VS | Kanan Jarrus vs Komari Vosa
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- If Kanan Jarrus from Star Wars Rebels met Komari Vosa from Star Wars Bounty Hunter on the battlefield, which of these unrefined, former Jedi Padawans would come out on top?
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It's good that Vosa is actually being used just because her story is awesome
when star wars rebels ends you gotta do blind kanan vs kota
Quite possibly.
Bad duelist? No, I don't think so. I agree they low balled him there. I left a very long comment on the video I believe you are referring to. However, I do not think he's great though as some others seem to insinuate. As a duelist, Yoda disarmed him and Mace could only fight him to an impasse until the aspects of the false shatterpoint came into play. Sidious made Maul and Savage look like clowns and we've seen what Savage can do to council members, Maul as well.
A lot of their analysis stems around speculation, which is one of the things I usually disagree with in their vids. Jensaarai and his Yoda antics (even though many sources say he is indeed the best duelist the Jedi have seen) Evan and his Hoth > Bane mentality, and Reti and his Mace > Yoda musings, when that is factually incorrect in Star Wars lore.
Beg your pardon Antoine but I think you need to look at the context. Palpatine "made Maul and Savage look like clowns" through Force Augmentation, not skill. Jensaarai1 and co. pointed out how throughout that duel Palpatine was using a lot of sloppy, inefficient moves that only "worked" because of the massive strength and speed edge the Force grants. As I've said before it's like giving the Flash a sword and having him cut down a bunch of guys. Does that mean the Flash is an amazing swordsman? Of course not! He's just so fast he doesn't need to be skilled.
+Wright805 Alright ... Let us run with that line of thought. If Sidious was not skilled and Windu could match him 1:1 with regards to augmentation, explain why Windu could only fight him to an impasse, only disarming Sidious through a false and planted shatterpoint.
"Vaapad made him an open channel, half of a superconducting loop completed by the shadow; they became a standing wave of battle that expanded into every cubic centimeter of the Chancellor's office. There was no scrap of carpet nor shred of chair that might not at any second disintegrate in flares of red or purple; lampstands became brief shields, sliced into segments that whirled through the air; couches became terrain to be climbed for advantage or overleapt in retreat. But there was still only the cycle of power, the endless loop, no wound taken on either side, not even the possibility of fatigue.
Impasse.
...
Mace leveled his blade. "You lost for the same reason the Sith always lose: defeated by your own fear."
Palpatine lifted his head. His eyes smoked with hate. "Fool," he said. He lifted his arms, his robes of office spreading wide into raptor's wings, his hands hooking into talons.
"Fool!" His voice was a shout of thunder. "Do you think the fear you feel is mine?""
_Revenge of the Sith novelization_
Because Sidious is actually skilled and powerful. He trained with Plaguies for decades. And as Baka pointed out, forms like Shii-Cho, Ataru and Juyo only function in conjunction with the Force, not without. And to say Sidious is nothing without the Force is as irrelevant as saying Spider-Man is nothing without his sixth sense, or Superman is nothing without our sun. When looking at the capabilities of these characters we look at them at full capacity, not some "what if" that suits a bias.
Ezra Bridger vs Mariss Brood. Apprentices in a time of darkness, shaped by darkness. Who would win?
Yes do one with Ezra Bridger plz
brood stomps. She's a jedi knight level who contended with galen marek and gave him a good fight. Ezra, according to a conversation I had with versus content creator Dimond_360, is low to mid level padawan.
His best bets are ahsoka (from TCW season 1-2 and the TCW movie) and zayne carrik.
Maris BROOD easily
kanan is still developing as a force user and his training of esera is helping his development by forcing him to recall what was taught to him as he rediscovers what it means to be a jedi.
After losing his eyesight, Kanan opened himself much more to the Force and used it more freely. However, his lightsaber skills pretty much capped at Season 2. He got thrown in space by Maul, disarmed and electrocuted by a Trandoshan, and disarmed again by Rukh.
In many ways, I see Kanan as a reverse Obi Wan : started off as a clumsy Soresu/Ataru hybrid practitioner, but got more confident as time progressed, and added Shien to his repertoire. All in all, he IS pretty much on par with AoTC Kenobi by the time of Season 3-4, though stronger in the Force rather than on par in lightsaber skills, where Kenobi was better.
So, if a rematch was to happen, Blind Kanan would have slightly higher chance to win, but by using the Force, rather than outfencing Vosa.
Would he still win? Even with a better chance it's something I highly doubt him pulling off. I saw that clip of him being disarmed. For someone who is more connected he still fails to sense even the most meanial things. If his performance was similar to Rahm Kota's he'd definitely get the win. But as he is now he's sitting between the 10th brother and Rahm Kota due to the his disarming by the trandoshan.
Isn't AoTC Kenobi a tier 4 while Kanan is a tier 4.5?
@@baki484 Yeah, looking back at this, I was probably too generous with Kanan lol
Vosa would have to directly threaten Ezra or Hera to really push him into defeating her, otherwise, Kanan would perform the same as he did against the Seventh Sister.
But him being comparable to AoTC Kenobi still stands, except, as you pointed out, Obi Wan is a full Tier 4, Kanan doesn't compare in lightsaber skills, and his Force Sight suffers from Filoni's PIS. One thing that annoys me so much about Kanan is how they keep yapping about him being bogged down by his fears and insecurities so many times, despite having multiple "moments of clarity/oneness with the Force". Beats the GI because he let go of his fear and because of Jar'Kai, still struggles against Space Team Rocket and needs his spirit's approval to be knighted. He's depressed and dejected after losing his eyesight early in Season 3, then learns Force Sight, performs decently in large scale combat, but still so many ridiculous anti-feats because of Filoni's writing. All of his biggest achievements happened due to frantic sink-or-swim situations, but has never truly grown consistently. That's what's so frustrating.
