Y'know... A really easy out, at least in terms of the games, for Henry's absence and inaction could have been that HE was the one who went to jail for William's crimes after the first MCI. A simple call back to the newspaper from FNaF1 would have been all that was needed. It would also give a LOT more justification for his grief and honestly shark-jumping plan of burning everything to the ground! Imagine just stewing behind bars, wrongly imprisoned for the actions of someone you may have thought of as a friend once, for the same man that killed your daughter...and now you're here. To rot and treated like a criminal. Any person would lose their mind to grief that way.
...Actually, that is a BRILLAINT idea. In fact, that could even explain Henry's somewhat callous nature after the fact too, considering that he spent years in prison dealing with it.
Not only dealing with it, but probably being reminded of it every single day. The first MCI was probably the most horrific set of murders the area had ever seen. That on top of being the co-owner, would probably have registered Henry as a high-profile criminal and sent him to a maximum security prison with a solitary holding cell. Completely cut off from the world with no way to defend his image and looked at with disgust by the guards and maybe even some of the other inmates. He'd have several decades of a personal hell that would nearly justifiably shape his character later. To bad even Scott forgot that little nugget of info from his first game.
@@ohheyitswolfie I mean hed likely been shanked and near death due to the fact it isnt just murders but repotedly children gone missing (likely presumed dead)
I find it interesting how Michael spent so long trying to fix what he was a part of when he was a teenager (at oldest) when it all went down whilst Henry was a whole adult and did far less to fix things
there also the fact he suffer a lot more when trying to stop them just look at him becouse from what we can tell he was the protaganist for all the games exept 4 so he survive multiple locations a fire that may or may not have bin him trying to end his dad and then was trap and burn alive by his dad partner who did nothing until now also i forgot to mention the fact he got his guts ripped out and stuffed with robot parts threw up those said robot parts turn purple and became some sort of zombie
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 Your point is even stronger in the event someone was to follow the theory that you play as Michael when fending off the nightmare animatronics in FNaF 4, where the theory suggests nights are post CC death while the minigames are pre death. so even in his early youth, he would need some serious back support for carrying all the games minus Security Breach and Ultimate custom night.
@@M4x4r0ni hu never knew about the theory but still even without fnaf 4 there still every other game so ya there also fnaf world but we dont talk about fnaf world
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 that's fair. Although, if we really wanted to, one could probably figure out a way to make Michael the protag of fnaf world. It honestly wouldn't surprise me.
My biggest gripe with Henry is that he's such an interesting character because of all his flaws but we barely got any of him before he kicked the bucket. Had he been introduced at ANY point prior to Pizza Sim (which Scott had ample time to do but didn't) I think we could've had something really special. As is, he couldn't even get away with playing the 'hero' since SB recontextualizes him to just be a loser. If we got to properly dive into his and William's dynamic and their sins it'd be much more meaningful to see Henry finally put a stop to it (and he can still be a terrible person cus I dig that) Really like your videos! I've been using them as background audio the past few days and you talk about a lot of interesting things with FNaF's writing. Never really see it analyzed this much and it's really fun to hear and think about it.
THIS is the issue with fnaf. Some people ask for it to go back to “what it was” but to me other than phone guy, we never had seen much actually developed in depth complex characters in the games.
That’s what I’M SAYING, dude! He was ultimately a neglectful, depressive father who put work before his family, I mean people wonder why his wife isn’t mentioned in the novel. Charlie’s stubborn-nature and sure-fire persistence are a clear sign of Henry failing to encourage his daughter, caught up in his own limbo of catharsis. Grieving or not, he had responsibilities. But arguably, still a better father than William lmao.
@@scottchaison1001 It’s stupid to mention the obvious fact that Afton was a terrible father to the point that a child raised by a wild animal would have a better childhood? Maybe you should follow your own advice. Especially since “you brainn’t?” makes no sense and isn’t a word.
I get the feeling Henry was intended to be the parental victim, broken and deeply flawed but ultimately trying-to-be-good hero of the story with FNAF 6, but the writing of both games and books fumbled him so much that there are these massive unexplained or poorly-explained actions and absences that really don't speak to that.
@@anonymouslucario285 I think it's as satisfying as it could have been given the circumstances. An overall well-executed conclusion to a clusterfuck of a story.
@@anonymouslucario285 Not canon to the games.* They're their own thing with their own separate canon. I haven't read past The Silver Eyes personally, and going by what I've heard from summaries of the sequels, it's all downhill from there, so I'm not all too inclined to haha. TSE (as a standalone story) is a genuinely solid book, and my favorite depiction of Henry.
For Lefty,I always imagined that Charlotte would refuse to see Henry and would flee or be agressive,hence why Lefty was created, to literally control her,and make sure she burns in the fire too
@@_MECHA_ the thing other is Charlie soul was still around even after William was stringlocks and dead[ even though he came back]. During the happiest day all the other souls moved on but Charlie mask fall down slowly showing that Charlie was not ready for moving on.
@@CourtRobGrayfirst its not canon for Charlotte killing you its just that she again hunted william and killing him. While charlote didnt know the death of william from the springlock, she was not dismantled with the other animatronics not knowing william is dead. Thats why cassidy isnt in the fnaf 6 pizzarea as she is already an ally against william
Ain't it weird Scott writes the villains and heroes with similar character flaws. -lack of sympathy -obsession with children that died -genius inventors -both abandoned their families -attempts to force everyone into going alongside his plan without their knowledge or wish
It's speculated that Henry was the one who went to jail for William's crimes, since according to the newspapers in FNaF1, someone WAS convicted. That would explain why it took him so long to show up.
I think Michael was responsible for the FNAF 3 fire, and that Henry was convinced for Williams crimes, being why he was missing from the timeline for so long, and why he makes less than sane decisions on multiple occasions.
Its so infantalizing when people act like we cant understand our actions because of our depression. We arent fucking two, we are ournown induvidual that can feel more than one emotion and are capable of complex understanding
To be fair, for the fact that Henry still planned the Fnaf 6 fire even the the Fnaf 3 fire didn't work, maybe Fazbear Fright wasn't like, properly sealed or smthg, and Henry could have thought this to be a cause of why William survived. I mean, the Fnaf 6 pizzeria was literally DESIGNED and BUILT to be a deathtrap, whereas it prolly wasn't the case for Fazbear Fright, hence why Henry may have had a point when thinking this second fire woul be more efficient. But yeah, he ain't a great person and deffo could've done more against William
@@garlicamvs6235 By story perspective. Especially since we've never even seen any clue of Henry in previous games, they don't even take time to set up him as a character.
Great video as always! I feel like Henry was never supposed to be in the games in the first place but Scott changed his mind when it was time to make Pizza Sim because he needed someone to deliver the ending speech and only Henry kinda fit that bill, even though there was never any build up to it, making it come out of left field. On thing I’d like to add to the Henry Emily is a bad person bandwagon is that in the insanity ending Henry lobotomizes Michael for finding the blueprints and the hidden tapes, and, you know, since he wasn’t sure who that could have been it makes him even more of an asshole, like, he’s not above killing, but what he did was even worse because he left Michael as a vegetable. One could go as far as to even argue that it makes Henry worse than William himself.
I'm sure that because during the insanity ending we've playing it in the vents area so my best guess is that the animatronics heard the plan Henry had and immediately made a beat line to the exit
@@matthewmcbride778 That's actually a good explanation. I never understood why that "prevented a solution", as the ending suggests. Not that any of this matters, though, because that ending is obviously as non-canon as Michael getting fired for being a lazy ass or going bankrupt, lol. It's a joke ending. It shouldn't be seen as a canonical look into Henry's character.
I have a feeling Henry and Michael had an unspoken mutual agreement on it being Michael's time to die. Michael is a freak, he shouldn't be alive, he says it himself "I should be dead, but I am not.". His road ended ages ago, he's offroad heading directly towards a sheer dropoff, he doesn't know when or where, but he knows it's coming. I feel like Henry is just trying to end off all the tragedy. He's putting an end to all the unnatural shit he caused, or so he feels he caused. It's a final good deed to the world, Henry killed his daughter, his business partner, and his frnachise, but if he were to leave Michael alive, he'd be leaving a loose end. It's not a good guy move, but it's the right move. The right choice isn't always the good choice.
Agreed. The situation couldn't be fixed at that point, and the only thing that could be done was just to burn it all. When everything has spiraled out of control, and all hell has broken loose, you need to make hard choices.
@@connorharris1514 The video addressed that: Henry PLANNED an escape route, but assumes Mike wouldn't be interested and either A: didn't implement the escape route or B: implemented it, but just didn't give Mike the option to actually USE it. Whether or not he was correct in the assumption, the POSSIBILITY that Mike might not want to die was totally ignored by Henry and he murdered him anyway.
Honestly i think Henry at least in the books knowing Charlie wasnt really Charlie could be what cause him to treat her more like a object because he knew she actually was one so the illusion didnt really work for him.
8:57 yea that bit always stuck out as weird to me. I don’t think there was any concrete evidence that we play as Micheal in Pizza Sim (anything other than dialogue from the robots and Henry’s speech), so Henry’s making a lot of assumptions about this dude he hired, of which he never interacts with personally other than tape recordings. For all Henry knows, the Franchise Package owner could be some random hobo or aubergine orphan from the Bronx who saved up enough money to change his life, so his assumption that they want to stay and burn with the rest kinda loses nobility.
I remembered constantly suggesting that Henry's plan in Fnaf 6 was pure evil but nobody believed me, this quite literally proved every single thing I said.
i think LEFTE was created to at least decrease the aggressiveness of puppet to michael Let's remember that in fnaf 2 the only thing that kept her from killing him was a music box and if it wasn't, it could also serve as a capsule so Charlie doesn't escape, it takes a lot of details that we will never have lol
I don't know because there's actually no reason to do that Springtrap is in the building and even if they wouldn't be in the building he didn't have to create LEFTE he could have created the thing that calls the puppet and just installed it in the final days. Part of the reason I feel it was LEFTE was to make sure the puppet burned as well. Since Micheal clearly can handle living in these places and if that was really the case why didn't he just install a music box into the Pizzaria?
@@MA-rf6bu It SHOCKS HER! Also I don't think she can control it. Like it would be fine if it was like blueprinted to be able to be controled by the puppet and to square up with William but that's not the case.
I don't know anything about the books, but I think in the games Henry is a good, definitely flawed, but good person. For starters, the line in Pizzeria Simulator definitely implies to me that there is an escape route that Michael knows about, however Henry knows Michael probably won't want it. I also think that Henry's treatment of the puppet makes sense given its incredible power and its willingness to kill innocents such as security gaurds; He understands it's a threat, understands that it isn't truly his daughter and understands that the safest course of action is to destroy it with everything else. I think Henry's main flaw is his inaction, if you don't believe the fan theory that he was imprisoned than it is pretty awful that he didn't do anything, however I think he earns his redemption from that by his final action in Pizzeria Simulator, burning all the harm he allowed to spread.
If Michael knew about the exit, why would Henry say that it "was planned", but also that he has "a feeling" that Michael wouldn't want to use it? The way it's phrased suggests that Henry is just now revealing that he *would have* made an exit if not for *thinking* Michael has a death wish.
Spot on. See I was thinking about this, when imagining the rewrite for SB. That Henry vanishes for 3 decades, then just "apperars" out of the blue, and Basically kills himself. He never tries to reconcile with his daughter, or maybe aproach the parents even. He never aproaches the confused and scared spirits who probably Need guidance to NOT KILL PEOPLE! He just waltzes in and sets himself on fire. There are so many problems with that solution that it is riddicolous.. EDIT: Wait Lefty was shocking the puppet/Charlie? Never noticed that. That is just evil.
