Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Apache Get Off My Lawn T-shirt: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/new-apache-get-off-my-lawn-p?product=46 Apache Get Off My Lawn Hoodie: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/apache-get-off-my-lawn-premi?product=227 I'm A Cat Person T-Shirt: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/i-m-a-cat-person-design-premiu?product=46 I'm A Cat Person HOODIE: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/listing/i-m-a-cat-person-f-14-tomcat?product=227 So I've recently gotten into the whole Viggen thing and its a pretty awesome aircraft and I've had a lot of fun messing around with it, let me know what other aircraft you'd like to see the Viggen go up against.
i told you a match with "less than perfect" aircraft (or realistic kinda old plane handling) make interesting video. the viggen has the power to retain a lot of energy that it lost... it can't sustain it for too long. as soon as speed drop it start to show weakness... but at High altitudine with decent speed at the start is a worthy opponent. viggen vs mig21 or a4 can show more interesting air combat concept. this planes really force to do energy management and not only "knife flight rate fight all the way".
Funnily enough the fighter version of Viggen used the same Central Air Data Computer as the F-14A/B, as well as an automatic digital flight control system developed by SAAB and Honeywell. There was a lot of technology transfer between US and Sweden during the cold war. The fighter version was developed and enhanced right up until it's retirement; acting as a test-bed for many technologies that made it into the JAS-39 Gripen, many of which are still classified so don't get your hopes up for an official JA-37D in DCS anytime soon. In another story: I was working on the JA-37 Viggen when I was 15 years old as part of some 9th grade school work experience thing in 1995. Even got to play with the old Viggen simulator. It was only greyscale and was based on 3 monitors 3 meters above the cockpit. There were some kind of concave mirroring system so the depth perception was amazing. The chair had inflatable bladders and the straps pulled **hard** to simulate G's. My scrawny little teenage body got squished into a meatball, but I managed to shot down a MIG before I got too nauseous and had to hit the "panic" button. I also remember slipping after testing the hydraulics, damaging the barrel of the 30mm cannon (just back from service) about to be reinstalled, and then weren't allowed in the locker room with all the pin-up posters anymore. Bummer! :)
@@USN1985dos : That was Olof Palme. He had a personal crusade against the US..Especially as you say when US forces were protecting that dictactor in South Vietnam. Rest were not at all that hostile against the US. We even got assurances from the US president to be included in the nuclear umbrella when we were on our way to get our own nukes. Thats why we had help building the Viggen program.
@@anthonynielsen3867 Most of the time with good situational awareness you can see the cues he is about to take the shot and then pull hard out of his HUD and the "rounds" will fall short. 😁
""I'm trying to stay above this guy, but my engine is compressor stalling... there's a Swedish guy named Svend in the back, who is absolutely kicking the shit out of my plane... you can hear him... he's trying to get the engine going again... BAM, BAM!!" - GS Comedic genius!! xD Jesus Christ, mate, you owe me a monitor wipe... and a half cup of icecream!!
@@GrowlingSidewinder Love u too... it's your delivery that's just so flat, so casual, like.. yeah, of course there's a guy in the back! Don't you have one, too? Yeah - mine's named Svend... yeah... Like a fucking coffee chat! :D Just lovely! Keep it up, man! =)
i really wish they would ad the actual Fighter version of the Viggen, the J37, it carried aim9L's and sparrows and an internal 30mm gun with 150 rounds
It was basically the AJ version of the viggen with the corresponding changes to make it a better dogfighter and interceptor, so despite being the Air-to-Air version the JA37 actually still had the capabilities of the older viggen models such as the capability to carry ASM, Bomb racks, etc etc
The AJS 37 suffer from AoA limitations due to the RM8A. The JA 37 with its RM8B was quite a bit better in this regard. The JA 37 also had a better FCS and a much superior HUD. The integrated 30mm Orleikon gun was excellent. The PS46 radar and the FCS could work in conjuntion to aim the gun and kill a target several kilometers away.
