I saw Kate Bush live in 1979 - there were two songs with a lot of dancing involved. An announcement was made before each song that due to the complexity of the choreography Kate would be miming. Integrity and honesty is long gone in the music biz.
When she was accused by Dave Grohl, she said during a performance that “My band plays live for over 3 hours”. She did not say that she sung live. Words matter.
I made the mistake of infuriating K-pop fans one time. I don’t even remember why - it was something trivial and not even any kind of actual dis But wow. They were really mad! Wishing you the best, Fil!😂
I've heard of fans who went to the shows, paying a lot of money of course, and were disappointed because it was obvious to them that she was lipsyncing.
I’m not a fan, but appreciate the role of “ childless cat lady “ she has taken recently, to back Kamala Harris in the current federal US election . I really hope you were not aware of the impact her fame is having on the US saving itself from something less than democracy when you chose to do this video at this time. If unaware of the fight for democracy,perhaps someone asked you to analyse Swift at this time.
It should b obvious, she has way too weak voice to specially sing a whole show live. She seems like a very nice lady but I don't understand the crazy and obsessed fans this fairly mediocre singer has.
My adult daughter told me once that I was naive expecting anyone in concert to actually be singing. She insisted that no one could dance like that and still sing. Broadway performers do that 8 shows a week, and (fingers crossed!) none of them are lip syncing. Of course, she also refused to believe that I could hear auto-tune/pitch-correction. I feel very old.
@@VikingAwayFromHome I was just going to say this, But it is well known in the industry, and it is the exception, not the rule. 99.99% of those performances are completely live and always part of my response to people who say that you can't expect a concert to have live singing when they are also dancing. Unfortunately, the practice of pitch correcting studio recordings has made its way into the musical theatre world, and it's devastating.
I almost didn’t click, because, 1) It’s obvious, and 2) I dig rock, not pop. I don’t think I’m going to watch this, unless I get *really* bored, and need to sleep.
I would be more surprised if she didn't, I have always found her voice fairly weak and not that special, it would probably be very difficult for her to sing everything live. I think she should sing live though (at least some songs if she can't manage everything).
Not even, she has sold her soul for where’ she’s at! People are just dumb sheep that are told what to like and not and swifts handlers tell The masses to like her and they shove her down people throats 24/7 through media,commercials, radio, movies…. That’s why shes famous not Because she’s talented or a good promoter.
Phil, Bruce Springsteen releases an official recording of each of his live shows a couple of days after the show. These may well have been ‘sweetened’, but a comparison by a couple of these and some of the audience videos of the same shows would be interesting. As a Springsteen fan I hope you find that the live shows are in fact live, and hopefully that the official recordings are also true to the original. I was at Sunderland gig and he had a few off notes as had one of two of the band members and these came through on the recording.
I guessed that she was singing for real because she bothered to hire a "live band" and "backup singers" despite the fact that 99% of her audience doesn't care about either. And there was some article where she was talking about running on a treadmill while singing to practice for the tour. I just didn't expect someone lying to make their lies so unnecessarily complicated and overt.
She is singing live for around half of the set. Mostly on the verses and surprise songs. It's super obvious when she switches to the backing track though as everything becomes very in pitch.
@Tommmmmm2 To be fair , and this is probably me being an old fart thing, I don't regard Swift as a "serious" artist. As a pop-star/entertainer I cut her more slack to produce a SHOW rather than being a serious musician
There are definitely times where she sings live because there are many instances of her being horrendously off pitch and terribly straining her voice. Perhaps not on this tour, but in the past for sure.
@@redflag4781 It would be fine if she were upfront about what is happening. More of a serious artist or less of a serious artist, I don't think either gives you a hall pass for fraud.
The large majority of subs to this channel already knew or suspected this to be true. Stand by for the reaction of her fans who have no capability of critical thinking whatsoever.
@@Siletzia Or care, which is fair enough. But Fil has always been about full disclosure: let people know what they are paying for and I totally agree with that.
@@JustinWillhoit It's a semi-live movie, basically. Combination theater/concert presentation. If it's enough for the given audience, providing the entertainment they [fans] desire then it is quite literally the proper value for their desire I reckon. Not being eh my thing? I guess doesn't make it right or wrong I suppose, it just is. Like liver & onions. Looks & smells great to me, keep trying it, keep wanting to barf it up. Doesn't make it bad, just not right for my personal taste. ymmv etc
@Wings of Pegasus btw Fil I saw the Eagles at the sphere in September. Henley is still lip syncing. My recording of Hotel California matched exactly to another guys video I watched on RUclips. He recorded that video a week later at the sphere. Same exact recording. Deacon Frey sang live. I could absolutely hear the difference.
I wondered if they might have multiple different vocal tracks they were miming to, rather than just the same one every single night, but it would really need to be analyzed to know for sure.
@@elizabethmiller7291 hi Elizabeth. Actually I could hear Deacons breath hit the mic. I could hear certain words on the mic. It just sounded live and not recorded.
I went to see a Kpop band with my 14yo last weekend in Australia. I observed and commented that there was a lot of mining and backing track going on. My daughter said 'will you can't really expect them to sing and dance at the same time'. She didn't really care and was fully accepting of the fact that they were miming. $150 a head in a stadium with 30,000 people.
It took me a long time to realise that a lot of people (adults too, not just kids) aren't really going to see music performed live, but they just want a song and a dance with flashing lights. It might be Disney on Ice, or the ABBA holograms, or sometimes it might be an actual live band - but it doesn't really matter to a lot of people, it's just a spectacle they want. Which is fine, if that's what people want. (Of course, performers shouldn't lie about what they're presenting either!) As a lover of live music, it took me a surprisingly long time to work out that a lot of people just don't care either way, as long as it's entertaining.
Nevermind the boy bands of my childhood like N Sync sang and danced live. I'd rather hear a live vocal. Otherwise, how's it any better than watching any dancer at all dance to the songs?
Stray kids? To be fair their dancing is way more physically demanding than anything I’ve ever seen or am likely to see from Taylor Swift plus I think most people know Kpop and miming have traditionally always gone hand in hand.because the focus has never been solely on singing, its more a visual experience.
I worked as a teacher in Leeds over 40 years ago and remember being told by my friend Fred Wood who had worked as a musician before teaching (including in Lonnie Donegan's band), that this was common practice then. If the artist had to dance or act, it was too difficult to get excellent sound so they mimed (to tape at that time!)
I have family who attended the Liverpool gig. The one thing I can report was that the atmosphere was described as overwhelming and hysteria filled which I think is more than likely going to massively alter attendees perception. I, as many before stated, am not suprised at your factual findings. My only concern is i dont inform other family members for fear of ruining what was described as the best night ever! It's a can of worms that sadly in my case I will be burying at night in a park many miles from my home! 😂 Thanks Fil for an unsurprising but slightly awkward for me analysis 😂😂
Her concerts are nothing more than ritual ceremonies….. I believe people are getting possessed and possessing well Taylor Swift is literally doing rituals on the stage because she has to because she serves which is the devil….
My son took his whole family to see her in Amsterdam and my grandkids were over the moon. I think I will follow your example. (five tickets for almost $6,000 and it wasn't live makes ME mad, but I think I'll let them dream)
I just told my wife (mega swift fan) that I've found a video that proves its all lip syncing. She is not interested haha! I suppose if we love them, we can let them have their fun... I've managed to put my foot down about listening to her on repeat in the car now, so I'll take the wins where I can.
I have not watched your video yes, so commenting first because of the tittle. all the musicians i love etc (zappa, Corea etc) have all been amazing live performances. I saw Taylor twice back around 5-6 years ago (my daughter was 15 and a big fan) People who go to see Taylor are there for the big show, which consists have many people on stage at the same time, it's a massive production and I would not critise anyone for miming under those circumstances, also the reason a Taylor fan goes to her concert are complexly different reasons you and I would go to a concert.