It's a very similar case with Crylo Ren : overhyped by reference guides and comics, yet still inconsistent and laughably basic.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 if the character is not Ahsoka they are a chump to filoni unfortunately. Kanan is just written as a guy who can't seem to hold onto his lessons as you have stated. how many times does he have to learn to trust in the force and let go of his fear?
Wouldn't Vosa probe him since these match ups are about both combatants going in cold with no outside help? I assume she would threaten him but it's not until those people are actually threatened or actually hurt before he opens himself up. Had Ahsoka not been there Maul would've finished him off something his defenders tend to forget.
Speaking of Kenobi what are your thoughts on his force power/potency? Because if I'm not mistaken he didn't show much promise and Qui Gon took him in after Kenobi helped him stop Xanatos. He grew the way he did through sheer dedication with the culmination of his skills putting at tier 2.
@@baki484 1. Exactly. Filoni's favoritism for Ahsoka is now borderline Mary Sue treatment. After early Season 3, Kanan was just left kinda aimless, so they just killed him off because they had no idea of what else to do with him, other than recycling the angst and self-doubt arcs a billion times.
2. Kanan has no defenses against telepathic attacks, so she'd likely get under his skin pretty quick. So on neutral ground, she wins.
3. AoTC Obi Wan was pretty strong but had a long way to go. But yeah, in his early years, he was a late bloomer with Bruck Chun often bullying him. He is the quintessential High Council Master for a good reason.
Although I would be rooting for Kanan I think this is komari Vosa's game all the way
An very interesting battle 2 broken apprentices at War against each other! I really like this contest since it takes a complete unknown and have them face a well-known fighter! Mad props man!
Thanks Red! That was the intention!
+Antoine Bandele No problem man! Keep up the great work!
PS: I've finally gotten my first Match prepared! Imperial Stormtrooper Division Vs. Imperial Guardsmen from the Warhammer universe. it's going to include basic Troopers, armored vehicles and tactics. Perhaps in the future may be expanded to Starships as well to make a two-stage battle? What do you think?
In Vosa's defense, when Darth Maul said that Jar'Kai was predictable, it's because he had trained with the form countless times. His mentor, Darth Sidious was _also_ a Jar'Kai practitioner. And even Darth Plagueis noted that Maul was a master of the technique before the events of _Maul: Lockdown._
This fact demonstrates more to Maul's Blademaster-like knowledge and experience than to any of Komari Vosa's weaknesses.
For some reason, I think another good opponent for Kanan would be Jax Pavan. Both of them faced extreme hardships after Order 66, neither of them earned the title of master, and both have survived confrontations with Darth Vader.
Someone else mentioned this earlier.
Revan vs Darth Bane [Both Jedi who advocated the Rule of Two]
Revan vs Darth Vader [Both cloaked, masked figures]
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kanan did reach knighthood tho
Kinda
+Pigpen077 the vision was from Yoda tho so Yoda basically knighted him
EKOwillco5 Wasn’t it the force? It’s been a while so I might not remember Yoda being in it, but thought it was literally just the force.
Kanan Jarrus(Blinded) vs Rahm Kota(Blinded) would seem like a good fight, once we know Kanan's skills will be.
Now we know. Kota stomps
Rahm Kota had injuries he wasn't aware of, survived the arena on katonamoidia (spelled it wrong I know) for a week before being rescued and still has enough fight in him vs Kanan (at the height of his power) gets disarmed by Ruhk, needs to focus to move what is essentially a withering bridge and needs oneness to to create a barrier.
I go with Kota who can do all Kanan can and then some without some epiphany in the force.
Idk how you do it, but you managed to make me interested in a fight between a guy I don't like and a girl I've almost never heard of. Great job, as always
Thanks man I tried. That was my intention for both characters. To get people exposed on both sides of Star Wars, both canon and obscure Legends.
I think Kanan Jarrus vs. Padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi would be a good match-up.
Do you think Kanan would be classed as a Jedi Sentinel?
Nah, he's a Jedi Guardian.
Sentinel who in a different time could have been a jedi watchmen
Kanan is like a reverse Obi Wan Kenobi in terms of development, and almost on par with his AoTC self. Only whereas Kenobi was a Jedi Guardian with the attitude of a Consilar, Kanan was a Guardian who acted like a Sentinel, infiltrating and sabotaging enemy bases.
Once more Antoine, extremely well done. I would've thought that Komari would've won more often, but I must bow to your excellent presentation. I feel, also, that I may ascribing more power to a more "favored" character to me personally. As always your research is spotless, but your presentation is perfect, at least to me. Yes, I can still close me eyes and "see" the fight as you describe it. I did enjoy this work very much, much more than I thought I would when you first announced you were undertaking this effort. Thank-you sir, Dante.
Thanks Dante! Gotta give a showcase to those obscure Legends character, and vice versa. For those who have no looked at the new canon and are holding onto a Legends-only mentality.
So hyped for Katara vs. Toph.
I feel Toph has got this but I'm looking forward to an actual analysis.
All aboard the hype train!
Ah poor Kanan. Great analysis once again. I also have some requests.
- Ahsoka Tano vs Komari Vosa
- Kyle Katarn vs The Grand Inquisitor
- Mara Jade vs Asajj Ventress
- Satele Shan vs General Grevious
Ahsoka vs Komari Vosa..
How about...Komari VOsa vs Bariss Offee
Dread Dark why Bariss?
