DJI Osmo Pocket 3 | How to Color Grade D-Log M Footage Like a Pro
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- Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2023
- In this video I show you the entire process of how to grade d-log m footage from the DJI Osmo Pocket 3. My goal is to make this process simple you and show you how to do this without needing to purchase any LUTs. The best part is with this process you get to decide how to customize your footage from your DJI Osmo Pocket 3 and give it the look, feel, and mood that you desire.
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Very nice explanation thanks
Thank you
Awesome! I’m here to learn without the fear of being asked to BUY LUT’s. I wanted to know how to do it myself. Here it is. So thank you for that mate. Appreciate it.
Appreciate your feedback!
Been really enjoying your pocket 3 videos! Really well put together. Thank you!
Great to hear and thank you for your feedback!
New (real new) to grading - thank you for the walk thru, now I gotta give it a try.
You’re welcome. I think you’ll find that grading is a great way to add additional creativity and uniqueness to your finished product.
I gave a like as soon as you said you are not gonna try to sell us any LUTs 🥳!
Thank you!
Thanks for this tutorial!! Appreciates it!!
You’re welcome!
Great tutorial, clear and concise, thank you
Thank you.
Thanks for the detailed video!
You’re welcome!
This is fantastic. Thank you.
You’re welcome and I appreciate your feedback.
Thanks for the information... Great. What's happening editing footage filmed with a Sony camera and DJI OSmo pocket 3...??? Can I have the same color without differences??? Thank you for answering.
Is it possible to take d log m from action 4 and colour grade it on the iPhone using. Dji Mimo app or lightcut or straight in the photos app?
Thanks for this :)
You’re welcome.
hi, at the start when you select rec709 as the colour space, for 4k video would it be better to work in rec2020? thanks
hello sir . So you dont reccomend using the official conversion lut? i would also like to see best export settings for vertical instagram videos
Such a great Video! Thank a lot. Can you make sample Log footage vailable to download? I couldnt find anywhre on the internet. Thank you :)
Would be interesting to compare your custom color grading to the ‘Normal’ profile side by side
Yes, I have compared some clips I shot on Normal to my graded footage. Here are the main differences I observed:
- The graded footage is less saturated than the Normal profile.
- The graded footage has more contrast in the shadows and highlights.
- The graded footage does not look overly sharp.
- The graded footage has a bit more of an appearance that it came from a higher end camera such as an APS-C Sony camera. I won’t go as far as to say it looks like full frame footage.
Ty ❤❤❤
You’re welcome!
Michael. I admire your work and I follow both podcasts. At the end of this episode, you ask "What are they doing to get so many viewers?" If I could answer this question, I would say while I know we all need to make money, I absolutely despise advertisements. I pay for RUclips Premium for a reason. Not all, but many other shows will place ads in the beginning or in the end. You not only place them everywhere, but your ads are also sooooooooo damn long! I watch podcast episodes on my phone, tablet, computer, and on my 65-inch TV. I'll watch at home, listen in the car or at the gym, and while I'm working but It takes your show from a 10 to a 6 for me since I have to constantly fast-forward through your ads. Anyway, thanks for another good episode.
Did you make this comment on a video other than what you intended to?
good video
Thank you
Your edited footage provides a visual experience that offers a sense of aesthetic pleasure.If you're willing to tell your fans which camera you use for recording, that would be great
Certainly. I use the Sony a7S III with the Sigma 25-70mm F2.8 lens: amzn.to/3HtRF2J
I really like this lens with this camera for this type of filming.
@@GreatDayForAHike You're very welcome! Looking forward to your next update.
great job! I like the way, you positioned your talking-head cam and how you move your head to the camera. Much better than the currently hyped two-cam shots, just front and side cams.
Is there a way to save your settings as a LUT? I am using FCPX
Thank you, I appreciate your feedback!
There is a way to save the settings as a LUT. It’s pretty easy to do so in Adobe Premiere Pro but if I recall correctly, it’s a bit more complicated to do so in Final Cut Pro and may involve the need for a third party tool to do so in FCPX. I do own a Mac and sometimes video edit on it so I’ll see if I can play around with that and find the easiest way to create LUTs. I’ll create a quick video on that if I do.
@@GreatDayForAHike just checked: I can save all made settings as an effect an can re-use it
@TripleU-E Perfect. The great part about creating your own is you can fine-tune the exact look you like, save it, and then re-use it over and over. Being able to create multiple different themes and save them to use over and over is also great.
How do we transfer large file from microsd to iPhone without interruptions
Great !! i need more videos for go pro 12, max 2 mood lenses please
I’m doing a lot of experimenting and playing around with the Hero 12 this week. I’ll have more Hero 12 content incoming.
@@GreatDayForAHike thanks
Great video! I know this is a little off-topic but Have you heard of any issues in Europe about the pocket 3 overheating? I want to upgrade to the pocket 3 but I’m a little hesitant because I am seeing videos pop up with overheating issues.