She's got more going for her than an empty orange juice can. She's got a look, she's got songs. But she's living in the post integrity era. Wait, new album title?
I always assumed she was one of those who lip syncs at least the parts of songs where she's dancing, as I'm sure I've heard live vocals from clips of her on these big tours. The bad thing is that some people believe she's singing everything live.
Swift is a phenomenon now. Why not? I like her marketing tack, it works very well. There is no point in elevating her to genius. She is smart, hard working and steadfast. She has never been a great singer and her songs are formulaic but she's lovely enough and created a cult.
When Dave dropped that hint, I was saying I didn't think it was true because "why would she bother hiring a band and backup singers to tour with if she's just gonna lipsync to a track? It's wasted money and makes the lie more overt." And I remember reading some article where she talks about singing while running on a treadmill to practice for her concerts. It's so bizarre to me that someone would go so far out of their way to overcomplicate their own lies. When I'm lying I try to keep it as simple as possible because I'm so uncomfortable with it. I guess if you lie enough you get numb and bored with simple lies. If everyone knows what they're getting, then people who are fine just paying to see a "Taylor Swift dances along to a playback of her songs" show can buy that and go enjoy it. But that's not what's being advertised and not what people are led to believe they're witnessing at that concert. It's the lying that makes Taylor Swift and everyone else who does this absolute trash human beings who owe refunds plus at least minimum wage for the stolen time to every single person who was defrauded by buying a ticket for a live music concert that never took place.
@@orlock20 she sings live for around half of the show, usually in the verses and surprise songs. Choruses are almost all not live and even some whole songs (such as the one Fil is looking at) are not live.
@@Tommmmmm2 I assumed her shows were a mix of live and tracked. Her more recent "dance" oriented songs are sung over bed tracks that are all synth based, with heavily processed vocals. There's really no reason to try to do those live if you want to reproduce the sound of the album or single. When I saw her movie/documentary, it was obvious that it was a mix of live and tracked, not only the vocals but the backing tracks as well. She does highly energetic, 3+-hour live shows night after night. I don't really blame her for mixing it up. I believe she's sincere in wanting to put on the best show for her fans. To that end, I can't really fault her for doing what she can to get through a long tour while preserving her voice for when it really matters.
But what will it be to profit the world but lose your soul in the process she can have all the money in the world but where her soul is going now…. it’s not going up most likely down until she responds and turns away….
Taylor swift without digital voice altering is naturally quite pitchy. Generally having wide range on a specific note. And that can be trained in a bit but generally you will still have a decent amount of fluctuations between different performances. Then the timing should never be spot on. Because if she was a fantastic performer she would have a dialogue with the spectators and exchanges both verbal and nonverbal and it’s these nonverbal ones. Like you see the crowd is into it and you run through the last verse and chorus an extra time. Or the chorus one extra time. Or hold a note longer in one performance than in a past one. Maybe the tempo goes up a bit. Or maybe it slows down. The point being is that you honestly can’t have it be identical time and time again. I don’t like going to a concert and then finding out that the live version isn’t any different than the recorded one.
This video is just confirming the obvious. I don’t think it’s very brave to do that. Exposing Don Henley was a much better example of something that could be called brave because Don Henley is a sue-happy douche bag.
I get that people accept that she’s miming bc it’s impossible to dance and sing to the level she appears to be doing. In my view the real damage is that ppl now evaluate genuine live performers by this standard which is unrealistic. It’s just another way the music industry marginalises the regular local performers who are amazingly talented in my experience but ppl don’t value them because they aren’t as “good” as these professional packaged performers seem to be. Consequently ppl will pay hundreds to go to a big name performance but won’t even come to the pub to hear a local group. Humans are dumb.
Thankfully, we have singers like FloorJansen of Nightwish (and solo projects) in this world. Vocal range, stage presence, personality, all outstanding. A "true" role model for any aspiring singer.
These are the exact reasons why she appeals to so many people. If she was anything special and talented, her audience would be much smaller. Shes so 'middle of the road', it makes her popular.
@@presc13ntyep, pretty much par for what is considered popular music. Music history is already replete with examples that have only been made more obvious as sound recording technology has advanced.
I can bring the song Saturday Night into my head immediately. I don't know any of Taylor's songs. I hear she writes a lot about breakups with all the dudes that have run through her.
She must have a soundtrack running as she " sings" along. That is why the visual is so theatrical. It's a show more so than a musical performance. She has made a billion dollars from this.
Hopefully it is live. An autotune program can be used live. It is often included on keyboards that include a microphone. Otherwise, it just takes an inexpensive program and a tablet or laptop.
I think that a Taylor Swift performance is not so much a concert as an event. It's choreography, lighting, sound, and somewhere around third or fourth place, it is a musical performance. The music is only a vehicle for her presence and show. A soundtrack for the Taylor movie. I am neither a fan nor a detractor, but I think that "concert" is something of a misnomer. "Performance" is closer to the mark. And I, personally, would not pay what I'm sure are outrageous prices to see it. Then again, I am not her target demographic. I think this sort of canoodling should be fully disclosed to the buying public, though.
To add to this, people go for the collective experience - all being together in the presence of their idol (a bit like a religion!). A bunch of my work colleagues went to see her at Wembley and were preparing for weeks beforehand, making friendship bracelets to swap with other fans. They didn't stop talking about the experience afterwards either. I agree the music is probably 4th or 5th thing down the list in order of importance for some fans!
I wouldn't even call it a performance. I'd call it a religious mass for all the Swifties so they can say they were there when the great miracle of Swift showing up happened. It's a cult.
There‘s definitely a mix between miming and live vocals in her live performances which is understandable given it’s a 3hr show. It would be interesting to hear more samples from different eras since 1989 is the most pop and „produced“ part of the setlist, compared to eg. folklore, evermore and ttpd
Sometimes fans go to a show simply as an homage to the artist. It's a chance to bow down, and to applaud. The performance is kind of irrelevant - what is important is to be in the same room.
Sadly, I think you are right, generally speaking, about people not caring about hearing the real deal and just want to be part of the experience. What I have also found is that the musicians I interact with on Facebook pages also, generally speaking, don't seem to care about what is happening in the music industry as a whole, repeating the same refrain that "it is what it is" implying there's nothing that can or should be done about it. None of which bodes well for Fil's side project. :(
... ive seen her live , i like her a lot, not bias tho, you can clearly hear that a few songs, or secton of songs are "playback" or at least heavely suported by backin tracks, pretty much like every pop show nowdays.... She plays for 3 hours,so nothing shocking here.... but she does sing live on several songs...
I am a recent Swiftie. at 76 years of age no less. I also trust Fil to the max, so no pushback from me. However, and this is a big however, I don't see how Taylor's acoustic set/s which contain new mashups at every concert can be mimed. It would only be fair to analyze them and a few other sound files from elsewhere in the concert. I've learned a lot from Fil and agree with him that autotune alone has ruined music. Taylor's genius is in her writing, especially her lyrics, not her singing. On that point I would debate anyone. But it is clearly dishonest to sell tickets based on a live performance which is not live, even if only in part. It amazes me how she can get through this show physically for 3.5 hours night after night, month after month. So this revelation from Fil is not shocking. Just One of many reasons I have decided not to go to any concert like this is the fact that you cannot actually hear the performance over the singing. If that is the case, why have a live concert at all? Taylor is brilliant in many different ways. She needs to be honest about this tour which has created an impossible standard for future artists. So can we revisit this with some other sound files? I have no idea how to capture those, so someone else will have to set Fil up with them.