Steven Zissimos IMO I think it would be a could fight between the two. Both are Dark Jedi just in there own ways.
One is insane in her reason.
The other abit with a motive for it.
Ahsoka, Kyle, Mara, and Grevious would be the winners in those versus in my opinion, but all of them would make great discussions.
Ian Keating I think so too.
whoa whoa whoa! vosa confronted maul? what?!
also great video as always~
Yes and thanks:
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If Kanan Jarrus from Star Wars Rebels met Komari Vosa from Star Wars Bounty Hunter on the battlefield, which of these unrefined, former Jedi Padawans would come out on top?
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Nice, I figured Komari would win because she's more experience then Kanan if not better 😉
Oh and one question are you going to use toph from the last air bending or the legend of Korra?
ventress vs komari
Moonshadow 554: It also has to do with Kanan's connection to the Force, an his inability to channel deeply in any sustainable way. . . Both characters are their _Last Airbender_ iterations.
Supersmily Gamer: Ventress > Vosa in a very comfortable majority for Ventress.
hmmm, what about a funny versus shorts, for example Rey vs padme???
Luke Skywalker and Leia Organa Solo vs. Arcann and ThexanBattle of the Twins!
luke and leia stomp.
Finally got around to watching this. very good match up and great video as always
Thanks Captain.
I would love to see a one of these versus videos with post blinding Kanan.
Probably happening after Season 4. Ezra as well.
Thank you.
Damn, these videos sound more poetic each instalment, especially the intros. Also, "Maul put on his serious pants". That's an... interesting metaphor.
Heh
Yes Antoine! I've been waiting a long time for this!!
Muroomaa!
+Antoine Bandele lmao hey Antoine!!
i recommend the battle of the exiles: Meetra Surik vs. Ahsoka Tano
That was a pretty fun match-up. I didn't really doubt for a second that the apprentice of Count Dooku would come out on top here, but it was still fun to see the analysis.
I think a more fair and interesting opponent for Kanan would be Jax Pavan. Both of them have regularly faced off against Inquisitors, and have both bested the top Inquisitor of their respective era, both have gone toe-to-toe with Vader, and while having survived the encounter, were clearly outmatched. Both have only been Jedi Knights for a relatively short time, with Jax being Knighted three months before the end of the Clone Wars, and Kanan having gotten Knighted in Season 2 of Rebels. If you ever get around to checking out the Coruscant Nights trilogy, I'd love to see you tackle this match-up.
Anyway, great video as always, Antoine. Keep up the good work, man!
Not a bad thought. But I'm gonna use Zayne first.
Kanan would win because he has plot armor, He survived a duel against Darth Vader, which speaks volumes about his armor.
Vader normally just goes in and effortlessly crushes fodder opponents like Kanan.
While Rebels abused plot armor to death, Vader purposely left him and Ezra alive because he wanted them to lead him to the Rebel fleet.
Great video!
Though he may have lost, the Cowboy Jedi still put up a fight until the bitter end no matter how outmatched he was by the leader of the Bando Gora (although, I'm now interested in a possibility of a match-up between Komari Vosa against the Grand Inquisitor)
Also, can't wait for the next versus match. It's a tough one, but I'm gonna have to say Toph gets the slight upper hand.
Komari vs Grand Inquisitor could be cool.
Do starkiller vs obi wan kenobi who would win
Goddamn this was a phenomenal VS video, perhaps one of the best ever. Your analysis, writing, editing, voice acting, and music choices were all perfect. I was enthralled all the way through regardless of knowing who was going to win.
Thanks! I'm really thankful to Turk for providing a voice for Depa Billaba in my "mock" motion-comic for _Kanan #2._
Antoine Bandele That was cool, I really liked that part.
Durge vs. James Heller
Yeah, Kanan has been pretty inconsistent. There's a lot of dual natures and hesitation inside of him, which probably comes from switching from Padawan to smuggler/scoundrel to rebel to master of an apprentice. I wonder what we'll get out of him from season 3 of Rebels. The trailer does look promisning for him, I think-
Hopefully he doesn't take a back seat like he did in Season 2.
I guess it depends how much the writers wanna focus on him and his blindness.
Kanan Jarru (Caleb Dume) vs Cal Kestis
This could be an interesting vs episode
GrandLego Ma Yes but it would be difficult since cal is from a video game.
Haven’t finished the game yet. Who do you think?
I think it would be tough but kanan was just more focused than cal he was also wiser
dem cheetos Yeah I agree
Cal is sort of a Starkiller and Kyle Katarn lite, partly due to his videogame nature. He has a very broad array of Force powers and skills at his disposal, none too powerful, but just enough to serve their purpose, his lightsaber is very unique since it can split in two. And unlike Kanan, he took down two Inquisitors and a Dark Jedi, not just one, having no familiarity with the Ninth Sister beforehand either.
What makes it interesting here is that Kanan, despite being a physical brawler, taller and more muscular, took a very safe approach with his Soresu/Ataru mix. Whereas Cal, who looks scrawny and nimble, has a more power-based fighting style with one blade (I'd say Shii-Cho, Djem So with slight elements of Ataru) and has taken it a step further into Trakata and Niman thanks to the split saber.
Rico Chico Malico did it. Look it up
Of course, with Kanan's constant progression as Rebels goes on, the result of this fight will be much different by the end of the season. His handicap in his blindness will force the best out of him and he will become a greater person because of it.
It would be interesting if you did one on Mace Windu and Darth Maul using their version of Form VII
maul stupidly feeds mace's vaapad and mace blows him away. Done
Wow. That was an awesome and entertaining analysis.