The SA (Siktes Automat) Automatic aiming that the JA 37 got in 1992 for the KCA Oerlikon would be interesting to see in DCS. It eliminated 90% of the error in 1 second and would also fire the gun when it had the best chance to hit, making it useful up to 2km. The pilot only needed to roll the plane, the auto aim took care of the rest. This is probably why the ammo had no tracers.
IRL Viggen pilots managed to intercept and get a lock on the SR-71. Not many aircraft can boast of that. Also Viggens escorted an SR-71 with an engine blowout through the Baltic sea. It would be interesting to see a JA 37 Viggen which was the air superiority variant.
IRL viggen pilots also knew that the SR 71 would be flying in a narrow corridor in international airspace, near Sweden ie: on a known vector and time frame, on a '71 that was NOT in a high threat environment. (It wasn't being evasive - and was not really laying into those J58s as hard as it could've been.) So while yes, that feat was impressive - its not quite the same as doing a cold simulated intercept vs an SR71 that dosen't want to be intercepted. And yeah... the Viggen will always have a warm "little friends" spot in the USAF's heart for the escort job they pulled for that crippled blackbird incident. The 4 swedish pilots involved were awarded the USAF air medal for bravery many years later.
@@stinkyfungus All false! The SR-71 and Viggen's were tracked at a closing speed of Mach 5 so the J58 were pushing to maximum speed. Also, the SR-71 pilots tried in vain to avoid the Viggens but failed, they used electronic counter measures against the Viggens but the Swedish pilots learnt how to avoid them. And the SR-71's WERE operating in a high threat environment, it was the height of the cold war. Remember the SR-71 was a spy plane....
@@EndTimeDreams Uh, no your statement is completely false. The top speeds of neither of these planes was anywhere near Mach 5. Viggens couldn't possibly hope to catch up to an SR-71, the most they could do was climb at a specific point along the blackbirds known programmed flight path and catch a brief radar lock and some handheld photos before they lost sight of it. The data link capabilities of the Viggen at the time were what was most impressive about the intercepts. The only time Viggens caught up and flew with a blackbird was when one of its engines blew up and they did a friendly escort for it.
@@ltcuddles685 mate, closing speed means the rate at which they were closing in on eachother, the viggen from infront of the sr71, presumably the 71 going a bit over mach3 and the viggen a bit under mach 2
Everything I read about the Viggen was that it was built to gain altitude fast, use its powerful radar to lock on a target, shoot then scoot. It wasn't built as a close combat dogfighter.
This is the AJ-37 strike fighter variant it isn't designed with air to air in mind per se. "Several distinct variants of the Viggen were produced to perform the roles of strike fighter (AJ 37), aerial reconnaissance (SF 37), maritime patrol aircraft (SH 37) and a two-seat trainer (SK 37). In the late 1970s, the all-weather fighter-interceptor aircraft JA 37 variant was introduced."
Great video - one thing I really liked about this was that you changed planes half way though. I really think it helps give a picture whether the outcome of the fight is because of differences in the plane or differences because you are the better pilot.
just realize that this is not always going to be possible due to the other guy not owning the other plane or maybe he isn't competent in it to put up a good fight, I guess where it is possible I will try to do it but just know if I don't its probably that reason.
You can make great content out of anything! Thanks for showing us a bit of what the Viggen can (and can not) do. I also really appreciated seeing a bit of the Tacview again, although I kinda wish you included the spin rate of that viggen you shot down (and yes, I know you would have a good reason for not showing it, since you always show the interesting bits); I can just imagine, it must have been like a negative G centrifuge in that thing! With your eyes redding out, feeling your blood vessels get streched to the max, then bursting and oozing, damn, what a way to go...
Should be the JA-37... I want to see that famous Orlikon KCA in action!... Supposedly has more kinetic energy than the the A-10s GAU and as much destructive energy as a sidewinder?!
