was "inspired" to me (it's even thematically similar songs) so he'd be a hypocrite about suing people who have ripped him off.
@@JuliusGalacki Oh fuck off Tom Petty is a musical genuis and comes up with his own brilliant music. The reason he doesn't sue people is because he's just a cool guy, which you would know if you actually cared to learn about him.
Because Tom was an amazing, down to earth, true singer/songwriter/musician 💜
Sam Smith would disagree.
@@chadlurie9447 It was the record company not Tom Petty, and both Smith ad Petty say they have no hard feelings "things like that happen". If you did ay research you would know that, so next time you try calling someone out get your facts right
When we say "One Direction" or "enter band pop group here ______" what we really mean is their producers, who coincidentally have usually been in the music business for 20+ years
When you make music you're a producer, they want money so they're marketeers.
Or Harry Styles, that wrote most of their later material and loves classic rock
Mega Ascension yeah but like you said “later material”, that’s from four and made in the am, not before of that
@@frannred Yes. Really the first song I ever actually liked by them was Night Changes. I still love that song.
@@frannred dont forget midnight memories Louis wrote/helped write over 3/4 of the songs on that album.
In all of these people's defense, it can be hard to avoid unintended plagiarism because music lives so deeply in our subconscious.
You've got to respect the musicians who made the decision themselves not to pursue any lawsuits, not only that but defending and supporting the artists accused of copying them. That is really heartwarming.
Not when themselves have taken it from another artist.
heartwarming?
Autotrope yeah it’s really heartwarming when they enable plagiarism. Lol wtf
Especially Tom Petty!! What a most Great Human!! RIP!! So Glad I Got to see one of his Last concerts in Cleveland Ohio before his passing!!
They allowed it because they knew their own lifting of other’s music wouldn’t stand the harsh light of scrutiny. If you created something truly original, you would resent it if someone stole it, profited on it, and didn’t credit you. And you would be right to resent it. There’s no “honor” in allowing someone to steal from you. That’s just a personal decision.
If it weren't for songs sounding so similiar, we wouldn't have the mashups in Pitch Perfect lol
Spontaneous reMARKs we live for riff offs in this house hold 😔✋🏼
No one does mashup as glee
Chord progressions and modal modulation
What is pitch perfect?
A movie about acapella college groups
I don't remember who said it, but i remember a quote saying: "The most creative man in the world, is the one who best hides his sources"
Pablo Adrian Luna Alvarez david bowie i believe maybe?
@@spicygoddess2374 I dont know. Bowie sounds fairly similar to early Syd Barrett
Picasso: "Good artist copy, great artist steal"
It was Einstein. He said “The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources” so pretty much the same
i believe everyone here just got woooshed. HE'S HIDING THE SOURCE YOU GUYS
unless i'm also getting wooshed, idk
I always thought 'American Woman' by The Guess Who sounded like "Whole Lotta Love' by Led Zeppelin, especially the main heavy riff.
Definitely 2 different riffs, but I hear the similarity. Probably inspired by whole lotta love.
Which was sharlessly copied from You Need Love ..the Small Faces verson of Willy Dixon
The first 3 albums by Led Zeppelin are complete ripoffs of other artists, incl Whole Lotta Love. And they shouldn't have the audacity to sue anyone.
@@bearinmind1876 As much a a Zep fan as I am, I admit....You are 100% right.
Nice change of page for Zep to be stolen from and not do the stealing
I feel sorry for Weird Al Yankovic. He's always getting ripped off and nobody notices.
Lol
Best comment
He does parodies of famous songs..so it would be the other way around...he gets permission though..if Wierd Al parody your song then you know u have definitely made it. He rocks..😆😎👍
@Navi Satar That's the joke
Lol
I didn't expect so many of these examples to have the bands respond with "yes, they do sound similar. That's fine." Nice to see that.
I know right. Just wait till some dumb, handsome, young boyband sees this as a oppertunity to steal these songs and become millionaires.
Probably because the "original writer" ripped it off themselves
True musicians know that they all just make their versions of the same old song.
Just like novel authors tell essentially the same story differently all the time, because the motifs that drive us have been the same since the dawn of humanity.
Also, if you wrote a classic and it has made you a wealthy person, you don't need to worry about a boyband making a cheap rehash of your classic. You can be confident that your version is more likely to be the one that's remembered in history. Just like already nobody talks about Midnight Memories without mentioning its similarities to Pour Some Sugar On Me, which will probably stay on air longer than the 80's kids will stay on this planet for.
@@LRM12o8 I absolutely agree with you.
@@LRM12o8 Also, it really pisses me off too that translating title trend to gain more views lmao
One Direction: steals music
Rock stars: they're just kids they don't mean it
But the writers who wrote the songs for those talentless little shits are not kids. They are at least middle-aged.
@@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530 I know man, I can see from here the room full of suits, lawyers and corporates talking about what song to plagiate. I made the joke knowing full well the producers stole everything purposefully.
