Can't get enough WAC? I highly suggest you watch @JKJ's video on the WAC, which is only about half a year old at this point. It's one of the better college sports history videos on the platform!
This is why I always appreciate the MAC, Sunbelt, and Mountain West. They aren't power 5 conferences nor are they feeder conferences that get picked apart, but they stay true to what they are as conferences.
The Big East is the best version of this as they kicked CFB out and it has done wonders for stability. All conferences that go with CFB will be doomed to chaos outside of a very lucky few.
Can I just say I love these conference history videos? Nowhere else can you get as insightful historical analysis of a conference with added entertainment. Easily one of my favorite serieses on RUclips
This is my conference as a Utah Valley student and die hard fan. Thanks for this video! You should do a full video on the current state of the WAC, especially in basketball. My UVU Wolverines had a season for the ages last year. 28 wins (most in Utah) and the final four of the NIT. Unforgettable year!
What I find interesting when watching these conference videos is how history can repeat itself. 4/6 of the founding members of the WAC for instance are going to be Big XII members later this year.
Another great video. I was at my peak college football spectator the years of the WAC collapse. At the time, Boise State departure was 'with the WAC's blessing. ' at least that's the press releases said.
Wow, what ride this one was. It's crazy seeing how so many schools diverge and converge. What a good video. Love seeing Blaster for CSM in the RMAC part of the video. Feels like a throwback to the border conference video. Dont know if you were thinking of my comment Dalukes, but nice detail either way.
The WAC's sheer ability to stay alive after everything is just impressive. The Mountain West could have killed it, C-USA could have killed it, but nope, there are gonna be WAC games this year.
Very insightful video about the Western Athletic Conference. To quote what Lukas wisely said, "Memories of LaVell Edwards, Colt Brennan, and the Statue of Liberty echo loudly through the Western United States, even as those days are long gone and the actors involved have all gone their separate ways." But there's a lesson to be learned here: Sometimes bigger isn't always better. And the WAC -- or is it the "WACKY!" -- should serve as a reminder to these burgeoning super-conferences that bigger isn't always better. But will the rest of the college sports world listen? Well...probably not. But hey, you can't give up hope.
I was at Lamar for the 2020 WAC transition and people hated them leaving the Southland Conference just for them to then pay out to leave early and go back.
I wonder how this timeline would be different if Washington State, Oregon, and Oregon State joined the WAC as it seemed early on instead of just staying in the Pac
Love the video! Just something I noticed though: UIW was never a member of the WAC. They joined D1 in the Southland and have remained there ever since.
@@SpectacularSportsProddz University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio. They had committed to leaving the Southland for the WAC but reversed their decision about a week before the move was to be official.
It seems like the WAC's issue is that it got away from its Geographical region. Had it stayed focus on its region and just stayed smaller with teams in that area, it would still be around. Probably wouldn't have held onto Colorado, Utah, Arizona teams, etc. They were always destined to rise up but teams like Idaho, Utah State, New Mexico, Wyoming, UNLV, etc. would still be on board.
I say it every time, but I love this series and so glad I found this channel. As a southerner I always heard of the WAC but never really knew who was in it, or how competitive they were from year to year lol
The 16-game conference in 1996 was groundbreaking and should’ve continued for Football. It would’ve made a lot of sense to spinoff 2 separate All-Sport conferences because those are what really increase travel.
Wac had 16 teams in 1998 and tcu smu rice were left out just like swc and utep Hawaii and Fresno state were shocked that they were not invited to the new conference.
I think the biggest problem for the WAC in 1996 was that it was too far ahead of its time. The world wasn't ready for 16-team conferences yet. Now if the WAC did that now, then it'd be a lot different
Fun trivia re BYU cfb's dynastic run: started in 1978, conveniently, the very 1st calendar yr after the 2 Az schools left the WAC. BYU had quality teams, at certain spots, between 1970 & 1977. But in the mid-70s, there was a 3-yr stretch where the 2 Az schools had great success, in fb, vs "The 'Y'". 😂. I lived in the Phoenix-area when all that happened. In Phoenix, LDS sway is so big there were BYU fb games on radio (and extensive print newspaper writeups re BYU fb). So Ik that the LavellEdwards hypey story accelerated exactly right after hcFrankKush & AzSt left the WAC, starting in 1978. Then, voila! BYU fb started averaging 10- or 11+ wins per year 🤣. Not hating: if BYU or Utah face non-Az schools in cfb? I'm rootin' for the Cougs or Utes.
