Worst ICF blow out I have had in years and its on a stem wall of all things 🙄
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While pouring a ICF wall we have a blow out stay tuned to see how we deal with it and the out come
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Tell your man it's not a concrete rake. It's a come-a-long. 😄
Come-a-long is what you pull a tree with or truck out the mud! Hold my beer! No it’s not bud light!
I’m not an expert but only learning about ICF construction. On another channel they recommended using a sharpie and write a giant X at any splice locations that need to strapped to avoid the blow out you experienced. Just thought I would pass this on. Thanks for making this video.
I put 500 gallons in my 1000 gallon septic and I still ended up with a gigantic concrete fishing bobber
That must have one big assed turd to be fishing with a bobber that size. 💩
"There She Blows" The great Brown Whale.💩
Ffs, concrete should always be vibrated. That was sbout as lazy and 'don't give a F' concrete as I've seen in a long time.
Arthur is a concrete expert! Bet you have never seen an ICF in your life buddy....
You are correct, I am a certified Nudura installer. Worst blow out I ever had was with a 8’ whip down in a wall lost 1/2 a yard atleast. One second to long with a real concrete vibrator and it’s a disaster.
@cali gdp Just an FYI - even an expert like you might learn something...
From Nudura concrete placement directions (industry standard for decades):
"Consolidated concrete will be dense, homogenous, and free of cold joints, voids, and honeycombing. The concrete
shall be well bonded to all reinforcing steel, anchors, and embedded parts, such as bearing plates. In the past, the
ICF industry has commonly accepted hand-tamping, rodding or external vibration as adequate means for concrete
vibration. However, historical experience has shown that these methods are not adequate to assure maximum reduced
risk of honeycombing or voids developing within the concrete. Of all available methods, internal mechanical concrete
vibration is the most effective method to use to assure the highest level of monolithic consolidation. Consolidation
of the concrete should always start at the base of the wall and continue upward as each concrete lift is placed. The
completed lift should be consolidated before the next lift is deposited.
When consolidating subsequent lifts, the consolidating tool must completely penetrate the lift and extend into the
upper portion of the previously placed lift, to ensure proper mixing of the concrete at the interface between lifts.
A 3/4” (19 mm) to 1” (25 mm) concrete vibrator is the maximum size recommended for consolidating concrete in a
NUDURA wall. Be sure that the shaft length of the vibrator is long enough to reach the bottom of the wall height being
constructed."
@@kgriff087 Well, maybe Nudura are experts with their own ICF?
"Consolidated concrete will be dense, homogenous, and free of cold joints, voids, and honeycombing. The concrete
shall be well bonded to all reinforcing steel, anchors, and embedded parts, such as bearing plates. In the past, the
ICF industry has commonly accepted hand-tamping, rodding or external vibration as adequate means for concrete
vibration. However, historical experience has shown that these methods are not adequate to assure maximum reduced
risk of honeycombing or voids developing within the concrete. Of all available methods, internal mechanical concrete
vibration is the most effective method to use to assure the highest level of monolithic consolidation. Consolidation
of the concrete should always start at the base of the wall and continue upward as each concrete lift is placed. The
completed lift should be consolidated before the next lift is deposited.
When consolidating subsequent lifts, the consolidating tool must completely penetrate the lift and extend into the
upper portion of the previously placed lift, to ensure proper mixing of the concrete at the interface between lifts.
A 3/4” (19 mm) to 1” (25 mm) concrete vibrator is the maximum size recommended for consolidating concrete in a
NUDURA wall. Be sure that the shaft length of the vibrator is long enough to reach the bottom of the wall height being
constructed."
Man Behind the Scenes told me them stem walls took longer because he wasn't there carrying you guys on his back. Any truth to that?
U said get paid for sq ft, did u mean linear feet? Jw I've done a few ICF b4 up here in Central indiana
No square foot
how awesome was the concrete truck divers skills!