Wilson Henley> Yup, that's the music industry. Creativity and originality mean very little. it's all about what sells, sells sells. Just steal songs from the more successful and creative artists so your no-talent plastic fabrications can make a hit out of them.
Does that sound like I'm bitter? I've been in several bands and believe me, if you're different and actually original sounding, you'll be told by the record execs to change into something more commercial or give up. They want clones of shit that made money before.
That and I think it's record companies not the bands that would make money in these cases so they just don't give shit
@@Ploulaf I agree, or even: "music is not so vast - only a couple of chords available for everybody. Let's not be complete assholes."
or better: "we don't give a f**k,"
I could see also: "who is One Directwhat?!"
"a painter would be called absurd to sue another painter for using the same shade of blue as them."
Sounds like something Anish Kapoor would do...
And people have been spiting him ever since. To the point he's not allowed to use the whiteist white or the blackest black (which outdoes his). Copyrighting colors is stupid. I find it particularly silly for the BBC who somehow copyrighted or trademarked the shade of blue they used for the TARDIS.
"can i copy your homework?"
"yeah just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied"
Hehehe funny
I've never heard that statement before in my life
Smaaahhhht
*copy-paste the Bible*
You know there's an app where it detects plagiarism? This is today's world. Stop being an unoriginal. When I found that out... 🤯 Whoa 😦. Good thing I don't steal. But that's hw
so every country artist can sue every other country artist
And that sounds like a country song. 😜
To "plagiarise" both the late Hank Williams and the latest Van Morrison offering ..."Three Chords And The Truth"........... :)
@@dustinmccrindle343 oh man thik we just wrote one bro lmao
@@lyndamcardle4123 truth
Once upon a time there was an original country artist.
the beginnings of the choruses in “i love rock n roll”, “cherry pie”, and “pour some sugar on me” all sound super similar to me
Lucy yayayayaya I can hear that 😂
its the double strum every other beat. also, in the vocals, they drag out the second syllable. sheeees my cheeery pie, i looooove rock and rooooll.
I WAS THINKING OF I LOVE ROCK AND ROLL
Noooo what have you done? 😂🤣
As well as Weezer - Beverly Hills.
I am glad that you put Taxman with Start!! I actually love that bass riff. I had both of those songs the Beatles and the Jam. I knew that the Jam copied it but it still sounds great.
This guy actually understands what Green Day was doing.. Taking music that inspired them when they were younger and making something to honor those older melodies
And to make money from it..
Greenday steal shit from lesser known punk bands, too.
Tom McGentleman you mean like pinhead gunpowder? Green Day sounds just like them! 😂
@@tommcg1776 yeah they sound exactly like foxboro hottubs
Joseph Kane isn’t that the point of their job
The first caveman who banged a rock in rhythm needs to sue EVERYONE!
Only if he died less than 70 years ago!
@@cjdennis149 Of course he did, have you ever studied history!!?
/s
Percussion or drum patterns cannot be copyrighted I think
Crap... I’m gonna get sued...
shaddo xx how was that an r/whoooosh it's obviously a joke 🤦♂️
There’s only so many chords to play honestly.
There's no excuse for that One Direction Baba rip off. Disgusting.
There's an endless possibility of music to make. People just get lazy and want to make money
Unless you're a jazzer !
The problem isn't that there are only so many notes/chords to play, but rather there are only a few that are chosen in pop music. It's so limited and formulaic that it's impossible not to create music that isn't substantially similar to something someone else wrote in that genre. It's hard to claim innocence if you copy prog rock, but it's hard to avoid infringement in pop rock. Moreover, the internet and technology allows everyone to publish everything they've ever done, meaning there's tons of material out there. I doubt, for example, that Katy Perry was even aware of the song she supposedly infringed, but because the copyright was registered, she's deemed to be on constructive notice of it.
Copyright law needs serious reform.
There is a video about musical entropy that details this very topic
This reminds me of a story about a conversation between Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie. Dylan was supposed to be a good singer (of that style) and wanted to be able to write songs. Guthrie advised him just to take some old songs that he liked and change the notes and the words.
That was certainly the tradition in folk music, to take old melodies and add new lyrics, or just record old songs that had no copywriter claim
What gets me, though, is how stridently Bob Dylan goes after people who borrow from his songs. It's hypocritical, insofar as he did it all the time.
"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is research." Unknown.
Probably stolen.
That's how Edison "invented" motion pictures.
@@acester86 Yeah no one has heard of Louis Le Prince.
nonsense. In research you must display, which author you are refering to. If you dont do that and you get caught, you may loose your degree. Thats very different from music business, where you just pay money.
@@byom3100 :That's your opinion and opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one.
The worst I’ve seen is when the company that bought the rights to CCR’s music sued John Fogerty because his new music sounded similar to the stuff he wrote while in CCR.
Todd Crnkovich
An atrocity!!! That is the worst.
"How dare you, MR. FOGERTY, write like yourself!"
John Fogerty didn't write shit in CCR, his brother did and his brother got screwed
To Matthew Casteel:
He wrote 9 of 10 songs on Willy...