@@VictoriaYoung-nr2iq True as this may be, she or any other wealthy individual is not obligated to give. As far as tax write offs, that’s also true, but i do believe there are limits to how much can be written off.
Paul Stanley who can't sing as he used to, also mimed during the band's (we're done, we mean it, really this time) End of the Road Tour. No joke. Go find a live video on RUclips of KISS playing "Detroit Rock City" or "I was Made for Loving You."
How sad that someone who exerts as much influence as she undoubtedly does is still lying to her audience... I am so glad I grew up in the 70s when "live" music was actually live and, sometimes, the live albums were better than the studio ones because the artists would always inject a little variety into their performances. Now, everything is cloned to the hilt and you can't possibly be caught singing a "bum note"!
That's what made concerts so good back in the 70's and 80's is that human factor. The lead guitarist plays in a slightly different key, the singer plays with the words for a different effect or feel, or any of the members for that fact. We knew it wasn't going to sound like the album and that's why we were there.
I don’t understand the mindset of young people who will accept lip-synching, auto tune, etc, as, stated by my daughter, ‘it’s the industry standard now” and “who is it hurting”. Wow, the acceptance is mind boggling.
An open society allows analysis and debate like this. Having attended one of the tour stops last night, I am comfortable saying the audience paid for the spectacle of the performance and production. The poetry in the lyrics remains and whatever injury to music as an art might occur by an artist miming so she can dance, the crowd could not have cared less last night.
Two billion!, and this may just be me but..., for something I would not listen to if it was free and really live. Oh well, we did spend money on pet rocks, chia pets and plastic dog poop.
I've never understood all the fuss over Taylor Swift. While she's definitely an entertainer, I really don't think of her as a singer. That said I do respect her philanthropy and decency. I have no source to cite, but I've also read that she takes care of her employees with decent salaries and benefits. Do with that what you will.
I haven't watched the video yet, but like someone said before, I think I know what I ll see. Fil has commented already on her on previous performances of her, and if she dances a lot, well, that and singing at the same time is complicated. I also don't understand the enthusiasm about her, but I think she can sing, plus she apparently writes, in the opinion of other songwriters, good songs, ans she must have some talent, I guess. Plus she re recorded her first álbum cause of a problem with her record label. And apparently she is very generous in economic terms with the people that work with her. And she has been in this industry for more than 10 years. Yes, not enough to be a true artist, maybe, and if she told the truth about miming/using pitch correction/autotune, most of her fans would probably be ok with that. But there are cases waaaay worse than this.
@@ichirofakename because I know Fil s channel, and I knew what he said on Taylor s previous performances, and I already imagined this. And because I wanted to, so what s your problem with that? Ok, I dont know why I bother... You re looking for a confrontation, discussion or whatever, fine. I ll just won t answer.
The big question to me is whether she mimes to one or two tracks as she's doing a lot of dancing, or all the tracks. I guess this would require a three-hour analysis video!
When we play at pubs, the publican likes us to talk up the bar staff so that the punters will buy more beer. We always say “the drunker you are, the better we sound!”
Not everyone is doing it. The first time I ever recorded Skillet in concert on my phone, there are one or two spots where John Cooper’s voice hits notes REALLY flat, but that (as all Wings of Pegasus fans know) is part of singing! There is a performance on RUclips of The Naked and Famous singing “Laid Low,” and she’s pitchy, which makes me like the performance even more, because it’s honest.
To quote Fil from another video "As we know, in the music industry now, performing means "moving"". This won't sway the swifties from their near cultish fandom of Taylor. They will gladly shell out how ever much a ticket costs to see her. Sadly, this isn't just the case with Taylor. So many concert goers are clueless that this is such a widespread issue, and even many of the ones who know about it would rather hear a fake, mimed, pitch perfect "performance" than to hear a real human voice with all of its imperfections.
@@dwaynewladyka577 ... This is just one more piece of the facade being taken down to expose what is industry wide and end up exposing a TON of artists. Doesn't really surprise anyone, as dancing around the stage for 1.5hrs. is gonna be darned exhausting, so there is no way the voice would not suffer because of it. Many wont care and others will simply rage out and, as Elaine mentioned above... the Troll Corner is gonna be a busy one 😸
I’ve done a very similar analysis a few weeks ago on Beyonce, Mariah Carey and Christina Aguilera. Only the latter seems to exclusively perform with real live vocals all the times, except for sporadic televised performances from the 90s when she first appeared in the industry. It’d be interesting to see your thoughts on her.
Meanwhile, at the RRHOF inductions' ceremony, no sign of ANY vocal trickery but boy oh boy - and I'm not one bit ashamed of saying this - there were a few cases where they could've used it to spare us of the cringe-fest. 😂
Two or three years ago I think it was Styx and Foreigner where coming to town and someone asked if I was going. I said no, I saw them live in the 70's and 80's when they were the original line ups and in their prime, and at nearly 70 I don't think Tommy Shaw and James Young can hit the notes they did 40 some odd years ago.
@@kallsop2 - The problem is that the "performers" I was talking about were not the inductees but rather some of the guests who were invited to replace them.
I love your content. I watch all of your videos, I rarely comment. Despite the fact that, as ever, you come across fair and objective, this video is the first time I've ever been concerned about your safety and wellbeing. Which is absolutely *mental*
I think it’s a bit disingenuous for others in the comments to draw a conclusion from this video’s one example that she is miming the entire 3.5 hours she performs on tour. I do think there are songs in her setlist, like Style here, that she relies on a track to perform over to keep her voice healthy for the tour. She sings for the majority and it’s a good time overall. Her fans know she’s a good singer, but not a top tier vocalist. I got good seats for the tour at a decent price. If we’re discussing price issues that should be on the monopoly Ticketmaster has over the industry and allowing dynamic pricing. Yall complain so much about an artist who stays in her lane and puts on a type of show her fans want to see. If that ain’t your style of music/live show then cool. But many in the comments here seem to be foaming at the mouth to validate their dislike or hate of her and her fan base over this. Kinda crazy, but just support your fav artists and get off the hate train you’ll be a lot happier.
Please do another song from another era. It is no secret that the vocals from the backing track are turned up a lot during the 1989 set. This has been obvious at least since the release of the tour movie. I suggest champagne problems since it's mostly vocals and piano.
Some justify the use of tricks by the fact that it is a performance and it is not easy to sing and dance. The best memories I have are those of the Performances of the last three tours of Tina Turner at 50, 60 and 70. Two hours of singing and dancing show. People like Taylor Swift and many other young self-styled "artists" should be ashamed to go on stage and also get paid.
The pertinent questions here include what do the fans who attend her live performances think about what she is doing and not doing on stage. Do THEY know she's miming? Do they even CARE if she is miming? What would they think about TS miming to a pre-recorded audio file that has been heavily pitch corrected or even autotuned? Do they mind being at a live performance that is depriving them of her beautiful natural voice? Are they okay with all of the hype - real and otherwise - that surrounds her ERAS tour? And, most importantly when it comes to understanding what is happening within the music industry as a whole, are they okay with being deceived. The answers to those questions are the ones that really matter when thinking about how we real music lovers should go about fighting back against the deception and destructive practices that have become the music industry standard operating procedures.
@@abc456f But, that misses my point. If we are going to fight back effectively and successfully against the destructive practices that have become the music industry standard and save real music from oblivion, we have to fully understand exactly what the problem is and why so many music lovers don't see it the way we do...
@@elizabethmiller7291 Don't you think it's a generational issue? This is all her fans know. I believe it's up to the parents of these kids to expose them to what real music is, not this pre-packaged vanilla entertainment.