William would've never gotten off the ground with Henry level-headed - hence, Charlie's death was necessary in both the games and the books to get him where he got to. But Henry never did seem to come back at all - perhaps, as some might frame it, he _didn't_ know, stricken with grief as he was initially, that he left the franchise to William with the trust that in his hands the killer would be caught, unknowing of the shared identity between those two. Or, perhaps he just.. spiraled away into apathy. I've seen interpretations of Henry range immensely, from caring father to complete deadbeat who scared the ghost of his daughter away from himself again, and between the sides of the spectrum, I think it's the other that's more accurate. That all said, I think the issue here lies in the same place as everyone else's - Scott isn't known for writing stories. He's not known for making human characters, any more than he's known for making his models mechanically accurate or keeping his designs consistent. He's known for his horror atmosphere crafting, which he _is_ damn good at, even if the games might have odd choices in mechanics and lore and characters and so forth. I think the intent with Henry was that he was supposed to be just sort of different, perhaps leaning towards low-level autism or a similar condition, and that he sort of treated his machines and the people around him all the same when they were all running well. Given the frog in the novels, that concept could be turned around further - if someone wasn't how he thought they should be, well, he might just make them be that way instead. But I doubt it was meant to go that far. He seemingly just doesn't empathize with others very well, even if he does see that what William was up to was absolutely in the wrong. The books sort of set this up - he's described as being closer to the machines than the employees, being the brilliant but incomprehensible inventor, and as treating his family like a secret side hobby rather than his main focus - it's specifically stated as such. I've seen plenty of interpretations follow this, and it seems the general community-accepted characterization of him sort of is like that, where he truly does love Charlie and presumably the rest of his family (and he certainly should, before everything went wrong) but he just doesn't communicate well, be that receiving what he's being told or saying what he should, both of those verbally or not. One line that stuck with me detailed a version of Michael during the trapped pizzeria's work cycle, which goes something like "Michael didn't need to sleep and could work nearly all hours of the day, so he was expected to". Henry there was depicted as not needlessly cruel (though that same story had him direct Charlie to place Michael's soul into a body safe from the fire to allow him to watch over what comes after, meaning that interpretation _also_ knew the fire wouldn't solve everything), but just as treating people like machines with a maximum capacity they operate at, and not really understanding their wants, only their needs. And that wasn't intentional, not in that story. Also, one thing I do want to point out - I won't speak for Henry's mental state in the games (he speaks enough as is), but book Henry is straight up insane. He drove himself insane by running a few hundred illusion disks all day every day for years and deluding himself in his weird fake pizzeria under his house to the point of thinking that his family was still there with him, until he sort of pulled himself back from it with help from Jen. I think he built all his replica daughters after that point (one of which he left on constantly while it sat there in a mess of painful emotions it could not process), and resorted to suicide once he realized they would never replace what he once had - I don't know if he really knew what he'd made, that he'd if not brought her back at least essentially replicated her mind or soul, and imbued machines with emotions made into a form of energy or similar. By that point he was too far gone mentally to do that sort of thing. I suspect the murder machine he used wasn't made specifically for that purpose - though its unmoving and terribly sorrowful face might've been and its giant sword of a hand definitely was, the rest of it was always a standard endo that he slapped some unique parts onto. I suspect he simply wanted to die at the hands of one of his machines, rather than his own, so it wouldn't be a suicide anymore in his messed-up head. Not that being murdered is better, as he should've known from those around him.
Can you give the name of the story you mention of how Henry sees Michael? And the name of the site where you found it as well? Sounds very interesting and would like to give it a read
@@piratebones9641 It's one of the various pieces written for FNaF on Archive Of Our Own. The one I detailed was one of the many SB rewrites where Michael takes the form of some variation of Glamrock Foxy, though I forget the name.
You are all forgetting about the fact, that Henry was ok with his workers getting springlocked inside the suits, and even built special rooms for them to go, when it happens. (Sorry for any mistakes or misspeling, english is not my native language)
I feel like the best example of Henry as a character is not in canon FNAF but in the fan game DSaF 3 This line alone speaks and explains everything about him after being defeated (spoilers btw) “I don’t understand…” “I am the protagonist….”
People seem to fail to notice one big factor in the necessity of LEFTE: Charlie is a huge wild card with no actual alliegances and only 1 exploitable weakness (the security puppet signal). If left to her own devices, she'd most likely try going after both Mike and William again like she had in the past (FNAF 2 and 3) or even Baby and Freddy due to the souls inside them, and become a wrench in Henry's plan, which I'm pretty sure was stated to rely on keeping ALL the animatronics isolated from each other on top of keeping them trapped. Charlie being completely aware and her gameplay mechanics in 2 show that none of the fake party bait would've worked on her because she's not bound by the same child-seeking programming that Baby, Molten Freddy, and Springtrap were compelled to obey, meaning she could beeline straight to anyone first chance she got or subsequently escape once the fire started and potentially go back to giving more kids life and creating more killer animatronics with all the people capable of stopping them already out of the picture. Even if she wasn't evil, Charlie was still a danger to everyone because of how uncompromising she is in her goals ("I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way") and because there was no way to control or manipulate her reliably like with the other animatronics.
Thank you. Another big factor i see is that Henry "forced Charlie to burn". Did they just forget that possessing animatronics was entirely something they never wanted and it was more of a curse than anything? Trapping her in the pizzeria was a mercy kill. Same with Michael, he was nothing but a shell of his former self trying to free the children. He did that, and so Henry understood perfectly clear he'd be ready to rest too.
This is absolutely true. As flawed as Henry is, I don’t know why people are bashing him for Lefty of all things. I thought the necessity was obvious????
Michael and Charlie weren’t the only ones trying to stop William, Golden Freddy/Cassidy was also trying to, and with UCN, I think Cassidy almost succeeded until Help Wanted, then everything went downwards.
Being mentally ill dose not mean their actions don't effect people. My mother has bi-polar depression, and her depression makes her say these horrible awful things to those around her and makes her believe in delusions and conspiracy theories that aren't real. I couldn't handle it anymore, and decided to seek counseling, I have been going to it for months now. So no, just because someone has a mental illness dose not mean that there actions should be excused or mean that they're actions don't effect other people.
On one hand, for at least thirty of the years Henry was sitting around doing nothing to fix anything, William wasn't a threat. On the other hand, the *reason* William wasn't a threat was because a bunch of ghost kids at least *tried* to solve the problem when Henry the alive grown man didn't.
Ahhh Henry Henry Henry. As much as I love Henry’s speech it is really undermined from the insanity ending’s (like a lot of things were) reveal about how lefti was supposed to function or just lefti in general. But when pizzasim came out these were plot beats I was more than willing to sweep under the rug. Sure Baby yoyoed her personality, sure there was some retcons with the fnaf2 minigames involving the pupper, sure mustard man and the insanity ending brought up questions no asked for, but just the core concept was so good and satisfying that I didn’t really care. I was willing to overlook those details. But now with security breach just taking away all of those good parts we’re just left with this mess. Honestly part of me wanted to cobble together some copium fueled theory that this wasn’t actually henry but just something else with the beginning part after the fake pizza minigame being henries attempt. But it still just leaves a blackhole where the plot should be. And book henry, dear lordy I hate book henry and his stupid robot kids. I understand that grief can make people act irrationally but everything henry did was just so cartoonish that it made everyone else’s motives look silly especially book baby. I think its why i loved dsaf3’s (also I don’t think ive got to thank you for compiling everything involving those games ^^) ending so much. It was basically everything that was good from pizzasim distilled from the bad with its own spin. I still do like henry’s speech though and will occasionally listen to for no reason ^^
Honestly the insanity ending of Simulator kinda adds more to the idea that Henry is a bad person considering his first instinct is to get the person who discovers these secrets... institutionalized and apparently lobotomized too. Pretty hefty punishment for discovering your own archives that you put in their reach
@@sonic8005 The player character would be an unsafe variable if they knew all about remnant and the foundations of his plans- so it's unethical, yeah, but I can see where he was coming from.
In FNAF 1 a newspaper story says that the killer (with the missing children situation) was CONVICTED…. Could Henry have gotten arrested for what William did and wasn’t released until Pizzeria Simulator hence why he wasn’t in the story and possibly COULDN’T stop William even if he wanted to?
Someone else mentioned that possibility and I think that would've been a great idea! But nowhere does it say that's what happened. 8/ Henry's monologue in the Insanity Ending has him admit that he hadn't stepped in when he could've, which I think he wouldn't have said if he was physically incapable of doing so.
I think the most almost comedically terrible aspect of how hard they undid the ending of pizza sim was that of the 12 people/souls (the 5 original kids plus ballora and Funtime foxy, assuming they're both haunted plus baby, puppet, Henry, Mike, and grandpa willy) present in the fire, y'know the one that was supposed to be Henry's way of ridding himself of the guilt of it all by putting an end to everything, there's a very high chance Henry himself was the only one that actually died and had his soul put to rest permanently.
Grief does make you do stupid things in the worst cases. But deciding people's fates for them, hurting them further despite supposedly caring for them, that's not grief. That's selfishness. At best he's overcompensating for the lack of action before, but his pain, in the end, is all that matters to him. Not the grieving parents, the families of the security guards. The only thing needed for evil men to win is for good men to do nothing.
Yeah, I sadly agree, henry could have been such a cool character, he could have burned fazbears fright, had a moment of interaction with his daughter, and given mike the option to escape, when re-writeing him, rather than just leaving his daughter to witness his death, he gives a note to his sister, someone he'd trust with his (Alive in the re-write) Daughter, due to not really knowing where his wife has gone (Or maybe trys to reach out to her) and waits until she's somewhere that she wouldn't see what happens, and pizza sim will be Much different, instead of him setting the place up in fire, the one who does will be left unknown, but the recording is actually a pre-recording, made by Henry before he took his life, it was in reality left for his daughter, but, there was someone else who found it (This isn't finalized, and the pizza sim fire actually might be much different) But, now that im done rambling, this video really points out the flaws in Henry's character, and is very well formatted as always! Incredible job!!!!
This was really interesting! I’ve never read the SE trilogy so when I heard some people mention offhand that Henry displayed some… less-than-desirable… traits, I didn’t actually know the details. Now I do! I think some (not all, but some) of these issues are simply due to faulty writing. The FNAF books I have read are interesting, but as someone who minored in creative writing and has been writing for around 15 years, the writing is… not always stellar, to put it nicely. My guess is that because Henry’s speech at the end of FNAF 6 acted partially as an infodump, it was meant to simply communicate that Michael did want to die and that he was going to die in the fire. That they were on the same page. I think there was oversight regarding the VERY unfortunate implications that could create about Henry. Same with the Puppet, infodumping without going out of their way to clarify that freeing the Puppet was good for her. The shock thing though… yeaaaah. I didn’t know about that, that’s fricked up. I mean we know music boxes put it to sleep Henry, just… just have Lefty play music or something. Weird that some of the visuals in the graphic novels seem to be aware that things Henry is doing are messed up (like the toy thing), but the story itself never openly acknowledges it. Or, not enough. I think if it had it could’ve been really interesting to get a more nuanced look at this character. I’d like to know why he sat back and waited so long (besides, y’know, him not existing until the novels came out, which meant they had to write him in late but that’s not an excuse). I don’t agree with everything you said here but it was informative and really well done! Really good video. Anyway I’ll stop picking it apart like a pseudo-intellectual now, lol.
I can’t say for sure, but I believe that the books went from one to three rather quickly. Time constraints could’ve definitely been the cause of some of these issues. I’m also wondering if the writer had story mandates they had to fill, like with Security Breach’s story. Like Pizzeria Simulator, The Fourth Closet also ends in a substantial infodump where they stop to tell the readers information they wouldn’t otherwise know. I wonder if this was a result of crunch time and additional plot milestones that needed to be met. I noticed that with the graphic novels too! For example, in the Twisted Ones Charlie and John go on a date. This date is described as being uncomfortable and all but says Charlie didn’t have a good time. However, in the graphic novel it’s changed to showing Charlie having a good time. I understand why it was changed, as by the end of the book and the next these two are saying ‘I love you’s, but it is noticeable. Also, thank you so much! Glad to hear it! :)
Now imagine Michael and the possessed animatronics, yes, including Puppet, lashing out at Henry because of all of this. That would have been sick to watch. Amazing analysis video. I wish we could see more of Henry in the games.
'We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." Henery being gone for 30+ years only to sweep in and try to deliver the final blow that Mike has been trying to do for ages rubs me the wrong way. I wish there had been some context as to where he's been, and why LEFTE was necessary. But those being unanswered just makes him look bad. Loved the vid, keep up the good work!
I feel like he was the one who was framed for the killing, which might be why he’s been practically non existent till now. He reminds me of the twist jigsaw killer in the movie Jigsaw, where this guy was almost always there from the beginning but had his own troubles
Simple retcons and bad writing. Also I don't see why no questions the other parents, I mean they also did nothing and we just pretend they don't exist for some reason?
Damn finally someone pointed it out! Like literally, Henry killing Mike without any reason always felt so strange to me, I feel surprised nobody talks about how he just let this guy to die
@@aeshaahme3774 he doesnt know who is in the office, so how would he tell Mike that he is gonna burn the place down beforehand if he doesnt know who will be in the office?
@@aku2136 I thought that he tried to find dudes for the job, and then Michael showed up. And, a rotting corpse coming up is quite concerning tho? Since Michael is wanting to track down William, he would team up with Henry and end this. Micheal doesn’t even struggle.
honestly i love the idea of henry being this tragic figure where his inability to healthily deal with his grief caused him to hurt everyone else around him, i think that could be something really cool that they could explore if only the series actually focused and elaborated on that instead of framing him as this perfect hero-
In the books he rights to Jen to blow up the house and shoot whatever walks out meaning Charlie. He knew living in his delusions of her being alive was not healthy and so he wanted her to be destroyed. Doesn’t make it any better but I think that’s why he never had a plan for where charlie would go after his death
"He didn't choose what overtook him", "He didn't choose to fight it." "He lost a child!' "HE HAD OTHER CHILDREN!" "No one could have understood what that must've been like", "We all lost Charlie". -Anne with an 'E'.