9 out of 10 on the Green River album
6 out of 7 on Bayou Country
Etc...
Well, if that isn't a sign we need to rethink copyright law, I don't know what is.
1D lucky as hell that those bands let them slide.
Simon Cowell and his team would have paid them off in one way or another, 100%
Even if they got sued they will get away with it Simon has allot of connections and knows the best music lawyers
1D are very one dimensional.
I think it's more about the label than the artists themselves. I believe most of these are under universal music. Would be different though if a young aspiring artist would be sampling them.
How? They’re lifting a few staples of rock and directly acknowledging their influences. It should be common sense not to sue them.
Nina Paley gave a Ted talk in which she asserted that all of this ip was stopping everyone from being able to THINK freely while creating, so I had a musician friend of mine listen to it, and he admitted to staying away from working on songs if they had anything from anything else in them…but he was astounded to consider how much that *limited his thinking*
So it turns out that Tom Petty isn't actually petty.
I miss Petty so much. I am a huge fan of live music. And I never got to see him live. I was sad when he died, he has some of the best chill music. I might be the grim reaper. If George Thorogood dies it’s my fault. I’ve never seen him live either. And he’s next on my list.
@@steliokontos8364 I miss him go. He's awesome. They need to clone him. I never seen Ozzy or Dylan and both are still somehow alive. I don't think it's your fault if people die without seeing them.
He did sue sam smith though 🤷♂️
@@SmurgeGrody - To be fair, that Sam Smith song wasn't just similar - the melody was note-by-note identical.
Dude I can’t believe that song came out in 93 I thought it was from the 70’s
Blurred lines vs Marvin Gaye
Ed sheeran vs Marvin Gaye
*Marvin Gaye vs Marvin Gaye*
Blurred Lines is that well famous Artist
It's true. Marvin Gaye accidentally sued himself. And lost.
Marvin gaye vs Marvin gaye
Unfortunately leaving one marvin with 2 bullets fatal killing him on April 1st, 1984 in West Adams, Los Angeles, California
Yeet Man> That's a hell of an April Fool's Day gag.
Queen's "under pressure" and vanilla ice's "ice ice baby"
Literally the reason I clicked the video
The infamous song that both started and ruined the fame of Vanilla Ice. Had he just added Queen in the credits things would have been way different.
That's called "sampling"
I read that Ice eventually just went ahead and bought the rights to it.
@@charlesbelville5090 No. He had to pay a settlement and has to continue to split profits with them 50/50 to this day. He lied about buying the rights just like he tried to lie about ripping them off in the first place.
Sweet.. you were overjoyed with 90,000 subscribers and now have 657,000. Well done David, you're producing fun but highly informative videos.
As a metalhead, we are REAL lucky blues musicians haven't tried suing us yet.
I like heavy metal but i like and play jazz and blues😅
What's this "we" shit?
Have you compared Ministry's "Just One Fix" to Rammstein's "Du Hast"? Remarkable similarities!
Dave Danger what’s ur problem
Dave Danger calm down
"Earfquake" is just "Boys Who Cry" from Spongebob
@Eric F it really do
jokes aside tyler will always be safe because everything he makes sounds like him
Thank you, Bill Clinton Pablo.
Meghan Trainor - Dear Future Husband
Olly Murs - Dance with me tonight
The actual same song
both dreadful shit.
@@mantistoboggan5171 both wrote by the same music label probably. Since nobody writes their own music anymore
dance with me tonight is a riff off of runaround sue by dion
@@mcgubbin When I first heard Dear Future Husband, that was the first thing I thought of...
@@mcgubbin It does sound like Runaround Sue. Runaround Sue is a better song though.
Hard to believe Oasis havent been included in a video about songs sounding like older songs..
Yeah Noel's a notorious magpie... he even ripped of t rex get it on which is maybe one of the most recognised rock riffs in history...he does it well though... cigarettes and alcohol is a great track but he wouldn't have a song without that riff that's for sure
I was dumbfounded myself with all the comments and no mention of Oasis - Imagine/Don't Look Back in Anger, How Sweet to Be an Idiot/Whatever (sued for that one by Neil Innes!) and many, many more.
Tom Petty... what a chill dude. RIP legend
I've seen just about every AAA band of the last forty years in concert.
Tom Petty blew them all away.
I can't believe he's gone already.
A friend of mine was going to see him at Bottle Rock and invited me along. I had some stuff going on in my life and decided to put it off until the next year. Then we lost Petty... I regret that to this day. I've loved his music for decades.
Not at all petty
Yeah, still hurts even though it’s been a while.
My favorite was when John Fogerty was sued for copyright infringement of songs that he himself wrote.
Some people here must remember George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" sounding a bit too much like "He's So Fine," recorded by the Chiffons. George lost that lawsuit.
Jason Schulman and then wrote a song about the experience called ‘this song’! Which itself had a few nods to other songs 😂😂
Yup, I always thought this was the most egregious rip off I’d ever heard. Harrison essentially stole the whole song, progression and melody, even back up singers.