Impressive. Most impressive.
Thanks Way.
Agree. Odds are very much against Kanan though I love him and would be rooting for him all the way.
Wow. This was a great video. I was just thinking you were going to go for Kanan all the way, then I started watching the video, and I was very surprised, which I liked. I also liked how you saved the advantage to the victor until the end. It gave it a little more surprise. I'm looking forward to the next battle. I'd have preferred Katara vs Zuko, but I like this one too.
I'm sure Katara vs Zuko would come up at some point.
+Antoine Bandele Yeah probably, and like I said, I like the idea behind this match as well.
I feel like this match up should have come at a later time. Kanan seems like he's just getting started. I bet he'll eventually come to really trust in the force and become the freaking Daredevil of Star Wars lol at least I hope he'll become much stronger soon.
As of now we have a "set" version of Kanan, and that's pre-blind Kanan.
+Antoine Bandele still you're using a developing character against a already developed character would be like using orbalisk bane instead of bane as he is I think you jumped the gun with this one
I'm glad I'm not the only one comparing Kanan to Daredevil on this website.
You can't win on RUclips. I've seen so many suggestions for Kanan here and when he finds a way to use him people then go . . . wait, wait, wait . . . too soon, too soon. Never even saw a comment like this on the vote video.
It's the same thing as using Blind Kota or non-Blind Kota. They are two different characters with different abilities. Kanan being blind will be a big alteration for his character, so we have this set character now. Almost like TPM Maul and TCW Maul and Rebels Maul. Whatever happens to Blind Kanan, it will pretty significantly different, whether for better or worse. With regards to Kota, for instance, he never was the same and never was as good as he was before. This could be different for Kanan, and I hope it is. Because I feel when he is forced to use the Force, is when he does the best. But losing something like sight will be a big deal.
love the video I still like kanan but makes sense why he doesn't have majority. I wish kanan would use his blaster more I always thought of him as some kid of swash buckling pirate.
Ig 88 vs hk 47 battle of the assassin droids
HK-47. He's basically the Deadpool of Star Wars.
It would still be a good battle
I do feel like they could’ve done a lot with Kanan and a unique fighting style. What you mentioned in the video alone makes it sound much more interesting.
Kanan was Knighted later by the then dead grand inquisitor's force spirit after his return to the light post death. so I must disagree. that is also pre blind kanan. blind kanan would destroy her. the inconsistency of kanan would give her the win the first few times they met. and i am certain it would be more than once. either way regardless of the number of wins I see kanan ending her permanently in the end.
That was a spiritual Knighting, not an official one. Was all in Kanan's head. Also ... what!? Blind Kanan able to destroy her? What kind of feats back up that statement!? Plus, the basis of what you are saying, that Kanan's inconsistency would giver her the win the first _few times_ they met, is in favor of Vosa.
He would leave if he got overwhelmed by her unless he could not for some reason. fighting her again he would do better than the first just like with the inquisitor's. The spiritual knighting still requires a certain amount of skill or experience for it to happen. Also blind kanan is more in tune with the force. on these grounds I must disagree. the first time they fight would go in her favor but he would be able to escape specially if ezra is there too. but at some point he would remember his strengths and make use of them. his down fall would be in his refusal to execute her after defeating her, unless she pushed the attack some how after in which I then believe he would do her in but only out of necessity. that is the other thing I forgot to take into consideration.
CJ Sabo Have you seen Season 3 of Rebels or something? Highly doubtful. You have no feats to back up your claims about Blind Kanan.
Her is forced to rely on the force instead of his eyes. That is the feat to backup my claim. I guess we will just have to see.
CJ Sabo You still have no presented any feats, just speculation fam.
Well done as always, kudos.. 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍
Thanks Mark.
An excellent video, Antoine. I was a bit taken aback over Komari's sheer advantage, but thinking about it carefully; it makes sense. Vosa was a talented individual, but it was her unhinged personality and love of battle that held her back from being a Jedi. Kanan always struck me as someone who while competent never had the chance to really go anywhere. And whatever skills he did garner, significant as they were, were more focused and niche.
That isn't to say Kanan is bad. For instance, I love how much of a contradiction he is in that he's so wild and energetic, yet utilizes the most passive lightsaber form. No doubt a holdover from Depa Bilaba. I kind of want to see how Season three handles Kanan. I'm hoping him being blinded will serve as an awakening in retrospect; specifically, where Kanan gains a greater understanding of himself, the Force so as to forward himself. In other words, him learning to rely on the Force representing him passing the trails and becoming a Jedi Knight in full.
Speaking of blind, I'm pumped you are doing another Avatar vs. video. Toph and Katara is an excellent matchup. With that said, is it possible that you could do a matchup between Mai and Pian Dao? I think two normal individuals who utilize bladed weapons could be fascinating.
I too look forward to Kanan's development, especially how he handles being blind.
And oh yes, Avatar has not gone anywhere. It is firmly on this channel.
Excellent video. Cut right to the main point: Consistency
It will be interesting to see how Kanan develops in Rebels season 3.
In a way, becoming blind might be the best thing for him.
Antoine Bandele Well...... that's dark
Unfortunately this just serves as a reminder of how depressingly underwhelming all of the force sensitives (with the exception of Ahsoka) in Rebels are. Especially Dark Siders. Even Darth Maul.... Darth. Fucking. Maul. Is defeated by a below average jedi knight. It's just sad.
In Maul's defense, he never fought a blind Force-user before.
