Ls-40 was the stick used in neo geo machines in Japan which was a system full of fighting games , it's younger brother ls-32 was the stick used in street fighter 2 in Japan for that reason I do not understand when ppl say seimitsu are not for fighting games xD , sanwa its the most popular stick because it's more tolerant to unintentionally inputs while seimitsu it' more precise, more stiff, has higher tension, quick return to neutral, and has lower through as result of shorter shaft. Personally I like seimitsu ls-40 for any arcade games, games that requires quick neutrals like tekken and very technical anime fighting games like guilty gear and kof, for some reason I still prefer sanwa for street fighter games though.
perhaps you shouldn't believe what some nerd says on the internet. Seimitsu products are incredible. The LS-56, LS-62, and LS58 are solid sticks with great performance for fighters.
There is an interesting reason why Sanwa JLF became the most popular stick. Like you said the LS-32 was on SF2 cabinets and in fact the LS-32 (and long ago discontinued near identical LS-25) came with many of the most popular cabinets like the Sega Astro City and New Astro City. I lived in Japan for most of the 90's and there a large Virtua Fighter 2 tournament held all over Japan and Sanwa had gotten a deal to make the JLF a mandatory srick for the tournament in all VF2 cabinets around Japan, and that's how they got their stick everywhere and shortly after most new cabinets started to change to Sanwas. The second reason connected to that was that the JLF is simpler and faster to maintain than the LS-32. When a microswitch went dead the arcade operators just needed to pop the guide off without any tools needed and throw in a new PCB and the guide back in and it was good as new. So the JLF isn't propably the most used because it's better but because it's simpler, faster to service, fool proof, pretty well balanced for any game. I agree that Seimitsus are better overall and higher quality. Seimitsu is also improving and developing great new products today. They just released a silevt version of the LS-40 which is far superior to the silent JLF and also the LSX-NOBI-PRO and the LSX-NOBI-STD. The standard nobi using a ball top is my all time favorite fighting game stick by a mile.
Sanwa factory springs are 1lb springs. Sanwa do replacement springs for a few dollars. I use a 4 lb spring, its very tight. They also do a 2lb spring which I use in racing games. Paired with the 8 way gate, it's great!
How does this compare to a JLF with a Kowal oversized actuator and 2lb spring? I hear that this particular JLF mod works wonders, but that the Seimitsu LS-40 was the commonly used joystick in Japanese Neo-Geo candy cabinets. In America and elsewhere it was the Happ Competition sticks which were used, later becoming the Eurojoystick 2 by Industrias Lorenzo. I mainly play King of Fighters and have been undecided for months as to what to put in my official Pandora's Box 5 by 3A Games.
I don’t have any JLF info but I know for sure a 2lb spring is way too much tension! I think the 2lb spring was used for stand up cabinets with a lot of human traffic with rigorous play. I did play tons of NeoGeo back in the day. Could be my subconscious drawing me back to this particular stick or muscle memory. LOL
you could replace the stock sanwa actuator with thicker kowal actuator for tighter movements. and probably replace the stock spring behind the actuator with a slightly stronger 2 lb spring. there are 2 lb and 4 lb options but 4 lb will wear your palm down much faster (cramps.. yikes).
@@hypersoulgamer i found out about 1.5 pounder and tried it out. It is perfect! It's not exactly for joysticks tho.. the guy i bought it from just said it's suitable for JLF.
Get the 3lbf spring for Jlf from Paradise Aecade shop, I tried, 2, 2.5, 3 and 4 lb 3lb is the best and with Kowal Actuator, if you like to play with a bat top and use your whole hand more though I reccommend the 4LB
I have an idea: stick with a Sanwa JLF joystick lever, a Sanwa ball-top or bat-top, an eight-way restrictor gate and Seimitsu buttons. Sanwa and Hayabusa buttons are oversensitive, the Hayabusa joystick levers are way too loose and the Seimitsu joystick levers are way too stiff.
hey sorry for being late to the party im trying to fit a ls-38 into a hori rap n..... I guess my question is do you have any experience with this stick and the fitment?