He bought the rights to he's so fine later
mijnordna this song I think sums it up pretty well
I thought he had copied it unconsciously, like he didn’t know it was a copy until after it was released idk actually
"Creep" just sounds too much like "The Air That I Breath".
I listened to it and the one similarity I heard was the chord progression, I guess David Bowie’s estate should sue the hollies because Space Oddity used the chord progression first
Rock'n'roll bands often dont sue others for "influence" because themself have borrowed elsewhere. They don't want to be hypocrites.
No it’s because they don’t have teams of lawyers like pop musicians do. Obviously the big ones do but most rock bands don’t
Tell that to the Rolling Stones, and the The Verve.......
lol Led Zeppelin get sued many times.
I hate to say this but one of queen's songs sounded like a song from billy joel. from what i heard, he seeked legal action against the band, but couldn't prove they plagiarized. same thing with led zeppelin. spirit could not prove they plagiarized stairway, and that's why they won their case. Led zeppelin created and originated all their own music, just like queen did. because led zeppelin was the biggest band in the world, other artists were so jealous of them and their success, they would say just about anything to try and wreck them. Pete Townsend from the who said he couldn't stand led zeppelin because he said "they were bigger than the Who". is that a reason to punch Jimmy in the face for it? absolutely not! that's childish. I like both zeppelin and queen, but I can't stand zeppelin being picked on just for taking influence from others. they did not plagiarize anything. queen is a good band as well, but they were not saintly or perfect anymore than zeppelin was. both were original and talented in their own ways. Nirvana however, was notorious for plagiarism. no wonder kirk killed himself. he was in such hot water legally from all the lawsuits
@@laurieguenther5898 Kirk Cameron snuffed himself?
Two songs: *have the same chords*
Everyone: IS THIS PLAGIARISM
Sara Morgan honestly peeps need to chilllllll
@@MW-jf8gf people also need to stop putting loads of end letters on words like children.
Hellwyck Ok boomer
It is not about the chords, because it is the same 3 chords that make up 70% of the songs. It is more about composition as a whole. One Direction - Midnight Memories is 100% plagiarism. Starting a song with E D G or the blues progression is influence, taking a melody and chords note by note and changing words is plagiarism.
@@lxnks_crxpse You'll be old someday if you're lucky. And share something with boomers, wisdom.
I love how the “Christian Rapper” probably sued Katy Perry for the attention but everyone one still only refers to him as “a Christian Rapper”
Who cares
@@93ChristopherC found the Christian rappers alt account✨️
@@93ChristopherC he originally won and Katy Perry had the decision rightfully overturned. Completely speculating but I’m willing to bet the judge who issued the first verdict was religious.
The precedent that he nearly set with that first verdict would’ve been a huge problem for basically any musician who had ever published music.
So yeah, people cared a lot. Don’t be so willfully ignorant.
@@redeadhead4 Your comment is irrelevant and ineffective. Especially when you start your statement by admitting that you are completely speculating.
Yet, it remains, who cares that he is still being refered to as the "Christian rapper", it doesn't matter. In fact, the op referred to him as the "Christian rapper" in his comment.
Read it again.
The comment is towards his reference of name not the actions of his person.
Even further, the op not only refers to him as "the Christian rapper" but he also goes on to speculate that he did it for attention.
I'll say it again, and for the last time.
Who cares? If you do, at least learn the name so you can take all your speculations and attempt to properly bash somebody.
Such a petty attempt to scrutinize one who lives their life by a particular compass of moral. Its any Americans right to make a statement on the light of justice, if he or she truly does believe.
As soon as I heard Dodgy I said "Yo, Don't Fear the Reaper." Let's face it, the one suing is poor; the one sued made a crapload of cash. Petty didn't need the money. I also believe him about hating lawsuits.
I, for once, consider that Dodgy's song needs more cowbell.
You realize that Petty also knows what it’s like to get sued, right? Look up the history of Tom Petty battling MCA Records. That is why Petty didn’t go after the RHCP’s.
Classic song: exists
One Direction's writers: We have 200,000 rip offs ready with a million more well on the way
Not defending 1 direction but led zeppelin & the Beatles were notorious rippoffs
You know they split in early 2016?
@@supportlid who's talking about led zeppelin and the beatles? The joke was about one direction
@@supportlid You act like people didn't make jokes about led zeppelin lol
@@fractalez letting it be known people claim these bands to be the best rock bands of all time but they rip everyone off for me its pink Floyd or the eagles
It's pretty much impossible not to step on someone else's toes these days. Music variations are finite, especially in the same genre, and as time rolls on the more crowded it all becomes.
That true, but what record companies are doing these days is that there are like ten people who write all these songs and they take the popular songs of the past mash them together and there you go. It's not they they are inspired, they are stealing and rearranging to avoid lawsuits. When the rock artists use the same chord progressions that's one thing, when there are multiple songs choruses mashed together it's an intentional act of stealing and trying not to get caught.
When you say finite, are you talking permutations? Because there’s 6 ways to write 1,2,3 in any order. Considering there are so many notes with so many octaves and so many instruments with so many strings, how many permutations or combinations of melodies with varying instruments could we possibly have?