Hmmm... Taylor Swift had a huge tour in Australia recently. Very expensive tickets for an arena tour. One holding 40,000 in Sydney alone! I saved up some money and bought a few tickets. What great shows. Kreator and Cradle Of Filth were on point and LIVE ... two amazing concerts and still had change 😍🤘
Great video as always. My niece adores Taylor and started playing piano two years ago because of her. I'm not surprised that she mimes but ultimately I think she is a force for good, even if I don't like her music. It's not written for dudes like me anyway.
All this is making me start to wonder about THAT, too. It's not an easy task. Many years ago, I worked on some shows with Donald O'Conner. He was getting older and the dancing was more subdued than in his glory days, but he was huffing and puffing like crazy after every bit.
My daughter and wife went last night. I already was pretty certain a fair amount of the big radio pieces with choreography involved tracks with a live mic on top. I did see some video mg wife took of the acoustic section/ it was clear she was really singing ; so it’s not a function of she “can’t” sing ; but I agree- paying hundreds (or thousands in many cases) and getting a big chunk that’s not 100% live can seem to be less than honest if not downright fraud.
She has addressed her security during a live performance. While she is addressing her security she is still singing at the same time. To have the ability to talk and sing at the same time is absolutley incredible. So, really no need for a breakdown of her vocals. However, I'm glad you did anyways for even more proof of this fake singer.
I haven’t went to a concert in years. I will be seeing David Gilmour next week. I would be disappointed if a musician of his caliber lip synced, especially since the tickets were very expensive.
as a swiftie, i confirm that she's not the best vocalist. she even recognizes herself as a songwriter first rather than a singer. through the years, she has improved A LOT. and yes, i understand that she's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's okay! i always suggest to listen to albums like folklore/evermore, really chill/indie/alternative style with great lyrics as well, and pretty different from everything that she has ever done before. love your videos!!
@@violetlondon5497 you can check on the credits on every song and her name will always be on all of them. she even has an entire album (speak now) written all by herself at the age of 19. but just because you don't like someone's work doesn't mean you have to discredit it like that! have a great day
Fil, to demonstrate how each vocal performance is like a signature (never the same), analyse an older, one take song from say the 50s/60s, where they couldn't comp the vocals, ergo, recorded in one take, then compare the choruses of said song to demonstrate how they differ. No chorus should match up unless same one used. (compd etc). Keep up the good work
One of the things that jumped out at me in the Dukes of September vids is how intense Jon Herington looks during his lead guitar work. No visual excess showboating, strutting, etc. I'm no musician, but that seems to be a sign of a true live performance.
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I saw Kate Bush live in 1979 - there were two songs with a lot of dancing involved. An announcement was made before each song that due to the complexity of the choreography Kate would be miming. Integrity and honesty is long gone in the music biz.
Yes, and I think in one of those two, 'Hammer Horror', she wasn't even miming but just dancing.
That's fantastic. What an honourable artist.
Shame on the liars.
Thanyou for sharing this. First time I've heard of an artist being this honest & live. Love Kate ❤. Taylor is what it is.
Yeah, but if you're miming the whole show, you're gonna keep your mouth shut- except when the audio tracks are playing😂
If you are a singer and you can't dance and sing simultaneously, then don't dance. What the hell
One guy in his studio room exposing a billion dollar, money making machine. Love it.
Exactly 💯
We are all in this. Fil is NOT alone.
When she was accused by Dave Grohl, she said during a performance that “My band plays live for over 3 hours”. She did not say that she sung live. Words matter.
I doubt her band is even playing live, to be honest.
Lads, remember to pour one out for Fil.
Fil was a brave man.
He poked the most powerful of Dragons. Her name, Swifties.
Let us remember him well.
I made the mistake of infuriating K-pop fans one time. I don’t even remember why - it was something trivial and not even any kind of actual dis But wow. They were really mad! Wishing you the best, Fil!😂
He needs to make a statement that he is happy and not suicidal 😂
OOOF, not surprised, but you're gonna hear from her fans - they defend her like a mass of angry chihuahuas.
I've heard of fans who went to the shows, paying a lot of money of course, and were disappointed because it was obvious to them that she was lipsyncing.
I’m not a fan, but appreciate the role of “ childless cat lady “ she has taken recently, to back Kamala Harris in the current federal US election . I really hope you were not aware of the impact her fame is having on the US saving itself from something less than democracy when you chose to do this video at this time.
If unaware of the fight for democracy,perhaps someone asked you to analyse Swift at this time.
It should b obvious, she has way too weak voice to specially sing a whole show live. She seems like a very nice lady but I don't understand the crazy and obsessed fans this fairly mediocre singer has.
It's sort've a cult
🤔😆😂😅
My adult daughter told me once that I was naive expecting anyone in concert to actually be singing. She insisted that no one could dance like that and still sing. Broadway performers do that 8 shows a week, and (fingers crossed!) none of them are lip syncing. Of course, she also refused to believe that I could hear auto-tune/pitch-correction. I feel very old.
Phantom of the opera actually has a part that's lipped 🤷
Indeed, in fact I can't not hear autotune even if I try, lol
Get her to watch Queen at Live Aid. No miming, no pitch correction, just performance. Puts modern artists to shame.
@@VikingAwayFromHome I was just going to say this, But it is well known in the industry, and it is the exception, not the rule. 99.99% of those performances are completely live and always part of my response to people who say that you can't expect a concert to have live singing when they are also dancing.
Unfortunately, the practice of pitch correcting studio recordings has made its way into the musical theatre world, and it's devastating.
Wait till A.I. does all the singing and they use dancing poodles instead of the artist.
I think we all know the answer to this before watching...
I almost didn’t click, because,
1) It’s obvious, and
2) I dig rock, not pop.
I don’t think I’m going to watch this, unless I get *really* bored, and need to sleep.
I would be more surprised if she didn't, I have always found her voice fairly weak and not that special, it would probably be very difficult for her to sing everything live. I think she should sing live though (at least some songs if she can't manage everything).
Yup. It's not music, it's a brand.
Lawsuit coming
@@Ratzfourtyfour-
Usual
Fil is fearless in his most recent videos.
My first reaction, do not poke that bear ...
@@alejmoraWhy not? The truth needed to be told.
I love Fil pushing the envelope!
Fil will need body guards soon 😅millions of 13 year olds gathering around his house 😅😅😅
I’m worried that somebody is going to try to sue Fil. He’s going up against some powerful people.
She is just great marketing.
Not even,
she has sold her soul for where’ she’s at! People are just dumb sheep that are told what to like and not and swifts handlers tell
The masses to like her and they shove her down people throats 24/7 through media,commercials, radio, movies…. That’s why shes famous not
Because she’s talented or a good promoter.
You best be careful, pretty soon she'll write a put down song about you, and you're not even her boyfriend. Hey, maybe that would be quite the honor.
@@kenwoodbury1888 You know you’ve made it when….. 🤣🤣🤣
♫"Our love flew high like Pegasus, but then you let me fall like Icarus..."♫
Even with definitive proof the "fans" will still accuse you of lying.
Yup. Like a pure cult.
Fans will not be confused by the facts.
@@bbpyb exactly why I put "fans" in quotes
I mean...what word is "fan" shorthand for?
no they'll say "how do you expect someone to keep their voice and play a 3hr show without lip syncing" ........ like play a shorter show then
Phil, Bruce Springsteen releases an official recording of each of his live shows a couple of days after the show. These may well have been ‘sweetened’, but a comparison by a couple of these and some of the audience videos of the same shows would be interesting. As a Springsteen fan I hope you find that the live shows are in fact live, and hopefully that the official recordings are also true to the original. I was at Sunderland gig and he had a few off notes as had one of two of the band members and these came through on the recording.