Argh! You had to upload this on the day I go back to school! XD! But a great video. I've really been looking forward to seeing Kanan in a VS video. I had an idea for a video. I've been thinking about Qui Gon Jin vs Luke Skywalker. I know it seems one sided to Qui Gon but hear me out. I fully believe that if they both started the fight full on, Qui gon would win. But against Luke, I kinda think that Qui Gon would open up with his use of Makashii to poke at Luke's defences. To get a feel for his skill. But from what I can tell, that would be Qui Gon's biggest mistake. Luke's key strength is his adaptability. And I believe that once Luke adapts to Jin's style, he would launch a counter attack that Qui Gon couldn't defend against. But I'm not 100% confident in my assumption of Qui Gon's abilities and attributes, as I've not read any of the source books, comics, or novels concerning Qui Gon. All I've really got is the Phantom Menace and the vs videos made by you and Evan (as they're the only ones I've watched with Qui gon. But I'd really appreciate it if you consider this video or even reply to the comment. Also, my money's on Toph! ;-)
I actually would say Luke > Jinn.
could you do kanan vs someone like...say Ferus Olin?
I know I'm three years late, but Ferus would stomp Kanan. If we put them at their respective peaks, fighting a few Inquisitors and Dark Siders on even terms is good. But Ferus was being trained by Sidious to replace Vader because of their similar power, skill, and potential. I mean the guy fought Vader on near even ground.
Edit: He was at least of master of Makashi and/or Ataru with some skill in Soresu and maybe even some training in Juyo (he would occasionally give himself to the flow of battle, which is a either an indicatorfor Shii-Cho or Juyo as both emphasize giving yourself to sensation and the Force). He also favored Dun Möch after his training with Sidious. He was also a highly developed Force wielder (Palpatine believed he rivalled Vader) with potent skills in telekinesis, telepathy, physical augmentation, illusions, Force Concealment, and moderate levels of hydrokinesis. Oh yeah, he can also Force Scream, use Battle Mind, Dark Side Rage empowerment, precognition, has moderate success with Shatterpoint, and has a large amount of Dark Side knowledge that he absorbed like a sponge. He is also extremely physically capable and has a great amount of endurance. He ran a fast-paced and deadly duel with Darth Vader and was gripped and tossed around the room and battered and bruised to high Heaven. Vader even said he should be dead. Yet less than a few hours later (give or take it isn't specified, but is implied to be a short amount of time) he gets out of an infirmary with nearly full access to his abilities and regains a good portion of his strength. He would outclass Kanan so badly it wouldn't be funny. He's a better match for a Council Master, with all of his skills and abilites at least. A better match for Kanan would be Jax Pavan, Xanatos, or anyone from mid-Knight/Inquisitor to high-tier Padawan/Apprentice. I'm not saying Kanan isn't skilled or powerful in his own right, but he isn't a Master-level opponent, and would be slaughtered by anyone who is. Like for example Ferus Olin.
@@austinkersey2445 how about ferus vs rebels ahsoka? I had this conversation with someone else
@@lapplandkun9273 I would honestly say Ferus. He just has too many abilities that have been taken to either the nth level or have been taken to a high level. His lightsaber skills and hers are probably the most even they get, but I would say he maybe edges her out. His physical abilities are beyond hers as well, possessing a damn-near Olympic physique in his prime with good agility, strength, durability, and great reflexes. She has a pretty good body to work with, but it's pretty clear her agility is her primary (and most developed) attribute. Her strategy and tactics are pretty straightforward in that she doesn't plan a fight ahead of time and plays the situation by ear most of the time. Ferus on the other hand loves to prepare for battle and manipulate opponents by telepathically probing them (thanks Sidious as if he wasn't already a Force and lightsaber prodigy but now this) and then exploiting any fears or failings he finds. He's just too strong for her to contend with in my opinion. Especially since he was a contender to replace Darth Vader and put Vader through an actual stressful situation. She would put up a pretty good fight though. He would likely extremely winded by the end of the fight, and likely a little injured. That said I don't see it being anything a day in the bacta tank wouldn't fix. A good matchup for her would be Shaak-Ti or perhaps Ki Adi-Mundi. I would say give my Old Republic era Jedi some lovin' but someone already did a video on her vs Bastila Shan. As for Kanan I think Rahm Kota would be a good fit (makes sense given their shared affliction), which I think Kanan would still lose. It just wouldn't be by as much as if Kanan was pitted against Ferus. To be fair to Kanan about 99% of all Jedi and Sith would have a tough time against Ferus. The guy's a monster. The only Force wielders able to outright best Ferus in his time would be Yoda, Sidious, and Vader (at the time of Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi).
Well thought out... I wonder how often screenwriters analyze their characters' fighting styles this deeply?
Also, as a suggestion for future battles, how about (pre-Skywalker) Mara Jade v. Darth Maul? That seems good. Yes, yes, I know, Mara Jade is a Legends character...
Screenwriters ... almost never ... But the animators, I would hope, give it some thought. Mara Jade vs Maul should be good. Would be a good introduction to Mara Jade on this channel.
Pre-blind Kanan vs Clone Wars Ahsoka.
She'd kick his arse 😂
+Luke Woods 😂😂
+Luke Woods Further proves how the Clone Wars is better than Rebels.
Ian Keating not really, she's just way more experienced than he is. She's fought Ventress and General Grevious many times, plus learning from Anakin and Obi-Wan.
+Luke Woods Very true.
12:44 it is this aspect of a Force users abilities that differs from other super powered beings, especially telekinetics. While most telekinetic beings can use their powers effortlessly, The ease with which a Force user accesses their power is greatly affected by their mental and emotional state, meaning that their powers and the effectiveness of their powers can actually fluctuate based on a situation and how affected they are by it.