Thanks! I have seen a few reports of overheating with this camera. I have not personally experienced any overheating with this camera and I film in 4K60 much of the time. To those that have reported overheating, I would recommend they ensure that they have the proper microSD card that has the needed read and write speeds. DJI has a list of recommended cards. In this type of camera that doesn’t depend upon electronic image stabilization not having the proper spec microSD card is probably the biggest source of abnormal heat generation. At the same time, any camera that is capable of recording at these resolutions and frame rates is likely to have some overheating under the right conditions (really warm temperatures; little to no airflow/the camera is stationary; recording a single, continuous clip for a lengthy time such as 20 mins or longer vs several shorter clips). I’ll definitely report to the community here if I do experience any overheating issues. I’ll be using it a good bit this week and sharing some low light samples, and more, soon.
Hi bro, please make an explanation video about HLG mode, its difference with D-log M, and how to grade HLG video shots. Thanks.
Absolutely. I’ve got this on my list.
I second this. I'm working with HLG footage and it's a nightmare lol.
@Matt_Cook Yes it’s a bit trickier to work with and figure out but once you get it you’ll love it.
amazing video!! I see two adjustment layers at the end when exporting ???? did you not only put one down ?
Thank you and good catch! While filming I had also tested a layer with the free LUT DJI provides on that layer to compare it to my grading but that part of the video I filmed didn’t make the cut. I didn’t like what the LUT from DJI did to the footage and I wanted to keep this video focused on teaching how to grade the footage. That clip was one that showed the additional layer and that layer was disabled but not deleted in that scene.
Appreciate the speedy response and I've already tested out colour grading. Need to play around bit more but started shooting in d-log all thanks to this video!!! just need to build the confidence. Thank you! Maybe a video on creating LUTS of some sort or even achieving certain looks in your video !!? @@GreatDayForAHike
@a1soldier You’re welcome. Yes, that’s a great idea for a future video. I’ll keep that in mind.
Great video ! I wonder why you mention to be in H264 as it is a 8-bit profil, instead of the HEVC which is 10-bit ?
Thanks. If you are referring to the section at the end where I show export settings, it is recommended to export in H.264 for RUclips. H.264 exporting does support the 10-bit color gamut. H.264 and HEVC are compression methods that are exclusive of the 8-bit and 10-bit color gamut. Not all H.264 is 8-bit only in other words.
However, separate and unrelated to the export settings in Adobe Premiere Pro, if you film using the H264 codec in Normal Color mode on the Osmo Pocket 3 you will only get 8-bit footage. If you use the HEVC codec on the Osmo Pocket 3 you will get 10-bit footage.
Hope this helps clear that up.
@@GreatDayForAHike thank you so much ! So HEVC for 10-bit film on my PO3, post-treatment on LumaFusion on my iPad M2 and export in H.264 for RUclips 🤯😂🙏🏻
@UnPneuApreslAutre You got it. Have fun!
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This is exactly the information I was looking for - thanks! I have to be able to translate that to editing on the iPad. Just got my OP3 yesterday and loving it. I’m going to play around with LOG, but i may stick with normal for a while as I focus on getting comfortable with the OP3, my video editing software, and producing good content on RUclips. I just wish I could use that Black Mist filter with normal color mode, but since I need to use ND filters, that turned into a no go. One question I have, is Normal Color 10 bit or 8 bit? I thought it was 8 bit, but one RUclipsr who had early access claims it is definitely 10 bit. I’d also be curious to know if you shoot with ND filters on or try to get away without using them. Thanks again ✪
Thank you. So I did some deep digging into this and found that Normal mode is either 8-bit or 10-bit and which it is ends up being depending on the codec setting in the general menu. If you have it set to HEVC the Normal color mode will be 10-bit. If you have it set to h.264 the Normal color mode will be 8-bit.
I have not yet used ND filters with this camera but this is because I do not have them yet. I have held out for the Freewell mega pack which is being released in mid-November. Once I get these I’ll definitely talk about these and how I use them with this camera.
@@GreatDayForAHike Great to know normal mode is 10 bit under HEVC! I’m going to stick with that for now to keep it simple till I crave more. Looking forward to your ND filter review. I’m pretty hesitant to go 3rd party. When you do get it, I’d like to know if those are designed to fit into the hard plastic shell while on the lens like the native DJI ones are.
@iamrishio Absolutely. I’ll delve into this as well with those ND filters.
So, are D-Log M videos comparable to RAW files in still photos? Basically, I can manually manipulate that photo to bring up/down highlights and shadows and add a little bit of color and effects?
Pretty much an equivalence. Basically a raw video file.
