Musical Clock from 1750 and Porter Music Box from 1978
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- In this Episode of Music Machine Mondays we are featuring two mechanical masterpieces, The Allin Walker Musical Clock from 1750 and the Porter Music Box from 1978.
I was building the first Marble Machine at the Speelklok Museum that week when we filmed this and you can kind of see that it took its toll on me on the five million bags under my eyes, when i saw how tired i look i remembered the fight with getting the MM1 ready for demonstration in Utrecht... We will put up a video later cover that process, in the end of the Music Machine Monday series. I am so glad i never have to build up MM1 again! MMX, you are the savior of my future night sleep, thank you in advance. :)
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This is how you make Mondays better!
or Tuesdays!
SonicPL1997 seriously. Old musical machines are the best thing to look forward to
And fridays a miracle
Always like it when Lois is the one showing the instruments 😗
Adorable
Man, you had one music clock back in the XVIII century and you were the king of the neighborhood
Antique Chick Magnet and pussy slayer
Other way round: To have a music clock you had to already be a king of a neighbourhood.
Lois Tonen's soothing asmr voice is so calming and relaxing.
Mechanically generated music and the pretty girl from the speelklok museum. Best Mondays ever.
It's so nice to watch beautiful people, discuss beautiful mechanisms with passion and reverence. Thanks for this video.
To explain the "richer sound by detuning" thing a bit more: an orchestra seldom uses like two violins playing the same thing, as a human ear can hear the players' errors and small differences of pitch better. Three or more is good, as the errors fade to the main sound. The effect of detuning can nowadays be heard also in pianos: all but the lowest keys are tripled for the same hammer. Sometimes in old pianos you can hear the sound wobbling a bit with great vibrato, as most instruments detune over time.
Just my two cents as a musician.
Heikki Miinalainen Haha, "cents"!
(a cent in music is 1/100 of a semitone)
Oh, didn't event think about that! Maybe that explains why I'm a violinist, always using 442 tuning :D
But in a well tuned instrument it still is a zero-sum game of cents.
I only know 50 Cent.
CrazyCow that's about all his vocal range. Also, he's cheap.
The detuning is to produce a slight "vibrato" effect, the rate or frequency of which is the difference between the frequencies produced. Used in pipe organs for Celeste ranks where a pair of virtually identical pipe ranks sound together, with one tuned slightly high - giving a subtle pleasing wavering - much less than an actual Tremolo which is also usually available by having the wind pressure fluctuate at a regular frequency. (Tremolo is essentially a loudness fluctuation, whereas Vibrato is a frequency wavering effect, although they can overlap to a degree.)
P.S. Heikki - wouldn't you be tuning A to 442, not D! 😀
I am so glad you documented your journey through this museum. Many of us will never be able to visit in person, but thanks to you we can go anytime now! Thanks for sharing the magic!
Thank you very much for the video s. My wife and I visited the museum two weeks ago just to see your marble machine. The museum was amazing. Again thank you. Utrecht is such nice city.
Joost and Lois together in the same video, yay. Very attractive individuals, who certainly have a passion for music and the machines their museum exhibits. I love hearing from them!
Christian Hendrickson,
same
In case it was not yet mentioned in one of the 404 other comments: The Allemande ("composer unknown") is the one in Campra's "Ballet des fragments" (1702). It is also found in Playford's "Dancing Master" (ed. 1710 - 1728) under the title of "Mourning in Fashion".
I watched this twice, once with the sound on to hear the machines and once with the sound off so I could just watch Lois.
Everyone in the museam wears gloves and you come along and just touch everything
EpreTroll it really is driving me crazy. It’s so disrespectful
If it was that important to them they would have handed him gloves too.
Filip Wahlberg
Exactly
what is the name of the museam?
Speelklok Museum, Utrecht, Netherlands. (It's in the description.)
Jesus the bell at 2:35 sounds *exactly* like my doorbell. It's 10 PM and it scared the hell out of me.
You should ask the museum lady on a date 👌
Yeah, but can it play "Faded"?...
I know, I know, bad joke.
Анатолий Бронштейн lolol when i heard alan walker in the vid i was confused for a second
yeah but can it play cysis :P
Анатолий Бронштейн Yeah,but can It play Rick roll?
If only the clock could Sing Me To Sleep...
Yeah I thought of that Alan Walker as well because of the nearly identical name. XD
" . . & the more advanced drrrring thing . . ." Priceless; thanks Martin, treble points for that one : )
I really enjoy looking at blue eyed girl from museum, and that unspoken building of relationship with Martin. So cute :3
Agreed.
Could it be?.....
I too think she likes Martin XD
She’s a real eye catcher
I love Mondays with Wintergaten💖😽
This series is just the best. It makes me so happy. Thanks for the great content!
YESSS! I just started eating chicken wings and chilling with Chromecast. Perfect timing.
Henry Lehtovirta so lucky!
That's why these centuries were the most beautiful centuries in humankind history. Classical music was in every man's heart as it is nowadays. Thank you very much for these videos!