How i see it, Henry did not inheritly intend to hurt his loved one, but he was a very ignorant person. He was so blinded by sadness and anger that he completeley disregarded, and ignored the people around him's feelings and thoughts. He was so focused on his own grief that he sacrficed the only two people he had left, Charlie and Michael and didn't even ask Mike what he really wanted to do during the fire, and even after it. He didn't even think about the fact that even though his actions might've lead to Afton's death (that didn't even happen which is even worse), he hurt SO many people in the process, even his daughter, a bunch of innocent nightguards, and even someone he probably considered more of a son than Sammy, because screw him apperantly, just to get the last say? In the end, it wasn't even worth it.
You're right about Henry not thinking of what Michael really wanted to do at the end but at the same time his guess isn't really far off. Michael has nothing left to live for, his family is gone, he's known for the murder of his brother and he's literally a walking corpse that could collapse anytime. It's not worth it to try when you're just gonna live in vain. And also I just thought of this, what if there is an escape plan but after Michael became a corpse Henry decided to just not tell Michael because he knows he'll be living in vain? Becoming a corpse isn't really something they expected to happen so that would mean that Henry planned out that escape incase Michael does wanna get out ALIVE because he still has a chance but becoming a corpse ruined that chance.
I love Henry as character so much. He sucks! His flaws feel very real, because while the situations are very exaggerated, he feels like a very realistically messed up person. I want to put him in a terrarium like a turtle and study him. He's a pathetic wet cat of a man, trying to be better, and failing miserably. The only thing I would critique is that we have no idea when Henry actually found out about the robots being possessed. It could've been in the 80's or until much later.
If I were to create a reimagining of Fnaf’s current storyline, I would’ve made Henry much more important, like maybe would’ve had him confront William at gunpoint during the night of his springlock failure, let’s say William disarms him and gives him the slip, then he starts to see the souls and attempts to shoot at them with obviously no success, so he runs to the room with the suit and locks the door behind him so Henry can’t get in, so Henry breaks down the door using a nearby fire axe, only to see that William has fully put on the suit, he starts to laugh and mock Henry as well as the souls, then the iconic springlock failure happens, believing William is dead and the children’s death finally received justice, he boards up the room and then goes to the box containing the puppet, caresses its head and says “I’ll be back soon Char” and leaves with a smile on his face, knowing that his daughter’s still with him
Afton's also been set on fire after decomposing for thirty years, so he probably doesn't have much of a working nervous system *left.* Meanwhile Charlie's full-machine, but we *know* controlled shocks are terrible for animatronics to go through. And she's *always going through one* in LEFT-E.
Kill-crazy robot that attacks any adult human she comes across. Ghost or not, that's a problem that needs to be dealt with. Michael had a job to do, and having one of the death machines under control (well, sort of under control) makes that more feasible. Don't try to claim that "Oh, she wouldn't hurt Mike! They're both fighting against William Afton!", either. Remember FNaF 2? The only thing that kept her away from his throat was the damned music box. LEFT-E kept the puppet off of Mike's ass so he could do his job. The plan was (to my understanding), let Michael do his job, and everyone could finally rest once the deed was done. Didn't work out like that, of course, but that was the plan.
@@DudeTheMighty Plus, in the Insanity Ending, henry says "Are they sentient? God, I hope not" He doesn't know if they are still fully 'there' or if it is just anger left, he has no idea how remnant works, so hes taking a shot in the dark
To be honest, I interpreted the lines "There was a planned escape, but I doubt that's what you want" to be a gun. A quick escape to avoid the fire. There was never a literal escape for Michael.
I think the important thing isn't to put emphasis on Henry as a perfect person he's a flawed man who saw what his life's work created and desired to fix it. He works for me as a hero because he's not perfect, but he wants to end the nightmare for everyone
i never saw henry as a good person or a hero, just the one to finally figure out how to end it all, he spent decades scheming im sure, and once he saw fazbear frights burn down he knew it was a good time to strike, lefte was to guarantee that charlie moved on aswell, Charlie also not being a good person seeing as she was the one to essentially give life to the dead children and let them inhabit the suits to try and get their revenge on William, essentially she created the killer robots and honestly henry probably knew that michael was michael when giving the job to him, given how much of a corpse he would be, so he knew that to finish it all would be to kill him too
there is no good person in all of fnaf, everyone fucks up, everyone makes mistakes that let William live and continue his rampage, including cassidy if some theories are to be believed, so yeah, fnaf isnt a story with any heroes or villains, no good guys or bad guys like some mcu movie, its a story with humans, and also demons (good ol willy)
For the lefty thing, the way I see it is puppet was too stubborn for help, or guidance, she saw herself as the one who knew what to do, UCN alludes to this, so Henry probably had to make lefty, I'm not saying your wrong, just giving different pov
Hey just wanted to point out an error. Henry killed himself when Charlie was at school. In the novels (I’m not sure if this is made clear in the graphic novels) Charlie says that Jen picked her up from school. Anyways I love your deep dive into Henry as a character. He’s sick an interesting character and I’ve never seen someone do such a deep analysis on him. Great job.
Honestly I think Henry was more interested in bringing Charlie back to life then actually being a father to her also is it just me or does anyone else think Scott may have taken some inspiration for FNAF from the 2009 Astro Boy movie
I always thought Henry's situation in the books regarding Charlie was an "Astroboy" situation. The fathers in both stories do very similar things after the death of their kid. Out of desperation, Henry did absolutely everything he could to bring back his daughter. When he finally got what he wanted, Robot Charlie just acted as a constant reminder that his daughter was gone. Though the robot had Charlie's original brain and a similar personality, Henry realizes Charlie could never be truly revived. But unlike Tenma from Astroboy, he doesn't force Charliebot to run away. Granted, what Henry actually did was arguably WAY WORSE, but I can see from this mindset that Henry couldn't see Charliebot as his daughter, and as simply a vessel of his real daughter's memories. He didn't care as much for Charliebot because he just saw her as a robot without emotions. I can't go much further talking about his morals without going into the morality of robots and humans and AI and whether or not robots are humans and stuff, but I'll just say that I can SEE why Henry did what he did. He didn't react when Charliebot was crying, because, in his mind, this wasn't his daughter. He started building the s**cide robot over the course of months because he realized the real Charlie could never be relieved, and he was ready to die. The simple answer is that Henry stopped caring for Charliebot as he stopped seeing her as his daughter who was dead. Of course, morally, it's wrong to make a robot with feelings and who sees you as a father and stop caring for it. But I can't go too far without arguing about robot morals, so I digress.
On the topic of Lefty, Henry didn't know if the possessed animatronics (except for William) were self-aware, if Charlie was aware of what was happening to her, and prays that they're not. This shows that while stuffing Charlie into Lefty is a dick move, he knows it and regrets that he has to do it. And with Michael, he straight up says there was a way out for him. Yes, he says he thinks that's not what he wants, but he never stated if he blocked the escape route or not, leaving it up to interpretation on if Michael actually escaped, even though it's implied he stayed and stayed willingly. Also, what else is Michael going to do? William and Elizabeth turned him into an undead freak, and likely has be brooding in self-loathing for killing his brother and failing to atone for his and his father's actions this point. He didn't free any of the children, failed at finding William for more than 30 years, and when he does find Willy, he failed to kill him. This is his chance to end this and he considers himself a loose end too.
Honestly I hate how they tried to infuse the novels and the games together, I know you can kind of make a story with it but most of the time it feels like two completely different stories just forced into one over ending story.
@@CokeAColaMan1 Matt pat thinks so, and honestly. As much as it sucks and is basicly a huge middle finger to this franchise, it would make so much sense
@@Pygargue00fr if you wanna follow the word of that crazy man then all power to you but I think the things discussed are meant to be more canon in nature
Talking about dead people I ADORE how DSaF handles it. It makes you FEEL guilty the phoneys literally tell you what they’re dealing with when you murder. Peter LITERALLY pulls you aside to talk to you and it’s the most (obligatory imo) powerful scene from a phoney. Doggo is good at making you feel so bad an guilty Oh and then Henry. Henry.. Henry… Henry is stupid the end.(the man literally just goes to fire. Never works.)
Lol so I recently saw a video which theorizes Henry was framed and put in jail. And wasnt released until around the time fnaf 6 happens. Its a theory only using the games, not the books or comics.
The way I personally see FNAF 6 Henry is a man who has made a lot of mistakes, and everything he does is for the purpose of rectifying them. He feels guilty for allowing William to get as far as he did and feels it's his responsibility to set things right. I believe that's what Scott wanted for the character, too. But then his treatment of Charlie and Michael just obliterates that. It would be one thing if Lefty was built to soothe the Puppet and keep her at peace, but it's clearly nothing but a glorified torture chamber. It feels so bizzarely sadistic and out-of-character for Henry to ensnare his own daughter like that. I honestly don't know what Scott was thinking. I hate how the Puppet was treated in FNAF 6 as a whole, but that's a whole different can of worms.
The puppet is just as angry as the others. She may say that she isn't, but she is. If Henry just soothed her, that wouldn't work and she would escape. Henry is using brutal pragmatism for what's ultimately the greater good.
in the book in the frog scene where charlie says: his eyes are to big. When Henry is trying to cut him open she wanted to say it outloud but she couldn´t. You can read it in the book! But Henry didn´t know that she doesn´t wanted this...
Henry is flawed, yes. If we are talking about game Henry, I'd disagree he is "evil" or "bad". I believe Scott wanted to make his character have moral ambigity. Clearly he was blindsighted by having too much optimism in people.. I believe the Fazbear Fright book "Man in Room 180", the priest is suppose to be Henry. Its not his lack of care but his lack of alignment to have the bravery to do something about William. He let him get away with it because he believed William could change. In the end I believe Henry did the right thing, and attoned for his wrongs.
But the priest isn’t Henry is the problem. We can’t say elements were supposed to be one way when they weren’t. And while I think maybe it was supposed to be morally ambiguous, the books and games don’t really frame it like that. Not saying he’s evil, but I am saying that the narrative’s framing made him look extremely questionable.
Ah, this is why I have conlicting feelings towards FNAF, there's so much potential and it could be a great opportunity to character development and characterization, but nope, and it's so frustrating haha I think FNAF it's a great example of how to NOT tell a story, but man, I still love these shallow husks of characters, my god... I think a great example of "the flawd man trying his best" (just like Henry ) is Brad Armstrong, from Lisa: The painful, but Henry doesn't get that "punch", that "snap" that made Brad such a good character. Why this series has to be like this, and why do I like it so much. Great video by the way, I love your analysis
I get that feeling. Back when I first got into this, I looked at fanimations (not a typo, by the way) and other such. So I never noticed the story was so messy. I'm eight years in and trying to write my own version. And the more I look into it, especially through videos like these, I can't help but notice how messy the story is. I combat this by reworking them in ways I like. Charlie, for example. Though she is a sweet-natured altruist with mild depression, Charlie sees the world through a child's eyes, oversimplifying issues that are not so simple. And her selflessness adds on to this. She cares so much that she'll make rash decisions just to help others, even if there is a huge margin for error. This changes later on. As Charlie's mindset matures, she steps back a bit and approaches the issue in new ways. The other characters have undergone similar changes in my headcanon, even Henry. My version of him is more consistent with what he's presented to be. Not an asshole, just a bipolar depressed guy stricken with grief. He's been dead inside for so long that, in a weird way, he has become a puppet. That changes for him, too. He eventually breaks out of his cycle and actively works with his daughter to help the others. But there's a catch.
I think my problem with Henry in the regular series/games is they put the one from the novel trilogy rather than his own version. As badass as FNAF 6's ending is and as interesting as Lefty is bro made a cell for his daughter a really questionable design for her/hot charlie then burned her with her murderer and rival also didn't like how he only got one game he could've been in FNAF 3,4, or 5 since those games focused heavily on the Afton's and Fredbear's . I still don't think he's evil like Scraptrap but his methods are questonable.
Here’s my stance on the whole “Henry harmed his daughter by building Lefty” argument. In FNaF 5(Sister Location), a lot of the animatronics have questionable mechanisms designed for catching/luring/harming children. It would only make sense for him to have also been helping William, or, contrary to what many believe, he would have had to have been assisted by William in the making of the animatronics. I am more inclined to believe the latter. There’s evidence to support this. In the beginning of SL/FNaF5, William is being confronted about ‘his’ questionable design choices, and he deflects. Henry couldn’t have been alone in the making of the animatronics. The only thing that doesn’t make sense to me is why he wouldn’t intervene when it came to the more questionable decisions his business partner/coworker made in all of this.