@@Toasty283 there's only twelve notes with over 70 million songs on Amazon Music alone and don't forget that the ways you can arrange these twelve notes is heavily limited by what we hear as coherent and pleasent. The theory behind which has been discovered and written down centuries ago.
It's like a language, except much more limited (English has 26 letters, more than double the amount of basic characters and no limit to how big of a word you can create out of them. The size of a Chord, however is limited by the instrument and/or the range of human hearing), yet I've never heard of authors suing each other over using the same concept&structure of their story or using the same idioms, syntax or even just the same words...
and you only have so many chords and notes to use another song that sounds like another at the end of it Brown Eyed Handsome Man by Buddy Holly, and the instrumental Tequila
@@Toasty283 people only listen to resonant music, so that cuts off a huge chunk on the possible combinations of notes
nobody ever sticks up for weird al, all of his songs were stolen :(
He made parodies, and always asked permission b4 doing them
You're an idiot parodies are a different ball game due the reformative aspect of fair use.
imagine not being able to notice this is a joke
@@exzyyd392 that sad face sells it lol, seems sooooooo real
Hydraxion Voltage for real tho
the beginning of “don’t threaten me with a good time” by panic! at the disco uses the riff in “rock lobster” by the b-52s
Every song is literally just a remix of the music scales
You know, you not wrong
Every tweet of yours is literally just a rehash of cavemen’s grunts
You know, y'all should quit resampling the alphabet, you might end up with a lawsuit.
That's true, but Ice ice crappy follows the Under Pressure's baseline note for note. Oh wait, except that one beat at the end that makes it totally different. Riiiight....Smh
Dang, I was hoping you'd mention the time john fogerty got sued for ripping off the song he wrote himself with CCR
That's a good one though! I wrote a report on it lol.
Ethan Johnson Ha ha. Similarly Paul Weller should have been sued for ripping of The Jam.
Around the same time Neil Young got sued for not sounding enough like himeself.
Lead singer in foo fighters sues nirvana drummer for plagiarism
😂
Ha
Ha
Ha
And likeness rights
Evad Lhorg
"He stole my face!"
You can bet that One Directions' songwriters had previous careers as lawyers.
what about "under pressure" and "ice ice baby"
and "super freak" and "u cant touch this"
I think Super Freak was actually sampled, which is fine if they clear the sample.
They're fine because in both cases the right to use the sound was purchased
@@MyNutcake MC Hammer cleared the Super Freak sample appropriately, and was even spoken highly of by Rick James himself; Vanilla Ice, on the other hand, did not purchase the rights and was sued by Queen. It's all cleared up now, but it ruined Ice's career.
@@DJCosmicLatte didn't know that, Vanilla Ice is such a fucking tool so glad to know
@@DJCosmicLatte "but"
im glad it did.
Almost 40 years ago when I was 18, I wrote the coolest melody for guitar. I played it for my friends who were amazed at my talent, even my Parents loved it. Everyone who heard it thought it was great. Then I played it for my Sister who told me it was the Aerosmith song "No more no more". Damn, she was right! I didn't mean to do it. I only heard that song a couple times and here I was about to take credit for it. I thought I was great, but I was just a copycat. We all learn from the guitarists that came before us, but I nailed this almost note for note and had no clue.
Paul H literally did that with the lead part of Dani California. The riff with a ton of hammer on and pull offs. Sad day
When my older brother was at school in the 70's ,him and a schoolmate made a cassette demo of 5 songs he had written. When he played it to me 10 years later when I was collecting old records , I pointed out his "Endless Night" was "Death of a Clown" by Dave Davies from 1966 !
@@shaunw9270 for some reason I wanna hear those songs...
@@NomNomBlankey I would like to hear it again too. In the late 80's I made another 2 copies but unfortunately due to divorces , house moves and wotnot since then , neither of can find a copy! Funny , we can both still remember the songs well enough to perform them 😊
When I was about 14 I thought I came up with the coolest riff....turns out it was Diary of a Madman. Feels bad bro.
it’s interesting that ‘creep’ by radiohead was mentioned here as they recently tried to sue lana del rey for her song ‘get free’
That one's an actual rip off in my opinion.
But like the example in the video- it wasn't them. It was a recording company that tried to sue.
OnceIWasYou ohhh i see, didn’t know that haha
It would be interesting to hear about the relationship between creativity and memory from a neuroscientist.
I think when music just comes into someone's mind it could be them just remembering it. At that point they may or may not make the association. However, much like dreams are often inspired by recent and past memories sometimes I think music is an amalgam of past memories of music. I believe dreams are to save space and / or make retrieving memory and experiences more efficient. If music can be created this way it would mean "Yesterday" famously dreamt by McCartney is just some music more efficiently stored in his mind...
@@74Jupiter I suspected this, i.e. memory is a set of rules for reconstructing past experiences, a kind of "lossy file" with codecs. I've heard and read neuroscientists say eye witness accounts are the worst form of evidence in a trial for that reason.