Underrated comment. Next time, please sit in the front gear well and push that weight on wheel button so GS can do that "I'll hit the brakes and he'll fly right by" sh!t with the reverser :D
Yo GS, Svend banging on your plane had me cracking. Really digging the aircraft swaps to give both points of views. Keep it up. Have a pleasant day. Cheers
You almost had him twice in the Viggen but he was just a tad too slippery lol You pulled some nice jinks as well though. What I'm saying is I really like the way you, Sugma, deke! hahaha :P
If you try to stay below 24 AOA (depending on alt) your engine won't commit suicide. If it dies, go idle throttle, then move it back up and it will reignite. But you're doing a pretty good job.
@@naveednawwaf War Thunder is not a simulator though so it doesnt matter much whether it is F14 or an alien spacecraft, it will be fantasy regardless to be fair.
In a compressor stall the compressor portion of the engine is pushing more air into the engine then it can handle. Modern jet engines have a device called a bleed valve that open to allow the excess air to be dumped overboard. The only option to stop the compressor stall is to reduce engine power. In the real world a continuous compressor stall will damage the engine i.e. bend the compressor blades or the stator blades.
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The finally tally was Viggen 2, Tomcat 1. So the Viggen was actually more than a 'bit' successful, it won best 2 out of 3. Speaking of Saab, I'd love to see the Draken in this game. Talk about a revolutionary, ahead of its time design, th Draken was definitely that.
@@mitchconner403 yea just yesterday I was launching a AIM-7E-2 in my F-4E at an enemy J-37C (that was 6km away) at around 632 knots at about 7° AoA and I could you not... the sparrow some how lost all momentum and cut my own tail off like wtf?
Man i wish there was footage from the Viggen's cockpit as it spun itself to shreds in round 3.. we just need it! Also, "Not the face, not the face, not the fa-"
Depends on what Viggen you take. The AJ or JA ;) The AJ was made primarily for ground attack and hunting planes secondarily. The JA was oposite, Air-targets first, ground secondly :) they also have small diffrences and one is actually longer than the other one!
In 1980's airplane books, writers would say that the Viggen had turn on a par with the F-16. I guess that's only true for like 2 turns, max! EDIT: Considering it's a 60's design, it's pretty impressive that it can turn with an F-14 for a couple of turns.
I think the Viggen might have been quite a real world killer back in the day because not only did it have pretty good to great performance compared to its contemporaries but it had an apparently a legitimately good datalink all the way back in the mid 80's, roughly 10 years ahead of pretty much anyone else. Ground radars sent data to Viggens and it's on board computer could self calculate intercept paths and it could also link its radar info to 4 other fighters. I think this is one of the main reasons it has the only U.S. verified successful SR-71 intercepts. If you were fighting over Sweden I think there is a very strong argument that the air intercept version of the Viggen was the best fighter in the world for a time.
After “Good Jeff! (My name is Jeff 🐵)”, “Thrust Vectoring Bullshit” and “Harrier Garbage”, presenting to you, the Swedish guy that sits in the engine bay of a Vigen, trying to push start the stalled engine by kicking the turbine 🧑🔧🩴🩴🩴
That Round 2 just got my Swedish Viking horns growing out! then again Viking horns are a myth...But so is this matchup!! Nice fight PS. Never underestimate an angry Sven
Can we get an instant replay of the Viggen getting hit by your gun and spinning out of control until it breaks apart? Was hoping to see that again close up, rather than only from a distance through your F-14's canopy. I've never seen an aircraft in DCS roll that fast before, controlled or uncontrolled.
The main differences for this kind of fight are going to be the internal gun (so no need to carry heavy and draggy external gun pods) and the much improved intakes, so much less compressor stalling in high AoO, low speed flight.