As such, mental and emotional stresses and traumas, such as having to concentrate on deflecting or avoiding something makes their abilities to just call on their powers to assist them more difficult. Also, it appears that Force users can’t use two powers at a time, limiting them to either divert the Force into themselves or aiming it at a target.
Obi-wan Kenobi vs. Darth Lumiya
I would actually love to see that. Legendary defensive duelist against someone who uses an extremely unorthodox weapon.
The way I see it, it would end one of two ways. Either she just stomps him with ease, the way she did in her first encounter with Luke, thanks almost entirely to her weapon, or Obi-Wan is able to defend against the hybrid lightwhip, in which case his power in the Force makes it an easy victory for him, due to Lumiya's shortcomings in that area. Either way, it'd probably be a stomp for one side.
Obi-Wan. Almost nothing can penetrate his Form 3 defense and his calm, disciplined focus combined with his Force abilities would allow him to curbstomp Lumiya.
Awesome video man!
Thanks 72.
"Sith wannabe"
Thank you so much for making this VS I love Vosa ever since I played Bounty Hunter (my favorite non jedi playing star wars video game) she's very underrated and is a awesome, interesting, "tragic" character. As for Kanan he's just awesome in my book a really interesting character and also a tragic one.
I agree with the verdict 200%. She had more training and had a better teacher in my opinion then kanan at least by season 2. A later season kanan with more training and who has fully come to trust the force to be his eyes may defeat the sith pretender.
If they met on the battlefield I think Vosa would still win. She would just be pumped up more the Kanan from the battle. Also she battled the greatest warrior's ever the Mandalorians. While Kanan has battled normal Stormtroopers for the most part. In my scenario they would meet on Rhen Var with Vosa cutting down the rebel scum and kanan pushing through the stormtroopers. Like I said Kanan will try to focus on her and be calm and she would be out for blood cause I think she was used to more frantic battles. She would just rip through him tapping into the dark side. In the end the Dark jedi would cut down the Cowboy jedi. Thanks again for making an awesome Vs video you rock may the force be with you!!
Poor Kanan...I knew he would lose badly.....but not THIS badly....we need a better Kanan
This is why I cant see Kanan as a viable fighter..I was hoping Kanan would win (Out of a fools hope)
But....unfortunetly this cowboy Jedi will never get a shot in the big leagues if not duel the best......sigh........a waste..OF A CHARCTER.
But good stuff as usual I see you really went out to get Kanan..outthere...but truthfully...............................he sucks. I think he can beat Rey though.
Katara vs Toph?
Hmmmm this sounds awesome.
But . . . he didn't lose badly.
Jeff Collins *cries* He did...........HE DID!!
I like Kanans Character but JEEZUS HE SUCKS AS A FIGHTer I cant get behind a likable character who cant even leap certain obsticales.......when Blinded Kanan returns and............hope fully does something good if not impressive...I WANT A REMATCH!!
But for real tho....Kanan................*looks at feats*.........needs work.
So his standing as a character is judge just by his fighting ability?
Psychonis Yup if your all talk and no action your nothing but a talker.
He is just Sha Gi with a personality basically, with posters and him as the central character.
Not that intersting if he cant even grow in power against the many who attempt to stop him.
TO me he is a failure as a protagonist (Pre blinded) idk his true prime but Season 1-2 Kanan is a joke.
Dread Dark So his past struggles as padawan surviving the war and trying to make his way in the galaxy, his relationship with Ezra and the crew, and his efforts be help the early rebellion and become a true Jedi don't really matter to him as a character because he is not the best fighter and that some guy on RUclips gives his unofficial opinion that he would lose to Vosa? Really?
You could also call this video Light Side Canon vs Dark Side Legends.
Regarding a rematch with Blind Kanan : he's likely on par with AoTC Kenobi, albeit slightly more powerful in the Force. His skill set remains based on Soresu and Ataru, but I believe he also added more of Shien (other than replicating Makashi when sparring with Sabine). That said, outside of adding a bit of Shien and being more overt with his Force powers, Kanan capped out his skills. He was bamboozled by Maul by being thrown into space, he was caught off guard by a Trandoshan with a whip, and was easily disarmed by Rukh.
Most likely, he still wouldn't be able to overwhelm Vosa with the saber, though he would contend a bit better if he switches from Soresu to Ataru or Shien, by kicking her or countering with sweeping slashes, though ultimately he would keep her at bay with the Force by pushing her. He might even use Tutaminis at least to deflect her sabers, but with a lot of strain. Or, if she gets arrogant and tries to ambush him, he could pull a similar move to what he (and Kenobi in their last encounter) did to Maul. So in the end, a narrow victory for Kanan.
Tutaminis is off the table given the massive Amp he received from his oneness with the force and lothal being a lightside Nexus which he was drawing from.
But everything else I agree.
Kanan vs Zayne would be so awesome.
I gotta say your videos have really taught me more about star wars
That's awesome to hear!
This actually helped me iron out the wrinkles in a personal Jedi character I created.
I even made a multiform light saber for him in 3D, just to see what I could come up with(here's the link: thanos-daresaidus.deviantart.com/art/Beacon-omni-weapon-646193419 ).
I can even make you a custom light saber, for free because I enjoy designing.
Please do this series again. Now that Rebels has concluded, please make a rematch with Season 4 Kanan against Komari. His skills have really come a long way
He's never coming back to it. It's only Avatar content now.
Good video. I do hope Kanan improves though because then he can be as powerful as good ole Hondo. I mean if I can face the chosen one and live that must mean I am the best character ever :D
Once again, awesome video. Keep it up.