I think the implication is supposed to be that the Sister location-branch of the company is completely seperate and only has indirect input from Henry at best. However, the question of why he never decided to investigate is really curious indeed, both from a moral and logical standpoint. Even under this idea, it would still be in Henry's interest to avoid William doing anything sus like that because, er...the shared part of the company operates under the exact same IP, sharing characters. Even disregarding ethics of working with someone trying to assassinate kids, it would tank Fazbears and thus his own career horrendously if a big scandal linked to Funtime Freddy happened, wouldn't it? At best, it all seems really stupid and at worst incredibly neglectful.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!!! I've wanted to do a video on this myself, but you beat me to it (tbh you did it better than I ever could). I'm glad I'm not alone on this!
Yeah, it's even said that, out of the two, Henry was actually the more unnerving one. The one wearing an obviously fake smile, who'd stay by the corners in his own world of machineries and schematics, as opposed to William, who was shown to be far more on the business side of things, appearing very outgoing and enthusiastic. As for the doll being brought to life by his tears... well, it goes into the idea behind remnant and agony. Turns out, neither of them are related to souls at all. They're related to emotions and memories, with remnant being positive or at least neutral emotions, and agony being made of negative ones. When either of those is poured into a mechanism or at least something with an artificial intelligence of sorts (I think, it gets a bit complicated), it's given life. With remnant, it's usually either a life based on the character that's injected with remnant, or the memory of the person related to that remnant. Like, positive memories of your child lead to creation of remnant that then takes the form and personality of your child. That's what the Crying Souls are. They're not ghosts, they're recreations of the memories of those children, accidentally made by the children themselves when they were killed, and by their parents and friends, I think. Or maybe they're actually souls, who grew so attached to these characters thanks to the remnant that they're literally bound to them, forced to possess them. This part here is not very clear, and mind you, none a this is already super clear in the first place. However, in these cases, the remnant is often infected with agony, which I think doesn't really require any artificial intelligence to bring stuff to life, and instead can literally infect anything, often giving these things a twisted, distorted version of the personalities of the original characters, and when it comes to these "souls", making them feel angry and sad, or enhancing any negative emotions they already have. Beings brought to life with agony don't really think for themselves either. They may appear self-concious, but are actually just like rabid animals, seeking only to kill and consume.
Weird dude, dealt with grief badly. Hell, not much of a father. Definitely not a heroic figure, either. Went to all the trouble to build a whole set of replacement goldfish, then offed himself. As far as the game continuity version of him, well. The theory that he was convicted after being framed for the MCI at least explains his absence. Heck, explains his insane plan to wrap everything up in Pizzeria Simulator, too. There was nothing else for it. He decided that it all needed to be destroyed, and did what he thought would accomplish that. When all hell has broken loose, you need to make hard decisions. Doesn't make up for what he allowed to happen. Doesn't make up for what he did. Acting like he's a monster because he tried to put an end to all of the horrors, though, is short-sighted.
Henry is possibly the first and most obvious example of this series' problem of intentionally leaving parts of the story vague to later sell as lore in other merchandise. What was possibly just some guy that dies in a desk becomes the business partner that only exists in the game where he sets everyone on fire, to then become the tragic inventor that can only kill himself and set everyone on fire in 2030 -- otherwise it can't be the Afton show. As other people have said, you could write him to take the wrap or have the company legally declare him insane to lock away in a prison or mental institution for decades. They could have written him to slowly lose his humanity figuring out what Afton's up to and only coldly care about "fixing" the problem of all these living killer robots. But all they can think to do is make him Sad Man that builds Lefty, maybe makes robo daughter and then commit suicide by arson.
Henry... Just missed. No matter what it seems like Henry was really just in their own world. ~ Now as for the Micheal point I don't know if that's exactly true Henry created the Pizzaria and I'm unsure how much of the gameplay of adding things to it is canon but like. I think Henry had the idea of having someone else not Micheal be in there and escape. But when he realized it was Micheal he ditched that. My issue is still concept wise it still means he planned for someone else to be in this Pizzaria what would have happened if they ended up dying in the process? And even if not what if it didn't work well? In the end maybe there might be reason in the future of the game timelines to more-so justify their being gone but I still feel they could have done things better or maybe I'm overestimating their intelligence and mind. ~~ I also just feel really bad for Charlie and Baby honestly. Got done dirty.
I agree with everything except for the part where Henry didn’t know who took the job. At the end, he said the job wasn’t intended for him, but by happenstance, someone connected to the tragedies took it. I believe this is enough to suggest that Henry knew who took the job. But yes. It is clear he didn’t talk to Michael about it. And that’s messed up he didn’t let anyone go on their own terms. He’s a father who still sees himself as a father and won’t let his children grow up or make their own choices. A lesser evil to Springtrap, but still bad
I feel like the idea of Henry is that Henry also went insane alongside William. While William went crazy over his work, Henry went crazy with justice on his mind. Willie wanted to help everyone live forever; Henry wanted to end the slaughter. William was on the attack with the Funtimes; Henry was on the defense with the Toys. William made it impossible for Michael to die; Henry helped Mike achieve rest. Both men abandoned their families for violent ends, disregarding the feelings of everyone around them. And both of them ended up dead due to their creations, Henry through deliberate defensive action, Will by accident during an offensive maneuver. While only Big W was the real pure evil out of the two, by the time this ordeal ended, the conflict had consumed them both. Anyway, Henry was just as insane as William, just for different reasons.
Fr like "I have a feeling you are... " Bro...even if Michael is a walking skinsuit, Henry need to ask him first if Michael has any others important business before he get burn
Weird thing just happened. I'd been binging these FNAF discussion videos for a while and two channels really jumped out to me as my favorites, a channel with text to speech and this one. After like 15 videos I realized they were the same channel lmao. Well I'll subscribe then
About the fire against the remnant. You know, Freddy files Ultimate edition book actually complicate things a bit. It literally says Remnant=Agony. In my eyes the remnant-agony can be only destroyed through something like the happiest day - but the fire might be just a symbol, but also the key factor that makes up the whole" You see - the fact that they never are getting destroyed through the burning has to have its own explanatiom. As William and the MCI kids - (imo there where just five kids as a whole) - souls in freddy, Bonnie, chica, foxy and puppet but also ennard and baby so Elizabeth are all staying after the burn out. In my opinion the Agony makes them unreachable but also chained until they will find their "happiest day"
Henry waited over 40 YEARS to do something (since fredbears was in 1983 and pizza sim takes place at the end of 2023 or early 2024) 40 long goddamn YEARS. He had all the time in the world to rectify the past. To stop his ex parter. But him sitting on the sidelines just let more people die
CLEAR HEADED! He reopened Freddie’s after a murder incident made animatronics that could end up killing a kid back at Fredbears, didn’t stop actin from making the fun times, and burned himself alive
Remember when Henry said that he started to realize whats happening? (Fnaf 6 the insanity ending) I dont think he didnt care about possesed puppet/his daughter I think he didnt know about it
My biggest issue with Henry is, if you just removed him from the story...you wouldn't lose much , one quotable speech? A few filler exposition pages from the books? The story of fnaf only really requires willaim to tell it , Henry's involvement is so weak that you could literally just place all his actions in the games as being done by fazebear entertainment trying to tie loose ends.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Its like how Henry assumes Micheal wants to die, and doesnt even care about the fact he had Micheal work his ass off. With his life handled by a thread having to deal with animatronics in multiple locations without any help.
out of all characters, Henry Emily gets the Rose Quartz syndrome, a backstory in reverse, a father viewed by many as a better co-worker, yet in the past, he acts very much like a stubborn afton, always busy, neglectful, etc. Can we continue this backstory in reverse character arc trend?
A possibility for his inaction is his depression and grief, as from personal experience, that combo can leave a person unable to get any work done. So that, combined with him potentially being the one falsely convicted for the MCI, is probably what led to the inaction until several decades later. (With first the death of Charlie leading to the inaction up to and around the MCI, then him being falsely convicted and being in jail for probably 30+ years leading to no action until some point after FNaF 3) And then regaining footing in society to get the budget to make all the stuff for the fake pizzeria, as well as materials to make Lefty, which would've taken even more time. Now this doesn't excuse his methods or anything for once he DID start actually doing stuff, this is only to explain why it would've taken him so long.
You know. At this point I started to accept that every game since sister location is in the same timeline of the books. And that the og four are theirs very own timeline, separated from the garbage that came after
tbh I feel like that cassette tape at the end has in itself the reason why Henry assumes that Michael is ready to die: true, he wouldn't know that, but 1) it's a really reasonable assumption to make; 2) the cassette tape, being a recorded message (but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't make much of a difference to Henry's knowledge), has no way of knowing if Michael is still in the pizzeria or not; if he is, then Henry's assumption is correct (since Michael would have all the time to escape, if he wanted), but if he isn't, that's still fine, it just means that Henry's assumption was incorrect... but he didn't trap Michael in the pizzeria, so while incorrect it wouldn't be a harmful assumption like, say, if he closed everything and burnt it down with Michael still inside just because of a hunch. In the end, Michael was stil there, so Henry's assumption while wild was correct, that's why I din't think it's right to be upset to him because of it
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Y'know... A really easy out, at least in terms of the games, for Henry's absence and inaction could have been that HE was the one who went to jail for William's crimes after the first MCI. A simple call back to the newspaper from FNaF1 would have been all that was needed. It would also give a LOT more justification for his grief and honestly shark-jumping plan of burning everything to the ground! Imagine just stewing behind bars, wrongly imprisoned for the actions of someone you may have thought of as a friend once, for the same man that killed your daughter...and now you're here. To rot and treated like a criminal. Any person would lose their mind to grief that way.
...Actually, that is a BRILLAINT idea. In fact, that could even explain Henry's somewhat callous nature after the fact too, considering that he spent years in prison dealing with it.
Not only dealing with it, but probably being reminded of it every single day. The first MCI was probably the most horrific set of murders the area had ever seen. That on top of being the co-owner, would probably have registered Henry as a high-profile criminal and sent him to a maximum security prison with a solitary holding cell. Completely cut off from the world with no way to defend his image and looked at with disgust by the guards and maybe even some of the other inmates. He'd have several decades of a personal hell that would nearly justifiably shape his character later. To bad even Scott forgot that little nugget of info from his first game.
@@ohheyitswolfie I mean hed likely been shanked and near death due to the fact it isnt just murders but repotedly children gone missing (likely presumed dead)
this is one of my favourite theories
This is so genius, this is now my personal headcanon for what happened to Henry. It makes all the pieces line up way better than what we see in-game.
I find it interesting how Michael spent so long trying to fix what he was a part of when he was a teenager (at oldest) when it all went down whilst Henry was a whole adult and did far less to fix things
there also the fact he suffer a lot more when trying to stop them just look at him becouse from what we can tell he was the protaganist for all the games exept 4 so he survive multiple locations a fire that may or may not have bin him trying to end his dad and then was trap and burn alive by his dad partner who did nothing until now also i forgot to mention the fact he got his guts ripped out and stuffed with robot parts threw up those said robot parts turn purple and became some sort of zombie
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 Your point is even stronger in the event someone was to follow the theory that you play as Michael when fending off the nightmare animatronics in FNaF 4, where the theory suggests nights are post CC death while the minigames are pre death.
so even in his early youth, he would need some serious back support for carrying all the games minus Security Breach and Ultimate custom night.
@@M4x4r0ni hu never knew about the theory but still even without fnaf 4 there still every other game so ya there also fnaf world but we dont talk about fnaf world
@@arandomthingintheabyss2062 that's fair. Although, if we really wanted to, one could probably figure out a way to make Michael the protag of fnaf world. It honestly wouldn't surprise me.
@@M4x4r0ni ya but we can all agree at least mostly Micheal the person who suffers the most or at least in the top 3
My biggest gripe with Henry is that he's such an interesting character because of all his flaws but we barely got any of him before he kicked the bucket. Had he been introduced at ANY point prior to Pizza Sim (which Scott had ample time to do but didn't) I think we could've had something really special. As is, he couldn't even get away with playing the 'hero' since SB recontextualizes him to just be a loser.
If we got to properly dive into his and William's dynamic and their sins it'd be much more meaningful to see Henry finally put a stop to it (and he can still be a terrible person cus I dig that)
Really like your videos! I've been using them as background audio the past few days and you talk about a lot of interesting things with FNaF's writing. Never really see it analyzed this much and it's really fun to hear and think about it.
Oh, thank you so much! I'm glad to hear that! 8D
And same, definitely agree.
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THIS is the issue with fnaf. Some people ask for it to go back to “what it was” but to me other than phone guy, we never had seen much actually developed in depth complex characters in the games.
is william still mad he hasnt gotten his 5 dollars back?
You're not going to talk bad about Scott.
That’s what I’M SAYING, dude!