I can't be alone in never even considering the possibility that she was singing live! 😂
I guessed that she was singing for real because she bothered to hire a "live band" and "backup singers" despite the fact that 99% of her audience doesn't care about either. And there was some article where she was talking about running on a treadmill while singing to practice for the tour. I just didn't expect someone lying to make their lies so unnecessarily complicated and overt.
She is singing live for around half of the set. Mostly on the verses and surprise songs. It's super obvious when she switches to the backing track though as everything becomes very in pitch.
@Tommmmmm2
To be fair , and this is probably me being an old fart thing, I don't regard Swift as a "serious" artist. As a pop-star/entertainer I cut her more slack to produce a SHOW rather than being a serious musician
There are definitely times where she sings live because there are many instances of her being horrendously off pitch and terribly straining her voice. Perhaps not on this tour, but in the past for sure.
@@redflag4781 It would be fine if she were upfront about what is happening. More of a serious artist or less of a serious artist, I don't think either gives you a hall pass for fraud.
For her fans you should have given an example of someone like Cindi Lauper who sings live without autotune on 4 different concerts.
I compared Cindi's and Dua Lipa's performances from Glastonbury earlier this year 🙂
bands should be legally required to reveal whether or not what fans will be seeing is live or mimed.
The large majority of subs to this channel already knew or suspected this to be true. Stand by for the reaction of her fans who have no capability of critical thinking whatsoever.
@@Siletzia Or care, which is fair enough. But Fil has always been about full disclosure: let people know what they are paying for and I totally agree with that.
@Siletzia Wow! what the view like from up there, looking down on everyone 😂
@@claudianash9811 Every Swiftie I know doesn't care.
I don't think Swifties even care. They just want to see her live and her show.
Agree. It's the show.
They think the value of seeing the show is literally seeing her with your eyes
Correct
@@JustinWillhoit It's a semi-live movie, basically. Combination theater/concert presentation. If it's enough for the given audience, providing the entertainment they [fans] desire then it is quite literally the proper value for their desire I reckon. Not being eh my thing? I guess doesn't make it right or wrong I suppose, it just is.
Like liver & onions. Looks & smells great to me, keep trying it, keep wanting to barf it up. Doesn't make it bad, just not right for my personal taste. ymmv etc
Her show is nothing more than a ceremony ritual of her doing occult things on stage while the masses get put in trances and most likely possessed….
OF COURSE she’s miming!
@Wings of Pegasus btw Fil I saw the Eagles at the sphere in September. Henley is still lip syncing. My recording of Hotel California matched exactly to another guys video I watched on RUclips. He recorded that video a week later at the sphere.
Same exact recording.
Deacon Frey sang live. I could absolutely hear the difference.
I wondered if they might have multiple different vocal tracks they were miming to, rather than just the same one every single night, but it would really need to be analyzed to know for sure.
Did you put Deacon's voice through the same analysis that you did for Henley?
@@cindi1313 More vocal recordings adds complexity to artists looking genuine. Not likely. Sad.
@@elizabethmiller7291
hi Elizabeth. Actually I could hear Deacons breath hit the mic. I could hear certain words on the mic.
It just sounded live and not recorded.
Great, Fil. You should do this with an artist that is NOT miming, so we can see what diffences you should expect from live performances.
Yes!
Yes please!
Check out Fil's Glastonbury video from July, comparing Cyndi Lauper and Dua Lipa's performances there.
Good point
I went to see a Kpop band with my 14yo last weekend in Australia. I observed and commented that there was a lot of mining and backing track going on. My daughter said 'will you can't really expect them to sing and dance at the same time'. She didn't really care and was fully accepting of the fact that they were miming. $150 a head in a stadium with 30,000 people.
It took me a long time to realise that a lot of people (adults too, not just kids) aren't really going to see music performed live, but they just want a song and a dance with flashing lights. It might be Disney on Ice, or the ABBA holograms, or sometimes it might be an actual live band - but it doesn't really matter to a lot of people, it's just a spectacle they want.
Which is fine, if that's what people want. (Of course, performers shouldn't lie about what they're presenting either!) As a lover of live music, it took me a surprisingly long time to work out that a lot of people just don't care either way, as long as it's entertaining.
Nevermind the boy bands of my childhood like N Sync sang and danced live. I'd rather hear a live vocal. Otherwise, how's it any better than watching any dancer at all dance to the songs?
Exactly what I was thinking, the real fans just don't care.
@@GaaraLover1792 Interesting.
Makes you wonder if they did?
Stray kids? To be fair their dancing is way more physically demanding than anything I’ve ever seen or am likely to see from Taylor Swift plus I think most people know Kpop and miming have traditionally always gone hand in hand.because the focus has never been solely on singing, its more a visual experience.
Great update as always Fil
I was so waiting for this Fil, you have no idea how long 🙏🏼 thank you lol
Me too. My daughter has been addicted to Taylor Swift since the beginning ... It's a cult.
@@a_bode1it is a cult, and they keep getting more militant every 4 years lol
@@a_bode1 Your daughter will be heartbroken at first, and then her interest in being a "Swiftie" will reside.
I call that "being a good parent!"
I worked as a teacher in Leeds over 40 years ago and remember being told by my friend Fred Wood who had worked as a musician before teaching (including in Lonnie Donegan's band), that this was common practice then. If the artist had to dance or act, it was too difficult to get excellent sound so they mimed (to tape at that time!)
I've always said she's the queen of autotune and lipsynicing. Dave was absolutely correct and this proves it.
Fil, if you play the track backwards, I think it says "too late, the money is in my account now".
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I have family who attended the Liverpool gig. The one thing I can report was that the atmosphere was described as overwhelming and hysteria filled which I think is more than likely going to massively alter attendees perception. I, as many before stated, am not suprised at your factual findings. My only concern is i dont inform other family members for fear of ruining what was described as the best night ever! It's a can of worms that sadly in my case I will be burying at night in a park many miles from my home! 😂 Thanks Fil for an unsurprising but slightly awkward for me analysis 😂😂
Her concerts are nothing more than ritual ceremonies….. I believe people are getting possessed and possessing well Taylor Swift is literally doing rituals on the stage because she has to because she serves which is the devil….
Please send the them back to reality, people are like in some cult.
My son took his whole family to see her in Amsterdam and my grandkids were over the moon. I think I will follow your example. (five tickets for almost $6,000 and it wasn't live makes ME mad, but I think I'll let them dream)
Same! My bff and her daughter are DIEHARD swifties, they've bonded over it so in no way do I plan to mention this...
I just told my wife (mega swift fan) that I've found a video that proves its all lip syncing. She is not interested haha!
I suppose if we love them, we can let them have their fun... I've managed to put my foot down about listening to her on repeat in the car now, so I'll take the wins where I can.
I have not watched your video yes, so commenting first because of the tittle.
all the musicians i love etc (zappa, Corea etc) have all been amazing live performances.
I saw Taylor twice back around 5-6 years ago (my daughter was 15 and a big fan)
People who go to see Taylor are there for the big show, which consists have many people on stage at the same time,
it's a massive production and I would not critise anyone for miming under those circumstances,
also the reason a Taylor fan goes to her concert are complexly different reasons you and I would go to a concert.
A great marketing team can make an empty orange juice can a super star. Taylor Swift is proof of that.
Not fair. Taylor is actually a very good singer. That’s why her faking it is so sad
@@JustinWillhoit but her “music” is complete drivel
There’d be a thousand Taylor swifts then and there aren’t.
@@JustinWillhoitshe’s str8 🗑
She's got more going for her than an empty orange juice can. She's got a look, she's got songs. But she's living in the post integrity era. Wait, new album title?
I always assumed she was one of those who lip syncs at least the parts of songs where she's dancing, as I'm sure I've heard live vocals from clips of her on these big tours. The bad thing is that some people believe she's singing everything live.