I’d love to see my North Alabama Lions make the jump to FBS, but it will be a LONG time before that happens, if ever. We only become D1 a few years ago and our game against FSU is the biggest thing to happen to our program to this point. Regardless I’d love to see UNA at some point maybe make a New Orleans Bowl or something lol. Roar Lions!
Could you imagine if the WAC had kept its original six and added Washington State and Oregon State, along with the rose bowl tie-in to become the eight team new PAC-8
When talking about the football championships I think you have to mention how the wac was disrespected so it’s teams like Boise st didn’t even get a chance
As a kid, it seemed as legit as any normal year when championships were decided by polls and ratings services. 🤷🏾♂️. Without looking it up, I think BYU was voted #1 by the AP. It couldn’t have been the strongest schedule. But, it was a damn good program at that time, and fun to watch.
BYU got the Holiday Bowl to send an invite to Washington. They said no because they wanted the money from the Orange Bowl. Boston College said no. Four other teams said no all because they valued the payday over the on-field competition. So the title might have been suspect, but that’s not their fault. They tried to schedule a good bowl game to make their case. Nobody else would go along.
What if the original six of the WAC stayed together. The Pac-8 would eventually disband to the ACC and Big Ten, and Washington State and Oregon State get poached by the WAC.
Not: "Arizona State conveniently played [the 1st Fiesta Bowl, in 1971] in their home stadium"(🙄).The other 7 fb members of the 1971 WAC had every opportunity to represent the WAC in that inaugural 1971 Fiesta Bowl. Bet u know the reason the Fiesta Bowl was created? 1960s/1970s Cfb, nationwide, had a patchwork, highly subjective, archaic, restrictive and limited-in-scope, structure of cfb bowl game opportunities, nationwide (eg, dumb rules in the b1g at that time were "Exhibit 'A'"). The result? Deserving teams, nationwide, weren't given bowl invites. Early 70s: AzSt-adjacent donor$ created the Fiesta Bowl, giving the WAC fb champ a guaranteed bowl berth. AzSt had 1960s squads deserving of bowl-invites that were left out. 'Eastern-bias': the desert-based Az schools, by necessity, played mostly night games. Scores of AzSt fb games were little more than a 1-line entry, but not till the Monday morning edition of the NYC- or Chicago-based newspapers! FiestaBowl was created to give Rocky Mountains-region cfb much needed visibility & exposure to eastern-based print news media. If u didn't live in the late 60s/early 70s, u may not fully appreciate how minimal was the coverage of Rocky Mountains fb in eastern U.S. newspapers (readership of a Monday morning sports page was maybe 15%[?] of Sunday paper readership). 'Eastern-bias', part 2: u already know - the HeismanTrophy, at its 1935 inception, was literally created only for players "east of the Mississippi River." 🙄 Point made. Ffs. Paul Harvey: "And now u know the rest of the story." Thank God the Fiesta Bowl was created.
@@IBangedUrMom69420 haha! How TF they more interesting? the SEC is the college league that best tells the story of football in America as a whole. It's where football surpassed baseball as America's sport. Within the SEC is the story of how the Super Bowl Era NFL overtook College football as America's favorite football. It's THE league, modern CFB consolidation times is whack but the SEC deserves its flowers for being the beating heart of football in America
Love your channel Question , since it’s black history month , could you possibly do a video on the historical black conferences like the SWAC and MEAC 👀👀 @lukeontheplains
I've really wanted to for a while, since even among those who support teams in those conferences, there just isn't much knowledge on the history. If I could get a creator on to guest and help me with it, it would be an even better video.
@@lukeontheplains Thanks for the reply. I’ll give some thought to personally taking on a project and contact you about maybe putting something together for your long term calendar.
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Can't get enough WAC? I highly suggest you watch @JKJ's video on the WAC, which is only about half a year old at this point. It's one of the better college sports history videos on the platform!
Do you think the Mountain West can fill the void the PAC 12 left?
Can we have an video about the America East confrence?
Thank you for the mention! This video was amazing man, great job! Can never get enough of the WAC
This is why I always appreciate the MAC, Sunbelt, and Mountain West. They aren't power 5 conferences nor are they feeder conferences that get picked apart, but they stay true to what they are as conferences.