The Viggen should not go above AOA 15 degrees to avoid compressor stall. This was the main tactical goal in dogfighting according to Viggen JA37 pilots. So in battle they had on eye on AOA and one one the enemy.
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So I've recently gotten into the whole Viggen thing and its a pretty awesome aircraft and I've had a lot of fun messing around with it, let me know what other aircraft you'd like to see the Viggen go up against.
i told you a match with "less than perfect" aircraft (or realistic kinda old plane handling) make interesting video. the viggen has the power to retain a lot of energy that it lost... it can't sustain it for too long. as soon as speed drop it start to show weakness... but at High altitudine with decent speed at the start is a worthy opponent. viggen vs mig21 or a4 can show more interesting air combat concept. this planes really force to do energy management and not only "knife flight rate fight all the way".
IN THE FACE !
@@AaaBbb-ff1pn Sugma deke good tho
And try that with a swarm of Saab Drakens around. :) Nice video! :)
Viggen is an low level dog fighter same as Gripen. there is one leaked video out on yt think it caled 2vs2 dogfight viggen
Nice. Battle of the compressor stalls.
Looool, I haven't seen video yet, but I believe this is the best comment here!
Who will win??
Corkscrew Cat
Or...
*CLANG. CLANG*
Like in the movie up when the old men are fighting and they are so old that their swings break their backs when they try to kill each other.
Anyway to mitigate?
No bueno
Funnily enough the fighter version of Viggen used the same Central Air Data Computer as the F-14A/B, as well as an automatic digital flight control system developed by SAAB and Honeywell. There was a lot of technology transfer between US and Sweden during the cold war. The fighter version was developed and enhanced right up until it's retirement; acting as a test-bed for many technologies that made it into the JAS-39 Gripen, many of which are still classified so don't get your hopes up for an official JA-37D in DCS anytime soon.
In another story: I was working on the JA-37 Viggen when I was 15 years old as part of some 9th grade school work experience thing in 1995. Even got to play with the old Viggen simulator. It was only greyscale and was based on 3 monitors 3 meters above the cockpit. There were some kind of concave mirroring system so the depth perception was amazing. The chair had inflatable bladders and the straps pulled **hard** to simulate G's. My scrawny little teenage body got squished into a meatball, but I managed to shot down a MIG before I got too nauseous and had to hit the "panic" button. I also remember slipping after testing the hydraulics, damaging the barrel of the 30mm cannon (just back from service) about to be reinstalled, and then weren't allowed in the locker room with all the pin-up posters anymore. Bummer! :)
I thought Sweden was decidedly anti-American during the Cold War. One PM famously compared the US in Vietnam to Nazis even.
@@USN1985dos : That was Olof Palme. He had a personal crusade against the US..Especially as you say when US forces were protecting that dictactor in South Vietnam.
Rest were not at all that hostile against the US. We even got assurances from the US president to be included in the nuclear umbrella when we were on our way to get our own nukes. Thats why we had help building the Viggen program.
the CD-107 is not the same as the one on the f14a/b, it was designed by saab but used many american components
“not the face not the face *NOT THE FACE* ”
“Alright, he shot me in the face”
thats what she said
Its "Goliad" all over again!.
@@anthonynielsen3867 Most of the time with good situational awareness you can see the cues he is about to take the shot and then pull hard out of his HUD and the "rounds" will fall short. 😁
This NEEDS to be in the next "hilarious moments" compilation XD
.."Not the FACE!!"
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""I'm trying to stay above this guy, but my engine is compressor stalling... there's a Swedish guy named Svend in the back, who is absolutely kicking the shit out of my plane... you can hear him... he's trying to get the engine going again... BAM, BAM!!" - GS Comedic genius!! xD
Jesus Christ, mate, you owe me a monitor wipe... and a half cup of icecream!!
Love u buddy lol
@@GrowlingSidewinder Love u too... it's your delivery that's just so flat, so casual, like.. yeah, of course there's a guy in the back! Don't you have one, too? Yeah - mine's named Svend... yeah...