Presumably when you fit it horizontally you dont actually have to spin the pcb 90 degrees as when a seimitsu goes in a sanwa harness the direction of the connector is up? I am going to fit one soon and i think i wont need to rotate the pcb on the plate...if you know do tell!
@@hypersoulgamer well ive fitted 2 one vertical (normal) in a hori rap and didnt have to spin the pcb 90 and one horizontally in a mad catz stick and i did have to spin the pcb 90 deg around...both ultimately were easy enough but the hori was just a drop in...
@Stefano Pavone Thanks. It was used at SBO for several years for Capcom games so I am surprised to hear that. I thought the levered switches were supposed to make diagonals easier to hit. I cannot recall using one.
If you ever faced a reverse direction issue ... best bet you installed the stick in reverse. LOL So far the stick is still great! Muscle memory is much improved now. I can’t work with anything else.
@@ahmedpc03 replace the spring with a weaker one. it's the spring inside the joystick actuator that controls the tension of the joystick throw-back. i heard that the LS-32 is prone to this issue, but the LS-40 does not suffer from this because it has smaller deadzone.
Ls-40 was the stick used in neo geo machines in Japan which was a system full of fighting games , it's younger brother ls-32 was the stick used in street fighter 2 in Japan for that reason I do not understand when ppl say seimitsu are not for fighting games xD , sanwa its the most popular stick because it's more tolerant to unintentionally inputs while seimitsu it' more precise, more stiff, has higher tension, quick return to neutral, and has lower through as result of shorter shaft. Personally I like seimitsu ls-40 for any arcade games, games that requires quick neutrals like tekken and very technical anime fighting games like guilty gear and kof, for some reason I still prefer sanwa for street fighter games though.
i need quick neutral
@@Vitaliy_zl for quick neutrals use the Korean sticks, if you have the japonese plate try the crown fj309
perhaps you shouldn't believe what some nerd says on the internet. Seimitsu products are incredible. The LS-56, LS-62, and LS58 are solid sticks with great performance for fighters.
@@Vitaliy_zl I.L Magnetic
There is an interesting reason why Sanwa JLF became the most popular stick. Like you said the LS-32 was on SF2 cabinets and in fact the LS-32 (and long ago discontinued near identical LS-25) came with many of the most popular cabinets like the Sega Astro City and New Astro City.
I lived in Japan for most of the 90's and there a large Virtua Fighter 2 tournament held all over Japan and Sanwa had gotten a deal to make the JLF a mandatory srick for the tournament in all VF2 cabinets around Japan, and that's how they got their stick everywhere and shortly after most new cabinets started to change to Sanwas.
The second reason connected to that was that the JLF is simpler and faster to maintain than the LS-32. When a microswitch went dead the arcade operators just needed to pop the guide off without any tools needed and throw in a new PCB and the guide back in and it was good as new.
So the JLF isn't propably the most used because it's better but because it's simpler, faster to service, fool proof, pretty well balanced for any game.
I agree that Seimitsus are better overall and higher quality. Seimitsu is also improving and developing great new products today. They just released a silevt version of the LS-40 which is far superior to the silent JLF and also the LSX-NOBI-PRO and the LSX-NOBI-STD. The standard nobi using a ball top is my all time favorite fighting game stick by a mile.
Sanwa factory springs are 1lb springs. Sanwa do replacement springs for a few dollars. I use a 4 lb spring, its very tight. They also do a 2lb spring which I use in racing games. Paired with the 8 way gate, it's great!
How does this compare to a JLF with a Kowal oversized actuator and 2lb spring? I hear that this particular JLF mod works wonders, but that the Seimitsu LS-40 was the commonly used joystick in Japanese Neo-Geo candy cabinets. In America and elsewhere it was the Happ Competition sticks which were used, later becoming the Eurojoystick 2 by Industrias Lorenzo. I mainly play King of Fighters and have been undecided for months as to what to put in my official Pandora's Box 5 by 3A Games.
I don’t have any JLF info but I know for sure a 2lb spring is way too much tension! I think the 2lb spring was used for stand up cabinets with a lot of human traffic with rigorous play.