@@anthonynorton666 I would guess senses being processed efficiently = evolution advantage. Visual probably most complex i.e. not getting eaten by Leopard. Therefore probably lots of short cuts and filling in the gaps. Exact face recreation not that important. No point us remembering whether a leopard has or has not changed its spots.
*Everything is a rip off of Pachelbel's Canon in D* - Rob Paravonian
But pachelbel's canon in D is really good. The copies rarely are.
actually its sounds like memories
As well as dont look back in anger
@@Fireblade-fz9gk Yes, Maroon 5's "Memories" definitely resembles the Bach canon
Too obvious, lol...
This is why I don’t think I could ever write music. Because I don’t know if I could be original.
Exactly, I feel like I'd spend days making something up, publish it, then get shat on by the public for having something similar to a song I'd never heard before
True 😢
Truth is, all the chords have been done... it's more about creating an original vibe and interesting vocal contrast from from the typical.
That happened to me once. I'm by no means a songwriter, I just dabble for my own amusement. One time I was in a daze as I had found this really cool chord combination. It lasted two days, then I started singing the lyrics to another song (forgotten which one) and I was like "damn, scratch that one then".
Same
It’s quite fitting that 1D use baba o’Riley for their song “best song ever” as baba o’Riley is one of the best songs ever imo
Samuel Medforth That’s true
I always thought the implication was that Baba O'Reilly was the "best song ever" that they danced all night to.
corey’s got a point
Doubt that
Pretty stupid for a kiddy boy band to copy such geniuses considering they don't even write the songs. They were too young to know the originals or had any say in it anyway. Obviously their little kiddie bopper fans were clueless too.
Thank you for the spot-on assessment of what copyright is SUPPOSED to be used for! For those of you who want to re-hear what I am referring to, begin at 13:44. The exact relevant statement is at 14:12 or so.
What I’ve learned from this video: most rock musicians are incredibly chill people who understand how inspiration works
Or deep down they know they took from unknown blues musicians and don’t want to be hypocrites.
@@n3rds3y3vi3w 👆 This.
I actually thought that most of what One Direction is doing is like tributing all these 70s and 80s acts as opposed to ripping them off
Dj Hastings yeah, except if that’s the case then they’ve just made them all sound awful
Same here. There were enough differences that it was clearly not ripping off anything. Basic pop chords don't belong to anyone, and multiple of then have admitted to loving classic rock, so influence is going to happen.
@@axeanimation2417 That's your opinion. I honestly doubt you've heard more than 5 one direction songs to know whether you like some of their music or not.
Aguest That last remark is a rather flawed argument: you’re saying you can’t have an opinion on a band or performer unless you know all their work? With 5 songs Grace can form a well-based opinion if she likes the style in which onedirection ‘tributes’ other people’s actual creative work
And I think it’s rather obvious onedir. is simply another boyband: fabricated in a marketing lab, members picked to appeal to different groups of girls, not much time and money wasted on actual creative work: just rip some classics and turn them into catchy tunes using a standard formula (not even done by the ‘band’ itself) - songs’ popularity only needs to last a few months (you just systematically poop a new one out at given intervals to keep ticket and merchandise sales going) and it leaves the budget for the marketing, which is the real popularity driver
The actual members of the band didn’t have a lot of say in the first three albums they made. It wasn’t until the last two that the boys were really involved in the writing process. Which is why their last two albums are arguably the best.
Is nobody gonna talk about the first part of “Under pressure” and “Ice Ice baby”?
DING DING DING DIGIDINGDING
Covered in one of his other videos. That one added note really changed it. Yuppers.
Dun dun dun dudududun
thats sampling. also see the clash's "straight to hell" and MIA's "paper planes"
That's credited sampling
"No artist would sue another artist for using the same shade of blue as them" boy have I got news for you about a colour called Calvin Klein Blue
Green Day’s 21 Guns solo and the Full House Theme song.... name a more iconic duo
Green Day's Boulevard of Broken Dreams, ripped off from TLC's Scrubs
Wow...green day is connected to fortnite via scrubs
@Macc Attacc I think that's what Billie Joe was going for but i'm not sure
No way. I just started listening to that song 2 days ago, and I thought the SAME EXACT THING.
Green Day’s America idiot and Jonny Test theme
There’s a reason why Beyoncé’s “Lemonade” has over 40 writers credits. Every single influence that she has and uses, she credits the person. From a beat to a tweet, she credits.
...okay that's actually really fucking cool of her.
That is cool, but honestly most musicians are not conscious of their influences. Just yesterday I realised I stole a modulation from Chopin.
Mastodon1976 dude stfu none of us are even talking about if we like her music. Stop trying to start a flame war.
Becuase she can't write her own music
Like why are you calling them influences anyway? She's not crediting them becuase her work is influenced by someone else, it's their work?
i came because lana del rey almost got sued for using the same chord progression as radiohead
You came because of Lana del Rey?... I bet that wasn’t lamb sauce...