Like a fucking coffee chat! :D
Just lovely! Keep it up, man! =)
The tomcat pooted a little smoke too right before that. Did it compressor stall?
I was expecting the skyrim: "hey you, you're finally awake"
😂😂😂😂
i really wish they would ad the actual Fighter version of the Viggen, the J37, it carried aim9L's and sparrows and an internal 30mm gun with 150 rounds
Later JA-37D´s even had 4*RB99´s (Amraams) and countermeasures
An even stronger engine as well..
The JA37 beecause the fighter had rocketpods aswell for ground attack
It was basically the AJ version of the viggen with the corresponding changes to make it a better dogfighter and interceptor, so despite being the Air-to-Air version the JA37 actually still had the capabilities of the older viggen models such as the capability to carry ASM, Bomb racks, etc etc
And the Oerlikon cannon mounted on the viggen shoot some real scary 30mms shell much bigger than the shell used un the aden/defa for example
The AJS 37 suffer from AoA limitations due to the RM8A. The JA 37 with its RM8B was quite a bit better in this regard. The JA 37 also had a better FCS and a much superior HUD. The integrated 30mm Orleikon gun was excellent. The PS46 radar and the FCS could work in conjuntion to aim the gun and kill a target several kilometers away.
The SA (Siktes Automat) Automatic aiming that the JA 37 got in 1992 for the KCA Oerlikon would be interesting to see in DCS. It eliminated 90% of the error in 1 second and would also fire the gun when it had the best chance to hit, making it useful up to 2km.
The pilot only needed to roll the plane, the auto aim took care of the rest. This is probably why the ammo had no tracers.
SA means Styrautomat not siktesautomat
Swen vs Jester, now this is an Epic battle 😂😂😂😂
@Evan Brooks the need to eject
Sven*
I think sven was motivating the engine somehow back there🤣
IRL Viggen pilots managed to intercept and get a lock on the SR-71. Not many aircraft can boast of that. Also Viggens escorted an SR-71 with an engine blowout through the Baltic sea.
It would be interesting to see a JA 37 Viggen which was the air superiority variant.
I would LOVE an air superiority viggen
IRL viggen pilots also knew that the SR 71 would be flying in a narrow corridor in international airspace, near Sweden ie: on a known vector and time frame, on a '71 that was NOT in a high threat environment. (It wasn't being evasive - and was not really laying into those J58s as hard as it could've been.)
So while yes, that feat was impressive - its not quite the same as doing a cold simulated intercept vs an SR71 that dosen't want to be intercepted.
And yeah... the Viggen will always have a warm "little friends" spot in the USAF's heart for the escort job they pulled for that crippled blackbird incident.
The 4 swedish pilots involved were awarded the USAF air medal for bravery many years later.
@@stinkyfungus
All false! The SR-71 and Viggen's were tracked at a closing speed of Mach 5 so the J58 were pushing to maximum speed.
Also, the SR-71 pilots tried in vain to avoid the Viggens but failed, they used electronic counter measures against the Viggens but the Swedish pilots learnt how to avoid them.
And the SR-71's WERE operating in a high threat environment, it was the height of the cold war. Remember the SR-71 was a spy plane....
@@EndTimeDreams Uh, no your statement is completely false.
The top speeds of neither of these planes was anywhere near Mach 5.
Viggens couldn't possibly hope to catch up to an SR-71, the most they could do was climb at a specific point along the blackbirds known programmed flight path and catch a brief radar lock and some handheld photos before they lost sight of it.
The data link capabilities of the Viggen at the time were what was most impressive about the intercepts.
The only time Viggens caught up and flew with a blackbird was when one of its engines blew up and they did a friendly escort for it.