He was ultimately a neglectful, depressive father who put work before his family, I mean people wonder why his wife isn’t mentioned in the novel. Charlie’s stubborn-nature and sure-fire persistence are a clear sign of Henry failing to encourage his daughter, caught up in his own limbo of catharsis. Grieving or not, he had responsibilities.
But arguably, still a better father than William lmao.
A wolf raising a feral child would be a better father, so not a high bar to clear there.
Don't say stupid things.
@@JCArules13 You 🧠n't? Don't say stupid things.
@@scottchaison1001 It’s stupid to mention the obvious fact that Afton was a terrible father to the point that a child raised by a wild animal would have a better childhood? Maybe you should follow your own advice. Especially since “you brainn’t?” makes no sense and isn’t a word.
@@JCArules13 that is such a good way of putting it
I get the feeling Henry was intended to be the parental victim, broken and deeply flawed but ultimately trying-to-be-good hero of the story with FNAF 6, but the writing of both games and books fumbled him so much that there are these massive unexplained or poorly-explained actions and absences that really don't speak to that.
Fnaf is basically a jumble of character plots slowly crumbling
You hate the ending of fnaf 6?
The books aren't canon
@@anonymouslucario285 I think it's as satisfying as it could have been given the circumstances. An overall well-executed conclusion to a clusterfuck of a story.
@@anonymouslucario285 Not canon to the games.* They're their own thing with their own separate canon. I haven't read past The Silver Eyes personally, and going by what I've heard from summaries of the sequels, it's all downhill from there, so I'm not all too inclined to haha. TSE (as a standalone story) is a genuinely solid book, and my favorite depiction of Henry.
For Lefty,I always imagined that Charlotte would refuse to see Henry and would flee or be agressive,hence why Lefty was created, to literally control her,and make sure she burns in the fire too
What?!?! That's crazy
@@_MECHA_ the thing other is Charlie soul was still around even after William was stringlocks and dead[ even though he came back]. During the happiest day all the other souls moved on but Charlie mask fall down slowly showing that Charlie was not ready for moving on.
But why is Lefty trying to kill the player. I don't think she was designed to do so.
I imagine her fleeing but not being aggressive, by the time of fnaf 3 she was already pacific, she doesn't attack us
@@CourtRobGrayfirst its not canon for Charlotte killing you its just that she again hunted william and killing him. While charlote didnt know the death of william from the springlock, she was not dismantled with the other animatronics not knowing william is dead. Thats why cassidy isnt in the fnaf 6 pizzarea as she is already an ally against william
Ain't it weird Scott writes the villains and heroes with similar character flaws.
-lack of sympathy
-obsession with children that died
-genius inventors
-both abandoned their families
-attempts to force everyone into going alongside his plan without their knowledge or wish
Symmetry my friend
It's speculated that Henry was the one who went to jail for William's crimes, since according to the newspapers in FNaF1, someone WAS convicted. That would explain why it took him so long to show up.
That's my headcanon personally
I like to think is was Willaim, But not for the Missing kids but for him killing Charlie, But he got away free because they was no prove.
He would've likely been sentenced to death if that was the case. This was Utah in the 1980s.
@bitshox1215
Death sentences in the US do take time to carry out. Sometimes actual decades. And new evidence can help get someone off.
I think Michael was responsible for the FNAF 3 fire, and that Henry was convinced for Williams crimes, being why he was missing from the timeline for so long, and why he makes less than sane decisions on multiple occasions.
Mental illness isnt an excuse for bad behavior. It can frame why someone does something, but shouldn't ever excuse the actions
As someone who suffers from chronic depression, I absolutely hate it when people use it to excuse people's actions.
Its so infantalizing when people act like we cant understand our actions because of our depression. We arent fucking two, we are ournown induvidual that can feel more than one emotion and are capable of complex understanding
To be fair, for the fact that Henry still planned the Fnaf 6 fire even the the Fnaf 3 fire didn't work, maybe Fazbear Fright wasn't like, properly sealed or smthg, and Henry could have thought this to be a cause of why William survived. I mean, the Fnaf 6 pizzeria was literally DESIGNED and BUILT to be a deathtrap, whereas it prolly wasn't the case for Fazbear Fright, hence why Henry may have had a point when thinking this second fire woul be more efficient.
But yeah, he ain't a great person and deffo could've done more against William
Maybe it could have actually been William, but! Framed Henry for it. That’s my guess at least.
@@darktooth4576 the question isnt whether henry did it, its whether he went to jail for it. obviously everyone knows he didnt
I absolutely agree, hate how Henry is shoehorned in as a hero and badass opposite of William
Same. I feel like it would've done Henry's character better to introduce him earlier and give him a little more to work with.
Don't say stupid things.
Still a badass tho
Do you mean by the story perspective or by the fandom because by story perspective it just seems like he was just incredibly spiteful against William
@@garlicamvs6235 By story perspective. Especially since we've never even seen any clue of Henry in previous games, they don't even take time to set up him as a character.
Great video as always! I feel like Henry was never supposed to be in the games in the first place but Scott changed his mind when it was time to make Pizza Sim because he needed someone to deliver the ending speech and only Henry kinda fit that bill, even though there was never any build up to it, making it come out of left field.
On thing I’d like to add to the Henry Emily is a bad person bandwagon is that in the insanity ending Henry lobotomizes Michael for finding the blueprints and the hidden tapes, and, you know, since he wasn’t sure who that could have been it makes him even more of an asshole, like, he’s not above killing, but what he did was even worse because he left Michael as a vegetable. One could go as far as to even argue that it makes Henry worse than William himself.
I totally forgot about that lobotomize part. O.O
I'm sure that because during the insanity ending we've playing it in the vents area so my best guess is that the animatronics heard the plan Henry had and immediately made a beat line to the exit
I'm not defending Henry or anything
@@matthewmcbride778 That's actually a good explanation. I never understood why that "prevented a solution", as the ending suggests. Not that any of this matters, though, because that ending is obviously as non-canon as Michael getting fired for being a lazy ass or going bankrupt, lol. It's a joke ending. It shouldn't be seen as a canonical look into Henry's character.
@@damkylan3I think it’s much like the private room ending in Sister location where it shows what would’ve happened if Michael made a different choice
I have a feeling Henry and Michael had an unspoken mutual agreement on it being Michael's time to die.
Michael is a freak, he shouldn't be alive, he says it himself "I should be dead, but I am not.". His road ended ages ago, he's offroad heading directly towards a sheer dropoff, he doesn't know when or where, but he knows it's coming.
I feel like Henry is just trying to end off all the tragedy. He's putting an end to all the unnatural shit he caused, or so he feels he caused. It's a final good deed to the world, Henry killed his daughter, his business partner, and his frnachise, but if he were to leave Michael alive, he'd be leaving a loose end. It's not a good guy move, but it's the right move. The right choice isn't always the good choice.
Agreed. The situation couldn't be fixed at that point, and the only thing that could be done was just to burn it all.
When everything has spiraled out of control, and all hell has broken loose, you need to make hard choices.
@@DudeTheMighty 100% agree. Henry may not be a good guy, but he's making the decisions that are good for everyone else.
And Henry even said he had a way out planned for Michael. He didn’t just leave him to die, he planned out a way of escape for Michael.
@@connorharris1514 The video addressed that: Henry PLANNED an escape route, but assumes Mike wouldn't be interested and either A: didn't implement the escape route or B: implemented it, but just didn't give Mike the option to actually USE it.
Whether or not he was correct in the assumption, the POSSIBILITY that Mike might not want to die was totally ignored by Henry and he murdered him anyway.
@@jabberwockthelemur2961 Or maybe Mike actually made the choice to stay
Honestly i think Henry at least in the books knowing Charlie wasnt really Charlie could be what cause him to treat her more like a object because he knew she actually was one so the illusion didnt really work for him.
even than he didn't treat the real charlie any better after she became the puppet
@@NotEmilio how so?
"Henry wasn't a great person"
Dayshift at Freddy's Henry: 💀
8:57 yea that bit always stuck out as weird to me. I don’t think there was any concrete evidence that we play as Micheal in Pizza Sim (anything other than dialogue from the robots and Henry’s speech), so Henry’s making a lot of assumptions about this dude he hired, of which he never interacts with personally other than tape recordings.
For all Henry knows, the Franchise Package owner could be some random hobo or aubergine orphan from the Bronx who saved up enough money to change his life, so his assumption that they want to stay and burn with the rest kinda loses nobility.
Luckily for Dave, this isn't the first time someone's tried to set him on fire. He's a real slippery eel.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 In a rabbit suit no less
I remembered constantly suggesting that Henry's plan in Fnaf 6 was pure evil but nobody believed me, this quite literally proved every single thing I said.
Honestly I wish William and Henry could have been evil besties like dasf.
@@Bloodclot20 i wouldnt count henry as being daves friend in dsaf
Evil how?
@@kwayneboy1524 its a long story, but im pretty sure this unnamed youtuber also stood up to my theory too
@@agentburningbutters3655 yeah but in what sense in specific?
i think LEFTE was created to at least decrease the aggressiveness of puppet to michael
Let's remember that in fnaf 2 the only thing that kept her from killing him was a music box and if it wasn't, it could also serve as a capsule so Charlie doesn't escape, it takes a lot of details that we will never have lol
I don't know because there's actually no reason to do that Springtrap is in the building and even if they wouldn't be in the building he didn't have to create LEFTE he could have created the thing that calls the puppet and just installed it in the final days. Part of the reason I feel it was LEFTE was to make sure the puppet burned as well.
Since Micheal clearly can handle living in these places and if that was really the case why didn't he just install a music box into the Pizzaria?
@@zelz3011 well on the pizza sim ending speech henry does implicitly state that the volunteer could have been somebody else
@@pomelo9518 That's heat and you are so smart.
If only I was better at beat saber.
Maybe it was also to protect Charlie by using Lefty as an armor against William if he tried to attack her.
@@MA-rf6bu It SHOCKS HER!
Also I don't think she can control it.
Like it would be fine if it was like blueprinted to be able to be controled by the puppet and to square up with William but that's not the case.
I don't know anything about the books, but I think in the games Henry is a good, definitely flawed, but good person. For starters, the line in Pizzeria Simulator definitely implies to me that there is an escape route that Michael knows about, however Henry knows Michael probably won't want it. I also think that Henry's treatment of the puppet makes sense given its incredible power and its willingness to kill innocents such as security gaurds; He understands it's a threat, understands that it isn't truly his daughter and understands that the safest course of action is to destroy it with everything else. I think Henry's main flaw is his inaction, if you don't believe the fan theory that he was imprisoned than it is pretty awful that he didn't do anything, however I think he earns his redemption from that by his final action in Pizzeria Simulator, burning all the harm he allowed to spread.
You are right
I'm not know English well but that mean henry is goid person right?
If Michael knew about the exit, why would Henry say that it "was planned", but also that he has "a feeling" that Michael wouldn't want to use it? The way it's phrased suggests that Henry is just now revealing that he *would have* made an exit if not for *thinking* Michael has a death wish.
Spot on. See I was thinking about this, when imagining the rewrite for SB. That Henry vanishes for 3 decades, then just "apperars" out of the blue, and Basically kills himself.
He never tries to reconcile with his daughter, or maybe aproach the parents even. He never aproaches the confused and scared spirits who probably Need guidance to NOT KILL PEOPLE! He just waltzes in and sets himself on fire.
There are so many problems with that solution that it is riddicolous..
EDIT: Wait Lefty was shocking the puppet/Charlie? Never noticed that. That is just evil.
William would've never gotten off the ground with Henry level-headed - hence, Charlie's death was necessary in both the games and the books to get him where he got to. But Henry never did seem to come back at all - perhaps, as some might frame it, he _didn't_ know, stricken with grief as he was initially, that he left the franchise to William with the trust that in his hands the killer would be caught, unknowing of the shared identity between those two. Or, perhaps he just.. spiraled away into apathy. I've seen interpretations of Henry range immensely, from caring father to complete deadbeat who scared the ghost of his daughter away from himself again, and between the sides of the spectrum, I think it's the other that's more accurate.