The MAC and Sunbelt don’t get picked apart, but the MWC sure has lil
The Big East is the best version of this as they kicked CFB out and it has done wonders for stability. All conferences that go with CFB will be doomed to chaos outside of a very lucky few.
The mountain west might not have been picked apart a lot. But is founded by picking apart the wac
As a MAC fan, I don't think anyone wants our teams except for Miami and Toledo lol
I've come from the future with bad news
I can't wait for the Big West video! The forgotten D1 conference
Can I just say I love these conference history videos? Nowhere else can you get as insightful historical analysis of a conference with added entertainment. Easily one of my favorite serieses on RUclips
I swear, the WAC is the TNA/IMPACT wrestling equivalent of collegiate conferences. It just refuses to die!!
This is my conference as a Utah Valley student and die hard fan. Thanks for this video! You should do a full video on the current state of the WAC, especially in basketball. My UVU Wolverines had a season for the ages last year. 28 wins (most in Utah) and the final four of the NIT. Unforgettable year!
You guys can take over after my GCU runs the WAC one last time before we move up to the big time.
What I find interesting when watching these conference videos is how history can repeat itself. 4/6 of the founding members of the WAC for instance are going to be Big XII members later this year.
Another great video.
I was at my peak college football spectator the years of the WAC collapse.
At the time, Boise State departure was 'with the WAC's blessing. ' at least that's the press releases said.
Wow, what ride this one was. It's crazy seeing how so many schools diverge and converge. What a good video.
Love seeing Blaster for CSM in the RMAC part of the video. Feels like a throwback to the border conference video. Dont know if you were thinking of my comment Dalukes, but nice detail either way.
I remembered! Such a good logo. Impossible to leave it out.
The WAC's sheer ability to stay alive after everything is just impressive. The Mountain West could have killed it, C-USA could have killed it, but nope, there are gonna be WAC games this year.
Very insightful video about the Western Athletic Conference. To quote what Lukas wisely said, "Memories of LaVell Edwards, Colt Brennan, and the Statue of Liberty echo loudly through the Western United States, even as those days are long gone and the actors involved have all gone their separate ways." But there's a lesson to be learned here: Sometimes bigger isn't always better. And the WAC -- or is it the "WACKY!" -- should serve as a reminder to these burgeoning super-conferences that bigger isn't always better. But will the rest of the college sports world listen? Well...probably not. But hey, you can't give up hope.
I was at Lamar for the 2020 WAC transition and people hated them leaving the Southland Conference just for them to then pay out to leave early and go back.
I wonder how this timeline would be different if Washington State, Oregon, and Oregon State joined the WAC as it seemed early on instead of just staying in the Pac
Love the video! Just something I noticed though: UIW was never a member of the WAC. They joined D1 in the Southland and have remained there ever since.
Whose UIW
@@SpectacularSportsProddz University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio. They had committed to leaving the Southland for the WAC but reversed their decision about a week before the move was to be official.
@@SpectacularSportsProddz University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio.
@@bobantoniuk3953 oh ok thanks
Thanks for mentioning these college and university name changes. You’ve connected the dots in my historical understanding. 😯
I’m glad you finally made a video about the WAC.
Great video man! The story of the conference truly is one of the most interesting out there!
See, everyone thinks conference realignment started in 1991, but it has been happening for as long as there has been football
I miss when Arizona shared a conference with Hardin-Simmons 😢
It seems like the WAC's issue is that it got away from its Geographical region. Had it stayed focus on its region and just stayed smaller with teams in that area, it would still be around. Probably wouldn't have held onto Colorado, Utah, Arizona teams, etc. They were always destined to rise up but teams like Idaho, Utah State, New Mexico, Wyoming, UNLV, etc. would still be on board.
Can we get a Sun Belt rivalries video? loved watching Troy/Marshall as a kid and glad the game looks to be back.
I say it every time, but I love this series and so glad I found this channel. As a southerner I always heard of the WAC but never really knew who was in it, or how competitive they were from year to year lol
absolutely love that you use retro logos for these videos, well done!
The 16-game conference in 1996 was groundbreaking and should’ve continued for Football. It would’ve made a lot of sense to spinoff 2 separate All-Sport conferences because those are what really increase travel.