Can open... worms everywhere 😅
🤣 The visual this evoked in my mind... priceless. Thanks for the laugh!
Knew this was coming.
It won't stop here, which is unfortunate. There will be more.
Swift is a phenomenon now. Why not? I like her marketing tack, it works very well. There is no point in elevating her to genius. She is smart, hard working and steadfast. She has never been a great singer and her songs are formulaic but she's lovely enough and created a cult.
@@a_bode1 Totally agree with you on this.
When Dave dropped that hint, I was saying I didn't think it was true because "why would she bother hiring a band and backup singers to tour with if she's just gonna lipsync to a track? It's wasted money and makes the lie more overt." And I remember reading some article where she talks about singing while running on a treadmill to practice for her concerts. It's so bizarre to me that someone would go so far out of their way to overcomplicate their own lies. When I'm lying I try to keep it as simple as possible because I'm so uncomfortable with it. I guess if you lie enough you get numb and bored with simple lies.
If everyone knows what they're getting, then people who are fine just paying to see a "Taylor Swift dances along to a playback of her songs" show can buy that and go enjoy it. But that's not what's being advertised and not what people are led to believe they're witnessing at that concert. It's the lying that makes Taylor Swift and everyone else who does this absolute trash human beings who owe refunds plus at least minimum wage for the stolen time to every single person who was defrauded by buying a ticket for a live music concert that never took place.
Money, money, money, makes me funny in a rich man's world...
She probably does sing live for one or two songs a show, but not the theatrics parts of the show.
@@orlock20I doubt it!
@@orlock20 she sings live for around half of the show, usually in the verses and surprise songs. Choruses are almost all not live and even some whole songs (such as the one Fil is looking at) are not live.
@@Tommmmmm2 I assumed her shows were a mix of live and tracked. Her more recent "dance" oriented songs are sung over bed tracks that are all synth based, with heavily processed vocals. There's really no reason to try to do those live if you want to reproduce the sound of the album or single. When I saw her movie/documentary, it was obvious that it was a mix of live and tracked, not only the vocals but the backing tracks as well. She does highly energetic, 3+-hour live shows night after night. I don't really blame her for mixing it up. I believe she's sincere in wanting to put on the best show for her fans. To that end, I can't really fault her for doing what she can to get through a long tour while preserving her voice for when it really matters.
Taylor Swift is LAUGHING all the way to the bank! 🤑
But what will it be to profit the world but lose your soul in the process she can have all the money in the world but where her soul is going now…. it’s not going up most likely down until she responds and turns away….
No, not to the bank. Bank comes to Taylor.
MIMING all the way to the bank !
This whole world is a scam.
"See the glory
Of the royal scam" - Steely Dan
@@MusicHoldsTheSecret33 facts.
I wonder if Fagen mimes.
Taylor swift without digital voice altering is naturally quite pitchy. Generally having wide range on a specific note. And that can be trained in a bit but generally you will still have a decent amount of fluctuations between different performances. Then the timing should never be spot on. Because if she was a fantastic performer she would have a dialogue with the spectators and exchanges both verbal and nonverbal and it’s these nonverbal ones. Like you see the crowd is into it and you run through the last verse and chorus an extra time. Or the chorus one extra time. Or hold a note longer in one performance than in a past one. Maybe the tempo goes up a bit. Or maybe it slows down. The point being is that you honestly can’t have it be identical time and time again.
I don’t like going to a concert and then finding out that the live version isn’t any different than the recorded one.
Rock on! Big huevos to take on the Swifties. 🤣 We all knew there was no chance she was singing live.
Very brave, Fil. I don't think the trigger warning at the beginning of this video is going to protect your channel much. Best of luck 🤣
This video is just confirming the obvious. I don’t think it’s very brave to do that. Exposing Don Henley was a much better example of something that could be called brave because Don Henley is a sue-happy douche bag.
I get that people accept that she’s miming bc it’s impossible to dance and sing to the level she appears to be doing. In my view the real damage is that ppl now evaluate genuine live performers by this standard which is unrealistic. It’s just another way the music industry marginalises the regular local performers who are amazingly talented in my experience but ppl don’t value them because they aren’t as “good” as these professional packaged performers seem to be. Consequently ppl will pay hundreds to go to a big name performance but won’t even come to the pub to hear a local group. Humans are dumb.
Thankfully, we have singers like FloorJansen of Nightwish (and solo projects) in this world. Vocal range, stage presence, personality, all outstanding. A "true" role model for any aspiring singer.
I’ll never understand the appeal. There’s nothing in her voice, songs, or moves.
She’s the Bay City Rollers of our day - without the personality.
what a hilarious comparison, and kinda apt lol
@@MotherMantisslol. I do my best. 😜😂
These are the exact reasons why she appeals to so many people. If she was anything special and talented, her audience would be much smaller. Shes so 'middle of the road', it makes her popular.
@@presc13ntyep, pretty much par for what is considered popular music. Music history is already replete with examples that have only been made more obvious as sound recording technology has advanced.
I can bring the song Saturday Night into my head immediately.
I don't know any of Taylor's songs.
I hear she writes a lot about breakups with all the dudes that have run through her.
So we are saying the only live vocals at many modern ‘live’ performances are the voices of the crowd?!
Backlash to your conclusion will be Swift and sure.
At least Taylor's good to her truckers, stagehands and dancers. Big bonuses.
Bonuses or "Hush Money"?
She must have a soundtrack running as she " sings" along. That is why the visual is so theatrical. It's a show more so than a musical performance. She has made a billion dollars from this.
exactly dance and prance about to a track playing in her ears.
She's a fake!
She ought to have to pay back every cent plus at least minimum wage for everyone's time that she wasted on a lie.
This is why I prefer listening to younger talent at the local county fair; at least it's real, even if it's not perfect.
Hopefully it is live. An autotune program can be used live. It is often included on keyboards that include a microphone. Otherwise, it just takes an inexpensive program and a tablet or laptop.
I think that a Taylor Swift performance is not so much a concert as an event. It's choreography, lighting, sound, and somewhere around third or fourth place, it is a musical performance. The music is only a vehicle for her presence and show. A soundtrack for the Taylor movie. I am neither a fan nor a detractor, but I think that "concert" is something of a misnomer. "Performance" is closer to the mark. And I, personally, would not pay what I'm sure are outrageous prices to see it. Then again, I am not her target demographic. I think this sort of canoodling should be fully disclosed to the buying public, though.
To add to this, people go for the collective experience - all being together in the presence of their idol (a bit like a religion!). A bunch of my work colleagues went to see her at Wembley and were preparing for weeks beforehand, making friendship bracelets to swap with other fans. They didn't stop talking about the experience afterwards either.
I agree the music is probably 4th or 5th thing down the list in order of importance for some fans!
I wouldn't even call it a performance. I'd call it a religious mass for all the Swifties so they can say they were there when the great miracle of Swift showing up happened. It's a cult.
There‘s definitely a mix between miming and live vocals in her live performances which is understandable given it’s a 3hr show. It would be interesting to hear more samples from different eras since 1989 is the most pop and „produced“ part of the setlist, compared to eg. folklore, evermore and ttpd
Smaller & shorter tours IN THE FUTURE would save/ protect her voice. Voices don’t last forever.
Shorter shows also. Hard to sing live for three hours.
People in general don’t care about hearing the real deal in person they just want to be part of the experience. Love your content.
Sometimes fans go to a show simply as an homage to the artist. It's a chance to bow down, and to applaud. The performance is kind of irrelevant - what is important is to be in the same room.
Sadly, I think you are right, generally speaking, about people not caring about hearing the real deal and just want to be part of the experience.