I love your attitude! It isn't about not making mistakes. It is about being able to fix any mistakes you make! Thanks for sharing this video. It will help someone else!
Thanks
The thumbnail made it look much bigger. I thought it was a massive blowout from a full sized wall! LOL!
If it was easy everyone would be doing it
One thing about concrete is that it gives you 1 chance to build it right or it'll show you what you need to do next time
I have a question on ICF. We are having a house built the contractor is using ICF for the foundation (walk out basement). They started pouring this week and experienced a bad blowout. Had to to stop the pour. They poured 1 and 1/2 walls and filled 3 ft high with concrete. They are telling me that they are going to continue pouring this week and will now have a cold joint in the wall. The walls are 10 foot tall and I’m worried about having a cold joint in the wall. They are telling me while it’s not ideal but it will be fine with all the vertical and horizontal steel and exterior water proofing. Should I be concerned?
No not if there’s rebar in it and they don’t have any voids when done
Thank you for your response. This makes me feel better about it! Love the channel!
Unless your channel has turned into one of those neatly orchestrated ( and testosterone over-driven) pieces of "reality" cable crap shows stuff will only rarely fit neatly into a XX minute format with some stupid cliffhanger bit at the end. Yours is a REAL, ACTUAL WARTS AND ALL show that makes those cable formula shows out for what they are; tofu for the easily entertained.
Don't sweat the unplanned irregularities that show up; exceedingly few of us are here for Pablum & strained peas. We came for the equipment and the people, we stay for the ever-changing Content where no two jobs are going to fit neatly. You guys rock (concrete and mud a bit too)!!!
Amazing job by the truck drivers pouring into those narrow forms. 👍
Matt has been getting better with commentary. He is a good addition to the crew and channel.
Put several 1000 gallon holding tanks at a cottage division at nearby lake,one was beside a shed with no evestroughs,he had it pumped out in the fall,come spring it was floating a foot higher,a 1000 gallon concrete tank! When installing fiberglass or poly septic tanks always put water in them quick,except the deep burial ones.
Front dump mixers make so much sense. I wish we had them Midwest rual Area but they are very expensive. We are obviously are not in a Very high populated area to justify
Hey Mike, I completely understand that when it is a big job, its not going to be a 1 or even 2 videos. Don't worry, we will be still watching if it is 3, 4 or even 5! BTW, you can get Matt one of those bummer stickers for his ICF blow out, "S*** HAPPENS! :)
Thanks Ron
There’s always a hiccup every now and then but you overcome it and move on. Looking forward to seeing the next video.
Doing a dirty job, a blow out and everyone is laughing WOW how cool !!
The one thing about those walls you cant say it dont have plenty of insulation. Its on both sides of the wall so its for sure insulated
Yup
They use to rate them at a r 40 but that was 15 years ago
You had a blowout if I wasn't in the trades some people might think it's a good thing we know it's not lol :-) :-)
Lol
Worst
My next house will be a rectangle.
DP, How about you "create" a more narrow "vee" shaped end to chute for a more detailed wall pour? , Thanks for all your entertainment and education.
If you can find a dog halo collar and then attach a vinyl hose to the bottom of it so the mud drops straight down a 4” hose, it’s pretty easy and works like a pump truck without the price tag
Worst blowout I ever had was after a 12 pack and eating Mexican...
Lol
13:35 All the Pepsi you drink you couldn't feel that LOL
It always goes good if the concrete truck driver knows what hes doing.
Plus the barbarians are attacking. This can't be good.
What's going on top of all these 2' concrete walls? Is this a duplex? Trying to figure out the reason for the cement wall running thru the center of the house? If you're putting like a 2x6" finish atop the ICF work to the ceiling joists. What's covering the ICF on the exterior!?? Just curious. Curious build
Grage
Yikes, you may want to consider building with RSG-3D. Its inverted ICF. Its a 500 year system.