Thank you so much for making these videos. I really enjoy them.
The wac had TCU, Utah, byu and smu! Those are all power conference teams now. Wow!
Wac had 16 teams in 1998 and tcu smu rice were left out just like swc and utep Hawaii and Fresno state were shocked that they were not invited to the new conference.
Great video once again. Thank you
BIG WEST VIDEO HERE WE COME
Babe wake up, dalukes dropped a new conference history video
Boise state leaving really was the nail in the coffin for the WAC
once you go through all of the conferences you should do an analysis of independent teams and how it’s dwindled to only a few now
What does this video have against the Big East logo? And why does it seem to imply that Louisiana Tech isn't in the Central time zone?
I say this with all sincerity-what on earth are you yapping about?
5:11 if you haven't watched Disney's 'Glory Road', go and do so now. It's a great movie
Now I have to talk to my grandkids about the PAC 12 like my grandpa talked to me about the SWC
I was one of many probably that said history of the wac should be next, right on dalukes!!!
nice to go down memory lane... god i miss the 90's
the NCAA wouldve allowed the WAC to return to FBS, but I read that since they formed the UAC with the ASUN, its no longer possible. rip colt brennan
UPDATE: Grand Canyon & Seattle accepted invites to join the WCC, and UTRGV accepted an invitation to the southland
Stephen F. Austin also accepted an invite to the south land
I think the biggest problem for the WAC in 1996 was that it was too far ahead of its time. The world wasn't ready for 16-team conferences yet. Now if the WAC did that now, then it'd be a lot different
Fun trivia re BYU cfb's dynastic run: started in 1978, conveniently, the very 1st calendar yr after the 2 Az schools left the WAC. BYU had quality teams, at certain spots, between 1970 & 1977. But in the mid-70s, there was a 3-yr stretch where the 2 Az schools had great success, in fb, vs "The 'Y'". 😂. I lived in the Phoenix-area when all that happened. In Phoenix, LDS sway is so big there were BYU fb games on radio (and extensive print newspaper writeups re BYU fb). So Ik that the LavellEdwards hypey story accelerated exactly right after hcFrankKush & AzSt left the WAC, starting in 1978. Then, voila! BYU fb started averaging 10- or 11+ wins per year 🤣. Not hating: if BYU or Utah face non-Az schools in cfb? I'm rootin' for the Cougs or Utes.
Got to love realignment. 2 months and this is already outdated.
Finally some Wyoming mentions 🤠
I’d love to see my North Alabama Lions make the jump to FBS, but it will be a LONG time before that happens, if ever. We only become D1 a few years ago and our game against FSU is the biggest thing to happen to our program to this point. Regardless I’d love to see UNA at some point maybe make a New Orleans Bowl or something lol. Roar Lions!
Could fellow UAC school Tarleton State go FBS in the future? I only care as I go there.
Can you do the southern or northeast conference
Why is the SEC logo in the videos in “LSU colors”?😅
The birth of the MWC....soon to be the new PAC
Could you imagine if the WAC had kept its original six and added Washington State and Oregon State, along with the rose bowl tie-in to become the eight team new PAC-8
The WAC(A Super-Conference that died)
The WAC(A Power-Conference that could've been)
love this series? Is it SEC next?
Woo! North Alabama reference!
Missouri Valley/Ohio Valley/ Summit Conference next?
Boy do I have a surprise for you sometime soon
@@lukeontheplains OH GOODY
Summit league and Missoui Valley football conference for the win
I'm pretty sure this video is a precursor to MW history
favorite part of the videos are the era specific logos
“Some are in the mountain west”
Incarnate Word has been a Southland member not WAC. At least in football since 2014. And Stephen F. Austin and UTRGV are now in the Southland
YOO WE GET SOME SKYLINE CONFRENCE HISTORY
TOM DIENHART MENTIONED (i am a purdue student)
I am once again requesting an SEC history video lol
The Mountain West Conference is really just the WAC under a different name.
GCU MENTIONED. My school 😢
They should sponsor football and become the UCF of the west
do an sec vid
When talking about the football championships I think you have to mention how the wac was disrespected so it’s teams like Boise st didn’t even get a chance
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All the ending did was make me sad and wish for the "glory" days of Southland.