@@ltcuddles685 mate, closing speed means the rate at which they were closing in on eachother, the viggen from infront of the sr71, presumably the 71 going a bit over mach3 and the viggen a bit under mach 2
Everything I read about the Viggen was that it was built to gain altitude fast, use its powerful radar to lock on a target, shoot then scoot. It wasn't built as a close combat dogfighter.
This is the AJ-37 strike fighter variant it isn't designed with air to air in mind per se.
"Several distinct variants of the Viggen were produced to perform the roles of strike fighter (AJ 37), aerial reconnaissance (SF 37), maritime patrol aircraft (SH 37) and a two-seat trainer (SK 37). In the late 1970s, the all-weather fighter-interceptor aircraft JA 37 variant was introduced."
Great video - one thing I really liked about this was that you changed planes half way though. I really think it helps give a picture whether the outcome of the fight is because of differences in the plane or differences because you are the better pilot.
just realize that this is not always going to be possible due to the other guy not owning the other plane or maybe he isn't competent in it to put up a good fight, I guess where it is possible I will try to do it but just know if I don't its probably that reason.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks for the explanation and understood!
"Not in the face not in the face" - "Alright, he shot in my face"
Sidewinder: "Not the face!"
F-14: "Exclusively the face!"
You can make great content out of anything! Thanks for showing us a bit of what the Viggen can (and can not) do.
I also really appreciated seeing a bit of the Tacview again, although I kinda wish you included the spin rate of that viggen you shot down (and yes, I know you would have a good reason for not showing it, since you always show the interesting bits); I can just imagine, it must have been like a negative G centrifuge in that thing!
With your eyes redding out, feeling your blood vessels get streched to the max, then bursting and oozing, damn, what a way to go...
that Sven joke made me laugh, a swedish approved joke GS!
"The head on shots are just luck." Except for me, I die every time.
1:45 - You should have told him tomorrow is picture day. 🤣
*Not in the face not in the face not in the face* was my favourite part
"If I hit the thrust reverser, he'll fly right by".
We need to find a way to place Sven in the front gear well instead of the engine bay so he can keep that WOW switch pressed...
I used to be a rate fighter like you, but then I took a compressor stall to the knee.
F15 vs MIRAGE soon? I would enjoy that.Keep up the great work
Just proves that it isn't always just the plane. The pilot does make a big difference. Good stuff GS!
Sven: Oh, I was taking a coffee break on the ground. Ole was on engine pounding duty today.
Should be the JA-37...
I want to see that famous Orlikon KCA in action!...
Supposedly has more kinetic energy than the the A-10s GAU and as much destructive energy as a sidewinder?!
Best Places to aim at in DCS:
1) Engine
2) Wing
3) Face
Love the subtitles. "We're in the F14 and we're gonna to be taking on a vegan"
I did my best back there!
Thanks for the effort buddy next time we gotta get you a wrench to hit the engine with it might just do the trick
Underrated comment.
Next time, please sit in the front gear well and push that weight on wheel button so GS can do that "I'll hit the brakes and he'll fly right by" sh!t with the reverser :D
thank you for showing that matchup, didnt realy belive you would do it
i wish there was the ja-37 its got some more power and turning capabilities i would like to see it in game
I like how you almost always upload with in a few minutes of when I have lunch at school
Yo GS, Svend banging on your plane had me cracking. Really digging the aircraft swaps to give both points of views. Keep it up. Have a pleasant day. Cheers
to me the F-14 is most beautiful war machine ever built!
A hard working day for Sven.
You almost had him twice in the Viggen but he was just a tad too slippery lol You pulled some nice jinks as well though. What I'm saying is I really like the way you, Sugma, deke! hahaha :P
If you try to stay below 24 AOA (depending on alt) your engine won't commit suicide. If it dies, go idle throttle, then move it back up and it will reignite. But you're doing a pretty good job.
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At the sound of the bell, it would be... 1:46 FACESHOOTING O'CLOCK! 😂
Would be reallly nice to se the JA37 in DCS. With a even bigger engine and no comressor stalls.