That all said, I think the issue here lies in the same place as everyone else's - Scott isn't known for writing stories. He's not known for making human characters, any more than he's known for making his models mechanically accurate or keeping his designs consistent. He's known for his horror atmosphere crafting, which he _is_ damn good at, even if the games might have odd choices in mechanics and lore and characters and so forth. I think the intent with Henry was that he was supposed to be just sort of different, perhaps leaning towards low-level autism or a similar condition, and that he sort of treated his machines and the people around him all the same when they were all running well. Given the frog in the novels, that concept could be turned around further - if someone wasn't how he thought they should be, well, he might just make them be that way instead. But I doubt it was meant to go that far. He seemingly just doesn't empathize with others very well, even if he does see that what William was up to was absolutely in the wrong. The books sort of set this up - he's described as being closer to the machines than the employees, being the brilliant but incomprehensible inventor, and as treating his family like a secret side hobby rather than his main focus - it's specifically stated as such. I've seen plenty of interpretations follow this, and it seems the general community-accepted characterization of him sort of is like that, where he truly does love Charlie and presumably the rest of his family (and he certainly should, before everything went wrong) but he just doesn't communicate well, be that receiving what he's being told or saying what he should, both of those verbally or not. One line that stuck with me detailed a version of Michael during the trapped pizzeria's work cycle, which goes something like "Michael didn't need to sleep and could work nearly all hours of the day, so he was expected to". Henry there was depicted as not needlessly cruel (though that same story had him direct Charlie to place Michael's soul into a body safe from the fire to allow him to watch over what comes after, meaning that interpretation _also_ knew the fire wouldn't solve everything), but just as treating people like machines with a maximum capacity they operate at, and not really understanding their wants, only their needs. And that wasn't intentional, not in that story.
Also, one thing I do want to point out - I won't speak for Henry's mental state in the games (he speaks enough as is), but book Henry is straight up insane. He drove himself insane by running a few hundred illusion disks all day every day for years and deluding himself in his weird fake pizzeria under his house to the point of thinking that his family was still there with him, until he sort of pulled himself back from it with help from Jen. I think he built all his replica daughters after that point (one of which he left on constantly while it sat there in a mess of painful emotions it could not process), and resorted to suicide once he realized they would never replace what he once had - I don't know if he really knew what he'd made, that he'd if not brought her back at least essentially replicated her mind or soul, and imbued machines with emotions made into a form of energy or similar. By that point he was too far gone mentally to do that sort of thing. I suspect the murder machine he used wasn't made specifically for that purpose - though its unmoving and terribly sorrowful face might've been and its giant sword of a hand definitely was, the rest of it was always a standard endo that he slapped some unique parts onto. I suspect he simply wanted to die at the hands of one of his machines, rather than his own, so it wouldn't be a suicide anymore in his messed-up head. Not that being murdered is better, as he should've known from those around him.
Can you give the name of the story you mention of how Henry sees Michael? And the name of the site where you found it as well? Sounds very interesting and would like to give it a read
@@piratebones9641 It's one of the various pieces written for FNaF on Archive Of Our Own. The one I detailed was one of the many SB rewrites where Michael takes the form of some variation of Glamrock Foxy, though I forget the name.
@@ultmateragnarok8376 thanks for the response, I shall look into it
Bro wrote a whole essay
@@harvken9332 That's what comments are for.
You are all forgetting about the fact, that Henry was ok with his workers getting springlocked inside the suits, and even built special rooms for them to go, when it happens.
(Sorry for any mistakes or misspeling, english is not my native language)
BRO HUH
I feel like the best example of Henry as a character is not in canon FNAF but in the fan game DSaF 3
This line alone speaks and explains everything about him after being defeated (spoilers btw)
“I don’t understand…”
“I am the protagonist….”
People seem to fail to notice one big factor in the necessity of LEFTE: Charlie is a huge wild card with no actual alliegances and only 1 exploitable weakness (the security puppet signal). If left to her own devices, she'd most likely try going after both Mike and William again like she had in the past (FNAF 2 and 3) or even Baby and Freddy due to the souls inside them, and become a wrench in Henry's plan, which I'm pretty sure was stated to rely on keeping ALL the animatronics isolated from each other on top of keeping them trapped. Charlie being completely aware and her gameplay mechanics in 2 show that none of the fake party bait would've worked on her because she's not bound by the same child-seeking programming that Baby, Molten Freddy, and Springtrap were compelled to obey, meaning she could beeline straight to anyone first chance she got or subsequently escape once the fire started and potentially go back to giving more kids life and creating more killer animatronics with all the people capable of stopping them already out of the picture. Even if she wasn't evil, Charlie was still a danger to everyone because of how uncompromising she is in her goals ("I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way") and because there was no way to control or manipulate her reliably like with the other animatronics.
Thank you. Another big factor i see is that Henry "forced Charlie to burn". Did they just forget that possessing animatronics was entirely something they never wanted and it was more of a curse than anything? Trapping her in the pizzeria was a mercy kill. Same with Michael, he was nothing but a shell of his former self trying to free the children. He did that, and so Henry understood perfectly clear he'd be ready to rest too.
@@KiiBon Its implied that he didnt know it was Michael
@@wiwitutsu2175 imagine not knowing your co owner's son who caused the bite of 83 in your co owner's diner
I don't think Charlie would've gone after Golden Freddy at any point even if C.C's soul was inside of it. But she would definitely wreck Elizabeth
This is absolutely true.
As flawed as Henry is, I don’t know why people are bashing him for Lefty of all things.
I thought the necessity was obvious????
Michael and Charlie weren’t the only ones trying to stop William, Golden Freddy/Cassidy was also trying to, and with UCN, I think Cassidy almost succeeded until Help Wanted, then everything went downwards.
He's basically Bojack Horseman but if he went into robotics rather than showbusiness.
Loved this, you made very good points. Henry did not do much until the end when he should have dealt w it much earlier. Good analysis.
Thank you! 8D
I’d like to see an AU where Charlie hates Henry (for more drama 😏) but of course, Charlotte is too kind-hearted to do that 😶
I’d love to see some realistic bitterness. XD
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 lol
What do you mean by that?
Like, not act so forgiving towards him for not only causing her even more pain during the fire, but not being there for her when she died
Being mentally ill dose not mean their actions don't effect people.
My mother has bi-polar depression, and her depression makes her say these horrible awful things to those around her and makes her believe in delusions and conspiracy theories that aren't real. I couldn't handle it anymore, and decided to seek counseling, I have been going to it for months now.
So no, just because someone has a mental illness dose not mean that there actions should be excused or mean that they're actions don't effect other people.
On one hand, for at least thirty of the years Henry was sitting around doing nothing to fix anything, William wasn't a threat.
On the other hand, the *reason* William wasn't a threat was because a bunch of ghost kids at least *tried* to solve the problem when Henry the alive grown man didn't.
Ahhh Henry Henry Henry. As much as I love Henry’s speech it is really undermined from the insanity ending’s (like a lot of things were) reveal about how lefti was supposed to function or just lefti in general. But when pizzasim came out these were plot beats I was more than willing to sweep under the rug. Sure Baby yoyoed her personality, sure there was some retcons with the fnaf2 minigames involving the pupper, sure mustard man and the insanity ending brought up questions no asked for, but just the core concept was so good and satisfying that I didn’t really care. I was willing to overlook those details. But now with security breach just taking away all of those good parts we’re just left with this mess. Honestly part of me wanted to cobble together some copium fueled theory that this wasn’t actually henry but just something else with the beginning part after the fake pizza minigame being henries attempt. But it still just leaves a blackhole where the plot should be. And book henry, dear lordy I hate book henry and his stupid robot kids. I understand that grief can make people act irrationally but everything henry did was just so cartoonish that it made everyone else’s motives look silly especially book baby. I think its why i loved dsaf3’s (also I don’t think ive got to thank you for compiling everything involving those games ^^) ending so much. It was basically everything that was good from pizzasim distilled from the bad with its own spin. I still do like henry’s speech though and will occasionally listen to for no reason ^^
Honestly the insanity ending of Simulator kinda adds more to the idea that Henry is a bad person considering his first instinct is to get the person who discovers these secrets... institutionalized and apparently lobotomized too. Pretty hefty punishment for discovering your own archives that you put in their reach
@@sonic8005 It's because the animatronic know that the entire thing is a trap.
Don't say stupid things.
@@sonic8005 The player character would be an unsafe variable if they knew all about remnant and the foundations of his plans- so it's unethical, yeah, but I can see where he was coming from.
@@scottchaison1001 You could use your own advice
In FNAF 1 a newspaper story says that the killer (with the missing children situation) was CONVICTED…. Could Henry have gotten arrested for what William did and wasn’t released until Pizzeria Simulator hence why he wasn’t in the story and possibly COULDN’T stop William even if he wanted to?
Someone else mentioned that possibility and I think that would've been a great idea! But nowhere does it say that's what happened. 8/ Henry's monologue in the Insanity Ending has him admit that he hadn't stepped in when he could've, which I think he wouldn't have said if he was physically incapable of doing so.
He would've likely been sentenced to death if that was the case. This was Utah in the 1980s.
"Walking bear-trap" is a great play on words.
Thank you. 83
I think the most almost comedically terrible aspect of how hard they undid the ending of pizza sim was that of the 12 people/souls (the 5 original kids plus ballora and Funtime foxy, assuming they're both haunted plus baby, puppet, Henry, Mike, and grandpa willy) present in the fire, y'know the one that was supposed to be Henry's way of ridding himself of the guilt of it all by putting an end to everything, there's a very high chance Henry himself was the only one that actually died and had his soul put to rest permanently.
Grief does make you do stupid things in the worst cases. But deciding people's fates for them, hurting them further despite supposedly caring for them, that's not grief. That's selfishness. At best he's overcompensating for the lack of action before, but his pain, in the end, is all that matters to him. Not the grieving parents, the families of the security guards.
The only thing needed for evil men to win is for good men to do nothing.
And to add onto the layer of “messed up” Henry built Suicide-bot in FRONT OF CHARLIE.
Yeah, I sadly agree, henry could have been such a cool character, he could have burned fazbears fright, had a moment of interaction with his daughter, and given mike the option to escape, when re-writeing him, rather than just leaving his daughter to witness his death, he gives a note to his sister, someone he'd trust with his (Alive in the re-write) Daughter, due to not really knowing where his wife has gone (Or maybe trys to reach out to her) and waits until she's somewhere that she wouldn't see what happens, and pizza sim will be Much different, instead of him setting the place up in fire, the one who does will be left unknown, but the recording is actually a pre-recording, made by Henry before he took his life, it was in reality left for his daughter, but, there was someone else who found it (This isn't finalized, and the pizza sim fire actually might be much different) But, now that im done rambling, this video really points out the flaws in Henry's character, and is very well formatted as always! Incredible job!!!!
I really like those ideas! That could've changed the entire mood.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Thank you!! I'm very exited to implement this story into the re-writes!
This was really interesting! I’ve never read the SE trilogy so when I heard some people mention offhand that Henry displayed some… less-than-desirable… traits, I didn’t actually know the details. Now I do!
I think some (not all, but some) of these issues are simply due to faulty writing. The FNAF books I have read are interesting, but as someone who minored in creative writing and has been writing for around 15 years, the writing is… not always stellar, to put it nicely. My guess is that because Henry’s speech at the end of FNAF 6 acted partially as an infodump, it was meant to simply communicate that Michael did want to die and that he was going to die in the fire. That they were on the same page. I think there was oversight regarding the VERY unfortunate implications that could create about Henry. Same with the Puppet, infodumping without going out of their way to clarify that freeing the Puppet was good for her. The shock thing though… yeaaaah. I didn’t know about that, that’s fricked up. I mean we know music boxes put it to sleep Henry, just… just have Lefty play music or something.
Weird that some of the visuals in the graphic novels seem to be aware that things Henry is doing are messed up (like the toy thing), but the story itself never openly acknowledges it. Or, not enough. I think if it had it could’ve been really interesting to get a more nuanced look at this character. I’d like to know why he sat back and waited so long (besides, y’know, him not existing until the novels came out, which meant they had to write him in late but that’s not an excuse).
I don’t agree with everything you said here but it was informative and really well done! Really good video. Anyway I’ll stop picking it apart like a pseudo-intellectual now, lol.
I can’t say for sure, but I believe that the books went from one to three rather quickly. Time constraints could’ve definitely been the cause of some of these issues. I’m also wondering if the writer had story mandates they had to fill, like with Security Breach’s story. Like Pizzeria Simulator, The Fourth Closet also ends in a substantial infodump where they stop to tell the readers information they wouldn’t otherwise know. I wonder if this was a result of crunch time and additional plot milestones that needed to be met.
I noticed that with the graphic novels too! For example, in the Twisted Ones Charlie and John go on a date. This date is described as being uncomfortable and all but says Charlie didn’t have a good time. However, in the graphic novel it’s changed to showing Charlie having a good time. I understand why it was changed, as by the end of the book and the next these two are saying ‘I love you’s, but it is noticeable.
Also, thank you so much! Glad to hear it! :)
Well compared to Henry from DsaF, Henry in the Sins of the father was practically a Saint
Now imagine Michael and the possessed animatronics, yes, including Puppet, lashing out at Henry because of all of this.
That would have been sick to watch.
Amazing analysis video. I wish we could see more of Henry in the games.
'We must all fear evil men, but there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."
Henery being gone for 30+ years only to sweep in and try to deliver the final blow that Mike has been trying to do for ages rubs me the wrong way. I wish there had been some context as to where he's been, and why LEFTE was necessary. But those being unanswered just makes him look bad.