What I have also found is that the musicians I interact with on Facebook pages also, generally speaking, don't seem to care about what is happening in the music industry as a whole, repeating the same refrain that "it is what it is" implying there's nothing that can or should be done about it.
None of which bodes well for Fil's side project. :(
... ive seen her live , i like her a lot, not bias tho, you can clearly hear that a few songs, or secton of songs are "playback" or at least heavely suported by backin tracks, pretty much like every pop show nowdays.... She plays for 3 hours,so nothing shocking here.... but she does sing live on several songs...
I am a recent Swiftie. at 76 years of age no less. I also trust Fil to the max, so no pushback from me.
However, and this is a big however, I don't see how Taylor's acoustic set/s which contain new mashups at every concert can be mimed. It would only be fair to analyze them and a few other sound files from elsewhere in the concert.
I've learned a lot from Fil and agree with him that autotune alone has ruined music.
Taylor's genius is in her writing, especially her lyrics, not her singing. On that point I would debate anyone.
But it is clearly dishonest to sell tickets based on a live performance which is not live, even if only in part.
It amazes me how she can get through this show physically for 3.5 hours night after night, month after month. So this revelation from Fil is not shocking.
Just One of many reasons I have decided not to go to any concert like this is the fact that you cannot actually hear the performance over the singing. If that is the case, why have a live concert at all?
Taylor is brilliant in many different ways. She needs to be honest about this tour which has created an impossible standard for future artists.
So can we revisit this with some other sound files? I have no idea how to capture those, so someone else will have to set Fil up with them.
Least surprising of your recent videos 🤷♂️
I’ve never been able to see what all the fuss is over her anyway. Not a fan.
Completely agree; however, as I understand it, she’s been quite charitable with her money, which is admirable.
What she’s “donated” is a drop in a bucket compared to her wealth. Her accountants use it all as tax write offs for her.
@@VictoriaYoung-nr2iq True as this may be, she or any other wealthy individual is not obligated to give. As far as tax write offs, that’s also true, but i do believe there are limits to how much can be written off.
@@claudianash9811 Yes, but it's usually all structured as a tax minimisation strategy for rich people.
Agree. Nothing against her, she makes lots of people happy. But her music is just so formulaic to me. Just not very interesting musically.
I marvel at your hair! The hair!
_Fil.....the Sherlock Holmes of music._ 🎶
Thank you Fil for exposing this fraud! Rock 🎸
Paul Stanley who can't sing as he used to, also mimed during the band's (we're done, we mean it, really this time) End of the Road Tour. No joke. Go find a live video on RUclips of KISS playing "Detroit Rock City" or "I was Made for Loving You."
How sad that someone who exerts as much influence as she undoubtedly does is still lying to her audience... I am so glad I grew up in the 70s when "live" music was actually live and, sometimes, the live albums were better than the studio ones because the artists would always inject a little variety into their performances. Now, everything is cloned to the hilt and you can't possibly be caught singing a "bum note"!
That's what made concerts so good back in the 70's and 80's is that human factor. The lead guitarist plays in a slightly different key, the singer plays with the words for a different effect or feel, or any of the members for that fact.
We knew it wasn't going to sound like the album and that's why we were there.
I don’t understand the mindset of young people who will accept lip-synching, auto tune, etc, as, stated by my daughter, ‘it’s the industry standard now” and “who is it hurting”. Wow, the acceptance is mind boggling.
An open society allows analysis and debate like this. Having attended one of the tour stops last night, I am comfortable saying the audience paid for the spectacle of the performance and production. The poetry in the lyrics remains and whatever injury to music as an art might occur by an artist miming so she can dance, the crowd could not have cared less last night.
Two billion!, and this may just be me but..., for something I would not listen to if it was free and really live. Oh well, we did spend money on pet rocks, chia pets and plastic dog poop.
There are some people that would surprise/disappoint me. Taylor Swift was never one of them. She's one that I just assumed didn't sing live.
I've never understood all the fuss over Taylor Swift. While she's definitely an entertainer, I really don't think of her as a singer. That said I do respect her philanthropy and decency. I have no source to cite, but I've also read that she takes care of her employees with decent salaries and benefits. Do with that what you will.
She is a poor mans Juice Newton. Rather horrid IMO.
I haven't watched the video yet, but like someone said before, I think I know what I ll see. Fil has commented already on her on previous performances of her, and if she dances a lot, well, that and singing at the same time is complicated. I also don't understand the enthusiasm about her, but I think she can sing, plus she apparently writes, in the opinion of other songwriters, good songs, ans she must have some talent, I guess. Plus she re recorded her first álbum cause of a problem with her record label. And apparently she is very generous in economic terms with the people that work with her. And she has been in this industry for more than 10 years. Yes, not enough to be a true artist, maybe, and if she told the truth about miming/using pitch correction/autotune, most of her fans would probably be ok with that. But there are cases waaaay worse than this.
She re-recorded all of her albums.
What's the dang hurry to comment before viewing?
@@ichirofakename because I know Fil s channel, and I knew what he said on Taylor s previous performances, and I already imagined this. And because I wanted to, so what s your problem with that? Ok, I dont know why I bother... You re looking for a confrontation, discussion or whatever, fine. I ll just won t answer.
The big question to me is whether she mimes to one or two tracks as she's doing a lot of dancing, or all the tracks. I guess this would require a three-hour analysis video!
Brilliant video Fil, thanks for all the work on this.
There's a saying that goes: "The inferiority of the music is always in proportion to the number of dancers around the singer."
When we play at pubs, the publican likes us to talk up the bar staff so that the punters will buy more beer. We always say “the drunker you are, the better we sound!”
@@rosemarygrundy3539 As a lifelong musician, I know that to be very true.
They’re all doing it anymore. Prince is ashamed of them.
Not everyone is doing it. The first time I ever recorded Skillet in concert on my phone, there are one or two spots where John Cooper’s voice hits notes REALLY flat, but that (as all Wings of Pegasus fans know) is part of singing! There is a performance on RUclips of The Naked and Famous singing “Laid Low,” and she’s pitchy, which makes me like the performance even more, because it’s honest.
I don't even have to watch the video to know the answer. It's like asking did Mariah Carey lip sync that song 🤔
Are we going to need to start a GoFundMe for a Fil Force Five security team?
To quote Fil from another video "As we know, in the music industry now, performing means "moving"". This won't sway the swifties from their near cultish fandom of Taylor. They will gladly shell out how ever much a ticket costs to see her. Sadly, this isn't just the case with Taylor. So many concert goers are clueless that this is such a widespread issue, and even many of the ones who know about it would rather hear a fake, mimed, pitch perfect "performance" than to hear a real human voice with all of its imperfections.
[Que Old Blue Eyes...... ] 🎶Send in the trolls 🎵That's our man, Fil bringing objective fact and we are here for it.
Send in the trolls was the first thing I thought of too. Gonna be a LOOOOONG Troll Corner on Tuesday's Live Stream. 😵💫
@@Elaine_ParhamovichThe list would be as long as the Trans Canada highway, which is very long.
@@Elaine_Parhamovich ... 😅 Fil may have to forgo all of his usual friendly banter, just to address what is sure to be some very upset Swifties.
@@NinjaKittyBonksIt will likely cover more artists and bands, which will not be a surprise.
@@dwaynewladyka577 ... This is just one more piece of the facade being taken down to expose what is industry wide and end up exposing a TON of artists. Doesn't really surprise anyone, as dancing around the stage for 1.5hrs. is gonna be darned exhausting, so there is no way the voice would not suffer because of it. Many wont care and others will simply rage out and, as Elaine mentioned above... the Troll Corner is gonna be a busy one 😸
I’ve done a very similar analysis a few weeks ago on Beyonce, Mariah Carey and Christina Aguilera. Only the latter seems to exclusively perform with real live vocals all the times, except for sporadic televised performances from the 90s when she first appeared in the industry. It’d be interesting to see your thoughts on her.