That was a publicity stunt. Did you listen to the two songs?
Radiohead borrowed that same exact chord progression from a Hollies song, and they credited them for it. So for them to sue Lana for using something that they stole from another song wouldn’t make sense
Same
One "rip-off" I've always found pretty funny was the way the Beach Boys put out Surfin' USA as essentially a cover of Chuck Berry's Sweet Little Sixteen, but with different lyrics and a different feel (i.e. giving Berry a writing credit). I just love that Brian Wilson must have been like: Oh this melody slaps. I can absolutely do better on the lyrics tho
They did the right thing on that. Gave Berry credit and royalties.
brian didnt think surfin was from the berry song, his dad made the settlement against brian's wishes.
Love Brian but the beach boys were sued
One Direction: *Hippity hoppity your song is now my property*
Another one: hippity hoppity your moneys may property
The people that wright there music are lucky that rock legends are nice
😂 it works perfectly in a British accent
Lol
I mean eventually we’re going to run out of appeasing audio combinations.
Ikr. If I was a musician, other musician: 🐩✋😤 you stole that from me. Me: you came out of my ass? 🤔 Interesting.
Appealing?
Not gonna happen. People said exactly this when I was a kid in the 80's.... and yet, here we are... remembering Kurt Cobain..
Not really. Music is dynamic and it's the expression that matters. Theoretically music is endless. You don't look at a painting and think "I've this seen shade of red and blue before, jeez art is getting stale". We only have so many colours, we only have so many sounds, but the results are endless
I literally said this in 2000 and yet, 19 years later and plenty of original sounding music is still coming out.
caveman hits rock with stick... instantly establishes copyright for all future music.
Well who got the rights? That's what really matters
Nah I think it was birds making songs thousands of years ago have all the royalties
....immediately gets sued by The Rolling Stones.
During my time at Bath College, I wrote a little piano tune and worked it into one of my songs. About five years later, I heard that piano bit in a hip hop tune on the radio. I never made any money out of my music, so I just smiled and said to a friend who was there: "Hey I wrote that. Nice to hear it's out there now." :)
Billie Eilish “bury a friend” sounds awfully like “people are strange” by the doors
YES I’m not the only one who noticed
there are definitely similarities but not enough to me
also black skinhead
You mean that the main chorus sounds similar, every other part of the song is completely different, the instrumental is completely different, the tempo is different and it's played on a different instruments? Striking!
No no the doors release is a deep fake copy!
Lol
artist be like "cool man, nice music", corporations be like "sue them all, we own the rights"
Exactly. Describes a lot of life
Artists who also got inspiration from others, because music
Yeah so intense.
Wouldn't they be like fans already know what's up 🤔. Idk, sometimes ppl stealing comments alone is annoying af
👍🏽 That’s usually why people get sued.
Surprised Lana Del Ray didn’t get mentioned in relation to Creep 😂
Because that was unquestionably WAY into the plagiarism end of the spectrum.
Creep was a ripped off hollies song anyway
“The air that I breathe “
Andrew Buckley lol. Yeah. I did actually watch the video 😂
Another Creep soundalike song is Beloved, We Have Expired by Samantha Craine.
@@DylanPank71 Creep was unquestionably WAY into the plagiarism end of the spectrum (the hollies)
True Story ; Many years ago I was talking to Tony Mcauley who at that time had a chart hit with "Blame it on the Pony Express' (1970) and I suggested to him (politely) that surely it was a rip-off from "Simple Simon Says" (1968). To my surprise he said quite candidly that, yes, it was a tried and test way of making money, i.e., copy a hit, get a new hit, when the lawyers ring say either you can pull the song and no one makes any money, or let it roll and they would split the profits. And they usually accept the 50%.
One Direction aren't ripping off other artists so much as they or their songwriting teams have nothing original to say.
They were unabashedly highly processed canned commercial music. They took classic songs, knocked them off with a group of young guys with fresh faces, and thus pandered to the teens they wanted to make their money off of. This isn't to say the band members don't have talent, they just didn't work with originality. Take a look at the old 'boy bands' of the 90s, and you can figure maybe 20% of the band will move on to make a real music career, and start to make anything like original music.
Im pretty sure they go both ways
One direction: Directly steals/rip offs music
Rock stars:
Bruno Mars: *Breathes*
Funk artists: SEND 10000000 LAWSUITS
Those rock artists were ripping off soul and blues artists since the 50s. No wonder they didn't sue.
Chaz Martin you have no idea what youre talking dude
@@Matolcsibenedek would you like some proof? This is easily researched. Where have you been?
Chaz Martin no, i meant you have no clue of music at all. Of course they have similarities, because they both played by instruments. And the music of the 50s is the most simple music ever. I could not name one unique riff or solo from a 50s song, because they were plain. Rock music has memorable riffs, but it has the basics, which are relatable to the 50s music.