Omg, the percise math of the Porter machine just blew my mind,, the radius, the dented place, like how could it be done exaclly like the plan,, fantastic
You are being excited, every time you saw a two-hammer XD
Did anyone else notice the fact that Lois working at the Speelklok museum might be a case of nominative determinism? Her surname is Tonen. And that could be translated as tones (plural of tone or toon in Dutch) and also show or display ( as a verb). There is plenty of work showing tones for Lois there!
(My dad is Dutch and I last spoke Dutch with any skill at least 45 years ago so I am relying on Google Translate)
The beauty of many devices lies within all the knowledge, thoughts, ideas and work that has gone into it. With old clocks you can see the complexity and that is what makes them beautiful (at least for me). Today we have incredibly more complex devices but they can't be watched working with the bare eye. You would need test equipment that costs more than a house. Maybe that is why I'm also subscribed to channels where people look at things with electron microscopes or just disassemble stuff and explain it. ;)
Wonderful! the girl is so beautiful and very knowledgeable👏👏👏
storing multiple patterns in the same cylinder without them interfering one another, is what drives the Curta mechanical calculator.
look it up for some insight on how to do complex clockwork in a reduced space.
Mondays are awesome thanks to you, I love this series!
I would love to have the first model shown in this video in my house. That clock looks so beautiful!
_Taking a look at the comments, at this point, Martin has been shipped with pretty much everyone, even with his music boxes by someone in the world, hahaha_
I enjoy your Monday series
"Probably isn't a D flat, I think it's just a... a D..."
"Yeah"
"Yeah..."
amazing as always
Great way to start my Monday morning! Thanks
Lois wears the shit out if those gloves
Benjamin Dragon So there's a hand fetiche-thing too..
Guille T. The internet has everything
Dude it never ceases to amaze/disgust me what you can find after a few minutes on google. People are freaking weird, like seriously, you name it and someone gets off to it.
Matthew Smith I'll never forget the first time I watched Barbarella about 20-odd years ago, and was amazed to discover some of my own perversions. :-D Not sure why you'd find other people's sexual proclivities disgusting though, since we all have them. ..Although I hasten to add that I'm not into scatology or watersports!
Анатолий Бронштейн Yes, Rule 34 always applies!
I now have something to loom forward to on mondays and wednesdays
Martin & Lois look so cute together!. I ship.
She is quite attractive.
Hell yeah, I'd fly to Utrecht just to hang out with Lois. He's a lucky guy.
Arslan Ali Naqvi There's is a borderline cult forming on the channel about people shipping them together.....I like it. I ship it, 10/10 IGN
yall these are real live human beings with lives of their own. Don't 'ship' them, that's creepy, they're not your playthings. You can think they look cute together all you want, but you'd best not get pushy about it. Many friendships have been horribly strained because of fans insisting they should get together for their 'ship'. Just... stick to shipping fictional characters, dont be disrespectful.
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Lovely sounding clock, such a marvel of engineering, true skill, beauty & sound
Radetzky March. Didn't know the title but recognized it from its repeated use in the TV series "The Prisoner".
I love this series.
If I didn't know it was a Porter I'd mistake it for a Polyphon like the one an Australian friend had. His was built in 1900 and, I think, used 13 or 15-inch discs. Love it.
I've seen a Porter Music box play. The Hallmark store, in the town that I live in, use to have one. I've always wanted one .
Its very interesting to thing that what we are listening to is exactly the same sound as someone would have heard back in 1750. Its just as amazing today as it was back then.
I've always loved the Porter Music Box. It has an amazing quality sound.
Hurrah! What a beautiful clock and how pleasant are the melodies! The melody played by these types of clocks and music-boxes are really amazing and enjoyable! Nowadays the melodies played by these types of clocks and music-boxes are recorded and programmed in electronic circuit board of sound chips connected to speaker and installed in some quartz clocks so that they electronically imitates the same. But they can't beat these types of real chiming clocks and music-boxes.
Absolutely beautiful ..💖and so informative thank you X
I don't know if it's the speakers on my computer, but the problem with the clock seems to be that the bells are so full of overtones that 'melody' becomes notional. Some bells are higher, some lower, but that's about it, for pitch.
Same here. You could barely make out the music.
It's clearly one of the first in it's kind before they made all sorts of adjustmenets to improve the sound quality.
Lots of the chimes are really inharmonic so it's hard to get a fix on the fundamental, and this differs for higher and lower pitches in a disorganized way too. There's also no muting, so even fast notes have a long ringtime and overlap too much.
+WS Yes, you're right, the bells need muting. When vibrating tines are used the notes have little sustain.
I had trouble hearing the melody too. (The first one, Allemande) I just chalked it up to getting old. Still liked the video.
It sounded better for me to turn down the volume by half, but I had the same problem.
I am so amused by these.
Love your videos
Please continue this series. ❤ we love it all. 😅
You and Lois would make a good couple. There is a lot of common interest there.