@GreatDayForAHike Awesome! This makes understanding and shooting in D-Log M much easier! Thanks and great explanation in your video! 😊
Do you think the Pocket 3 is good enough quality to film wedding videos? Or do you think it's mainly just for vlogging since it's limited to only having a wide angle lens?
Think you should just make a combo with another camera. I would use the pocket3 for the bigger close up shots but I would suggest to get a better camera for close up shots of people. At a wedding things aren't so straight forward and you cant always get close enough to people.
I agree with this recommendation. I like the Osmo Pocket 3 as a tool for such a purpose but I wouldn’t recommend it as the only tool. It should pair well with a video-centric APS-C or full frame camera and lens.
What are the best quality for pocket 3, cpl and nd filters. Dji, freewell or polarpro?
Freewell filters are my favorites. I’ll be released a video soon on these filters with this camera as I recently got these. I find Freewell filters to be the best product for the best price and to be of good quality as well for the price. These are the ones I got for the Pocket 3: amzn.to/46ts18r
@@GreatDayForAHike Thanks, but did you seen any optic quality difference between different brands or seen any doin a video about it compering different brands?
I wonder if you would make a video using the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 for the indoor talking head video for RUclips.... with the absolute neophyte in mind who is starting from zero and wants the least amount of technical complications but still make a YT video look decent enough.....
Thanks. This is a good idea.
Hi, great tips, as always! I have a question. My D-Log M footage is a lot more washed-out than your example footage; nothing approaches the vibrancy of your son's shirt and backpack straps, for example. The DJI LUT helps, and shooting in Normal color is fine, but I can't seem to get a nice result when adjusting D-Log M from scratch using the curves; either they don't bring enough color and contrast, or they bring "weird" color. So, I'm wondering how you managed to get so much color in your (ungraded) D-Log M footage. Is it because you had a nice sunny day? (it's been cloudy here)
Also, I'd love to hear your strategy for shooting and color correcting really long clips like your recent bike ride, where you pass through different lighting conditions, with no chance to adjust WB or EV on the fly (and no need to match to other clips).
Thank you and both great questions!
So I’m thinking the color in the ungraded image is due to the sunlight on that day and the bit of glow that the lighting had in the woods that time of day. It was pretty early in the morning and a lot of autumn leaves around which I think really enhanced the colors even in the flat D-log M profile. There also seems to be something about red and that color popping out more, even in the ungraded footage.
For a lengthy clip where the light is constantly changing I recommend a few different approaches. Option 1: Grade the one, single clip without splitting it up but locate a spot in the clip where the lighting is average for the entire clip or a spot on the clip that you view as the best, most scenic/notable part of the clip and grade that spot to have that look best. This means there may be parts of the clip that are over or underexposed at times but this will ensure the best part(s) are looking how you want them to.
Option 2: Cut up the single clip into different sections based on the lighting and grade each type of clip via an adjustment layer that fits each type of lighting. I’d separate this by three types: brighter scenes, average lighting scenes, darker scenes. You can then have three adjustment layers (one for each type of lighting) and then drop the proper adjustment layer over the applicable clip. Option 2 will of course take longer but may yield better results.
Hi, I just took another test jog, this time in town on a sunny day, and the D-Log M colors were much more present! Also, I used a fixed white balance like you did; that could've helped. And I stayed away from deep forest.
I love the results you've been getting with your various gear and your careful color correction in Premiere Pro. I keep trying to use those curves and wheels but I always seem to end up with weird colors, so I tend to fall back on the Basic Correction sliders, which are my comfort zone (since they work like my TV). But I'm always paying attention to how you're doing it, because I hope to one day be able to get my head (and fingers) around it!
Do you have any plans to film some more long bike rides (or hikes)? It's really neat watching you tour bits of Virginia (I grew up in C'ville) and I like hearing a mix of history and gear talk! :)
I've just been grading some footage I took yesterday in the woods in variable light. The stuff recorded under the beech trees in dappled light looks amazing, I'm really pleased with it. The footage taken when it clouded over half an hour later under the shadows of trees looks crappy. Don't underestimate the lighting on your log footage, it makes a big difference!
@JamieFurlong Absolutely. Lighting makes a big difference in Log.
I have seen MTB videos of this camera, would you recommend it?
I would say for mountain biking it could be a risky use case due to this camera not being as durable as an action camera but it does have the option to put it into wearable mode. If using it for MTB I would recommend buying the accidental damage warranty too.
@@GreatDayForAHike thanks, I appreciate the info.
@OutdoorGentleman As far as image quality this camera is great. Love the 1” sensor and the various 10-bit color modes on it. Fantastic product.
How does the HLG color grading experience compare to what you demo here?
Great question. Since that is HDR, this requires changing the Color Space for the project to Rec. 2100 HLG.
In addition, the codec for the sequence should also be changed to: Apple ProRes 422 HQ.
If you want to export in HDR for uploading the Export also has to be set to the Rec. 2100 color space.