Check out "From Lara With Love".
A 1999 filmed concert of Lara Fabian. Real talent.
Meanwhile, at the RRHOF inductions' ceremony, no sign of ANY vocal trickery but boy oh boy - and I'm not one bit ashamed of saying this - there were a few cases where they could've used it to spare us of the cringe-fest. 😂
Two or three years ago I think it was Styx and Foreigner where coming to town and someone asked if I was going. I said no, I saw them live in the 70's and 80's when they were the original line ups and in their prime, and at nearly 70 I don't think Tommy Shaw and James Young can hit the notes they did 40 some odd years ago.
@@kallsop2 - The problem is that the "performers" I was talking about were not the inductees but rather some of the guests who were invited to replace them.
You're right. You've done all you can do to prove it. There's nothing else you can do.
I love your content. I watch all of your videos, I rarely comment. Despite the fact that, as ever, you come across fair and objective, this video is the first time I've ever been concerned about your safety and wellbeing. Which is absolutely *mental*
Swift has created a cult. Very clever marketing strategy based on niceness. It is almost eerie to hear the isolated slow down vocal.
The eras tour movie shown on disney plus had all the vocals re-recorded in the studio.
I think it’s a bit disingenuous for others in the comments to draw a conclusion from this video’s one example that she is miming the entire 3.5 hours she performs on tour. I do think there are songs in her setlist, like Style here, that she relies on a track to perform over to keep her voice healthy for the tour. She sings for the majority and it’s a good time overall. Her fans know she’s a good singer, but not a top tier vocalist. I got good seats for the tour at a decent price. If we’re discussing price issues that should be on the monopoly Ticketmaster has over the industry and allowing dynamic pricing. Yall complain so much about an artist who stays in her lane and puts on a type of show her fans want to see. If that ain’t your style of music/live show then cool. But many in the comments here seem to be foaming at the mouth to validate their dislike or hate of her and her fan base over this. Kinda crazy, but just support your fav artists and get off the hate train you’ll be a lot happier.
„Maybe they are happy that she doesn‘t sing.“ 😂 Well said, Fil!
Fil, thank you for being a bastion of authentic and genuine music, and for protecting us all from misleading profit-mongers.
Please do another song from another era. It is no secret that the vocals from the backing track are turned up a lot during the 1989 set. This has been obvious at least since the release of the tour movie.
I suggest champagne problems since it's mostly vocals and piano.
yes! and the surprise songs 🤩
I was thinking All Too Well would be a good choice too
Some justify the use of tricks by the fact that it is a performance and it is not easy to sing and dance. The best memories I have are those of the Performances of the last three tours of Tina Turner at 50, 60 and 70. Two hours of singing and dancing show. People like Taylor Swift and many other young self-styled "artists" should be ashamed to go on stage and also get paid.
The pertinent questions here include what do the fans who attend her live performances think about what she is doing and not doing on stage. Do THEY know she's miming? Do they even CARE if she is miming? What would they think about TS miming to a pre-recorded audio file that has been heavily pitch corrected or even autotuned? Do they mind being at a live performance that is depriving them of her beautiful natural voice? Are they okay with all of the hype - real and otherwise - that surrounds her ERAS tour? And, most importantly when it comes to understanding what is happening within the music industry as a whole, are they okay with being deceived.
The answers to those questions are the ones that really matter when thinking about how we real music lovers should go about fighting back against the deception and destructive practices that have become the music industry standard operating procedures.
I'd venture a guess and say her fans either don't care or don't believe she's lip synching.
@@abc456f But, I think it's important to hear from them, right?
@@elizabethmiller7291 They have no bearing on the truth.
@@abc456f But, that misses my point. If we are going to fight back effectively and successfully against the destructive practices that have become the music industry standard and save real music from oblivion, we have to fully understand exactly what the problem is and why so many music lovers don't see it the way we do...
@@elizabethmiller7291 Don't you think it's a generational issue? This is all her fans know. I believe it's up to the parents of these kids to expose them to what real music is, not this pre-packaged vanilla entertainment.
Brilliant. Would anybody care to wager how long this analysis piece will be on RUclips before deletion? LOL
That's why I'm watching it now, less than an hour since release. 😄
Hmmm... Taylor Swift had a huge tour in Australia recently. Very expensive tickets for an arena tour. One holding 40,000 in Sydney alone! I saved up some money and bought a few tickets. What great shows.
Kreator and Cradle Of Filth were on point and LIVE ... two amazing concerts and still had change 😍🤘
Fil is fearless snd hopefully he and this technology will FIX modern music snd shake it back into reality
Great video as always. My niece adores Taylor and started playing piano two years ago because of her. I'm not surprised that she mimes but ultimately I think she is a force for good, even if I don't like her music. It's not written for dudes like me anyway.
Clearly all the people who say it’s impossible to sing and dance have never seen a live Broadway musical. Watch someone like Sutton Foster perform.
All this is making me start to wonder about THAT, too. It's not an easy task. Many years ago, I worked on some shows with Donald O'Conner. He was getting older and the dancing was more subdued than in his glory days, but he was huffing and puffing like crazy after every bit.
This will either go viral very quickly or be pulled down very quickly.
My daughter and wife went last night. I already was pretty certain a fair amount of the big radio pieces with choreography involved tracks with a live mic on top. I did see some video mg wife took of the acoustic section/ it was clear she was really singing ; so it’s not a function of she “can’t” sing ; but I agree- paying hundreds (or thousands in many cases) and getting a big chunk that’s not 100% live can seem to be less than honest if not downright fraud.
She has addressed her security during a live performance. While she is addressing her security she is still singing at the same time. To have the ability to talk and sing at the same time is absolutley incredible. So, really no need for a breakdown of her vocals. However, I'm glad you did anyways for even more proof of this fake singer.
The lead vocals clearly stopped when she was yelling at the security. Please. 😅
Didn’t Michael Jackson sing live and dance at the same time ?
Dave has been a professional performer and has undoubtedly can recognize a technically identical performance
Awesome!
Thanks from Australia Fil.
I haven’t went to a concert in years. I will be seeing David Gilmour next week. I would be disappointed if a musician of his caliber lip synced, especially since the tickets were very expensive.
Rest assured David Gilmour does not lip-sync
I haven't *been? I haven't *gone?
@@Fedorevsky I wouldn’t think so either. I saw Pink Floyd in 1994.
as a swiftie, i confirm that she's not the best vocalist. she even recognizes herself as a songwriter first rather than a singer. through the years, she has improved A LOT. and yes, i understand that she's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's okay! i always suggest to listen to albums like folklore/evermore, really chill/indie/alternative style with great lyrics as well, and pretty different from everything that she has ever done before. love your videos!!
It’s adorable that you think she writes her own songs.
@@violetlondon5497 you can check on the credits on every song and her name will always be on all of them. she even has an entire album (speak now) written all by herself at the age of 19. but just because you don't like someone's work doesn't mean you have to discredit it like that! have a great day
THANK YOU Fil!!! This is great! 🤘🏽
Fil, to demonstrate how each vocal performance is like a signature (never the same), analyse an older, one take song from say the 50s/60s, where they couldn't comp the vocals, ergo, recorded in one take, then compare the choruses of said song to demonstrate how they differ. No chorus should match up unless same one used. (compd etc). Keep up the good work
In a few years we will be analyzing how perfect the artist mimes - using the monitor miming software 😢
One of the things that jumped out at me in the Dukes of September vids is how intense Jon Herington looks during his lead guitar work. No visual excess showboating, strutting, etc. I'm no musician, but that seems to be a sign of a true live performance.