Loved the vid, keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! And I definitely agree. A little extra context could've gone a long way in this case.
I feel like he was the one who was framed for the killing, which might be why he’s been practically non existent till now. He reminds me of the twist jigsaw killer in the movie Jigsaw, where this guy was almost always there from the beginning but had his own troubles
Don't say stupid things.
@@scottchaison1001 or maybe you shouldn't say anything at all, spammer
Simple retcons and bad writing. Also I don't see why no questions the other parents, I mean they also did nothing and we just pretend they don't exist for some reason?
Damn finally someone pointed it out! Like literally, Henry killing Mike without any reason always felt so strange to me, I feel surprised nobody talks about how he just let this guy to die
I mean, Michael might have told him beforehand tho?
@@aeshaahme3774 nah that wouldnt make sense
@@aku2136 why wouldn’t it make sense?
@@aeshaahme3774 he doesnt know who is in the office, so how would he tell Mike that he is gonna burn the place down beforehand if he doesnt know who will be in the office?
@@aku2136 I thought that he tried to find dudes for the job, and then Michael showed up. And, a rotting corpse coming up is quite concerning tho? Since Michael is wanting to track down William, he would team up with Henry and end this. Micheal doesn’t even struggle.
honestly i love the idea of henry being this tragic figure where his inability to healthily deal with his grief caused him to hurt everyone else around him, i think that could be something really cool that they could explore
if only the series actually focused and elaborated on that instead of framing him as this perfect hero-
In the books he rights to Jen to blow up the house and shoot whatever walks out meaning Charlie. He knew living in his delusions of her being alive was not healthy and so he wanted her to be destroyed. Doesn’t make it any better but I think that’s why he never had a plan for where charlie would go after his death
"He didn't choose what overtook him", "He didn't choose to fight it." "He lost a child!' "HE HAD OTHER CHILDREN!" "No one could have understood what that must've been like", "We all lost Charlie". -Anne with an 'E'.
William is a terrible horrific disgusting disgrace of a dad
Henry is terrible dad
What a duo
How i see it, Henry did not inheritly intend to hurt his loved one, but he was a very ignorant person. He was so blinded by sadness and anger that he completeley disregarded, and ignored the people around him's feelings and thoughts. He was so focused on his own grief that he sacrficed the only two people he had left, Charlie and Michael and didn't even ask Mike what he really wanted to do during the fire, and even after it. He didn't even think about the fact that even though his actions might've lead to Afton's death (that didn't even happen which is even worse), he hurt SO many people in the process, even his daughter, a bunch of innocent nightguards, and even someone he probably considered more of a son than Sammy, because screw him apperantly, just to get the last say? In the end, it wasn't even worth it.
Tbh, it might be the intention of Scott. I like the fact that he's flawed.
You're right about Henry not thinking of what Michael really wanted to do at the end but at the same time his guess isn't really far off. Michael has nothing left to live for, his family is gone, he's known for the murder of his brother and he's literally a walking corpse that could collapse anytime. It's not worth it to try when you're just gonna live in vain.
And also I just thought of this, what if there is an escape plan but after Michael became a corpse Henry decided to just not tell Michael because he knows he'll be living in vain? Becoming a corpse isn't really something they expected to happen so that would mean that Henry planned out that escape incase Michael does wanna get out ALIVE because he still has a chance but becoming a corpse ruined that chance.
I love Henry as character so much. He sucks! His flaws feel very real, because while the situations are very exaggerated, he feels like a very realistically messed up person. I want to put him in a terrarium like a turtle and study him. He's a pathetic wet cat of a man, trying to be better, and failing miserably.
The only thing I would critique is that we have no idea when Henry actually found out about the robots being possessed. It could've been in the 80's or until much later.
He isn't that bad. I like him tbh
If I were to create a reimagining of Fnaf’s current storyline, I would’ve made Henry much more important, like maybe would’ve had him confront William at gunpoint during the night of his springlock failure, let’s say William disarms him and gives him the slip, then he starts to see the souls and attempts to shoot at them with obviously no success, so he runs to the room with the suit and locks the door behind him so Henry can’t get in, so Henry breaks down the door using a nearby fire axe, only to see that William has fully put on the suit, he starts to laugh and mock Henry as well as the souls, then the iconic springlock failure happens, believing William is dead and the children’s death finally received justice, he boards up the room and then goes to the box containing the puppet, caresses its head and says “I’ll be back soon Char” and leaves with a smile on his face, knowing that his daughter’s still with him
Shoot, I'm thinking of making something like that myself!
Henry is human, someone with flaws
I've always seen Henry as a grey character.
Light grey or dark grey?
pun intended? XD
So basically one of the biggest chads here is Michael Afton. Pog.
So basically Henry Springtrapped his daughter only she is in more pain than Afton
Exactly I was so pissed about lefty
Afton's also been set on fire after decomposing for thirty years, so he probably doesn't have much of a working nervous system *left.* Meanwhile Charlie's full-machine, but we *know* controlled shocks are terrible for animatronics to go through.
And she's *always going through one* in LEFT-E.
Kill-crazy robot that attacks any adult human she comes across. Ghost or not, that's a problem that needs to be dealt with. Michael had a job to do, and having one of the death machines under control (well, sort of under control) makes that more feasible.
Don't try to claim that "Oh, she wouldn't hurt Mike! They're both fighting against William Afton!", either. Remember FNaF 2? The only thing that kept her away from his throat was the damned music box. LEFT-E kept the puppet off of Mike's ass so he could do his job.
The plan was (to my understanding), let Michael do his job, and everyone could finally rest once the deed was done. Didn't work out like that, of course, but that was the plan.
@@DudeTheMighty Plus, in the Insanity Ending, henry says "Are they sentient? God, I hope not" He doesn't know if they are still fully 'there' or if it is just anger left, he has no idea how remnant works, so hes taking a shot in the dark
@@DudeTheMighty Needs to be pointed out that Michael looked a lot like 'him' as referenced by baby. Which would explain Puppet's hostility.
To be honest, I interpreted the lines "There was a planned escape, but I doubt that's what you want" to be a gun. A quick escape to avoid the fire. There was never a literal escape for Michael.
I think the important thing isn't to put emphasis on Henry as a perfect person he's a flawed man who saw what his life's work created and desired to fix it. He works for me as a hero because he's not perfect, but he wants to end the nightmare for everyone
i never saw henry as a good person or a hero, just the one to finally figure out how to end it all, he spent decades scheming im sure, and once he saw fazbear frights burn down he knew it was a good time to strike, lefte was to guarantee that charlie moved on aswell, Charlie also not being a good person seeing as she was the one to essentially give life to the dead children and let them inhabit the suits to try and get their revenge on William, essentially she created the killer robots
and honestly henry probably knew that michael was michael when giving the job to him, given how much of a corpse he would be, so he knew that to finish it all would be to kill him too
there is no good person in all of fnaf, everyone fucks up, everyone makes mistakes that let William live and continue his rampage, including cassidy if some theories are to be believed, so yeah, fnaf isnt a story with any heroes or villains, no good guys or bad guys like some mcu movie, its a story with humans, and also demons (good ol willy)
"The puppet claims not to like the others", oh I get it it all makes sense now, this whole time it was the Marrionette pulling the Strings
For the lefty thing, the way I see it is puppet was too stubborn for help, or guidance, she saw herself as the one who knew what to do, UCN alludes to this, so Henry probably had to make lefty, I'm not saying your wrong, just giving different pov
Hey just wanted to point out an error. Henry killed himself when Charlie was at school. In the novels (I’m not sure if this is made clear in the graphic novels) Charlie says that Jen picked her up from school.
Anyways I love your deep dive into Henry as a character. He’s sick an interesting character and I’ve never seen someone do such a deep analysis on him. Great job.
Honestly I think Henry was more interested in bringing Charlie back to life then actually being a father to her also is it just me or does anyone else think Scott may have taken some inspiration for FNAF from the 2009 Astro Boy movie
I always thought Henry's situation in the books regarding Charlie was an "Astroboy" situation. The fathers in both stories do very similar things after the death of their kid.
Out of desperation, Henry did absolutely everything he could to bring back his daughter. When he finally got what he wanted, Robot Charlie just acted as a constant reminder that his daughter was gone. Though the robot had Charlie's original brain and a similar personality, Henry realizes Charlie could never be truly revived.
But unlike Tenma from Astroboy, he doesn't force Charliebot to run away. Granted, what Henry actually did was arguably WAY WORSE, but I can see from this mindset that Henry couldn't see Charliebot as his daughter, and as simply a vessel of his real daughter's memories. He didn't care as much for Charliebot because he just saw her as a robot without emotions.
I can't go much further talking about his morals without going into the morality of robots and humans and AI and whether or not robots are humans and stuff, but I'll just say that I can SEE why Henry did what he did. He didn't react when Charliebot was crying, because, in his mind, this wasn't his daughter. He started building the s**cide robot over the course of months because he realized the real Charlie could never be relieved, and he was ready to die.
The simple answer is that Henry stopped caring for Charliebot as he stopped seeing her as his daughter who was dead. Of course, morally, it's wrong to make a robot with feelings and who sees you as a father and stop caring for it. But I can't go too far without arguing about robot morals, so I digress.
On the topic of Lefty, Henry didn't know if the possessed animatronics (except for William) were self-aware, if Charlie was aware of what was happening to her, and prays that they're not. This shows that while stuffing Charlie into Lefty is a dick move, he knows it and regrets that he has to do it.
And with Michael, he straight up says there was a way out for him. Yes, he says he thinks that's not what he wants, but he never stated if he blocked the escape route or not, leaving it up to interpretation on if Michael actually escaped, even though it's implied he stayed and stayed willingly.
Also, what else is Michael going to do? William and Elizabeth turned him into an undead freak, and likely has be brooding in self-loathing for killing his brother and failing to atone for his and his father's actions this point. He didn't free any of the children, failed at finding William for more than 30 years, and when he does find Willy, he failed to kill him. This is his chance to end this and he considers himself a loose end too.
Yeah it's kinda a given that Mike would rather be dead than live this way
Honestly I hate how they tried to infuse the novels and the games together, I know you can kind of make a story with it but most of the time it feels like two completely different stories just forced into one over ending story.
I don’t call the books canon, I just choose to follow the games.
Just like everyone else. And for good reasons. Up until scott comes out and says they are.
It's implied the four og games never happened so...
Same
@@Pygargue00fr I’m pretty sure that ain’t true.
@@CokeAColaMan1 Matt pat thinks so, and honestly. As much as it sucks and is basicly a huge middle finger to this franchise, it would make so much sense
@@Pygargue00fr if you wanna follow the word of that crazy man then all power to you but I think the things discussed are meant to be more canon in nature
Talking about dead people
I ADORE how DSaF handles it. It makes you FEEL guilty the phoneys literally tell you what they’re dealing with when you murder. Peter LITERALLY pulls you aside to talk to you and it’s the most (obligatory imo) powerful scene from a phoney. Doggo is good at making you feel so bad an guilty
Oh and then Henry. Henry.. Henry…
Henry is stupid the end.(the man literally just goes to fire. Never works.)
Lol so I recently saw a video which theorizes Henry was framed and put in jail. And wasnt released until around the time fnaf 6 happens. Its a theory only using the games, not the books or comics.
The way I personally see FNAF 6 Henry is a man who has made a lot of mistakes, and everything he does is for the purpose of rectifying them. He feels guilty for allowing William to get as far as he did and feels it's his responsibility to set things right. I believe that's what Scott wanted for the character, too. But then his treatment of Charlie and Michael just obliterates that. It would be one thing if Lefty was built to soothe the Puppet and keep her at peace, but it's clearly nothing but a glorified torture chamber. It feels so bizzarely sadistic and out-of-character for Henry to ensnare his own daughter like that. I honestly don't know what Scott was thinking. I hate how the Puppet was treated in FNAF 6 as a whole, but that's a whole different can of worms.
The puppet is just as angry as the others. She may say that she isn't, but she is. If Henry just soothed her, that wouldn't work and she would escape. Henry is using brutal pragmatism for what's ultimately the greater good.
in the book in the frog scene where charlie says: his eyes are to big. When Henry is trying to cut him open she wanted to say it outloud but she couldn´t. You can read it in the book! But Henry didn´t know that she doesn´t wanted this...
Henry is flawed, yes. If we are talking about game Henry, I'd disagree he is "evil" or "bad". I believe Scott wanted to make his character have moral ambigity.
Clearly he was blindsighted by having too much optimism in people..
I believe the Fazbear Fright book "Man in Room 180", the priest is suppose to be Henry.
Its not his lack of care but his lack of alignment to have the bravery to do something about William. He let him get away with it because he believed William could change.
In the end I believe Henry did the right thing, and attoned for his wrongs.