Thanks Max.
Once again, you've outdone yourself. Great video.
However, I'm curious as to why you didn't include Kanan's fight with Darth Vader. While he was clearly no match for the Sith Lord, he did act a bit more aggressively toward him than he did the Inquisitors, even barely managed two 10-sec saberlocks with him. Quite impressive, considering Vader's cybernetically-enhanced strength. And Kanan's almost as tall as Vader, 6.3 feet vs. 6.6 feet.
I'm glad we agree that Soresu couldn't be Komari Vosa's primary form. We've seen her doing some acrobatic attacks, suggesting that she had some skill in Ataru. And yes, she must've learned some form of Makashi from Dooku; her curved-hilt lightsabers were naturally suited for a Form II practitioner, as stated in _The Jedi Path_.
While Komari and Asajj Ventress were similar, the former lady was psychotic. A shrew completely untamed, unleashed. This would be how Kanan would fall.
Looking forward to see the next Versus video. Since Katara and Toph are best friends, I'd see this more as a sparring match than a fight to the death.
I didn't feel anything significant could be pulled from his fight with Vader, as they were so far removed from each other in terms of power/skill level.
Antoine Bandele
Well, we all saw how Vader nearly killed Ezra. Only Sith Lords could be capable of such creepy creativity.
Also, Vader wasn't even trying in their fight. He was simply beating the crap out of them to scare them further and continue his plan of having them lead him to the Rebel fleet. Vader could have killed all of the Rebels in no more than 30 seconds if he wanted to.
Furious Sherman
Valid point.
Ezra vs. Zett Jukassa would be cool.
I really hope to see canderous ordo vs pre viszla
You should do a versus between Abeloth and Darth Nihilus
abeloth eats nilhlus
RIP Kanan Jarrus😞. But it was expected sooner or later
I can't believe my comment out of all of them was thrown in!
Oh my Lego Lord!
thx!
Great video.
I enjoy this one as well. Eventually I'll do an Ezra vs Ahsoka. I just need to actually watch the last season and half of Rebels (I dropped off of it at the end).
Finally someone did a vs involving vosa and not to mention after dooku force choked her to death he gave her twin sabers to ventress!
Yes even though I'm late I can't wait to watch this will be epic!!!!!!!!!
It's Lego!
Hahhaa made my day :D
You NEED to do Ahsoka Tano vs Trilla Suduri and Asajj Ventress vs Komari Vosa
Antoine is not doing Star Wars content again. Also, Ahsoka beats Trilla and Ventress destroys Vosa.
Awesome versus episode. It interesting to know about Kanan life before & after order 66 as well he training and his force abilities. I find Komari voice is so scary when she use telepathic on Jango Fett. When Komari fought against Darth Maul was it around the time before or during the events of the Phantom Menace film. The best lightsaber duel with Kanan is on the last episode of season one where he use Jar-Kai against the grand Inquisitor.
Komari faced Maul just before _The Phantom Menace._ Plagueis was still alive at that point.
I always took it as him falling back on the example of his fallen master as she was his safe place.
I agree with the verdict. Excellent analysis and argument as always. I quite like Vosa.
Thanks Thomas.
Hey can you do anyone from the fate/ series? I know it might be hard because the fate/ series consists of multiples outcomes(timelines), but it would be awesome to see!
0:56 Hey, it's the cover art for Jedi Apprentice: The Dark Rival!
I own that book!
Yep yep. You should check out my VS covering Xanatos.
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Nice video and I agree. I would like to see Komari Vosa vs these characters in future videos with her.
1: Komari Vosa vs Xanatos.
2: Komari Vosa vs Pre Vizla.
3: Komari Vosa vs TCW Ahsoka.
4: Komari Vosa vs fallen Jedi Barriss Offee.
5: Komari Vosa vs the grand Inquisitor.
6: Komari Vosa vs Cad Bane.
7: Komari Vosa vs Padawan Anakin.
8: Komari Vosa vs Darth Zannah.
9: Komari Vosa vs Lucien Draay.
10: Komari Vosa vs Old Ben Kenobi.
11: Komari Vosa vs Warb Null.
Vosa vs Xanatos would be extremely close.
Antoine Bandele I know right!? It is my favorite out of these.
Antoine Bandele So will you make that a video? And what do you think about my other suggestions? I changed the Ahsoka one from Rebels Ahsoka to TCW Ahsoka.
I remember when I used pronounce kanan "canon".... I was so dumb.
Eh, we often have to do a lot of guess work before hearing pronunciations.
+Antoine Bandele yes, true that
While I agree Vosa is more agile as you said in the video Kanan does not lack in this department and Kanan's strength feats are superhuman and better then the majority of characters in the mythos. He's restrained Zeb, brawled with an alien who collapsed a five story scaffolding and overpowered the lock mechanism of a blast door simply by straining against it. His constitution and pain tolerance as you mentioned is also highly impressive being able to take a stab wound to the back and keep fighting as if it was nothing and being able to duel and defeat the Grand Inquisitor after having undergone days of torture. He also has leverage over Vosa in a duel due to his height advantage. I feel physicality is firmly in Kanan's favor.
Not to mention manipulating two ship sized asteroids with Ezra, Force pushing Vader with Ezra, and the cave in he held up being an entire collapsed mining zone. Given Kanan and Vosa's various feats I would favor Kanan in raw power though I agree that Vosa would probably use her power more effectively.
Agree with your skill assessment.
I think Kanan would take it overall though I still enjoyed the video. :)
I don't comfortably back Kanan due to his inconsistency. I truly do believe as a default, he is Inquisitor level, which isn't far off from Komari.