Yeah, or maybe the F-14 in War Thunder
@@naveednawwaf War Thunder is not a simulator though so it doesnt matter much whether it is F14 or an alien spacecraft, it will be fantasy regardless to be fair.
@@SFDPSFDP That's true. But, I think f-14 is coming since the JA 37 came to WT
@@SFDPSFDP Still way more realistic than any other 'game' that has planes on the market, and the models usually look really nice.
I really want the JA37, the interceptor/fighter variant of the viggen in dcs.
Ah yes, quality content
Question: what is a compressor stall? how does it happen? And how to prevent it?
In a compressor stall the compressor portion of the engine is pushing more air into the engine then it can handle. Modern jet engines have a device called a bleed valve that open to allow the excess air to be dumped overboard. The only option to stop the compressor stall is to reduce engine power. In the real world a continuous compressor stall will damage the engine i.e. bend the compressor blades or the stator blades.
Hope you doing well; Thanks for the video!
Another one for "Moments of Death" lol The compressor stalls are a nice touch.
1:48
I heard the 20mm bullet go right through your flesh and pop you like a balloon. . . .WOW
I will never get over how beautiful the F14 is
Great video as always. Inspired me to finally buy some merch!
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this really aligns with my warthunder experience, the viggen will fuck you up in the first turn but after that it's food.
Oh, the crunching sound of bullets getting logged into your face right in the morning.
Trunk Monkey Sven just wants you to respect his plane, man!
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Imagine JA-37 Viggen with auto-aim ;)
The finally tally was Viggen 2, Tomcat 1. So the Viggen was actually more than a 'bit' successful, it won best 2 out of 3.
Speaking of Saab, I'd love to see the Draken in this game. Talk about a revolutionary, ahead of its time design, th Draken was definitely that.
What are you talking about? The Viggen lost two of those.
This will be a guide for war thunder players in a few months
LOL
Hopefully War Thunder will fix its gamebreaking bugs by then
@@mitchconner403 yea just yesterday I was launching a AIM-7E-2 in my F-4E at an enemy J-37C (that was 6km away) at around 632 knots at about 7° AoA and I could you not... the sparrow some how lost all momentum and cut my own tail off like wtf?
@@Viviana088 sounds like desync
Fun fact: The Viggen has more or less the same flight computer as the F-14
We're back to being dudes not lady's. We've got an upgrade
Ah yes, the Arthur (The Tick cartoon) school of battlecries.
"Not in the face! Not in the face!"
Man i wish there was footage from the Viggen's cockpit as it spun itself to shreds in round 3.. we just need it!
Also, "Not the face, not the face, not the fa-"
If you enjoy being the underdog, how about flying the Yak-38, if DCS has it? Fun videos; I enjoy these.
Thats an absolutely moment.
Depends on what Viggen you take. The AJ or JA ;)
The AJ was made primarily for ground attack and hunting planes secondarily.
The JA was oposite, Air-targets first, ground secondly :)
they also have small diffrences and one is actually longer than the other one!
Nice to see you keep Sven busy kicking the engine. He will grow up to be Bigfoot.
Tomcat: carves Viggen like a Turkey
Kyle: OH MY GOD! They killed Kenny!
I know the Swedish engine was a revolutions when it came out. Quite powerfully it was them who invented the valve in the afterburner.
The first round made me laugh esp when the tomcat hit you in the face lol
In 1980's airplane books, writers would say that the Viggen had turn on a par with the F-16. I guess that's only true for like 2 turns, max! EDIT: Considering it's a 60's design, it's pretty impressive that it can turn with an F-14 for a couple of turns.
Worth noting this is the ground attack variant and has gunpods, but yeah, more of a F-4, MiG-23 equivalent.
It showed that the Delta/Canard layout had promise.