But the priest isn’t Henry is the problem. We can’t say elements were supposed to be one way when they weren’t. And while I think maybe it was supposed to be morally ambiguous, the books and games don’t really frame it like that. Not saying he’s evil, but I am saying that the narrative’s framing made him look extremely questionable.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 He's also eluded to in the Candy Cadet stories and Mr. Hippo's tales I believe
Ah, this is why I have conlicting feelings towards FNAF, there's so much potential and it could be a great opportunity to character development and characterization, but nope, and it's so frustrating haha
I think FNAF it's a great example of how to NOT tell a story, but man, I still love these shallow husks of characters, my god... I think a great example of "the flawd man trying his best" (just like Henry ) is Brad Armstrong, from Lisa: The painful, but Henry doesn't get that "punch", that "snap" that made Brad such a good character. Why this series has to be like this, and why do I like it so much.
Great video by the way, I love your analysis
I get that feeling. Back when I first got into this, I looked at fanimations (not a typo, by the way) and other such. So I never noticed the story was so messy.
I'm eight years in and trying to write my own version. And the more I look into it, especially through videos like these, I can't help but notice how messy the story is. I combat this by reworking them in ways I like. Charlie, for example.
Though she is a sweet-natured altruist with mild depression, Charlie sees the world through a child's eyes, oversimplifying issues that are not so simple. And her selflessness adds on to this. She cares so much that she'll make rash decisions just to help others, even if there is a huge margin for error. This changes later on. As Charlie's mindset matures, she steps back a bit and approaches the issue in new ways.
The other characters have undergone similar changes in my headcanon, even Henry. My version of him is more consistent with what he's presented to be. Not an asshole, just a bipolar depressed guy stricken with grief. He's been dead inside for so long that, in a weird way, he has become a puppet. That changes for him, too. He eventually breaks out of his cycle and actively works with his daughter to help the others. But there's a catch.
@@jeremiahthornton7938 Henry is consistently a asshole.
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And I acknowledge that. But it doesn't mean my version of him has to be, too. That's what my comment was about.
I think my problem with Henry in the regular series/games is they put the one from the novel trilogy rather than his own version. As badass as FNAF 6's ending is and as interesting as Lefty is bro made a cell for his daughter a really questionable design for her/hot charlie then burned her with her murderer and rival also didn't like how he only got one game he could've been in FNAF 3,4, or 5 since those games focused heavily on the Afton's and Fredbear's . I still don't think he's evil like Scraptrap but his methods are questonable.
Here’s my stance on the whole “Henry harmed his daughter by building Lefty” argument. In FNaF 5(Sister Location), a lot of the animatronics have questionable mechanisms designed for catching/luring/harming children. It would only make sense for him to have also been helping William, or, contrary to what many believe, he would have had to have been assisted by William in the making of the animatronics. I am more inclined to believe the latter. There’s evidence to support this. In the beginning of SL/FNaF5, William is being confronted about ‘his’ questionable design choices, and he deflects. Henry couldn’t have been alone in the making of the animatronics. The only thing that doesn’t make sense to me is why he wouldn’t intervene when it came to the more questionable decisions his business partner/coworker made in all of this.
I think the implication is supposed to be that the Sister location-branch of the company is completely seperate and only has indirect input from Henry at best. However, the question of why he never decided to investigate is really curious indeed, both from a moral and logical standpoint.
Even under this idea, it would still be in Henry's interest to avoid William doing anything sus like that because, er...the shared part of the company operates under the exact same IP, sharing characters. Even disregarding ethics of working with someone trying to assassinate kids, it would tank Fazbears and thus his own career horrendously if a big scandal linked to Funtime Freddy happened, wouldn't it? At best, it all seems really stupid and at worst incredibly neglectful.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT!!! I've wanted to do a video on this myself, but you beat me to it (tbh you did it better than I ever could). I'm glad I'm not alone on this!
Yeah, it's even said that, out of the two, Henry was actually the more unnerving one. The one wearing an obviously fake smile, who'd stay by the corners in his own world of machineries and schematics, as opposed to William, who was shown to be far more on the business side of things, appearing very outgoing and enthusiastic.
As for the doll being brought to life by his tears... well, it goes into the idea behind remnant and agony. Turns out, neither of them are related to souls at all. They're related to emotions and memories, with remnant being positive or at least neutral emotions, and agony being made of negative ones. When either of those is poured into a mechanism or at least something with an artificial intelligence of sorts (I think, it gets a bit complicated), it's given life.
With remnant, it's usually either a life based on the character that's injected with remnant, or the memory of the person related to that remnant. Like, positive memories of your child lead to creation of remnant that then takes the form and personality of your child. That's what the Crying Souls are. They're not ghosts, they're recreations of the memories of those children, accidentally made by the children themselves when they were killed, and by their parents and friends, I think. Or maybe they're actually souls, who grew so attached to these characters thanks to the remnant that they're literally bound to them, forced to possess them. This part here is not very clear, and mind you, none a this is already super clear in the first place.
However, in these cases, the remnant is often infected with agony, which I think doesn't really require any artificial intelligence to bring stuff to life, and instead can literally infect anything, often giving these things a twisted, distorted version of the personalities of the original characters, and when it comes to these "souls", making them feel angry and sad, or enhancing any negative emotions they already have. Beings brought to life with agony don't really think for themselves either. They may appear self-concious, but are actually just like rabid animals, seeking only to kill and consume.
Weird dude, dealt with grief badly. Hell, not much of a father. Definitely not a heroic figure, either.
Went to all the trouble to build a whole set of replacement goldfish, then offed himself.
As far as the game continuity version of him, well. The theory that he was convicted after being framed for the MCI at least explains his absence. Heck, explains his insane plan to wrap everything up in Pizzeria Simulator, too.
There was nothing else for it. He decided that it all needed to be destroyed, and did what he thought would accomplish that. When all hell has broken loose, you need to make hard decisions.
Doesn't make up for what he allowed to happen. Doesn't make up for what he did. Acting like he's a monster because he tried to put an end to all of the horrors, though, is short-sighted.
Finally got around to watching more of your history videos of fnaf 😅 love these so far!!
Henry is possibly the first and most obvious example of this series' problem of intentionally leaving parts of the story vague to later sell as lore in other merchandise. What was possibly just some guy that dies in a desk becomes the business partner that only exists in the game where he sets everyone on fire, to then become the tragic inventor that can only kill himself and set everyone on fire in 2030 -- otherwise it can't be the Afton show. As other people have said, you could write him to take the wrap or have the company legally declare him insane to lock away in a prison or mental institution for decades. They could have written him to slowly lose his humanity figuring out what Afton's up to and only coldly care about "fixing" the problem of all these living killer robots. But all they can think to do is make him Sad Man that builds Lefty, maybe makes robo daughter and then commit suicide by arson.
Henry...
Just missed.
No matter what it seems like Henry was really just in their own world.
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Now as for the Micheal point I don't know if that's exactly true Henry created the Pizzaria and I'm unsure how much of the gameplay of adding things to it is canon but like.
I think Henry had the idea of having someone else not Micheal be in there and escape.
But when he realized it was Micheal he ditched that.
My issue is still concept wise it still means he planned for someone else to be in this Pizzaria what would have happened if they ended up dying in the process?
And even if not what if it didn't work well?
In the end maybe there might be reason in the future of the game timelines to more-so justify their being gone but I still feel they could have done things better or maybe I'm overestimating their intelligence and mind.
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I also just feel really bad for Charlie and Baby honestly.
Got done dirty.
I agree with everything except for the part where Henry didn’t know who took the job. At the end, he said the job wasn’t intended for him, but by happenstance, someone connected to the tragedies took it. I believe this is enough to suggest that Henry knew who took the job. But yes. It is clear he didn’t talk to Michael about it. And that’s messed up he didn’t let anyone go on their own terms. He’s a father who still sees himself as a father and won’t let his children grow up or make their own choices. A lesser evil to Springtrap, but still bad
I feel like the idea of Henry is that Henry also went insane alongside William. While William went crazy over his work, Henry went crazy with justice on his mind. Willie wanted to help everyone live forever; Henry wanted to end the slaughter. William was on the attack with the Funtimes; Henry was on the defense with the Toys. William made it impossible for Michael to die; Henry helped Mike achieve rest. Both men abandoned their families for violent ends, disregarding the feelings of everyone around them. And both of them ended up dead due to their creations, Henry through deliberate defensive action, Will by accident during an offensive maneuver. While only Big W was the real pure evil out of the two, by the time this ordeal ended, the conflict had consumed them both. Anyway, Henry was just as insane as William, just for different reasons.
Henry didn’t create the Toy animatronics.
It’s not hard to make someone seem good when you compare them to William.
Henry: "I have a feeling you are...right where you want to be..."
Michael; "Tf do you mean?!💀"
Fr like "I have a feeling you are... " Bro...even if Michael is a walking skinsuit, Henry need to ask him first if Michael has any others important business before he get burn
Ok idk if the clock in the background is on porpoise, but it's really cool! It adds some nice atmosphere
Weird thing just happened. I'd been binging these FNAF discussion videos for a while and two channels really jumped out to me as my favorites, a channel with text to speech and this one. After like 15 videos I realized they were the same channel lmao. Well I'll subscribe then
About the fire against the remnant. You know, Freddy files Ultimate edition book actually complicate things a bit. It literally says Remnant=Agony.
In my eyes the remnant-agony can be only destroyed through something like the happiest day - but the fire might be just a symbol, but also the key factor that makes up the whole" You see - the fact that they never are getting destroyed through the burning has to have its own explanatiom. As William and the MCI kids - (imo there where just five kids as a whole) - souls in freddy, Bonnie, chica, foxy and puppet but also ennard and baby so Elizabeth are all staying after the burn out. In my opinion the Agony makes them unreachable but also chained until they will find their "happiest day"
Henry waited over 40 YEARS to do something (since fredbears was in 1983 and pizza sim takes place at the end of 2023 or early 2024) 40 long goddamn YEARS. He had all the time in the world to rectify the past. To stop his ex parter. But him sitting on the sidelines just let more people die
CLEAR HEADED! He reopened Freddie’s after a murder incident made animatronics that could end up killing a kid back at Fredbears, didn’t stop actin from making the fun times, and burned himself alive
It's a good take, a great take even, but ow my comfort character!
SAME GSHN
Remember when Henry said that he started to realize whats happening?
(Fnaf 6 the insanity ending)
I dont think he didnt care about possesed puppet/his daughter
I think he didnt know about it
It's not clear enough, but he seems from his wording that he was at least aware of what Will was doing.
My biggest issue with Henry is, if you just removed him from the story...you wouldn't lose much , one quotable speech? A few filler exposition pages from the books? The story of fnaf only really requires willaim to tell it , Henry's involvement is so weak that you could literally just place all his actions in the games as being done by fazebear entertainment trying to tie loose ends.
5:55 yet still tries to kill Jeremy
Jeremy committed massive tax fraud. He had it coming. XDD
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Its like how Henry assumes Micheal wants to die, and doesnt even care about the fact he had Micheal work his ass off. With his life handled by a thread having to deal with animatronics in multiple locations without any help.
Yeah henry was just another case of vengeance in the fnaf universe. A man blinded by revenge
out of all characters, Henry Emily gets the Rose Quartz syndrome, a backstory in reverse, a father viewed by many as a better co-worker, yet in the past, he acts very much like a stubborn afton, always busy, neglectful, etc.
Can we continue this backstory in reverse character arc trend?
A possibility for his inaction is his depression and grief, as from personal experience, that combo can leave a person unable to get any work done. So that, combined with him potentially being the one falsely convicted for the MCI, is probably what led to the inaction until several decades later. (With first the death of Charlie leading to the inaction up to and around the MCI, then him being falsely convicted and being in jail for probably 30+ years leading to no action until some point after FNaF 3)
And then regaining footing in society to get the budget to make all the stuff for the fake pizzeria, as well as materials to make Lefty, which would've taken even more time.
Now this doesn't excuse his methods or anything for once he DID start actually doing stuff, this is only to explain why it would've taken him so long.
You know. At this point I started to accept that every game since sister location is in the same timeline of the books. And that the og four are theirs very own timeline, separated from the garbage that came after
tbh I feel like that cassette tape at the end has in itself the reason why Henry assumes that Michael is ready to die: true, he wouldn't know that, but 1) it's a really reasonable assumption to make; 2) the cassette tape, being a recorded message (but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't make much of a difference to Henry's knowledge), has no way of knowing if Michael is still in the pizzeria or not; if he is, then Henry's assumption is correct (since Michael would have all the time to escape, if he wanted), but if he isn't, that's still fine, it just means that Henry's assumption was incorrect... but he didn't trap Michael in the pizzeria, so while incorrect it wouldn't be a harmful assumption like, say, if he closed everything and burnt it down with Michael still inside just because of a hunch.
In the end, Michael was stil there, so Henry's assumption while wild was correct, that's why I din't think it's right to be upset to him because of it