Antoine Bandele Yeah, I do wish he was more consistent and employed his force power in fights more. That's unlikely to happen with Rebels though what with the need to maintain stakes and thus the necessity of Kanan and Ezra struggling against whatever villain of the week they're put against.
I wonder if some of his issues werent from being so rusty for so long with a blade after the purge on top of writing issues on consistency(it is a kids show) but it will be interesting to see how they develop both Master and Student no?
Bastion83 Yes, definitely.
What evidence do you have that supports your claim of Kanan having some of the best strength feats in the method? Or do you mean in canon only?
Geralt Of Rivia VS Beowulf can you do this one?
You know what I think would be a hell of a fight. Arcann vs Revan
I plan on using Arcann after the next SWTOR expansion, but not against Revan.
+Antoine Bandele Nice one, it'd be a interesting fight.
Komari owns the Rahm Kota wannabe.
Nice job, by the way.
***** They're actually similar: renegade, blind Jedi who got crippled by a Dark Sider voiced by Sam Witwer... think about it.
Besides, you two are taking this too literally; it was meant as a joke since Disney seems to dismiss the EU, yet takes so many fucking ideas from it.
Haydz gamez It's one thing to make an EU character canon, it's another to deny it being canon and then making a complete rip-off.
Can you comprehend this?
Haydz gamez yes it is.
Haydz gamez Because the characters are essentially copy-pasted Legends characters.
Haydz gamez
I am not talking about Thrawn; Oh my God how old are you? Do you understand taking a an EU character and making him canon, and stealing an EU character's design and personality and story aren't the same thing?
Interesting fight. I think Komari would win nevertheless.
I'd like to read about Vosa, Could you let me know what novel she's in. great video, look forward to the new rebel season
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Obi-wan Kenobi and Ahsoka Tano VS Darth Bane.
That was an interesting video. Your comment about Kanan's preferred form not fitting his personality made me wonder if part of it is because he became a scoundrel as a way to defend himself. I wonder if it's a mentality of trading one defense for another.
Would have loved to see him be more brutal, kinda like he was with those stormtroopers at the prison. But I understand how he wants to set a good example for Kanan.
You should see Bode Akuna as an example for how you want Kanan to be.
Okay I made my argument for kanan. His more defensive fighting style is more practical and more effective in this kind of fight. It will just play out like kenobi vs anakin in revenge of the sith. The fight is likely only gonna be a light saber duel and force abilities will likely not have to force play a combative role and if it does kanan could at least hold. He is stronger and tougher so he won't be over powered and he could counter duel blades being able contend with more obscure weapons and was in my mind the same level as the grand inquisitor who was on par with a basic level jedi knights which is were I place komari. So It will more likely play out like the mustafar duel.
That's under the notion that Kanan could match Komari's skill, which has not been displayed. Right now you are likening Kanan's level of Soresu to that of the grand master of the form, and I've not seen anything from Kanan that makes this the case.
If I may make a suggestion, It may sound unorthodox but you've done a Team V 1 battle before so may I suggest:
Grevious VS The Red Lotus
I want to see: Ahsoka (Rebels) vs Blind Kanan and Season 3 Ezra. I knoooow, it's sounds not fair, but i saw the new season 3 trailer, and I was just like: OMG.
PLSSS
I agree with your verdict, on the belief that Vosa would take the early advantage. although I don't think that Kanan would be able to launch a counter offensive in the mid fight due to Vosa's energetic, and exuberant offensive assault. I also agree with you when it comes to the late fight. Vosa would resort to her force abilities, and Kanan could possibly tap into his deep connection to the force, but that his highly unlikely due to Kanan's inconsistency with doing so. so in short, I do agree with your verdict, but I think Vosa would have the fight well in hand from start to finish.
Thanks for explaining!
hey man no problem, if I couldn't explain my thesis I wouldn't be a proper analyst
thanks!!
I've noticed kanan has become exponentially stronger in the force ever since becoming blind and being trained by that bendu guy. His recent feat of catching that rock bridge on geonosis was extremely impressive. And he has struggled with lesser feats in prior series.
Not stronger, just more proficient and overt. Him lifting a stone bridge is not much different from him lifting a caved in rock ceiling in the New Dawn novel. It's just a matter of clearing his doubts. He still got thrown into space by Maul. Besides, his lightsaber skills pretty much capped at Season 2, as he was disarmed easily by some random Trandoshan and then by Rukh.
At best, he's on par with AoTC Kenobi.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 The bridge needed to be loosened by Rex and saw before Kanan could do that and even then he needed to a moment to gather his energies would've been better if he loosened it on his own. The bridge became increasingly lighter as it crumbled away.
excellent video, as always. Pls make another vs with Quinlan vos, its a very important jedi and i think its a little bit underestimated (maybe againts asajji Ventres, as they both were under counts doku´s command for a time)
Yeah I really would like to use Vos again. I have plans for him soon-ish.
Can u do an avatar versus between Hama and Ming Hua the Broken Waterbenders
That's a fair assessment. Kanan doesn't seem like a very easy fighter to pin down, since he almost seems to switch up his approach in each fight, and everything for him does seem to be circumstantial. I do however think that his defense would hold up better against Komari, just because we don't really have any fears of her decisively breaking through an apposing force-sensitive's defense. Especially not a Soresu specialist.
Feats*
Right, which is why I think the fight ending so early or this bring a "stomp" as very unlikely.
did you ever get around to doing a versus series with Lord Scourage, I found his character to be very interesting
That is coming, keep your eyes on Jensaarai1's channel for that one.
Awesome, can't wait to see it. Thanks brother