@@Matolcsibenedek I’ve been a musician for 40 years. I’ve been an engineer/producer since 1988. I’ve played classical, Funk, and Jazz and R&B. I’ve played on nationally released songs and I’ve worked in Detroit, Nashville, NYC, and London. I have more than a clue.
there's a lawyer who's sure, all that glitters is gold
Classic 😂
hey...you stole that from Zeppelin, who, by the way, stole it from someone else. Quite fitting, I think.
@@ericmccoy5038 Zeppelin stole it from whom?
@@nathanrocks2562 considering they were sued over it by a band named Spirit over their song Taurus...so there is that. Besides Jimmy Page has been notoriously pointed out for "borrowing" more that his share of other peoples music...look it up, its not hard to find.
@@ericmccoy5038 yes I have heard and read about it. I was referring to the line specifically about all that glitters is gold. It's a classic pun, but not stolen from another band
This is actually a fun exercise to do if you’re trying to get into writing music. You take a song you like and use all of the same notes and change a little bit of the rhythm and switch up the progressions to create a new song that generally sounds decent.
Ooooo I am trying to get into music, I would do this… but I came here trying to get over the panic of accidentally creating a melody in an F# minor song that sounds a whole lot like the beginning of Carrie Underwood’s Before He Cheats. I want to sort that out before intentionally copying something else ahahaha
Basically what Noel Gallagher has done his whole life
"I think that there are enough frivolous lawsuits in this country without people fighting over pop songs"
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Another check in the "Tom Petty was, is, and always shall be an absolute legend" box.
Petty not being petty seriously makes my life!
he sued sam smith. www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/sam-smith-on-tom-petty-settlement-similarities-but-complete-coincidence-34776/
@@bsquared4604 pretty sure it was his label, and not himself.
@@bsquared4604 that was his label
Petty was not petty at all! 😂
If Nirvane stole "Come As You Are" from Killing Joke, then Killing Joke clearly stole it off The Damned's "Life Goes On".
No one "stole" anything. Is such a simple riff
@steffenla4 - 'Life Goes On' came to my mind also :-)
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@@infor99 Yeah, I bet someone could find a similar short section of music in even older classical, country, blues, etc. Killing Joke and Nirvana are such creative bands that it's hard to imagine them needing to copy anyone.
Nirvana stole the riff From Killing Joke
Killing Joke stole the riff From garden of delight
Garden of delight stole the riff From The damned
That's what happens when you eat too much beans.
I enjoy David's analyses of music more than almost any other commentator's: he gives just the right amount of info and detail, without going on and on and on as so many others do.
Why don't you get a job - The offspring and Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da - The Beatles
"why don't you get a job" sounds even more like Simon and Garfunkel's "Cecilia".
I’m pretty sure that was intentional as it was so similar
The Beatles didn’t even write ob-la-Di, ob-la-da it was marmalade and didn’t even realise it first so it would be marmalade not the beatles
@@danielhart2959 It was written by Lennon McCartney
Artist: *Uses the same 3 chords as another artist*
People: Wait, that's illegal.
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"The only art I'll ever study is stuff I can steal from" - David Bowie
And then Vanilla Ice came along...
flynnryan and Jet...
Jean Genie got its riff from 'I'm a Man' Yardbirds version.
@@flynnryan it was John Deacons bass line that caused the trouble.
Good job. You present this material very well.
And then we get into a Queen and Vanilla Ice scenario.
David Bowie my guy queen sucks
rock music said by the guy with a slipknot profile pic
As gay as a daffodil that was insane added an extra note and now it's a totally different song smh.... rock music Bowie and mercury wrote that together Queen rocks now Queen+ Adam Lambert that's a different story
Queen stole the bass line from ice ice baby
😂😂😂
oh my god! I remember when a load of these one direction songs came out and I was convinced that their writers were trying to catch kids by giving the songs a kind of 'I've heard this before but I don't know where' factor, and then they would associate those songs with one direction. CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!!!1!!
That's exactly why they do it. It's not a conspiracy, it's marketing.
User it’s not even their fault . They are not the ones writing the songs , they are just the voice and face of the product .
User i hate kids now believe “seven rings” is better than “favourite things”
@@verucasalt9182
Not true at all. In every case I've seen, the actual artist has claimed to write these songs. Usually, when the songs are written for them, the songwriting credits reflect that. These artists are simply trying to copy a song's elements and pass them off as their own.
Evan Fiend one direction is a. Manufactured boy band that came out of a tv program . Don’t give them so much credit . Many of them rich kids with very little talent of their own but somehow they hit the rest of their lives sorted because they were “ chosen”.
No one gonna talk about the whole “Ice Ice Baby, Under Pressure” situation???
Samples don't count, as they are literally snippets of the original track - so by definition they cannot fall into influence or plagiarism categories. See MC Hammer/Rick James.
@@done1675 Didn't Vanilla Ice claim his song was entirely original? The who "Dum Dum Dum" vs "Bum Bum Bum" thing?
b3agz he did I think
That’s a sample, same as Fall Out Boy’s “Centuries” and that bullshit lesbian song.
emmittsmith482 oh gotcha
A very nice approach and even the title is smartly written to sound interesting but not misleading at all. Thanks for sharing!