I did play tons of NeoGeo back in the day. Could be my subconscious drawing me back to this particular stick or muscle memory. LOL
you could replace the stock sanwa actuator with thicker kowal actuator for tighter movements. and probably replace the stock spring behind the actuator with a slightly stronger 2 lb spring. there are 2 lb and 4 lb options but 4 lb will wear your palm down much faster (cramps.. yikes).
I experimented with a 4 pounder. No good! I sprained my thumb muscles. LOL
@@hypersoulgamer i found out about 1.5 pounder and tried it out. It is perfect! It's not exactly for joysticks tho.. the guy i bought it from just said it's suitable for JLF.
@@MichaelHarto where can I buy a Sanwa JLF spring for 1.5 pounds? I can't find much on Amazon
Get the 3lbf spring for Jlf from Paradise Aecade shop, I tried, 2, 2.5, 3 and 4 lb
3lb is the best and with Kowal Actuator, if you like to play with a bat top and use your whole hand more though I reccommend the 4LB
I have the thicker kowal actuator but it's still too much deadzone. Do you know where to buy a slightly larger one from by any chance?
I have an idea: stick with a Sanwa JLF joystick lever, a Sanwa ball-top or bat-top, an eight-way restrictor gate and Seimitsu buttons. Sanwa and Hayabusa buttons are oversensitive, the Hayabusa joystick levers are way too loose and the Seimitsu joystick levers are way too stiff.
What her fighting stick name?
hey sorry for being late to the party im trying to fit a ls-38 into a hori rap n..... I guess my question is do you have any experience with this stick and the fitment?
Did you try any 2d fighting games with this lever?
Presumably when you fit it horizontally you dont actually have to spin the pcb 90 degrees as when a seimitsu goes in a sanwa harness the direction of the connector is up? I am going to fit one soon and i think i wont need to rotate the pcb on the plate...if you know do tell!
How did it work out for you?
@@hypersoulgamer well ive fitted 2 one vertical (normal) in a hori rap and didnt have to spin the pcb 90 and one horizontally in a mad catz stick and i did have to spin the pcb 90 deg around...both ultimately were easy enough but the hori was just a drop in...
@@BillB808 hori rapV? My sticks are in delivering and i have a Hori rap v
@@arcimagogix9034 its the best choice on switch...much better than the 8bit do or others..
@@BillB808 i agree, i have to change only the stick in a few days, it will be my first time and i hope it will go well :)
Seimitsu ls40 best for fighting game?
Rart1980 inn yes! I’ve enjoyed. It took about 50 fights to get used to the movement.
@@hypersoulgamer
Thanks!
@Stefano Pavone Could you elaborate on what you mean by sloppy?
@Stefano Pavone Thanks. It was used at SBO for several years for Capcom games so I am surprised to hear that. I thought the levered switches were supposed to make diagonals easier to hit. I cannot recall using one.
souu its like a circular motion ? no square no octagonal i want to try this
Yes! You will like it.
Did you force your wife to film this for you lmao
What did you find for fighting games?
Tiago Fernandes SF5
@@hypersoulgamer no, I mean if you use this stick for any fighting game?
Tiago Fernandes I’m strictly street fighter 4 liiiiife.
@@hypersoulgamerHow is it for SFV and 6?
do you faced any directions reversed issue with the ls-40 ?
If you ever faced a reverse direction issue ... best bet you installed the stick in reverse. LOL
So far the stick is still great! Muscle memory is much improved now. I can’t work with anything else.
@@hypersoulgamer i mean like the hayabusa issue
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@@ahmedpc03 replace the spring with a weaker one. it's the spring inside the joystick actuator that controls the tension of the joystick throw-back.
i heard that the LS-32 is prone to this issue, but the LS-40 does not suffer from this because it has smaller deadzone.
Mountain plate xD
Great stick but too sensitive for fighting game.
8-Beats VGM I agree. I was on a losing streak for 2 days but I got used to it! It’s actually awesome. The buttons are very sensitive.
@@hypersoulgamer
Thanks!
Throw all of that away in the bin and buy a Perfect 360 Joystick