Absolutely not plz think about that comment
Hey DP, a quick question about the USA flags in your shop why the difference in color? What are there meanings? Btw great video, God Bless and have a great day Sir.
Yes represent different departments
Have you seen this video ICF Wall failure then Repair.(DON'T DO THIS EVER!!!!)It is on RUclips
No
ICFs are hard to find in the PNW this year, wanted to try Nudera for my build, only able to source Build Block. Does anyone have experience w or review of build Block?
Block is ok I will never use them the company sucks
You had too much coffee, perhaps? Getting motion sick from the flash pans. If you must pan, don't. 🤣
Hey DP.. What about turning the skil saw blade backwards? Might work better for cutting the ICF. Keep up the awesome vids
It don’t have tried thanks
I really don’t want this build to end, hoping there are plenty more. Great video as always Mr DP.
Thanks
Was this the place that you built the pond about new years last year?
Had the same issues with intersecting walls like that and really the corners in general, started putting 2 foot sections of OSB from top to bottom, seemed to solve the problem.
AMVIC makes and ICF Tee block which has good web strength
That’s the driver you want in every truck!
We do right cuz we do it twice.
all the concrete you pour I'm surprised you dont have the elephant trunk that connects to the truck chutes....maybe @jasonworksalot can fab one for you lol
We do
Take some scrap wood and make an open box than narrows the shoot off the truck. It could hang off the hooks. Save having two people being edge guides.
Covered that very well in the other videos check them out thanks
Why not pour the concrete with a pump??
We do when needed watch other videos
That would be pumping concrete not pour
Why didn’t you guys vibrate more? Did the mix get everywhere it was supposed to?
Yes have covered that very well in the other videos
I liked watching this project. Not burned out from watching it at all.
Thanks
I think the blowout was more about skipping the vibration part to get an even spread.
No sir
Those icf are a lot easier then the old western alum forms 3ft by 9ft set them pour them strip them rerack them and you know you put in a couple hard days work .
Ours was 3x8 alum and ya hard work set pour on Monday strip set pour tues wens thrus Friday and strip on sat
Good afternoon. I like to get in touch with you and ask you some questions, how can I reach out to you??
Mike@dirtperfect1.com
About the drain field for the septic do you have to have a PERC test before putting it in or does local code let you decide where and how to place it
Both
Do you show Jerry giving you hell again?LOL .good video.
Always always stand a 2x6 and vertical brace. Plumb. Nice simple pour... then bam!
Don’t work sorry
A time you any a T wall or intersection you always brace the long wall. It has the most pressure. I’m sure you’ve done many of these.
Is this the house that you came back and built a pond in the front yard? Had to dig a key almost all the way along the road.
Yes
That’s how you handle pressure💪💪
Thanks
👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🙏🏻 Enjoyed! Good job, well done. Do you pour the floors?
Shame but you definitely did the right thing in calling it a day, you never know what damage an out of shape plough would have caused to your dozer. Think your right, the 8" plough was a lot better. 👍🤗
Both are extensive and way to costly. Use AAC block solutions and you are done in hours ready for the next floor.
Ahh do some research not the same thing at all
@@DirtPerfect I done more than you ever will, because I use ACC since over 20 years here in Florida and around the Globe in construction.
Great job they're dirt perfect like always. I have a question for you dare perfect how much does it cost for that ICF compared to putting up plywood sheets. I know the ICF has insulation value but I was just curious about the cost per square foot. ?
Well if you don't get blowouts a lot your doing good Mike is Jerry & Mat and new guy Says Brian in the running for Employ of the year .. look out Captain & M.B.T.C .LOL
Reminds me of a job back in 1973 on the Maryland DC line. We were shoring up an existing building to excavate 4 stories next to it. We were using 4x6 ft columns on one side and on the back there was a dirt shelf left that allowed us to form up and pour under the existing building. As we were pouring the form broke loose and my friend and boss yelled for someone to take the chain saw and cut the city sign down and bring it over asap. It was 6x8 aluminum 'Welcome to DC' mounted on wood poles. We quickly screwed it on and reinforced it and successfully completed the pour. This was on the corner of Western and Wisconsin Ave's. Not even sure if that building is still there. Guess the city wondered where their sign went.