Additionally, in Premiere Pro, the following needs to be changed to get a proper visualization of the footage in HDR. Go to Settings->General and ensure that Display Color Management and Extended dynamic range monitoring are on. This is required to view Rec. 2100 HDR videos in Premiere properly.
After all of those settings are changed, or applied at the end (in the case of export) the steps to grade the footage are the same as here.
Ensuring those settings I mentioned specific to HDR are adjusted properly is key though otherwise the HDR footage will appear to be really blown out and almost entirely white.
Thanks. What are the D-Log M to Rec. 709 *.cube* files provided by DJI?
That is a conversion LUT DJI provides to convert the D-Log M color space into the Rec.709 color space. You can use this if you would like to as a first step and then do the grading steps I show in this video after applying the LUT. Using the conversion LUT from DJI first will limit some of the flexibility with the grading process.
I have tested using the DJI conversion LUT first and grading the footage and then have tested just grading without the conversion LUT first. I liked the results with grading from scratch without the conversion LUT better than when I used the conversion LUT.
Camera manufacturers that offer a Log profile will almost always provide a conversion LUT that can be used (Sony, Canon, DJI, GoPro, etc) to convert the color space to Rec.709. I have also graded SLog3 footage from Sony and various other Log variants without the conversion LUT. I prefer grading from scratch to really dial in the specific look I want.
Thanks again! If you're color grading yourself from scratch, why choose Rec. 709 instead of Rec. 2020? Someone who noticed that HLG uses Rec. 2020 was asking this in the DJI forum and the answer was not clear, given that Rec. 2020 is a "bigger" color space than Rec. 709. Maybe it has something to do with the M in D-Log M? 😀
@joebowbeer Yup the M stands for “Mavic” I believe. Compared to D-Log, D-Log M has already been processed to some degree, leaving less room for grading in post-production, but it allows for easier color grading during post-processing.
@@GreatDayForAHikeoh great ! Where do you find this LUT from DJI ?
Make lut for HGL
I could certainly do this. I can also make a video that shows how to grade HGL too since that workflow is a bit different.
@@GreatDayForAHike I think it's great idea, thanks
And don't call me Shirley! 😋Also, now you've made both a D-Log and a HLG editing video, which do you prefer to film in? Any situation that you would use one over the other?
HI, more or less is like playing in photography with adobe Lightroom, doesn't it??
That’s right, it essentially is.
New, neither tech-savvy person nor colour grade after shooting😂 Anyway, thanks for sharing, otherwise I might have use the D-log M during my trip & get those kinda “grey” looking vids😅 Think I’ll just use Normal.
Appreciate your feedback. The Normal mode captures great footage on this camera as well and simply has a different look as you mentioned. Enjoy your Pocket 3!
Can’t you do a video and show best settings without editing . A lots of people don’t color grating
Yes I can. Thank you for your feedback. I’ll work on putting together a video that shows this.
Thank you for responding . Love your channel
Why not h.265?
In reference to which part? I recommend filming using the HEVC (h.265) codec but exporting in the h.264 codec. The reason for that export setting is better RUclips compatibility without the loss of quality.
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@compl3testep YW
I tried it but the face looks too bright and not natural
I'm out... no way I'm touching Premiere Pro. Tried it a few years back and hated it. I'm more of a Final Cut Pro guy
I’ve used Final Cut Pro and DaVinci Resolve as well. Each program has its strengths and for me it’s about which I can use quickest. Though I do like how Premiere Pro performs best on my Apple device. It’s better than on my Windows device.
Though I will say Premiere Pro has some strange errors at times that can be frustrating to work through and often involve downgrading until Adobe fixes the issue. So if that was your experience, I get it.
switch to davinci resolve its not a hard switch and its so much more user friendly
I do use Resolve from time-to-time but I still find Premiere Pro to be the fastest workflow for me personally.
Do your creative self a favor. Stop using LOG, D-Log, S-Log, N-Log, XYZ-Log... Creators are not telling you that 10bit XYZ- LOG is almost always limited to Rec 709. You aren't getting 1billion colors. However 10bit HLG is Rec 2020 or 2100, that's true 1billion colors and that's what you want to work in if you desire truly powerful color grading latitude.
HLG settings and editing workflow is here: ruclips.net/video/tiZLYfl4AiE/видео.htmlsi=Y02EPvflPd-8OS4O
Too much work . I'll stay with the automatic settings
The automatic settings on this camera do give great results as well. It really depends on if you want to add your own fine tuning to the footage. I can understand the speed and efficiency of auto. Enjoy your camera!
You did all that didn't even show the end result
You can view more than 100 individual clips in 5 minutes in this video. All were filmed in D-Log M and graded using the process outlined in this video: ruclips.net/video/fu8vIo7acUw/видео.htmlsi=vTdo6-DXJQwLS3Ha