@@miquelescribanoivars5049 I'd bet a small amount that the air superiority Viggen could spank the Mig-23 and the F-4 in a dogfight!
I think the Viggen might have been quite a real world killer back in the day because not only did it have pretty good to great performance compared to its contemporaries but it had an apparently a legitimately good datalink all the way back in the mid 80's, roughly 10 years ahead of pretty much anyone else. Ground radars sent data to Viggens and it's on board computer could self calculate intercept paths and it could also link its radar info to 4 other fighters. I think this is one of the main reasons it has the only U.S. verified successful SR-71 intercepts. If you were fighting over Sweden I think there is a very strong argument that the air intercept version of the Viggen was the best fighter in the world for a time.
After “Good Jeff! (My name is Jeff 🐵)”, “Thrust Vectoring Bullshit” and “Harrier Garbage”, presenting to you, the Swedish guy that sits in the engine bay of a Vigen, trying to push start the stalled engine by kicking the turbine 🧑🔧🩴🩴🩴
alternative title: compressor stall battle
"WHERE MOSQUITO!" I asked calmly
That Round 2 just got my Swedish Viking horns growing out! then again Viking horns are a myth...But so is this matchup!!
Nice fight
PS. Never underestimate an angry Sven
"Not the face! Not the face! Not the fac...."🤣🤣
I dunno. Something about GS nonchalantly blowing off the engine coughing its lungs out reminds me of that
"This is fine." meme
Kind wish there was close up footage of that spin
Or at least a Tacview
Those were the gun pods.. hahahahahaahaha
Is that a new editing style? I like it! Or maybe I'm just imagining things...
"Not in the face"
- GS 2021
I knew you would come around one day to the Viggen #ViggangForLife
“Not the face, not the face!”
Piss on you: I’m with Mel Brooks!
Yap! I am hooked on this feeling!
Viggen should turn tighter
I would love to see the replay of the Viggen spinning itself apart in the 3rd fight.
Can we get an instant replay of the Viggen getting hit by your gun and spinning out of control until it breaks apart? Was hoping to see that again close up, rather than only from a distance through your F-14's canopy. I've never seen an aircraft in DCS roll that fast before, controlled or uncontrolled.
Also, when's the next kill compilation coming? Loved those two vids!
1:47 "Not the face not the face not the fa-"
Sweden cant compete with a superpower but we have made some pretty cool airplanes.
It's almost as if he heard you and shot the face anyways...🤣🤣
01:16
Compressor stall on a Viggen... who could have predicted that...
Did they fix that in IRL for the fighter variant?
hey sidewinder ive gotta give you a hug
It's more about the pilot than the aircraft.
If you compresor stall the viggen, kill the throttle for 1 sec and put it to max after that. Should fix the stall most of the time!
These Swedish fighters are so bizarre-looking
"not in the face" that's what she said
A Panavia Tornado F3 would be interesting, obviously be a fox 3 or 2 situation as it was most definitely not a digfigter! Or maybe an EEL?
Oboy i havent seen any other climbe with the Tomcat like that. And finaly the Viggen. 👍
imagine how the fighter varient would perform with its higher service ceiling. thatd be a fun battle to watch
The main differences for this kind of fight are going to be the internal gun (so no need to carry heavy and draggy external gun pods) and the much improved intakes, so much less compressor stalling in high AoO, low speed flight.
6:50 "Hey, Viggen! Wanna do a g-force test?!"
"A g-force wha-AAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAHAAH"
The Viggen should not go above AOA 15 degrees to avoid compressor stall. This was the main tactical goal in dogfighting according to Viggen JA37 pilots. So in battle they had on eye on AOA and one one the enemy.
That’s great but if I need to keep my lift vector on my bandit and I’m going to pull more then 15 AoA If I can’t do that I’m going to die.
Nice wet sound effect on the first shoot-down
Not in the face, not in the face!!!
In the face.
Immediate video like given.
Kick that engine Swen! LMAO