Jaylan Cove
love this, and that 1984 ship is verrrryyy suspect
As a kid, it seemed as legit as any normal year when championships were decided by polls and ratings services. 🤷🏾♂️. Without looking it up, I think BYU was voted #1 by the AP. It couldn’t have been the strongest schedule. But, it was a damn good program at that time, and fun to watch.
BYU got the Holiday Bowl to send an invite to Washington. They said no because they wanted the money from the Orange Bowl. Boston College said no. Four other teams said no all because they valued the payday over the on-field competition. So the title might have been suspect, but that’s not their fault. They tried to schedule a good bowl game to make their case. Nobody else would go along.
The WAC was never never ever ever a power conference or a conference of champions or even close.
Price Trafficway
And now the WAC is dying again
UIW was never a member of the WAC
they were set to join, then backed out.
@@lukeontheplains 14:30-15:55 Your video displays that UIW joined in 2013-2022.
The pathetic former shell of it's former self conference.
What if the original six of the WAC stayed together. The Pac-8 would eventually disband to the ACC and Big Ten, and Washington State and Oregon State get poached by the WAC.
I miss the wacky WAC.
Not: "Arizona State conveniently played [the 1st Fiesta Bowl, in 1971] in their home stadium"(🙄).The other 7 fb members of the 1971 WAC had every opportunity to represent the WAC in that inaugural 1971 Fiesta Bowl. Bet u know the reason the Fiesta Bowl was created? 1960s/1970s Cfb, nationwide, had a patchwork, highly subjective, archaic, restrictive and limited-in-scope, structure of cfb bowl game opportunities, nationwide (eg, dumb rules in the b1g at that time were "Exhibit 'A'"). The result? Deserving teams, nationwide, weren't given bowl invites. Early 70s: AzSt-adjacent donor$ created the Fiesta Bowl, giving the WAC fb champ a guaranteed bowl berth. AzSt had 1960s squads deserving of bowl-invites that were left out. 'Eastern-bias': the desert-based Az schools, by necessity, played mostly night games. Scores of AzSt fb games were little more than a 1-line entry, but not till the Monday morning edition of the NYC- or Chicago-based newspapers! FiestaBowl was created to give Rocky Mountains-region cfb much needed visibility & exposure to eastern-based print news media. If u didn't live in the late 60s/early 70s, u may not fully appreciate how minimal was the coverage of Rocky Mountains fb in eastern U.S. newspapers (readership of a Monday morning sports page was maybe 15%[?] of Sunday paper readership). 'Eastern-bias', part 2: u already know - the HeismanTrophy, at its 1935 inception, was literally created only for players "east of the Mississippi River." 🙄 Point made. Ffs. Paul Harvey: "And now u know the rest of the story." Thank God the Fiesta Bowl was created.
Utah’s future BIG XII foe West Virginia. What the fuck
Dang that's WACky
Is it hard being this cool all the time?
Kentucky to WAC confirmed?!
@@hanyuzhu7276Oregon State and WSU to the WACkyPACky-8?
@@CanyonBerry I don’t care
history of the SEC???
Blaze Groves
you need two take a long break right now
WAC WAC WAC
CALL CALL CALL?
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Small conferences are better.
🙄anything besides an SEC video
Saving the SEC for last. Besides, the other conferences are way more interesting.
@@IBangedUrMom69420 haha! How TF they more interesting? the SEC is the college league that best tells the story of football in America as a whole. It's where football surpassed baseball as America's sport. Within the SEC is the story of how the Super Bowl Era NFL overtook College football as America's favorite football. It's THE league, modern CFB consolidation times is whack but the SEC deserves its flowers for being the beating heart of football in America
My gawd they fell off
Love your channel
Question , since it’s black history month , could you possibly do a video on the historical black conferences like the SWAC and MEAC 👀👀 @lukeontheplains
I'd definitely be interested in that. I'll have to see if I can do one before the end of the month. I know I'm running out of time though!
@@lukeontheplainsLeap year. 🤦🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️ 😆 I would appreciate it in March, or any other month. 👍🏽
I've really wanted to for a while, since even among those who support teams in those conferences, there just isn't much knowledge on the history. If I could get a creator on to guest and help me with it, it would be an even better video.
@@lukeontheplains Thanks for the reply. I’ll give some thought to personally taking on a project and contact you about maybe putting something together for your long term calendar.
sounds good!
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