Until '08 I was a sub involved in new home construction here in central.Alabama. Because of our ground here and all the tornados full basements are very desired. Lots of excavation and most every house I worked in had a poured wall foundation. Even though all my work didn't start until the house was "dried in" I was always curious about everything. ICF still isn't used here, instead steel forms set up by one company and another to pour the concrete, all 6k psi. Three days later a bit of water proofing, back fill, then framing.
Thanks for filling me in on your part.
now i see why a pump truck is a good idea, saddest concrete pour i've seen.
Lol have seen much and from the comment don’t now much thanks for the good lol 😂 I appreciate it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hydraulic pressure is a MFER. Can hurt you when you least expect it.. But at least it was a quick fix
D A M N !
I hate it when that happens. Talking about high stress and working in high gear to recover as much as can be and then there is the clean up.
Whispering :Psssssst when 'they' are not looking sweep it under the carpet or carport. 😄
You guy's should definitely be wearing some rubber gloves when pouring/handeling concrete...not that easy to get concrete burns on your hands but, you definitely could on the backside/top of your hands through the pores in your skin.
I enjoy your videos and another video on this job would be great especially if it included Jerry making art with that DOZER.
Could make a boot for the end of the chute, pour it at a six. easy money. I don't really miss those types of pours, but you can knock it out pretty fast if you know what you're doing. You can tell it wasn't the first drivers first day by how he treated the transition at 20:00
What kind of vibrator was that on the drill you used?
External concrete vibrator
Finally finished "Boom". If you had an 1:30 video no problem for me I'll watch it . I've watch 3hr videos and lives . Keep'em coming I'll be watching.
So Mr. Millennials version of perfect dirt is sand? I'm thinking there is the generational breakdown in communications. Ya' all better straighten him out there.
lol some of the biggest blow outs are the smallest form jobs. Great job sir!!
Yup I agree
good video
My wife wasn't interested in this video until 14:37
Lol
Ha I’m A little slow. I just got it.
Love these ICF video's as the process is still not that common here in the UK, already waiting for the next!!
Thanks
I live on the Central coast California, and there's a lot of people that don't know about ICF . I visit Coeur d'Alene Idaho a lot, and you still don't see them used much,
You pour way too fast and should flow back and forth, a pump is better, and your t wall bracing is adorable, no wonder that blew out
Sorry you don’t understand what you watched
@@DirtPerfect lol yeah I've only done over 40 houses and apartment buildings and never had a wall bulge out much less blow out, but yeah I don't understand 😂
I have used cement board over the water sealing, put in my drainage and backfilled before the pour.
I also put half inch or five eighths plyweed that stays on the interior wall
I don't know if he was educating you or you was educating him or I was getting educated by both of you yeah it was good yeah you got to watch out for that concrete it'll run right over top of you for sure if you ain't careful oh by the way I guess you heard about the White House getting attacked today yeah but the idiots dang I don't know what's wrong with people anymore but anyway back to the show yeah this is good educational for sure I hope your family is doing real well you seems to be pretty good with that cement truck what's good to see you getting all the concrete sit down what's that a barn up there or what is it a garage or something besides that me beside that maybe you can tell me what it is but the concrete looking good got it done can't wait to see when you get it done it's going to be nice for sure well thanks for the good video my friend I enjoyed that got a good education out of it better than going to the White House and seeing all that mess that's for sure I don't know what's wrong with people anymore you take care of Ali will see you soon on the videos catch you later
How do you fasten your pushbacks?
Screw
25:06, "Pretty good" ISN'T the proper answer. Concrete Perfect is the proper answer!😅😂🤣😆 Great video Mr. Dirt Perfect, & crew!