The 1750's clock plays beautiful music. I love it!
Beautiful
I used to live in Randolph Vermont! The music box is the only one of these mechanical instruments I've actually seen.
267 years and it looks like new, impressive!
This is great, thank you for making these videos.
She digs you man :-) 1:42
The best day of week just after Wednesday!
I never see this music box before, but i like to hear the sound,it's very nice in deed
The Only reason i love Monday is because your videos..!
You're right!
She is beautiful and her knowledge makes her even more beautiful to me
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect
Moe Zarella yeah I see that now. Was you know what you're looking at in the definition you provided explain that well I must have not have realized
***Once you know what you're looking at the definition you provided explain that very well***
Yes she is beautiful but her gloves make me a little nervous :p
Ultravore something about her accent too
Description is so cute.
Come forth, MMX!
I remember the Porter Boxes often demonstrated on the outside of a store at Phipp's Plaza many years ago in Atlanta. Don't see them.much anymore. Tubular Bells was known for the original "Exorcist" theme (Michael Olefield)
I need to visit that museum myself. I was quite interested before in the intricate design of those, since my grandmother owned one, but now you got me hooked.
Я всё ещё продолжаю это смотреть, да. Каждый раз.
Just in time :)
This musical clock is absolutely brilliant.
With how many videos you have of this museum I almost thought you lived there! It's good to see all the old footage, though, as much as I do enjoy MMW
Det är så himla HÄFTIGT!!!
I think the Speelklok girl likes you Martin! She so gave you the look 1:43
Stunning pieces Martin. Once again I am amazed at the technology from so long ago.
Totally in love with that Porter Box.
LOVE these videos!
was worried that I'd have to be the one reference THAT video game, but I see someone has done that for me...
Thank you so much for making this series!
Astonishing both mechanism and sound.
I love large music box base ♪
I am So glad that I am Not the only one noticing that You are touching things with un-gloved habds... PLEASE help preserve things by doing as others... Or simply Do not touch.
Always interesting, and nice to see a Lois'guide again :)
People were geniuses... I had no idea that any of these things existed, let alone that they were built hundreds of years ago.
(Except for the music box)
If the clock has a glass back so that you can see it via a mirror on the fireplace, then why doesn't the Speelklokmuseum hang a mirror behind it?
MLeoDaalder I think the museum displays it backwards! The clock face should face out and the music portion would then face the wall. The mirror would show the music portion, note the very rough circular cutout at the base of the music face. In a museum setting, focused on music machines, the clock face holds little or no interest whilst the music box holds all of the interest. The museum is showing the side that counts and also doesn't have to show a 'correct tine'!
But this clock also appears to have interesting mechanisms at the front, such as the moon and track selection dial
I wonder also if it would sound better with the back facing the wall. The sounds of the bell seemed very harsh, but if the bells were in back and had much of their sound reflected off the back wall, I wonder if they would have mellowed a bit.
yes you are correct :-) Although the clock has a beautiful front, the museum decided to display it backwards to show the music mechanism to the visitors.
lois tonen Thank you Lois! These videos are a marvelous advertisement for the museum and will encourage many visitors. Well Done!
I absolutely love these videos
Alan Walker and Porter Robinson.
I'm already listening to this: ruclips.net/video/bDmzGLrdjxQ/видео.html
0:29 wow, has Alan Walker been alive for that long?
Cool Thank You for Posting
Omg her eyes at 1:42!
Thank you for making my mondays great! :D
Swedish MadMan ‘Don’t touch it!’
Just by studying this piece of how well loved it took to create this.
FNAF Nightmares came back instantly. *shivers*
the guides are so nice!
I’ve seen that Porter music box before at a theme park I used to go to all the time. I hardly go at all now cause they haven’t been adding good stuff and have therefore lost my interest, but I can say that it was the first place I saw one of those. I thought the higher notes were on the inside though (I also thought the holes were there because it was powered by air being pulled through them) just what I thought, glad to know what it actually is now. Thanks martan ;p
There's one of those in Canada!! I listened to it, absolutely beautiful!
I can tell you're tired not from the bags in your eyes but cause you repeatedly keep telling people about the double note feature on the Marble Machine X every video. :P
I don't follow this series very closely, but I thought I caught a glimpse of disdain in Lois' eyes when he mentioned it. I thought it was just me, but maybe she's heard it too many times before? XD
Lois does work with him on the project. She's probably tired of it too. But Martin might be doing it for the uninformed viewers who might stumble across these videos.
For anyone wondering: buisklok = tube bell! Meaning it's a hollow tube.
Dading. These guises are really knowledgeable about the masterpieces in the museum. I wonder how expansive their knowledge is on all these interesting instruments and their history.
I LOVEEEEE ALL OF YOUR VIDEOS:D
Keep up the great videos!
I looooove it!!!!!!!!
I had the exact same idea for having multiple songs on a cylinder that plays one song in a single revolution!
Such a difference in time and complexity and not in favor of the latter :)
Elegant indeed