Thanks buddy
Why ain't yall vibrating the concrete .
Watch the other videos cover that
Momma said there'd be days like this, and boy was she right.
And she under estimated it too😄
@@Fatamus And then some.
So you like angles??? Or no?? Great job guys!!!
Lol i am good for a while
I didn't understand the title to this video until I got to see the problem, I was thinking...there is enough bracing and inner structure to hold the cement and the wall is only half as tall...then the "aha" moment when you show the splice and what you cut out on the inside to make the "T".
Mike Matt and Robbie you guys are a good team but we still miss Aaron and Capitan lol Love the video's keep them coming.
Your septic feild to me looks around 2/3 feet too high just by the way it looks. ,,,your wanting all the water to seep out the bottom of it ? ..deeper you go the better and more forgiving the septic will be overall
Not for sure what your looking at but a year later still working awesome sorry to disappoint you 🤷♂️
And that not true we have a limiting lay that defines how deep it can go have several videos about it I would suggest checking them out Thanks
@@DirtPerfect I went back and rewatched....dude..I want your projects to be a success? where did you twist that idea from.....you know how when you take a piss..like outside....notice how you dont have to later deal with that piss again? parallel that your last comment... but dude cmon? you put almost zero effort in that septic....you walked up and tossed it out right there in the way? i would have placed it someplace tucked in the back.. depending on water table..you could have made a small footprint but just as big or bigger by digging down? silly to argue with a guy who doesn't get that we all know the endgame on taking a piss... you and your above ground septic ideas.... god bless you sir and happy holidays!!! oh..if you want to pratter on, i encourage, but could you get us a photo of the end result .sorta from the front door or close to foundation looking out into the feild with that whole rolla septic you did dead center...much appreciated!!
Big house big foot print equals big job. Plus septic and drains. Hope we get to see the house down the road. On to the next job.
Top gedaan ziet er goed uit 🤩👍 Groetjes uit Holland 👋🏼👋🏼
Dirt almost Perfect Only the destination counts. How you get there doesn't matter. Some days are like making sausage.
Belt sander
It's crazy how much different the codes are. Here you can pretty much put in field line in what. Mine is in solid rock.
I have done so little cement work that I can't say boo on it but one end I can and that is buckets and blowouts... the reason god made orphans was hard work got a bigger plate. I was a hard way to serve the Lord.
Good job
Lookin good as always Mike, always fun watching Jerry work, he’s truly an artist with that dozer.
I sent some potential work your way. Have a friend who’s got a garage building pad in need of some work in Derby on Tide Road, think it might be kind of close to your shop. I passed him your name and he said he was going to have you come take a look.
So, what is the advantage of using these walls?
Way to may to list
woh. no pump truck. you way out in the boonies or what?
Watch other videos thanks
It's a DeWalt of course the battery is dead
Lol
Too bad they didn’t need a a Doggie door. That would have been to perfect opportunity to give the customer an upgrade!
Aside from that ... the job seemed to go rather darn well!
Mikey... stem walls vs. tall walls are like children. Everyone knows little babies take more work that older ones... however, both of them cause equal amounts of stress in their mentors!
lol all very true
I’ve enjoyed watching all the videos on this job. Look forward to watching it wrap up. It would be cool if you could do a follow up and show us the house now or complete.
Thanks by and hope to
I think that You guys need to read instruction FIRST
Lol what the hell you talking about love guys like you that have know idea 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😝
Thanks for watching much appreciated makes my day
@@DirtPerfect I've done lots of Logix ICF - education helps
Wouldn’t it help doing it in small lifts half a foot at a time to prevent a blowout? I mean thats how i seen it done before.
Absolutely not necessary
@@DirtPerfect ok 👍
Really enjoyed this project. Definitely wouldn't have gotten burnt out on it. Thanks 👍
You make it look easy...As a contractor for over 30 years, I know it ain't...You got lucky on that small blow out......Normal day in the business...:)
Thanks